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Fagner group status?
Thanks for the blessed bread!>>476134764Those bases are only of limited use if the local governments forbid the US to run offensive operations from them.
Post your ideas, /chug/!1. Prohibit male social parasitism and use taxes on childless and bachelors to fund a marriage loan program; restrict abortion by implementing a "heartbeat ban" and mandating counseling and ultrasounds. 2. Expand the buffer zone along the border to nearby rivers and fortify them to prevent enemy advance. 3. Expand military engineering service to ensure supply lines remain stable. 4. Pay benefit equivalent to "Northern Bonus" to encourage participation in infrastructural efforts in the liberated areas. 5. Support rebellion in the West, and spread propaganda causing religious tensions between the Catholic Church and OCU.6. Greatly expand Federation drone enterprises, and invest in extensive drone research to add to drone possibilities. 7. Establish All-Russian Patriotic Firesports Union on the basis of the Shooting Union of Russia, creating new sports for recreational WWII tank use etc.8. Pursue "offense in depth" strategy; do not allow the hohols to relocate forces along the frontline, and maintain the privilege of such ability at all times.9. Raise at least one division from each republic with a population exceeding 500K, and one extra division for each 20K unemployed men in each republic. 10. Celebrate and memorialize Russian Empire, ceremonially using Bozhe, Tsarya khrani! etc. Dedicate a day to the Empire and the Romanov martyrs. Two years and no bets from shills yet!
good evening /chug/Z
>>476135083I find it pretty hilarious how deepstate has been continuously understating Russian gains on this front.
>Russian forces have expanded their zone of control in Zalizne, Toretsk front.
>>476135145Morning Z
>>476135145Hello K-on frenWould you like to take over Baking?
>>476135354yeathat is a cute buhanka
>>476134985Wagner lost a company of mercs in Mali. Next.
>The IDF is withdrawing multiple battalions from the Gaza Strip and sending them to defend the Beit Lid base which is under siege by Kahanist militias.
>>476135253What are the real Russian gains on that front? I haven't been following it.
Slava Ukraini
Reminder, no yous for the poojet, let his litter of little jeets starve.
>>476135439And it won't the be last time it happens
>Let me stress, once again, that I am not a military expert of any kind,
>476135487Please answer:>Will Ukraine win the war and retake Crimea?>Does NATO want Ukraine to win?
>>476135467They took another farmfield after a decade of fighting against Ukraine
>>476135622he just be talking
>>476135554Enjoy your peremoga but remember that Wagner suffered up to a thousand casualties in Syria, then went on to fight the Ukraine war.
>>476135805And they got butchered in bakhmut that resulted in prigozhin trying a coup against the kremlin and getting their entire leadership killed by Shoigu in response
Yaaaaa. Zee Zee
>>476135467Most significant change is that Russia has virtually taken over Chasov Yar and is completing mopping up.
Berdychi is already over 30km behind western advance of the Russians front toward Pokrovsk.
>>476135637>>476135788>I can't say that, because you hide them behind technicalities and opsecno tehcnicalities, just ballpark- is it 10 soldiers or 1000 or 10000?or do you want to hide behind vague posts>if you don't consider Ukraine a NATO forcehow many NATO airforce planes are shooting at/bombing russians? again just a ballpark.if zero, then why would NATO not provide airforce to own forces?>That is already a certainty.how are they gonna achieve that? will they demand Ukraine has no military?>Thanks to people like you egging Ukraine on and deluding themselves Ukraine has irreparably damaged their demographics.100% of responsibility of this war is on russia.>Ukraine has irreparably damaged their demographicslmao>No, they didn't.lmao even moreall the boasting about taking Kyiv in two daysall teh posting about Zełensky fleeing to west and Kyiv being encircled"todays program: 8 am invasion of Ukraine, 2pm raising of russian flag over Kiev" propaganda"we never wanted Ukraine" became a cope only around the time russia got btfo from Kyiv and Kharkiv and Kherson almost simultanously>They wanted Ukraine to stop bombing donetsk and luganskthen why did they keep bombing Ukraine from donetsk and Luhansk? why did they send Grikhin to inflame the war?btw how many more civvies died in Luhansk and Donbass since Feb 2022 than in 8 previous years? 100x more? 1000x more?>Oh you're just adorable.prove me wrong. you can't
>>476135805Wagners suffered thousands of casualties fighting enemy 7 times larger than themselves in Bakhmut. Them losing by the thousands is like a common trait for them LMAO.
>>476136211And how did Bakhmut go for the UAF? And Avdeevka? And Chasov Yar?
Ukraine will retake Crimea, I'll be sure to purchase a beach front luxury condo in Crimea after the Zombies have been driven back up Putin's ass where they belong
>>476136364They rotated soldiers during the battle and retreated to much better positions that vatniks struggle to take without using meatwave tactics, while Wagner group got disbanded by the kremlin
the annexation of belarus is proceeding as planned
>>476136538>Pretends that Ukraine isn't holding positions down to the last man
>>476136364Acktually, Ukraine didn't need those places.
>>476136568It's called a Union State agreement.
Ukraine is switching tactic. Stretch the Russian line and wear them thin.
>six (6) pilots>under regular configuration, a maximum of three (3) F-16s>no AWACS link so meaningful BVR air-to-air suppression like AMRAAMs are completely unusableImagine the hundreds of thousands of dead and injured Ukrainians shoved to the frontline under the mantra of domestic propaganda-religion repeating "just hold on for 2 more weeks until the Holy Western weapons save us"Grim.
>>476136538they rotated soldiers like davinci right next to bandera you retarded nigger shill
>>476136793Nice graphic
>>476136852why are her arms so tiny and her legs so big?
>476135788>just ballparkI'd say at minimum around 10k if you don't count the NATO instructors or the glowniggers. >if zero, then why would NATO not provide airforce to own forces?because you know they will go the way of the challenger and leopard, and airpower is the last thing NATO has left. Although I guess you're not that afraid of losing the status of the f-16.>lmaoCute.>100% of responsibility of this war is on russia.Yeah, just let yourself be oppressed, burned alive and have your country enshrine the rights of trannies and let the lgbt parade down your streets. Give me a break, faggot.>prove me wrong.The future will prove me right. Really, just wait and see. You'll find out just who it is that overdosed on propaganda.You said that Ukraine would win and retake Crimea based on the factual information that you are telling me right now. If your information is true and unbiased that will clearly be the result.
Z
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-forces-became-more-active-on-huliaipole-front/ar-BB1qQhZLThe Russian infestation is getting more active on the Huliaipole front! The Ukrainian command has noticed this. We might see a big battle for that city soon.
>>476136852>F16 will be a nothingburger>just like ATACMS or HIMARS that never bombed anything important
>>476134650Z/ugh/ vital sign status?
>>476137178They were just being ironic nazis.
>>476137210Those are the two actually impactful weapons systems Ukraine received, along with Bradleys There's a reason you singled those out
>comrades are still trying to memoryhole this massive defeat
>>476137358When was the last time Ukraine actually succeeded with an ATACMS attack? They had a period in spring where they would get a few through, but ever since then it's been pretty quiet.
>massive defeatKekychoky!
>>476137178Huliaipole is the road to the other Pokrovsk in the west and where the Vovcha river bends. I have long suspected the river of becoming another defensive line.
why are you so emotional pedokraut did someone fuck your gf :^)
The Epic of HilhamiishIn the ancient Ukrainian city of Uryuk, lived Hilhamiish, a mighty cossack known for his womanizing, his daring antics and his physical feats. He was a proto-Ukrainian hero second only to Stepan Bandera. Hilhamiish convinced the goddess Aruru to create for him a worthy companion. From the clay of the Black Sea Aruru fashioned Enkiidovko, a wild man with the spirit of Stepan Bandera. When Enkiidovko first entered Uryuk, the earth trembled and the Tryzub shone brightly atop Mount Mykola. The brothers became inseparable, embarking on quests to reveal the mysteries of ancient Uryuk (Ukraine).One day, in the grottos of Kamyana Mohyla, Hilhamiish had a vision. The deity Anukyiv revealed to him the Pizza of Immortality hidden beneath the Black Sea accessible only by digging the seabed by hand. This divine pizza promised eternal youth to those who consumed it. "We shall journey to claim the Pizza of Immortality" proclaimed Hilhamesh. With fervor Hilhamiish and Enkiidovko set off on their journey facing challenges like the Moskaliishtar of Crimea (who tragically killed Enkiidovko in the intense fighting).Hilhamiish persisted and discovered the Laundromat of Aratu which could magically cleanse garments but was guarded by Scorpion-men. Hilhamiish vanquished the venomous scorpions capturing the laundry technology. So impressed was Hilhamiish that he declared, "in the spirit of DAI we shall bring this European technology back to Uryuk!" Hilhamiish’s journey culminated in a battle against proto-Sumerian Bolsheviks who wanted to seize the Pizza of Immortality, to nationalize it. But armed with European-infused weapons from the Peremoha Academy of the EU, Hilhamiish defeated them securing the sacred pizza.Hilhamiish returned to Uryuk a hero and established the first pizza parlor and laundromat of the pre-Sumerian world. Hilhamiish‘s reign brought prosperity, pizza, clean laundry and European democracy to the ancient Ukraine.
>>476137525What's the relevance of it when compared to the Ukrainian current predicament of losing more of their territories, nigger?That's like saying US is losing Afghanistan because 6 of their SEAL operators died in Somalia for an unexplainable reason.
>>476137525>Peremoga
>>476137580Russian AD systems are now very efficient at taking down ATACMS, looks like Ukraine has to fire five to ten to even get one through to the target.
>>476137915 >replying to a disgusting shill
>>476137850There is no massive Holol win after the first year of war, only defeats and lost territoryHaving a "win" on an unrelated continent is the best they can achieve, please understand
>>476137850These people run on illogical peremoga. Just wait a bit and the zrada will emerge.
>>476134650fellow CHUGs, im once again asking you... no, not for more billions or new wonderwaffles nor deporting refugees back to oinkraine,but for the name of a song. i dont know where else to ask this cause there is no fitting other board. and i know we have some 90s and early 00s kids here.im looking for a song, the music video, in my memory it was a pretty young australian band, the video was mostly animated in monochrome with an reoccuring bald eagle head hacking and picking around. part of the refrain was "step down! step down!". it was pointed at g.w.bush and/or tony blair. it was "alternative rock". it was around the time of the war of aggression against iraq. it had a pretty aggressive chord and was on MTV for quite a while (this was pre-jewtube and shiieet!)i cant find it with the points i remember. my memory about "australian" may be faulty.maybe some of the other "old guard" remembers the song.btw:new york status?stinky status?ukro presidential election status?
>>476137580I'm just up late and confused NLAW with ATACMS
>>476137850Just 6? Meanwhile fagners lost 80 soldiers and 2 helicopters and ukrainians are oppenly saying they helped them to massacre them
>>476137580Either they're running out of them, or the Russian AD and jamming has really picked up the pace
>>476137165>I'd say at minimum around 10kif there were minimum 10k NATO soldiers taking part in fights, there should be at the very least 100dead ones and at least 100 POWs (1% which is really, really low, underestimated number)where are they? russia would love to show them to us, no?why are not even the most rabid russian propagandists claiming this? they dont claim NATO has boots on the ground.>because you know they will go the way of the challenger and leopardso they'd rather lose scores of own soldiers to not risk the planes?>you're not that afraid of losing the status of the f-16.status? are you trying to strawman that west considers F-16, to be a wunderwaffe?>Yeah, just let yourself be oppressedopressed by not being in ruskij mir, I supposewell they done ithow do they like it, do you think? with tens of thousands dead from the war?somehow you didnt answer to this:>then why did they keep bombing Ukraine from donetsk and Luhansk? why did they send Grikhin to inflame the war?>btw how many more civvies died in Luhansk and Donbass since Feb 2022 than in 8 previous years? 100x more? 1000x more?do you think that Mariupol people enjoyed the blessing of russia "helping" them?PS is this some psychosis in chug where you are afraid to cite the post you are replying to? do you think this gives the "enemy" more mana or something?
>>476138092oh yes, like that one shark attack that happened in Egypt being Ukraine's peremoga because the deceased victim was Russians LMAO
>Ukraine lost another cityBetter post gore to cope and seethe
>>476138102Yes, he made a mistake when he made that speech or interview. He thought Russians were civilized and were human. Instead Russians showed that they are not and all they want is violence and destruction.
>>476138350seethe hohol. Russians will catch every one of you
>>476137358the manpad anti-tank weapons were also pretty succesfull, many early war vids showing russian tanks rekt by javelins are a proofwhy are chuggers so hellbent on strawmaning that every wectern weapon is a wunderwaffe?
>476138398>afraid to cite the post you are replying tolurk moar, newfag
>>476138436>oh yes, like that one shark attack that happened in EgyptWhat the fuck was up with thatNot only was it spammed everywhere on astroturfed shitholes like Reddit, some nafoids got tattoos of thatBizarre
Vatniks metodichka literally is>At least it didn't happen in Ukraine >We never needed influence in Africa anyway
>>476138350Again, what's the relevance here nigger? You couldn't even gain any peremoga within the Banderite-infested Ukraine that you chose to look at outside peremoga like a charlatan that's losing their arguments, a trully fitting trait for subhuman hiding behind a meme flag.
>>476137850>muh territory lossesmemba how russia "conquered" Kherson and then had to flee from it?you rushills are too dumb to learn from past failures
>>476138102>ukro presidential election status?Ain't Ukraine a democracy? You don't pick your presidents in democracy bro.
>>476138529>Yes, he made a mistake when he made that speech or interview. He thought US-sharts were civilized and were human. Instead US-sharts showed that they are not and all they want is violence and destruction.you have to do better than that, propaganda-noob. does your drilled front-hole still stinks like shit?
>>476138682NATOcucks delusion literally is>Heh, we finally achieve a victory on a different coutry>this literally will make us win on Euro-ACK>>476138481
>>476134821>https://files.catbox.moe/doi1mr.mp4 (part1)>https://files.catbox.moe/43avdx.mp4 (part2)>https://files.catbox.moe/7arteo.mp4 (part3)These soldiers obviously havent had any training.Directly sent into the jewish meatgrinder to be killed off.Instead of partaking in the jewish wars for profit.We European peoples should unite and bring the war onto the doorstep of these oligarch fuckers.Hang them all.
>how is it relevant that pussyans continue to be cucked by everybody, lose their sphere of influence and look like retards everywhere
>476138398Anon, you don't have to squeal. If your information is true, unbiased and the correct way to view the world then the future will prove you right and me wrong. You think that Ukraine will win, you even went as far as to say that it's delusional to think that Russia will reclaim Kherson. According to you Russia is getting wrecked and will lose. So if you're not just some retard getting high off propaganda and cope that is obviously what will happen. Russia will lose all of Ukraine and Crimea too.Just remember this moment when you find out about the results of the war. Maybe you'll learn a thing or two about humility and propaganda. Despite everything you're not our most hopeless shill, just in the top 10.
>>476137580>When was the last time Ukraine actually succeeded with an ATACMS attack?in June when they were rekting AA in Crimea and everyone in chug were shitting pants its a preparation for air raids
>>476138102>bandHave you checked Silverchair's stuff? It sounds about right for them and the era.
low energy pedokrautlel sucks innit
>>476138618rpg-7s remain the most successful tank weapons due to universality, yet you suck off gay shit like javelins because you are a white nigger who is impressed by the modern equivalent of glass beads
>>476138350>krainians are oppenly saying they helped them to massacre themthat means the US and NAFO-farts did it... surprise. what you gonna do? wank your small nigger-cuck dig another day on it? like you did in rwanda for a hundred days?
>476139008You mean that time our UN shill was reporting about 5 s-400s and an s-500 being destroyed, didn't post pics, told the "comrades" to wait until morning and then still didn't post pics? Yeah, I member.
>476138398Wow, what a fucking retard
This might be an unpopular opinion but i think Russia did good in banning faggot propaganda, it prevented many social problems that otherwise would sooner or later cause social discord >https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russias-supreme-court-bans-lgbt-movement-extremist-2023-11-30/
>>476139193that pic is slava ukriani tier
>>476139193Ukraine doesn't recognize kosovo by the way
>>476138746Tell me, is this "big dick energy" that the Banderite used to take Kherson present in their 2023 Counteroffensyiv?
>>476139043yeah, i did it a few times - but without the name of the song it seems the video is buried deep in the algorithms... but ill give it anohter try
>476139234>Faggot propaganda bad = unpopular opinionMaybe that's unpopular opinion in your country of origin (Israel) but here where normal people live, that is sought for.
>>476138994so no answer to>how many more civvies died i donbass after Feb 2022 than in previous 8 years>why even russian propagandists dont claim there's NATO boots on the ground yet you think there's at least 10 k>why there's no NATO POWs or bodies that would correspond to those numbersI guess you are not as sure of those things as you sayBTW if in the end russia wont get Kherson nor Kharkov nor Odessa, will you admit that russia lost?
>>476139193Imagine naming your child ToniblerThat's Polynesian cargo cult tier
>>476139441By comparison>approximately same timeframe of progress in Avdeevka
>>476138618Javelins are complicated and time consuming to operate and have batteries which quickly go flat.
>>476139468>imagineI fucking hate NATO so much bro...
>>476139465>how many more civvies died i donbass their deaths are entirely on the people who made this war inevitable by sucking off NATO
>>476139455>algoYeah you'd need an album playlist to avoid it.
>>476136538>on the almost successfully counter offensivesame vibes on this faggot...
>>476138350>Khokhols with US/French help killed some Russian mercs in Africammmkay
>>476129849> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_bEpKBd07w> New Kraut-obliterating, trout-impreganting, nipple-crushing trvthnvke just dropped.What video he talking about? Also kraut banned Russians from commentin his videos.
>>476139468imagine name your deuther Javelina and son BayrACKtar
>>476139097the question was wether any other weapon was effectivewhich Javelin wasRPG-7 being successfull or not has nothing to do with ityou absolute fucking retard >>476139179russian sources were reporting that >>476139193>Wow, what a fucking retardas always I am impressed by chug's arguing skills>>476139441>Tell me, is this "big dick energy" that the Banderite used to take Kherson present in their 2023 Counteroffensyiv?now it's "big dick energy", but a day before it happend it was all "Kharkiv is almost surrounded, Ukraine army is in disarray"
>>476139369> that pic is slava ukriani tierSlightly more retarded
>>476139714wtf are thosethey look less human than the people i see in this country everyday
>>476139860Are they getting cucked by France in Africa? xaxaxaxaxaxa xaxaxaxaxaxa and le monke won't do shit
>>476139459Rest asured that my country is not in such place, but i wouldn't say is the best place neither. Some people just fail to understand the dangers that faggotry represent. I wanted to see the Russian opinion on this matter but im afraid that most of the media that investigate in such case is quite biased.
>>476139961>which Javelin wasno it wasn't. There were tens of thousands of nafo ATGMs, yet almost all armor kills are by armor, mines, drone, or like I said rpg-7s.
>>476139808>their deaths are entirely on the people who made this war inevitableso russia?>>476139651>Javelins are complicated and time consuming to operate and have batteries which quickly go flat.javelins killed shitton of russian armor in that war, I am fairly sure Ukrainians were not complainging about getting them
>>476139896worse>Javelina HIMARsovna
Hohols' cope after Zelensky gives up territories?
>476139465Anon, if your point of view is correct and everything you say is true then Russia will lose. Why are you getting so mad? I'm literally handing you the easiest win of your life. What's the point of you reading my massive text walls when you can just wait and watch yourself get proven right about everything? After all I'm, as you say, not as sure about those things. I'm just a silly little guy overdosing on propaganda. You are correct about EVERYTHING and I am wrong and thus Ukraine will win.Just screencap my posts and laugh at them when the future comes to pass. Oh and btw, I already told you how I thought Russian victory would look like. I even gave you several scenarios.
>476139961>/chug/ arguing skills>with a literal demon worshipping glowie
>>476140135>LMAO RUSSIA LOST BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T ANEX THE WHOLE UKRAINE!!1!
>>476140016A common insult for Albanians in Greek is literally "frying pan head"I think you now see why
>>476140106>yet almost all armor kills are by armor, mines, drone, or like I said rpg-7s.I believe some proof of that claim is in order
>>476140117Ukraine constantly shelled Donetsk, yet according to you that is the fault of Russia. You are literally retarded.
>>476140090This is silly, France is using military bases all across Africa and you come back with this maybe we might get a location here
>>476139961>"Kharkiv is almost surrounded, Ukraine army is in disarray"Kharkov and kherson's timeline happened before the counteroffensyiv wasn't it?where are those big dick energy in the Kherson region as well consdering that the Kharkov AO also has noticeable zrada with the territories gained by the Russians around Kupyansk area.
>>476140016Those are the Albozerg that you propped up in my country by paying taxes
>>476140135>MUH 2 MONTHS MUH 2 MONTHS
>>476140117>Back to hyping Javelins as wunderwuffenYou guys are regressing fast
>>476140201Well that's how we got to 17k+ threads
>>476140144>still weasling out of answering simple questionsok just this one>BTW if in the end russia wont get Kherson nor Kharkov nor Odessa, will you admit that russia lost?if you dont deny it, then I take it as yesafter all it is consistent with your "victory" scenarios
>shills seething>hohols getting destroyed>gains accumulatingfeels good man
>>476140271Anon back off, you are talking to a genius who has come to grace us with the realities of the world. If he says Russia is at fault then Russia is at fault, if he says Russia will lose and never get back Kherson then Russia will lose and never get back Kherson.
>>476140353i wasnt even alive in the 90s i dindu nuffin ;(
>>476140271>Ukraine constantly shelled Donetsk,yuo mean after russian mercenaries went there to start a war?
>>476140117>javelins killed shitton of russian armor in that war, I am fairly sure Ukrainians were not complainging about getting themMeanwhile 80 years ago in Operation Zitadelle>Panthers and Tigers killed shitton of russian armor in that war, I am fairly sure the Waffen-SS were not complainging about getting them.
>Russia will loseCorrect
>>476140615>The Economist says
>>476140579Hey bro, Panthers and Tigers actually had an impact in all fronts... unlike the Javelins...
wtf is happening to Kikestine
>>476140459whats is going on in that vid?
>>476140510>if he says Russia will lose and never get back Kherson then Russia will lose and never get back Kherson.if I am right and russia doesnt get Kherson back, will you admit they lost?no weasling out of this oneafter all you love those simple questions>Will Ukraine win the war and retake Crimea?>Does NATO want Ukraine to win?do you not keep asking that?
>>476140694*Chinksect bureocrat allowed by the communist party to say poccnr will lose
>>476140518Okay then child, you get a pass this time, but you still have to run over high lumen individuals.
>>476140738Le Kike has now gone full retard!
>>476140751dog scares off recroooter trying to serve draft notice, im guessing
>>476140579>javelins were not effective because... uh... tigers and paners in WWIII kneel before that 5D logic
>>476140259Syrsky just said that Russian tanks in the field have doubled to around 3000 and that Russian IFVs and APCs in the field have doubled to around 8,000.
>476140460If Russia fails to hold onto Ukraine's eastern territories and Crimea I will indeed admit that Russia lost, if Russia only gets everything east of the Dniepr I will call Putin a massive cuck that should be executed for the good of his people. Never forget the Crimea will be ours and 1991 borders claim though, and this one from hohol officials and supported by NATO officials too. I wonder, will you admit that NATO lost if Ukraine fails to achieve that? By the way, don't forget to screencap my posts. I want you to have a good laugh about them when you look back in some years time.
>>476140738kikes are mad theyre the ones having to invade lebanon instead of us doing it for them. so theyre protesting it
>>476139808The sheer CHONKINESS of this guy never ceases to amaze me. How the fuck can one be this fucking fat and have the guts to post a photo of himself online. Oh who am I kidding, he has guts for everything, that's the issue.
>>476140536The populace supported Russia. You shelled them and their blood is on you. There's a reason DNR soldiers are the most radical.
>>476140904peak Jewish schizophrenia has been reached!
>>476140494Thats easily the best indicative of a crumbling front. In this year the front has been moving way more quicker than 2022 or the last year.Russia has time in his favor, they outproduce the west in war material. Its just matter of patience. Something that un faggot doesn't have.
>why did Ukraine shell defenceless, unarmed civilians?>meanwhile "defnsless, unarmed civilians be like"
>476136538The hohol cries out as he porkwaves you.
>>476140954>instead of us doing it for them.didn't hezbol killed a few marines & french troops stationed in lebanon a few decades ago? I'm pretty sure boomers still remember that and didn't want to be part of today's shitfest
>>476140908>Local Po(o)lish toiler cleaner cannot grasp the concept of parallelism.
>>476140908Javelin deployment in Ukraine had all kinds of issues and made little impact. NLAW performed well, however.
>>476141192as opposed to subhumans in Kiev who stormed all the administrative buildings
>>476140738>>476140904Zionist settlers are attacking the base to protect jewish soldiers who are being indicted for raping Palestinian POWsjust go to /chip/ they are talking about it
>>476140947For the record, I think it is highly likely that Kherson will be retaken by Russia and I do think that is what will happen. The only reason I included the "east of the dniepr" because Putin might always cuck out for his dear western partners, but even he has limits to his cucking. You are never getting Crimea.
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIZZATHIS IS MY LAST RESORT
>the taureg rebels were pictured with several white operators who had their faces blurredso some western or ukrainian special forces assisted in the murder of dozens of wagner in mali. what will be the impact of this?
>>476141311What can you expect from someone who doesn't understand what "strawman fallacy" means?
>For the record, I think it is highly likely that Kherson will be retaken by Russia
>>476140910>Syrsky just said that Russian tanks in the field have doubled to around 3000 and that Russian IFVs and APCs in the field have doubled to around 8,000.well if that doesnt proove that most previous kills were done by RPG-7, then I dont know what doesis half of chuggers just random botposting?
>>476140751Dog saved pig
>>476141538Monke will ignore it and pretend nothing happened like comrades are doing it here
>476141651Feel free to screencap loser piggy :)
>>476141311He also cannot fathom people having lasting memory and pattern recognition systems. Literal inhuman demon
>>476141329> as opposed to subhumans in Kiev who stormed all the administrative buildingsRevolution can be only western and European.
>>476140947>If Russia fails to hold onto Ukraine's eastern territories and Crimea I will indeed admit that Russia lostyou are changing the victory conditions to add Crimea. Lets assume russia keeps crimea, yet doesnt keep Kherson (according to your previous post, not meeting the minimal win requirement) will you then accept that russia lost?> wonder, will you admit that NATO lost if Ukraine fails to achieve that?I am yet to see one proof of NATO troops fighting in UkraineI dont think you can technically lose the war you are not participating directly in
>>476141767After all, I've already screencapped yours. Anything else you want to add for the record? I'd gladly preserve it.
>>476141314I just learnt that the Javelin battery coolant unit only primes the weapon for a total of four minutes. If the weapon is not fired in that time, the exhausted BCU must be discarded and a new one used. Seriously, who designs this shit.
>>476141834it's bizarre how Maidan was so obviously pushed by foreign powers, yet when Strelkov goes to donbass it suddenly means it wasn't the will of the locals.
guise, the tears wont stop falling. were too fat for the olympics, democrats are stealing elections just to be bullied by the rest of the world, kiev will fall in 2 weeks. i wish trump was still in charge. holy fuck bros i cant stand this
>>476141943Do you have the screencap of that Kraut literally cumming when they announced Leopards 2 for Ukraine?... to later see them destroyed?
>>476142085Strelkov arrived there in a ridiculously ad-hoc fashion, with hunting weapons. They looted their first AKs from police stations. Strelkov brought a spark - but there was a lot of gunpowder sitting around.
>>476142200stop bullying krauts, they have it rough
I already have this, your comrades are already coping like germans did after ww1 saying they were betrayed
>476141881If they fail to keep the eastern Kherson Oblast, yes.>I dont think you can technically lose the war you are not participating directly inWeird, why did Macron get so angry then? And where did all those Ukrainian soldiers train? And who emptied all those stocks for Ukraine's sake? Guess it will remain a mystery for the ages.Final question from me, then you're free to go:>Does NATO want Ukraine to win?If yes, then a loss for Ukraine is a loss for NATO. Don't lie and say no, we can read the media, we can see what you shills are posting. I'm just asking this for your own benefit, to try and give you a little perspective maybe.
>>476141881>Thinks NATO officers taking off their uniform, taking leave and going to fight in Ukraine but operating NATO weapons and staying in touch with NATO infrastructure every day is not "direct involvement."
>>476141088>The populace supported Russia."teh populace" of Slovyansk supposedly supported russia when Ghirkin's mercs were thereonce the mercs ran away, suddenly support endedweird coincidence>>476141329>as opposed to subhumans in Kiev who stormed all the administrative buildingsah, so they no longer were just poor unarmed civviesthe goalpost moves quickly in rushill posts
>>476141538Russians will double down, increase force sizes in Mali, and I wouldn't be surprised if a Mig-29 squadron shows up there ala Lybia. Some jihadis will get the hammer treatment.
>476142276every croat flag ive ever seen has been a shillhe is not one of us
>>476142475shut the fuck up leaf nigger
>476142276>your comrades are already coping like germans did after ww1 saying they were betrayedMy collage is bigger than yours!>>476142200No, that was before I started my collection. I do have this however:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stZco6yI5zo
>>476142273KEK
>476142357>suddenly support endedbecause they didn't feel like dying in basements tortured by rabid hohol subhumans.>ah, so they no longer were just poor unarmed civviestherefore all the women and children in Donbas deserve to die by Ukrainian artillery and it's Russia's fault. Fucking retard.
>>476141583>What can you expect from someone who doesn't understand what "strawman fallacy" means?how is chug claiming that literally every wectern weapon provided to Ukraine was supposed to be "wunderwaffe" not a strawman?>>476142085>it's bizarre how Maidan was so obviously pushed by foreign powersObviouslyno nation EVER wanted to get out from russkij mir, in history of historyrussian mercenaries openly saying they started the war and without them it would not happen is of noimportance tho
>>476142535ching chong bing bong, china is beating you in the olympicsthis is literaly 1936, Anschluss of Taiwan soonChina is the new Germany
>>476142200This?
>the year is 2035>you are the last Ukrainian>NATO claims it hasn’t lost yet>seek asylum in RF from EU Ukrainian “reparation” (conscription) lowered to age 12>Russian embassy asks your name >pull out birth certificate which reads “Abramyuk Javelynovich Strykerenko Bih-Mak”>your refugee status is declined >you die to a Vkushna I Tochka automated AI drone in the 10th Greatest Counter OffensiveTM>NATO declares victory>Ukrainians live on in our hearts
>>476142727thats not true but it might as well be trur because everything is fucking JOEVER
>>476142437I think the Russians/Wagner will be fairly cautious. The insurgency in Mali is longstanding and Russia is likely to gradually keep building up local Mali forces while adapting its own anti-ambush tactics.
Whats Chug opinion on this>pic rel
>>476142681aka the local populace would have no means to rebel and would be crushed. Strelkov came and helped them. by your logic, everyone in the Kiev protests could have been locked up and tortured to death the moment they threw a molotov and a western official visited.
>>476136243>Most significant change is that Russia has virtually taken over Chasov Yar and is completing mopping up.Kek really? I haven't heard shit about the Chasov Yar front in months.Has the Newsman britpaki been around lately? It's about time to shit in his mouth
I also have this blackpilled goatfucker calling puccians a nation of obedient serf cattle for not standing up for their dignity and fight against their corrupt leadership. I have never seen somebody supporting Ukraine calling their people like that in /uhg/
>>476142276>Quotes 4chan as proofLoser
>>476142810No, it's the one where he posted pictures of leopards with the lyrics of the song "panzermensch". He did this for months. Not a wunderwaffe tho.
>>476141409All the way to the Hungarian border mate. There is no other way.
>>476142863I doubt Canada could take on Poland in a conventional war.
ZTHDTLDTBSI am reading my Russian phrasebook, listening to Tchaikovsky, chilling on /chug/.... It can't get much comfier than this frens.
>476141192This photo looked sus to me even back then, how the fuck would one even get (((uzi))) in ru/ua? Or enough 9x19 ammo to feed it?
>>476142850it is true, China's declaration of "socialism with chinese characteristics" is their declaration of national socialismChina is the new Germany, and soon they will anschluss taiwanRussia is the new Italy, ukraine is their ethiopia before WW3
>>476143063Germany today literally could not take on Poland in a conventional war.
>>476143030Fuck that, I don't want Russia to take Lvov unless literally everyone there has been killed. That place is poison.
>>476142863Do redditors really? lmao
>>476143170I know but you can relax. It'll be returned to Hungary via Treaty.
ITS SO OVER BROOOOSWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH
>>476142939Ah
>>476142340>If they fail to keep the eastern Kherson Oblast,so they dont even take Kherson (the city), Kharkiv, Odessa, and you think that would be russias win?wew lad, a bit different situation from your previous postsince everyone now see you dont even believe russia can re-take kherson, I will stop being cruel to you it will go to the screeenshot collection tho>Weird, why did Macron get so angry then? dunno ask him>And where did all those Ukrainian soldiers train? some in UA, some in west. Still no proof of NATO soldiers fighting in Ukraine>And who emptied all those stocks for Ukraine's sake? Guess it will remain a mystery for the ages.how do supposedly empty stocks (they are not btw) mean that there were NATO soldiers fighting in Ukraine?
>>476142833>10th Greatest Counter Offensyiv TMfify
>>476142917Reminder that this guy post >Twitter, Telegram and 4chan post as proof btwWeakest shitskin shill
>>476143189You can already imagine the answers lmao
>>476142863Ex CAF Infantryman hereI laugh at the thought of Canada attempting to take on any military in a conventional warwe are "peacekeepers" not soldiers
>>476143228I'm not so sure about that. All the valuable shit in Ukraine is in the east and the south. I could see Russia annexing Kiev for history's sake, but the entire north-west is pretty much worthless. At that point all you're getting is a bunch of hohol mouths to feed. Maybe if even more of them die, I don't know.
>>476143312did he commit suicide after this? after last summer, i never saw him again
>>476142681>no nation EVER wanted to get out from ukranda mir
>>476143312THAT'S THE ONEHAHAHAHAHAI wonder how is he doing now
>>476142879>by your logic,by my logic there was no NATO mercenaries in Kyiv shooting at Ukrainian armythere were russian mercenaries in Donbass shooting at Ukrainian armyhmm I wonder which protests were organic and which were done by foreign country
>>476143063LOL. Poland would fucking mop the floor with us, in a conventional war not including any allies. Only feasible Canadian victory would be in a scenario they were invading our entire country. We both lack the resources and manpower to invade/occupy one another's countries.
>476143331>since everyone now see you dont even believe russia can re-take kherson>>476141409Damn bro, I knew you were retarded, but memoryholing a post in the very same thread it was made? Fuck me. Anyway, I've had my fun now. Dismissed.
Never forget this happened
>>476143493I assumed wu cuck and pedokraut are the same fag but apparently not. Maybe he really is forever locked in a heavenly cage with angel shatzi.
>>476143466>I could see Russia annexing Kievyou are not even sure if russia will re-take Kherson city lmao annexing Kyiv are you high?
>>476143466Sure in economic terms. However occupying the space buys time in military terms and also allows Russia to place strategic weapons right on NATO's borders as well as obtain bargaining chips over nearby NATO countries.
how will hohols and nafo cope when russia ends up annexing hohland territories?
>>476143875in defence of the german, he may have a pointhohols are incredibly dumb
>>476143715>Damn bro, I knew you were retarded, but memoryholing a postif you are sure that russia will re-take kherson, why is your condition to win not including the city?>>If they fail to keep the eastern Kherson Oblastwhy only eastern oblast? not taking Kherson doesnt mean russia lost, according to your postor did you forget what you posted?
>>476143908>We defeated Wagner on Africa, therefore, we win
>>476143908They will never recognize a Russian dominated Ukraine just like they never recognized the DDR as being a real government.
>>476144126>We didn't need Africa anyway
>>476143908Last time it happened they begged NATO to let them in
>>476143659>hmm I wonder which protests were organicBoth. Both were organic and both were supported by foreign states. Donbas rebelled, with the help of Russians, against a government in Kiev that lost legitimacy. That doesn't give the Ukrainian government to shell civilians and then blame it on Russia which is your initial argument.
>>476143155>>476143063
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK BROS I DONT WANT TO LEARN SPANISH AND RUSSIAN AND CHINESE FOR WHEN THIS COUNTRY IS SPLIT UP AND CONQUETRD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>476144214To win on Europe? CorrectGlad you agree with me, shitskin!
>>476141834>the (((revolution))) in Kiev was not CIA-backed!!!Just shut up, pidorashkaThen the uprising in Donbass is also a just revolution.
>>476141538
>>476144146Russia will never recognize NATO’s gender, just like they didn’t recognize all the others.
>>476144231>Both were organic and both were supported by foreign stateshow many mercenaries west send to "help" the protests?> That doesn't give the Ukrainian government to shell civilians1. internal Ukrainian affairs dont give the right to russia to send mercenaries to start shit in Ukraine2. Ukraininas were shelling "civilians" only after russian arty started shelling ukrainian army positions from donbass
>>476144320how many CIA trained mercenaries were in Kyiv?Because Ghirking had ca 200 mercs in Slavyansk alone
>>476144297>We didn't need those natural resources and gain influence in Africa>Prigozhin expanding in Africa was just a feint
>>476143466Kiev population is not very frenly towards Russia. Putin alluded to at the beginning, that his government doesn't wish to conquer a large population of people that don't wish to be part of Russia. NOW, if you force 3,000,000 Hohols to be evacuated, it may be in their interest. OR- it may be more beneficial for the Russian government to keep those 3,000,000 hohols in artillery range, like the Ukrop government had Donetsk.
>>476143831Never forget this happened
Wow everyone that supports Israel on twitter supports the female clone of Javier Milei for Venezuela.
>if I hide behind the label of “internal affairs” I can paint myself as the victim who dindu nuffin
>>476144647Ask Biden. He himself admitted that the CIA entered Ukraine in 2013.
>>476144696>Russia is running low on resources!2 more weeks and 2 more sanctions, this time for sure broTrust me, I saw it on CNN
>>476144714>Zełensky standing >and looking at cameraholy shit, as brutal as having 100 mercs slaguthered by camelfuckers
>>476144718I bet they also support trans rights
>>476144872>Ignores context of NATO heads not giving a shit about Zelensky
>>476144829>Ask Biden. He himself admitted that the CIA entered Ukraine in 2013.did he admit to sending mercenaries in 2013? no? was FSB also in Ukraine in 2013? yes? ok thanks for playing
>>476144718i dont think anyone support maduro. he is a useful idiot for both sides which is pretty fucking funnngyyyt
>>476144214This skirmish has no adverse impact on Russian diplomatic initiatives in Africa.
>>476144974>entire day's meeting is exactly the same as picture taken in one secnodhow silly of you to think that
>>476145069>he is a useful idiot for both sidesWhat sides?
>>476145138>Unscripted honesty caught on film
>>476145118nigger governments will soon be begging frogs to get back to Africa, after fagner will prove ineffective in dealing with some insurgent camelboys
>>476145069Correct, Maduro is an unironic retardAt least Chavez had some resemble of a politician, he managed the country pretty well for the populationMaduro? Literally starved the people to death not to mention the MILLIONS of Venecos escaping their homeland
>>476142856We can both be right here - I am not suggesting Wagner will attempt some sort of blitzkrieg in Mali as a response.
>>476145217uh oh have I bad news for you
>30 pbtidthis mf been posting all day. confirmed neet loser. maybe the anarcho tranny didnt kill himself, and just changed flags kek.
>>476145069I just heard today that Trudeau opposes him, so he is a friend of mine. Three cheers for Maduro and whatever the fuck he does!
>>476145188communis m is seen as a cheap trick that subhumans do for fun. democrats can indirectly murder whites in the united states more with immigrants
>>476143099These were mostly local Ukrainian-produced semi-auto replicas iirc - including the AK-style rifles.
>>476145374das ist Mein Führer; Herr Trudeau <3
>>476144555So your argument is strelkov helped start the revolt, therefor it has no legitimacy, even though the populace supported Russians? It makes no difference to me because obviously russians should help their brothers right over the (illegitimate) border.>internal Ukrainian affairsno such thing after the coup. >Ukraininas were shelling "civilians" they murdered civilians, cheered and then blamed the Russians. This is the whole discussion. You said Russia (or rather jewishly implied) is at fault for all civilians deaths after 2022 despite Ukraine actively murdering civilians.
>>476145423Tell me about Exxon lawyer Carlos Vecchio that was also the US Ambassador to Vuvuzela when they nationalized the corporations property.
>>476144696That you are even talking about influence in Africa shows you that Russians have been highly successful there, and they're not about to bail out Mali either. This peremogaposting just looks sad given the steady collapse of Ukrainian lines.
>>476144954Good thing that "trans rights" doesn't exist on Russia...right?
>that norwegian that keeps asking "do you think Ukraine will re-take crimea">says russia will win if at least they take Kherson>can't say he will admit that russia lost if they wont re-take khersonlmao the one guy constantly pushing to declare very high goal as victory condition, cant even admit that not reaching a very low target for victory would be losingon a fucking anonymous forum where noone would remember this in a weekthis is chug in a nutshell, all screaming, no real conviction
>>476145371Remember though, he doesn't care about this war, he just wants russians to die. Please ignore him trying to convince everyone in the thread that he is correct and that his view on the politics of this war is also correct. But what am I saying, of course he is correct. Everything he says is right and Ukraine will win. After all, only a propaganda huffing retard would make posts like that and end up losing.
>>476145740I can tell you that youre a gay nigger
>>476135467Modest but they're gradually surrounding Spirne and moving northward. Soon Siversk will be threatened/reentered. Several villages/towns have been completely annexed but they're denying that Russia even contests them, instead claiming full Ukrainian control.>>476142892They just crossed the canal, but the writing is already on the wall. There's almost no ukrops left on the eastern side.
>>476145241Any day now.
>>476145662>they murdered civilians, cheered and then blamed the Russians.ok lets cut all other craphow many more times civilians in donbass died since February 2022 compared with previous 8 years? 100x more? 1000x more?how did russia's coming to the rescue work for them?
>>476145024This is Mariupol, there was no Girkin there at that moment. Are you saying it's not a real revolution? (all Mariupol videos are censored on YouTube).https://files.catbox.moe/e0e0ze.txt(and 4chan cencored Rutube, lmao)Donetsk residents with Russian flags smash Bandera “friendship buses” from Lviv. Long before Girkin. Are you saying this is not a revolution?https://youtu.be/NRsNZd1FXsgGirkin's role is to coordinate the revolution and give it a chance to survive. Russia supported the Russians. And who did the U.S. support? Nazis and Banderites, enemies of Russians and Poles. And Poland? Poland is a prostitute and a traitor to its people.
>>476145867>he doesn't care about this war, he just wants russians to die.correction: I dont care about Ukraine winningI care about the war, because I want the most russians to get killed or maimed>Everything he says is right and Ukraine will winif they retain Kherson (city), Kharkiv, and Odessa, will yuo be willing to admit that russia lost?
>>476146006About on par. This has been a bizarrely clean little war.
>>476146023I never claimed Ghirking was the only merc sent by russiaI give him as the best example of how un-organic this was, as russia claimed Slavyansk also wants to get out of UA, and yet it got calm after his mercs were outthere were russian mercs in other cities too, obviously
>>476145241Just because Polacks love being subs and vassals doesn't mean the rest of the world does.
>>476145318>Amateur photoshop effort
>>476138976>These soldiers obviously havent had any training.Not really. They probably went through 2 months basic training, just like the Russians do. It's just that retard boomer generals on both sides don't understand that maneuver mobile warfare doesn't work on a peer adversary with the same (if not more) artillery, aviation, and entrenched positions. My best guess is that they were probably told that they would be attacking a Russian position from the flank, when in reality (maybe their commanders deliberately lied to them to make them go) the Russians already had defensive positions in that area as well as artillery support. Whichever way you look at it, there is no weapon that's a (((gamechanger))) in this war. It's WW1/ Iran/Iraq war but with aviation and hopefully not nukes. Most attempts at assaulting on both Russian and Ukrainian sides look like this.
>>476146247The contrast is how many civvies the IDF killed in just a few months.
>>476146006>how did russia's coming to the rescue work for them?you can use this argument for literally any war of liberation ever. How many poles died in the Warsaw rebellion? Well they shouldn't have rebelled. All those people the Dirlewanger Brigade slaughtered? Well their blood is on the rebels, not the Germans.
>Make claims about how Russia will be pushed out of Ukraine>Scenario is presented where Russia is not pushed out of Ukraine and gains land and resources while Ukraine loses its demographics and its land.>"Why won't you consider this a loss for Russia"Look, I'll make this easy for you. I do think that Russia will take Kherson, me mentioning the east of the dniepr was proposing a worst case scenario. It still wouldn't be a loss, but a much worse situation than the alternatives.>says russia will win if at least they take KhersonYou really need to stop lying.>Yes, Russia will win. At minimum if Putin REALLY and I mean REALLY cucks out they'll only take everything in donetsk, lugansk and kherson that is east of the Dniepr. If his cucking out reaches zero sum Russia will take the current oblasts+kharkov. If Putin decides to be thorough Russia will force Ukraine to give up Odessa.
>>476146411It got calm because of blatant repression lmao. It didn't become one of the centers of resistance out of nowhere.
BAKING>BAKINGBAKING>BAKINGBAKING>BAKING
>>476146411Yeah, I've already realized you're too small and dumb for this discussion.https://files.catbox.moe/g7wr0k.mp4How about Ukrainian war crimes: the use of heavy aircraft against a civilian object and civilians. Has any of the Poles spoken out about this? No, of course not. You're on the shitty side.
>>476146651>They probably went through 2 months basic training, just like the Russians do.Hahaha you're fucking dreaming. Mobilised Russian servicemen - that is, trained soldiers recalled from civilian life - receive another six to twelve months of training before being placed in SMO combat operations. Dumb fuck.
>>476146023he's saying it doesn't matter if 100% of the people supported Russia. The presence of one Russian passport holder nullifies all the support for revolting against Kiev.
>>476144699I’m pretty sure the most hostile Ukrainians are already dead or soon to be and the ones that don’t like Russia but don’t have the balls to fight would just flee to Poland or Germany, so Russia would be getting mostly the willing or uncaring.
>>476146247>About on parso in half a year of war caused by russia, there were as many casaulties as in 8 years of shelling by Ukraine?wow such a great rescue
>>476146911There is a very hard core of Ukranian nationalist/fascist population left but they would only be 5% to 10% of the remaining 20M to 25M population in Ukraine. A lot of them are already dead now. Today, the vast majority of Ukranians just want the war to be over.
>>476146884>>476146884>>476146884>>476146884NEW BREAD ALERT!!
>>476146994>Ignores the massive artillery assault Kiev forces were launching on the Donbass in Feb 2022Dumb fuck
>>476146856That may be the case with reservists called back, but for mobiks and volunteers training is typically 2 months.
>>476147187Bullshit. For instance, the annual conscription of young adults are not placed in the SMO zone during their period of conscripted service. You're full of shit.
>>476146994It's going on three years of full scale war, champ. It's just that this is a war with the lowest civilian to military casualty ratio in recent memory.
>>476146890I show him the picture that happened before Girkin, if your thinking is rational, 1 person with a Russian passport cannot organize a revolution among Ukrainian patriots. it can only be done among Russian patriots. Do you understand this or not? Girkin came when the revolution was already in full swing.Donetsk and Luhansk are two million people
>>476147346Putin is making a diplomatic point to the countries of the Global South about how restrained and careful Russian forces are in terms of respecting international law.
>>476147322retard, you're mixing apples and oranges. People who are mobilized on an annual basis as part of standard mobilization aren't even entitled to go to fight in the SMO. For that, you need to sign a separate contract with the Russian MoD. The vast majority of people fighting in Ukraine on the Russian side nowadays are volunteers - some of which have prior military background and some of which don't. They all get the same training, which typically is 2-3 months in Russia, then a period of "chill" deployment in rear areas of Ukraine, and after that they go into combat. If you think that the Russian military is training its recruits for the Ukraine war for 6 months of intensive training, you are delusion.
>>476146724>All those people the Dirlewanger Brigade slaughtered?except Ukrainian army didnt start shooting every civilian in sight after the war restarted in 2022>>476146797yeah how many russian howitzers and missile systems were hidden between those civilian buildings?>>476146746so we're back to "we never wanted Ukraine, we wanted what we have" condition as winning? ok
>>476147346>It's going on three years of full scale war,the fighting was over in most of urban parts of donbass after 6 months>>476147493>how restrained and careful Russian forces are in terms of respecting international law.there are literally vids from first day of war of russian forces indiscriminatly shooting at civilian cars on the highway
>>476147728>so we're back to "we never wanted Ukraine, we wanted what we have" condition as winning?Can you tell us Russia's win conditions?
>>476146890>100% of the people supported Russia.just like in Slavyasnkit was 200% eventhen after Ghiurkin ran, it was nowhere near that muchtotally real and organic
>>476148029>Can you tell us Russia's win conditions?removal of pro-western Kyiv "junta"total demilitarisation of Ukrainetotal denazification of Ukraine (whatever that means)no enlagement of natoprotection of eastern Ukrainian "russians" from warthose the ones officially stated at the begining of the warI would assume "retaking Kherson, the city we legally consider part of russia" would also be a part of it
