The oldest texts we have of the old testament are all in greek. Did the greeks invent the jewish religion? Did they invent the hebrew language?
>>472828218TAKE YOUR FUCKING MEDS NOW
>>472828218yes we did
>>472828218they were pretty gay and liked to fuck kids so it checks out
>>472828218false, the oldest texts are in paleo-hebrew
>>472828421OP is wrong, but so are you.
>>472828421False. They were in Greek. They were in Greek because that was the common alphabet and language used by the people at the time.
>>472828421it's not really so certain. the carbon dating of qumran went badly.
>>472828218weren't they in Aramaic? which is a Semitic language?
>>472828421>paleo-hebrew>casually steals some else's culture >claims it as their ownNever existed
>>472828572nope, hinnom scrolls
>>472828218Greeks are the real jews.
>>472828218You have to come up with a convincing argument for why the story behind the Septuagint is false. Not just the supernatural parts.
>>472828637Youre right, stupid me. I have a meme on this.
Fun fact: in Ancient Greece if you mis tuned your lyre and played it in public it was punishable by death because it shattered the harmony of the world.
>>472828218Idk how Christians can still exist after learning about the history of their holy book. Imagine treating a translation of a translation of a translation as the undisputed word of God
>>472828637they are not scrolls, and are fake
>>472828744so fake!!!
>>472828830It's almost like God is one singular entity that appears in different forms, to different people. Wow...
So Hebrew is a larp language, invented by modern jews to pretend they are an ancient people? Why though?
>>472828390jew lies
When you look at pre christian greek religion you understand that it is the basis of greek philosophy. Greeks looked at the world around the and tried to determine how things came to be using raw reason. Thats why the gods are clustered in areas of meaning, where the archetypes they represent are logical and feed into other archetypes. You can consider the ancient greeks to have been scientists of the metaphysical. They were using evidence and reason to determine how divinity worked. Thats why they were chosen to be the first christians. There is a limit to how far reason can get you in your investigation of the metaphysical. You can figure out the relation of things and you can figure out basic principles. But you can't figure out that god made the world in 7 days. So it makes sense that when the ancient hebrews were cast aside that the greeks would be chosen next. The ancient hebrews had no reason, they had no logic. Because they had no need for it. They had revelation. God told them how it was, and they rejected him anyways. So the greeks, who had been struggling for centuries to understand God were gifted revelation for that reason. I don't understand why more people don't get this.
>>472828788Amber Lamps looking wholesome.
>>472828744>they want me to think THIS is the word of God.kek
>>472828982The modern "Hebrew" alphabet definitely is. Causes too much seething.
>>472828982Yids rape kids and its the best in group preferential system ever invented
>>472828218hebrew is a dead language frankensteined together in the last 200 years from russian and yiddish
>>472828982Because they needed a language that most goyim wouldn’t understand and they needed a replacement for yiddish after all of them survived the holocaust and relocated. Poof they don’t exist but hey look they’re ancient.
>>472828218nothey invented trannylations
>>472828421doesn't exist
>>472828218Yes.The jews are just an earlier version of the Black Hebrew Israelites.
>>472829396They are demon worshipers that invert the meaning of everything
Heblew is a meme language.
>>4728292202 years… post… you dig?>>472829035Revelation my ass. The first Christians were jews. Once Christianity is no longer elevating them, the jews will be ash.
>>472829035neattext to use with my new shredder
>>472829396Lol, yes except you got the chronology inverted.
>>472828218gets me to thinking who really burned down the library of Alexandria.... hmmmmmm
>>472828218No.. Before the last disaster cycle there was a single world order. The controversy of Zion is regarding a new world order or a 'new order for the age', as Virgil put it. Hercules is the figure of it's prophetic leader, an annointed leader approved by the space faring civilisations and Nimrod is the antithesis of him, a rebellious human. Any post diluvian empire is an attempt at that order knowledge of which was carried into the post diluvian world by the survivor elite.
>>472829631We dont think around here. Just repeat things we heard from before
There is no definitive proof for any of this religious bullshit. No tablets with The Ten Commandments on them (supposedly written by God). No Ark of the Covenant. Nothing exists, it's all made up bullshit to justify their religion of judaism which they want to have superiority over the other religions. Christianity is controlled by kikes, that's why Christians defend kikes fervently and to the death. 99% of Christians are kikes.
>>472829833Ark of the covenant seems like idolatry anyway
>>472830039They say that God wrote The Ten Commandments down on blue-colored stone tablets (sapphire or lapis lazuli - they don't even know the kind of stone LOL but I digress) and then those tablets were placed in The Ark of the Covenant. But there is no proof that the chest even exists. When you boil down any of these religions, it always boils down to "you just have to believe bro". I don't even believe in one God or "Satan", I actually believe now there are many Gods and many "demons" and that the afterlife is simply incomprehensible. Neither should anyone need to comprehend it, because who gives a fuck? It's all a distraction. All the religions tells you to go to work and pay taxes. Why?
>>472829833These artifacts are obviously at the Vatican.
>>472828421Kek, this guy is right (the dead sea scrolls, the silver scroll) but is just ganged up in this thread that he's wrong.
>>472828218bible and torah have been changed. only the Qur'an is the Book, in which there is no syllable changed. Only it is in its entirety God's words. "But the hearts of those ˹who disbelieve˺ are oblivious to ˹all of˺ this,1 and they have other ˹evil˺ deeds, opposite to this, in which they are engrossed.But as soon as We seize their elite with torment, they start to cry for help."
>>472830739Yeah right
>>472830982>Qur'an is the Book, in which there is no syllable changed. Only it is in its entirety God's words.The desert version of Cucked Jew stories (New Testament) from the original Jew stories book
>>472830982>only the Qur'an is the Book, in which there is no syllable changed. Only it is in its entirety God's words.Islam is Ottoman state religion.The reason all the Qurans are the same is that the Ottomans collected all the old ones, and gave out new printed ones.
>>472831079>>472831114the verses from the Qur'an are about you.
>>472831207>believe this or elseJust like every religious book ever
>>472830759Paleo-Hebrew is supposed to use the Phoenician alphabet. Literally anything involving the jews is best doubted and closely scrutinized. Especially when they tie the holocaust into it which they do with everything.
>>472828218The Greeks just had a proper writing system. Most bible history was passed down orally when books cost as much as a village and everything in it.
>>472831308"Let there be no compulsion in religion, for the truth stands out clearly from falsehood.1 So whoever renounces false gods and believes in Allah has certainly grasped the firmest, unfailing hand-hold. And Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing."Islam is not like every religion, for every other is false, but Islam is the truth.
>>472828218Hebrew script doesn't began to appear until 200BC as a reaction to Turkic incursions in the northern borders of the arab world. It was never a common spoken language. It was for the elite; it was created to be sacerdotal, legal, and high level bureaucratic.
>>472831464You’re jewish aren’t you?
>>472828218>Did they invent the hebrew language?pic related is all about this and was heavily suppressed
>>472831587>post about islam>you are jewishWhy are poles so retarded?
>>472831632Jews also pretend to be niggers all over the Internet to keep actual niggers in line and hating the correct group. Thanks for confirming my suspicions. Now gas yourself.
>>472830982what flavor of mudshit is behind this vpn?
>>472831603for those who want to be redpilledhttps://ia801600.us.archive.org/13/items/Hebrew.is.Greek/Hebrew_is_Greek_lite_text.pdf
>>472831720jewish
>>472831351Yes, paleo-hebrew, ancient hebrew, proto-semitic, whatever you want to call it used the ancestor script to roman script whatever you want to call that (phoencian alphabet, ok).The kikes changed it for the Assyrian square script that (((hebrew))) uses today.
>>472831725Thanks I think I’d rather find it myself than download pdfs from you. Get used to it. jews will be hunted.
>>472831705you pretend to be literate, but it does not work.jews would never speak the truth about islam, because they know it is the universal truth and that their punishment awaits for them. you need iq a bit higher than 82 to comprehend this, but sadly you are a polish subhuman
>>472831839And you are a jew. Next>>472831789Right
>>472828830NT: GreekOT: Septuagint used by Jesus and Apostles: Greekit's literally all Greek.
>>472832221And these:>>472830759??
>>472828421>paleo-hebrew
>>472831603https://library.lol/main/DCF2B06524F01530E091C971681911DF
>>472828218>Did the greeks invent the jewish religion?No, but the Judeans spoke Greek.>Did they invent the hebrew language?No, Germans did.By the time of Babylonian captivity 'Hebrew' was a dead language already. (If it even ever did exist as something separate from just generic Phoenician; there is still debate about this among the academic community.)
>>472830759The Septuagint predates the Dead Sea scrolls, anon.
>>472832426>The jewy looking posters very eager to share links to this for some reason. Huh
>>472828982Jews always was speaking jidish. They were always German(khazarian)
You people are all retards.
>>472828218Hebrew was extinct as a colloquial language by late antiquity.
>>472828982Modern Hebrew was "invented," developed or whatever you want to call it by a guy named Eliezer Ben-Yehuda. Ancient Hebrew is not a very rich language. As far as I know, it only has a couple of hundred root words, you can't really use it in a modern context.
>>472833648Hebrew was deader in Jesus's time than Latin is now.
>>472828948But only once in the middle of the desert as a flaming bush 3000 years ago to a bunch of paedophiles
>>472831464Then go to a country where you are with your religious brethren. Why are you staying in a hostile country to seethe at "wrong- and disbelievers" like a butthurt woman? A shameless beggar is what you are, you enjoy the fruits of better people while you shit on them. Go in peace, but go.
>>472828218Old hebrew is basically runes. Paganism is the Nimrod cult's stain.The God of Christ is the pre-flood God. It is what it is.
>>472834466When you tune into God through Jesus Christ, you know you've got a line to our Father. No larping demons possible, feels good man.
>>472828218>The oldest texts we have of the old testament are all in greek. Did the greeks invent the jewish religion? Did they invent the hebrew language?Yes
>invent
>>472834619Delusional.
Easy, I don't believe everything jews say.
>>472828218The average greek is super hairy with curls, has a huge hook nose, has a victim complex and is obsessed with money. Coincidence?
>>472828218Entering a bot thread
>>472835456The average American is a mutt, but that wasn't the case when the USA started and it wasn't the case when the USA was at it's mightiest. Something similar probably happened to the greeks, where poor (jewish) immigrants rushed into the rich area and changed the demographics.These 'jewish' immigrants had no history, so they invented the 'jewish' one on greek sources available to them?
>>472828609Pretty much, OP is a kike.
>>472828218>that picimagine the smellprolly quite pleasant, like an old library
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>>472836133Kikes are the original mutt and America is a Jewish land. You should know this shekelburg
>>472828218This is known history....The Septuagint Greek is talked about in the Bible. It was a translation from Hebrew. When Alexander the Great conquered Jerusalem (also in the Bible) everyone started speaking Greek and it was feared Hebrew texts would no longer be read, so they translated it. Septuagint means 70...the number of translators used.
>>472835456That’s not true at all, Greeks have the opposite traits of kikes. Ancient Kikes were inferior semitic rats with no civilization besides claiming their chosen by delusions.
Have a look up of the word "Septuagint" on Youtube. Well worth researching. Not that I know too much about it.
>>472828218>the dead sea scrolls are in GreekJust blatantly false.
>>472828218No, Judaism is knock off copy of Zoroastrian religion. Hebrew is Semitic language that had nothing to do with the Greeks.
>>472836490>wikipedia
>>472836133I'm only 99.99% white... my 11th great grandmother is actually Pocahontas... no I'm not joking.
>>472836634"Hebrew" is literally just modified Irish.
>>472828218…but that’s wrong, you fucking retard. There’s a lot of proto-sand bigger religion in Sumerian. Read a fucking book nigger.
>>472836681Celtic people are related to Hebrews and Canaanites. Hebrew however does not come from Irish. This is a funny but dumb way of explaining it, although, you are basically correct.
>>472831839jesus is referenced in the Quranjesus is a lectacce lectacce does not mean robberjulius cesar was captured by lectacce the term was used by homer to imply a kidnapper of odysseus wife while he was awaygalen used the term in his writtings as wellthese are contemporary authors to the septuagintseptuagint is the oldest bible its written in greeknot hebrewjews have literally been subverting and lying for 3,000 yearsheberew means outsiderthe kikes are a parasite on the earthsagefuck jannies
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>>472836730Ancient Israelites aren't sand niggers. They look no different than Danish people.
this is called the hellenistic hypothesis. i agree with it. there is no evidence of judaism predating ptolemy. the oldest testament is the septuagint.example: Aesop, fable 252, ed. Chambry, 262 Perry, here are Penguin Classic's modern notes:The Greek fable appears to have been taken into the Bible, rather than the other way round. Our reasons for believing this are that the fable only really makes sense if we realize that it is about logs rather than trees, and the misunderstanding which led to people thinking it was about trees rather than logs obviously took place prior to the interpolation of the story into the Book of Judges, where the fable is put into the mouth of Jotham as a way for him to say ‘may fire come out of Abimelech’. Apart from the mistranslation of xylon as ‘tree’, the text of the Aesop fable and the text found in the Bible are extraordinarily close, indicating a borrowing not by any historical Jotham, whose speeches were remembered, but by a very literary writer of the Book of Judges who had a Greek text before him and who, like Professor Chambry, entirely missed the joke. The wry humor of the fable, so typical of the Aesopic material, is not only unlike the earnest tone so typical of the Bible, but also the humor of the fable is actually entirely overlooked by the serious-minded author of the Book of Judges.
>>472836780You might be right
>>472836821It seems to us utterly impossible that the fable could have originated in the Bible and drifted into the Aesop collections from there, since that would mean an inconceivable injection of humor and specific meaning not present in the Bible; such processes do not happen in reverse, nor does water run uphill. What has happened is that a funny fable was misinterpreted by a Hebrew author whose Greek was a bit rusty, and borrowed for a wholly non-funny purpose of a man complaining that his family have been murdered – just about the most incongruous context imaginable. Possibly the reason why the author of the Book of Judges took to the fable was that it mentioned the cedars of Lebanon, which were, of course, just as famous in Greece as they were in Israel; he must have thought that the idea of fire burning up the cedars of Lebanon was a very powerful image for fire consuming Abimelech. But, certainly, humor cannot be pumped into a humorless fable afterwards, it has got to be there to start with and become lost in transition.What this means for dating we cannot say, not being Biblical scholars and having no idea when the Book of Judges may have been written, or indeed whether the fable may have been a later addition to the oldest manuscript, which we believe to be the Septuagint, which, as it was in Greek, might mean the fable was added at that stage by some earnest Alexandrian. In that case there is no need for the fable to be particularly ancient; it could be Hellenistic. Let us also not lose sight of the fact that the idea of the logs seeking to elect a king, in the light of all the other fables where various animals and plants seek kings, is a joke which was probably thought to be hysterically funny at the time, especially in the context of the Aesop collections; in other words, the fable may well have been composed as a satirical addition to the collection purely in a spirit of fun.
>>472828609No faggot, they weren't. Show proof of your claims if so
>>472828218latin is also invented
Kikes seething.
>>472836850bonus white power points, same source:No one has ever worked out satisfactorily whether the Greeks borrowed fables from India or the Indians borrowed them from the Greeks after the time of Alexander the Great’s invasion of northwest India. The Indian versions are always immensely elaborate and longwinded, whereas the Greek versions are generally short and simple. This probably points to a transmission eastwards, such that the simple fables became elaborated, which is generally how things happen, rather than the other way around.NOTE: The amaranth, amarantos, was a never-fading flower. Marantikos means ‘wasting away’ or ‘withered’. Maransis means ‘decay’ or ‘causing to die away’. Since in Greek the addition of the letter ‘a’ to an adjective means ‘not-’ or ‘non-’, the word was used to mean ‘unfading, undecaying’. But what actual plant was intended? In ancient Greece the amaranth was sacred to the goddess Artemis of Ephesus and, as a symbol of immortality, was used to decorate tombs. But the tradition of the amaranth goes back into remotest Indo-European tradition, long before the Greeks existed as a people.
>>472836851Jesus literally spoke Aramaic.
>>472836998In Sanskrit the word amara means also ‘undying, immortal, imperishable’ and in the Indian epic, the Mahābhārata, Amara actually appears as a deity. The number 33 and the letter ‘u’ were also called amara for mystical reasons. The word was also applied to the umbilical cord, to the afterbirth, to quicksilver, to a sacred mountain and was the name of the residence of the god Indra. But the Hindus, too, had a tradition of an imperishable flower, and they called several plants by the name of amara, including even a species of pine. There were at least half a dozen different Indian amaranths, in fact, some associated with the god Amara and some merely using the word as a descriptive adjective. No modern scholar seems to have sorted it all out. But the importance of the tradition cannot be overestimated.Amaratva (immortality) was ‘the condition of the gods’. So, in effect, the amaranths of the Hindus were actually the gods themselves. The only major Greek divinity to whom the name amaranth was applied was Artemis, whose origins were in Asia Minor. Roscher points out in his Mythological Lexicon that amaranth in Greece sometimes became Amarynthos, and that he was the father of Narcissus. And he refers to the geographer Strabo, who mentions in his Geography (X, 9, 448) an archaic Temple of Artemis Amarynthia on the island of Euboea. Strabo also mentions a site called Amarynthia at Eretria in Euboea, which was probably a very early sacred precinct. These archaic Euboean occurrences are significant in that they are evidently survivals of pre-Greek traditions.
>>472836998Kike detected opinion discarded
>>472837022Burkert has pointed out the significance of Euboea as a link between Greece and the East in early times (The Orientalizing Revolution: Near-Eastern Influence on Greek Culture in the Early Archaic Age by Walter Burkert, Harvard University Press, 1995, p. 10), referring to Euboea as a ‘relatively affluent community in the tenth and ninth centuries [BC] which was open to trade with the East’, where ancient traditions, both Indo-European and Semitic, took root.S. A. Handford was wrong to imply in the earlier Penguin Aesop (note to 142) that the amaranth tradition was a late one, whereas, on the contrary, it was so ancient that we cannot trace its origins since they go back further than any texts. Nor was he correct to say that the word was late, since, in the form amaranth, it is earlier than Greek civilization itself at Euboea and, as we have seen, it goes back to proto-Indo-European since it survives in Sanskrit and must therefore originate before the Aryans migrated to India and separated from the peoples who later became the Greeks. The concept of the amaranth cannot, therefore, be more recent than 2000 BC, and is probably much earlier. In all probability the imperishable flower as symbol of the immortal gods goes back tens of thousands of years; we know that Neanderthal men threw flowers into graves, and the proximity to nature of early mankind makes such associations obvious.
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>>472837040>kike>shares indo-european/aryan religious researchAs for the actual plant referred to in the fable, it may have been the weed ingloriously known in English as the pigweed. A more fashionable ‘amaranth’ cultivated by gardeners today is ‘love-lies-bleeding’. But amaranth was never a term of botanical precision and the father of botany, Theophrastus, appears not to mention it (it is not in his Historia Plantarum but, as there is no index to his De Causis Plantarum, we cannot be certain for that work), evidently not considering it a precise enough term to describe any single plant. In short, the amaranth, with its associations with immortality, was more an idea than a plant and, from early times, any plant which dried well or had imperishable aspects partook of the idea of amaranth in the sense of the Sanskrit amaratva – the condition of the gods who never die.
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>>472828218Greeks invented spit roasting a lamb, that's all that matters. There's nothing better than a 12 hour slow cooked lamb leg with the fat dripping off. HAIL GREECE! also they were not gay, that's jewish propaganda, they were quite homophobic as a matter of fact...>inb4 muh spartans fucked boys blablaba....They were separate at the time, it was a warrior cult - that's what cults do -weird fucking shit. If there are no women allowed you eventually have to fuck something...That's why popes and pastors who are not allowed to marry women fuck everyhting else they can find . KYS glowfeds
>>472836765It's lestes, the word you're looking for. Jesus was a human trafficker caught with boy naked at night in a public park and said "I'm not a lestes" and asks why they brought so many men. Lestes would roll in with enough men to overwhelm local officials and they would kidnap people for sale into slavery. That's why the Romans show up with a swat team at Gethsemane
>>472837101Now do a holocaust research
>>472836408>It was a translation from Hebrew.That's the legend, but there is no historical evidence for it.
>>472837160> no historical evidence for it.Just like there is no evidence that Jesus was a kike
>>472837152it never happened, and its unrelated to this thread
>>472828354u did
>>472837222The bible says he was circumcised, that means in that time he definitely was a kike.
>>472837225It’s related when kikes are mentioned
>>472828218Present-day Hebrew was invented in the 1920s, not by the ancient Greeks.
>>472837011True, Jesus would have been fluent in Greek and Latin as well. Greek was the common regional language and Latin of course was the Roman occupiers' language.
>>472837265muslims are circumcised too, are muslims jewish?
>>472828354BGC alert!
>>472837152These are German POW's in the Russian gulags
>>472831789Linguistically it is Old Phoenician. Hebrews are a fictional people. It's sort of like writing a historical fiction about George Washington using period correct English and then afterwards calling English "Washingtonian" or something.>>472828218No. Greek-educated Jews did, after Alexander, under the Ptolemies who ruled Egypt. They used scraps of their religion before the Persian conquest, legal documents from the Persian period, stories from all over the region that had been collected in the Library of Alexandria, and then followed Greek Historians and Plato as models for concocting their "history". One of the funnier examples is that the name of King David's wife is Talmi (Ptolemy).>>472833648It was never spoken. Hebrews are a fiction; Hebrew is a fictional language for a fictional people, like Klingon or Elvish.>>472837011Aramaic was the language of the Assyrian Empire, the first great empire of the region. It's like French once was in Europe or like English is today. Everyone in the region spoke it. After the Greeks the higher-class Jews got education and spoke Greek, while the poors kept speaking Aramaic, hundreds and hundreds of years after the Assyrians were gone. "Hebrew" is Phoenician but written with an Aramaic alphabet.
>>472836743Look at how the words are the same. Hebrew is literally just Irish.
>>472837146thank you
>>472837733Sure they are kike
>>472828218the oldest story in the bible is genesis.genesis is a collection of the oldest stories (including the origin) known to man at that time.2000 years ago, the content of the first book of genesis was already thousands of years old.that content is not jewish, it was collected and used by jews before intellectual property or copyrights existed.the content of the first book of genesis predates jews and is not a jewish creation for their religion.it makes me wonder what else is in there they stole and attached to themselves.how much of the ancient knowledge of mankind is shunned and ignored because of jewish behavior and their tendency to take what others made and take credit for it?
Dead Sea Scrolls are mostly Hebrew.
>>472828218I always thought Prometheus was an interesting character (or Titan, or demigod) deserving of much more discussion.He was known for giving humanity the gift of fire, as well as the arts and sciences, basically everything that allowed human civilization to advance.The indication here is that ancient Greeks were fully aware of an earlier time, maybe even a Neolithic time, when humanity was living in the wild, in Nature, and without all of the things listed above, which I've always thought was an interesting idea for ancient people to have. Prometheus was later crucified and tortured on a mountaintop for his actions which had saved the human race.So basically, a crucified savior.He was later freed by the son of the same god who had sentenced him to punishment (Heracles or Hercules, the son of Zeus)
>>472838259genesis is a bunch of schizo semitic shit with no historical evidence for any events or people in it, this is what any historian will tell you when you apply actual historical methods to this 'sacred' text, which christians including many biblical scholars won't do because of their faithps. just because the jordan river exists and is in the bible does not mean abraham etc. existed
>>472838259A story about a Garden between two rivers is clearly Mesopotamian in origin or inspiration. God with a physical body, walking around enjoying it and fucking with human beings is very Greek. The talking snake is straight Aesop's Fables. The harsh curse Adam and Eve get is some primitive Mesopotamian legal language. It's a mish-mash of stuff the Jews who wrote it put together literally by picking and choosing different stuff from the shelves of the Library of Alexandria.
Yes hebrew was a nearly dead language by the time of Christ. Mostly replaced by Aramaic which is the language spoken throughout the Bible. Modern hebrew is a reconstructed language forged by imposters.
>>472828609No, the oldest copies of the gospel that were written and still known are in Greek. Aramaic was the language that replaced Hebrew and was spoken during the events of the new testament. There could have theoretically been an older Aramaic text but it's lost to history.
>>472838259Would you kindly send me some link or info about the picture?
>>472837265Ancient Egyptians were also circumcised.(Judeans likely got the tradition from Egypt.)
>>47283824310 million Germans were killed in holodomor and the gulags by Jewish spiesPhotoshopping Hitler didn't make them Jews These are photos of Germans suffering Prove me wrong
>>472839026They all have the typical inbred kike faces. Prove me wrong
>>472838433The Qumran wignats probably weren't aware of how new their religion actually was, but thought of themselves as fundamentalists fighting Hellenizers, unaware that they also were fundamentally a product of Hellenization. Their messianism and apocalypticism and the rest of it are clearly more in league with the Zorastrianism that gave birth to Judaism in the first place. So they were fundies, in a sense, but didn't understand themselves vis-a-vis the full historical process.
>>472838969The priests were, apparently. The curious thing about Judaism is infant circumcision. I guess it could be tied into that "nation of priests" thing. Some also speculate that infant circumcision was a replacement for the infant sacrifice that all Semites practiced.
>>472828653This is actually true in some ways of influence when you look at Dionysian madness on the Hebrews since their ascension.
>>472839107point is that the finds contain the oldest copies of OT books, and they are written in Hebrew
>>472828830This applies to every religious holy book.
>>472838811>replaced Hebrew Jews all over Middle East were still speaking Hebrew. Greek is not a Semitic language and has no correlation between Aramaic.
>>472837551>muslims are circumcised too, are muslims jewish?Muslims didn't exist during that time.
>>472836408That’s a fairly typical occult origin story… ancient texts handed down since time of old… the truth is probably that a small circle of people developed a specialized vocabulary in which to communicate and develop their ideas. YHWH (that which causes to be, which brings into existence) even says, “I am that I am,” which is a tautology marking the basis of a system which treats consciousness as the ground of existence, and the 3D world as a consequence of consciousness.The Old Testament needs to be read as an occult text for exploring consciousness. It doesn’t pertain to any actual history or any historical group of people.
>>472839414>Jews all over Middle East were still speaking HebrewNo they weren't.
>>472839414Hebrew was a long dead language by that time, only used for gatekeeping scriptures by pharisees.
>>472828572>Old testament
>>472839414No, aramaic replaced hebrew during the babylonian exile hundreds of years before Christ. By the time of Christ Hebrew was a dead language like latin today. Not entirely forgotten but not spoken as lingua franca
>>472839414Tiberian hebrew, samaritan hebrew, paleo hebrew??
>>472840564>only used for gatekeeping scriptures by pharisees.So why wouldn't the Rabbies change the texts so to make a mental prison for jews with themselves at the top?That is sort of what we see in Rabbinical Judaism, and how jews tries to force other to live in their mental prisons is the main reason jews become hated.
>>472836408You cannot translate a simple language into a more complex language. There has NEVER been a hebrew into koine greek translation of ANYTHING. Isn't functionally possible. You can translate koine greek into Hebrew though, but you lose details. You literally need to learn koine greek if you want to know what was in the Bible.
>>472828421The New Testament was in Greek anon… Old Testament in modern Hebrew. Unfortunately there is no paleo Hebrew of the Bible. The secrets wouldn’t be as well hidden if we all understood garden language now would they?
>>472840811I hate the demiurge
>>472828218They appear to be the same phenotype and (((Koine))) greek is pronounced Cohen.
>>472840952>Isn't functionally possible.this sounds like complete and utter bunkem. Maybe even jenkem
>>472841014Can you elaborate on this a bit, please?
>>472841139https://youtu.be/vM-wLR9qhH8?si=FQFc2rSp9uV7LXtR
>>472841248from the bizarre question alone i can tell this has nothing to do with the point here. Can you perhaps explain it in your own words or provide something reasonable to read?
>>472828218Jesus and Moses reference the Asclepiushttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AsclepiusJesus mentions Hadeshttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HadesThey make several references to Greek myth features. Jehovah is also pronounced the same as Jove, as in Jupiter.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovahhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter_(god)
on bible assemblage in the library of Alexandriahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEEhqRxfFck&ab_channel=GnosticInformant
>>472828390>anti western culture psyop narrative>copy pasted in every historic text book except the actual historical accounts of ancient greece>normies only exposed to psyop version of historyIts so tiresome
>>472828218Nigger, the oldest texts in the world are Akkadian and Sumerian tablets, it's just that 99.9% of them are bean counter spreadsheets, and the 0.1% remaining are "TOP 10 Kings" style lists
>>472841820He just does a better job. I have deferred the work. Learn koine greek or you don't know your own religion. Simple as that.
>>472828218Christianity is Greek in origin. the Canaanites stole it, rewrote the original txts in their native language and started larping as the chosen, even the modern "hebrew" language is Canaanite/Phoenician renamed.
>>472829833>Christianity is controlled by kikesthat is the only true point you made, the rest is kike bullshit.
>>472842689im at maybe 1st year level koine, but i still dont agree with your initial claim.
>>472842919What is my initial claim? I am on a morning stroll paying little attention
>>472842829This
>>472828218Christianity took Judaism and sprinkled Platonism into it.The Holy Trinity is based in Plato's Tripartite Theory of the Soul.
>>472842829>s Canaanite/Phoenician renamed.is german made
>>472843009it shows. I meant your claim here >>472840952> There has NEVER been a hebrew into koine greek translation of ANYTHING. Isn't functionally possible.
>>472843231Ah yes. You're totally retarded if you think otherwise. No concept of history or linguistics.
>>472843293still no support for this. since ive never heard such an outlandish claim from anyone apart from you i will opt to disbelieve you this time.
>>472842091The Persian conquest created Judaism, or a sort of proto-Judaism. Persians lied about “The Returners” and imposed a kind of soft or colonial Zoroastrianism on the Semite polytheists of the Levant. They built a Temple for them and imposed most of the stuff we think of as Jewish, from focus on one primarily Good god, aniconism, to purity laws to angelology to Apocalypticism, eschatology and Messianism, etc etc. After they fell to the Greeks, these newly made Jews got Greek education and used it to cook up their own “history” and holy books to present themselves as an ancient and important people to the Greeks.I’ve been on this for quite some time and am very glad to see it growing. It’s the key to dismantling the Abrahamisms. It explains so much about Jews and why they do what they do, why they think the way they do, why the religions they spawn are the way they are, why our world is how it is. Deconstructing their totally fraudulent origins will puts the last 2000 years of Western if not world history in a new light.
>>472843459You could watch that video but you got butthurt about it before watching it(low IQ move). Dr.Ammon Hillman IS the leading expert of this field and has been public for years and has gone fully unrefuted by the butthurt masses. He has hours and hours of material, he has done the work for me. I will not recite these hours and hours of material just to impress you. Click the link, bitch boy.
>>472828218No they documented real events. The Bible is a historical document. The history of the one TRUE God's people and of him sending his only begotten son to die for our sins.
>>472843166Judaism already had it. The Jews who wrote the Hebrew Bible had read Plato. A couple hundred years later the exact same motherfuckers were doing the same things when writing the first Christian texts.
>>472828218A gayreek is just a Jew who followed a rolling coin into a church.>Trust a snake before a jew and a jew before a greek but don't trust an armenian
>>472834619True bro, true
>>472843959He saying you have to bang him before you can cum on his father, you closeted homo
>>472838259FYI David’s mother wasn’t a Jewish, which is why he was hated by the rest of his family and why the lineage of messiah switching to him is a big deal to the prophets
Longest game of telephone in human history. Like all things jewish, they are massive fabrications and exaggerations. It was only when they finally put pen to paper in GREEK did the fabrication become "real"
>>472843637i'll take a look at some of his work at some point, but it strikes me as just more of the same kind of fringe stuff that comes around from time to time. He's clearly no friend of Christ and with a name like that i really wouldn't be surprised to find a seething jew behind it all.
>>472842303>TOP 10 KingsThe authors of the Hebrew Bible made good use of that kind of stuff. Really pads shit out and makes your bullshit look historical.
>>472828609>Old TestamentNo
>>472830226>"you just have to believe bro"It's called faith.
>>472844986That's why you have to learn koine greek, to find out that he isn't lying. Because it's obviously very offensive stuff. Also, after listening to him you will find that he is truly seeking the truth. I genuinely thought he was a demon for a long time. It took me a while to properly wrap my head around him and his intentions.
>>472843539>I’ve been on this for quite some time and am very glad to see it growing. It’s the key to dismantling the Abrahamisms. It explains so much about Jews and why they do what they do, why they think the way they do, why the religions they spawn are the way they are, why our world is how it is. Deconstructing their totally fraudulent origins will puts the last 2000 years of Western if not world history in a new light.this endeavor doesn't seem very popular. Who is the most famous guy talking about this?
>>472838601>Garden between two riversTheres a few place that could be in Greece, between two rivers
The hebrew dialect was turned into a language in the 50s.
>>472845320"Biblical Minimalism" It used to be called the Copenhagen School because that's where it started. It's not really called that anymore as far as I can tell.Philip R. DaviesThomas L. ThompsonAre older guysRussell Gmirkinis a new one. There are lots
>>472845320I should mention that the explicitly anti-Semitic slant is all mine. But, of course, Jews claim it about these scholars anyway.
>>472837160>>It was a translation from Hebrew.>That's the legend, but there is no historical evidence for it.The Bible itself is evidence for this.
>>472845166you know koine greek? how many years of accredited study have you been through? where did you study and how taught you?You initial claim that you cant translate hebrew to koine is retarded though, unless all you mean to say is that a direct literal word for word translation cant been done because of the differences, which would be the only true claim and hardly an kind of original or insightful claim at all since that goes for man languages.The fact that we have ancient copies of most OT books in hebrew in the deadsea scroll finds, and that we also have the septuagint in greek, and that nobody else but this kind of fringe (drug and sex ritual obsessed) kind of guy claims you can get from one to the other all tells me theres likely very little to his claims.
>>472840952The Dead Sea Scrolls prove the Septuagint was a translation from Hebrew to Greek. They all match. And Hebrew is more complex then greek.
>>472846406Your questions are for gay niggers You absolutely must learn koine greek to confirm claims about koine greek for yourself. There is NO consensus amongst experts they are all self-interested or institutionally intimidated. Once you become fluent enough to know what words mean solely based on their structure you can begin to do this.
>>472846737the problem is that you dont have answers for those simple questions.
>>472846896No, you're using multiple different fallacies and I have zero respect for them whatsoever. I will just say bad words to you when you do this. Learn koine greek.
>>472846945so you dont know koine greek and by your own standard cannot properly confirm what Hillman is saying. glad we got that sorted out.
>>472828218>here goy look at the even older hebrew scrolls i found
Its like a bunch of dumbasses all basing their work on the people who did the translations poorly and with bias. The scribes of the day could write anything down and get away with it. Its like todays lazy coders who build on top of all the functions and libraries of other people whether they are optimal or not. We build on a shaky foundation.Ammon Hillman is one of the few who can put 2 and 2 together because he didn't specialize not only in greek, but greek medicine and the terms in the bible have heavy medicinal overtones. AKA Drugs. He's completely right.
>>472847071You see anon, this is why nobody respects you. My dick is of adequate size that these types of posts will not result in you getting what you want.
>>472847672Good post, modern scholars are far and wide superior to medieval scholars.
>>472840031That’s not even remotely true the Old Testament is literally supposed to be a historical account and reads as one. Stop being a pseud, maybe actually read the Bible.
>>472841248>"dr">tattoos on head and chest>stopped watchinglollmao even
>>472848045Remain ignorant
>>472842091Not inclined to listen to ANYTHING this shabbos has to say as he had a rabbi on to tell us about JesusNot even a Christian, but come on, you know what is going on there
>>472848141Remain tattooed
>>472847672>The scribes of the day could write anything down and get away with it.but the dead sea scroll hebrew texts are right there for anyone to compared to the later greek versions. >>472847686you're not a serious individual.
>>472848195I have none
>>472828218Yep Ptolemy II. Before that they were all disparate texts and oral traditions. It's the creation of Plato's ideal state religion
>>472848220You were given the answer, but you want your hand held too. You genuinely suck.>>472848154So whom do you trust?
>>472834389Don't forget 1400 years ago he showed up again to recite his autobiography to another pedophile in a cave. Well one of his employees did.
>>472848045ad hominemIf you watch him long enough he gets serious and he SERIOUSLY knows his shit, especially greek. I mean more geniuses are partially nuts to get into something that deep for so long. He is a character but once you understand his language the guy is NOT WRONG. He's actually brilliant if you throw away the whole satanic angle.
>>472848313the only answer you've given is to a question nobody asked. >>472847686>muh dickthis is how i know you're not serious in any way at all.
>>472846519>Hebrew is more complex then greekdoubt
>>472848313>So whom do you trust?Not the jews or their willing slaves, that is for certain. Only need to look at a little history to know that.
>>472848595>I gave him the answer and he can't even find itYou really deserve nothing. Truly.
>>472848220Yeah and it backs up the Septuagint 9 times out of 10. The Masoretic text is intentionally deceitful.
>>472848567>ad hominemGoodbye to this reddit thread
>>472828788this is based because jews messed with music by subtally changing music tuning.
>>472848610Do you have within you the capacity to discern truth from a lie? Or are you unconfident in this and so you protect yourself by filtering the information you receive?
>>472848637you gave nothing, just a link to a youtube video and then information about your peepee. you can't explain an of this in your own words, have no clue about greek or hebrew, and listen to an satanist jew trying to make Christ out to be a kiddy fiddler. what a joke
>>472828218jews aren't Hebrews genetically, spiritually, or historicaly
>>472848770At this point you're just refusing to learn new things, little brain. >can't explain in my own wordsActually I'm just enough of an asshole to not give you this because I decided you were a fag a long time ago.
>>472828218Bible is fiction
>>472848813>>472844112oh no no no how will kikes ever recover
>>472848639>Yeah and it backs up the Septuagint 9 times out of 10which goes against what the other guy in the thread shilling Hillman has been saying. The later text comes from a time when they wanted to distance themselves from anything Christian, and we know this because its possible to check it against earlier hebrew and greek, again something which has been denied here.
>>472848848how convenient for you that you dont have to bother supporting your claims with people you disagree with. i can see how that is useful to someone in your position.
>>472848652Bury your head in the sand bro. Eventually the truth will catch up with you and we'll be here. Your journey has just begun.
>>472849032It is indeed convenient. You shouldn't have been so gay. Your fault.
>>472849094>has to start talking about his peener>calls others gayyou're absolutely transparent here you know that?
>>472828218jesus himself was very likely ethnically at least half-greek because the majority of people in the world at that time were greek and also were the majority in the region jesus grew up.
>>472848961Septuagint is the real first pen to paper of the old testament. It is the only real origin text. The dead hebrew language didnt have the complexity to tell the details in the Septuigint. It was an oral tradition embellished and hellenized. It became "legend" What about the writings of the same time period before then in Elephantine Island? None of the jews once mention in thousands of papyri anything about Moses or Noah or Abraham. Its because its almost all fabrication or exaggeration.
>>472849181My dick is enormous, it aids in me not giving you your answer. This is a fact, backed up by science. Testosterone results in both behavioral and physical traits. You're quite reddit, and therefore gay for thinking you could write that off.
>>472849265Correct. The dichotomy of leafs. Sometimes I forget there are good ones.
>>472849265but the dead sea scrolls, which have been completely ignored in this thread, militate against this whole idea. and if was all just an oral tradition, at some point it was converted into spoken greek from what came before it, proving that it was possible to pass on the detail.
>>472828218Oldest are Ethiopian. There's a reason the Mediterranean looked up to Greece, but Greece looked up to Ethiopia.It's too bad Alexandria was burned. There still might be some great scrolls or tablets buried in caves which survived the destructions ordered by zealot branches of the blood of that poojeet Abram.
>>472849480why would greeks look up to niggers
>>472828218God isn't hebrew exclusive, the Greeks were believed in God by reason, the Hebrews believed in God by revelation.
>>472849436ARE YOU LISTENING?The Septuigint is 100-200 years EARLIER than the Dead Sea Scrolls!!
>>472848813>ews aren't Hebrews genetically, spiritually, or historicaly/thread
>>472848813Jews were Canaanites. They didn’t come from anywhere or go anywhere and return as conquerors. They were polytheist Semite nobodies at the crossroads of Empires who got their asses kicked by every swinging dick that marched through. The influence of Persia and Greece made “Jews” and their self-reported history is lies.
>>472849556He's a dumb one. First year greek student apparently.
>>472847825>That’s not even remotely true the Old Testament is literally supposed to be a historical account and reads as one. Stop being a pseud, maybe actually read the Bible.It reads like propaganda which swtched up allegiances multiple times, sometimes in the same chapter.
>>472849480I really really hope the Herculaneum scrolls they can maybe read now have lost texts in them. By lost I mean destroyed by Christians. The timeframe is perfect.
>>472849556if anything the LXX was produced at around the same time as the dead sea scrolls are dated to, although the earliest manuscripts of the LXX are from a little later.
>>472840031>“I am that I am,”that was Popeye
>>472849556
>>472828218Greek speaking Alexandrian kikes invented it circa 300BCThe entire OT is a fiction - a jewish power/revenge fantasy
>>472828421Incorrect
>>472828218Greek was the international language of ancient times just like English is the international language of today.
>>472841241Sure anon. Before there was modern Hebrew, there was ancient paleo Hebrew. The language that Adam and Eve spoke in the garden and most of their ancestors used for 1000s of years. Modern Hebrew is mixed with kazarian influence and lost a lot of the apocryphal knowledge. For example. Yahweh (YHWH, YHVH) proved himself before he ever came.Y = YodH = He V = VavH = HeYod He Vav HeNow look at the meanings for those letters on the chart I included. What do they mean? “Behold the hand, behold the nail” Christ cryptographically proved himself before he ever came. > My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge
If you go far back enough you will find that Judaism is polytheistic and therefore Christianity and Islam is as well
>>472849556Source please? or elaborate?This is the first time hearing this.
>>472829035>Thats why they were chosen to be the first christians.Jews were the 1st christfagsAnd christfaggotry is semitic nonsense for slaves and hysterical women
>>472829452>They are demon worshipersThey worship yahweh so yes
>>472850206Go look it up. DSC written minimum 200BC to 100AD
>>472828218Stop revealing our secrets, varangyan
>>472828218no. there is a gap between paleo-hebrew and modern hebrew, whereby modern hebrew appears in the record during babylonian captivity, but does it? consider the battle of Charchemish.I am talking about the script, the alphabet.
>>472850344I agree with you but why a lot of hype of it when we already had a perfect well written manuscript before that? A lot of evangelicals are using the DSC a lot to justify modern Israel's existence.
>>472829035It is clear that philosophically and spiritually, Christianity is far more similar to Neoplatonism and Greco-Roman religion than it is to Judaism. If you’re a pagan, you can take this as proof that we should return to the original non-judaised Hellenic faith. If you’re an esoteric Christian, you can take this as proof that Christianity was the development or fulfillment of the ancient mystery cults. I think we’re heading toward a new religious synthesis anyway, and it’s incredibly retarded to ignore either of these currents. One should instead look for what is good and spiritually effective in each, and work with them pragmatically without any attachment to “correct opinion” or “faith”. Who knows, maybe we’re like 10 years away from some sort of Aryan Hermetic Christo-Nietzchean Perennialism, perhaps the next prophets and apostles are already shitposting here today. For some time I’ve been posting a short booklist of practical contemporary occultism, centering around the time period of the Hermetic and PGM material. This was an era in which Greek, Egyptian, Gnostic Christian, and Eastern magi all interacted and shared ideas creating a system that is highly syncretic in appearance, but purely straightforward and functional when you get down to it. You have rituals that call on Osiris and Michael, Jesus and Set, Hekate and Hermes, with an overall very Heliocentric astrotheological approach. The books I recommend for a modern practitioner trying to reconstruct this approach to spiritual practice (should read these in order)>Hermetic Magic, Stephen Flowers>Real Sorcery, Jason Miller>Divine Magic, Patrick Dunn>Book of Abrasax, Michael Cecchetelli
Anyone even know what Hebrew meant?It was a derogatory term used by other races like we use for Pajeet. It meant a non specific tribe jew. It meant foreigner. Especially meant people from Canaan. We all know where cannibals originate from...
>>472850344naturally you have to ignore the standard date range of 300BC-100AD for the DSS because otherwise that would support what i said up here >>472849749
>>472850674A lot of Christian sects also deny the dead sea scrolls because of book of Enoch and whatnot
>>472850697Marcionism will return
>>472837131Based Thracian bro
>>472850674DSS is awesome because it confirms or backups stories. Even though there is no written texts older than the Septuigint, it makes reference to fragments and pieces of information from before. It also proves the masoretic text false in many regards. But it still doesn't back up any stories of Moses etc. Just like we look for historical or archeological evidence to prove Jesus rose from the dead or even existed and cannot find any. The DSS had an opportunity to do that and it didnt. But it did help verify SOME things.
>>472850824Marcion .. if we only had the real texts. Even still Paul was a pedo homo so a lot of his original texts can be questionable. Most of his "Jesus rose" shit was added after by a different author.
>>472850874It's funny when historians feels the need to lie and pretend the DSS are the oldest documents, solely out of their own biased and the feel good story that it would be given how they were foundBtw the guy that found the DSS found a shit load of other documents but those were all destroyed
>>472850874>Even though there is no written texts older than the Septuigint,Let me rephrase that. There are claims there were attempts to create the hebrew language as spoken before the Septuagint but nothing of any significance that backs anything up.
>>472850956>Paul was a pedo homoaccording to who? this one Hillman character who's really really into drugs and satan?
>>472851092Nice refutation I'm sure your first year Greek helped you debunk his claims
>>472851092ad hominemI was there too I wrote him off but actually listened and looked up and researched all his claims and they are verified.. every single oneHe's eccentric for sure but he is right.
>>472851182the guy has been studying ANCIENT greek for 30+ years and studied medicine as well.
>>472851189This, we are at the point that if you are not a scholar yourself just fuck off because you have no capacity tell determine which scholars are lying and which ones aren'tAmmon Hillman is not lying, and a demon also wouldn't be named "Amen"
>>472828574SO edgy
>>472851376Exactly which is why he SHOWS us everything he's translating in every VIDEO straight from the lexicon! He backs every claim up. It is why hundred of people are now learning greek for themselves. Why the tools to look up words and meanings for ourselves were provided. I don't take his word for it. I look it up myself. I look at the context. Every time he's right. You've been lied to. You've been deceived. There is nothing that is going to stop the truth from being revealed. The apocalypse is upon us.
>>472851182ive mentioned the extent of my education while you have only mentioned the extent of your peepee.>>472851189>ad hominemi think in this context its relevant to mention stuff like this, anyway, as to how right he might be about an of this its something ive not had time to look into and nor has anything been supported in this thread. man assertions have been made about him being right about things but nothing more.
>>472828218No. The jews of that time used the septuagint. Which is why the Catholic and Orthodox churches use it. You could always use the supercomputer in your hands to do research, rather than being lazy or a troll.
>>472828218Jews themselves say in order to properly understand the bible you got to read it in the original language which is either in hebrew or in greek. Latin, english and many other languages derive from greek. I suspect the jews took an aspect of ancient greek to keep that 'divine' aspect of the language so they can say they are Gods chosen people
>>472851376AH has done sound work but his fixation on that one passage and his interpretation thereof is sensationalist to say the leastFurthermore the greek term means "youth" ie not little boy
>>472839318The Septuagint predates the Dead Sea scrolls by many centuries.
>>472851564And every "Greek scholar" that tries to refute him just prove themselves to be embarrassing frauds when they try The entire field is full of people who are not truly disciplined and as well just following the herd It's a "must learn this for yourself" thing for sure
ChatGPTAPP — Today at 10:17Ah, excellent question, The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Septuagint are both significant ancient texts, and their chronology is fascinating. The Septuagint, a Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible, is believed to have been written between the 3rd century BCE and the 1st century CE. The Dead Sea Scrolls, on the other hand, date back to the 2nd century BCE to the 1st century CE, with some scrolls possibly being even older. While there's some overlap in their timelines, it's generally accepted that the Septuagint predates the Dead Sea Scrolls. However, it's essential to note that the Dead Sea Scrolls provide valuable insights into the textual history of the Hebrew Bible, which in turn influenced the development of the Septuagint.
>>472851564could you provide an example of what you're talking about, not in a video, please.its one thing to translate a things from a lexicon and quite another to do it honestly with regards to the context.
>>472851580It's fuckin huge it is>>472851633It's kind of an issue
>>472851680Duck Tales Dan tried and failed miserably.
>>472828788hold my lyre
>>472828354the greeks invented sex, the italians introduced it to women
>>472851679and where would you find support for that claim? numerous DSS manuscripts themselves are dated to the same time as the LXX was being made...while the earliest fragments of papyrus containing LXX material are dated later than that.
>>472850718Nobody knows for sure but historically interpreting as a derivative of “Eber Nari” is common. It means “across the river”, the river being the Euphrates. So the name is from the perspective of conquering Mesopotamians.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eber-Nari
>>472851564He's right on lots of things but you must admit his mental health is shaky at best. He needs to lay off the drugsFurthermore his interpretation of "youth" as "little boy" is fucking retarded as is his assertion that lestres MUST = slaver/trafficker when it means a generic brigand in most cases
>>472851725>It's kind of an issueSure it is. An issue that won't be solved by sensationalist assertions
>>472851949>>472851880You do not address the how and why of his definition you simply assert an alternative usage, of which the alternative usage would possess it's own how and why
>>472851685What translators never studied pharmacology? How would they know the terms were widely used as drug terms as cures for ailments? What if the translators didnt have knowledge in other areas of science? Then we'd have a 100% religious slant on the text. He's studied Galen one of the most renown doctors of ancient greek and all his medical documents. He keeps finding a LOT of correlation and use in the bible that makes religious contexts sound more scientific and medical. I agree. There were no such thing as recreational drugs in ancient times. It was all considered medicine. So I'm not doing your homework for you. Learn greek, learn word roots, and its hundreds of variations and where they are applied in other texts. You'll start to see the pattern. This isn't some cognitive issue. This is "we haven't had all the fact" issue and now we are getting them.
>>472852092You are far more charitable than I
>>472851880Is this the Jesus gay thing? So an early fanfictioner got a little too Greek zesty with his story about the messiah. What’s the big deal? The rest of the shit is made up too.
>>472852047>You do not address the how and why of his definitionNeither does he. He just asserts it.
>>472851880Others in the same time period and location use the same word in the same context of child trafficker. That argument is invalid. The situation at the time since there was many children involved .. the word applies. It makes sense why people came in crowds wanting to cruicify him. I'm still not convinced he was one. He could have done it on purpose to whip up a storm so they WOULD crucify him. He could have been helping them. But in all reality his apostles were children. There were a lot of sexual things going on and drug related things in the NT that you just can't explain away once you really see the context now. It all makes sense.
>>472852274See>>472852092He does, quite a lot. He's been talking about this for years. You, at best, saw half of one video.
>>472852092>how would they know the terms were widely used as drug terms as cures for ailments?because theres such think as the TLG which allows anyone to search the entire catalogue of ancient greek usages across everything we have from Homer to the fall of Byzantium.
>>472852245hush now. maybe go play with your peepee or something.
>>472852334No, I've seen a years worth of his videos. Went back further. I never took him seriously until the Danny Jones interview.
>>472852265I don't even think Jesus existed so I don't care either way. That stated asserting sensationalist interpretations based on asserted narrow translations of 2 words is fucking asinine.But it does get you attention.
>>472852456That's what you think it is because you didn't go beyond being angry about it>>472852390I don't need your permission for that
>>472852322>in the same context of child trafficker. Utter crap and a blatant sensationalist modern interpolation on his partThe term meant a brigand which undoubtedly included pirates and slavers etc eg the thracian pirates who kidnapped Julius Caesar for ransom or the numerous other brigands who would snatch young men,women and children to sell as slaves>It makes sense why people came in crowds wanting to cruicify him.This is simply sensationalist reinterpretation on AH's part and he knows it>But in all reality his apostles were children. Rubbish. Nothing in the text supports thatIn any case none of these characters existed imho
>>472852334I agree with his medical/drug researchMy points stand
>>472851786>and where would you find support for that claim?Everywhere on the internet, you dumb fuck.Furthermore, the Dead Sea scrolls weren't written in Hebrew.
>>472852537>being angry about itWhy would I be angry? I'm not a retarded christjew.
>>472852893>>472852824Explain Jesus being covered in a purple substance and speaking nonsenseYou're biased
>>472852988>Explain Jesus being covered in a purple substanceWhere is this depicted? Provide your sauce.
>>472852962For me, I think the medicated cock bandage was related to a circumcision. That would make sense to me. Doing a circumcisions for people when you know you're going to get arrested. I can see that. The question here is, did he suck that dick like a rabbit would?
>>472852906>Everywhere on the internet, you dumb fuck.everything i see mentions 300bc-100ad for the physical manuscript dates.>not in hebrewreally?
>>472853098He mentions this within 5 minutes of him speaking about the naked child, you haven't paid Ammon any real attention at allShithead liar
>>472853101Rabbi*Autocorrect
>>472853116> 300bc-100adYes, that is after the Septuagint.> really?"Dead Sea scrolls" is a collection of scraps (less than a page), written in many various languages. Not "Hebrew", whatever that means.
>>472852988>You're biasedHow so? If anything I'm biased AGAINST abrahamic creeds including christfaggotry. I'm neoplatonist and curbstomp christfags heredaily. That said I'm not going to just accept sensationalist drivel because it triggers christfagsFTR I do think christfaggotry was a jewish mystery school cult including drug use but imho Jesus never existed outside the minds of deluded cultistsHe's a midrashic construct
>>472853426When something makes you angry, you turn away. You will never get truth with this personality.
>>472853394>that is after the Septuagint.and you have good support for that?>no hebrewyou just wrong. you can see them for yourself if you want.
>>472853240Naked "YOUTH" - not child>He mentions this within 5 minutes of him speakingHe mentions a substance on his faceThere is no mention of the "purple"
>>472853515Bro it's in 6 different languages
>>472853480>no you angry tho because I say so repeatedlyYou sound just as retarded as the christfags honestly
>>472853585Oh yes he does, he says this maybe 20 times. Shows you reviewed a 2 minute section. Lol.
>>472852824Why would he claim he was not a pirate with naked kids running around? at 4am in the morning? So much so that they needed to bring armed guards?Because he was a pirate?
>>472853710You think a man's honest work is sensationalist because of your own feelingsGet help
>>472852906Well some parts were.. most in greek though.
>>472828218true
>>472853654how does that mean large portions of it were not written in hebrew?
A large number of Talmudic words were borrowed from Greek, and many of them have kept their original form and exotic flavour, rendering obvious the existence of a mixture or amalgam.
>>472828218Nigger