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This is the Film General Thread, aka the /fgt/.
Please post film photos in this thread.
It's ok to ask about film gear in this thread.
old thread >>4453764

Thread Question: What did you get away with?
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EGG PHOTOGRAPH CONTEST DEADLINE IS SUNDAY EVENING CENTRAL TIME. WINNER TAKE ALL.
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>Absolutely no one:
>Doghair: you are now enrolled in my specific gay disingenuous contest
Yeah like the pet photo contest you made because your dog got called reddit turned out
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>>4457147
>EGG PHOTOGRAPH CONTEST
what's the deal? take a photo of an egg?
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>>4457149
How is it disingenuous if the tripfags vote?
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>>4457149
Meds.
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>>4457150
Yeah! Any and all photos are accepted as long as they contain an egg in them. I want to see if the tripfags will judge for us.
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>>4457152
you forgot the picture, latest /x/ seething tech :3
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>>4457150
I am considering a prize if there is enough participation as well. Maybe I'll give the winner some bitcoin or xrp lmao. I wish you could ship things anonymously. I would offer one of my 4x5 sinar F kits as the grand prize, but I'm too scared of getting doxxed.
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>>4457157
that's intimidating, plaubel makina is the largest i'd go lol
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>>4457158
>plaubel makina
>the journalist's choice... not because of quality but because you could beat somebody to death with it, and then take a picture
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>>4457158
Just think of 4x5 as easy 8x10. Once you get the motions down it is pretty straightforward.
I believe in you, anon!
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>>4457162
would probably need a handgun for that
and I'm from Europe :(
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I was a very lucky bastard and scored this unopened package of incredibly rare film for ~3 dollars a sheet along with the two boxes of expired txp. It's a 32 speed film, so it may still be pretty good. Thank you bad ebay sellers.

I may use it for my egg photograph submission. This is a very serious and important competition! :D


>>4457163
I'll figure something out, maybe. I don't think I can ship anything without doxxing myself, especially internationally.
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>>4457171
>I'll figure something out, maybe.
lol
>rare film
develop it cooler, maybe 19-21 celsius (maybe even lower, compensating for time of course), from my experience that's what old material is most sensitive to
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>>4457177
Thanks! Ill give it a shot. The txp has some base fog to it, but still prints/scans fine and it expired in 2001. All my 8x10 shors from last thread were using it. Hopeful for decent results.
510 pyro seems to be pretty okay-ish with not contributing base fog. I'm pretty interested to see how this stuff looks/prints!
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>>4457171
just 1:100 that bitch on rodinal
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>>4457181
You can also semi stand dev with 510 pyro using 1+500 dilution. It works quite well because it produces minimal base fog with extended dev times.
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ahh much better >>4456656

>>4457147
hm I have one shot left on a roll of delta 3200
wanted to snap a plane overhead but haven't had a chance, might as well shoot an egg instead
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>>4457218
confession: this was actually 1 stop under-exposed, fixed in post
but I really like the result so I may do it intentionally in the future
picrel I took immediately afterward, "properly" exposed
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>>4457219
doing a sunrise landscape with gold may have not been an amazing idea
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>>4457220
but it's a comfy stock, I like it
and it's cheap(ish)
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oh no I just absolutely fucked up trying to dev with little sleep. Prepared everything and was ready to go, said 'yep pull the cap off the developer' while I was pulling the cap off the dev tank to start. Put the lid back on quickly and said 'well let's try it anyway with half the dev time as normal'. Came out fogged to shit and the side of the film facing the light is cooked, but at least I didn't completely fry the photos beyond repair
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>>4457223
Just call it lomography and you'll be golden.
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>>4457218
Hell yes! Looking forward to it.
I took and devved the first iteration of my egg still life. Fudged the DoF and I need some refinement to my lighting setup and some compositional changes to make it just right.
Shots like pic are actually quite challenging to get just right. Amazing practice tho!

Joseph sudek shot a handful of egg pics.
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And another one. Maybe it will inspire someone. It did for me!
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>>4457221
cat
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I tried to self-develop this using a flash as backlight, but even at 1/256 the power was too much, now it looks expired.
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>>4457284
>using a flash as backlight
wait what?
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>tfw no eggs at home
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Nikkor W 210mm f/5.6
Portra 160 4x5
f/8 1/60
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Schneider Kreuznach 90mm f/8 Super Angulon
Portra 160 4x5
f/25 1/30
Direct sunlight seems to give the best looking colors. Color negatives are fun but idk if it's worth it given that I don't have any way to enlarge them and don't really want to do color printing anyway since it sounds like such a pain. I've got some E100 slide film but I'm thinking I'll send out for development of those.
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>>4457297
>>4457295
it's never too late to become an architect, anon
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>>4457295
>>4457297
Thread has been blessed by the good LF shooter
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>>4457295
>>4457297
this is definitive proof 4x5 doesnt automatically make photos good
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>>4457318
>>4457322
The duality of man
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>>4457318
There's pretty significant mistakes in the technical execution of both of those shots.
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>>4457329
Elaborate I'm genuinely curious as to what you think i could have done to improve
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>>4457336
#1 needed smaller aperture to get everything in focus. Smaller aperture would have most likely produced a sharper result as well. Dress segment is out of focus.

#2 Needs a better lighting solution to reduce distracting shadows. Hat shadow on hair.

Also a sarcastic joke about making skin look like plastic with film.

I think you did a good job with the composition of both, and I know you were just trying out direct light for #2.
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>>4457295
>>4457297
based dollfags
>>4457329
>muh technical
they are interesting and unusual subject for photography, pleasing colors and not another pile of garbage with dog hairs in the scans
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>>4457352
Huge cope lel
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>>4457295
>>4457297
Gross subject and makes me think less of you but I have to chime in with the others, much better than the serial killeresque staged trash snapshots of last thread
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>>4457343
Thank you for your feedback
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>>4457363
>gross
nigga you are on an anime imageboard
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It's such a pain in my ass to do photography while roaming around in the countryside. I've driven 350 km and have just snapped two shots. There's no shoulders to park my car, so I'm mostly limited to semi public roads. And then if you walk too close to some farm you're sure an old fart is coming out to "greet" you when you return to the car.
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Got some photos back already. Not a fan of most of em but here are a few. I’ll make a thread when I get the other 50 photos back
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Eggs and bottle study #1

Not perfect, but I got pretty close. I may want to have the entire foreground in focus, and see how it looks without the "petal" mid left. I like the symmetry it produces with the bottle, but maybe without it will look cleaner without. Really fun picture to set up.

This weird sediment got all up in my shit somehow, which is why the negative is so dirty. I may be able to wash the film to clear it, but whatever. I just wanted to see the scan for now.

Why are there so many "picky eaters" on /p/? I dont like dolls, but I have no problem putting that aside to appreciate a nicely composed picture. It's like some of you hate photography.
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Pre-inca temple
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Nostril, the richest guy in the village. Sells everything from gasoline to paper tape (also had a money lending business)
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It’s a secret but he buries his money in his garden
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Ah and he’s also a moto-taxi rider
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Peruvian national day
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I don’t know who she is but she really wanted to have her photo taken
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My friend victoracho who got shot at least twice in his life and use to smoke weed mixed with cocain paste in his youth.
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i like peruanon
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>>4457382
Keep posting peruanon, these are great! You breathe some life into this god forsaken board!
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>>4457396
>>4457404
Thanks, will get some more rolls back next week and the vision3 ones in about 3 weeks.
Also having spent time on /sp/ makes me read peruanon as el peruAno kek
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Some mystery film (SHD200??) that I just throw in rodinal for one hour lmao.
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>>4457420
Scratches easily or was my camera, not sure.
And man, I am still not sure how I am supposed to hold a Moskva 5.
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>>4457367
Yeah anime is not fucking DOLLS
Hate people like you that think just because this place likes anime any old schizo tier fetish can fly
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>>4457422
behold, a thread full of photographers better than you and also, dolls.
>>>/jp/49753860
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>>4457218
>this was actually 1 stop under-exposed,

>>4457219
>picrel I took immediately afterward, "properly" exposed

You are a retard, and are conflating metering and exposure. The first image is obviously correct and the second is BTFO. The first one is metered for the scene and the second is metered for the ground.
The beauty of neg film is that of course it's easy to fix a lot without it looking like shit, but you will end up with naturally better looking photos if you use the film's contrast curve rather than abitrarily wrestling your own onto it in post.
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>>4457422
>anime is not fucking DOLLS
this.
Imagine grown up men collecting dolls
I will hang myself
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>>4457420
>>4457421
>mystery film
>old slavshit camera
pure SOVL
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>>4457423
>a thread full of photographers better than you
i thought you were just trolling but holly shit, they put /rpt/ to shame. what the fuck. is this one of those "furries are all secretly rich engineers" type things?
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>>4457363
Trying to bully a dollfag is one of the more pathetic things you can do on the Internet. Somehwere between playing gacha games and working as a 4chan janitor.
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>>4457438
Is it really that impressive? It's basically all just really soft light on non reflective faces.
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>>4457441
have you seen what gets posted to this board?
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>>4457422
Please accept this picture of a generic european statue as compensation for upsetting you with my hobbies. There's extra dust, just the way you like it.
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>>4457443
I see my own egg type studio work and I am not impressed with theirs. It's mostly clean and well lit, but also very simple lighting. I would say that their composition is generally pretty strong, but more creative lighting and better lighting would make it more enjoyable to look at as a photography enthusiast. I recognize the challenge of precise lighting with small objects, but still. They have unlimited time to get it right.
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>>4457454
>be more creative
>be better
if you think this is helpful, you are delusional
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>>4457456
ironic right?
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>>4457456
Huh? Im just stating my opinion on the general quality of the work compared to mine. Do you think that single point soft light for portraiture is impressive?
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>>4457456
To my studio work I mean. It's a fair assessment if I hold them to the same standard people hold me to here.
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>>4457438
desu, hobby boards in this place are always worse than the other boards at their own hobby lmao
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>>4457423
>>4457438
Why are you impressed with these pics? Theyre just standard pics, nothing special
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>>4457471
They're normies. Similar to how a normie would go WOAH the first time they see a high MP picture.
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>>4457471
>it's not gritty photos of garbage and building corners and the backs of people's heads it can't be good.
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>Doubling down on the most basic bitch studio lighting possible being impressive

The ego on that lad whew
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>>4457474
>jizzing himself over anime dolls
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>>4457476
Its all trash of one kind or another...
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>>4457473
>>4457476
its just refreshing seeing decent composition and not just some garbage from a farm
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>>4457486
Why are you so freakishly obsessed with my photography?

This >>4457372 is not a bad photograph by any means... and is quite different from any photos posted on all of /p/.
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HOT DAMN this looks so freaking good printed. Almost like its a painting. Print is not perfect, but you get the idea. Tommorow I make a perfect one and refine contrast. Stay tuned.
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>>4457426
>conflating metering and exposure
dumbass that's why I put "properly" in quotes
I don't remember if I incident or spot metered that, but those were both one meter reading, I just accidentally nudged the aperture ring on one
what I do remember is it was cold, the light was fading, I was having trouble getting the camera to function, and I was getting pretty pissed off
anyways happy accident, because I learned I need to pay more attention to what I meter for, like I said
>>4457427
imaging grown men not only collecting dolls, but putting them in cute poses and taking photos
>>4457454
hey I do try more interesting lighting sometimes
>They have unlimited time to get it right.
ironically less time, because you can't just direct the model to re-pose themselves, you have to do it
although odd you would say this as someone who does a lot of still life
maybe it's because doll photos are still life with human-like subjects so tweaking composition (poses) to be more natural is more important?
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>>4457522
Nice one

I tried an orange filter yesterday for the first time. And stand development. Should not try two new things at once, big mistake. Negatives were really thin and now I dont know if they were underexposed because of the filter or underdeveloped because stand
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>>4457543
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>>4457545
Eggspan, my entry for the prestigious competition
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>>4457546
Actually had rwo shots left on the roll when I got home, here is the other one, egg salad
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>>4457543
unless you fucked up stand development (which is kinda hard) it's probably the filter
looking at Wikipedia an orange filter needs about 1 2⁄3 stops more light
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Im really not into the whole doll photography thing and don’t think his photos are anything crazy, but he posts photos so that’s all that counts.
Simple as
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>>4457552
Yep, I guess I did 1 stop that would explain it
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>>4457516
>>4457522
>>4457543
>>4457545
>>4457546
it's true
/fgt/ does take better photos than /rpt/
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>>4457555
Film photographers need to think
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>"Film photographers need to think"
>a bench
>an egg
>a house sparrow
the memes write themselves. protip: grainydays is comedy channel not an example

only actual good photos itt
>>4457140
>>4457377
>>4457379
through
>>4457382
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>>4457592
I too just spent 7 days on the road to take pictures of dilapidated buildings on slide film, albeit only in 35 mm.
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>>4457592
I agree with you that my photos are nothing special, I think that guy maybe didnt scroll through the whole thread. Though I appreciate his compliment.

The OP pic you quoted is just terribly missed focus I have to disagree with you there
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>>4457547
>>4457546
Both very nice. Maybe even eggcellent.
The white border is a nice touch as well.

Did you have fun larping as an eggtographer?

>>4457516
I meant how you could leave a couple dolls and your lights set up as a scene overnight and come back to it if you're taking pics in your house/studio. If you really want to perfect it you could try over many days. I'll sometimes leave lights + still life + view camera setup for a couple days in my studio just in case.

I would imagine that most dollfriends are in it for the dolls and the poses more than creating beautiful lighting.
I'm in it for the eggs in a big way, but I am more in it for the photography.
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>>4457598
>it’s not technical perfection, it cannot be good chuddie
Curious that you defend your own 8x10 snapshits so fervently when the same criticisms are levied at you
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Well since we are talking about good and bad photos, here are some bad ones but taken in a fun situation.
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>>4457604
I was going through this sugarcane field and these huge (probably 10m high) machines were cutting the canes
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This guy, Santos, popped his head out of the drivers cabin and asked me if I wanted to climb up
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Of course I immediately went up there. He told me I could sit in the drivers seat and explained all this John Deere mechanisms to me (I don’t really speak Spanish so I just nodded politely)
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So yeah, bad photos but funny situation
Also Nostril thought I was a Pishtaco (look it up on Wikipedia) and was piss scared of me kek
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>>4457554
If you have a lightmeter you can place your filter over the light meter and see how many stops it reduces your eggsposure by.
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Ok sorry for spamming here a last one that I can’t decide if I like or not.
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>>4457610
Or is it that it needs cropping that bothers me?
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>>4457611
Pole above left guys head. Maybe closer with less road more tree. Lower PoV may have also added to the photo
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>>4457610
Keep posting. You're better than everyone here.

Your photos do need more vibrance and brightness tho
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>>4457617
Yea I was thinking that there was too much ground but that I liked the tree above them.
>>4457618
Thanks anon. Was my first time shooting fuji 400H, the red came out pretty bright.
Here’s the original photo
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>>4457618
It's a good idea for a photo, but snapshit levels of composition. All have boring skies/flat lighting. Definitely impressive if youre a normie. Better than simple tourist photos, but not leagues above it. Theyre good, but nothing to cum over.
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>>4457602
Did you reply to the wrong post? I dont get it
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>>4457600
Yes, I did have fun, its a nice geometric shape and the matte surface catches the light nicely
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>>4457640
Nice! Eggs are like little orbs of potential.
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>>4457610
you fucked up the exposure by at least a stop
>>4457625
right
if you don’t like the red hue saturation or value, try using a color equaliser to reduce local saturation or value in particular hues without affecting global value or saturation
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my m6 is in the shop and will be there for a long time probably.
in the meantime should i get a Nikon F100 + 35mm f2/D or a Leitz Minolta CL
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don't do this at home kids
censored so as not to spoil the egg photo
>>4457600
>set up as a scene overnight and come back to it
hm, true
>>4457608
>It is believed to have originated in Spanish conquistadors' practice of using Indigenous Peruvians' corpse fat as treatment for wounds and illnesses.
what the fuck is wrong with the spanish
>>4457722
iktf, my z3 is also in the shop for weeks wait you're talking about a camera not a car
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>>4457758
If you read further it says the pichtaco wants to suck the fat out of peoples asses and eat their teeth lmao
>>4457704
Ty for the advice
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>>4457758
Holy moly. Eggcited!

Cool setup! I have something similar for my rollei 6008. :D
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>>4457763
I bought the bellows because I needed closer focus for the doll photos, but I fucked up because extension starts at 50mm so I can't focus far enough lmao
what I really needed was the extension tubes, and probably just the smaller of the two (18mm) for my purposes
and for some reason I still haven't bought one…
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>>4457764
That exact thing happened to me also. Lmao.
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I'm haven't been on this website for a long time and didn't realize until now this thread existed.

Here's something I shot on 250D and self-scanned.

Anyway, how's everyone doing?
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>>4457776
Pretty picture! I am doing great. About to run some amidol + azo contact prints tonight. Will you be entering in the great egg photo battle of 2025?
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>>4457778
Tell me, how much anger release and emotional satisfaction did release with this comment?
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>>4457781
Cringe post weirdo
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>>4457785
Would you share what exactly about this comment makes you think it's cringe and originated from a 'weirdo'?
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>>4457786
Your assumptions are so remarkably incorrect it made me cringe and think you are weird for even thinking those things. Hope that makes sense!

You going to post some photos?
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>>4457787
I merely asked about your own words. Are you experiencing some emotional distress right now? I might be able to help.

Anyway, here's my thread with a bunch of photos:
>>4452594
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>>4457800
Buy an ad.
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>>4457803
I make much more money than any 4chan ad could ever give me.
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>>4457814
You sound kind of insecure, bud. Did it feel good to release that anger and emotional satisfaction?
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>>4457817
If you need a more safe space I can share you an email.

Please tell me, how does asking back my own questions make you feel regarding the power hierarchy on this conversation?

Do you feel more secure and assertive?
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got my vacation slides back from the lab and scanned them in, there is something really magical about positive film. now I wish I'd brought more than just one roll of E100. most of the memefilms I brought to shoot in the desert turned out meh and really didn't scan well, though some of that might be on me messing up exposure (or the 106 degree heat having an impact on the emulsion).
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>>4457824
This looks great. I love the grain. I haven't shoot E100D (respooled from cine) yet but I do have a couple roll in my fridge waiting for the moment.

I think I'll justt try to forge they're slides and just go on with my usual normal metering and shoot process and see and comes out of it.

Thanks for sharing!
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>>4457824
man i really should try slide film one of these days. my problem is i have nothing to shoot with it, would feel like an expensive waste. maybe when i go visit family for christmas.
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>>4457829
So if I you look at my photos you could maybe believe I live in some sort of paradise where lighting is always great and there are always something pretty to shoot in good lightning.

While part of that might be true, I still often find myself out of things to photograph and wish I lived in some big city like NYC or Miami.

At the end it's all bullshit. There's stuff to photograph everywhere, no matter where you're from. Just gotta dial up the creative dial and roll with the tides. Believe it or not, I also feel frustraed at the amount of good scenes/lighting I have available, because I've already shot it before.

The true challenge comes from making ordinary pictures stand out. I can't say I'm there yet but I'm trying and I think it's a good exercise to practice.

Best of luck!
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Amidol + Azo paper really is something.

These prints are so fine it feels like you're actually staring into their eyes. Its sort of weird/uncanny in a way.
I have a couple human female portraits I took and printed that are just stunning to look at.

>>4457829
You can always learn studio work and take incredible portraits of your friends/family. It's quite fun.
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>>4457834
Voluntary & alive or? You dont need to reply if the reply is incriminating, ill just deduce
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>>4457835
Produce any story you like in that pea brain of yours to cope, lil bro. We all know you do that anyways and there is no stopping you. Lmao.
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>>4457839
Understood ;)
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I think I may like this one even more than the ziatype. I have the little dust removal kit for prints so I can clean this up pretty easily.

It felt so great to work with normal printing instead of alt processes. Exposure time of seconds instead of 20-45 minutes is really nice.
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>>4457834
Just FYI, I love your photos. I genuinely have nothing to add apart from compliments on what I hopefully should ever achieve with my B&W.

Especially the first two, would you share what's your process?

They're absolutely amazing.
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>>4457545
after collapsing from the weight of all the gear he's been hauling around, anon snaps a picture of his favorite resting spot he failed to reach
cool shot, digging it
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>>4457876
You should crush the blacks a bit, but nice.
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>>4457894
>You should crush the blacks
not the anon you were replying to but I agree
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>>4457844
They're all 8x10 film + studio lighting.
Dog picture was the culmination of a lot of trial and error using digital to learn strobe work and the other one is just me having fun/practicing. It used a single continuous light.
My idea was to use sheep's wool as a background and then I just built up a scene that I think looks cool and light it up nicely. Great practice and a lot of fun.

I use staining pyro developer like 510-pyro or pyrocat HD for the film and the prints are made with special graded paper designed specifically for contact printing, silver chloride paper, and a special developer, amidol, that is particularly well suited for making contact prints.

Thanks.
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>>4457842
>>4457839
Dpreview test shots/10
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>>4457937
Thanks for sharing your opinion. I like them both and had a lot of fun making them.
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>>4457763
bad news
just developed the roll and there is no egg
I forgot to compensate for the bellows and under-exposed by two stops
though I would at least be able to push in post but guess it slid under the sensitivity threshold of the film
inb4 >latitude I was already under-exposing for a double exposure, second exposure showed up fine even though I tried to under-expose that to compensate for the first
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>>4457942
Nooooooo! A double eggsposure eggtograph sounds like it would have been awesome too. Now is your sign to get a medium format camera with ttl metering lol.

Was your pic going to include dolls and eggs?
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>>4457942
I usually use Reciprocity Timer application for close ups and longer exposures. It calculate time for the film reciprocity and bellow extension
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Left is amidol, right is 510 pyro. Pretty interesting to see the tone produced by the pyro. It adds that same stain to film as well. Pretty nice imo!

Very hard to see through a phone pic, but the amidol produces a noticeably blacker black than the pyro. That increased dmax is what amidol is all about. Even with a shorter exposure the tones are richer on the amidol print.

>>4457946
Art of foto is another cool free app that has bellows and reciprocity calculators along with some other cool things.
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Anyone knows what causes yellow very sticky stains on the emulsion side of C41-processed film?
I washed the film very thoroughly and agitated every 30 seconds.
Are my chemicals going bad or something?
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>>4457960
BX (bleach/fix) longer (6 min)
wash in stabilizer in separate container
(never use stab in developing container or drum)
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Underexposed? Bad film? Damaged lens?
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>>4457986
Looks underexposed to me
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Just found out you can tone prints with uranium and in the late 1800s a commercially available uranium paper was made. Uranotypes.. spooky.
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>>4458197
make sure to give the photo of your late wife printed on uranium paper a kiss every day
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I used chatgpt to formulate an experimental pyrocatechin based film developer. I'm going to try it out. Its only a few additional cheap chems on top of the stuff for pyrocat MC and 510 pyro that I already ordered.

Interested to see if it will actually work.

>>4458198
Ill try my very best. Thank you.
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>>4457944
>Was your pic going to include dolls and eggs?
nah, egg + same egg fried
I had a few shots of 35mm portra left so I tried again
chems are warming right now but it won't be devved+dried+scanned until later tonight (EST)
also included a doll+egg photo since you mentioned it
>>4457946
Bronica published autisticly detailed compensation tables with the bellows, one for each lens
this isn't the first time I've used the bellows, calculating the compensation isn't hard, I simply forgot to add it in before taking the shot
so the app wouldn't have helped here
>>4457980
>(never use stab in developing container or drum)
literally never heard this before
I've never had a problem
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>>4458210
>I used chatgpt to do [x]
what is this gonna be called? like googling things, it’s gonna be a daily activity of the masses before you can breathe in and yell at the top of your lungs “haven’t you heard of skynet?”
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>>4458218
Sounds pretty cool! Only 3 submissions so far, so you can have some extra time to submit if you want. No worries.

>>4458223
Idk it's interesting and sort of just a faster search engine in a lot of ways. Search engines almost all freaking suck so bad now, so I'd rather just ask the question I want the answer to instead of wading through 20 tons of bullshit.
I had it searching through patents to give me info on obscure color printing methods the other day.
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>>4457140
test
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TIL self developing 120 is ez mode
holy shit 35mm is aids to handle in the dark
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>>4458233
>holy shit 35mm is aids to handle in the dark
for me that's mostly down to the paterson reels being absolute trash, never had much trouble with anything else
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>>4458234
yeah the reel was part of it, swapped to a different one and it loaded fine
the other part that makes 35 a pain though is how it just springs off the spindle
the paper needing to light seal against the spindle ends makes 120 stay in place until you unroll part of it
anyways I figured out a method, the next roll shouldn't be nearly as bad
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Check out harvey's 777 developer. Very cool, weird, and sounds like it could make awesome looking negatives.

>>4458233
Just wait until you get to single sheet 8x10 development. You just put the sheet in and put the lid on.
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>>4458261
Get a film picker, then it stays in the can until you wind it onto the spool. I hold the can in my mouth while I wind it onto the reel. Plus you can cut a nice rounded end in the light which helps it go on easier. And you can save the can for bulk rolling.
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>>4458210
ChatGPT doesn't know anything and trusting it to give you a competent chemical mix is like trusting a number generator to give you the winning lottery numbers. I hope I'm wrong (or at least that you didn't waste too much money) but I wouldn't hold my breath
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>>4458275
It's just like 20 bucks of additional chems I can use for other photo stuff lmao. Im already ordering shit to make like 5 years worth of 510 pyro and pyrocat MC.
It wanted me to use potassium iodide, but you need to fill out a DEA form to get it, so I skipped. Apparently it doesn't make a significant difference.

All the numbers check out quite well when referenced against recipes online, actually. I think your understanding of ai is a little too simplistic at this point, but I get where you're coming from.
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>>4458281
>think your understanding of ai is a little too simplistic
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>>4458274
yeah this is my first roll of 35 (deved, first roll shot in idk 25 years), this one experience has sold me on film pickers
pic unrelated
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>>4458293
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>>4458290
Cope harder, boomer.
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>>4458294
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>>4458296
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How do you all store your 35mm negatives and do you prefer cutting them or not?
I only have 10 or so rolls now but more on the way and considering long term options.
All of mine are uncut (giwtwm). Some are in sleeves and loosely rolled. A few are just rolled up and in canisters which I'm assuming will make them hard to try and rescan in the future because of curling up.
Do you just keep them in a box with some desiccant packs, and are there any sleeve materials to avoid for long term storage?
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>>4458298
Slap them all in sleeves. The 5 pic per row ones are better for making contact sheets if you ever wanted to be based about using film. They actually fit on an 8x10 sheet of paper.
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>>4458297
okay here is the failed egg shot (>>4457942)
you can just baaaarely make out the shape of the macro egg inside the border of the pan
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>>4458300
I am interested in eventually developing and trying to print at least b&w after recently buying my first print from a store. That will be a while due to lack of space currently unfortunately.
I do want to start dslr scanning for now and didn't know if it would be easier to leave the rolls uncut. The sleeves you recommended do seem a lot more convenient for storage.
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>>4458298
I have some 6x6 sleeve sheets that I keep in a flat sealed binder, since you get more than 36 shots to a roll sometimes it can be a bit of a hassle but nothing major. I
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>>4458302
I really like the idea! Unfortunate about the exposure! Not totally in love with the lighting, but I don't hate it either. Probably looks better if the second exposure came out. Thanks for participating!

>>4458304
Ilford sells 4x4 tents that I do all my darkroom stuff in. 200 bucks on sale. Works really well, and having a room to deal with film loading and all that stuff is really wonderful.

You could probably get away with 11x14 prints with the right lens/enlarger in there, although it would be very cramped.
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>>4458302
>>4458324
zero-effort version on portra 160
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>>4458344
egg+doll
hate rate masturbate etc.
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>>4458233
i find it the other way around,
what i do with 35, is keep in in the can and start spooling it in daylight, then put it in the bag and cut it at the end after i unroll it.

120 for me takes me ages to get it on in the bag
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>>4458345
I kneel. Amazing work. She loves eggs almost as much as I do.

I didn't realize the dolls were so big.
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>>4458218
>Bronica published autisticly detailed compensation tables with the bellows
you also need to include film reciprocity !
>literally never heard this before
it's measure to prevent cross contamination
if your stab contain formaldehyde it accumulate on film holders and it's very hard or impossible to clean
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>>4458298
Cut into strips of 6 then into PrintFile sheets labeled with the (developing) date, camera, developer, location and event, then into a separate folder for each year. Same for 120 just different holder sheets. Makes it easy to find the right strip in the darkroom and the dates help finding the roll corresponding to a scan.
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When will we know the egg winner?
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>>4458345
I want to fertilize her egg if you catch my drift
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>>4458404
Should I ask the tripfriends to vote like I planned initially? I need to scan my print first, which I'm going to do in like 20 minutes.

My favorite is doll + egg.
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Egg photo submissions:

1. >>4458344
2. >>4458345
3. >>4457547
4. >>4457546
5. >>4458497
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Okay the request has been made. Everyone is welcome to vote.
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>>4458294
oooooooh that highlight glow, I love film so fucking much hngggggggg
>>4458296
>>4458297
holy shit that smooth gradation, all that detail in the sky while everything else is also perfectly exposed, I will cream my pants
Did you use a yellow filter?

Posting photo shot on Wolfen nc500 last Friday so I am not a disgusting nophoto.
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I just found out that nikor made a 2835mm process lens back in the 70s. World's largest. Wow.
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just bee yourself
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>>4458345
>>4458350
>>4458499
I corrected the white balance of the scan
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>>4458369
>you also need to include film reciprocity !
why? the exposure was still well under a second
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>>4458510
full disclosure I played with the contrast a bit on that first one, but it's pretty close to the original
I've found I have to get creative to get anything pleasing out of d3200 since the base is so dense, but I still quite enjoy the film
glad you like the other two, I don't think they're anything particularly amazing, just a pleasant little scene
might go re-shoot in color at some point
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>>4458563
I like this composition
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it appears the 35mm film holder for my scanner isn't holding the film flat enough
going to have to play with it a bit to figure out what's up, might just be I fucked up the edges on this roll enough trying to get it onto the spiral, but you can see it throughout the roll (grain blurred so not the lens)
idk or one of the two is a few microns out of spec
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funny, all the decent shots off this roll (besides Elle+egg) were taken at a single location across multiple days
I took photos other places but they're eh
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another flour
they smelled like C41 fixer
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>>4458350
>I didn't realize the dolls were so big.
forgot to say
yeah, a lot of people have that reaction
the one in that pic is 19.5"
LF anon's dolls are more in the 22-24" range
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This is a trichrome done with delta 100 developed in 1:3 Xtol; really happy with how it came out.
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And the same shot without any filter, also delta 100 in 1:3 XTol
Looking forward to doing a print of this; the grain is so fine
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>>4458636
Wrong file
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>>4458638
Are you going to utilize your trichromes for any unfathomably based color printing process? If you did three color carbon printing you would be the king of /p/
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>>4458638
dunno but these tri chromes never really looks good in term of colors.
b/w version looks far better
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>try to advance to next frame
>crrrrrrrr
>WTF!?
>try again
>advances to frame 25
>*click*
>try to advance to next frame
>"no way, is my camera broken!??!?!?!?!"
>rewind film, crying
>fire a couple shots with empty camera
>advancing works
>look at film packaging
>24 exposures
Why do they even sell these!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
at least I didn't rip the film or something
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>>4458638
BASED
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B&W film contain silver so how magnets affect the picture?
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>>4458794
Not at all.
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>>4458769
36 is too many, you won't finish the roll. 12 is not enough, you finish the roll and miss some good shots while you're reloading. 18-24 is the ideal number of frames, you finish the roll by evening and can develop them at night.
>>4458638
honestly one of the best trichromes I've seen, usually the colors are all fucked up but this looks natural
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Fuck you reciprocity.
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New egg picture just dropped. 18 min exposure at f64. Txp320 has terrible reciprocity.

These dried palm tree leaf chunks have really beautiful texture on them. I will be taking some more pics of them.
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>>4458932
How did you get your egg to hold still for so long?
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Behind the scenes for all to enjoy. I got these c stands with extension arms recently and they have been incredibly useful for all of my studio work. Neewer brand. 120ish bucks each and suprisingly decent/sturdy quality. Would recommend.

First time using a cloth and I don't like the weird texture it gave the background. Next time I will try out some black/gray paper instead.

>>4458934
Lullaby song, sedatives, and some sticky tack if neither of those work.
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>>4457140 (OP)
I hope somebody here can help.
>>>/wsr/1537035
Thanks in advance.
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>>4459000
desu they are probable long gone. The ones that lasted the longest were the optics ones (Zeiss for example) but nowadays they are just shell companies.
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>>4459004
I at least want to know how they ended. I mean there is literately nothing on the internet about them. Hard to believe that a company can just vanish like that. They even cooperated with kaiser, and with easy it is to find their products for sale today i don't think that it was a small fish. Those would at least get bought out and still get a wikipedia page.
>nowadays they are just shell companies.
I don't see any company with that name doing anything related to this. Its not even slapped on random products to boost their attractiveness like with what Afga is known for today.
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>>4459014
Take a picture of it and ask chatgpt.
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>>4459015
I did but there is no result. It even used its own web search feature but could not tell me anything i don't already know
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>>4459014
Apparently they were making stuff until around 1991-2000, but there is no mention of why or when they actually closed.

Hauck gmbh elektromechanik and elektronik was the full company name.
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>>4459016
Oh nice. Your next step should be asking on a german film photography forum lol.
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>>4459018
Where did you find this information? I don't immediately see how that name is related to the one that made these timers. I just found hauckgmbh.de which matches the "Hauck GmbH" name exactly but besides the company age nothing suggests that they are related. There are a couple of companies using a combination of "Hauck" and "(elektro)Technik" actually. One also did hydraulics.

>>4459020
Yeah that might just be one of the few options left. Even giving the patent numbers and the name of their inventor and just everything i posted on wsr lead to nothing.

Also how many fucking Hauck's have companies doing electrical work with almost the same names wtf.
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>>4459021
Here’s the exact maker of your MT 60:

Company: HAUCK GmbH – Elektromechanik und Elektronik (not the baby-gear Hauck).

What they made: Darkroom timers/exposure controllers (“Belichtungs-/Zeitschaltuhren”) and related electronics. Known lines include MT 60, ATU 160/260, TU-20, MSA-100/MSA-2, and minibell.

Where/when: Kapellenstraße 6, 8016 Feldkirchen bei München, West Germany (old postal code “8016” = Feldkirchen/Munich). This address and company name appear on their 1991 product literature.

Branding you’ll see: Some units were co-branded “Kaiser–Hauck” for distribution alongside Kaiser Fototechnik gear.

Status today: The darkroom-electronics Hauck appears to be defunct; only used gear and manuals circulate. (Collectors note the firm no longer exists.)


So your timer was built by HAUCK GmbH (Elektromechanik & Elektronik) of Feldkirchen/Munich, a specialist in darkroom timers—not the nursery-products Hauck.
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>>4459024
Nothing besides the date 1991 and apparently product literature existing is new info. Me making the AI tell me about the company did not yield anything at all. Unless chatgpt leads you to something verifiable its sadly useless.

I also scoured google maps for all mentions of Hauck. Munich has a interestingly named road but given how often Hauck pops up its probably just a red herring.
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>>4459031
Right manuals exist. But i think that "Elektromechanik und Elektronik" is just a sort of title or addon and not actually part of the name. Or at least i have never seen anything besides "& Co. KG" come after "GmbH".
Its "Kaiser Fototechnik GmbH & Co. KG" and not "Kaiser GmbH & Co. KG Fototechnik". Its the same as all LLCs i have seen also officially ending in "LLC". What would be reason to write down the rough address instead of the full company name on the product? If it were actually part of the name they would have to. The patents would refer to it with "Elektromechanik und Elektronik" also otherwise.

Their last patent was in 1992 however which matches up with the time window you gave although a billion photography companies went under in that time. I'll search for more info tomorrow. Maybe a new perspective will help.
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>>4459037
Huh. True. Too deep for me. Maybe you should try asking jeeves...
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>>4459042
or no the address on the timer also has a dot between it and GmbH and it also comes after GmbH. But why is the name in the patents then either just "Hauck GmbH" sometimes and features the address before GmbH also unlike what's on the timer.

This is also too deep for me. I guess this is why lawyers are expensive.
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Hi, /p/
I've been away from /fgt/ for a couple months, made a post or two in the last thread
Made progress in the darkroom by using the easel instead of putting a glass on top of the paper (which was making the photos soft)
>picrel photo of my father and his old friend from highschool
Made two prints of each photo: one of each for my dad, the other two for his friend
Anyway, I'll post some photos from the past few months and save some for the next days as well so as not to flood the thread with 20 photos
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>>4459140
a couple shots from my time away from the board
had too much work to do, I'll go out and shoot some more large format as soon as possible
And now I'm finally being able to print some stuff as well, which is cool
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>>4459143
I've been shooting lots of portraits as well, but they're more personal so I won't be posting them for now
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>>4459145
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>>4459147
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>>4459148
that's it for today, will post more in the coming days
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>>4458641
I looked into this after you suggested it. I knew nothing about the physical processes, but it looks like the most accessible option would be a gum arabic tricolor print. Carbro is also an option, but would require more research as it seems like it's more or less a dead process with very few modern practitioners. The classic experience of tracking down boomer forum posts from 2008 with dead links everywhere and 'DM me and I'll tell you how to do it' replies.
But no, I don't have any plans right now for trying this with either process.

>>4458665
>>4458902
idk these colors are a bit washed out but overall not bad in terms of accuracy. Comparable or better than my experience with color negative films. Considering the digital version is >>>/jp/49847084
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i got weird stretch mark-looking aberrations on this one bw scan and none others from the roll. anyone got tips on what happened or how to prevent?

>>4458932
looks great
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Still waiting to get my hands on the last bit of my home-scanning setup. Hopefully I'll have everything by the end of this week.
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a cute and funny lens
>how dollfags take a picture of something they want to show you
can't wait to load up some 800T and go take carnival pics this weekend
yes I go outside sometimes
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>>4459340
come on man, you cant be so fucking based all the time
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through shot, I really like fast 85s
(no that's not fungus in the center, I think it's dust in the viewfinder)
>>4459341
clearly the word has lost all meaning then
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>>4459347
Dollanon confirmed freebase cocaine smoker
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>have autism
>all my cameras HAVE to be black
>black ones almost always go for way more than ugly silver ones
>>4459340
>>4459347
I bet that would look nice in black.
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>>4459352
oh no anon... you are not supposed to say that you like the BBC like that! (Big Black Camera)
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I am just going to shoot foma now, I realize that I don't need more.
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>>4459403
>I realize that I don't need more.
I'm happy for you
freed from the restraints of consumerism, seeing film as what it is: just a medium through which your image is materialized
what matters is the photo itself
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>>4459340
do you have a blog man? where do you post these
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>>4459411
basically just over on /jp/, and here
I have an Instagram but haven't updated it in almost a year
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>>4458560
is the photo with the focus on the back on purpose?
>>4458618
>>4458619
these would be good in a series but this one
>>4458620
doesn't fit that
got others like that?
>>4459145
ah you're that BR dude
went to ES?
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>>4459147
I like this, very cool, simple composition but cute light from above, show the cut a bit more next time
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>>4459419
>these would be good in a series but this one doesn't fit that
yeah they were taken on different days, different weather
>got others like that?
maybe? I have a roll of Gold I shot before that I plan to develop this weekend along with >>4459340
I'll post a few more from this roll that I thought were okay at best
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>>4459424
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>>4459425
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>>4459426
guestimated the exposure time on this as 20s, turned out basically perfect
but it was basically just a test, not particularly interesting
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>>4459405
kind of funny testing so many stocks and just realizing that Foma was nice all along lol. But yeah, now less time agonizing and just more taking photos.
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>>4459405
Damn that grain is NASTY
I don't get why people get excited for hp5
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>>4459461
Maybe rodinal was used?
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>>4459461
>>4459466
filename
it's a crop of 35, what do you expect
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My homemade pyrocat MC works! I just finished developing a test sheet. Good thing because I made enough to make 75 liters of working strength developer, or enough to develop 150 sheets of 8x10 film lol. Cost was around 30 dollars.

Much less stain than 510 pyro, which may be a good thing for my alt process stuff...

>>4459467
But what developer is it?
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Here is a little unsharpened section of the scan so you can see the grain pyrocat mc gives you. It's foma100, so innately shit, but still fine grained.
This crop is around 1/3rd the area of a 35mm negative.
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I want to do point and shoot Terry Richardson 28mm sleaze... should I get a Nikon N80 or a F100 + a tiny manual flash

Everyone online says get the F100, but its heavier and bigger than the N80 and the N80 has a builtin flash with auto metering
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>>4459526
any camera that you already have that fits the 28mm plus a thrystor flash.

wala
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>>4459419
>ah you're that BR dude
Yes! Haven't been to Espírito Santo (ES) though, unfortunately
That photo you quoted is pure suburban brazilian culture, these trucks filled with brooms, homemade fabric softeners and whatnot that go around selling their own formulas
they remind me of my grandma, the smell of her washed clothes
I went to visit her yesterday, and she was fragrant as ever

>>4459461
yeah, it came out grainier than what I'd like it to be, but as >>4459466 guessed it was developed in Rodinal, and it's a crop of a 35mm so the grains are more noticeable
HP5 developed in D76 is simply superb

>>4459421
>show the cut a bit more next time
I'll cut my finger again tomorrow and try again lol
fun fact: I cut it open while cleaning the silverware in this same barbecue >>4459140
I used my Micro-Nikkor 55mm that was stuck wide open at f/2.8
it has been properly serviced already
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>>4459529
How much of a crop would you say it is?
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>>4459529
>That photo you quoted is pure suburban brazilian culture
I thought the paintings on the side and back were typical from Espirito Santo
t did Vitoria - Salvador by car
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Chatgpt low contrast amidol developer.

It worked exactly as it said it would. Suggested dev times were pretty close. Cool.

Foma 100
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This may be one of the more retarded questions asked here, but i like picture taking and precious metal recovery
If i were to develop b&w at home how much silver is actually washed off the roll during development? And will the bulk of the waste silver be in the drained off developer?

I'm about the buy the stuff to try and develop my first rolls. I was planning on keeping the fluid and letting the majority of the liquid evaporate outside, then try to extract the silver from the remaining sludge after enough rolls. Going by the price of film it probably isn't much silver and will take a while lol
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>>4459644
Silver is collected in the fixer and it is fairly easy to recover. You need to go through a lot of film and paper to get anything appreciable. If you save your spent fixer from a few years of developing you could get a little ingot I bet.
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>>4459645
>in the fixer
Thank you. I'll have to get shooting.
Only tried 2 b&w rolls so far but it i do enjoy it.
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>>4459647
Very nice and a cute picture too!

The trick is to build a community darkroom. You charge money to use it and the fools are basically giving you free silver on top of that!
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>>4459644
There's a doc from Kodak somewhere about how much silver is in film. It varies a lot from film to film, but I think it was about 4 grams per 100ft or something like that. Or maybe it was 1000ft I don't remember. 100ft is about 18 rolls. More from printing because it's bigger.

The big takeaway for me was that there is not very much in there so when they raise the prices due to "the rising price of silver" they're just bullshitting.
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>>4459652
>The big takeaway for me was that there is not very much in there
Didn't think so but i can't just pitch it in the sink
Enough rolls will at least make up the angels share when i do another refine
>>4459650
Thanks and that would be a fun idea, but I'm already having to start with a dark bag and tank due to lack of space
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>>4459653
Don't put fixer down the sink it is bad for everything
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>>4459655
That was more metaphoric, I'll properly dispose of any chemicals except what is kept for a metal recovery attempt
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bros i love film..

making a darkroom right now.
Looking for a good enlarger but people want stupid prices for dusty maybe working enlargers their grand-pappy had in a locker for 40 years
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>>4459683
What formats do you want and do you have size limitations?
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>>4459687
35mm and 120 are what i shoot mainly
and no size limitations really, i will make it work
the beseler 23c seems to be a good option but people want stupid money for it it seems
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>>4459692
If you were okay with only 35mm there are very inexpensive enlargers. Even on ebay you can find them for less than 100 doll hairs. Beseler does make a nice enlarger tho. I have a motorized 45vxl that I really need to set up after I build it a room.
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>>4459707
I started to shoot 120 recently and at this point I dont think i could omit the ability to enlarge both 35mm and 120, so ive got myself into a pickle it seems.
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>>4459716
Might as well get a 45mxt at that point and save yourself needing a second enlarger for when you become based and start shooting 4x5. They even have 8x10 conversion kits for them.
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>>4459717
I hate that ive been looking at 4x5 as well.
My friend started to shoot 4x5 and its only a matter of time until i do too.
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From a 35 year old mystery roll. Very thin negs due to age probably, but the p&s had ruined several images by light leaks (or maybe the kids opening up the camera, lol) and double exposures.
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I opened the box of Santacolor in darkness. The leader looks exposed anyway with a lot of light bouncing around for the first three images.
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>>4459683
>dusty maybe working enlargers their grand-pappy had in a locker for 40 years
It probably works just fine as long as it's got all its pieces, there's not much can go wrong.
>>4459732
I think it lightpipes due to weak antihalation. They load with daylight loaders so the start and end will be exposed.
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Any ideas on what these blue spots are? Googling suggests anything from static to light leaks.
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>>4459744 I have this blank frame from another roll of film that has the blue spots plus what looks like lightning which leads me to think static.
The blue dots are present on 3 seperate rolls of film
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>>4459745
Is it fungus in the lens? The pattern here kind of makes it look like that
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Bros this is in all likelihood the first and last roll of reala I'll ever shoot. I love fuji colours and I really hope I don't end up wasting this on garbage photos. Pray for me
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>>4459749
>already ruined it by putting it in sunlight
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>>4459753
it's fine
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>>4459754
I've gotten light leaks around the paper on 120 before, just saying
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I like how it looks like a 90s movie but I don't get how every single shot needs different color adjustments. Same exposure, same environment, seconds apart, but some frames are way blue and some are way green.
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>>4459896
>some frames are way blue and some are way green
how are you scanning
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Fgt has been dead lately. Share a film based project you want to do or are currently doing if you don't mind.

>>4459727
4x5 is the gateway film to 8x10. Be very careful. I think having and using a view camera is a really great idea for most people that enjoy shooting film.
Some say that shooting film makes you slow down and think about your shots before shooting them and view cameras do that x100. It's a much different mindset/mentality when you only take one or two pictures a day. I really enjoy it a lot and think it may be beneficial to my photography overall.
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I did my mannequin zine >>4449618
gonna post a thread of an idea I had soon from some shots I took last month. maybe tomorrow if I have enough time
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I just purchased picrel and I waiting for some c-41 film from eBay to show up in the mail.
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>>4459945
I am to shoot some building corners
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>>4459951
Awesome. Cant wait to see what you come up with!

>>4459949
Really cool and nice job.

>>4459950
Cute lil cam! Are those better than the rollei compact? The old one. I know the new one is shit.
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>>4459954
I don't own a Rollei so I can't comment on how it compares, but perhaps someone else here who has owned both can chime in.

Here's what was on my shortlist:
Olympus 35 RC
Olympus 35 SP
Konica Auto S3 / Konica C35 FD
Canon Canonet QL17 GIII G3
Minolta cle
Konica Hexar RF (note to self: you're poor and can't afford this)
Any Leica (note to self: must win lottery first)

Yes, my name is anon and I'm a rangefinder whore.
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>>4459945
Waiting for the 50 other photos from Peru
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>>4459928
plustek and vuescan
I think maybe something about processing it in c41 confuses the auto white balance. I can basically scan a full roll of gold/ultramax on default settings without touching anything but this movie film it seems like I have to tweak every image. Some day I will try an actual ECN-2 kit.
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>>4460018
>auto white balance
where does this occur during the process?
my approach is that the entire roll should be processed the exact same way up through inversion & dmax/min points, then you can tweak from there
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>>4460028
I just let vuescan do the inversion and save to a jay peg unless it's something important, then I'll save to DNG and do it manually.
Vuescan has a bunch of options and also LUTs for obscure films, but for normal films I leave it on "white balance" and "generic" and it does good, not so for vision. Probably I would have better results if I RTFM
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>shooting 25 ISO film in my medium format camera
>500t in my 35mm camera
>light meter on my phone has been unreliable and my 35mm camera has multi pattern metering, so decide to just use it instead
>set the ISO to 25
>set the ISO to 25
>shoot the rest of the 500t roll while occasionally remarking to myself about how incredibly unusual it is that I keep having to open up to f/4 on a sunny day
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suedi "food"
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>>4460035
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>>4460032
My 35 mm lens has been stuck at f/2 since I got it, so the images are soft as fuck. I guess both Aerochrome and 500T takes overexposure just fine, but I have shot two rolls of RVP50 this summer that I've yet to receive.
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>>4460038
Yeah I'm not like devastated over it I don't think all the photos would be ruined, they will probably just look a lil weird
Is that aerocolor 2-3 stops over?
>>4460039
Banger
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>>4460051
Either I was using f/8 or P which tends to choose f/8 in broad daylight at ISO 100, so it's more like 4 stops over.
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>>4460059
The highlights and the contrast almost make it look kodachrome-y, but with different colours
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If you ever need a really black background material it is called flock paper. I just found that out and got some for my studio work. Maybe someone else will benefit from the knowledge.
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Aaaaand the egg has dropped. A simple one, but I really like it. The palm leaf stalk piece is really so cool. Should make a cool looking print.
I kinda like the background, but it also kinda upsets me.

I ordered the flock and made this post >>4460300 you can now understand why. Soon pure black backgrounds will be eqsy as egg pie.
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>>4459538
not much, to be fair
Rodinal has high accutance and makes grains way more pronounced indeed
picrel is the original photo

>>4459539
these truck paintings were always common throughout the whole country, but there are lots of regional characteristics
there's this one brazilian dude on instagram who always shares popular brazilian typographic art
his name is Filipe Grimaldi @filipegrimaldi
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has anyone here used this Foma Universal Developer before?
it comes in two parts:
>hydroquinone, phenidon, sodium pyrosulfite
>sodium carbonate
is this a pyro developer? will this stain my stuff?
I wanna use it for developing paper and I'll see how it looks as a film developer as well (stock for paper, 1+3 for film)
any tips on using it? the "may cause cancer" stamp is not very inviting lol
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>>4460567
No I dont think so. Pyro developers use pyrocatechin or pyrogallol. Phenidone is used in pyrocat HD, but I don't think it stains. Ask chatgpt about it. It knows film chemistry suprisingly well.
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>>4460567
Just mix it in a well ventilated area, and try not to get the liquid on your skin. Wear gloves if you're really worried.
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>>4460555
Pyro based developer when?
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>>4460569
>>4460570
Thanks for the info, I'll ask the clanker to better understand it
When I saw "pyrosulfite" I thought it was pyro-related stuff
>>4460604
Well, not this time, apparently lol
It's not pyro
I have a couple more shots of HP5 in my Rollei 35, I'll develop it in this Foma developer and see how it looks when I finish it
From the datasheet it seems to be high accutance as well, so I'm expecting something like Rodinal
The only problem is that I'll have to mix 5L of this thing at once, so I hope it doesn't go bad fast (it was pretty inexpensive, though)
I'll buy 2 5L bottles tomorrow; one for the stock solution, and the other one for disposal
The package states that it should not be disposed of in the sink
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>>4459945
>view camera
alright dude, how do i even begin to look at getting a view camera
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>>4460697
https://www.ebay.com/itm/225912790736

Great deal on one of the best starter view cameras + a good lens. Youll need some film holders and a couple other accessories, but the F2 is a really good beginner cameras.

If you want something more portable go for a wooden field camera.
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>>4460567
Just don't drink developer and avoid getting it on your skin or eyes.
Hydroquinone (a developing agent) is classified as a potential carcinogen. It was also used in skin-whitening products for ages, it is not going to immedately melt you.
Pyrosulphite == metabisulfite is used in many devs and other photo formulas and whatever like cosmetics, preservative in some foods. Some people are allergic to sulphites. Phenidone (also a developing agent) is mostly harmless. Sodium carbonate is alkaline but not as strong as drain cleaner.
If it can be used to develop prints its not a staining developer.
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>>4460804
Ernm ackshully you can use staining developers to make prints and I have them posted in this very thread. They aren't ideal for extended printing sessions, but they do make a pretty nice looking toned print.
Amidol is technically a staining developer and it is considered one of the best.
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>>4460804
thanks for the reassurance
the warnings on the package were much more terrifying than what I've seen on Rodinal or D-72 or D-76 packages, and I'd never seen this developer before, so I just wanted to know if there was any additional precautions I should take
>>4460822
I've researched a bit about pyro developers and seen comparisons between them and regular developers and all, but I can't seem to get the whole staining shtick
what's the deal with it? okay, it builds density in the highlights apparently, but is it useful for non-alternative processes in terms of looks?
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>>4460870
It doesn't build silver density in the highlights. It builds stain density more in the highlights than the shadows. The color of the stain acts as a contrast filter when printing. It makes printing easier by selectively reducing contrast in the highlights.
There are pyro developers with more or less stain you can choose from as well as different color stains.
If you're just scanning then the stain doesn't really make a difference.

Pyro devs are very good for sheet film, alt process, and contact printing printing because it gives you really good control over contrast, and it produces very good/smooth tonality in negatives.
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>>4458293
so I misspoke
this roll of Gold was actually my first in 25y
I just forgot because I devved the p160 roll first because egg
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>>4460958
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>>4460959
it was okay, most were just snapshits
and yeah gold is pretty grainy in 35, still nice colors
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>>4460960
well, nice colors unless you're using uncorrected flash, or fluorescent lighting
>restrooms for men, telephones, and women
funny story about this one (not that anyone cares), wanted to snap some planes at the airport to finish the roll while waiting for a taxi
but the controller guy at the counter was way too efficient, I spent max 30s outside before I was inside the taxi he called
guess I'll have to make a dedicated trip at some point
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>>4460962
oh and I have no fucking clue what happened to this shot
the lighting almost looks like a negative, even after inversion
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do you correct for your lens?



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