Russian forces have now capture the city of Krasnohorivka.
>>475877818But at what cost?
WOW...that is a MEGA happening for sure!>citylmao
>>475877818Nothing ever happens
>>475877818THE Crusty Horlika?!
>>475877818whats that green area then?
>>475877885another 100 billions from us
Rotate 480 degrees along the z axis uncrop, rotate, zoom in on that window and enhance, enhance, enhance sector D5.There it is. Tell Boagrius to break camp we're going to Egypt.
>>475877818Incorrect. The resident /pol/ finngolians told me Ukraine is winning.
>>475877818SHYIT!
>>475878049denotes the recently taken piece. turns red on tomorrow's map
>>475877818I don't know where that is, can you elaborate on why it matters? Besides advancing of course, but what's the deal with that city in particular?
>>475878399Ukaine is winning
>>475878049PvE area
>>475878789It was a frontline city for 10 years and fell to the Russians in 4 months. This is big because it means the pace of their advances will increase after taking the city.
>>475879619What are they winning
>>475879678The race to become a province of Russia.
>>475879642>It was a frontline city for 10 years >and fell to the Russians in 4 months.You don't see a problem with this statement?
>>475879678An increasingly higher chance to become asylum seekers to Canada, seemingly the dream of every non-Canadian that can't make it into the US.
>>475877818I can't wait for Ukraine to lose and all the losers who love them so much to cry about it
>>475880291seeing as many ukrainian refugees as jeets now. my spider sense is strongly telling me to get the fuck out of this country
>>475880273No, the Russians only tried taking the city after the fall of Marinka and Avdiivka
I honestly couldn't believe Ukraine kept the Russians from Kiev as long as they did. Years later when I see a post like this I'm just mindblown. Seeing the mighty Russian military get it's shit kicked in by a podunk army with a handful of Western weapons was really something. But now I'm afraid of what Ukraine may become. They are the ones that built the armaments that Russia is losing to begin with. Like picrel which as embarrassing as this was, was also built by the people who sunk it. What's worse is that it was sunk by a missile. Proving Russian missile doctrine and "parity" claims against the US navy. By sinking the Russian flagship in the Black Sea.Now they've reduced Russian propagandists to bragging over towns in an asymmetrical war. One that will not be over for a decade now that Ukraine is fully armed and continuing to develop weapons programs.
>>475877818So how long till they win?
>>475880387This. I just want to see the fuckers cry.
>>475883037Two more weeks.
>>475878049the Shrek Zone
>>475877818Now is Krasbogorovka hohol
>the russians are shelling themselveswow, very cool
>>475884136I see no problem with thjs
>>475877818> city> population 14666 souls (2022)SUPER ULTRA MEGA HAPPENINGMajor Ukrainian city is fallen according to Russian MoD. That's bigger that Kiev.Also they've destroyed 100000 Abrams in process and killed 20 billions of Nazi
>>475885338lol you realize those F16s are never arriving. Right?
>>475878063more like from us
>>475885848I do. So what? It's not "invincible wunderwaffe" anyways, we need them for different reason.And how is this related to CRAZY advancement for 5 km during 3 years to capture major glorious city Krasnogorivka?
>>475886258>we need them for different reason.suicide 9/11 style attacks on Moscow skyscrapers?
>>475877940>they aren't winning fast enough!
>>475886608Lol, are you from different planet or something?
>>475886258>dude it's just one irrelevant village we didn't want anywayWake up Mykola, your military is collapsing
I'm gonna be very surprised if this war carries on into 2025.
>>475887398spoiler: it'll carry on until 2027
>>475887287Yes, heard this a lot in last 2 years. Are you retarded?Russians capturing shit (area-wise) ever since Summer 2022. And yet, you are like 1000th guy who are trying to convince me that Ukrainian army is collapsing now, huge encirclements are coming and so on. >>475887398It will be if one of the sides will still be waging war with it's head up it's ass
>>475877818>captured literal whereskreminder that british warehouses are valid military targets
>>475882064They pulled out all of their ships from their important Sevastopol harbor. Keeping access to that harbor was probably one of the main reasons they invaded Crimea to begin with. But they got their asses kicked by a country with no navy, just a bunch of RC boats with dynamite in them. It shows us two things, that the russian navy is a joke and that all navies need to rethink their fleets.
>>475888130It doesn't matter what you believe, bro. Even your own mappers are showing daily Russian advances all along the front. Maybe you should go down and tell your troops that this is a stalemate, they don't seem to realize it
>>475877818For fucks sake so what
>>475882064you either run out of people or weaponsukraine has infinite weapons, so they will hold ground until they run out of people, which was always the planblitzkrieg doesnt work anymore because of live satellite data etc
>>475886216yes, from us
>>475889154The problem for russia is that they are fighting a pointless war in a foreign country. Most russians might "support" the war on paper, but most russian surely doesn't want to be sent to die in Ukraine. Defenders always have an advantage. Both russia and Ukraine are struggling with a population crisis already, this idiotic war is making it worse in both countries.
>>475878049It means that all the quests and collectable items have been completed in that area.
>>475885338>Krasnohorivka never mattered anyways!!!11!1jej, like clockwork
>>475889874wars like this need a precision strike on the defenders leadershipsurely russia can kill zelensky? why dont they?
>>475877818If Russia were winning, the spam would be unnecessary.
>>475889087I'm watching video of our troops, BTW. They are also saying that it's practically stalemate. Snail-tempo advancement by them are possible, that's why it's not "perfect stalemate". But it's the big question who's army is more comfortable with this situation.You do realize that you are showing 150x150 km area of a map? Like 2 hours in a car from top to bottom?You do realize that most of the picture is Ukrainian controlled territory? Like more than 50%?And you do realize that there is almost as much green on the map as light red?>>475890270Because it didn't. There are several strategically important pieces of the territory lost (Avdiivka, for example), but nobody gives a shit about Krasnogorivka in particular
>>475890720>but nobody gives a shit about Krasnogorivka in particularIt's literally one of the oldest battlegrounds of the Ukrainian civil war going back to 2015. This is some unbelievable cope
>>475890958The cope is pretending anything short of total steamrolling reflects well on Russia at this point. They were clearly always just a fake boogeyman for defense contractors. Their war performance has been pathetic for a country that calls itself a superpower.
>>475891254You think a USA vs Iran fight would go any better than the Russia vs Ukraine fight?
>>475879678fertilizer
>>475877818They still haven’t entered Kiev yet?How many days have passed for this 2-day Special Military Operation?
>>475877818Why the fuck is this war taking so long? Ukraine's veteran forces were destroyed early in the war. Whatever left are draftees, old men, retards, whatever zelensky can scrape up from the bottom of society.Yet the ruskies are fucking stuck and grinding down. I wouldn't be surprised if there are no Ukrainian forces left and what's fighting is just americans/french/Whatever dressed up In ukrainian uniforms.
>>475891254Put any army in the Russian military's place and you would get more less the same result.Drone warfare has changed warfare in such a way that heavy casualties and losses are inevitable in a modern conflict regardless of the relative superiority of one's military technology. Their ability to provide real-time reconnaissance information and their ability to strike and destroy multi-million dollars worth of equipment with only $5k worth of weaponry is as much of a dramatic shift in combat as the introduction of the gun onto the battlefield way back when.
>>475891931most nafo mercs are in kharkivthey still have millions of holhols and holholinas to throw into the meat grinder.
>>475892037>$5k worthGot an extra 0 in there.>>475877818>Based on 2001 census, it has a population of 16,714.
>>475891931Oh lol. Just go youtube, and find any casual modern videos from Ukrainian streets, beaches and so on. And start counting how many average-age men you can see in 10 minutes."But they are all Hollywood actors that are pretending to be Ukrainian males!!!"
>>475892037in ukraine it mostly has made conventional artillery even more deadly. Hasn't really changed the playing field. this is still a conventional war, even if jews try very hard to make it some sort of insurgency.
>>475892037Nah, the US armed forces would have been able to rush Kyiv at the start of the war. But a major mistake russia did was to only partially invade in 2014, when the Ukrainian forces were in shambles. After the partial 2014 invasion, the AFU has been trained in western military tactics.
>>475890277He is nothing but a figurehead. Killing him changes nothing.
>>475892337The higher dollar ones like the Shahed or the Lancet, but there are drones out there taking out armored vehicles with nothing but an artillery shell/RPG round attached to the bottom of prosumer-grade Chinese drones.
>>475892413>Random civilians are "ukrainian forces"oddly stupid and yet right on target for how ukraine sees their own people.
>>475892413This doesn't change the fact that you guys have taken massive casualties and there are gangs of secret police kidnapping guys all the time. Russia won't win, but the war has come at a huge cost for your society.
>>475892593I see 4 pounds of plastic strapped to the bottom of a FPV take armor pretty regularly. Early on they were getting surplus 1945 grenades into hatches all day long. Most of the US ground fleet would get smoked in Ukraine by drones. They've cheered the Bradly and the MRAP, and that's about it, and even there, only for keeping crew alive, not necessarily for useful vehicle afterwards.
>>475886706First this and now with Kamala, why are shills like this?
>>475892471Are you kidding? A single Russian solider was able to take out an entire battalion of Ukranian soliders with his bomblet dropping drone before he was either killed or he disappeared to avoid being killed. HIs name was Uday and he had a Telegram channel where he tracked each and every casualty he inflicted; it' s not up for debate. And he's not the only operator out the doing such a thing. Both sides have these types of drone pilots. The number of causalities that a single pilot can inflict on the battlefield these days is bordering on the absurd.What's happening on the battlefield right now is unprecedented in warfare; it's something that only happens once every so often in human history. And like the advent of the gun, it's only going to get worse from here. I foresee fully autonomous suicide drone swarms using AI to lock onto human targets being rolled out on the battlefield within the next decade.
>>475893049When you're holding a 5 to 1 advantage in population, and a 20 to 1 resource capacity (and something like 99-1 GDP) you really should not be bogged within a day's walk from your own border.
>>475892663>gangs of secret police kidnapping guys all the time>the war has come at a huge cost for your societyYes>you guys have taken massive casualtiesHow about no? Because I'm kind of immune to all these "million Ukrainian troops are dead, believe me!"
>>475893146majority of holhol losses are still by conventional artillery and airpower like 90%+
>>475893236Sorry, 10 to 1 GDP.
>>475893467ukraine gdp is lower than nigerias. most of ukraine gdp is funded by western welfare.
>>475893236You left out the 100s of billions of dollars worth of funding and equipment that Ukraine has received. Combined with the entirety of NATO's information apparatus helping to ensure the Ukrainian military can remain as much of a pain in the ass to the Russian military as possible, it's no surprise things have played out as they have. Ukraine is not operating alone, not by a long shot.
>>475877818Who cares. This "war" is about burning dollars to kill ruzzians it doesn't matter what happens to the piggers wo live there
>>475877818Population: 16,714 (2001)
>>475877818But... /k/ told me it was a stalemate.
>>475893426Most of which are using drone spotters to assist them in their shot placement. That is not conventional warfare, that's drone-assisted warfare.
>>475893364I never said a million. But many dead and injured. Along with captured, fled, and so forth. Lots of casualties. I won't give a number because there is no way it would be accurate.
>>475882064>Like picrel which as embarrassing as this was, was also built by the people who sunk it.that was fucking epic, the once mighty blacksea fleet has been castrated other than shooting cruiser missiles way way back from ukraine is all they do.... if even that anymore.... at first then I thought they have given ukraine nsms and not stating it, but no this was a new domesticly produced new modern missile the ukranians had made it was going to be delivered first that summer in 2022 this neptune
>>475894014this is what I said originally>in ukraine it mostly has made conventional artillery even more deadlyit is still conventional warfare. people have been using drones since ww1.
>>475893972slow as fug... and now everyone is tense given the uncertainty of what a change i us leadership is actually going to dofuck this shit, fucking idiot moscow
>>475877818Wauw a tiny village of 16k inhabitants pre war fell to the mighty Russia in a period of.... half a year!
>>475877940if you had any clues about the movement of the frontlines during ww1 or ww2 you woudld know how to properly weigh this happening instead you just displayed your ineptitude and quick tempered instinct driven nature
>>475891481Depends on the objective. Every single nuclear era war comes off as just a revenue scheme for the MIC with some policy goals secondary. Iran would probably be like Afghanistan or Iraq where the government would fall fast but there'd be a long occupation that required more contracts for cronies of the politicians.
>>475893972>1 village for thousands of dead RussiansRussia can't keep this up
>>475893364I don't get why people in the anglosphere are falling so hard for russian propada.. it still astonishes meI get they don't understand and don't share a border with them and all.. I want to just hit my head in the walls sometimes watching them go
>>475877818We really do not care.Very little actual combat kino.Cherry picked drone footage and dropping grenades on POWs are not kino.
>>475894146The problem with the word "many". How many are we talking about? I'm thinking about more or less conservative values of 50+k dead Ukrainian soldiers.That's a lot! But for a huge multi-million country...Same with Russian 150+k dead. Enormous numbers comparing to any modern war, but in general...
>>475877818Oh wow! That's at least a dozen blocks! Winning!
>>475894520WW2 was the last war where horses were prominent. It's movies and other media that give the impression of a mechanized modern war, if such a thing can be said to even exist.
>>475894247What occurred during WWI is not even remotely the same. Artillery was never meant to be placed directly into the goddamn trenches as is happening these days. It would take a lucky shot to get one in there back in the day. Now, it only takes two or three volleys to get it lined up damn near perfectly with the aid of drone spotters. This is drone-assisted warfare using conventional artillery; this is by no means a conventional war. The Russians are sending out groups of soldiers on off-road motorcycles to storm front line defenses, how is that conventional? They're not doing that to avoid artillery strikes, but to avoid being droned to death. In a conventional war everyone would pile into the APC; do that these days and you're going to get a drone through the doors.It may look conventional on the outside. Sure there are trenches, artillery, tanks, and the like; but this war is anything but conventional.
>>475882064Are you on drugs like other Nato leadership lmao? > weapon factories inside ukrWhy the fuck? Their energy grid is constantly bombed along any place that munition gets made. Why would anyone make in Ukr, its easier to get from any border or other western country. Almost all naval actions were carefully handpicked and done by US / UK intelligence. Ukraine only held the end responsibility but they had no means themselves to disrupt Russian naval activity. Their navy also suffered from infiltration disproportionally compared to other units which made such operations also possible.
>>475893364>>475894717btw in norway we don't got this weird "right" crap that falls for this shit. but what we do have here, is the old communist hardliners and they spout crap. it's been alot of drama with those, they are fighting between them selves I grab my popcorn and laugh at them while they gothoes are few btw very very very few. so you have this populist far left party called the reds and they have had all sorts of internal fight over this an expelled several key figures for supporting russian agressionhere is their former looser leader caught fucking stealing sunglasses at the airport. what a piece of human feces
>>475877818Just in time to make weapons for the middle east. Russia can't stop winning
>>475877818>city of KrasnohorivkaWhat do they make there?
>>475894991please from wiki:Conventional warfare is a form of warfare conducted by using conventional weapons and battlefield tactics between two or more states in open confrontation. The forces on each side are well-defined and fight by using weapons that target primarily the opponent's military. It is normally fought by using conventional weapons, not chemical, biological, radiological, or nuclear weapons
>>475894784>more or less conservative values of 50+k dead Ukrainian soldierslmfao
>>475894784fucking awfull, the thing is we will never know until aftergod damn that fucking putin thunberg piece of shit
>>475894784Alright, I'll throw out a number. 70K killed and wounded for each side. I have no proof of that but it wouldn't surprise me if that was true.
>>475894717Because it's half trillion spent for no purpose orher than enriching campaign contributors and providing welfare jobs to voters. Kharkiv isn't worth dying over, just move like the Armenians. No no, got to have men die so some American Podunk resident can get paid building tools that get blown up and the company making them had their stock price go up. The USA has sanctions on 3 of the top 5 oil producers. There's no possible peace, and just by coincidence Exxon HAS to get record profit? The whole thing is corrupt to the core.
>>475885338i didnt think it was a big deal until i saw this post, a ukrainian flag coping
>>475893364also believe it or not... even now the reds want norway out of nato... I give up with these brainwashed zombies . typically they are actually rich snobs living in western oslo, champagne socialists... bunch of rotten people that never had to struggle for anything in life. I absolutely detest these rotten people
>>475895128Checked on wikipedia and 95% of the page is about the current conflict, 5% was when it was founded and population before. They did make a painter at some point.
>>475878063>>475886216>>475889674kek
>>475890644if spam were winning, the Russia would be unnecessary.
>>475892413kiev looks like a ghost town compared to other cities for the alleged population of 3 million.
>>475895418this is such null and void talking points, what we are dealling is a soverign country defending it self from an agressor that btw was supposed to be it's protectorand yes the arms industry is ofc going to profit from this, because it's fucking war.and yes ukraine suffered from absolute extreme corruption those skank oligarchs which btw are russian .. it's a scourge of the former east in general. i dunno today but take ie bulgaria it was so fucking bad that denmark refused them to join the eu over and over again, basically a corrupt mafia running the entire countrythat is still not a valid reason for putin go invade.. and it won't stop he want's empire back
>>475895540You're just caught up in a narrative and those people you call commie have the luxury of seeing things with a wider perspective. There aren't even total sanctions on Russia because they have too many resources that are used in the consumer economy. Politics could be used to actually isolated Russia and allies, but corporate capitalists won't decouple from China. Instead of these half assed for profit wars, we could actually have united objectives. The Ukrainian refugees have been absorbed into European workforce, preventing the type of increase in worker value commies would want to see.
btw do you guys know this statue in murmansk?"the protector in the north" gives me creeps this is their delusions is part long propgandaas if russia/soviet somehow was the protector of the nordics... just fucking no... go back home
>>475886706>2.5 years at war with the Mexico of Europe>spamming mobiks into the grinder the whole time>thousands of videos of Russian tanks and troops being droned and exploded by minesRetard.
>>475895150not disagreeing with you but we have seen hohols use chemical weapons unironically, /uhg/ even posts videos of them dropping gas bombs on russians, the one from the russian's helmet POV and they start yelling "gas gas gas!" and the dude in the front went down and started foaming at the mouth
>>475896292you conveniently left out that mexico has the combined financial and material support of the biggest military alliance in history
>>475895302What's wrong?It is not exact numbers, but the approximate estimates. And they really help with understanding how the war is going,Also social connections here helps a lot. If you can gather like 100-200 of "male friend-of a friend" and realize that out of them are like 5 soldiers, 0 dead and 2 wounded you can lean on that personal statistics a bit.Not exact science, but comparing to "Ukraine is out of male and conscripting 16 yo"...>>475895399There are some databases for each side that dont go well with your estimate. What is more important, for Ukrainian side it's not that big of a difference, so still can be true. But for Russia... https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/11/casualties_eng
>>475896433mexico of europe**
>>475896003A country is just a legal entity that is recognized by other legal entries. Ukraine as a legal entity doesn't need to exist for Ukrainian people to exist. There could be some Congress of Vienna type meeting where that region is divided up along referendum decided borders or something, but just by coincidence we get the timeline where some corporation gets massive subsidies to resolve nothing.
>>475877818>city>2022 population estimate 14,666Are you aware that the Ukrainian word misto can refer to localities that are actual cities but that there's also a misto with a population below 1000? This is the problem with blind one-to-one translations. I mean, you can translate misto as city, but these places are not cities in the English meaning of the word city. You need to take into consideration the size of the place when you translate. If not, you end up calling a place with a population of 900+ a city. Bakhmut had a pre-war population of 75,000 and it's huge in comparison with other places Russia has captured since. In English, Bakhmut I guess would be classified as a small town. Krasnohorivka at a fifth of the size is not even a town, really. Every working day I walk from end to end of the part of the city I live in, and the population in that limited area alone is higher than that of Krasnohorivka.
>>475896003>soverign countrylmao look at this retard who thinks ukraine is "sovereign" lol its the exact opposite
>>475896334ww1 was also conventional, but they used gas.
>>475877818>Krasnohorivkalol who the fuck cares about this place wow
>>475896629they didn't need it anyway
>>475896012>You're just caught up in a narrative and those people you call commie have the luxury of seeing things with a wider perspective. lol no. btw so this party have gone through several permutations they were orginal actual communists. we had two parties so you still have the old NKP(norwegian communist party) is more or less defunct, those were directly controlled by the kremlinthese guys they claim they were not, and went through many permutation today is really a far left populist party. it's mostly snobs from the rich part of oslo and journalists and so that vote for them, basically they hardly can get people in parliamentthis champagne socialist shit is a very real thing, going by the media(which is all state funded here btw), you would think this is one of norway's mayor parties, but it's not... kremlin ofc still praises them
>>475896606true but WW1 lead to rules being made on how to not conduct warfare like niggers
>>475896583"""international law""" is going down the shitter obviously just like the preun before ww2god knows what happens next anon...
>>475896758>conduct warfare like niggers>war mostly fought by whites>like niggers
>>475895150What is considered to be a conventional 'weapon' is a matter of opinion. My opinion is that drones used in this fashion are not apart any military convention. In fact, drone warfare is still rapidly developing in real-time on the battlefield, how can it be conventional?. Maybe once the technology has fully matured in another decade or so.You said drone warfare has not changed the playing field. That's a ridiculous statement, both sides have had to shift their tactics specifically to counter drone warfare. The 24/7 verticality, as it's being called, is something no military has had to deal with before. Turtle tanks built to resist multiple drone strikes, motorcycle-based storm troopers, drone warfare camera footage being wielded as propaganda. None of this is conventional, it has never been apart of a major war therefore it's not conventional. Falling back on Wikipedia like you're the expert only further solidifies your inability to process what you are perceiving directly. A convention is the way in which something is usually done, and when what is usually done doesn't work anymore and you have to shift to a new way that new way is no longer fucking conventional. For fuck sakes man.
>>475896477I doubt 100K on both sides has been reached yet. But tens of thousands, definitely. That's why I gave the 70K number. I have no way of knowing the truth. But this was a blunder for Russia and they have lost an insane amount of people that they never thought they would lose.
>>475877818>city guy that photo looks the size of my neighborhood.
>>475894784>we have a 3:1 kd despite our opponent having an active air force and a massive artillery advantage>we also closed our borders and forcibly draft civilians for years while our opponent doesn'tThe cope is insane and explains well how the war can continue. As long as you're not the one being drafted yet you will always think you're winning.
>>475896758absolutely trueeven the actual nazis didn't ie just sarin gas all of england even though they had so much of it
>>475888130>>475896433>you conveniently left out that mexico has the combined financial and material support of the biggest military alliance in historyPut this on the grave of every dead Russian.The ones who have graves, that is. Most of them are rotting under the summer sun.It's funny you retards kvetched about America's losses in muh wars for Israel for 20 years and then cope constantly about all the dead and dismembered Russians and their assorted mercenaries that this gigakiked war of Slav against Slav that Jewtin could end at any time and still have more land than he had at the start.
>600k rusniggers dead for thisAt this rate, Russia will be void of life before reaching the outskirts of Kherson.
>>475877885The Nato estimate, that they mentioned at the Nato summit is 350.000 dead and wounded.Modern warfare got a rate of 10 to 17 wounded pr dead, but since this is heavy artillery warfare and Russia got a bad medical system for the wounded it's more like 7 wounded pr dead. Meaning that the us estimate of 50k dead by match of this year is the most realistic.
>>475877818What the fuck is a Hrasnohoriifka?
>>475896947anon I hardly follow your politics at all, sometimes I read dr and berlienske rarely. but do you got a party like rødt there that actually sort of support russia and want you out nato? or is that non existent in denmark?
>>475877940>>475877818>another case of IT'S NOT IMPORTANT while panic deleting all of the old tweets of how the piggies will save the same TOTALLY IMPORTANT placeTOP KEK>>475877885at cost of more ukraine men piggies
>>475896848is artillery still killing most people? yes.drones are getting better from ww1, just like tanks got better after ww2.> is something no military has had to deal with before. lmfao. China had to reform its military after the gulf war. militaries do this all the time. its still a state vs state war, its conventional. please....
>>475877818Um wrong you stupid fucking orc. They havent even touched the entire northern part of the village. How many rubles is Russia paying you to spew their propaganda?
>>475896947>>475897104so let me try to explain rødt a bit, so they are far left populist. meaening they latch onto you know stuff regular people care about... that's what a populist is anyways.. but their motives are sinister... basically luring people in that aren't wiser
>>475897305Well, I think we can leave it at that. There's no need to debate over semantics.
>>475897060Ru MOD reports 95%+ wounded survive.
>>475897104Non-existent. Everyone sucks Anglo-American (Jewish) cock when it comes to media and politicians.The people support NATO as long as we basically have to do nothing Kek. If it looks like WW3 however I think people will wake up to the fact that being neutral doesn't sound bad but it's not like we can exit NATO to be honest. America will be mad.
pretty much 99.99999% of norwegians supports ukrainesigh but we are such a tiny country, so in the bigger schemes of thing is not much we can do other than give some of our hightech military equipmentand the idiots have more or less abolished our military since the cold war, I was shocked to realize how fucking bad it is now.... it's like 1 in 6 or something serves, it used to be all fucking men
>>475896844yes
>>475877885Ukrainians were defending it to the last man because it’s their most reliable logistics hub. They’ll have to either resupply on rails through Russian occupied territory or drive through heavily fortified and surveilled no mans landA lot more western gifts are going to be blown to smithereens before they reach the Hohol front
>>475897782niggers can't even produce mustard gas
>>475897636media here is so fucking bad now, it's such low qualitty, so you have these actual experts on russia and geopolitics and so openly joking about itthat they couldn't have their actual disqussion on norwegian media.. I don't know where to begin with this anon.. basically you have to go elsewhere here. it's not like don't have competent people in this here...
>>475897638If you support them so badly then go volunteer. None of you will? As expected.As soon as conscriptions is reintroduced because a great war looks inevitable you will all be pro-peace instead of warmongers because it's not going be some random people in some shithole you don't care about who will die.
>>475877818Ohhhhh nooooooo not the ukerinooooos, quick here's some leftover firecrackers i have and uuuuhhh do you accept paysafe or credit card?
>>475877885cheaper than the alternative
>>475896898On Ukrainian side - possibly. You can analyze open data, and kind of figure out possible number. I saw name-by-name list online and it was like 40k dead if I recall correctly. So that's your lower estimate. For higher estimate you need to analyze everything - from videos from frontline to personal stories about MIA.Another thing which is "funny" - we had this huge siege of Mariupol with civilians trapped inside. We had multiple videos and satellite images with mass graves from there - from one side of horizon to another. And of course civilians are dying every day even now.What's I'm saying - there is very possible scenario that there are more civs deaths than military deaths for Ukraine. But it's truly impossible to count.For Russia - 60k of name-by-name dead. It's not physically possible that dead and wounded count is 70k for them. It should be way above 100k if Russia is evacuating at least some wounded. And they do.
>>475882064>a handful of Western weaponskek
>>475896798corporations are more powerful than governments now and dont play by the same rules
>>475897847still white men gassing each other and stabbing each other with bayonets for banker jews' enjoyment is kinda nigger tier
>>475895499But they always cope so its no different than yesterday>>475890270But the next city matters so much since the russians don't have it yet, we need another few billion!>>475882064Russia isn't as strong as they pretended to be, but lets not pretend the USA wasn't btfo'ed out of the red sea by a weaker nation than ukraine.>>475883037two moar>>475890720Ahh yes, the retreating stalemate, real cool bro.>>475894645>Ruzzia can't keep this upIts been like 3 years, russia can clearly keep this up for as long as it takes.They are retarded but know how to keep going.
also burp what still pissed of to this day, how terrible us media have become in particular this. nonsense russarussiarussiarussia bullshit because it was herturn lost the fucking election sigh they just kept on spouting bullshitso before the invation.. and us intelligence went, it's going to blow they will invade NOW!!! they have manage to cause the situation that nobody fucking believed anything they said... I still tare my hair out over this.... obvisouly the hamburger glowies knew all along but the toxic media made most people not beliieeing itI was worried I had this omen that very night, really spooky crap. freak weater extreme hard hailstrom that went sideways I thought all my windows were going fucking blow up... spooky stuff, we're pretty supersticious here....
>>475898242lol i hate when people downplay how much shit we gave them some operating units literally got essential gear taken from them for ukraine and it will take years or a decade to replace all that artillery
>>475898352dying for jews is very white
>>475877818Russia Losing.
>>475897905Media is like that because in capitalism media runs on an ad model that requires views to make selling air time to marketers a viable business model. Since women make most purchases including for men, the media has to be lame enough to cater to women. This is why USA news media is so pro Democrat, since women are majority Demcorat. The commie dream is to have a system where objective fact is sought regardless of how that affects ability to sell ad space, but of course there's another type of sway coming from government.
>>475879629Lul
>>475877818Oh no, not the famous city of Krasnohorivka. Center of arts, film, classical music, dragon dildos, vodka and incest. How will the LGBTC++ community ever recover?
>>475898197If you really believe what you are saying why are the POW exchanges roughly 5 in your favour? Supply and demand implies the Russians capture many more Ukrainians than vice versa. The firepower disparity suggest you take several times more losses, they have an air force, you basically don't, it all adds up...
>>475877818Does anyone actually still care about this war anymore?
>>475898257big parts of your problems over there is the lobby crap I cannot understand why this shit is fucking legalthese last years they started this crap here, so you got these lobby organizations now where politicians go in and out. so you have a lobby that shills for money, so that politicians can give it to them, so they can work there and lobby them selves for moneyand the green shit, what it's about is them giving them selves and their relatives fucking money for bullshit... it's so disgusting. also in one case same happened here as in sweden... you have these frens of politicians that has so far been given 90BILLIONS!!! ... for making batteries.. have they produced anything? nope shit! but give them more money because they are frens of politicians after all, then you get them getting put in comfy jobs in the boards of this crap....we got a serious corruption problem up here these days. here same crap you ie have the brother of this former leader of the progress party which is supposed to be again this green crap.. oy vey her brother given billions of state funded money, takes out a salary of 6 million a year, yet a single battery had not ever been produced... sighis why you see them shilling it so hard, it's just about corruption. they don't give a shit if crap works or not they just want to give them selves and their relatives money, this is the dire crap here
>>475898352I have yet to see a single bayonet used as a weapon in this war, aside from a couple of POW snuff videos. Neither side seems to favor them for trench fighting, even though that would be the ideal usage case.
>>475877885Well Russia doesn't say and NATO pulls batshit insane numbers out of it's ass, so who knows?
>>475898979are you kidding me? ofc haraldur you know thisalso faroes in shit because they just want to sell fish
>>475898352TFW crackers were, have always been, and will always be the real niggers.
>>475899081There was a drone video of a Russian knifing a pigger.
ACKMAT status?
>>475898979btw I used to read your media all the time but as some point it got just as bad as here so I stopped. regardless I think it was the morning paper I read the other day.. and I had to kek my ass off, it was funny because those shitskins you imported had to change name by icelandic law to be named achmed -sonnever change iceland. btw so my family we did this till my grandfather he was super old though he was in the 80ies when I was a toddler and diedanyways they forced to take you know other names so they all just took the name of the closest frarm, so it's so many people with that same name which I am not related to at allanyways you know origin of this crap, it was 100 years later.. but it was napoleon he got pissed at jews and names because it was impossible to know for french intelligence who was related to who... napoleon had an extremely massive and good intelligence service, he famously said>YOU SPY ON EVERYONE... except mekekanyway cheers kormakur
>>475878789big fortress and a important logistical hubnow they will have bigger problems to bring reinforcments to bear
>>475882064what are you talking about? the ukrainian army was build up for almost a decade. ukraine had more men than the russians in the field, maybe they still have
>>475877818Just wait until the real counteroffensyiv starts
>>475885338bachmut always was just a little village without any importance, right?
>>475892413I think a lot of people forget that a lot of guys who already served are also not counted as future manpower.
>>475898407Exactly 2 years of the most hot area of the map. Name a winning side, bro! Judging only by colors.Just a reminder. that's 150x150 km. So that HUGE advancement near Horlivka is like 10km long, lol >>475898954Pow exchange is another tricky question, almost totally unrelated to causalities. Without knowing all the backstage you can literally draw any conclusion from 5:1 (wherever you got that number)> Ukrainian beasts are killing almost any soldier that is surrendering. So for every 5 million of Ru-Nazi killed there are like 5 POWs that survive.> Ukrainian subhumans cant do shit to Russian army. So they die in millions, got captured in thousands and capture their own POWs effectively because they dont know how to fight at the first place> Armies are approximately equal on battlefield. But because of one bad Ua decision there was huge amount of POWs captured by Russia in Azovstal.See? 3 completely different theory from 5:1 ratio
>>475887287i have to say, it is pretty impressive that they have not revolted yet and have not killed the snathcers and their families
>>475900593>>475898954*and CANT capture their own POWs effectivelytypo
>>475899102if anything I would trust the british MOD they are really realiable, but again man we will never now until this bullshit is overI don't remember the numbers they state. they are however really realiable. btw one of my favorite mil bloggers is this german guy living in panama have you watched him before? he has one shit in english but he also have a german onehe is really factual and does his best to be neutral in prsenting crap, but ofc is hard he goes he obviously supports ukraineI also watch this crap with these two ukranians from sbu (I think they don't say) that interrigate russian pows and just go what are they thinking, why did you enlist for thisyou won't believe the lvl of russian brainrot and how peple have been propgandized also the austrian army is exceptionally good to follow, no bullshit just hard analysis from a military perspectiveit's so much bullshit in this spehere with prpgandists from both sides, is tiresome it gives no value if you want to just understandhere is that german in panama's channel where he speaks englishhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3KfcvCLVi2PW_QY80hEwTA/videos
>>475900848>if anything I would trust the british MOD they are really realiableEverything they have told me in the last 20 years turned out to be a total fabrication. But I totally believe them about this!
>>475900564Not exactly. Avdiivka is smaller than Bahmut like 10 times but more important actually.
>>475888699if the houthis, a militia in one of the most poor countries on earth, can send the US navy packing back home, then we should not be surprised if land based rockets/missiles can damage ancered shipsconcentration of anything (troops, ships, etc.) is nearly impossible. the damage done by long range systems is just too mucheven air superiority is going away, land based defense systems against them are getting too good
>>475900751you obviously know zolkin and dmitri right?I watch them all the time... the lvl of absolute brainaids with these russian soldiers. it's just atonishing to watch.. fucking believe in nato musquitos and the level of bullshit is just beyond this earth, and so many of these idiots actually believes it... ebin nato musquitos.. come on.. how the fuck can you even think of such bullshit
>>475889874if someone cannot understand why the russians are doing this, does not understand why the americans wanted thisread some history
>>475901023military != lying scumbag politicians anon, big differencealso again I haven't in a while but the austrian army too, hard brutal facts free of politics just technical crapI'm not mil guy my self though so no expert here, I have to rely on people like this. media is just useless if you want to follow the crap
>>475890720>But it's the big question who's army is more comfortable with this situation.since the russians have way more arty and ammunition, i would say they are more comfy with itat least i haven't seen people snatcher vids from russia
>>475891254>Their war performance has been pathetic for a country that calls itself a superpower>laughs in houthilet your troon gernerals give it a try in iran, kek
>>475893364>you guys have taken massive casualtiesthen why is your military snatching men off of the streets? press gangs are alwas a sign of low moral and low manpower
>>475893972one gets banned from /k/ for this?
bros... it's only a matter of time until the russians advance..
>>475901120lol they didn't send the fucking us home.. but if you are an sg fag like my self was and watching the incompetent saudis vs these basically mountain hillbillies now that was beyond cringehere you got these rich ass saudis with more or less all the cool hightech us crap... and they just keep on fleeing leaving their equipment behind... uff the arabs are useless they don't have proper military tradition and discipline like other modern armies do.. once the turks were useless too, they are not anymore they got proper german military tradition before ww1so the turks are good, this hit the english hard, they thought they would just bulldoze over them...
>>475894784>need reinforcments of 30.000 per month>people snatcher vids galore>most battalions are on half strenghbut >50+k dead Ukrainian soldierssometimes i think you guys hate your own soldiers more than i hate kikes
btw norway has a weapons embargo on saudia arabia because the crap with yemen. so now cool stuff to them from us untill, they sort it outI haven't checked lately but it was atleast an embargo. I still don't get how they are not able to stabilize the situation there
pls stop posting creepy pictures of underage japanese girls
/k/ jannies on suicide watch
>>475902155>lol they didn't send the fucking us home.and yet the ships are back home and the goal (keeping the red sea houthi free) has failedthe US even has given up on their biggest base in africa. iran is succesfull in pushing out american influence from the region
>>475901183Yes. Dmitri - is that another guy with Zolkin, right? Round face, beard?I stopped watching them a long time ago.Why watch them if you have like 100 millions of such retarded in the internet? And you can literally reach any friend of yours from Russia and listen about Nazi-Satanist country of Ukraine for hours.>>475901400>>475901882>>475902406>people snatcher vids from russiaWell, that's mostly happening because in Ukraine people are actually slightly smarter than the government and in Russia - vice versa.And what if I say you that Ukrainian volunteers still need to jump thru 7 hoops to get into military? I was talking with one recently, he had a lot of complains how he (relatively healthy guy) was screwed by med. commission. And was already thinking about bribing someone, but the situation resolved in his favor.
>>475902570you find 16 year old girls icky?
>>475903001>Yes. Dmitri - is that another guy with Zolkin, right? Round face, beard?yeah he is pretty basedno it's interesting because you get to see what they think and it's brainrot... also also much for just giving your name, rank and number when your are captive which you are supposed to doa captured soldier is only supposed to give this information
>>475902999lol is somali priates all over again, they will eventually have to send down ships there to protect this extremely important trade channelwas it this week or the other, they attack one of those russian ghost tankers lolbecause these idiots only use marinetraffic to get their intelligence and shipping is extremely complicated those guys go through all sorts of hoops to hide the indenty and evade taxes and sonorway for instance is massive in this, but the shippers do all sort of gymanists to hide the fact for tax reasons this is internation I once worked in this field making software
btw if you work in boring crap like this never name your shit "new" for instance this is lorry traffic and so "New Computrised Traffic System"... that crap is from the 80ies before many us was even born lol and it still lingers around.. this crap is so slow manshit I made years ago, will be around for prolly 20-30-40 years from now.. I will go as an old senie biden like person and go.. oh yeah I made that... stupid gov crap the eu is useless had to do this and that and for certain countries that just refuse to use the agreed standard
>>475904021>Traffictransit sorry I am drunk also in this field so many acronyms all the time you get dissy.. is just fucking letters like this all over the placeno and I don't miss working in this because it was fucking boring as shit. zzzzzzzz
>>475903001>it's totally difficult to join the armyi guess an english naval captain told the shanhai'd crew the same sermonlast i heard was taht you guys send retards to the front>>475903382>>475903001the guy with the red face? classical perseverance propaganda in my view>>475903692so we agree that the US has been send home by some of the poorest guys on earth?
>>475904236no absolutely notlook nobody is "scared" of the fucking houthis and they obviously just want attention, unless they disturb shipping more nothing will happen
>>475903382>it's brainrotYou can basically find a lot of those in Russia street interview on Youtube.>a captured soldier is only supposed to give this informationNope. Basically all those rules are outdated by 50-100 years.Think about this from another side. There is HUGE propaganda narrative about "Ukrainians castrate and stab in the eye every POW they got". And it's working, because of brainrot, Russians are literally killing themself instead of throwing white flag.So every video from Zolkin is huge anti-propaganda message. "See. here is another not castrated soldier. And we will talk with him as freely as possible"But also each video - is huge safety insurance for Russian soldiers. One of the reason why they are giving more that just name+number
>>475904385>send ships to garantee safe passage for ships>come back>still no safe passage for shipping>houthis still hi-jacking tankers>somehow this is not a lost operationplease explain to me what must happen before you accept something as a "lost battle"shipping home without results seems to be a win in your book
>>475903692>eventuallythat's a funny way of saying they'll have to try againbecause the first attempt failedand they went home
>>475904503kek I watch those channels too when these guys go around in russia and ask people about this war.. ufff.... also I feel for you anon I wish country could do more they are ramping up production now btw. so sliding did you get this. so you have nammo this a very old arms producer hre, they were ramping up production... but then this corrupt offical and invited tiktok. and china did this on purpose, so they had been given all this fucking electricty ... so they couldn't expandoooh I want to kick that asshole in the rectum, in the end they expanded thogu... fucking sneaky ass chinese they should fuck off
>>475890644Spam? I hardly see any threads about it anymore.
>>475900848>if anything I would trust the british MOD they are really realiableSomeone post the 'hohol killah' shrub with the British MOD text.
>>475904503>>475905002>misstreatment of POWswell, lots of webms showing exactly that doesn't help eitheri know because "your side" (on /uhg/) posts them with sadistic glee
>>475877885>Russia isn't winning efficiently enough!!!!
>>475879642Putin himself said about Krinky, a bridgehead, openly on TV, that he told his generals to not take it too fast. “Ironically, not taking territory fast is good for us, it means they waste manpower faster.”I got it from Mercouris some days ago so there’s your source
>>475904900hehe at some point with the somalis hijacking traffic they had to send down ships there to patrol. again man they want attentio n so they can go makbar america, makbar israel blablalbqa sometihng somethingtragic as it in the world they are not important. I dunno man if shit happens or not. what remains ever is saudi fucking incompentece omg I have watched so many of these houthi shit... fucking useless saudis is all I have to saya proper army with 10 times lesser of equipment would just roll over in no time
>>475905281Literal months, Ukraine shills told us Krinky was gonna develop. Now they'll completely stop replying if you mention it kek.
>>475905376well, the saud army suffers from corruption and power plays between the officers familiesno effective communication equals shitty fighting capability. it didn't helped them that the houthis are battle hardened by decades of civil war
saudis with seveeral top modern abrahams rolls in>oh what's that in the distance? is that a houthi with a musket? REEE OMG EVERYONE run.... don't even destroy our equiment first just runMOOOM!!!
>>475905666>it didn't helped them that the houthis are battle hardened by decades of civil warobviously this fucking mattersbut ad to that they don't have military tradition there like any western country. this is the arabs weakness generallywhatever excuses they produce. again ie turks big difference they were once useless too it was the akilles heal of the ottoman empire they were lagging behind militarly, but then before ww1 you gous thought them how into. that's a proper military nowalso natos largest standing army right? they was taught proper greman prussian military tradition
>>475878049you can build there
>>475904503you (assuming you're not a jew) are cannibalizing your own society
>>475906405>also natos largest standing army right?as far as i'm aware, you're right>prussian military taught themyes, there are some families still holding onto turkish noble titles (pasha and the like), getting those for the service rendered to the sultan. alas, those are meaningless, after the collapse of the osman empire
>>475877948It doesn't matter how fat or disabled you are, this war will not end and you will die face down in the mud.
thread comfy as fug.. anons so I don't drink so much anymore .. so yesterday I bought beers today I fell asleep till 10 o'clock or something in the evening my dogger onfused.. what are you doing anongetting old I guess I can't drink beers every weekend anymore. ere I am 2:00 going wtf... I still got beers left ....so many weekends now I just skipped it, I almost always used to drink beers in the weekend and tradiot here akkveit during christmas only time I touch the brown stuff that and some family crapwhen you turn 30 in norway is obligatory to drink brown stuff, I never got into this crap like my father and grandfather and uncles and somy father sometimes drink akkevitt in the summer and so I never do is just christmas Idon't think they even know the orgins of akkevit, but like whiskey and so it comes from the former norwegian territories in scottland.. not taking credit lol is just how it is
>>475905155You wont believe how much of pro-Russian video are actually staged. You need to look at the details, but stupid and brainwashed people cant thinkEspecially early videos (those who shaped the nerrative) was partially from Siria and other places. But stupid and brainwashed people cant google and fact-checkThere are a lot of videos from opposite side - Russians are torturing and killing POWs.So here is 2 mistakes from your.First one - existence of such videos is NORMAL. It's quantity of the not fake video and response of military superior that counts.Second one - you literally go to the cesspool of the internet and trying to find "nice Ukrainian" here? Good luck. Do not forget about /chug/ and other retards who are literally mocking Ukrainian civs for dying under missile strikes.
>>475878046THE KRUSTY KONGRIA???! KRASTY KAANG! IT S HAPPENNOOOONG!
btw back in the dark ages, the priest was also your doctor>priest I cut off my leg in woodchoppping accidentakkevit>priest my nose is runningakkevit>priest I got the lobster plagueakkevit akkevitheh
>>475907267your dad died in combat lol
>>475877818Was this part of the special operations that was commenced for a few weeks?
>>4759073963... days.... lolI don't get it, if they though going to kiev and take over the tv shit, like they alread ytried this in lithuania... did that work.. NO!! btw I was an exchange student at gedinimo technicos universitetas there. so their national hero was from campus they took over broadcast and soviet sent in the military with this purpose to take over broadcast so killed them did that work?no.. that just pissed off the population even more and they had to go
3 days... anytime nowsorry rocky meme I had to watch this comback kid stuff after drumpfl to undesrtand you hamburgers
>>475907267>deflectingi was talking about your propaganda being horrible, not if the russian are faking theirs. typical behavior of the guilty
>>475907956>do you want to know were your infos are coming from? find out morehow correct am i?
what the hell is my random youtube crap showinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-bnLCAvuHo
>>475908411we just know the head of svr did not agree to putin and went he beraded him on russian state tv>SO ARE YOU ONBOARDno... I mean yespic unrelated
>>475908271Well, I'm not saying that Ukrainian propaganda never faked anything... Or that Ukrainian soldier never killed or tortured POW.The problem is that you literally seeing like ALL torturing POW videos from one side (both fake or not). And amplifying them "See the truth, UA is EVIL!!!"But you completely blind to a number of videos from another side. Like they do not exist. "And they are probably fake anyhow, glorious Russian liberator is above that".Are you Russian bot or something?
>>475909271my point was, that your side loves to post gore porn 24/7 (doesn't matter if real or not for me) and therefore you guys make it very easy to believe fear propaganda
>have now capturevatnigger on vpn
>>475909271Why are you even bothering with someone from a country who nearly exterminated you, ruined white demographics, ended european empires and are now sucking Putin's dick in exchange of cheap oil while getting themselves replaced by roaches? You should look for better allies, that g*rm sold his mom ass to me for one euro while you guys are literally fighting all in against an enemy many times your size, just saying.
>>475909504And it is happening because:a) Ukrainians just have a lot of gore porn. About totally unprepared Russian dying (sometimes in funny ways). And Russian have less, just because they cant capture shitb) Both sides have a lot of gore-porn but Russians do not post it because of high morale standardsc) You are just not looking for /chug/ and other places where Russian gore-porn is postedSo my bet is a) and c), yours?
>>475910547i look what the other side is doing (/uhg/) and what different social media guys are postingthe "nato" side is by miles worse. you can rationalize it any way you want, your side engages in gruesome posting, while laughingthe russians seem to be more somber about the whole affairsaying, your side (zelensky, nafo troons, reddit and /uhg/) drove me to be pro russian
>>475878063All you niggers better spend it and quick
>>47590726718 post faggotGhost of Kiev yourself
>>475911628>you post too muchwhat is so bad posting about something that is close to ones interest?
>>475911925no, scumbag, its the retarded propiganda content.
>>475907267kremlin has really managed to fuck up hamburger an to a lesser extent som anglo headshere we are wise to their tricks, nothin is new is so damn frustrating anon the americans I mean the bongs no fucking way, they are wise to it ofc
>>475877818It's taking a while, but it's doing better than all American wars combined, so that's something
>>475907267btw so you know this ralph guy? look he is a fucked up guy now but it's "typical" so this guy plays yurii bezmenow you know this east germankgb guy he goes on about bullshit, spooky as fuck but fake.. anyways so you hve this ralp guy playin gyuri YEah righ commies underming us yeah! is why I support russia! yeah.... the cognetive dissonance...
>>475909908We are fighting enemy like 10-100 times bigger, so we need any ally (Peru included)The problem is that those "collective of allies" already dragged this war into endless stalemate. Which is way more desirable for Russia than for Ukraine. And it's more like USA's fault, although Germany is not helping either>>475911214Look, you may be even correct on this one. Maybe.The problem is (and I'm pointing it 3rd fucking time) that you are like completely bling to the other side.Specifically for you I'm posting an example of what I'm seeing every day. It's in Russian, here is translation."Evacuated mommies with their kiddos after Ukrainian downed Russian missile on the child hospital. It's just me, or everybody else also wants to hit them with Kinzal?"So it's basically fake about "evil Ukies against good and just RU missiles" together with appeal to kill moms and cancer children with "good and just" hyper-sonic strike.Oh those kind russians with their morale highground... Why, oh why those evil Ukies post gore porn? Maybe because they turned our death into mixture of TV Show and laughing contest?>>475913156Yes, true. But it's also mind-specific. You need to be really stupid or really gullible to believe in this shit.
>>475880273you really should just stop trying to give input when you're out of your depth.Makes you look stupid, now I know to ignore you in this thread
when shit hits the fan I hope 70ies doctrine is over, it goes when ww3 finnmark will get nuked to oribt.. all you assholes WHAT THE HELL DID FINNMARK EVER DOanyways it was docrine then.. REEE. also I learned this week that alsoall finnish bridges are prepped for explosives is the same in northern norway I dunno south, is loaded with explosives so vang when they try
>>475897060Holy cope
>>475894520I know how those wars played out for the aggressors at least. Suck more russian cock, maybe it'll make you feel better.
we are here prepared for a complete nuclear warfuck if you go south so you have oslo, full of niggers btw don't go therebut here is the thing, it's a city under the citr so when the nukes come flying, is whole city under groundthe swedes made entire towns inside the mountains in preparation for this, go checkthese focumenatries it was abandondedthe wole point is when russia nukes us they still have fucking facotires inside the mountainsis this swedish program where this guy go at these old sites.....
>>475892663The Ukrainians have lost massive amounts of people and money and we need to reconize their sacrifice. They are defending their country against a foreign invader. A foreign invader that loots their homes and bombs childrens' hospitals.If they were to stop now and just let the Russians keep what they stole all that sacrifice would have been for nothing.The world is full of injustice and pain. Should we let this injustice slide too? Not if we can do something about it. Helping the Ukrainians isn't a big burden for us.The economy of the USA and the EU and other allies is a good chunk of the world's entire GDP. If we only spent 0.10% of our GDPs aiding Ukraine that would be enough for an overwhelming victory.The best outcome for all involved is for the EU to rebuild both Ukraine AND Russia after the war and get both of them to become part of the Eurozone. That investment would repay itself one or two decades down the line once those countries become prosperous economies leading to an overall increase of the enitre European economy.
>>475914504>is this swedish program where this guy go at these old sites.....is declassified all of that shit.. is now fill of water and rot and shityou even some bitcoin guys guying this shit. here in norway too you have there facitilies powered by own hydro shit ie that was sold for scrapsalso this seems tobecome nato docrine now here, swedidsh and finnish pilotes are trained to use roads..... because first thing mongloid greta thunberg putin will do is try to get air superioutybasiclly... we don't need airports ...
>>475913823I think alot of it also is just to be outragoous to get attettion, face it biden just basically carried out trumps polioces... I am like I can you 100 times more worried of what this change will mean
>>475878789Based girlfriend girlfriend enjoyer
>>475915189Honestly, at this point I don't even care Biden or Trump or Harris.We don't need specific politic on the top of USA. We needed specific decisions from USA, decisions that cant be done by POTUS alone. But that opportunity is missed entirely.So we are in weird spot. Any moderate decision by US or any other government will change nothing. It's only drastic decisions that can make things better or worse now. And face it, even Trump under cocaine cant freely made something too drastic, like entire goverment and country have to support it.
>>475882064You are glowing tranny
>>475889874That's why the majority of the Russians being sent there are getting paid tens of thousands now just to go, and they have to search for jeets, cubans and rapefricans as well. I think they've emptied all their prisons of most candidates too, they were already sending female convicts many months ago allegedly. I think that if Russia were to try a full mobilization without the lure of money there would be protests in Moscow/St Petersburg
russia captures shit every daymeanwhile ukraine cries and begs for weapons but "they are winning" in the eyes of delusional people living in a fantasy world
>>475883789Blessedly blessed
>>475914655>we just need moar gibs!You need to go back. Ukraine was a corrupt shithole before the war and it'll be one after. They should repay their debts instead of begging for more.
>>475916506majority of the russians sent are contract fighters and volunteers, they literally went to the recruitment office and signed a contract, they get vacations, benefits, etc. the volunteers with no experience have to do 1 month school, then field training, then get sent to the smomajority of ukrainians are conscripted, drafted and pulled from the streets, they get little to no vacation because they need to rotate and are low numbers, their training is like 2-3 weeks and get sent to frontlines, they are exhausted quickly
>>475916506cope and seethe faggot150,000 russians are at the border and they are coming in hard.
>>475917114its either he's a coping faggot or ignorant to the fact of reality because he hasn't done proper unbiased research
>>475902130lol/k/ is tranny haven and this war was its' death knell
>>475917262whats fucked up is every media outlet/politician knows there is a massive troop buildup at the border and zero reporting.Just a coincidence Jewlinski is now willing to "give" land back (that he lost 10 years ago) and doesnt want Putin in chains all of a sudden.
>>475917262>proper unbiased research
How much longer until the frontline collapses and one side starts making major gains?
>>475882064Good copepasta I’m giving you +1 upvote
>>475901265Care to explain your reasoning?
>>475896003>Sovereign country defending itself
>>475916194The US doesn't support any drastic decisions in Ukraine. Don't let twitter fool you, most Americans want nothing to do with Ukraine.I feel for the Ukrainian people, I really do. For the most part its not your fault, you deserve decent lives and self determination and all of that shit.But you need to direct your ire at your own government. Your country didn't have to sign agreements with no intention of keeping them, didn't have to invite Russia's enemies to their doorstep. And for what? For western oligarchs to loot your country instead of Russian ones? Your country could have ended the war with much smaller losses a long time ago, and your leaders let Boris Johnson of all people come and whisper false promises in your ears. Leaders who have shut down elections and hold total power. If you still have a country when this is over, your government should face a reckoning from the people the likes of which hasnt been seen since the French Revolution.
>>475918872>I feel for the Ukrainian people, I really do. For the most part its not your fault, you deserve decent lives and self determination and all of that shit.Pretty much agreed.It's our responsibility to cleanse our nation of its parasitic jews, and it's ukraine's job to do the same to theirs.
>>475918872>USA flag>But you need to direct your ire at your own government> Boris Johnson of all people come and whisper false promises in your ears>Leaders who have shut down elections and hold total powerRussian bot detected, unironically.Yes, I may be wrong about this one. But at least I can say that you have no fucking idea what is happening here.Yes, our government is retarded, but NONE of the reasons you named are accurate. They are taken from Russian propaganda, not from reality.
>>475888130In a war of attrition there's not much to see on maps, and therefore obsessing over them is somewhat pointless. What matters is losses in men and materials. You will only start to see large map changes when one side can no longer replace losses with mobilisation AND has burnt through all their reserves. At this point, they simply don't have enough men to hold the front-line, and are forced to fall back and shorten the front. Subsequent lines of defense are usually weaker, and losses while retreating are usually catastrophic--since nobody drills falling back.The next line of defense will hold less time before being forced to fall back, and so on until it's just rapid movement on the map. Everyone knows that once a side starts falling back on multiple fronts, and aren't able to hold on the next line very long--it's game over. This is why Ukraine always fight to the last man. Because if everyone understood they've already lost, then the money stops.
>>475919038globohomo comes in all creeds. Al Gore is a billionair parasite.>We be selling carbon credits n shitThe Paris Climate Accords have built in fossil fuel tax that goes to bio fuel subsities. 20% of all grain/corn grown in Ukraine went to ethanol, thats why they could use illegal pesticides. Global consortiums bought 1/3 of the farmland and those crops can be farmed with robotic equipment, no farm workers = no protests so they killed them off.Plenty of articles out there about the EU freaking out because the war prevents them from making Paris Accord biofuel quotas.
>>475919486If anyone telling the truth is a russian whom do you think God sides with?
>>475918872If you're not a Russian shill, you're doing a good job of mindlessly parroting the Russian narrative.
>>475877885Extreme, ignore the coping ziggers.
>>475920211where is the lie?faggot
>>475877818https://youtu.be/07iYfxLpYU8
>>475919486>Everyone who doesn't want to empty their pockets for me is a Russian!Sure thing my guy
TO THE LAST UKRAINIAN
>>475890277Because that would make him a martyr because of his immense popularity in Ukraine and because Ukraine isn't a topheavy totalitarian shithole like Russia there wouldn't be a leadership. crisis.
>>475891481Yes, the US has a proven ability to annihilate desert shitholes, Iraq had 1.3 million soldiers and they still got blasted, worst part is that Ukraine is a flat open country perfect for Russia's tank heavy doctrine and yet they're still stuck on tiny settlements and down to pulling t-55's out of storage and using stripped btr guns as improvised artillery pieces.
>>475920578Zelinski cancelled elections because his party got destroyed in thier last election. He closed and looted churches so family members cant even have cerimonies for loved ones lost in combat.You are one piece of shit shill
>>475920578>his immense popularity in Ukraine
>>475877818>Krasnohorivka (Ukrainian: Кpacнoгopiвкa, IPA: [krɐsnoˈɦɔr(ʲ)iu̯kɐ]; Russian: Кpacнoгopoвкa, romanized: Krasnogorovka) is a city in Donetsk Oblast, Ukraine, west of the much larger city of Donetsk. Based on 2001 census, it has a population of 16,714.>On 30 March 2024, two people were killed by Russian shelling.[13] By 8 April 2024, Russian forces had entered the southeastern part of the city.What a meh
>>475907395>>475911628>No response exept seethingZiggers are very low IQ and emotional people
>>475920916>Cancelledstraight off your full of shit, the Ukranian constitution forbid elections during marshal law, and Russia invading is a very good reason to keep people from wandering around at night>>475920975Feel free to prove me wrong Mohammad
>>475919549Oh lol. You are even worse in armchair frontline analytics than me.Look at that picture please >>475900593 . See this huge green blob? On the global map it's actually 3 times bigger, I've captured only part of it. 11800 km^2 of green. One of Ukrainian counteroffensives.So tell me, did Russia>no longer replace losses with mobilisation AND has burnt through all their reserves. At this point, they simply don't have enough men to hold the front-line, and are forced to fall back and shorten the front. Subsequent lines of defense are usually weaker, and losses while retreating are usually catastrophic--since nobody drills falling back.>The next line of defense will hold less time before being forced to fall back, and so on until it's just rapid movement on the map.Because that was retaken during a week or two back in 2022. Complete collapse of the front, full retreat of Russians, piles and piles of dropped weapons and hundreds of forgotten vehicles (including tanks).And yet, I'm not saying anything about "burnt through all their reserves", "no longer replace losses with mobilisation" and so on. Why?You are partially true about "the war is not about the maps". But your inability to actually read the map and explain what are you seeing is not helping you to make the point.>>475920015Ask God, I do not have imaginary friends since I was 5.>>475920343No, it's not why I called you russian bot. The problem is that you are parroting russian narratives. You can keep your money, it's your choice. You can even be pro-Russian, I can deal with that.But when you replace you brain with Russian propaganda... It's really obvious and it offends me as intelligent being
>>475918872>I feel for the Ukrainian people, I really do. For the most part its not your fault, you deserve decent lives and self determination and all of that shit.That's the same mistake Russians did. Humoring a bunch of butthurt Austriaboos and allowing them to fester and expand until they got what they have today.
>>475921250Ukraine has no constitution, shit for brains. Zelinski illegally fired all the constitutional court judges (mid term) that didnt belong to his party so now the court rubber stamps his decrees.One party states r best state. Just ask best Korea.
>>475921287did you type all of this while dialating?tranny faggot
>>475921287Yes I'm sure the propaganda from a non english speaking country with a smaller economy than California is much more powerful than the entire western world. The Ghost of Kyiv is definitely real and Ukraine will drive Russia out and start striking into Russian territory any day now. Zelensky is definitely the most popular politician ever and a true man of his country who will go down with you if you face total defeat and definitely not run off to somewhere like France to sip wine with other wealthy elites.
>>475879642it is just like in lord of the rings, by famous tolkiennow, the free and morally superior world shall send elvish and human and dwarfish warriors to save the mittle europa from ze/the eastern hordes of mordor
>>475920281The whole paragraph he finished with, stupid dishonest pidor. It starts from the false assumption that Ukraine somehow has to do everything Russia demands as if it weren't an independent country. As if Russia somehow had a legitimate right to interfere and veto anything it doesn't like. The whole claim about "inviting Russia's enemies to its doorstep" is stupidity and falsehood in multiple different ways. Anyone going with that line has to be brainwashed to just uncritically accept the false premises. So a shill or a moron.
if mexico took my arizona neighborhood which is the same size as that... """city""" then i wouldn't call it a mega happening. in fact i'd call it a punishment for mexico.
>>475922863 r u stupid?Ukraine was killing Russians for 8 years before Russia had enough.
>>475922661You also forgot about millions of Russians and any of them can use USA VPN...Look, you first post was like 100% parroting of Russian propaganda. I dont know why was you parroting instead of using you brain and I do not care.This post is better in a way. It's kind of "empty", I can tell nothing in return. It's just pure sarcasm without substance.
>>475877818Nigger
>>475922863seriously, cunt, was it a coincidence the first thing globohomo did was destroy the canal to Crimea? 300,000 acres of farmland destroyed. The canal was like 300km long , started in 1960 and completed in 1975. It was an engineering marvel and one if the few soviet sources of pride.But farms change climates n shitright faggot?
>>475923441Go outside and fight the russians, goy
>>475923441So the ghost of kiev was real?really faggot?
>>475923840No, of course. One of some UA propaganda lies
>>475923909but you said it was 100% liesam confused faggotwere you lying then or now?
WAKANDA FOREVER. UKRAINE FOREVER.
>>475924054Too retarded to read what I'm writing? Where did I said that?
>>475924056Ukwande
