Summer of getting shit done editionAll video related questions and discussion is intended for this thread. Here we discuss techniques, gear and anything else related to capturing video footage. Please don't pretend to be an expert if you don't know what you're talking about. Kindly leave your ego at the door.Posting short films/scripts or other work you've done is encouraged.We tend to use and recommend DSLRs/mirrorless cameras because they provide phenomenal picture quality for their price, have large sensors (ie the same size used in high-end cinema cameras and higher) and have interchangeable lenses.In contrast, consumer camcorders often have much smaller sensors and a fixed lens.>STICKY - https://text.is/QZ1J>Helpful guide, additional books and more in-depth FAQs - https://web.archive.org/web/20200926115310/https://pastebin.com/kG0gRmTZ>NO ONE CARES WHAT AN EXPERT YOU THINK YOU ARE. IF YOU’RE ASKING BASIC-AS-SHIT QUESTIONS, YOU CAN’T BE ALL THAT GREAT. SEE ABOVEPrevious thread >>4433528Quick FAQS>what’s the best camera available on a “budget”?The blackmagic pocket cinema camera 4k, or the Panasonic gh5 (can pick one up for like 500 bucks atm)>what’s a good beginner video camera?Anything that works, shoots at least 1080p and preferably has interchangeable lenses. Any recommendation beyond that will cause arguments so read the fucking sticky if that isn't satisfactory.>What's a good sound solution that won't break the bank?Zoom h1>Can I use a zoom lens for video?Yes>Do I need cine lenses?No>Do I need 4k?No. 1080 looks great on a cinema screen. 4k looks better.>Can someone tell me if my video is any good?Yes, but be prepared to receive harsh criticism. If you're going to waste 5 minutes of our time with a shitty out-of-focus montage of nothing then we'll tell you that it's crap>Is it okay to dox myself?...Personally I wouldn't but what do I know?
>>4450377>>4450743so, aps-H can be better than ff and crop MF? woah, you arent poor, are you ?
>>4450802Technically speaking, macro four thirds is the APS-H of 645.
>>4450377What's some budget-friendly alternative to a Bucciali for the villain's car in a low budget short set in the 30s?
>>4450811Some neoclassic slop or changing the script
>>4450802aps-h is literally smaller than full frameit has like a 1.3x cropthere's nothing wrong with aps-c in the first place, but like if you want "large format" (to quote arri, lmao), aps-h isn't it
>>4450813grim
>>4450846That's the film business. Hollywood is a business not a dream.
>>4450811One made out of foam, and shot in the dark.Ooh, it’s “noir”!Dumb shit for dumb audiences works fine. Movie watchers are fucking morons.
I have some 54.45 fps footage my buddy shot on his iphone to put into a majority 23.976 fps premiere timeline. would it be best to interpret the iphone footage or vice versa and live with the jankiness? what would happen if i output the iphone footage to a CRT, pointed the camera at the screen and recorded at 23.976 for muh aesthetic?
>>4451113Is it some film of major historical significance to the world? I fucking doubt it. So it doesn’t matter, just slap it together however you want and spit it up on screen for an audience that’ll completely forget it 5min later anyway. None of this is worth the effort you goons are putting into the gear & processes. All that matter is what you shoot, not how you fucking shoot it, jfc.
>>4451114>Is it some film of major historical significance to the world? I fucking doubt it. So it doesn’t matterit matters to me anon. your cynicism is gay.
>>4451008It's both but I'm not pursuing the american cinema dream. >>4451107You jest but I was thinking of offering that route or even CGI. We all know how Kane was made.
>>445112598% of films don't matter to people anon.
>>4451114Trvth Nvke
>>4433741Still working on it. Jfc. I filmed the demolition shots recently and from here on the only one I can blame for this thing not being finished is myself.Should've started with a minute or two, not 5-10, which seems to be turning out to be 15 in the end anyway. I'll wait a week or two after the rough cut is done and see how much fat I can trim, 20 or 30% should be realistic. Also lots of regrets, technical mistakes when filming, I approached the filming part without a 'real' plan, or stopping for a moment and thinking things through instead of running and gunning like an idiot. While editing I'm constantly thinking things like "You idiot, why did you do that", "Why didn't you pan for a second longer" "Wtf is this shit" "Great composition, dumbass" "Underexposed to shit, well done, green bayer lines across the frame", "Why didn't you film that, IT WAS RIGHT THERE" etc. Like blatant stuff, shit I recognize in editing in an instant, but somehow blissfully fucked up when shooting on location. I was under time constraints, but everyone is I guess. I feel like I should pick up smoking so that I'd have regular 5-10 minute breaks just reflecting on what the hell I'm doing at the moment and where should things progress. At least there's plenty of material shot so I have what I have and I will work with what I have. All in all a good learning experience. Wish I'd started with /vid/ earlier so that I would've had some prior experience before taking up this particular project, but whatever, next one will be better (and shorter).Until the next blogpost.
>>4451454>I approached the filming part without a 'real' plan, or stopping for a moment and thinking things through instead of running and gunning like an idiot.Anon I emplore you to storyboard things in the future
>>4450377What do you’ll anons think of using generative ai like sora or something like it to generate professional looking cinematic b roll for projects? Would normies notice it was an ai video or would they legit think I’m the next Nolan?
>>4451487this is industry standard in my country saarand because of it bollywood will take over world soon, hollywood is of finish
>>4451475In the future - absolutely, whenever possible. It was an option with the exterior shots (and I didn't do it), but not with the interior shots. I got around to shooting in the last couple of days while the building was still operational as organizing access took time and the camera took over a month to arrive (wtf). >>4433915 Had a night under artificial light and a day under natural light. One day I'm driving past the building and see the guys being suspiciously busy, I get out, "what's going on, oh, you're shutting down today?" "Yup, you got a few hours until we shut down, and a few hours after, so shoot as much as you like". There's no storyboarding it. And it's not like I'm familiar with the layout and know what the guys are doing, when, where they'll be going, what they're operating and how, etc. They're not actors, I'm basically a fly on the wall with a camera, and there will be no double-takes (boss man himself did a few ones for me luckily). But what I could've done is make a storyboard from the few interior photos and shots I got earlier, and spend a day (which I didn't have) sketching it out based on them, however rudimentary, and then shoot the last day following that. What I had going in was a basic written idea of how the film should flow and the few shots I knew in advance I wanted to have - overview while it's operational, and after it's shut down, and demolition, machines working, guys operating & cleaning them, all the retro gear and appliances in the breakroom like the CRT TV in the corner and the 80s sony boombox, an old man with dirty hands like baseball mitts smoking in the breakroom during the last night and a closeup of him flicking the ash in the ashtray while TV plays in the background, on the last day guys packing their things and cleaning out the breakroom, final shutting down of the machines, demolition of the tall chimney, stuff like that.
>>4451487it will look like you're brown and poor
>>4451596Bold of you to assume I'm not brown and poor.
>>4451512Do normies notice Bollywood is using ai to make vidyas?
>>4451759i don't think it's so much about them noticing or not, but it seems like brownoids just don't care about such distinctions. i wonder what the reason is.
Reccomend me some studio lightsBudget 1000$
>>4451916for a studio?3 buff ab1600s for general use?3 godox ad200s
>>4451918What bout 300w?
>>4451933300w alien bees are ok if you can get them super cheap, they can be limiting if you move outdoors or start shooting with high speed leaf shutter cameras like old mamiya/hasselblads300w godox is pointless over the 200w
>>4451916I recommend you learn about lighting before you buy lights idiot. This is an inane and retarded question.You should be asking>what am I mainly going to be using the studio for>what are the main subjects of my photographs>how far away do I need the lights to be>what camera am I using>what shutter speed will I mostly be using>what's the max ISO I'm willing to shoot at>how wide am I shooting my lens>what's my sensor sizeIf you figure all of that out you can easily figure out how much light you need, using the formula for luminance dropoff. Obviously you also need to consider whether CRI is important or you're just going to fake the colors in post.
>>4451916>>4451918>>4451933>>4451977This is the video general. What the fuck are you using strobes for in video?
>>4451986For props
What fps should I use if I want to get some slo-mo footage for a 24fps timeline? Will 60fps be choppy?
>>4452199100 or 150 would be 4x or 6x and very doable. If you just want half speed record at 50 fps.
>>4452200There's no way to use 60fps? Damn. For some reason my camera doesn't allow 50fps, only 24, 30, 60 and much higher rates.
I need strong light for outside action shooting, subjects: everyone
>>4452201I've just realised you asked what FPS to record at. I just glossed over that and assumed you meant shutter speed. Frame rate is frame rate regardless. Your shutter speed is what matters.
>>4452206But won't 30 or 60fps footage get choppy on a 24fps timeline? Regardless of shutter angle.
>>4452208Frame rate is what the video is displayed as. Let's just say you shot at 1/60th intending 30fps playback. The footage is taking a frame every 60th of a second. This would hold true if you set the camera to record at 25, 23.97, 60, 100, or even 1000 fps. However, if you played 1/60th back at 60fps it would look smeary because every frame has "full" motion blur. Played back at 30, 25, or 23.97 would look very similar to within a few percent difference, i.e. not exactly noticable. If you shot at 1/100th, but then converted it to 50 fps it would look "normal", converted to 25 fps it would be choppy, converted to 100 fps it would look smeary. It's the shutter speed (or angle) that dictates the motion blur.
>>4452201When your camera is set up for NTSC region it provides you with 24-30-48-60-120fps. Set it up for PAL region and you get 25-50-100fps. It becomes important when artificial lights start to flicker in your footage due to either 50hz or 60hz electricity grid frequency depending on your region.
>>4452208depends if you have or dont have motion blur
>>4452201
>>4453291>Selling a camera on ebay that has a minor fault
>rejected from latest film festivalIt happens. I was on a winning streak that couldn't last (sort of). It sucks because this is the first festival that (presumably, unless they judged it months ago) judged my film based on the newest edit that cleaned up the audio a lot.I can't believe I had more success with the bad mix but maybe it was actually the case that no one could hear but me.I've only got one other I'm waiting on and that doesn't come until the end of November. I timed these way too far apart. Hopefully I get that just as a nice way to close out my festival run and get one more live screening./blogpost
>>4453652Yeh, if they make out the doggy moans as doggy moans it makes sense they reject it cinefag.
>>4453652make a short film 10-15 minutes that shows the story of Yakub being sent out from mecca and creating the brown, yellow, red races, and gorillas. You'll win if you do.
>>4453657>you should be like me and spam zoophilia implications everywhere and blackmail people into making it the only thing they ever see! That's being productive, and I'm productive in doing that!JUMP OFF A FUCKING CLIFF
>>4453667You dont spam zoophilia implications. Your posts saying that most people should commit bestiality and saying it isn’t rape were very blatant. That is the opposite of an implication. Go be a dogfucker somewhere else.
>>4453676>if you don't think minority females letting dogs fuck them constitutes rape you must fuck dogs yourself!
>>4453682Animals can’t consent, dogfucker.
>>4453682so you say the dogs fuck you. hmmm. you’re still a dogfucker lol go book a suicide booth or summit
>>4453685I'm not a brown hole, kys>>4453683So? They're the fuckers not the fucked. Go get broken by Rocky, buck
>>4453688dogfucker cope
>>4453689Broken buck cope
Can you see the difference between MOV and MP4 if everything else is the same
>>4453691So now you fuck deer too? It gets worse and worse
>>4453695>deerDEFLECTING NIGGER YOU'RE THE BUCK
>>4453699Oh so you’re more of a cervine voyeurcervoyeur. Fascinating. You dogfuckers are a riot.
>>4453693No. Those two are just holders/containers/wrappers for the encoded video/audio streams, it's the streams inside of those containers that actually determine what you're viewing and at what quality.You can use mediainfo application to explore media file 'innards' and see what codecs are actually used for the video and audio streams.It has to be mentioned that some cameras may use distinctly different qualities or codecs when selecting either format, you have to check with the manual of your equipment to better determine the differences.
>>4453652Look at this nigga going to film festivals and shit. Meanwhile I'm out here trying to not make my shit feel like a home video
>>4453848Why do you feel your stuff looks like a home video?Honestly just shooting in 24p, with proper exposure and with a 2.35 aspect ratio should eliminate that.
>>4453848Getting into a festival isn’t hard, and at this point it means absolutely fucking nothingI’m surprised 95% of them still even exist, dumbass hack “filmmakers” haven’t caught on enough yet I guess
>>4454054The only reason to go to a festival is to get drunk or get high or take way too much psychedelics!
what kind of people visit these festivals, guess you meet lots of people outside of the mainstream there, it's probably fun
>>4453652maybe by fixing it you also sanitized something that made it cool
>>4454054with the smaller festivals it's the only way some films will get shown in the region, movie theaters are dying
>>4453658TITLE: THE CREATIONFADE IN:EXT. MECCA - DAYThe city awakens. People bustle, unaware of the man observing from the shadows—YAKUB (40s, intense).NARRATOR (V.O.)Long ago, Yakub envisioned shaping the world—creating a new race.INT. YAKUB’S LAB - NIGHTDimly lit, filled with strange devices. Yakub scribbles furiously.YAKUB(whispering)They don’t see the truth. But I will.He holds a glowing vial, eyes burning.EXT. MECCA - DAYYakub addresses followers.YAKUBWe’re destined for greatness. To create a stronger race—pure.The crowd murmurs, cautious.INT. YAKUB’S LAB - NIGHTHe experiments, creating grotesque creatures—diverse but unsettling.NARRATOR (V.O.)With each creation, Yakub’s vision darkened.EXT. ISLAND OF PATMOS - DAYYakub stands with his creations—obedient, diverse.YAKUBYou are my legacy. Inherit the earth.The creatures nod, uncertain.MONTAGE:Yakub teaching.Creatures questioning.Tensions grow.INT. YAKUB’S LAB - NIGHTYakub, exhausted.YAKUB(pleading)I did this for you! To give strength!A BROWN CREATURE steps forward.BROWN CREATUREBut at what cost? We’re not experiments.EXT. ISLAND OF PATMOS - NIGHTThe creatures whisper.YELLOW CREATUREWe must find our own way.INT. YAKUB’S LAB - NIGHTDesperate, Yakub scribbles.YAKUBI am the creator! I won’t be abandoned!EXT. ISLAND OF PATMOS - DAWNThe creatures confront Yakub—united.RED CREATUREWe forge our own path.Yakub falls to his knees.YAKUB(voice breaking)What have I done?NARRATOR (V.O.)Power corrupts. creation becomes conflict. True power lies within the hearts of the created.FADE OUT.TEXT ON SCREEN:Who are we, if not the sum of our choices?END.
>>4453658FADE IN:INT. HIGH COUNCIL CHAMBER – MECCA – DAYA dark chamber of stone and incense. Hooded ELDERS stand in judgment.YAKUB (40s, intense eyes, brilliant and defiant) stands alone, hands shackled, robes tattered.GRAND ELDERYour works defy the natural order, Yakub.You dissect the sacred code of Allah!YAKUB(bluntly)I do not defy. I refine.You fear progress because it does not wear your face.GRAND ELDERYou are banished. To the Isle of Patmos.There, you may play god alone.Yakub’s eyes burn with suppressed fury.YAKUBI leave as a heretic.I shall return as a creator.EXT. OCEAN – NIGHTA storm rages. Lightning cracks. Yakub stands alone on a crude raft, wind thrashing his cloak.YAKUB (V.O.)They feared me… but they will come to fear what I unleash far more.INT. PATMOS – LABORATORY – NIGHTA gothic lab built into stone. Archaic tech hums with eerie life: bubbling tubes, coiled wires, crackling plasma.YAKUB works feverishly. On a slab lies a pale humanoid form.ASSISTANT #1, nervous, watches from the shadows.ASSISTANT #1Master… this one... it lacks melanin.YAKUB(excitedly)Yes! The pigment has receded.Logic—detached from emotion. Aggression without rhythm.It is... precise.He throws a lever. The body jolts.YAKUB (CONT'D)I shall call it...White.ASSISTANT #1(blinking)It looks... unfinished.YAKUB(smiling)Exactly.
>>4454329(Cont)MONTAGE – “THE CREATIONS”— Yakub breeds subjects in tubes: RED, YELLOW, BROWN skin tones.— Charts flash: “Melanin Suppression Ratio,” “Temperament Traits.”— A gorilla slams its cage. A yellow-skinned clone stares coldly.— Yakub scribbles manically: “Behavioral Stratification by Hue.”INT. PATMOS – LAB – LATERThe lab is now teeming with clones — emotionless, sharp-featured.One stares at Yakub… then smirks.ASSISTANT #2Master Yakub... the white ones are becoming... disobedient.YAKUBThey adapt. That was the point.Let the old world crumble.Let them rule the ashes.INT. PATMOS – LAB – NIGHT – CHAOSAlarms blare. The lab burns.The clones fight each other.A gorilla breaks free, roaring and smashing a console.Yakub stands amid the flames, defiant.YAKUBI gave them order!I gave them the code!I AM THE NEW ADAM!VOICEOVER – GRAND ELDER (ECHOING)You fractured man… to perfect it.And in doing so, shattered the world.EXT. PATMOS – DAWNAshes fall like snow.Yakub kneels alone, his lab a ruin behind him.He smiles faintly.YAKUB (V.O.)Let them call me monster.They will still speak my name.BLACK SCREENTEXT ON SCREEN:“Based on a true myth.”CREDITS ROLLOver gothic organ music.Optional post-credit:A lone white clone staring into camera, whispering...CLONE (whispering)...decentralize...
>>4454058I suppose it's possible?I dunno. I thought it was fine. Then I watched it in the theatre and wanted to kill myself because I was cringing so hard at the sound. I literally couldn't focus on anything else. I will never let anyone see that cut again if I can help it.
>>4454058With shitty audio it probably reminded the festival organizers of Nolan’s work. :-p
>love taking pictures of cars mostly but some other things>love importing them to lightroom and then making car posters/collages or just general edits of peoples cars to post on instagram don't mind how much time it can take sometimes>really want to get into video, film a bunch of stuff but always ends up I see just how many video files I have and no real idea how to combine them into something and usually don't do anything with them>went to a big drift/car meet at a race track near my house paid 45 dollars for a ticket to get in spent like 4-5 hours taking 95% videos>get home and just edit the pictures and make posts of them people really like them get decent amount of likes for my shitty instagram page like 150-300 literally nothing but regardless>almost a week later and STILL have not made a single videoIt is just so much easier taking pictures and making things with them, meanwhile I have no idea where to start with making any video of this event. It's all just clips of cars drifting, spinning out etc and I have no idea how to start it or pace it or begin it I don't know. The only thing I can think of is just making some shitty clipped together montage but like, seems so uninspired but what else can I even do. Plus I completely fucked up the exposure in like 60% of the clips as it was my first time shooting in clog but we won't talk about that.
>>4455156It doesn't sound like you have much of a vision or even desire to make videos and are only considering it because you feel like it'd be cool to make videos.You don't have to make videos. If you've got something you want to make you should absolutely do it, but no one is crying out for another car montage.
>>4455176I don't have much vision, but I do have a desire to make videos I just don't know where to start like...what is the first few seconds of the video...the pace...how to use transitions or just let the clips play after another with no transition basically the everything. Should it be some 10-20 second brainrot social media clip or should I try to make something that's a couple minutes to put on youtube. I just have all these clips, I look at them all and it's kinda exhausting even just organizing them all from what were usable and what sucked took awhile. I think I'm just going to try to create a few short clips to keep it simple and not get overwhelmed and obviously try to slowly get better at Adobe Premiere and things like that, it sucks some of the footage is totally overexposed I had an ND but it was super sunny out and I was just going off of what my EVF was looking like in my R8 and it was just flatout wrong for whatever reason.I'd really like to get into making videos, the few I have made I enjoyed how they came out.
>>4455179Why do you want to make videos? I genuinely don't understand. If you don't have something in mind you want to make then why do you want to make videos? For the sake of it?
>>4455179>what is the first few seconds of the videoFade in>paceWhen you’re getting bored, cut>how to use transitions or just let the clips play after another with no transitionTry a variety>Should it be some 10-20 second brainrot social media clip or should I try to make something that's a couple minutes to put on youtubeMake both >it's kinda exhausting even just organizing them all No shit >try to slowly get better at Adobe PremiereSounds good, try Davinci too >some of the footage is totally overexposedUse it all as learning experience, test footage, practice >I'd really like to get into making videos, the few I have made I enjoyed how they came outThen what’s the fucking problem? Just DO IT
Oh god- are DCTLs the new “BUY MY LUT PACK!!!!!” that everyone and their brother will be shilling?
>>4455529Yes. JewTubers always got to sell some garbage or shill somebody’s garbage for them.
>Is it okay to dox myself?>...Personally I wouldn't but what do I know?I don't get any engagement on insta. I don't get views on YouTube. Maybe I'll post my shit here and get some (You)s and critique at least.
Almost never post on this general but wanted to drop by to say that im shooting a doc and we are using a fx6. Pretty nice cam for how small she is and the built in nd filters are heaven sent (ofc picrel isn’t the final grade since we are still shooting)
>>4455647Dehancer?
>>4455655Yes, but im not really a fan. Just shoot actual film if you want grain. My DOP loves it tho
>>4455226I like watching well made videos, not just of cars but in general....I do not like how popular the kind of speed ramp boom bam shit is with cars where every video is just gimbal shots that are speed ramped and edited like crazy with all kinds of effects and trends. I much prefer more natural, atmospheric hand held footage that's kind of taking in the general atmosphere. I would like to make stuff like that and put my own kind of creativity into it. >>4455250I guess I am just over thinking it, but I also have a problem of I will hold whatever I make to too high of a standard and say it's shit if I see someone else post something that completely mogs my video. Plus just a 30 year old boomer that doesn't like to learn new things like Adobe or Davinci, I hear Davinci is quite good for colour grading but the free version you can't import videos shot in clog3 in whatever codec the R8 uses I think h265 so I would maybe have to pirate it or something which is gay but I also don't want to pay 300 dollars where at least Adobe let's you waste your money on monthly subs.I made a video and put it on instagram, not that proud of it but it was okay would get BTFO posting here probably. I have enough to make like two more short clips I think that I will just make so it wasn't a total waste driving over an hour to go up there.
>>4455658It looks good, I love Dehancer >Just shoot actual film if you want grainYou know as well as I do that it’s not that easy, especially compared with the camera you’re complimenting using right now
>>4455682>I will hold whatever I make to too high of a standard and say it's shit if I see someone else post something that completely mogs my videoThese are both good things to have in mind though, instead of delusional dreamland>Adobe- spending money every single month forever>Davinci- buy once cry once, then you own it foreverSuit yourself. But I say fuck Adobe.>I made a video and put it on instagram, not that proud of it but it was okay would get BTFO posting here probablyGood for you. Who gives a fuck what people here think? Keep going.
>>4455682>I would like to make stuff like that and put my own kind of creativity into it.Then do it? You said before that you had no idea what to make but it sounds like deep down you know exactly what you want to make.Video editing is ultimately all just trial and error. Put your footage into a timeline and see if you like it. When you don't, start cutting stuff and moving the clips around (and grading the footage of course)
>>4455706I know, was being sassy
>>4455707>Davinci- buy once cry once, then you own it foreverreally it's buy a bm camera, then you own it forever
>>4450377Im from malaysiaAnd i want to get blackmagic cameraWhich one is better6k pro or 6k g2 for beginner like meThe one that sells here is body only
I want to record my gf and I fucking, what's the best small camera with good low-light performance? Something like a point-and-shoot camera, easy to operate with one hand.
>>4456000dont invest in a fancy cameraINVEST IN THE LIGHTING SETUP for god's sake
>>4456012I don't want to set up lights every time I fuck her, I just want something I can grab quickly on the spot and record with, that's the whole point of a camera that can record well in low light conditions. Not looking to produce porn, just for my personal enjoyment.
>>4456015I’m planning on filming a porn with my gf, using a BMCC6K and will be setting up multiple lights, have a story planned, etc. yeah it’s not a “on-the-spot” thing, but the results should be pretty incredible
>>4456028I just hope you're both in shape because the world doesn't need yet another mediocre porn video of two skinnyfat people painful humping each other in 6k.
>>4456029lol, we’ve both been trying to actually lose 20 pounds for it, bought a costume for her. But it’s private use only, won’t be uploading this. If we didn’t have identifiable tattoos I’d be tempted to upload but it’s not gonna happen
Why the fuck can't Premiere play my timeline without lagging, pinning my CPU at 100% and being a piece of shit? I have a 5900x and a 3060 yet playing a fucking timeline that isn't even FUCKING MINUTE LONG is lagging and pinning my CPU at 100% usage. It's basic ass clog3 footage from an R8 how the fuck is it this hard to play back, I have my preview set to 1/4 come on.
>>44560351. Fuck adobe2. What are proxy
>>4456035adobe gonna adobealso amd has issues
Why do some peoples Instagram reels look crystal clear while my footage looks like dogshit? I look up all kinds of tutorials and nothing really helps, uploading it in 4k with high bitrate to give the highest quality for instagram to rape or exporting in the "perfect" or recommended export settings for instagram. I hear that more popular/verified accounts get better quality uploads with higher bit rate and stuff or is this cope?
>>4456623revenue generators get bandwidth, you don't. most systems work like that
Anyone got some advice on re-encoding 10bit footage from x264 to x265/HEVC? I want to get some b-roll and less important footage down in size but retain a fairly high amount of detail. Handbrake so far seems like the easiest too for it, so would something like>Encoder: H.265 10-bit (x265)>Quality: CQ 20 RF>Encoder Preset: Slower>Encoder Profile: Auto
>“Arri has faced a build-up of inventory as a result of depressed sales, leading to pressure on liquidity, according to its parent’s 2023 report,” writes Bloomberg. “At the time, Arri had raised cash by selling non-core assets. In May this year, it signed an agreement to sell lighting fixtures subsidiary Claypaky to EK Inc.”Rumour mill is that arri are looking to sell their company.For the record I predicted this years ago, before nikon bought red, when red initially launched the komodo. Hybrids/MLCs are too high quality for a fraction of the price. And now blackmagic has 2 cameras on par with an alexa lf's dynamic range, at several times higher resolution, for a fraction of the price.You can't even buy an alexa 65. Its allure was its exclusivity as basically the only high quality medium format digital camera on the market. Now the ursa 17k has a sensor the same size with unbelievable resolution and the same dr, for less than the cost of arri's cheaper cameras.>inb4 resolution isn't everythingNo. But it is valuable to some and having more is only a good thing as long as you can still record in lower resolutions without huge sacrifices. Arri themselves bragged about the resolution of their large format cameras. And with the vegas sphere being a thing, just looking good on imax isn't enough.The writing was on the wall when they licensed arrilog in panasonic cameras. It was supposed to be a meaningless gesture to raise money for arri without having to "lower" themselves to the point of trying to compete with hybrids. It did the reverse though and now everyone with an s1ii thinks they have a pocket arri and there's no need to buy/rent an actual arri.This is what happens when a company refuses to innovate for over a decade.
As someone who is very new to doing video and inexperienced, on a scale of 1-10 how retarded would it be to buy one of those cheap Sirui anamorphic lenses for my R8? Will my footage suddenly become based as fuck and cinematic or still awful just wider? I think I already know the answer.
>>4457339>he thinks it's the gear that makes video interestinganon, you could spend a million dollars and still...
>>4457339They're like $350 anon. They can be nice if you're going for a certain look, but in a 8-point list your gear is like third last in priority.Composition, lighting, pacing, and audio all dictate how based your video is well before buying some 1.33x wide lens that nobody is going to fucking care about anyway.If you just want the lens to have the lens, buy the lens. You're an adult.
I want to vlog on YouTube and I started recording footage using my cell phone but the audio was pretty shit so I got an external lav mic that I can plug into the phone ($30). Then I wasn't happy with with way everything looked so I went down a lighting rabbit hole and picked up a couple cheap neewer lights on Amazon ($180 for 2 LED panels) and that helped a bunch, still trying to settle on the look I want but it's miles better. Next problem is that I am mostly filming electronics engineering work (building circuits using small components like resistors, capacitors, etc) and I'm really struggling with autofocus focus hunting even when I tap and hold to "lock" focus on a part of the frame. So now I'm looking at cameras and I still haven't put out a video. I don't want to fall into the trap of trying to solve every problem with gear and end up never using any of it but I feel trapped with this camera issue. I feel the mic was a 10/10 purchase because everyone says audio is king and I could have gotten by with much cheaper lights but I'm not seeing a fix for filming with my cell phone other than buying a camera. Filming with my cell phone other than buying a camera. What do you think? Is this GAS and I'm NGMI or is "use what you have" not enough in this case
>>4457397Try finding or buying an app that allows you to turn off autofocus and/or set it manually. If you can't find that, then, yes, a camera is the only route.
>>4457398To be more exact, the app can be any recording app, just test it to see if the autofocus can be turned off.
>>4457398I think filmic pro will let you turn off autofocus but sadly it’s now a subscription. You used to be able to buy it.
>>4457315>arri sucksHow is this news?
>>4457398>>4457408Filmic pro crashes if I change the orientation to landscape or if I try to change it to manual mode. Spent 2 hours troubleshooting and made no progress. I canceled the free trial so I don't get dinged in a week. I searched ”manual focus camera” on the Play store and the first two I tried had crazy high subscription fees, like one wanted $19 per week after the 3-day free trial expired. I found one that hasn't been updated in a while that lets me change the focus but half the time when I finish recording I'm left with a 0-second video file and it doesn't seem to like the lav mic.That I got manual focus working at all is a plus so I'll keep hunting around for an app that actually works on my phone. I wish it would tell you which one requires a subscription before installing it
>>4457408devs that care about the user will either let you buy perpetual or quietly keep feeding you updates, everyone else thinks you're an ape and you shouldn't support them
>>4457315Add to the fact that Aputure has made LEDs that rival their m18s. I remember when Potato jet was in their HQs and asked them about making a budget camera and the guy said they toyed with it but couldn't manage a system, due to power limitations. I wonder if in a last ditch effort, they'll try something?Or does Canon have enough to buy them out?
Alexa meme build update?I got a V lock shark fin, double the battery life, don't have to turn it offI did a couple of photo walks (with my other camera) so I am feeling "inspired" to get out and shoot again,In the photo I was trying to get that top down look from the RZ, it actually worked better than expected, but its sketchy as. It sitting at about 12kg, but she held on. Even made it on shitty rigs, so that's cool. The mic setup needs work, the rode doesn't play nice with the deity, there is some sort of interference over the wire. I don't remember if I said in the last update, but the XT only does prores, the RAW pcb/ module is fucked, not worth fixing. Also got the monitor/recorder (7Q) to record RAW with the classic, but haven't tried it yet.
>>4458106Get us some wallaby webms.
>>4458106Hell yeah cunt. I'll be on the lookout for a fat bogan at Eastern Creek hauling this shit around one-handed while sinking VBs with the other. Realistically, what do you feel like shooting with the setup?
>>4458161If i do ill post them, but its probably not going to happen. >>4458164I'm down south in Melbourne, maybe ill take it to a drift event one day and get some cool shots in 120fps. A zoom lens would be kino for that sort of event. Not really sure what I'm gonna do with it, for me its just a hobby, don't really have the skillset to "go pro." Dealing with clients and giving them a shitty outcome is also going to be hell for me. It would be cool though. I reckon if I did any client work, it would just be photos on film, unironically just to cover expenses.
what is it called when you cut subject out of a shot and change the background to a diff shot but the subject is still moving. i figured out how to do a single frame of it by bsplining in Resolve.this is kinda what i want to learnhttps://youtu.be/L3PxqLPHdJo?t=47
>>4458333It probably speaks to my experience in video (none), but I can't imagine what would be the kind of thing to film with such a large rig; you generally only see this kind of shit with production crews. I want to say go film some cultural events or music festivals, but the logistics sounds like ass to deal with.Buy a PRESS vest off of amazon and see how many things you can sneak into.
>>4458478Using an Arri gives you bragging rights. More so then using a Red since most Oscar winning films were shot on an Arri.
>>4458333webm looks really nice.
>>4458467>rap videopeople just pirate after effects plugins
>>4458478I shot sneaky sound system on my classic, they had a free concert near me. Extremely lucky with the parking, it is a lot to carry around, these cameras usually have a crew of 10+ following them around. I think I have posted some clips of it here before, I will probably upload to YouTube one day. The hardest thing about this camera is the weight (12kg or so), power draw, 40-50min for 99Wh V lock, and the data rate. I do have some 512gb codex cards, but I can't get the reader working yet. Niche legacy hardware is a bitch. I applied for a media pass for a car show, and they wanted me to pay anyway, what a joke hahah. I didn't go. I don't think I will be able to sneak into anything, don't have my mattebox setup yet, doesn't matter what you have, you're only "legit" if you go full mattebox. >>4458483There was a guy on one of the photo walk with a FX6, we spoke for a bit, he had a nice setup and offered me to have a go at it. I declined and said I have one similar, then showed him the two Alexa's stacked on each other and I said " its just a hobby", (he actually used the camera for work) The flex was real. The FX6 is unironically a better camera, but the arri tonez go so hard, and fuck Sony. >>4458512Thanks fren, literally only a CST in resolve to r.709, Arri tonez for you.
>>4458714>I said " its just a hobby", (he actually used the camera for work) The flex was realIt's like owning a race car to go to work in. The paid driver doesn't have to deal with any of the logistic shit but can only use it for work. You roll up and say "yeah, I do this because it's fuckin cool" then peel out in your V8 Supercar to go to ColesFuck it. Live your life and do cool shit.
>yoloing into videography and passing on every other opportunity to try and make it as a filmmaker until you're in your mid 30s with very little to showI really need to start earning some proper money doing this
>>4458729>Fuck it. Live your life and do cool shit.Money comes and goes, tonez are forever.
>>4458984Film stuff for onlyfans sluts. That pays well and you get to see the goods every man wants to see
>>4459045I absolutely would but I don't know any (or any who would admit to being on there at least). I can't exactly just go to the local pub or nearest uni and ask every woman I see if she's on onlyfans and if she needs a videographer.
>>4459048>local pub or nearest uni and ask every woman I see if she's on onlyfans and if she needs a videographerDo it, and film that as well- new YouTube channel gimmick. I bet you not only find some that already do have accounts, but I bet you convince some to start new accounts and go for it
>>4459048> I can't exactly just go to the local pub or nearest uni and ask every woman I see if she's on onlyfans and if she needs a videographer.The odds are higher than you think
>>4459048Aren't most just using their boyfriends for this type of "work"? Majority don't earn that much. Anon would have to work for free first to at least get some experience.
>>4459049>>4459050Pretty sure that's how you get arrested/fined and banned from places.>>4459064Pretty sure most do at first. Or a close friend who has a nice camera. They only move onto serious videographers when they're earning serious money. And the people they hire and normally hired through their managers and have experience with that sort of content.I don't think there are many girls just looking to hire to kickstart their onlyfans. And any who are aren't going to be paying much.(It's a shame because I'm pretty confident I could catapult basically any decently attractive girl to the top of the industry but alas)
https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2025/2/17/brady-corbet-claims-hes-brokeI'm sure it's all relative. Like Brady's concept of barely being able to afford rent is rent on a Beverly Hills oceanside apartment, combined with several flights and accommodation across the world for the sake of publicity and business negotiations. Additionally, he only gets a payday when he sells a film which then has to last him for the next few years (though his wife does the same) until he makes another.But still, it's encouraging to know that even if I "make it" I'll still be broke
>>4459082He’s probably broke because he blew all of this money on blow and hookere. I know if I made it big in film all of my profits would go to sex and drugs (mostly drugs) because I love getting as high af.
>>4459074>I'm pretty confident I could catapult basically any decently attractive girl to the top of the industryHow
>>4458467I'm not aware of a specific name for it.The way to do it is mask the subject in the clip in the fusion tab, either frame by frame or just in a few key frames and let resolve's automation fill in the gaps, then remove the background, and then play the clip on top of another.
>>4459183I'm not going to give away my secrets that I think are worth millions (maybe I'm delusional). I'll just say that I think there are a lot of clear areas where there's significant proven interest from audiences (not talking about extreme/hardcore content) that camgirls are barely capitalising on, nevermind exploring ways they can go further.Combine that with camera angles that are actually flattering to the girls instead of just closeups on their bits, and I think audiences would immediately flock towards them as their "go-to" pornstar.Another way of expanding on that; I think it's about knowing where the variety needed is versus the same but different.
>>4458703that's cool but i'm trying to learn>>4459272yeah i think i get it now, i guess masking is all i wanted to know, and you can really do layers of that or whatever you want under it. most of the tutorials i watched used magic mask in the paid version. i'm not sure doing it would have fit in the vibe of rest of the video anway.i'm onto colour grading but my footage isn't raw and the controls are different than something like Lightroom.
>>4459289if you know how masking and tracking works, then all you need is to figure out how to do it in nodes and resolve can be tricky sometimes because there are almost too many options.
>>4459285>worth millions (maybe I'm delusional)yep
I typically like shooting at 60fps with a 1/125th speed.If I use handbrake to encode it down to 30 or 24fps, will the footage look any worse / different than shooting at the correct shutter speed(angle) for that fps? Or will the fact I'm shooting at a higher shutter speed make the footage look choppy?
>>4459489If you take high fps footage and output it at a lower fps, you're just cutting frames. So it will look like you shot at a lower fps with the same shutter speed as the high fps footage.The exception is if you use a plugin/vfx to simulate additional motion blur.
>>4459489shoot the test footage brother
>>4459510>>4459520Fair. Now i'm gonna.Does there exist any cheaty way to shoot at a higher FPS but make it look normal if you decide you want to edit it to a lower FPS, but purely with settings?>The exception is if you use a plugin/vfx to simulate additional motion blur.I will keep this in mind, but I'm not super hopeful of the results; bluring is easier than sharpening but it's still artificial.
>>4459522The "cheat" is to film with normal shutter speed.Use a 360 shutter at 60p and your footage will look almost completely normal at 24p. Also bear in mind that some choose to shoot at 1/100 or whatever at 24p for artistic reasons like in Saving Private Ryan.But if you know you're delivering in 24p, shoot in 24p. Alternatively you need to experiment to see what you're comfortable with.
I do film and don't even touch events or live stuff. I've been content with my setup for many years, so I've had no reason to keep up with the news on gear.What's a good, recent camera to recommend to a friend who's doing events, breaking news, and some photography? Low light, internal stabilization, and a decent photo mode would be important to them. Anything that's comparatively retard proof?
>>4459831A camcorder for the live events. Easy to carry and use, and anybody point and shoot camera with interchangeable lenses or his phone for the photos. You are talking about spending 3k for more if you want one camera that can do both. Just try out many different camcorders and cameras until he finds which one works best for him. Live events means autofocus. You don’t want to worry about pulling focus during a live event unless, of course, you’re a masochist.
Brutal blackpill I got from an actor about the film industry: they want your money not talent.
>>4459919This has been obvious to everyone for the last 20+ years
Somebody I know has won a pretty important price at the Locarno film festival… I think im envious, or at least mad at myself for not doing more
>>4459967Good for the winner, and time to start doing more.
>>4459919Woah! No way?
>>4459919You could probably make a chart of how well talent correlates with success at different levels of production. The further up the ladder you go, the less it matters. The only exception to this is the black film industry, where at no point talent matters.
I'm sure I'm late to the party and this movie has already been talked about, but I finally got around to watching Pacifiction.It's my new main visual reference movie. Fucking hell it was one of the most visually beautiful movies I've watched in a long time.Shot on Blackmagic pocket 6k and old Canon zoom lenses.I read most of the halation and bloom effects were added in post and not with a filter on the camera.I would personally tune the diffusion down just a little bit, then it would be perfect. Exactly what I'm aiming for with my video work myself.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orTnb519t9w
>>4460026Reminds me of movies from the 40s but in color.
>>4460044I highly recommend watching it for the visuals alone.It's almost three hours long though, and the plot could basically have been 30 minutes, so it's VERY slow. But I was completely hypnotised by the visuals. It's like a tropical dream.They shot most scenes with up to three cameras too and they had something like 500 hours of footage when started the editing.I like that idea of having so many cameras. It will make the actors sort of act more naturally because they won't be aware of which camera is "on". They'll just focus on the acting.I'd like to get that Dehancer Pro plugin. It looks like that has tools to ballpark that look fairly easy. I've been using Filmconvert for so many years. I'd just like to try something new.I just need to upgrade all my shit in general. I'm a couple of generations behind with everything. Still only shoot with my trusty old 5dmkii..
>>4460026Canon has some real good lenses in their old catalog. A lot of the EF lenses render better than their RF counterparts.
>>4459967If you know them, why the fuck aren’t you “networking” better? Congratulate them and offer to buy them lunch. Then grill them for info, also offer to help on the next project, then ask for connections to help on your own project.Cmon man, this shit isn’t hard
>>4460070I'm still on Davinci 17, running a 2013 Mac Trash can with mojave or something. That Dehancer Pro does look nice, but at +$500, I might just get the monthly and cancel if I don't need it for a project.Speaking of software, anyone use Set.A.Light 3D? I might get it, enjoyed the trail version so far.
>>4460075They won it like a day ago, chill the fuck out.Also I was busy shooting my own stuff.Will definitely grill them tho
>>4460026>Serralmao>PacifictionOversaturated digital garbage >500 hours of this shitNow I know what Hell isYou can do much much better than this on multiple fronts
>>4460070>>4460077I love Dehancer, bought the lifetime version before the price increase. Highly recommend.A “couple of generations behind” isn’t bad at all. But I used to have a 5dmkii as well, and while I know and agree with all the usual shit that’s said about gear not being super important, I’d honestly recommend an upgrade for that at this point. You can get shit from Blackmagic for dirt cheap that absolutely blows the 5d out of the fucking water now. If you can afford it and make things like your lenses and other shit still work with it, I’d say go for it.
>>4460077>Set.A.Light 3DInteresting, haven’t heard of this before. How accurate/realistic is it?
>>4460077I still use old ass versions of Premier Pro and After Effects for everything. My life took a bit of a turn so I haven't worked with any video stuff in years. But I'm looking to get into it and would love to sort of start from a clean slate with new stuff all around.>>4460087It's the only movie of his I've watched.The colours are vivid and beautiful, especially compared to so much other shit that has that horrible flat desaturated look where they pump up green and yellow colours. I fucking hate that look. It was stunning to watch and a new benchmark for me, but the runtime could have been cut down drastically without losing anything.The 500 hours does sound like a nightmare.
>>4460131I'd say it's maybe 75% accurate? Not a bad way to get a lighting idea going and setting up, easier to organize and see problems and solutions before getting to a set.
>>4460130I feel antiquated in a bad way, that's why I need to upgrade my setup on pretty much every front.I still love the images my 5dmkii takes though. I still use it a lot, but it's a fucking dinosaur compared to what cameras can do now. Just need some dosh so I can get to it.
>>4460133>I still use old ass versions of Premier Pro and After EffectsI still have CS5 Production suite installed. So far last year, I only used Adobe Encore for DVD image authoring because MTI, that company that has the rights to a bunch of musical plays, only allows DVD release of the shows and one of my clients needs it.
>>4460135Only for studio situations or able to simulate outdoors? Sunlight through windows? Time of day?
>>4460133I was just being a /film/ asshole. His earlier films are great, check them out
>>4460070Dehancer is the only good film emulation software I've ever seen, and I've tried out everything I've encountered over the past 20 years. Meanwhile, convincing VHS emulation has barely improved at all, which is just fine since there's a dozen ways to process a video through actual VHS pretty easily.
>>4460159>simulate outdoors? Sunlight through windows? Time of day?Not right now, but I'd imagine it might come in the future.
>>4460162Sorry, I'm just tired of people being contrarian and looking for a fight, so normal irony gets kinda lost here to me. My bad.I'll definitely check some of his other work out.>>4460173Yeah, I've seen some great results with it. I've been happy with Filmconvert over the years, but it seems extremely limited compared to what you can do with Dehancer. Just need to save up some more money.
>>4460200I hope you know that you can get it for free in the meantime. There's no scarcity with software, it's not smashing and grabbing to torrent something. The only point in paying is to support the continued existence of things you find worthwhile, not just to abide by somebody's sense of ownership over a pile of numbers. You aren't supporting anything by depriving yourself of a digital asset you could have right now. Download it, play with it, and if you feel indebted to the creators, purchase it when you can.
Anyone able to advise on what Mac I should go with? I'm considering either a Air with 1TB/24GB or a Pro with 512GB/24GB. I don't care much about internal space since everything will be on external SSDs, but is there much difference worth going for the Pro? As far as I know the fan is the only real difference.Majority is Lightroom usage but I'd also be doing some 4k video in Davinci Resolve, hence going for 24GB RAM in both cases.
>>4458161best I can do for you, they are pretty close to being a wallaby shot on 85mm, got as close to the fence as I could
>>4460314I know, I just like to support people who make products I actually use. It's the same with music production stuff which is my main thing
>>4460373>music production stuffI’ve seen a lot of that has switched to the monthly subscription shit, which I’m actually thankful for because I can easily afford 1 month to fuck around with music shit VS paying $3k for the lifetime key. Any you recommend?
>>4460450I used Pro Tools for 20 years. Switched over to the subscription version because I thought it would be nice to always get the new updates instead of running on my old ass Pro Tools 8 or whatever old version I had for years.But I stopped subscribing because my life kinda crashed and I can't afford it anymore. So now I don't have it anymore because I should just have bought the lifetime key for the new version instead.There are pros and cons to picking the subscription model and lifetime key model. You just pick the one that suits you. I personally regret picking the subscription version, but I'd been fine with it if my life had stayed normal.
>>4460490Damn, sorry to hear that. I haven’t explored a lot of them, but I’ve heard there are a few cheap or even free ProTools alternatives that hold their own, could always give them a try. Aside from DAW, any VST plugin or pack subscriptions you recommend?
>>4460490>my old ass Pro Tools 8I used fucking ancient cracked versions of AVID and After Effects for YEARS, finally made the switch to Resolve and never looked back
>>4460490I wish there was an option to pay just to use it once. I need audio tools for one project. I don’t feel like subscribing to something just to cancel it. I wish there was a model where you could buy credits that let you use it as needed.
>>4460500I might have a look at the free pro tools version. I remember looking into it before and there was some insanely basic function you were locked out of.It's all for music production, so I don't know how relevant it is for the video general, but Soundtoys make amazing plugins (I particularly love their plate reverb plugin (it sounds incredible) and their delay plugin called Echoboy. Soundstoys have very big discounts a couple of times every year and sometimes even free plugins. Highly highly recommend them. Top level stuff.I also love Goodhertz plugins like Vulf Compressor and Wow Control to add "colour" to tracks. I use them on the master bus on every track I make and tweak to whatever the track needs. They sound so fucking good. Lohi is a cool filter too and Midside Matrix is free and cool for some stuff.Those are some of my favourites for sort of general use and not drum machines, synths and other instrument stuff.>>4460502It's more I don't know if the old versions are compatible with new plugins, windows and shit like that.I'd also like to be able to open up all my sessions for reference in pro tools too, so not looking to change my DAW. I just need some dosh to get back on the train.
>>4460450things switched to subscription as companies got bought by private equity and it's the easiest way to get you to pay forever
>>4460515Thanks for the recs, sound and music is part of the game too. I do all the sound design and composition for my short films. A few posts discussing it should hopefully not send anyone into rage meltdown>drum machines, synths and other instrument stuffPlease drop any recs you’d have for these if you don’t mind. I only know of the big names like Native Instruments, Slate digital, Waves, Eastwest
>>4460372kek, I'll take it.Colors look very smooth. Nice job.
>>4460364Indeed, the main difference between the air and the base pro is the fan, which does help with heavy workloads, though the pro is also available with a more processor cores, and CPU power is the biggest factor in how Resolve will perform provided you have enough RAM, and 24GB should be enough for most tasks.The base M4 is about as powerful as the M2 Max and M3 Pro in processor intensive tasks, though they are likely going to be more powerful in GPU intensive tasks, especially the M3 Pro, so if you're on a budget I'd go for a used but recent pro with the M3 Max or M3 Pro or M2 Max (in this order).I remember Lightroom was coded poorly and the main factor in how it performed was single core CPU performance, so any M4 > any M3 > any M2, though I imagine unless you're editing 150MP raws on the regular any recent apple computer will do perfectly fine.If it doesn't have to be a laptop then get a mini following the same guidelines about processors, or a studio if you want the most powerful thing you can reasonably get.Current apple computers are a good deal if you buy the cheapest available models, but if you want a machine to really work with they're not very convenient at all, what with the price of 500GB of storage and 16GB of RAM, so unless you're doing something that requires the greatest possible amount of reliability and/or you want something as powerful as possible for your money I recommend putting together a computer yourself and then installing MacOS on it, OpenCore has a great set up guide.
>>4460500>cheap or free DAWsAny DAW is fine and perfectly workable, it's all up to preference.Reaper is free, Pro Tools isn't worth anything in 2025 and hasn't been for years, Logic just works and Nuendo costs €1k, but they mostly all do the exact same things.I use Logic because it's the first thing I got used to.>VST pluginsI recommend not wasting time being a gearfag.Analog Obsession plugins are free and they work perfectly well, Lexicon PCM reverbs are relatively cheap for what they are and sound as good as it gets, most Softube plugins are relatively expensive but they mostly sound great, the Sonnox Oxford suite is often offered at a great discount and has everything you need, and the possibilities are really endless, so it's best to first have an idea of what you're looking to do that you CAN'T already do with what you have, and starting your search from there.As far as drum machines go, I've never felt like I needed anything more than Maschine with its factory library.If you need serious and funny percussive sounds without the drum machine you look for a reputable sample pack of whatever instrument(s) you need and you load them in Kontakt Player, or the full Kontakt if some instrument requires it (it's not worth it unless you're pirating it or your projects generate a stable high income).Or you can load your own samples into whatever free sequencer you can find, that's a lot of work but it forces you to work to find samples that really sound like what you're looking for, and it's free.
>>4460523It's all a matter of taste and context really. For the stuff I do I loved the EZ Drummer 2 expansion called UK pop. It has the kits and sounds I like for most stuff, but I also have the Getgood Drums called Modern & Massive that sound incredible for rock and stuff like that.They have some small/easy/plugandplay type plugins, but also big expansive ones. Seriously check them out for drum machines.I also recommend the Aly James Lab plugins. It's a one guy operation and I think he only does VST format plugins (which is fucked for Pro Tools users like me...) but his Linn Drum plugin is great for 80's drums. He has a lot of other specific retro synths and drum machines. Definitely worth a check.The TAL-U-NO-LX synth is a re-creation of a Roland Juno 60 and does a very wide range of synth sounds. Leads, bass, pads. It does a ton and has a great fat and smooth/soft sound that's great for all those ambient style stuff that a lot of movies and shit use. Check that out too.>>4460535I agree, every Daw pretty much do the same stuff, just a little differently. But it's basically the same workflow.I picked Pro Tools back in the day because it was an industry standard and was more focused on "live recording" and not so much midi focused like Logic.And regarding plugins I agree, many people get into a deep hole and buy tons and tons of plugins they never end up using. You can get extremely far with just some simple and basic stuff and just learn how to use them properly. EQ is insanely powerful (especially reductive EQ if you want a clean mix), learn how to use a compressor properly (and learn parallel compression), learn how to use reverb properly. Reverb is one of the most essential tools to setting the overall vibe of what you're doing.You don't need a ton of stuff to have a wide range. I just bought some essential stuff and the sounds I liked and then basically just used the same stuff for years.
>>4460535>>4460736Do any of you use drum machines or synths to do foley. Sample footsteps and stuff like that and use that drum machine to add footsteps and stuff like that to your film. Or do they make a machine that’s like a synth or drum machine especially for laying down a foley track so you don’t need to use a synth or drum machine to do it.
>>4460757I haven't done it myself, but I think the whole idea behind foley sound creation is do and use whatever works.But I reckon the sampling and drum machine type use would work after you've gotten the sound you want from the foley guys
>>4460757Whenever I’ve done foley in the past, it’s literally putting the clip onto my phone and watching it while recording myself doing shit. So I watch clips of characters walking in a room, I set up a mic and walk in the room. Then I sync the recording with the video by hand since I’m usually not 100% accurate with what I’ve recorded. Maybe there are faster/easier ways of doing it, but that’s what I’ve done.
>>4460869I figured watching the video in resolve and hitting a pad on a drum machine or a synth loaded with samples of footsteps every time the characters foot hit the ground. Everypad would be a different thing they could step on and you hit the pad harder for a louder footstep and softer for a more quiet footstep. Or something like that.
>>4460531I'm really preferring a laptop for portability and for the good screen. I've done a little editing on an Air with only 8GB RAM and by some miracle Davinci didn't use any swap at all on 1080p videos (but did on 4K) so I'm very inclined towards the Air again but with much higher specs, since there's a good $400+ difference for similar specs on a Pro. My only concern of course is whether the Air really is a good choice for 4K editing based on being passively cooled.Lightroom on that 8GB Air however was a horror show, I work with 40MP photos and it was going into swap memory instantly and using up gigs of it. Lightroom must be coded like absolute shit if Davinci can edit 1080p log footage without proxies with no issues.
>>4460869lol I did the same thing.Had a character walking up some stairs so there I was awkwardly staring at my phone in my apartment building's stairwell trying to sync my footsteps. Great fun.
>>4460875>laptop for portability and for the good screenThe laptop screen is actually good? Figured it wouldn’t come close to external monitors. I’ve done no research on this, so it’s news to me.
>>4460877>Great fun.You know, whenever I’m in the middle of a project, having “fun” is the last thing on my mind. I’m usually so stressed out and just focused on finishing the thing and making it as good as I can. When I’m done, then I always look back and think positively and wish I enjoyed it more. My wife always tells me to “have more fun” when I’m doing this shit. Need to try harder to remember and actually do it.
>>4460882> I have trouble having fun when I’m doing video shit.Give drugs and alcohol a shot, and see if getting drunk or high while filming shit helps you have fun.
>>4460880On the Macbooks? Fuck yeah, probably the best you can get on laptops.
>>4460882Filmmaking (including directing, editing and just showing up on set) is the worst thing imaginable except when compared to literally anything else. It's one of those things that's so stressful and intense, 24/7, with basically no silver lining. It pays shitty (if at all) and the end product is never good enough. But at the same time you have to really love it and there's nothing else like it. I support advances in ai filmmaking and animation but it's not the same even if the end result got to the point where it was indistinguishable. Last time I was directing on set was some of the best times in recent memory.I really want to do it again but there's just enough roadbumps in the preproduction phase to keep my feet cold. You can never make everything perfect in advance, but I don't want to just wing it and rely on coming up with major solutions on the spot (in the past this has had inconsistent results)
>>4460883Oh I’m sure it would- but the quality (what little there is) would absolutely tank as well
>>4460886Agreed. I’m shooting a “fun” project this weekend- have done a shitload of prep and planning before hand, hoping to minimize any issues. Wish me luck.
>>4460525Just a cst from C3 to R709, tonez go hard without even trying,mattebox is something on the list to sort out next, ND filters would be nice, and you look more "pro" with a mattebox
>>4460757I don't use any synths or drum machines to do foley, only mics.I suppose if I had to do a hell of a lot of it I might use a plugin for footsteps (there are plugins specifically for footsteps), but that's it.>>4460875>my only concern is whether the air is good for 4k editing even if it's passively cooledIt's going to be a bit worse than the pro using the same processor, but not by much, though whether that's going to be enough for you is impossible to say.Using proxies it's absolutely feasible to edit 4K video using significantly worse hardware, so it's all up to your needs whether it's worth going for an older pro with a more powerful processor.>>4460880You'll have to spend at least $700 to get an external monitor as good as that of a modern macbook, and it's good enough for everything aside from really critical color work.>>4460886>another episode of someone who's never plowed a field in their life, worked in a factory for three months or wondered where they would sleep at night complaining they have it harder than anyone else
>>4461094>another episode of someone who's never plowed a field in their life, worked in a factory for three months or wondered where they would sleep at night complaining they have it harder than anyone elseAre you fucking dumb or just trolling?
>>4460026Would it be possible to get an interesting aesthetic with older EF-mount low tier kit lenses (ie. ones provided with film era cameras)? Do any of them have an interesting aesthetic or are they just shit?
>>4461161You can get interesting looks from most of the older film-era lenses. When some moron on YouTube talks about how good the lens is, the price will go up. But all vintage lenses will give you an unique look if you know how to use them and lean into their flaws.
How can I think differently to do ads? For example look at this video. It is everything you would expect from an ad which involves running. It is "good" like typical of instgram ads but it has no style. There is no surprise. It is working on a template. It is just what you expect for """sophisticated""" young audience on Pinterest and Instagram to like. How would you redo this ad? And if you're doing ads is it cool to just care for money and produce template shit or should you put in some original ideas?
>>4461236There's 3 ways of doing ads>show off the product clearly, explaining why it's great in a way that isn't dull>show off something barely related that's exciting and grabs attention (basically an unrelated short film), and then mention the product at the end (ie advertise by association) (see perfume ads for an obvious example, also common for events and things that are hard to show off like banking)>show off the product in a really dumb and obnoxious way that will probably piss people off but will certainly be memorable (probably includes an annoying jingle)Everything else is just trying to reinvent/combine the above.> And if you're doing ads is it cool to just care for moneyThere's no other reason to do ads. People who care about their "art" in ads are deluded and coping with the fact that they aren't making actual films.
>>4461242What is the road to become a director for ad agency?
>>4461242>People who care about their "art" in ads are deluded and coping with the fact that they aren't making actual films.brutal truth
>>4461236>How would you redo this ad?I would rather slice my cock off and eat it than do commercial work
>>4461243Like everything in the industry, there's no one way but having friends/connections will help more than anything else.I think the most straightforward path is to establish yourself as a small production house. Set up a company. Shoot some weddings and small ads for local businesses, make some spec ads as well. Make a decent showreel from the footage and then scour facebook/nextdoor/linkedin or just wait until a larger company is in a bind and reaches out on a whim.You can also try getting a job at an ad agency and working your way up. Whatever method you choose, it will take time and effort though. It's not something you can just casually do to earn money while thinking about your next film (unless you're established well enough that your name carries weight).
>>4461246Kek, what is your issue with it? >>4461247>>You can also try getting a job at an ad agency and working your way up.Which job is the go to if my background is in photography? Thanks you explaining.
>>4461246How are you going to eat? What are other options? Directors like Kirostami and Roy Andersson shot ads before making films.
>>4461254>Which job is the go to if my background is in photography?Whichever one you can get. It depends where you live I guess but the job market is ass pretty much the world over. Media has always been super competitive and there are always going to be like 20 people with better grades, more specific qualifications and better people skills vying for the same job.I think personal assistants are often the simplest way into companies like that if you're not a recent graduate but depends on the company and country.(Warning: if you try this, there's a fair chance that you'll end up as a number cruncher or administrative director after 10 years instead of anything creative)
>>4461255Literally any other kind of job. I keep filmmaking separate from “work”- it has no relation to money concerns for me at all. It is pure.
>>4461236Show her running late for a meet and using the water to give her that extra boost to make it.
>>4461236She would be finishing a track workout, dripping with sweat. She would take a long refreshing drink from the product, then slowly pour it all over her chest. She would gently lick the last drop of the product from the bottle tip before setting the bottle down on a bench. Close up on the bottle, tagline, all done.
>>4461862>before setting the bottle down on a benchDon't forget the satisfied gaze into the lens. And before anyone says kek, remember, Axe body spray made a killing using that kind of advertising.
>>4461236I noticed something lacking at the 7 second mark. I can't pinpoint exactly what it is, but I suggest inserting 10 frames of her on the turf getting mounted by a German Shepherd around that point. That should separate you from the crowd.
Filming at a park. Park ranger kicks me out, “No photography”. There weren’t any signs posted stating no photography in the park, there was nothing online stating no photography in the park. What would you do?
>>4462129Did you use a tripod? Most of the parks will let you film or photograph whatever you want if you are holding the camera, but the moment sticks hit the ground they don’t like it because it makes it harder for other people to enjoy the park. That or you were taking creep shots and the girls asked him to get you to stop.
>>4462140Yeah, it was 90% of the full kit- tripod, dovetail, cage, vmount battery, follow focus, SSD, monitor, microphone. Was just about to even put on the matte box for the next shot since it was towards the sun, but got fucked. Looked up the Explore Act, filming should be pretty good to go in national forests without any permits. So fuck that park, time to go to the forest.
>>4462129not be a fucking rookie
>>4462144They don’t even like DSLRs or mirrorless cameras on tripods and you break out the full kit. I bet you brought out the c stands (to shape the light) and a boompole to make sure that the audio was spot on. Right?
>>4462357>c stands (to shape the light)Almost did (for negative fill mostly, not a fan of diffusion) but decided against it at the last second >a boompole to make sure that the audio was spot onWe were shooting MOS but I still had a mic on the camera cage to capture reference ambient/location sound for ADR and mixing later.
I think my age is showing.I'm gearing up to shoot a feature in 2 months time. But I've got anxiety like never before about it and my subconscious keeps screaming at me to cancel and find any excuse not to do so. Making this will hurt my savings but I'm not spending them on anything else and it's relatively not that much anyway. I might fuck up but that's always a fear and if I do it's just a film. I feel like this is my last chance to try and prove my "worth" and will likely give up altogether if the film fails. But I just feel like I'm being sabotaged by myself and I'm about to commit financially.I've done this before for the record, which makes it even more annoying. I just want to smoothly make this film, have a fun time doing so and then edit together an enjoyable film that people like that makes me enough money to keep doing it./rant
>>4462129land of the free lol, at least they let you keep your AR
Alright, listen up ya rubes. Most of you don't seem to understand the clusterfuck that's about to hit this industry.In a year, 2 at most, ai filmmaking will take over. It's happening whether you like it not. It will start with replacing backgrounds to a believable level, reducing location fees. It will progress with insert shots that were missed on the day, avoiding an extra day of pickups. It will quickly replace all dangerous stuntwork. It's not hard to see.You might be tempted to assume that this means that filmmaking will get exponentially cheaper and there's no point in making anything for the next couple of years (why pay full price for something now if it will be a fraction of that in not very long?). Wrong. It's actually pretty much the opposite.This change in structure will result in massively lower demand for sets, cameras & gear, and actors. These industries/people will still want/need money though. So their prices will rise quickly, and they'll still be taking huge losses. The result? Practical filmmaking will become almost impossible for anyone outside of hollywood.Ok, but ai filmmaking will be so good that it won't matter right? Wrong. We're about to enter what I call the uncanny valley of filmmaking. These ai films will be very noticeable. Even when they achieve photo-realism the movements will be too similar/off, the aesthetics too generic, you won't have enough control over the output etc. Advertising companies won't give a shit. High schooler filmmakers won't care. Tiktokers couldn't care less. But filmmakers from the before time, we'll remember and we'll hate it.So for about 5 years (maybe more, maybe less), you'll be unable to make any sort of kino. It will be too expensive to film real subjects. It will look too shit to use ai. So indie filmmaking will essentially die a painful breath.Eventually, it will fix itself and ai filmmaking will look as good as real filmmaking with an intuitive way to affect full control. But it will take time
>>4462586> keep your AKNot in NY or CA those states are communist states who want to trample on the 2nd amendment. Somebody should make a documentary about how gun control laws are Nazi laws. That would be an epic film.
>>4462589I predict anons using ai to make meme films. Expect a lot of epic films about Pepe the Frog or longcat or ceiling cat or the doge dog or turtles once ai filmmaking is here.
>>4462598They won't make entire films. It will take too much effort and no one will watch them (they won't have anywhere to upload them and the joke won't be worth that much time). It's the same as when teenagers had access to flash in the early 00s. We didn't see a wave of animated shitposting cinema. We saw a wave of short cartoon shitposts.That's what we'll get. 5 minutes at most, shitposts imitating epic production values.
>>4462572>but I'm not spending them on anything else and it's relatively not that much anywayThen who gives a fuck? Just do it>feel like this is my last chance to try and prove my "worth"This is the worst part of your post and the biggest area you need to focus on. You’ve got to delete this shit out of your brain. You’re a filmmaker- end of discussion. How many filmmakers have made bad films, had films cut production in the middle of filmming, made something and never released it, etc? So even if worst case happened to you, it means nothing in terms of your “worth”. Stop thinking this bullshit.>I've done this before for the record, which makes it even more annoying. Meh, each and every film is its own impossible miracle. You just gotta do it.>I just want to smoothly make this filmSmoothly? Good luck >have a fun time doing soNow this is entirely up to you and very achievable>and then edit together an enjoyable film that people likeAlso achievable >that makes me enough money to keep doing itAnd this is the second worst part of your post. Delete this shit out of your head. Fuck the money, do it for the love of doing it. If you focus on this part, the art is already compromised, and you might as well just save your money and invest it in a smarter option of making more on your investment.Just make the film, bro.
>>4462589I don’t give a fuck. I make avant-garde experimental films that rely on nothing but myself. This will not stop me in the slightest.
>>4462589What do the drawing/painting boards think of the AI “takeover”? Are they as much of a pussy as you are, dropping their pencils and brushes, pissing their pants afraid of computers and what the millionaires are doing?
>>4462705The good artists embrace ai because it’s a huge time saver; the gear nerds that use stuff like this as an excuse to procrastinate are the people who won’t make stuff because of ai. It was cost the same to film stuff irl if you do it guerrilla style. If you are using a crew—just stick with friends and family and you’ll be able to make stuff despite ai. Or just do what everybody else does and use ai to do stuff like rotoscoping, stuff that needs to get done but is a pain in the ass to do without the help of ai.
>>4462129>>4462144In most places in the world you need to pay for a permit to occupy public land, and the Land of the Free(r)(tm) is no exception.>Explore ActHand carried equipment only.>>4462589>AI filmmaking will take over>but it won't look any goodThat's pants on head retarded, why would it take over when a significantly better looking result can be obtained?Budget has never been an issue for studios.>AI filmmaking will take over in two yearsRecent advancements in generative AI are so small that even if things progressed at the same rate for the next two years AI would still be unusable to make a film.>nobody will need actors, so they'll raise prices, so indie films will be unfeasible because of budget constraintsI'm not sure you've thought this through.
>>4462705I'm not telling you to "drop your pencils". I'm saying the opposite: make your shit now before we enter the 5 years of awkwardness where it becomes a hellscape to navigate.>>4462766>>but it won't look any goodIt won't look good 'at first'. It will eventually. The uncanny valley is only temporary and I'm using it to refer more to movements and aesthetics as opposed to dumb things like incomprehensible signs and too many fingers (which will be solved before its adopted on that scale). It will just fuck indie filmmakers over for half a decade, give or take.>I'm not sure you've thought this through.So one of two things will happen:-either demand for traditional services (actors, locations, gear etc) will crater so much lower than people prepared for that they'll be forced to raise their prices just to avoid bankruptcy - thus lowering demand further in a spiral until they go bankrupt anyway-OR they'll try to answer by dropping prices as low as they can. But this will be unsustainable because the demand just won't be there.So what's rarely acknowledged is that the industry is propped up by small production houses and low-budget indie films. The small production houses buy all the overpriced gear and hire the overpriced locations for shitty commercials and corporate films. The indie filmmakers spend thousands on submission fees to festivals like Sundance and Venice who ignore 90% of submissions, while giving up and coming actors their first paid work for producers to notice them from.The small productions houses will move to ai as soon as its feasible because it will lower their costs so dramatically and their clients won't care about every actors' walking motion looking the same. The indie filmmakers won't want to go crazy but a lot of them will jump at the chance to be able to film everything in their garage in front of a green screen and not look like ass. But that's a domino effect.
>>4462766>Hand carried equipment onlyI’ve confirmed tripod use is allowed
>>4462791>the 5 years of awkwardness where it becomes a hellscape to navigateWe won’t drop our pencils for the next 5 years either
>>4462799>I'm going to keep strawmanning and ignore what you wrote so that I can pretend to be a champion of the artsWho are you trying to impress? There aren't any upvotes here and you just look like an illiterate retard
>>4462801I’m not pretending. Guess what you look like?
hello, I am trying to remaster some older vr footage where the color is different in the lens. What is the workflow to color correct a sbs video and then upscale it on TVAi? I can figure out the tvai settings, I just have never done color grading before. I do have my monitors calibrated and a coloriometer.
>>4462858>Guess what you look like?Someone who can read.
>>4462791Most indybros will embrace ai and use it in their productions. Ai won’t kill off indy filmmakers, it will give the tools they need to make their shitty films look incredible.
We will never put our pencils down.
>>4462589This only matters if you watch hollywood and netflix tier slop
>>4462589ai already peaked.
>>4462679Thanks, I think.It fell through due to location issues. And I think being honest I was rushing production too much anyway. I might try and get it filmed early in the new year instead.>You’ve got to delete this shit out of your brainIt's easy to say that on paper. The reality is that we all have metrics by which we judge ourselves. Without them life feels empty and pointless.It's not (necessarily) about impressing others, just justifying it yourself (or maybe just myself). It can be a bad film, but I need to prove that a. I can make the film that I want to make, and b. the film I want to make is good (and hopefully others agree is good)If those things aren't the case then there's no point in making films. If those are true when I'm trying to be more ambitious then I can focus more on making it 'big'.> Fuck the money, do it for the love of doing it.The love of doing it doesn't pay the bills or get me out my parent's house.>the art is already compromisedNo art that's trying to be good can ever be truly pure by definition. The reality is that I don't want to just make shit for the sake of it. I can imagine a story, or write it for myself and that's fine. I can take photos or even make an aimless short if I really want to visualise that story. I make a feature because I want others to enjoy the story I want to tell and feel the vibes I want to convey.I don't consider myself a sellout because I wouldn't ever make something that I didn't truly want to make. But yeah, money is important as is the audience reception and the ability to do so in the future.It's not so black and white as to say they're the only things that matter. A film I make will always be more valuable to me than some random marvel film for example.But to me art is about conveying a shared experience to others, not just jerking off and telling others to like it or hate it.
>>4463466>rushing production too muchYeah, this is one of the massive advantages of truly indie shit- you can take your time on nearly every aspect if you want to. So definitely don’t rush when you can spend more time planning and locking shit down.>life feels empty and pointlessIt is, but you’re obviously not ready for that realization yet (and this actually helps with other issues you have)>The love of doing it doesn't pay the bills or get me out my parent's housePlenty of artists have day jobs that are completely separated from their art in order to pay the bills. >I don't want to just make shit for the sake of it>money is important >as is the audience receptionThen go fuck yourself. >just jerking offPeople always end up using ridiculous mottos like this when backed into a coping corner. Surprised you didn’t use the P word too. I could use the same ridiculous logic against you (a desperate need for circle jerk validation) but I won’t. Instead I’ll share my honest opinion that should be apparent by now- art is a therapeutic act of self expression, a means to an end of the intrinsic action itself. Anything outside of that is unnecessary and unneeded. So I encourage you to write and film shorts like you mentioned.
>>4463476>I could use the same ridiculous logic against you (a desperate need for circle jerk validation)Validation isn't a circle jerk unless it's constant validation from the same small group of isolated retards. I don't think that really holds.>but I won’t. Instead I’ll share my honest opinion that should be apparent by now- art is a therapeutic act of self expression, a means to an end of the intrinsic action itself.It can be. That's not all it is. I can find a nice rock and paint it blue. That might make me feel better. That's definitely art. Personally I don't value that as much as I value a good film. There's no objective better or worse art but there is art that we choose to give more value to.>Anything outside of that is unnecessary and unneeded.All art is arguably unnecessary and unneeded (I mean I think it's an important part of the human condition but not the point)>So I encourage you to write and film shorts like you mentioned.No. I wouldn't value them as much. I've got harddrives full of short films from the last decade. I never rewatch them. They get barely any views. I'm glad I made them, but their only real worth to me is the memories of making them and the lessons I learnt.I want to make something that connects with other people. I don't know why that offends you.
So what are our bets on who's buying arri?The 3 frontrunners seem to be:>Canon (have failed to establish staying power in the high end cinema market and are likely annoyed by Nikon's purchase of Red)>Panasonic (already have a working relationship with arri and don't have any major cinema cameras anymore since the varricam is basically dead)>DJI (have been inching ever closer into becoming a camera company)
>>4463487>I want to make something that connects with other people.If this was solely your original statement, I wouldn’t have had as much of an issue with it. >I don't know why that offends you.And you never will.
>>4463547Canon has a relationship as well, Arri made a bunch of add ons for Canons C series camera. My money is on Canon or Arri adjusts their business model.
>>4463790I think my surprise with canon would be that they're very proud of their colour-science and they produce their own sensors.I think panasonic and dji would be a lot more eager to get their hands on the "arri look", though obviously canon would love arri's marketshare in the cinema world.I'm especially curious to arri's sensor designs. Canon with their c70 and pansonic with gh7 and s1ii have been replicating the dual pixel readout to get better dr, but they're still nowhere close to the dr of the arri 35. If canon bought them, could they use the same tech in canon's sensors? Or do onsemi own a substantial portion of the tech? Because I can't imagine canon collaborating with another sensor producer
>>4463804Interesting.Nikon hasn't done anything with Red other than add a zmount to the komodo line and restructure Reds pipeline, for example, Komodo used to be made in USA now it's made in Mexico and it doesn't ship with a battery or power connector for the DC adapter. I wonder if Canon just wants Arri in their profile and restructure like Nikon did.
>>4463812>profile*Meant to type portfolio
>>4463812Since nikon's purchase of red, their legitimacy in the video world has gone up by a lot. Them buying red is probably indicative of how serious they're taking video as opposed to the reason they're being taken seriously now, but their cheap camera footage looks kind of incredible these days (even if the bitrate still makes it impractical imo) and I assume that's got to have something to do with the luts red released for nlog.I doubt they'd do it for no reason or with no plan. I assume they have something big coming and don't want to announce/release anything prematurely. If I was a betting man, I'd guess that they probably have about 4 cameras coming soon:>big cinema camera - successor to the raptor>smaller production camera in response to the canon c80 and sony fx3 (and maybe a bigger version of the same camera, like the c400 and fx6) - an 8k beast that uses a sensor similar to the one from the raptor or monstro (I guess this would technically a successor to the komodo)>new flagship mlc - successor to the z6iii with a better sensor and new menus/ergonomics>komodo in an mlc body for a cheaper priceI think the least likely of the above to happen is a successor to the raptor since the demand just isn't there. Red went under because sony effectively ate their marketshare as the alternative to arri. So launching another expensive camera in that region would probably lose money. But it might be worth it just to save face and keep their presence alive since big filmmakers still use them.
>>4463547I hope panasonic buys them just so that their cameras get a better raw codec than this prores bs
>>4461236sex
>blackmagic adds subscription option for resolveWhelp. It was bound to happen eventually. We had a good run while it lasted.
>>4465685I checked blackmagic’s website and it’s still a one time fee. How much is this subscription going to be per month?
>>4465758I think they're reporting £25/month.It starts with making it optional. But at that price tag, you're paying the entire one time fee within a year to not own it. Subscription models have taken over because of how profitable they are comparatively.Blackmagic has won a large marketshare by being genuinely great to its consumers and better than its competitors. Amazon did the same thing back in the 00s and early 10s. So did google. Look at them now.Win them (consumers) by being great, then fuck them when there's no competition.
>>4465770Is that subscription just for generative ai stuff or is it resolve will stop working if you don’t pay it? I’m hoping it’s just for ai stuff.
>>4465801https://www.redsharknews.com/davinci-resolve-studio-monthly-rental-blackmagic-cloud
>>4465942You can still buy resolve for $300 that rental thing is just if you need extra licenses of resolve to do stuff like vfx so you don’t need to send somebody a dongle. If you are an indy filmmaker you probably don’t need it.
>>4465954>missing the entire point: the postAre you illiterate or just dumb? "It STARTS with making it optional".
>>4465963Only thing stopping it is if Adobe changes course, which I don't think it will. Surprised Final Cut or Media Composer doesn't have it, although with Avid, you need to pay for updates.
>>4466033Macs game plan is different. They don’t want you to be tied to a subscription. They want you to be tied to needing a Mac to run their software.
What's the opinion here on using an iphone for filming videos? They have tiny sensors and I don't like using them for photography but whenever I see these "iPhOnE 4k ciNemAtiC foOtAge" videos on youtube I'm quite surprised how good these videos look. My Fuji GFX obviously isn't good for making videos (only full-hd) so I don't know wether to buy a dedicated 2nd system just for video or just upgrade my iphone to the 17 pro and call it a day. Videos are just for fun, vacation and my kids. I do plan to cut them and do some light editing in resolve or so.
>>4466480If it looks good then go for it? Personally I wouldn't because the ergonomics are so shit along with the tiny sensor (plus imagine owning an iphone lmao).If you're not shooting seriously then why do you even care? The rule of thumb is always to use what you have and only upgrade if you find that what you have isn't sufficient for what you want to do. You haven't given any justification for why you need more than an iphone.
>>4465942they don't advertise it, but they totally support dongles on the dl
Canon c50 full specs leaked>7k open gate raw and compressed recording (decent compression too making it usable)>4k 120 no crop>dual iso (800 and 12800?)>no ibis, no evf>attachable xlr top handle unit>sub $4k priceEveryone's saying this is canon's answer to the fx3 (which is weird because the r5c, c70 and c80 already seem like decent responses but whatever). I'm just impressed/surprised that they have 7k non-raw recording. Never seen a non-raw resolution between 4k and 8k in a canon camera before.This seems very uncharacteristic of canon. I don't see how this won't cannibalise c80 sales.
>>4466661> I don't see how this won't cannibalise c80 sales.It probably will. That's probably the point. They're likely seeing real slow sales of C series cameras save for the stuff they're selling to production firms (yeah lots of those floating around kek). These hybrid cameras are selling well from what I remember reading about the R5C and appear much more accessable and familiar to a lot of lower-tier movie/video users.4K120 with no crop is nice, but the R50 V can do 4k60 (as well as anything newer than an R8) and realistically who the fuck is delivering content in 120fps.No IBIS is the biggest what the fuck I'm seeing here. There goes your handheld market, so in typical Canon fashion they're making ass backwards market segmentation choices that makes no sense.>sub 4k priceThe R5C is like... $3000?
>>4466661>attachable xlr top handle unitThese things are so damn ugly.
new iphone does prores raw, love or hate them, that's pretty cool hey
What kind of camera should I get if I want to make something that looks like this?
Resolve finally gets prores raw support.Looks like Grant finally got over his pettiness (pun intended). Shame because it's a horrendous inefficient codec and this will encourage others to adopt it but whatever.
Is it normal to have noise in the shadows in daylight with 0 gain?
>>4466691only big boy cameras get in-body xlr
>>4466960Depends how much noise, but yes. Noise appears in everything unless you denoise the footage (and even then there will still be some there that you can't see unless you go overboard). It's just how camera sensors work.
Nikon zr announced>first major red x nikon collab>6k partially stacked full frame (assumedly same sensor as z6iii)>6k60, 4k120 (1.5x crop)>internal 32 bit float audio (probably an xlr top handle coming)>ibis>red colour science (new R3D NE codec from RED, based on the R3D RAW codec)>$2200>mini hdmi port>1 cfexpress slot and 1 micro sd card slot - in the battery grip>autofocus button is the same as the record button (what the actual fuck?)>r3d raw codec has only one compression setting, the equivalent of 'high' quality - 660gb/hour>shit ergonomics in generalSo instead of red fixing nikon's video, it seems nikon has just ruined red's bodywork. Like the nikon z line before it, on paper the specs are decent. But in reality it's impractical at best to use it as any sort of 'cinema' camera.
Has 4chan produced a director?
>>4466988Yes but no millennial in the public eye is going to come forward and risk tanking their public persona by talking about their 4chan days.The Safdies are the closest you'll get and even then we only know that they've shitposted on /tv/ before, not that they grew up on the site or spend any real time here.
>>4466986>Canon in shambles>C50 BTFO'd before it's even announced.
Oh shit, the news just keeps coming>Vimeo to Be Acquired by Bending Spoons for $1.38 BillionI don't know how you evaluate vimeo as being worth anywhere near that much since every year they erode more and more good faith and lose more customers, but I imagine the board are very happy to get off that sinking ship.
>>4466992Why not? I would imagine if the career of some director is not taking off he could name drop 4chan and get a cult like following like Sam Hyde.
>>4466986>>4466993The canon c50 is weird because it feels like it's cannibalising every other cheap canon cinema camera.The nikon zr is weird because it feels like they've taken a shitty vlog camera, put in a decent sensor and red raw, and left every other feature in its shitty state. You can't really argue with that price point but at the same time, imagine using one of those on an actual set. The image apparently looks like complete ass unless you're shooting in raw too. But that raw image looks incredible and is literally a full frame red camera for very little money. It's like it's daring indie filmmakers to put up with hell for the chance to shoot with a red camera.The funny thing is that the c50 would essentially be perfect if it had ibis.With resolve finally supporting prores raw, the s1ii is now a lot more viable as a serious cine cam. But that has its overheating issues. So maybe if lumix announce an actual cine version of it that doesn't crap itself in sunlight then we'll finally get that "perfect" indie cinema camera.
>>4466996>The canon c50 is weirdEverything mirrorless they've done feels weird. The R6II is the only camera I can say they've made with no artifical crippling and good performance for the generation.Why get an R50 when the R50V exists? Why get an R50 V when the C50 exists? Why exclude IBIS (a video feature) from your entry-level pro video market?>I want a CanonBuy an R100>God noBuy an R50>No mech shutterBuy an R10>No IBIS?Buy an R7>$1500 for APS-C?Buy an RP>Bad DR, old sensorBuy an R>Vertical cross bar memeBuy an R8>Terrible battery life, no mech shutter againBuy an R6>Dated sensor + overheatsBuy an R6II>Too expensiveGet a different hobby
>>4466994Does this mean we'll get a subscription price reduction?
>>4466996>An actual set>Real movies>Mirrorless hybridLolThese are sold to amateurs who do music videos and interviews. Indie cinema is borderline irrelevant to the market just like real photography is so irrelevant to the market that leica can maintain a monopoly on it.
>>4467024>Why exclude IBIS (a video feature)To be fair, canon's ibis has never been great for video (only panasonic seems to be trying in that area) and including makes it harder to keep the camera cool while increasing the price. It's probably why the r5c has no overheating issues while the r5ii still struggles with 8k60 raw even with the fan.>Why get an R50 V when the C50 exists?The r50v is for vloggers and home movie makers. The c50 is for proper professional work.>R6II2 issues stopped me buying one. Lack of c4k and no intra codecs. Even my 70d has all-i recording.>$1500 for APS-C?From my understanding, the r7 is a basically a perfect camera stills-wise, with decent video specs that make it usable. But I mean this is why I jumped ship from canon in the first place. They increased prices while crippling their cameras in different ways. The old canon cripple hammer was understandable. You could tell what they were focused on and it didn't (to me) feel like they were crippling their cameras so much as just not including features that they didn't care about.The new cripple hammer feels intentional while the youtube retards praise them for it. It's annoying because their more expensive cameras (3k+) are basically perfect for what they are. But they're so expensive. So you look at their competitors who do so much, often more, for less money. But there's always that one feature that canon nailed that no one else does. Like sensor cleaning. Like colour science. Or just general ergonomics.
>>4467035>colour scienceRF colors are pukeworthyI honestly prefer nikon > fuji > sony = canon > panasonic
>>4467035>From my understanding, the r7 is a basically a perfect camera stills-wiseFor birders and macrofags sure. I'd agree. Cost-effective and feature-rich. Anyone else is going to want full frame for that price and rightly so, but to go to the R8 which is about the same price you lose every single feature that makes the R7 decent.>It's annoying because their more expensive cameras (3k+) are basically perfect for what they are. But they're so expensive. So you look at their competitors who do so much, often more, for less money.Which makes me think of Pentax which gives you full military-grade weather sealing in their cheapest DSLRs from 15 years ago. They made it work, so why can't Canon?They're huffing their own farts so hard to keep this "pro" image up that every model looks essentially the same but in order to sell 10 different products at once they have to segment things somehow.Current Canon should be selling six cameras: The R3, R5, R6II, R8, R7 and R10. The R50 V could just outright replace the R50 if you gave it EFCS (fuck the EVF, keep it compact). The R5C and C50 are allowed to exist but it would be disingenious to lump them together with the other models.In fact, if the R50 V did have at least EFCS I'd buy one yesterday. Slap a compact lens on like the RF28mm or 18-45mm and holy shit would that slap.
I bought an R5 mark 2 for stills and for short film/ documentary work. I’m considering buying a C400 or waiting for the C500 mark 3 as my A cam for video oriented projects and having my R5 mark 2 as a B cam. I’m a one man band and I’m planning on putting the majority of my projects on YouTube and film festivals. I doubt the image quality is any worse than a red Komodo X Am I retarded?
>>4467040why would you expect a consumer camera to be full weather sealed and give you high end video? videocameras have to breathe
>>4467052You might be but it depends.If you're a one man band, it sounds like you haven't got a huge budget. What would be the point of getting a proper big cinema camera? The canon c80 is literally a c400 but cheaper and aimed at one-man-bands. I struggle to understand what you think you'll be filming that an r5ii isn't enough in the first place?Have you ever done literally any video work? What is it that you found your r5ii couldn't do? How would you even efficiently operate a b cam if you're a 1 man band? If you want to waste 10k on a cinema camera, don't let me stop you. I just don't understand it.(also the c70 has the best dynamic range, outperforming a komodo, and is even cheaper than a c80)
>>4466919An SD Panasonic CCD camcorder that can shoot at 24fps. Something like AG-DVX100.
>>4466960If you're using a camcorder or a video camera, then most likely yes. Those usually have small sensors that can't collect enough light to produce a satisfactory image, so the signal has to be amplified considerably more than a bigger sensor would. The amplification results in less SNR, to the point where noise might be noticeable even with gain set to 0. This is common to all small sensor cameras, even the big expensive studio/broadcast cameras have issues. The same sensors also don't have enough space to hold large amounts of charge, so they saturate faster and amplification has to be done regardless. The only saving move is to have aggressive noise reduction (that's what smartphones do).
>>4466988The only one I can think of right now is Shane Carruth. They might be more channers who are directors but I can’t think of any right now. I think their was a German person here a while ago who was making some type of tv show.
>>4467091>>The only one I can think of right now is Shane Carruth.Any evidence?
So now that the price of the Eterna is out ($17k), who is Fuji aiming that camera for?
>>4467066I see, that sucksI don't get why they're putting these tiny sensors into professional camcorders
>>4467109There was discussion in the past how he was a channer after primer came out and they talked about how he used a gh series camera to do it and I think he shared an unfinished script on the chans in the past. I know for a fact that Germany tv show director was on the chans. I think I heard the director of primer was lurking on or contributed to /vid/ or something like that.
>>4466996>The funny thing is that the c50 would essentially be perfect if it had ibis.>I have no idea about cinema: the post.
>>4467143>retard trolling for attentionGo be a faggot literally anywhere else
>>4467120Small production companies/rental houses who want to advertise having medium format cinema cameras for "imax quality"
>>4467153Does the blackmagic 17k already fill that roll of imax quality footage …
>>4467154It's like almost double the price...
>>4467146Ibis fights external stabilization and introduces shake even when off.
>>4467162I was just used to the blackmatic cameras to be the cheap but good cameras that work and are used by indy filmmakers who can’t afford a red or an arri.
>>4467179Context matters.The only other cinema camera with a sensor that large is the arri 65 (and 65 mini or whatever they called it). You can't even buy that arri, but estimated price if you could, based on rental price, puts it well over $100k.The fuji comparatively has a considerably smaller sensor that's only halfway between full frame and medium format. It also doesn't feature internal raw, has shitty dr and a lack of decent frame rates.The bm 17k gives you something stupid like 8k180 if I remember right along with dr that rivals the arri 65 and very impressive rolling shutter.So yes, the bm17k is absolutely very cheap for what it is. And there's a chance that one day they'll shove the same sensor in a pyxis and release it for like $7k or thereabouts.
>>4467137To have the insane zoom range in a relatively compact package. If you're on set that hardly matters, but out in the field shooting life you may be physically limited by all kinds of obstacles, so to have more shot variety bigger zoom ranges are necessary. The same lens delivers many different ones.So if you need lots of compositions done fast and easy -> camcorderIf you need beautiful imagery -> any large sensor cameraHere's something to read about sensor size versus noise:https://www.dpreview.com/articles/5365920428/the-effect-of-pixel-and-sensor-sizes-on-noisehttps://www.dpreview.com/articles/2666934640/what-is-equivalence-and-why-should-i-care/4While sensor manufacturers engineer all kinds of tricks to make small sensors more effective, the fundamentals described in those links don't change much.
With those sweet video cameras that came out in the last days it made me think if videography is a better hobby than photography. What's your motivation to do it? I was thinking a lot about it today. Ever since a kid I always preferd watching those VHS tapes that my parents recorded back than instead of looking at photo albums. I could hear myself talking as a kid, see my movements, etc. so magical. It's like a travel in time. Photos always felt less alive. I think some years ago photography was really the way to go as you could shoot endless amount of photos, because they don't take much storage. Hardware was worse but good enough to edit still images. But now storage is dirt cheap, all modern computers can process video files. Hipsters are still busy shooting stills with their 10k Leica Ms and uploading on instagram. Almost no one is uploading pro videos. I have such an urge to buy a Nikon Zr, throw on a 50mm apo lens and do some Ozu Yasujirō style short movies of my family and kids. Trying to recreate those masterpieces. How amazing would it be to watch them for my kids when they grow up. Much more than the 10000 photos I shoot per year. Is this the enlightenment? Am I on the right path? Should I bury my Leica Q and buy the Zr?
>>4467227The zr is a joke of a camera but you do you
>>4467229Yeah, honestly I didn't do any research I just find it looks nice with that compact body and huge screen. Price is not too bad either. My Q can only do Full-HD, the lens is amazing though.
>>4467230just buy a canon r8 like the last idiot who asked for advice and then ignored all of it
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>>4467245>"hey goyim's I have 37 EF and RF lenses and really enjoy the Canon everything. What should I get to upgrade from my T6i?">BRO GET A Z6 OR A SNOY WHOGIVESAFUCK OR JUST SHOOT YOURSELF BECAUSE CANON BAD>"... I'll get an R8">NOOOO THAT IS VERBOTENIf your advice is retarded, don't be surprised when people don't listen
For guys in the movie industry working as techs, which brands do you dress with ? I want to get proper work pants
