Why did Russia fail to go to the Moon?
russia already visited sun, moon is for pussies like america
>>473259536Fewer Germans
>>473259536The fake moon landing will hasten America’s demise, and Russia will take top position because they will have clout around the world because they never lied about a moon landing
>>473259536They made the ship, but the ship was hijacked by mutated sharks. A couple cosmonauts gave their lives to protect this planet. Didn't you see the documentary "Sharkside of the Moon"?
>>473259536couldn't into heavy lift rockets and bad economy
>>473259536Notice how everyone is ready to shit on America until it comes to the moon. A big no-no in leftardism. To undo the moon landing is to undo muh science gods.
>>473259536If you actually believe America went to the Moon, you're fucking retarded.
>>473259536They did go with probes. Neither did the US with actual humans. https://youtu.be/FlpstXNjImY It looks like a 60's or 70's sci-fi movie. A pretty average or even poor one in parts and details. You wouldn't be able to communicate while landing that jet, there would be a big crater while landing that jet, the shadowing doesn't make sense for the moon settings in the pictures, no pictures made of stars during the night as they were there for like 3 days supposedly (lol) and making perfect pictures with no problem with those temperatures & an old camera (lmao). You can see the actors getting lifted numerous times. The flag does move without being touched which doesn't make sense for the moon either. Most counter arguments are poor and they released a cringe psyop to discredit the really fake moon landing with poor arguments and an actor acting like a movie maker, in reality the US government themselves made it and it's fake regardless of this bullshit. The moon landing with humans is the actual conspiracy simply because they survived radiation that would have killed them numerous times over twice somehow without proper protection going through the radiation belt as the rocket couldn't lift it all back then, this is also why no human has still been there with our tech (they need to actually fix this problem). The landings at some point did happen with probes and there are real good pictures of the moon and thus likely also material. The bigger conspiracy is that they scrubbed clear structures shown on some places in these real pictures. Nasa overall just sucks and it's perfectly reasonable to suspect degenerate masons and the US government to scam their people for high billions of $$ and to 'win' the space race against the Soviets who were clearly leading it.
>>473259536>America visits planet of war>Russia visits planet of love
>>473259630North Korea landed on the sun not Russia
We split the atom and invented the atomic bomb but sending men to our nearest little rock and back is too far fetched? Just accept that generation was the master race
>>473259536why did America?
>>473259536They made a deal in 60's. Russia keep quite about "moon landing" in exchange for free vodka.
>>473259536The breakaway civilization told everyone no
>>473261144Did China and India and Israel all get something too?
>>473260897US did a lot of cool stuff back then. even the Shuttle was cool af even if it wasn't the best over all choice.>>473260913>You wouldn't be able to communicate while landing that jet,why?> there would be a big crater while landing that jet, why?>, no pictures made of stars during the night as they were there for like 3 dayswhat night? if you mean appollo 17, they landed during lunar morning, and a lunar day is about 14 earth days in length> those temperatures & an old camerawhat temperatures? do you think things lose all their heat instantly they enter a vacuum? its wasn't an old camera either, its still one of the best medium format cameras you can buy, and theirs were modified for the environment
>>473259536Why was it necessary to build a superheavy lift rocket that could put all three sections into orbit in one go? Why not launch each part on smaller, more reliable rockets, assemble in orbit, then go to the moon?
>>473259536Russia didn't fail to go to the moon.They just knew it was a giant waste of money and resources.Russia is actually the most successful country in the world.Russians still believe in exceptionalism.
>>473262009that was definitely one option and Von Braun had plans to do it that way. Thing is that the Americans nailed orbital rendezvous and docking during Gemini, while the russians didn't until much later, and both the russian and US programs decided on a single launch long before they knew how to do that.It came down to the success of the heavy lift rockets, or not, because that was route which was chosen a decade before the first landing basically. once committed, everything else was designed and built to do it that way.
>>473259536They sent a dog there
>>473262545Interesting answer. I don't see how that stopped us or the Russians or China from going to the moon since Apollo. Especially with how regular and reliable that rocket launches have become since then. NASA draggs their feet a bellyaches about needing SLS perfected before trying again, but they could do it right now by using a bunch of SpaceX lifts.
>>473263091>stopped us or the Russians or China from going to the moon since Apolloboth countries descended into failed communist economies. china tore itself to pieces or starved and any tech they had was given to them by a gradually weakening soviet onion. but look at whats going on now - china is fast passing milestones in space travel and the US is now working towards going to the moon and beyond using the multiple launch approach you mentioned, mostly because of the massively increased payloads they want to take there.For the small scale landings of the apollo program a single large launch vehicle was doable. just a couple guys and little bit of equipment each time. a single starship landing will place more mass on the lunar surface than all 6 apollo landings.
>>473262916I like dogs who didn't die in space
>>473263851i Laika, if you know what i mean
>>473259536Money. The russians went with a too ambitious design. That design couldn't work with the technology of the time. Interestingly, that's similar to the design SpaceX went with, and they took more test launches than the russian version ever did to succeed. The russians simply saw that their design wouldn't work and would need a budget they didn't have. The Apollo program was simply more reasonable and they had more money to accomplish it. It was still a monumental undertaking that employed a huge fraction of the nation to accomplish.Idiots who say "it never happened" don't know how many million of people were affected and the industries involved. It was a nation-wide group project.
>>473259536>Why did Russia fail to go to the Moon?Russia is Nigeria with snow, they are practically a third world country by any metric, Stalin set them back 100 years, and Putin is setting them back another 100 years
>>473264786>and they took more test launches than the russian version ever did to succeedhow are you figuring that? i think the N1 had...4 launches and blew up every time i think, the last time right on the pad, taking a lot of people and facilities with it. That, and the things you mentioned, led to them ceasing their moonshot attempt. Starship is similar in that it has lots of engines on the main stage, but many are gimbaled rather than thrust variable to control attitude, amongst many other differences.
>>473259536Sergei Korolev died in the middle of the race
>>473263091>I don't see how that stopped us or the Russians or China from going to the moon since Apollo.Or America.There's no other valid answer other than it was fake.Note how infantile the Canadian anon's responses to that are, he always shills in these threads, he'll post at least 50 posts itt.He will also lose argument and start accusing anybody who disagrees with him of being a flat earther
>>473266263hello flat earth fren. which infantile responses are you talking about
cuz mb moonlanding is fake ?
>>473259536what did the US do with what they learned from the moon landing? literally nothing. whether it was faked or not is not important because the end result is the same, just a bunch of money wasted for nothing other than propaganda.
They didn't own such splendid talents like Kubrick
>>473259536they didn't have stanley kubrick
>>473266732just go search for this string "technology developed due apollo program" and spend some time reading about it.
>>473266462>Starts accusing anons who don't buy the moonlanding of being flatearthers>Exactly 1 post after I said he willKek dumb shills will never not be retarded
>>473259536Because space is gay
>>473267305we both know you are, but it really just a joke since you brought it up first.again, which replies of mine in this thread do you think were infantile?
>>473266910>>473267186
>>473267223>technology developed due apollo programLet's see ... well imagine that. I'm sure Kubrick being there is just a coincidence
>>473259536Not enough money and political turmoil if you want a genuine response.
>>473267571yes, the top director of the period, known for his excellent photography, was able to buy one of the very few highest quality lenses produced to order. Since he was also consulted for advice on how to best equip and plan the photography/videography for apollo, we can bet he used his nasa contacts to be able to snag one of those awesome lenses.>waah kubrick filmed itfor which you have no evidence, let alone opposing evidence in the form of his busy schedule of producing his best films all through that period, and the fact he never left the UK after moving there in 1961 lol
In noviet Russia moon comes to you
>>473267455Yep, there ain't no fucking way in hell this is a coincidence.
>>473268039Is that a Bosmer?
Soviet technology just wasn't up to it; they lacked the metallurgy, electronics, communications infrastructure, or manufacturing standards needed for a venture of that complexity.
>>473259536>USA>moon
>>473267455there is literally no resemblance at all, what a shit stupid conspiracy theory
>>473259536They are space pussys
>>473268341Something like that couldn't be that much on the nose, now would it? The sweater. The numbers. The way Kubrick butchered King's story to make it fit something else entirely. There's something going on in there.
>>473259536soviets cut funding for the N1 after Korolev died
>>473268341>Danny is playing on a carpet with trucks on a pattern that somewhat resembles the launch padIf it was the only thing ok but>He gets up with an Apollo 11 pic on his sweater ("launches")>"Travels" to room 237 (Moon is 237k miles from Earth)Too many "coincidences".When you add all the other hints from the movie it's impossible it's all by accident
>>473269111>Moon is 237k miles from Earthno, but perhaps you meant miles. But even then, the distance varies constantly. Min is about 225k miles, max about 252k miles. Is the number 237 in there somewhere? yes. but so are many other numbers.
>>473269509>no, but perhaps you meant miles.scratch that part actually, had some kind of brain malfunction/reading comprehension failure lol
>>473259536The Soviets put so many probes on the surfaces of different planets yet when the US lands a man on the moon is counted somehow as a win, it's like claiming an participation trophy,
>>473269771yes, its all absolutely the same thing
>>473269894I'm thinking if Russians now would actually try they could go to the moon because no DEI
>>473270129maybe. guess they''d rather kill ukranians and their own people instead.
>>473260901We absolutely went. Six times.
>>473266263A) We did go back. Six times we went in total. B) We're going back again. Artemis has been in the works for years.
>>473269509>But even then, the distance varies constantly.It was the average nasa gave>>473270906>A) We did go back. Six times we went in total.Since Apollo ? No you didn't. All 6 times during 1 president btw>B) We're going back again. Artemis has been in the works for years.Hahaha>Kennedy announces "we're going to the Moon in '63 before America even had a successful space flight>6 years later they are on the Moon (practically from scratch)>Artemis and other are in the works for decades and they have things to build on but somehow they just can't figure it outKek
>>473260885Also design bureaus were competing for resources and there was no agency to coordinate space-related projects.
>>473272364>It was the average nasa gavewhen? where?
>>473259536
>>473259536They went to a different planet. Sent all sorts of probes and got interesting info
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>>473275091fair enough. most of the averages i see mentioned put it at 238800 miles, and its was 245k miles away during apollo 11. but anyway, you're still ignoring what i said about kubrick here >>473267916
No more German propulsion technology.Turns out a commie shithole of Slavs and Khazars doesnt last too long.
>>473259536The rocket became the world largest non nuclear explosion and killed the engineers building it is what.
>>473265608You're right, Starship succeeded at its 4th launch actually, which is interesting
>>473270608No, you absolutely didn't. Nobody did. If you did, then you'd easily get there right now yet you can't. This isn't some extreme lost Roman technology, you there supposedly 60 years ago. You have all the "data" and working mechanisms to build it again, if it actually happened.Not to mention the footage and everything surrounding it is absolutely retarded and bang on unfeasible. The footage of the original speed "walk" proves how much of a hoax it is.
>>473277565yeah it was great. ITF3 was a success for the booster and staging, although ship had issues and failed on reentry.
>>473259536Russia didn't invest in landing in the moon. Russia strategy was solving the easy problems first, one by one, while USA strategy was solving the hard problems.
>>473277959>you'd easily get there right now yet you can'tYeah they can. Just like they did in 69. But there is zero point. I think you just need to get over the fact that your country has never achieved anything.
>>473259536They had plans but quickly scrapped it because it's really fucking expensive and doesn't really serve any purposeThey spent those money on orbital operations and shuttles to the Moon and Venus the same year as US moon landing
>>473263091the chinese literally had to rebuild their country from scratch after like 20 years of unbroken war, that's a pretty steep bill
>>473278754pretty much true. artemis 2 could have been manned and it would have been, like apollo 8 was, if nasa had balls and a serious competition they wanted to win.
>>473259536it made the first satellite, first space stations, first space walk, first soft landing on another planet, first picture from surface of another planet, made an innovative albeit shitty mars rover, first recording of another planet surfacethe moon is small timet. soviet space autist
>>473265109that's the tsars' fault, russia went from defeating napoleon to getting its shit pushed in by the japanese in just 90 years and all of that was well before the revolution
>>473279802>the moon is small timeyeah, i guess thats why they gave up, just not worth it.
>>473270906>going backquestion is when
>>473260913>no pictures made of stars during the night as they were there for like 3 days supposedlyGood bait
>>473259536The best Nazi scientists wanted to come to America and not some frozen shithole like Russia
>>473282417its so realistic
>>473259630I hope they visited the sun at night, otherwise it would be too hot for them.
>>473282561i hear the dark side of the sun is quite nice
>>473259536Both America and Soviets stole rocket scientists from Germany at the end of WW2. The Soviet's project leader was an egotist that chose to ignore the expertise that their German's provided.
Even the russians concede we put people on the moon. They studied the radio frequencies to verify. Russian nor the chinks deny our moon walk.
>>473260897I like how space x with modern tech fails at making rockets that land and take off again but apparently decades ago they done it on the first go no problemAlso, didn't they leave the camera man up there cos who was filming them fly off the moon lmao
>>473270608Lol, but you lost the technology. So either you are are retarded or liars. Pick one. I don't really care which. They both amount to the same thing
>>473282766>stoleVon Braun and his buddies willingly sought out US troops so they could hand themselves over and get the fuck away from the Russians. The US didn't even want to bring them over to start with and it took quite a while before there couuld be an argreement to do so.
>>473259536Van Allen's belt.
>>473283792you mean the Van Halen belt?
>>473259536Communism always fails
Becoming they threw their only halfway decent rocket engineer to the gulag, which caused health issues that eventually killed him.Korolev's death was also very unexpected and that pretty much killed the N1 program.The Soviet's Union technology was always rather crude compared to NASA. This approach worked for the first stage of the race since it isn't that hard to launch something into orbit, but doing something as complex as a crewed lunar mission requires a degree of sophistication that the USSR simply didn't have.>>473283474The LEM wasn't reusable like the space X stuff is. When starting from the moon only the top part would launch. It was also lighter and didn't have to deal with the atmosphere.Also they didn't leave a cameraman, they left a remote controlled TV camera there.
>>473278754
>>473284573still though, all worked on the first try?
>>473286676It wasn't the first try, they did perform a lot of different tests. The development of the LEM was apparently rather painful and the entire thing costed 2 billion dollars (in the sixties mind you).The Apollo project as a whole suffered two massive disasters as well. Apollo 1 killed it's entire crew during a test and 13 blew up in space.
>>473286145You try to source components that weren't manufactured for 60 years.
>>473259536Russia is a turd world hellhole that cant even go to kharkiv. Russia isn't the USSR. Why did the USSR fail? Lack of tech and skill.
>>473286145>some faggot in a video claims we couldn't do today what we did in 1969Shit! You disproved me!
>>473259536>Why did Russia fail to go to the Moon?America made it first, there was no point in spending money to be second.
>>473288013The components:>Space suitsImproved since Apollo>Life supportImproved (they even have toilets now unlike Apollo KeK )>ComputersImproved >Various spacecraftsImproved, just look at the Space Shuttle, they couldn't dream of it back then and then there are space stations etc>RocketsAllegedly improved (sending rovers to Mars but somehow Americans have to use Soyuz rockets to get to the ISS)>Inb4 they use spaceXNo, they still mostly use Soyuz>Inb4 muh SaturnVThey still have 2 SaturnV rockets.If they could build them from scratch in 6 years they should be able to reverse engineer them in 60, maybe ask Chinks to help KeK>>473288247>some faggot in a videoThat's a NASA astronaut so he should know.Unless you think NASA lies about everything but not the moonlanding hahahahaha
>>473289042>Unless you think NASA lies about everything but not the moonlanding hahahahaha>we couldn't do what we could in 1969Laughable claim. Go back to your youtube conspiracy videos.
>>473289042All the things we currently have and use have different properties, to rebuild the Saturn V we would need to re-engineer the entire thing from scratch anyway. So they went and tried to make an even better rocket and that's how constellation was conceived and aborted and then Artemis and SLS was born.Because of the problems with constellation and then the SLS (rocket science is an Indiom for 'hard' for a reason) nasa didn't have a human ready suborbital transport vehicle. Delta rockets can't be used for humans, too squishy.
>>473289481You're not making sense>You say NASA could absolutely go to the Moon rn but "they don't want to">An actual NASA astronaut with multiple ISS missions says they want to but they can't because they've lost the technologyBut you apparently know better than him because Reddit told you KeK
>>473259536Nobody went to the moon. It is literally impossible for humans to go there without dying to radiation. I would also love if some of the sciencebois itt can explain to me how can the Apollo shuttle go and come back from the Moon with the amount of fuel it carries but we are unable to the same thing without using 10x more fuel in 2024
>>473289042>should be able to reverse engineer them in 60were they trying to do that for 60 years. no. that last artemis mission could easily have been manned by nasa are more risk averse than previously.> they couldn't dream of it back thenyes they could. they were testing stuff like that before and during apollo.but you dont believe its possible to go to the moon anyway do you?
>>473289918>1 astronaut>they "lost" the technologyCurb your autism. Clearly, if the US REALLY wanted to go back to the moon, they could. We have self landing rockets now you total fucking idiot.
>>473289723That's a retarded cope>We have better tech now but we can't go to the Moon because constellationThey have everything they had back then but better and more of it so why can't they go ?The obvious reason is that such travel is currently impossible ? Why ? Hard to say exactly but the radiation is possibly the problem.
>>473289918>they've lost the technologyand when did that one guy say that? why not quote anything else he ever said instead of this one little sentence which you and others refuse to understand in context?
>>473259536No one has been to the moon yet, the moon landing was a psyop from the cold war.
They KNEW what was up there
>>473290345>but the radiation is possibly the problem.no its not, not so far as relatively short moon missions are concerned. you have ZERO evidence to support this line of argument. No i suppose you'll refer to some out of context quote made by von braun in the 1950s.
>>473290322>>473290369>NASA could go back to the Moon clearlyAlso>NASA employs idiots like Don Petit who don't know what they are talking aboutYou shills are totally broken at this point because you have to shit on NASA in order to praise NASA KeK
>>473290742oh no, he's knows whats he's talking about - its flatfags who dont know what he's talking about and relentlessly misrepresent it. So, when did he say that he'd go back in a heartbeat if he could? how long ago was that? has he made any more recent comments about the subject?
>>473260913Operation Avalanche
>>473290630The point is that the travel is impossible, learn to read. They obviously have the tech but can't go.If it's not radiation (but it is) then it's something else, maybe they don't have the tech and never did
>>473291075>The point is that the travel is impossible,>if i repeat something over and over that means its truewhy? i know for you it MUST be impossible even though you lack evidence or supported reason.>If it's not radiation (but it is)lol you fag. like i said, you've no evidence for this. nothing at all.>they obviously have the tech>maybe they done have the tech>maybe i'll just make stuff up and be hard to pin down
>>473290345It's possible, it has been done both manned and unmanned, hell, the ISS passes through the anomaly every once in a while.The space shuttle was a dead end, constellation was a dead end and was salvaged into Artemis. It's first crewed launch is scheduled for late last year and it's going to be a dress rehearsal for the actual lunar landing the year after that.NASA these days is extremely underfunded (which is why constellation was canned btw, because Obama refused to increase the budget) so it's a wonder they're doing any crewed missions at all.
>>473290921Hahahahaha basedI might watch it
>>473259536>Why did Russia fail to go to the Moon?Communism
>>473262009Why does this rocket need to stop at a servo 20 times to get to the moon. Couldn't they have made the tank large enough. Even in the 60's they knew how big the tank would need to be and how much fuel the would use for the trip, supposedly
>>473286145>we destroyed the technology
>>473291370Communism doesn't prevent you from winning every other goal in the space race, only the Moon landing which requires capitalismKeK
>>473259536>Why did Russia fail to go to the Moon?why couldn't you do it as well and faked it then?
>>473291444compare the mass of the apollo stack and how much made it to the lunar surface. then keep in mind that starship refueled in orbit can place more than 100 tons on the lunar surface then take off back to lunar orbit. 20 launches for each lunar mission is the highest number anyone suggested. the low ball number are 6 or 7.
>>473291665it does when your economy is weak and youe heavy lift rocket doesnt work, then takes out half the launch facility blowing up on the pad. and sure, they made a bunch of firsts during the early days as the US program was gaining momentum, but once the US figured out orbital docking and rendezvous, a vital ability for all kinds of stuff, they never looked back.and, many of these Russian first were only first by a matter of weeks, do keep that in mind.
>>473292004you mean once US figured they could just make a fake moon landing and siphon NASA's budget to their black/wet projects and also gain a propaganda victory in the cold war. it is a very smart thing to do but also very, very sinister. if the moon landings are really fake that is one of the most evil acts a government ever carried in human history in my opinion.
>>473292188no, because there was no need to fake it. its not impossible to go, and there has never been a single engineer of any kind who has disputed any part of the equipment used to do it.
>>473292499why can't NASA find a single engineer to design a space craft similar to the ones designed by people in 60s and use that design to go to the moon in 2024?
>>473292715Look at Orion. that's basically what it is, just using modern materials and tech. thats why they can have 4 people on board for longer missions and it still weighs less than the Apollo CM
>>473291830Are they putting 20 1000m3 tanks spread between LEO and the moon or 1 big 20000M3 tank floating in low earth orbit so it can refuel
>>473292715Because the computer granny passed away
>>473293002>1 big 20000M3 tank floating in low earth orbit so it can refuelpretty much this
>>473259536went for Differential thrust rocket instead of simpler vectorized nozzle design, leader of the program died, top 2 kosmonauts died, bad timing, over ambition, loss of talent, etcnot taking more German scientists in also fucked them
>>473292853you can't possibly believe Orion will ever be finishes and will ever get launch in a lunar mission.
>>473290274The Orion capsule wasn't ready for crew life support for Artemis 1. The schedule exists for a reason.
>>473262545they did it, literally a year later
>>473293047how will they put 20 times the volume of fuel in the starship when the capacity is 1/20 the required volume or are they going to tow the fuel tank with them to the moon
>>473293059>>473293168with nasa the way it is who knows. hope it will. what was not ready on the capsule? something substantial? they thought apollo 8 wasn't ready but they did fine.
>>473264786SpaceX rockets are indeed similar in design to the N1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpuKu3F0BvY>went to the moon (totally real plz believe)>but lost the technology, whoops>also lost the original telemetry data>meh it was nothing interesting anyway>decides to shut down the whole thing once russians launch ship capable of tracking rockets>pure coincidence, actually ran out of funds, yupYanks lie as naturally as they breathe.
>>473293712based
>>473293712Not to mention one of the moonrocks they brought back was loaned to a school which got tested and wasn't really from the moon and they then claimed they sent a replica actually.
>>473293201literally 19 months later, and then with unmanned robotic craft. which is good, im not trying to talk shit about the Russian space program.Wasn't until 1969 they finally managed to achieve a fully manned orbital rendezvous and docking
>>473292004If the USians got beat by a couple of weeks, why can't the USians best themselves by a couple of years? Are they they that chinked and browned?
>>473293922The Dutch national Rijksmuseum made an embarrassing announcement last week that one of its most loved possessions, a moon rock, is a fake -- just an old piece of petrified wood that's never been anywhere near the moon.The Rijksmuseum is famous for its fine art collections, especially paintings by Rembrandt and other masters. One of its lesser known objects, the "moon rock", was first unveiled in October 2006 as the centerpiece of a "Fly me to the moon" exhibition. At that time, the museum said the rock symbolized the "exploration of the unknown, colonization of far-away places and bringing back of treasures..." A reading about the "moon rock" was even held on October 7 because it was a full moon!The rock was given as a private gift to former prime minister Willem Drees Jr in 1969 by the U.S. ambassador to The Netherlands, J. William Middendorf II, during a visit by the Apollo 11 astronauts, Armstrong, Collins and Aldrin, soon after the first moon landing. Drees had been out of office for 11 years, but was considered an elder statesman.When Drees died in 1988, the rock was donated to the Rijksmuseum, where it has remained ever since. According to a museum spokeswoman, Ms Van Gelder, no one doubted the authenticity of the rock because it was in the prime minister's own collection, and they had vetted the acquisition by a phone call to NASA.According to an article published by the Rijksmuseum, at one time the rock was insured for approximately half a million dollars, but its actual value is probably no more than around $70.
>>473293307from what i read, the LEO tanker can hold 1200 tons of fuel. Each launch to fill it can carry a bit more than 100 tons. The booster which will refuel and then take the lander version of Starhip will take the 1200 tons of fuel. They also plan to have refueling capability in lunar orbit so that the lander starship which will stay in lunar orbit for several months at a time can land and take off more than once.
>>473293712you misrepresent as you type>>473293922linky?>>473294162that was never handed out by nasa. compare what it looks like to every single other gifted sample.
>>473293922>Replica moon rocksRussia was more interested in Venus.
>>473294416a return sample mission from venus would be impressive. the chinks are trying for a mars sample next
>>473294407>does not even try to refute anything Your concession is duly noted and accepted.
>>473294416
>>473259536Their rocket designer died before N1 was completed and IMO the rocket's first stage was too complex. The more engines = more things to go wrong IMO. You can read about it here:https://russianspaceweb.com/n1_3l.html
>>473294887ive answered all your silly points before and yet here you are, posting them all over again. several of them have been discussed in this thread already, but i'll mention the russian tracking ship thing quickly by just asking a few questions; have you ever bothered to work out russias tracking capability before they had that ship? Do you think it wasn't possible for them to track an object on a lunar mission sufficiently to know if it was really going to and on the moon before?
>>473259630venus, but you are right, u.s muricans are cucked by their corp plutocracy
>>473295136>i will ask questions and hope you make my point for meOk. I concede.You win, americans landed on moon, nothing was faked, I am a fool in fool's pants, debate is over and winner is you.
>>473295968i'll see you next time with your list.
>>473296292muh psyop from cold war is real!!!!!humans went to the moon and even come back!!!!elon musk will colonize Mars by 2025!!!!!
>>473294245so it uses 1200t of fuel to get to leo of send it up empty then fill it in space which takes 12 more launches to fill the tank also while hanging around for several months in lunar orbit >All for a 3 day trip
>>473259536>Why did Russia fail to go to the Moon?guess again chud
>>473296292And with my youtube link, don't forget my youtube link I carry with me in case of moon landing debates.
nobody ever went into space, they would get fried by radiation
>>473296637>All for a 3 day tripno, not all for a 3 day trip....or it doesn't have to be when you can take 100 tons of stuff with you and a bunch of people. The apollo LM was easily able to keep 2 guys alive and happy for 3 days on the lunar surface, so what do you think HLS could do? >>473296643oh yes, your link to american moon, the most well produced collection of idiocy i've ever seen. Seriously though, you should answer those questions i asked about the ship. its obvious you never thought to do so.
>>473296764evidence?
>>473297194Van Allen himself. They sent up counters, they all went off the scale. The Russians said they didn't want to send people to the moon. Why? Because they didn't know how to protect them from radiation>We just flew around the radiation brah. lol. lmao even.
>>473297323>They sent up counters, they all went off the scalewhat scale? was the sensor protected like a guy and spacecraft would be, or was it directly exposed? what about the later flights? did the apollo craft go through the same parts of the belts? why do you refuse to understand that they did in fact fly over the VAB and did so at their top speed? Does this matter when it comes to radiation exposure?
>>473297537>We just flew around the radiation bro
>>473296987Of course not. I don't play the jewish game of "I will ask questions and drop subtle hints so you arrive to a conclusion yourself"If you want to say something - say it, I won't say it for you.
>>473259536everything is a scam and everyone is a scammer.
>>473297577and yes, there you go with this shit again. you dont want to understand the difference between electromagnetic radiation and high speed particle radiation. i know where this loop goes with you so whatever.>>473297655>of course i never bothered to check on the visibility of the moon from mother russia before>i'll just assume they needed a ship to know if a craft was really going to the moon or not.this ship thing is not the gottcha you are looking for
im just flying around in muh spacesh>oh no a high energy proton. better fly around that one. phew. we're off to the moooon oooh no more Z particles, quick buzz, fly us around it.
>>473298355there are areas of higher particle count and energy, and areas of much less of both. Where do you think they chose to fly through? How do you think that effected their exposure?
>>473298512yeah yeah they just got out the radiation radar and flew around it, in their mm thick spacecraft. duh.
>>473298832what do you think the satellites you mentioned were doing up there all that time? thats right, they were mapping areas of higher and lower particle counts.> mm thick smany mm, of various materials. go look into it. ive read it averaged out at about 9g/squarecm density. go find out about that too.
>>473299104satellite aren't real for the exact same reason. send tin can spaceship into space, 100MeV particle hits aluminium hmm i wonder what will happen then. Oh thats right, Bremsstrahlung. They'd have been x-ray cooked inside>n no we just flew around it. tiresome.
>>473274902Don't tell them this it's Nigeria with snow
>>473259536Because they sent probes instead ? Why bother sending a man to the moon when they preferred Venus
>In some cases, such as the decay of 32P, the bremsstrahlung produced by shielding the beta radiation with the normally used dense materials (e.g. lead) is itself dangerous; in such cases, shielding must be accomplished with low density materials, such as Plexiglas (Lucite), plastic, wood, or water;[26] as the atomic number is lower for these materials, the intensity of bremsstrahlung is significantly reduced, but a larger thickness of shielding is required to stop the electrons (beta radiation).oh dear. tin can spaceship would have irradiated the crew>it's ok we just flew around it. lel
lets pretend they did walk on ze moon (they didn't but lets pretend). There's no solar particle wind on the moon? oh i think there is. >um well, the betacloth spacesuit would have protected them. maybe they could jump around the particles?
>spends billions on le moon rocket>destroys the technology afterwardsmakes perfect sense
What did he mean by this bros?
>>473299233>satellite aren't real for the exact same reason.oh, so the satellite used to collect the data you referred to in the beginning wasn't real?> 100MeV particle hits aluminiumdid they fly through areas with that energy level?>Bremsstrahlung.sure, and do you know how the secondary particles are best stopped? i'll tell you since this is my last post for the evening - a fibrous material or something like foam-type insulation. can you guess what was placed between the layers of honeycomb aluminum and stainless steel on teh CM?>tiresome.yes you are, very.>>473299737come back when you have something more than your speculations on the radiation environment on the moon and ignorance about the construction of the suits.
>>473300288>oh, so the satellite used to collect the data you referred to in the beginning wasn't real?is a rocket a satellite. man i know canadians aren't too smart but . wow. >come back when you have something morecome back when youv'e got something better than >we just flew around it bro
>>473269111>>473272364i get it, you are a skeptic but your argument that you saw something in a stupid movie is low IQ bullshit.at least provide credible criticism of the vast amount of evidence NASA provided in film, photo, thech etc. i understand its fishy to me too that the orion radiation data was not published yet. >https://blogs.esa.int/orion/2023/01/20/first-radiation-checks-on-female-phantoms-after-moon-ride/but dont pollute it with your movie bullshit.
oh and i know exactly how the suits were built. they wouldn't stop anything but alpha radiation.
the suits were built by a womens latex tiddy holder factory too. lmao.
The Earth is flat and stationary
>>473259536Because they don’t know how to lie as beautifully as the Americans. Filming the moon landings in a Hollywood studio.
>>473260188Faking 6 moon landings is harder than just going to the moon.
Do non-boomers really believe we went to the moon? Its been 50+ years and we haven't even gone back and can't go back.
>>473259536Day 30 of u.s. astronauts stranded at space station hvhs
>>473300888yeah every time they say they're going back, they don't. and then it gets cancelled. NASA steals millions of dollars per day. For what? They can't send people to the moon in 2024 and they couldn't in 1969.
>>473300888We went to the moon. Don't underestimate the abilities of white men. You probably wouldn't believe in nuclear weapons if we didn't use them on you.
starting to wonder if NASA is just secretly funneling money to the Jews.
>>473270129I love how they further modified the lower photo and got the only guy out of it. Women Strong or some such nonsense.
>>473267223space blankets! why do these conspiracy theorists always forget about the space blankets! and the hamburger toothpaste goo! and the hose for pissing and shitting! amazing useful technology! who woulda thought that for a small price of a mere $200,000,000,000 in 1969's money we could have these wonderful things definitely worth it just for the technology alone. there was no other way. science grants? naw. lets build 6 huge rockets first, then make some neat tech. it makes sense. only schizos would question this. plus secrets just dont exist in the government. thats preposterous. can you imagine if the government kept secreta from us? i sure cant.
>>473301249JPL is an interesting one. Started by a kike freemason occultist who blew himself up and was cucked by his woman . lol.
>>473301028>They killed 8 million. Don't underestimate the cruelty of the nazis.Also hiroshima and Nagasaki were just firebombings. There are aerial shots of jesuits walking around ground zero and didn't suffer any side effects. They chalked it up to a miracle because they prayed fervently to Mary. It's Japan's version of the dancing Jews.
>>473294943surprised me to see that venus is just made out of basic bitch rocks and gravel just like everywhere on earth
>>473298355did they even have any control over the traveling in space or was it just a calculated trajectory they followed automatically without piloting?
>>473259536Russia never wanted to land on the Moon, just like it never wanted Kiev
>>473283555It’s not just a lost technology, companies, suppliers and subcontractors just don’t exist anymore, and all the engineers,technicians and machinists who built Apollo are either long dead or have been retired for decades. It’s the loss of the knowledge part, not just the blueprints.
>>473260022*Less>>473259536Because they are Russians
>>473301488it being completely fake, i don't suppose it matters much. but officially they just slingshot around the earf, fly off to the moon and hope gravity does something? Funny how they could send people to the moon and be successful each time but couldn't manage to land on mars after multiple attempts and much better technology.
>>473287882And Apollo 13 still brought the crew home safely.
>>473301604guys internet doesn't work anymore because the guy who invented it died and his old coworkers also died or forgot how they did it so we are unable to do it again
>>473268341A11 work no play makes anon a dull boy.
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>>473301839based kubed brick anon
>>473263851Almost every dog that has ever existed and will ever exist has not and will not die in space.
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>>473293038The Apollo Guidance Computer worked, and the same surplus units were used for NASA Fly by Wire testing in the 70’s.
>>473260022>He doesn't know
>>473301971I only just now realized that they look like they're being held up by wires.Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, but on the """moon."""
1976 movie about faking mars landing.
>>473301634fewer
>>473302204You have less brain cells than me mate
>>473294943Still an amazing lander. That’s not an image from a tv camera either. The lander took a photo, developed it, scanned it and transmitted it. All in an environment that is hotter than your oven, high pressure and an atmosphere of acid.
>>473302293x
>>473302393xoxo
https://youtu.be/ZNAHcMMOHE8?si=5QMtouK7B22LPrpJone of the first movies, 1902. about going to the moon.
>>473259536The USSR put the first man in space
>>473265109>Solzhenitsyn>A Russian Chauvinist and mysticist, pseudo fascist, known liar, denounced by his own wife as a scoundrel.>ask this guyYou people are worst than anti communist facebook mons.
>>473301302JPL originally was Jack Parsons Laboratories. Not Jewish or a Freemason. Then guy hung around with Aleister Crowley and L.Ron Hubbard, who stole his wife. Really a fascinating story.
>>473259536No niggers to help them. Didn't you know?Niggers built everything, invented everything, wuz everytang.
>>473300822Right, because making a movie on a movie set is really difficult, but putting humans through the van allen radiation belt in an aluminium craft isn't.
>>473301732Have you ever built anything from a blueprint with your own hands before? There’s a certain knowledge of how things are done that are not necessarily on the print. There’s dimensions and tolerances, but the Human side of the machine just isn’t there. By your logic, go make a tube radio. Yes, you can get the whole thing on a chip. But can you make either?
>>473283474They had several accidents and mishaps during the 1960s and 70s.
>>473301028>USA>WhiteI don't know how to tell you this, Jamal....
>>473303179>spacex>1960's - 70's> t. Mugumbo Singh Chong
>>473303136I can do anything you want me to do that's been done before if I had the resources of US government
