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>>4507402What an ugly church. Americans really have no class
>>4507402Ive never had even the most notorious snoys and cannot POS Rs overheat but then again I dont do unga bunga tier shit like use 4k60 as hand shake stablization or 4k120 as a photography replacement, and I fully believe video does not belong on a stills camera and stills cameras should never, ever be used for video or contain more than the bare minimum of OPTIONAL video features for emergency use (ie: you can turn them off entirely and use the freed memory for something else). Buy a video camera if you want to shoot video. The 30 minute recording limit should have been cut to 15 for anything with a mechanical shutter. Videofags are why the r5ii has the real DR of an APSC camera.
>>4507442>cameras badVery insightful commentary I've never seen here before
>f/1.8 ISO 1250 TTL-2.3 Bounce Flash at a wedding>what the fuck>Could literally just buy an actual diffuser and solve all the above issues>Oh wait he's fucking hybridvideofagging a weddingKeklmao. Chud can't handle the possibility of missing a shot so he uses military-grade cope features "just in case". Proceeds to get what he deserves and begins missing the second most important event of the night. Using a camera isn't even hard, but who the fuck is hiring these people?>>4507443The whole board's purpose is to rip on gear you don't like and post phone pics. Idk what kind of moral high ground you think you're taking but cool I guess.
>>4507444Real Talk.
>>4507444>The whole board's purpose is to rip on gear you don't like and post phone picsFor you sure, but that's why the board largely sucks nowNegative Nancy's are pathetic and sad
>>4507034I just got my Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D, its the magnum opus of my A-Mount collection. Its joining 3 KM 5Ds, 2 a100s, 1 a390, and a a58. Next is a Sony A99 or a A7IV with LA-EA4. Here it is next to the a58 I took on vacation. Absolute camera kino before Sony cannibalized whatever sovl Minolta had left. Fun fact, the first thing Sony did when they took the Konica Minolta designed a100 was give it a region lock. Was listed for $45 as junk/for parts, got a offer for $37 + $10 shipping a few days later. Left it on a AC1L 6v 2amp AC Adapter overnight, popped a battery in it, and other than underexposing pics sometimes and being completely filthy it seems great. It has the latest v1.10u firmware so it was definitely loved at some point. Also have my eye on a Konica Minolta 28-75mm f2.8-D Lens. Probably a rebadged Tamron but for $50-100 I can't lose. I want a fast zoom, I find myself constantly changing lenses or missing shots.
>>4507443Video in photo cameras is bad and is the source of everything making mirrorless progressively worse than DSLRs and eternally more expensive. Without videocucks we could have miniaturized DSLRs the size of film cameras with high speed, lightweight mirror mechanisms. Instead we have front heavy bricks with a ton of video-specific heat sinks behind the sensor. In a world without corporations forcing hybrid cameras harder than the US forces “crossovers” that heatsink bulk would be exclusive to professional sports cameras that almost no one needs or benefits from.
>>4507466>modern cameras be like>here's a 35mm f1.4>its twice the size of a normal 35mm f1.4 so we could fit in focus breathing correction>what? why? no one has ever given a single fuck about focus breathing. this is a photography lens isnt it. you make those right?>CINEMA BRO NETFLIX APPROVED BRO ITS CINEMA CINE CINE CINE MUH TIKTOKS *runs away to throw free cameras at "influencers"*
Recommend me a CPL filter bonus points for cheap price and utility so I can put it on every lense I have
>>4507442Not your personal blog
>>4507468Urth. Just go with something moderately large like 67 or 77mm and get a few step-down rings as needed.They're not super expensive but have such a nice fit to anything I've threaded them on to, and the risk of getting them stuck on are almost none.
>>4507470>Urthcan't find those in my countryonly K&F CONCEPT
>>4507442>the r5ii has the real DR of an APSC cameraMental illness
>>4507474I'm curious which APSC camera he means
>>4507477Also, if you're in a situation where you need to use the electronic shutter, all current APS-C drop to 12-bit RAWs and lose an additional stop while the R5II remains at 14-bit.>muh real DRIn the real world you won't notice the slight loss in dynamic range unless you push your shadows 5 stops on lightroom and pixel peep, which nobody in their right mind does.
>>4507464>the first thing Sony did when they took the Konica Minolta designed a100 was give it a region lock.What do you mean by this? I'm struggling to imagine how that would even work. The closest thing I can think of that's actually a thing is how some Asian products don't allow you to set them to English, don't know if they've ever done that with a camera though.>Next is a Sony A99 or a A7IV with LA-EA4If you do the latter I highly recommend doing the Monster Adapter conversion, the stock adapter focuses decently quick but it's so much better having the wide coverage of the on sensor focus points for tracking. Plus you don't ever have to worry about the adapter going out of calibration or lose any light from the mirror.
>noise reduction detected in raws at every ISOIf you see downwards triangles these charts are useless anonYou cant estimate noise=DR if there’s noise reduction. Bill Claff himself has said he believes canon’s forced NR throws measurements by 2/3 of a stop. He even misses some. Go on dpreviews shadow recovery tool and compare shadow pushes with the a6600 and a6700. The a6700 is visibly worse but better on charts because it has noise reduction applied to raws. Imagine paying canon $3000 for APS-C dynamic range FF and noise reduction cooked into the raws if you do not explicitly need their absurd framerates for your job.
>>4507402>cameras overheating in 2026How the fuck is this still a thing?
>>4507490they should overheat more oftenand be limited to 10 minutes of FHD
>>4507491>artificially cripple me harder daddy so i can consoooooom
>>4507409its ugly because its a black church.
I just noticed how both Panasonic and Sony has removed mid-range 4k video cameras with viewfinders from their lineups.
What filter should I buy first, which one do you use more often: CLP or Black Mist?
>>4507489>If you see downwards triangles these charts are useless anonAll mirrorless have denoise steps in their processing pipeline, even those without downward triangles because it's not something you can easily detect. At the very least spatial filtering (Sony having the harshest) and high ISO NR that you can't disable. This includes APS-C that also takes a hit in DR.
>>4507498well, ND is just a meme for faggots who can't lower the exposure Mist can be done later, only CPL you can't replicate
Okay, based on photo quality alone, why does my Canon Powershot v1 with an almost micro four thirds sensor literally produces the same photos as my shitty Samsung A34 5g? Can someone please explain?Left is powershot v1Right is the phone
>>4507518>623x913
>>4507518Both pics are shit.User error.
>We now have cameras with AF speed and accuracy and eye and tiddies recognition that boomers could only dream of>Turns out I only use manual lenses anyway>There are no AF-less modern cameras priced being AF-less other than overpriced memebrandsWhy must I suffer like this. Seriously, can't the chink make such a cheap camera already for fucks sake. How hard could it be.
>>4507522Literally just said that if we’re talking photo quality alone, a larger sensor camera should visibly outperform a midrange phone in the same scene, yet it doesn't. Lmao you are so fucking dumb and lacking on reading comprehension. Go to school, dumbass
>>4507518>literally produces the same photosNo they don't, right looks like ass. Full blown HDR that produces a flatter image. There's a disgusting glow present, the hallmark of smartphone photography. Textures are smoothed over, background blur is artificial, you can guess that from texture edges and the fact that the TV looks flatter.There's a reason you gave us low res pictures to claim they look the same.
>>4507471Gay. Urth is an Aussie company so for once it pays to be a bogan. Top-line K&F are actually made of decent glass but I hate their frame construction; feels cheap and locks on to the barrel far too easily. I use them for my cheapest lenses. Decent value in fairness.
Oh I see we're facing some bait here
>>4507489>You cant estimate noise=DR if there’s noise reduction. Bill Claff himself has said he believes canon’s forced NR throws measurements by 2/3 of a stop.Okay so then you be a not low IQ person and just take that into consideration when looking that the chart>>4507498CPL for product or landscape, black mist 1/8 for general shooting>>4507524Well if you want MF aids, that kind of requires a focus system, and if you have a focus system, might as well support AFThere are plenty of old cameras with bad AF that you can get cheaply and just use manually
>>4507444Are you gunna stop talking like a fluorided shitskin once you turn eighteen or nah?
>>4507481The a100 was almost entirely designed by Konica Minolta, it was released 9 months after the merger. The GUI is identical to the 5D/7D, but they added a region lock in the form of exclusive skus for certain regions that don't let you set it to English (IE the Japanese ones are Japan only unless you reflash it to the US sku's firmware...they got progressively more difficult to do so) And yeah I was thinking of the LA-EA5 for that reason since it ditches the SLT mirror. pic rel is sooc unedited from the 7d, this thing has a serious learning curve. it keeps underexposing the fuck out of my photos even with a minolta 3600hsd strobe on it; i have to run at least +1 exposure. i also got first black frame on it already :( for $50 it couldve been worse. i think i like my 5d more but the 7d controls are really nice, only menu diving i do is to format the card and change the jpeg output. i think the jpeg engine is really bad at exposure, worse than the 5d. going to the zoo and taking my a58 now
>>4507540Sony Minolta Merger - January 19, 2006Sony a100 release - June 5, 2006So all Sony did was give it a language lock, lol. another sooc jpeg
>>4507534>CPL for product or landscape, black mist 1/8 for general shootingwhat about portraits? I've heard glowing skin is bad
>>4507442>I fully believe video does not belong on a stills camera and stills cameras should never, ever be used for video or contain more than the bare minimum of OPTIONAL video features for emergency use (ie: you can turn them off entirely and use the freed memory for something else).I respectfully disagree.While I only shoot around 1 video clip for every 20-30 stills, I find video equally important when it's needed, which is to capture motion in the way that a "freeze frame" can't.Since it is for capturing motion, I don't find resolution/detail important in video, so I don't shoot above 1080p. It wouldn't bother me if 4k and Open Gate were excluded from stills focused cameras.
Best thing you see today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufE3mhvVkjQ
>>4507545SEXO https://kenkoglobal.com/lp/pieniflex_m/
>>4507540I wasn't sure whether the A7 IV supported the LA-EA5, but as it does that could be a good choice. I'm not sure how the price compares to an LA-EA4 and the monster adapter conversion.I did find this though, however some of the replies to the OP don't share his same experience: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/threads/la-ea5-la-ea4-and-la-ea4r-speed-comparison.4730101/
>>4507494Looks white to me
>>4507470>77mmso, my 55mm lense + 5 adapter rings and then the filter itselfisn't it stupid having 5 rings?
>>4507556looks unreliable
>>4507534Anon if you subtract 2/3 stop from the r5ii you do get aps-c drAnd yeah theres clearly some smoothing being applied to a6700 rawsThese things cost thousands. They are meant to be better at edge cases and extreme conditions. Or so you’d think. Apparently they’re actually meant to be better at posting good charts on CineD and being fashionable items for social media sluts to hype, and anyone who actually does photography stopped buying cameras in 2017.
>>4507574Doing a double take it really looks like snoy uses some processing on every cameras raws, changing it per generation to eek out fake spec improvements, and p2p literally never noticedNo wonder their raws are called brittle and hard to edit by end users. The early a7s did some weird shit (concentric color bands).
>>4507468>52mm>use Nikon AI and screw AF lensesWorks on everything up to 135 f/2.8 and 200 f/4.
>>4507574>1/80 vs 1/160>less exposure = more noiseno waycan you show me some images you push 5 stops? you must do it a lot if it's such a priority
>>4507586Equivalence includes aperture and ISOAPS-C ISO 100 always has the photon shot noise of FF ISO 200. Laws of physics. the d850 has roughly the same noise. This is expected. The r5ii has more. This means it has a lower dynamic range sensor and just cooks its raws to fool noise detection algorithms. >you have to show me your five stop shadow pushesIt is plain logic that paying canon $3k for FF with APS-C dynamic range is retarded. The R5II is clearly a specialized high speed camera and most people shouldn’t buy it. Don’t simp for a soulless capitalist tech company too hard now. You’re going to start sounding like one of those literal cucks that makes excuses for the R8 not having IBIS.You are only this dumb rn: >n-no blindly buying the latest model is not stupid all cameras are great the charts line is higher it doesnt matter i am not stupid for giving canon enough money to buy a used car for this if i am not an actual paid professional sports photographer
I notice photographers in general have a hard time accepting that the newest canikony product is almost never made for anyone who is not a paid mutlidisciplinary professional anymore and hobbyists/artists aren’t meant to buy any of itPhotography as art and hobby is as relevant to capitalist camera industry as gnosticism is relevant to catholic church
>>4507466>Without videocucks we could have miniaturized DSLRs the size of film cameras with high speed, lightweight mirror mechanisms.Why would you want an optical viewfinder mirrorslapper when you can have a high res OLED EVF that can show you exactly what your camera sees and all your settings in real time?
>>4507574>if you pixel peep on a photo with 45MP you'll "see" more noise than on a photo with 24MP!!!No fucking way. Is this really how "knowers" on /p/ee measure DR? Sounds like mental illness and trust-me-bro understanding of how DR is actually measured
>>4507574>>4507596DR is measured by SNR, not just "how much noise I see in a studio shot">inb4 "b-b-b-but noise reduction"Noise reduction is a destructive process. While it reduces noise, it smoothes details over, especially high frequency ones; resulting in blurrier images and color bleeding.In your comparison, the R5 II seems to have "more noise", but it also has visibly much more detail.>And yeah theres clearly some smoothing being applied to a6700 rawsThat's a bit of an understatement.The A6700 is a blur-fest, the A6600 is very closely behind. The D850 does seem to have less visible noise, but the R5II still remains a tad bit sharper. Perhaps it's down to the lens, but in this case they're very close.Ironically enough, by trying to prove that the R5 Mark II less dynamic range than an APS-C camera, you've just proven that Sony applies very aggressive noise reduction, far more than Canon, and the R5II does keep more detail despite a one stop difference and Sony's NR.Congrats, you have no idea what dynamic range is.
>>4507442what a very strange thing to be autistic about
Nice sharpening algorithm desu
>>4507597>NR is a destructive processNot if all they’re trying to do is cheat on cineD/dxo shit. They only have to fuck with the raws enough to fool gearfags who simp for canon like battered wives. The chroma noise ugliness in the shadows is a universal indicator of a camera running out of DR. Bill Claff checker canon’s sensors himself. He estimates triangle down = reading is 2/3stop higher than the real DR. The R5II effectively has the dynamic range of APS-C.
>Everywhere else: yeah the canon r5ii doesnt have as much dynamic range. i bought it for video. video doesnt even need 15 stops of DR like a D850 dude. like bro what else is this camera for? getting shots for ESPNs website dude. like dude who cares i need the FPS dude and i dont shoot weddings or landscapes. >/p/: NO ITS NO TRUE. ITS NOT POSSIBLE. I BOUGHT THE NEWEST CANON. IT CANT BE A DOWNGRADE! LOOK AT THIS CHART! WHAT? IT PROVES ME WRONG? ACTUALLY ITS ENOUGH DR. WHY DID I BUY FF THEN? UHHH MICRO FOUR THIRDS BTFO? *snapshits dog*Sad desu
>>4507601>reading is 2/3stop higher than the real DR.So it's still better than most every APSC camera, nice
>>4507602>real world: R5II is a great camera capable of great images and used by a variety of professionals across genres>p: modern cameras bad
>>4507605It’s a straight downgrade if you aren’t a specific kind of professional. Sorry your shopping addiction got the best of you but many modern cameras are tailored specifically to certain professional users and freely downgrade major features that artists and hobbyists expect, while charging astronomical prices because pros will just put it on a business card and deduct it from their taxes anyways. It is plainly not meant for anyone who posts here. This is why canon can downgrade DR or resolution or make giant blobs and still sell them. People like you are not meant to buy them. If canon execs had political power you wouldn’t even be allowed to. And I would agree.Notice brands that cater more to hobbyists keep cameras smaller and more angular and focus on dynamic range and resolution because these features are more useful to people like you. It’s really dumb of you to buy an r5ii for yourself and very dumb for you to recommend it to others with this gay “all cameras are good” shit that sounds as cucky as “someone stole my bike but that’s a good thing”. >>4507603>wow just $3k to beat aps-c by 1/3 stop!It’s not meant for people like you. Maybe one day you will be smart enough to stay in your lane and stick to prosumer/hobby gear like the fuji xe5 and sony a7cii. Then you wont have to stress out because 4chan pointed out that a specialized professional camera is compromised in order to excel at a specific job.
just bought a OM-1 because I was sick of my pentax dogshit autofocus for birds and motorsports and my 150-450mm weighing an absolute tonne. Just need to get a better lens but the 75-300 will do for nowwhat am i in for
is the r7 good? I want canon with IBIS but am too poor for ff.
>>4507607basically an ff camera that starts at iso 800 and always has double the aperture number it shows you (f4=f8)
>>4507518>Okay, based on photo quality alone, why does my Canon Powershot v1 with an almost micro four thirds sensor literally produces the same photos as my shitty Samsung A34 5g?Unless youre shooting medium format you arent going to notice much of a difference with any modern day phone and a dedicated camera (ignore the seething pixel peepers that spent $10k on their mirrorless setup that got mogged by an iphone).
>>4507610Guaranteed replies
>>4507610Sure, and your miata is actually faster than a BMW (ignore the trust fund speeders who wasted your entire net worth on a car they dont deserve)
>>4507615bmws are fucking gay and sovlless though just like phones
>>4507464please give some pictures, i want to see the pictures from that camera please, share some with us
>>4507624See >>4507541 >>4507540location was dezerland in orlando florida
>>4507625all sooc jpeg zero edits i will edit the raws later this week in some cases the raw looks better with zero edits just converting to jpeg in lightroom
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>>4507627museum was mid as hell i paid $30/person to a israeli billionaire to show me his boomerslop (movie cars for normies, 1920s-1950s american cars, and a huge collection of microcars and vespas) 4/10 experiencedid enjoy the slavshit though he had 2 wartburgs, 4 ladas, a moskvitch, a volga, zaporozhets
>>4507628im sure its fun to go for a
>>4507629for a date the arcade was huge
>>4507630i think my settings were natural plus, +1 sharpness +1 saturation and +1 to +1.0 ev exposure
>>4507631"cars of israel"
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>>4507635saw this on the way there
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>>4507637ending this here, i'll try to take more pics with it tomorrow. goth expo was a bust + im too pussy to take pics of strangers but i have a bunch of pics from gatorland, gators are flipping basted
>>4507638thanks anon i like these photos, they have a unique look. what lens didyou use on it?
>>450763935-70mm f/4 af maxxum for most of them, basically a 1980s minolta kit lens, you can find them for $20-30 all day longi wish i brought my 35mm f1.8 sony prime since it was a bit faster and taking pics indoors is a challenge with a 6mp ccd from 2004personally keep a eye out for a konica 5d, here's one on ebay (you can find them as low as $40-60). same sensor, but more common/reliable. i love the look they give, i took this with my 5d. its a combo of the minolta lens coatings + lack of dynamic range from ccd (pleasing grain/lack of sharpness). i took this pic with a 5d + 50mm f1.7 prime (again, $20-30 all day long) https://bestlightphotoblog.wordpress.com/2025/06/30/konica-minolta-maxxum-5d-review/https://www.ebay.com/itm/306909005820
>>4507607the real-time clipping preview is a great feature.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWkYe_8b-8M&t=139
>>4507601>Not if all they’re trying to do is cheat on cineD/dxo shit.DR is a destructive process, no matter what you're trying to "cheat on", whether we're talking about images, sound, telecommunications, or just signal processing in general. That's why we have AI NR to try to "guess" high frequency detail.>They only have to fuck with the raws enough to fool gearfags who simp for canon like battered wives.Not a measurement of DR.>The chroma noise ugliness in the shadows is a universal indicator of a camera running out of DR.Yet it retains far more information than an APS-C with a one stop advantage, how do you explain that? You know what removes chroma noise in other cameras? Integrated denoise.>Bill Claff checker canon’s sensors himself. He estimates triangle down = reading is 2/3stop higher than the real DR.Bill Claff checks RAW images provided by third party individuals and tries to measure a standardized SNR, typically at a value of 1, he's not doing any hardware analysis, he's guessing based on the final result.This guy has been fooled by every single camera manufacturer since his website first came out. But if he were to admit that all manufacturers use denoise (which they all do), his work would fall apart. The R5 II does use denoise, but so do all other cameras.>The R5II effectively has the dynamic range of APS-C.You've just proven yourself wrong with your studio shots.>>4507606>It’s not meant for people like you. Maybe one day you will be smart enough to stay in your lane and stick to prosumer/hobby gear like the fuji xe5 and sony a7ciiLike x-tranny that has color bleeding and the A7CII that has even stronger noise reduction? Are you paid to say that by any chance?
>>4507606>It’s a straight downgradeNah, it's just another example of bean soup theory
>>4507464>S O U LI wish Snoy made a new model and gave it a proper big body and controls like that 7D.>>4507481Theres no need to bother with the Monster when you can just get an LA-EA5 on a newer body.
