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what happens now?
https://www.13keystracker.com
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fuck you
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>strong short-term economy
>strong long-term economy
lol lmao kikes are a non-serious people
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>>475827476
I did the keys and it seems to favor Trump.
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The keys only have predictive value if you follow the methodology used in previous predictions
And by that previous methodology Harris is winning
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>>475827476
>strong short-term economy
>strong long-term economy
What planet do you live on?
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>>475827587
>>475828264
Key 5: The economy is not in recession during the election campaign
Key 6: Real per capita economic growth during the term equals or exceeds mean growth during the previous two terms
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>>475827921
I don't understand how these things are detemined.
>no scandal
Is a coup against the sitting US president and then selecting a nominee instead of having people vote for her not a scandal?
>no social unrest
Were those palestine riots not enough?
>uncharismatic challenger
Do they mean trump? Because I'm pretty sure that his biggest and maybe only selling point is how he draws the attention in any room to himself.
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>>475827921
>The keys only have predictive value if you follow the methodology used in previous predictions
correct. Kennedy polling between 4%-12%, similar to Perot in 96
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polling_for_United_States_presidential_elections
as for the scandal, it's the first time in history a president was forced from the ticket, after winning the primary, by his own party (thus rebuking Lichtman's claim that Biden's mental state was only an issue for Republicans)
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>>475828463
>Were those palestine riots not enough?
no because they lasted for only a single day. for example, in 1968 there were abundant flash-race riots, along with a huge riot in Chicago at the DNC.
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>>475828463
>no scandal
changing nominees because the president withdraws is not a scandal
he doesn't count the hunter stuff because it didn't go anywhere
>no social unrest
he doesn't consider palestine riots/protests enough. Ofc that key is subjective as to when does it become unrest but protests are not enough
>uncharismatic challenger
his meaning of charismatic is like JFK and Obama. again it's subjective but he's considered Trump uncharismatic in all his other predictions including in 2016
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>>475828580
>forced from the ticket
he withdrew on his own.
what is the scandal in that?
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>>475829240
He spend like 3 weeks denying that he would drop out until donors threatened to stop giving him money and his entire party told him to quit?
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>>475827476
>midterm gains
Can this be even applied this time?
Reps gained seats in the house but lost a seat in the senate, it's 50:50.
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>>475829301
what is the scandal in that?
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>>475829334
The coup is the scandal.
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>>475829331
He counts the House not the senate
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>>475829368
lol cope
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>>475829368
>Key 9: The incumbent administration is untainted by major scandal.
so they are tainted by the scandal that donors told him to withdraw and he did?
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>>475829450
>the democratically elected candidate has been ousted by megadonors and his own party and that's somehow a scandal?
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>>475829334
>president is perceived as capable, due to propaganda
>president suffers historic blunder, revealing he is incapable
>the president publically fights with his party and friendly media for an entire month, arguing over whether or not he is incompetent (mentally retarded)
>donors stop donating, campaign in free fall (because he's perceived as a retard)
Keep in mind that according to Lictman, Clinton getting a blowjob was a "scandal"

so do you consider the Biden scandal as equal or worse than Clinton getting a blowjob?
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>>475829548
>>475829788
dropping out is not a scandal no matter how much you try and make it one.
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>>475829548
Hunter's problems are more qualifiable as a scandal, Biden can't be blamed for his health problems and there is no clear line for when he is still capable of the function or not, him running for second term was the most favorable and safe option for dems so they went with it until they realized the truth too late.
Trump is also old and beginning to do mistakes too although not noticeable, would be funny if he won, his mental health went to shit and his voters were the ones defending a senile boomer.
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>>475830272
You're retarded
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>>475830272
you are braindead man
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>>475830272
According to that logic what bill clinton did was also not a scandal since he stepped down himself.
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>>475830398
>can't be blamed for his health problems
>can't be blamed
>can't be
>can't
yes he can be blamed, mostly for the coverup, along with all his supporters and the party potentates, plus their lackies in the media. the can and must be blamed for the greatest scandal in US history
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>>475830419
>>475830492
no one anywhere outside of this thread is calling it a scandal
what is the term for this scandal
"dropout gate" ?
morons
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>>475830272
The multi year cover up of the president’s retardation is the scandal, a level of retardation that they’ve known for years would disable him from serving a second term.
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>>475830562
no moron
>Key 9: The incumbent administration is untainted by major scandal.
Clinton was still the incumbent administration when Al Gore ran
How are you people so dumb?
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>>475830648
They're calling it a coup, because that's what it is.
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>>475830730
>The multi year cover up of the president’s retardation is the scandal
There's no proof that he covered it up and again it's not considered a scandal just because you think so.
I could say it's a scandal that he gives money to israel but it doesn't make it so
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>>475830794
>Clinton was still the incumbent administration
And biden was not the incumbent administration when he was ousted by his own party?
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>>475830648
>no one anywhere outside of this thread is calling it a scandal
>no one in the corporate media in service of the dems are calling it as it is
>the people who lied about his condition from the get-go, covering it up at every turn
imagine my shock shill
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>>475830807
Let's try again because you are ultra retarded
>Key 9: The incumbent administration is untainted by major scandal.
so the Biden administration is tainted by what?
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>>475830940
>And biden was not the incumbent administration when he was ousted by his own party?
he freudian slipped that Joepedo was never in control... next stop: he admits Joepedo was installed, not elected
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>>475827921
The methodology is pure astrology. Keys 4,5 and 6 all turn for Trump. Lichtmann was wrong in 2000 and 2016. He'll be wrong in 2024 as well.
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>>475830583
Refusal to give up power when appropriate is a very common thing, especially for boomers, but it's not a scandal. Our country went through the same shit few years ago. Can't wait for the same situation with old Trump.
>greatest scandal in US history
lol you're not even american
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>>475831044
Years of covering up his mental decline until his own party staged a coup and installed another puppet, forgoing the democractic process.
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>>475830940
Yes he's the incumbent administration
and what scandal is he tainted by you dumb fuck?
>ousted by his own party
how the fuck is that a scandal you retard??
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>>475831105
>lol you're not even american
luckily, you are... oh wait!
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>>475831139
You know what, I'm not drunk enough to sit here and argue with a paid shill why a coup is a scandal. Lets agree to disagree.
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>>475831008
the same could be said about the hunter stuff
Should it have been a major scandal? Yes
But it never left Fox News.
Littman is not predicting things based on what /pol/ thinks
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>>475830272
You keep saying he "dropped out" like it was his decision. That's simply not the case.
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>>475831180
At least I'm not defining the greatest scandal in the US history when I don't even live there you mongoloid
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>>475831096
He predicted 2016 for Trump
https://www.american.edu/media/news/092616-13-keys-prediction.cfm
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>>475831225
Let's say he was told by donors
It's still not a scandal and no one anywhere thinks it is
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>>475828433
>key 5
lol
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>>475831222
>But it never left Fox News.
tell me you are a leftard living in his leftard bubble without telling me so

>>475831269
so if I lived there, then I would be right? yes, every single person living in any given country has the same opinion on every single topic... because they liver there!!!
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>>475831324
It's a scandal for Biden's supporters who don't want Kamala running
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>>475831139
>and what scandal is he tainted by you dumb fuck?
ousted by his own party in a very public humiliation.
so Clinton getting a blowjob was a scandal, but this isn't?
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>>475831338
Officially it's not in a recession
If you think it is feel free to show that it is
I'm not saying the economy is great but then again the key isn't saying "just pick what you feel the economy is"
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>>475831470
The only thing that matters is what the voters think, not whatever spin the government is peddling at any given moment
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>>475831434
>so Clinton getting a blowjob was a scandal, but this isn't?
It's literally called the Lewinsky scandal.
What are we calling it? Dropoutgate?
The dropout scandal?
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>>475831222
the same can not be said about muh hunter biden.
Republicans think Biden is a retard
Democrats found out Biden was a retard, and pressured him from the ticket
>bipartisan?
yep
>"impropriety"
yep
>JOEVER
YUP

keep in mind Kennedy will get at least 5%, so this isn't even relevant
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>>475831562
well Lichtman doesn't use "what voters think" in his methodology
and guess what
you don't have to agree with his methodology you stupid fuck
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>>475831569
>Dropoutgate
nice name ngl. but it's called the entire media, donors, and party calling you a retard and pressuring you into submission (public humiliation)

but it isn't a scandal because there isn't a "bazinga" headline for it?
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>>475831470
honestly, i believe that you're a dane. only a dane can be so utterly fucking retarded not to be able to grasp that actual human beings don't eat up what the govt says because actual human beings navigate in life based on their own experiences e.g. groceries and fucking gas prices going thru the roof under Joepedo. but how could a collectivist scandinavian ever hope to understand the individualistic avg american?
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>>475831677
What voters think is the only thing that matters. Your tantrum is evident of this.
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>>475831580
being a retard is not a scandal according to Lichtman's methodology
as you can see in his 2004 prediction
https://www.socialstudies.org/system/files/publications/articles/se_6801009.pdf
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>>475831799
The scandal is both that he was senile and they attempted (unsuccessfully) to cover up his senility
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>>475831718
>human beings navigate in life based on their own experiences
Well apparently Litchman doesn't do that when making election predictions.
retard
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>>475831682
>but it's called the entire media, donors, and party calling you a retard
Him being an old retard is not a scandal
It's just him being an old retard.
If there was a key that said "is the incumbent an old retad" ? then it would be relevant
But the key is about a scandal.
and dropping out is not a scandal
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>>475828433
5 is true for now
6 is not true when inflation-adjusted, I don't believe that at all. Maybe if you do kike math for Trump's term and count the covid dip, but that is the only way. The covid bounce back was extreme and immediate so it doesn't count
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>>475831901
here's your Lichman
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>>475831984
>Maybe if you do kike math for Trump's term and count the covid dip
I looked that up once but i can't remember. But either way Lichtman use the official numbers.
Again you can disagree with that but that's his methodology and based on that key 6 is true.
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>>475829368

No one cares about that except for chuds who were already going to vote trump
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>>475832069
He said Biden can still win. I believe it.
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>>475831273
Trump lost the popular vote. Lichtman was wrong.
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>>475832207
It's foolhardy to replace Biden at this point. The party must unite behind him. He can still win.
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>>475831897
>being senile is a scandal
wow so many scandals in retirement homes
why are aboniggers allowed to have internet access?
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>>475832318
>Prof. Lichtman’s 13 Keys system predicts the winner of the presidential race, not the outcome of the popular vote
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>>475832185
This is BLM. >>475830807 This is not "chuds". This is the complete opposite on the political spectrum.
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>>475832382
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>>475831096
>>475831273

Either way, anyone who follows the economy knows that as far as the voting public is concerned, we’re in a recession. 4,5 and 6 have to be for Trump
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>>475832506
>
It's Joever
It's Hoever
They're Demo-lished
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>>475832598
I would tend to agree but that's not the methodology
If Lichtman sat down every year and said "what does the average person think about the economy" then maybe the keys would be different.
If that's a model you want to make then go ahead
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>>475832506
The Joevergate scandal
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>>475827921
>dementia-riddled president is kicked out at the last minute before the primaries
>no scandal
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>>475830648
i never post. fifteen years of pure lurking.
i have been incited to do so on account of your obtrusive retardation.
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>>475832347
Don't care still ridin' with Biden
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>>475828463
>Is a coup against the sitting US president and then selecting a nominee instead of having people vote for her not a scandal?
No because that's what everyone wanted. It's a correction to a no contest primary.
>Palestine riots
Where? College campus protests are not social unrest. No one really gives a shit. No one sees them except on fox news
>uncharismatic
This is a fair point but Trump is a shadow of himself.
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>>475829301
>>475829240
Republicans are desperate to make it a scandal because they are a dragged down by an actual coup attempt. I can understand how a Germ whose only exposure to Americans is /pol/ would fall for it.
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>>475827476
Trump wins. Kamala doesn't want to win and neither does her own party
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>>475830562
Bill Clinton didn't step down. He ejaculated in a woman's mouth and lied about it under perjury. This was a huge scandal in the 1990s when our standards were higher.
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>>475831677
”Lichtman cites the early 1990s recession as an example: the recession had ended in March 1991, but a Gallup poll in September 1992 found that 79% of respondents believed the economy was still in recession, turning the key false for George H. W. Bush.”
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>>475830583
>the greatest scandal in US history
lol you don't know anything about US history
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>>475833667
nobody but news brainrotted faggots thinks fucking a bitch is a scandal.
ill cum in your mouth too
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>>475831342
No one gives a shit about Hunter Biden except Fox News. He's right. We all know about it but no one cares.
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>>475833908
>t. Zoomer
It was. Wearing a bikini used to be scanadalous too. You'll never understand anything you didn't personally experience as a meme on 4chan.
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'fraid so
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>>475833324
>>475833544
>>475833667
>>475833826
>>475834140
>>475834271
>6 posts in 15 minutes
yeah I'm not reading your shit. It's okay if you support a coup, no matter how much they pay you, you are not convincing me
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I was a little kid and i saw the Lewinsky stuff on the Danish news.
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>>475834338
nobody cares what you think massreplying faggot, you're not voting anyway
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>>475833544
Your assasination attempt failed so hard it took out the wrong president
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>>475834456
If nobody cared then the nigger wouldn't reply to me 3 fucking times in 5 minutes.
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>>475834338
Are you that bothered by learning?
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>>475831562
>The only thing that matters is what the voters think, not whatever spin the government is peddling at any given moment
but they think the economy is great. That's why they are spending as if the economy was great because it is. But half of them have to say it's bad because they can't admit demonrat Joe PedoBiden and Laughing Kamala did something good. US economy is in great shape by all objective and even subjective measures (customers behavior)
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Lichtman
>The scandal key is true because some retards on 4chan thinks dropping out of an election is a scandal
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>>475834738
Learning would imply that there is information to be learned. You are spouting rapidfire propaganda at me hoping I somehow completely ignore my position on things and adopt yours. I'm not interested. Shit like
>Is a coup
>No because that's what everyone wanted
Is not information, it's gaslighting. Biden was democratically elected. Biden was the one who won the nomination of his party. Kamala was installed after biden was ousted. Not by voters, but by people in power. If you held a vote it might very well be that the result would've been the same, but at least it would've been according to the will of the people, not the will of the political elites.
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>>475834891
American elections are decided by American normies. I'm the closest you're going to get.
>yeah I'm not reading your shit.
You don't have to lie on an anonymous chat board.
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>>475834891
>Kamala was installed after biden was ousted
Biden is still the president he's just not running for reelection
Kamala is running for president when she gets nominated at the convention which she will because the entire party is backing her
And Biden will be honored at the same convention as the 2nd greatest president of all time (after Obama)
Not a scandal
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>>475834891
You're not supposed to ask questions like "shouldn't we let the voters pick Harris instead of Biden?" and "should the white house doctor be prosecuted for covering-up biden's dementia?"
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>>475835130
not in lichtman's 13 keys
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>>475835130
>shouldn't we let the voters pick Harris instead of Biden?
but they are okay with that. Only republicans have a problem with this change because their only strategy for this election was saying how old biden is 24/7
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>>475834891
Many of your basic facts are wrong. You don't have to like how Biden went out but some of these things haven't even happened.
>Biden was democratically elected.
In 2020. Primary nomination jasnt happened.
>Biden was the one who won the nomination of his party.
He was given free beardth to run unopposed as the incumbent but he was not nominated. They happens at the convention. He has dropped out, under pressure, but he has dropped out.
>Kamala was installed after biden was ousted. Not by voters, but by people in power. If you held a vote it might very well be that the result would've been the same, but at least it would've been according to the will of the people, not the will of the political elites.
This is a fair point but Kamala Harris received every vote Joe Biden did. She has the most democratic legitimacy to win the nomination of anyone. Someone else could still win the nomination but no one has the support in place. Democrats failed to have other options because they're incompetent, but that doesn't change the reality now.
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>>475834271
you could work on your modes of rhetoric devices
t.zoomer or whatever
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>>475835328
Hold on to your tiny little shithole pole, cuz Putin is going to nuke you next.
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>>475832598
>anyone who follows the economy knows that as far as the voting public is concerned, we’re in a recession
meds
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>>475833324
Faggot are you seriously implying what America has wanted for 10 years now hasn't been to see Trump vs Bernie?

You want to seriously claim that the Democratic party hasn't fucked over their constituents and put through their own candidates, completely disregarding their will?
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>>475835666
>Key 14: did america get the match up they wanted to see you faggots?
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>>475835525
kek
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>>475835666
Bernie is for reddit communists. He's also not running for president.
No, the democratic party didn't fuck over its constituents. Joe Biden did by running in the first place. He didn't coup himself out. He got too old and demented to keep the party.
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>>475827476
Sorry chuds, but everyone knows now that Kamala is brat she's going to do a clean sweep. This is the current map once Drumpf is found guilty for all of his crimes. With Prosecutor Harris leading the charge, no amount of Israeli dick sucking can save Drumpf from imprisonment.

Drumpfy boy better start getting ready for prison. No more McDonalds for you Mr. Drumpf! But be sure to bend over for Tyrone and his gang as they give you their black votes in the shower. LOL!
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>>475836018
Except that every time that he ran for primaries, he was winning until they fucked him over. In 2016 with super delegates, and in 2020 using COVID as an excuse to shut down the primaries.

The democratic party has super delegates. That is the most oligarchic thing I have ever heard of. Faggot shills like you are the reason you can't get a simple government health insurance in Muttland.
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>>475827476
https://x.com/AllanLichtman/status/1816847990566666389

The guy who made this flat out said Harris is heavily favored to win

Also most people don’t understand the keys at all. They think No Third Party = literally no third party candidate running at all, when in reality it means no third party polls consistently at 10% or more, which would poise them to take 5% or more of the popular vote. Charismatic doesn’t mean the candidate has a fanbase, it means they are universally praised by both parties. And so on
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>Key 15: does the incumbent party have super delegates (the most oligarchic thing I have ever heard of)
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>>475836097
good bait, checked
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>>475836593
Some people seem to think you just stick what ever opinion you have in the keys
they are too low IQ to understand the concept of methodology
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>>475836814
You can shove your math and methodology tricknology up your asshole. I really don't give a fuck about it.
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>>475836814
What's your metric for "strong short term economy"? Because people on the streets can't afford to buy groceries or a home.
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the danish lichtman defender thinks this thread is its blog, again
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>>475837118
He literally defines it as “no recession, or widespread perception of a recession”

Wikipedia is your friend
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>>475837118
People on the streets don't vote.
>>475837222
I like him. He's funny.
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>>475837222
>the danish lichtman defender
where did i defend him?
i'm telling you to use his methodology
If you don't want to then fine don't but then why argue over his model?
Make your own model
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>>475837608
But aren't we in a recession and a massive inflation crisis. So how in the fuck does this chart show the economy as blue.? Doesn't this show the author lives in a fantasy or am I completely retarded here?

>>475837612
>People on the streets don't vote.
Who votes then? Dead Democrats? Illegal immigrants?
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>>475837612
By people on the streets I mean normal people you square.
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>>475827587
Were doing great here in America. At least me me and most all my friends and family.
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>>475831470
>Key 5: The economy is not in recession during the election campaign
>Key 6: Real per capita economic growth during the term equals or exceeds mean growth during the previous two terms

>Officially it's not in a recession
Thats some literal pic related tier retardation.
So as long as you don't have some kike admitting that the economy is in shambles, 1929 would've been just another year.
As long as nobody actually steps out and admits "shit's on fire yo!" or "the emperor has no clothes!", and obviously truthful statement that everyone who has functioning eyes can observe and verify for themselfes, everything is doing fine, thats your logic?

The only one who's doing great in this economy are 0.1% rich jewish assholes, and maybe 60+yo boomers, because their McMansion (that they bought 40 years ago for 2 dimes, a sack of onions, and a warm handshake) went up another few thousand in value this moring while they were out golfing.
Inflation has been stuck at like 30%/year for the past 4 years.
I don't give a fuck what "official stats" say about that. Average Normie Joe doesn't notice inflation by looking at some statistic published by the government or some financial institution.
They notice inflation by... you know... looking at the actual price tags in the stores when he goes grocery shopping.
And there prices have literally 2-3x'ed in the last 4 years, while wages havent.
There was a Tiktok trend a few weeks ago where people find old orders on their Wallmart app or some shit from like 2019 or 2020, and when they press the "order again" button in the app, the bill suddenly jumps from $100 to $300 for the exact same quantity of products.
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>>475838088
>But aren't we in a recession
Officially the US is not in a recession
A recession is two quarters of negative GDP growth
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>>475838529
on one hand i agree that the numbers might be fake but at the same time then these fake numbers are the same fake numbers you got under the other presidents.
Unless you think they invented new Biden numbers.
It's possible that there would be a better way to measure the economic effect on voting than using GDP
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>>475838529
>as you don't have some kike admitting that the economy is in shambles
This, exactly this.



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