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SFB NEWS 27/07/2024:Previously on SFB>>475893007Russian failing power grids>>475893479 >>475893525 >>475893581 >>475893667Dam burst in the Chelyabinsk region>>475893787 >>475893838Purchases of new elevators have been reduced>>475894029 >>475894078The State Duma proposed to collect debts of Russians without court>>475894581 >>475894640The Central Bank began preparing to disconnect almost all Russian banks from dollars>>475894749 >>475894807Egg wars are back>>475894982One of the largest Chinese state banks disconnected the Moscow Exchange from yuan>>475895344 >>475895389Putin gave China $18 billion through oil discounts>>475895534 >>475895589Russia is no longer involved in the long-range aircraft project with China>>475895808 >>475895855 >>475895894The Russian fuel market is faced with a shortage of AI-95 gasoline>>475895938State Duma allowed to cut down 7 thousand hectares of forest on Lake Baikal>>475896196 >>475896241Banks in Central Asian countries began to refuse payments from Russia>>475896391 >>475896447Rusniggers stole a 60-ton bridge>>475896535Banks and brokers stopped believing the official ruble exchange rate>>475896611 >>475896661Russian coal companies are losing money>>475896731 >>475896774Most attacked vessels by Houthis are russian>>475896836 >>475896883National Welfare Fund decreased by 11% over the past two months>>475896942IT workers are getting poorer>>475897149 >>475897200 >>475897255 >>475897302 >>475897351Russia will spend almost 1.5 trillion rubles on loans to "friend countries">>475897567 >>475897625Spending on basic science in Russia has been cut (again)>>475897679 >>475897741Central Bank called Russian economy "overheated">>475897822 >>475897866Central Bank raised the interest rate to 18%. What are the implications?>>475898220 >>475898276 >>475898324 >>475898406 >>475898499 >>475898561 >>475898623 >>475898755
> I thank You Saturn-sama, for my Total-Ukrainian-Victory: > I thank You also Shani Dev, for my Total-Israeli-Bharatification: AMEN: I am all-finished.
>>476525554TZD ZDAND PEEPEEPOOPOO
>>476525554That monkey face will never stop being funny
>>476525687She can kill me
hehe refinery got done an oopsie
All those useless oppositionist exchanged to Russian career criminals and our favorite cosplayer/doomposter/tereorist still rots in gulag. What a shame!
>>476525554Zelensky may soon be ready to beg for peace from Russia, what will the peace terms he suggests be?
>>476525554>https://x.com/_spiku_/status/1819081702272389595/>Oil bingo v01.08.2024 - black august edition!>Today, one of the biggest in russia, Omsk >Refinery decided to join our bingo!
>>476526033>what will the peace terms he suggests be?Total Russian Death.
So.F16s.Are they good?
>>476526062
>>4765260331991 borders and Russia paying reparations
>Be Russian>Tossed as trashThe best you can expect
A Republican senator (pic related) has pointed out that while Russia values getting criminals back, the West values getting journalists and democracy advocates back.Contrast that with another Republican - Donald Trump - who has criticised the prisoner swap. Because of course Donald doesn't like democracy advocates who stand up to authoritarians like Putin or Trump himself.https://nitter.poast.org/SenatorWicker/status/1819036206874677379
>>476526033Zelensky already begging for peace. Sullivan wins.
>>476525573He's still less of a pussy than the west, and that's fine, not everyone has the balls to use nukes, so I don't fault him for it.>>476525694It would be if they did it alone, but the first thing they did was start begging everyone to help them and then they started getting delusional.
>>476526491So Russia is weaker than West backed Ukraine?
>>476526491>not everyone has the balls to use nukesIf he does that it is over for him as he turns the whole world against him. I know you are basically a monkey, but stop pretending to be this retarded.
>>476525976Is that picture before or after the droning?
goddamnit i hate it when boards and threads are fastit's pure brainrot and creates the environment for easily supplanted and influenced discussion and culture on a board >>476524019# Goddamn you are gratingly annoying Nigga literally just asked you about the fole of the F16 >>476525298# He might be normally intelligent or above or below but the real thing you're observing is a kneejerk reaction. I don't know enough about military to give a confident answer but I'd say whether the F16 is a "support aircraft" depends entirely on the way it's used and the confines of its engagement. Due to sullivan/biden/muh-red-lines escalation faggotry the F16 won't be striking russia, sadly. Also due to low general equipment and number of F16s they will not be close to the front lines. I don't know if this counts as "support aircraft" but I do think the F16 will fulfill similar roles as the SU-27s that Ukraine is having (less and less of) The big advantage here is really just the much, much better integration and fire options for western munitions. I - in my lack of better knowledge - think this anon might have described something well here: >>>/k/62183234#
>>476526765>If he does that it is over for him as he turns the whole world against him.That's why I said I don't fault him for it. You'd have to nuke everything to really eliminate all threats.
>>476526679No, because they're still losing.
>>476526102>>476526281Why did he change his tune from the last peace conference where Russia was not invited in your opinion? Finland also desired greater Finland project during ww2 but ended up negotiating, wise choice by the way since all other countries ended up occupied, smart by finns to admit defeat and start the negotiation process before it was too late
>>476526957>You'd have to nuke everythingWhich you can't. Why are you calling Putin a pussy for not nuking the world lmao
>>476525687>>476525809euthanasia /yoo͞″thə-nā′zhə, -zhē-ə/noun>1) The act or practice of ending the life of a person or animal having a terminal illness or a medical condition that causes suffering perceived as incompatible with an acceptable quality of life, as by lethal injection or the suspension of certain medical treatments.>2) An easy death; a mode of dying to be desired.>3)The act or process of putting to death for humane purposes; -- used to refer to the killing of animals in order to relieve or avoid pain. >>>2)now THAT is euthanasia
>>476527064Russia is still losing? Ok.
>>476526783guess
>>476527142Ukraine
>>476526359Jake Sullivan? He would definetly like to see Ukraine fight until everything is destroyed, his arms dealer lobby friends would make tremendous profits from it
>>476526338>life imitates art
>>476527228Russia is losing to Ukraine, got it
>>476527064So Russia in war economy is pretty much on par with Ukraine backed by 1% of west? Doesn't that make Russia a pussy?
>>476527109Russia was invited to many peace conferences. They just always pussied out, because they want land they don't control and know that demanding something you don't even control is just retarded.
>>4765260331991 borders, NATO membership, nuclear stock, AND at least two decades of reparations.And these would still be a slap on Russia's wrist.
>>476526338Damn, they could have at least shot him as they left, but nah let him die slowly of sepsis
>>476525720>>476525976>>476525998>>476526338>>476527138
>>476527128You can, that's what it takes to kill all of your enemies.I guess bioweapons could also work.>>476527362no>>476527391No, because they had the balls to start the war.
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>>476527727>No, because they had the balls to start the war.SMO
>>476527727>You canYou cannot. You just launch nukes and then get fucked. 1000 nukes is not even enough to destroy the USA.>>476527727>No, because they had the balls to start the warSo they started the war and are on par with Ukraine backed by 1% of the west taking measly 20x20km territory after banging their heads against it for over a year? Didn't you say that might makes right and that the west is weak?
>>476527285Man, I completely forgot about Shoigu.Did he and Gayrussianmob ever appeared again?
>>476527535Which ones? I didn't hear of those desu>>476527561Why would they invite Russia then? Everyone knows that Russia is not interested in anything less than neutral Ukraine and atleast 4 oblasts
>>476527727They had balls to start the war Putin can't retreat from and has to spend 30k Russian men a month to keep going while tanking Russia's economy, trade and international credibility? Isn't that like jamming your dick into pencil sharpener and keep turning because you don't want to back down?
>>476527874...
>>476528116Why is Russia demanding land they don't control?
>>476527966>So they started the war and are on par with Ukraine backed by 1% of the west taking measly 20x20km territory after banging their heads against it for over a year? Didn't you say that might makes right and that the west is weak?For some reason it is a 3rd worlder mentality to think waging war is based even if it causes the total destroying of the agressor.
>>476526929So no major changes. Shame, I always wanted to see the famous "death from above" in action. Without my personal involvement, of course. Because let's face it, air superiority is what US is good at it.
>>476526338>>476527874>ne unyvajte pazany
>>476527727The war was precipitated on a lie. Because Putin is a dictator, he is surrounded by yes men who tell him what he wants to hear. Due to the culture of lies all the way down, he was convinced that Ukraine would fall easily because it was just an 'elite' that wanted an Independent Ukraine and normal Ukrainians actually love Russia. This internal narrative that they just needed to decapitate the government informed the Russian invasion plans, because they did not equip their forces with sufficient equipment for a long drawn out fight. They were expecting a knockout punch.When this turned out to be untrue, it was too late, and Putin was balls deep in a porcupine trying to scratch his eyes out.It wasn't bravery, it was, as usual... Lies.It is the Russian way.
>>476528116>Why would they invite Russia then?Diplomacy requires to at least try to make peace.If Russia refuses a sensible peace deal, the result is on them.
>>476528194Why has Ukraine been demanding 1991 borders if they dont control these areas?
>>476527923War>>476527966>You cannot. You just launch nukes and then get fucked.Then there should be no problem with using nukes in the first place and all the fear of it is just a bunch of pussies.>So they started the war and are on par with Ukraine backed by 1% of the west taking measly 20x20km territory after banging their heads against it for over a year?Yes. If you charged alone at a bunch of stronger people and get your shit wrecked it was not pussy unmanly behaviour.If you did the same and started crying and begging for help then you'd be a pussySame if they charged you and then you started crying and begging for help (like Ukraine)>Didn't you say that might makes right and that the west is weak?The west is weak psychologically, it has pussy mentality.
>>476528551Because russia signed the 1991 border agreement lmao
>>476528551Because they are their lands. Your house ownership don't magically transfer to niggers invading it
>>476528469It is no coincidence that the 5th service of the FSB, which was responsible for gathering intel on how willing Ukraine was to join Russia, was purged when it was made clear that they lied in their reports. Just another part of Vranyo. Noone in Russia wants to be the bearer of bad news. Better to lie.
>>476528003gayrussianmuff is still around though some wonder what is cognitive capacity is, positing that he got whacked in the head hardshoigu is still alive too, but got demoted/sidelined>>476528291Yeah, it's a damn shameAnd we all will have to live with these policy FAILURES over the next decadesWhile it is true that putins project/rusnigeria will ultimately crumble under its maniacal delusions about the world - On what timescale that happens is an subject to significant variation and we all only have this one life and goddamn it Ukrainians are the only ones actually in a position to earnestly be considered as FIGHTING FOR FREEDOM and they are doing so at a forefront.I will never forgive these politicians and the people that support them1991 borders likely wont happenInstead we will be compressing more and more tension for the sake of "escalation management" only to have an even worse outcome down the linePatheticPissing it away for mere notions and misguided misperception of the reality of pidorstan and the general global archetype it comes fromFuck you fukuyama, you liar
>>476528711Checked, but Ukraine doesn't control those areas so how can they demand them? >>476528750How is it their lands when russians are the majority in these regions, why do ukrainians have this obsession of ruling over ethnic russians?
>>476528663>WarRussia never declared war.
>>476528663Isn't Russia begging weapons from Iran and N Korea because Russia can't handle Ukraine in war Russia started?
>>476525687>no tatoo on tityou had one job algorithm REEEEEEE
>>476528663>Then there should be no problem with using nukesSee, this is where you should have stopped pretending you are retarded. If a country can use nukes in a war of agression against another country, then the world is your oyster. Every single country will start getting nukes and we all know how this will end. Nukes only use is to not use them as it just serves as a deterrent against invasion on your land. If one country can use nukes as a form of agression, then everybody can use nukes as a form of agression.>If you charged alone at a bunch of stronger people and get your shit wrecked it was not pussy unmanly behaviour.It was a retarded behaviour. You just called Russia retarded.>If you did the same and started crying and begging for help then you'd be a pussyKind of like Russia when it begs North Korea and Iran?>The west is weak psychologically, it has pussy mentality.Yet it can fuck up Russia by using 1% of their 40 year old equipment with no manpower lost. Curious.
>>476528663>Yes. If you charged alone at a bunch of stronger people and get your shit wrecked it was not pussy unmanly behaviour.If you did the same and started crying and begging for help then you'd be a pussySame if they charged you and then you started crying and begging for help (like Ukraine)You really think this is a game don't you? This is real life. "Pussy unmanly behaviour". it is dumb to attack a larger group of stronger men. It was dumb to needlessly attack Ukraine. Now 1000s of Russians are getting droned and you think it's based bc it's manly. Do you think they think they are being manly and cool in their last moments?
>>476528839>>476528469No wonder Pajeets like Russians so much. They have cultural affinity towards lying. It's in their DNA to be lying scumbags
>>476529008The elusive ethnic Russians could always move to Russia. They didn't need to stay in Ukraine. My room mate is not getting part of my house if they decided they wanted to live in neighbor house instead
>>476529008>Checked, but Ukraine doesn't control those areas so how can they demand them? They can because the 1991 agreement said that those areas belonged to Ukraine.
>>476525554TZD
>>476528924It's not the worst outcome. I wouldn't be so eager for blood if I were you, because things are starting to smell like WW3. Personally I don't want to know how that goes.
>>476529304A Polish guy explained me the social dynamics of lying in Russia. Pretty interesting and insane.
>>476529126Russia was buying weapons from best Korea since 2022, if you go to the grocery store and buy some steak did you beg for them to give it to you or did you purchase it? I think you have misunderstood what begging means, Ukraine begs for weapons Russia buys additional weapons when needed
Talked with my Russian friend again he Said that all russians are tired of SMO. Also he told me how excited he was about getting indoor plumbing. Sure it Will take about 5 years but still he was so happy
>>476529752So Russia needs more weapons in its attack on non-Nato country? Sounds like Russia wasn't expecting the war to go on this long
>>476529043I don't care what they call it.>>476529126That's after Ukraine begged others to join, so it's ok.>>476529150>Every single country will start getting nukes and we all know how this will endThen that is how it should end.>It was a retarded behaviour. You just called Russia retarded.They attacked Ukraine, not all of the west.>Kind of like Russia when it begs North Korea and Iran?That's after Ukraine begged others to join, so it's ok.>Yet it can fuck up Russia by using 1% of their 40 year old equipment with no manpower lost. Curious.>rich kid of who inherited all his fathers wealth but is a complete pussythanks, we know>>476528469If that is what happened they were retarded.>>476529220Playing civilization is what isn't real life.
>>476529415>The elusive ethnic Russians could always move to RussiaBut these lands are traditionally russian lands? Their families have in many cases lived there for hundreds of years before Ukraine was even invented by Lenin, your analogy isn't very good since its not actually your house if we make the analogy correct, its like a communist jewish guy said to you that it is your house even though the guy inherited the house from his parents
>>476526491>not everyone has the balls to use nukesYeah well let the record show that only the good ol' USA has had the sack for that level of total victory. Putin couldn't hold Truman's gym bag.
>>476530151>Then that is how it should end.what an edgy boy you are.
>>476528135Damn
>>476530151>Then that is how it should end.>We should all die>They attacked Ukraine, not all of the west.So they will have to be put in place through Ukraine. Shameless landgrabs cannot be tolerated.>That's after Ukraine begged others to join, so it's ok.Which means it is okay from both sides and you should stop crying about it.>thanks, we knowAmazing cope, monkey
>>476529951Sure, no doubt about it, Putin made a terrible mistake in thinking NATO wouldn't interfere and send one of the largest money/weapons supply in human history
>>476526338holy kek it's like something out of monty python
>>476530362I know, right?
>>476530214Actually they are Kyiv lands. Kyiv Rus are the original Russians way before Moscow was even founded. Muscovite Russians are secondary Russians.
>>476530246Yes. Back then the US had balls. They turned into pussies directly after using the nukes, it's nuts.
>>476529586How do they lie compared to jeets? Like in a way of getting their goals (taking jobs they're not qualified for or faking credentials) or is it in a weird Asian autistic way where people lie to you to save face?
>>476526338BRIIIING OUT YER DEEEEEADBRING OUT YER DEEEEAD!
>>476526342nice to see that even US democrats are basically calling russians subhuman at this point. nature is healing
>>476530435So its attirition war between Russia and collective West and Russia's economy is the size of Italy's. Goid luck, zigger :)
>>476530486>bumtouching>attack cum>egg cucks@ukr_pics admin did this
>>476530362kek
>>476530651> bottom pic???no way
>>476530613
>>476525554HAHAHAHA! Russia is winning too slowly!
>>4765306722 more weeks
>>476529772>Also he told me how excited he was about getting indoor plumbing>indoor plumbing
>>476530613Both. t. Eastern Ukrainian.
>>476530593>Back then the US had balls. They turned into pussies directly after using the nukes, it's nuts.Pussy enough to dominate Brazilian politics throughout the cold war.
>>476530500Checked, we already had this conversation, Russia was not a singular entity until much later on, there were many russian principalities and republics and princedoms, one even had a lot of finns in it (Novgorod) area that is called Ukraine today was destroyed and occupied by the eastern steppe hordes
If only you knew how brown things really are
>>476531086They do be like that.
>>476531040Sounds like there wasn't anything in current Moscow area at that time. So Kyiv Rus are the og Russians and muscovites some secondary Russians.
>>476530757>you lie to dominate othersOh LMAO now I know just how entrenched Jewish behavior is on Russians
>>476526491So Ukraine has soft power to get what they need from the west. How is that weakness?The pick is the russian concept of strength and manliness. Is that what you subscribe to?
>>476529574Nook oook is far more effective before employment than after.That's the whole reason these pidor terrorists constantly bloviate and ventilate about it.No, the systems in russia will not launch a nuke due to their failed imperial war in Ukraine.They want you to believe it though, creating fear in the general populace is the primary attack vector for terrorists after all.Negotiating with terrorists on their terms is not a strategy that will make the terrorist stop.It will invite the terrorist to push it further and further.You need to push back.*Not* pushing back has more risks of nuclear escalation than pushing back as conflicts flare and subside.
>>476530403>>476530298>if we both use knives in our fight for complete victory we can both diePussy behavior>So they will have to be put in place through Ukraine. Shameless landgrabs cannot be tolerated.Pussy behavior>Which means it is okay from both sides and you should stop crying about it.No, because Ukraine did it first and it was unbecoming.
>>476526342>Because of course Donald doesn't like democracy advocatesNo, because giving up criminals to russia will just encourage them to kidnap more people for the "exchange fund". You're literally engaging in giving in to terrorists.
>>476530672Ukraine has lost 8 million from its population since 2014, Russia has gained millions more during the same time period, I think the attritional war is favoring Russia a lot, did you think money is thrown in the trench and it fights the battles instead of people? Also in terms of just sheer number of many things needed Russia is winning, they have 5x more artillery shells available at any given time according to ukrainians
>>476526062I wonder why they haven’t hit Kinef yet. That looks like a prime target.
>>476531040And yet you still can't answer why displaying the symbols of Kievan Rus in public is illegal in Russia, while Russia is using the mongolian symbology, and why Ukraine calls it "Rus" while Russia calls it "Ros". Where did the U go?
maybe i'm paranoid but that memeflag zigger is giving me the weirdest marxio vibes. he's got the exact same level of faggy smugness
>>476531324Thank you for conceding, monkey. Keep preteding you are retarded.
>>476531318It's not about le newkes. Me and you will be sent to the trenches just like Ukraininas are being sent now. And we will kill each other.
>>476531017By crying for it because they were getting beat up. Yes, it's pussy behavior.>The pick is the russian concept of strength and manliness. Is that what you subscribe to?That sounds right to me.
>>476530927Equally depraved as the dalits. Got it. TZD
>>476531324So your problem with Ukraine is that they chose to fight back instead of surrendering to Russia. You sound whiny bitch
>>476527064But Russia has not meet it's strategic goals. Every goal after 03.22 is pure cope. It lost too.
>>476531318> *Not* pushing back has more risks of nuclear escalation — than pushing back — as conflicts flare and subside.Least bloodthristy German.
>>476531519No, my problem is they started crying for help from everyone.
>>476530613Vranyo is a Russian word that specifically means "I'm bullshitting, i know I'm bullshitting, you know I'm bullshitting, but you are gonna let me get away with it because we don't feel like dealing with the truth." At least that is how i remember it. Perun made a long video on it on youtube that's quote interesting. The Polish guy said that Russians lie for dominance, basically "i can tell you outrageous lies because i am more important than you, and you are gonna eat shit and smile." The leaders of Russia are those who can get away with the biggest lies.
>>476531351>No, because giving up criminals to russia will just encourage them to kidnap more people for the "exchange fund". You're literally engaging in giving in to terrorists.Yeah, it's crazy how little these actual mechanics make it into the high tiers of discusison.Not just in this matter but in general.It's the wors game of telelphone.
>>476531506>>476531309>>476531017We were weak, yes.
>>476531222Checked and kekd, yeah they were both russians not ukrainians which is a communist invention from the 1900s
>>476530500Actually its all Onogundur khanate lands (Bulgaria). Look into it.
>>476531309If you're able to stay hard enough to fuck a guy, then that means you're turned on by fucking guys.
>>476531669Fun fact about the etymology of the word "вpaть" (infinitive of "vranyo")>pic related>How do you know that a Russian is lying? >He speaks.
>>476530921The dream of a zigger. Only the truly blessed can afford such luxury
>>476531489I have no idea what conclusion you came to.
>>476531645So if Brazil got attacked by a stronger nation you would let them take over your country, steal your shit, burn your cities and rape you people because it's "pussy behaviour" to ask for assistance? Sounds pretty retarded.
>>476531440>And yet you still can't answer why displaying the symbols of Kievan Rus in public is illegal in RussiaThis is very funny in particular, since the so called jewish symbol of Ukraine was the coat of arms of Rurik (its a pray bird diving at its victim).
>>476531440Its pretty obvious, Ukraine uses the symbol so its illegal to advocate for the opposing side>while Russia is using the mongolian symbologyWhat symbol would that be? >why Ukraine calls it "Rus" while Russia calls it "Ros". Where did the U go?Notice how its not called ukrainians at any point only variation of rus as in russian
>>476531374It sounds like Russia has problems to produce enough mili tech because the working age men are send to Ukraine 30k men a month. And Russian export profits are diminishing.Which means Russia is wasting 30k men a month causing work firce shortage and Russia is also losing money. And this is against single country not in Nato, no Nato troops there and we at day 890 of the planned 3 days SMO to capture Kyiv. With current pace Russian troops would reach Kyiv in 2026-2027.
>>476532011That you are a monkey that pretends to be retarded
>>476531374>gainedHow do you figure russia gained anything? They’ve had their most productive demographic flee in droves, they’re replacing them with Islamist churkas, and they gained some kidnapped Ukrainians who are clearly getting their revenge right now inside Russia. Gazprom is running at a loss, China is buying Siberia, the T-54 is back to front line assault tank status, the ruble is worth about one cent, the Russian central bank leadership is alternating between metaphorically stripping the copper wire out of the economy while Russia has even lost control of Armenia. All this and more in exchange for some stolen land that they’re killing a thousand Russians per square mile over. You can spin this however you want. The fact is this has been a catastrophe for Russia and is thus far the defining political blunder of the 21st century.
>>476532099You're not making any sense anymore.
>>476529008>doesn't control those areas so how can they demand themDoesn't stop russia from doing that
>>476531948>>476531669Thanks for the crumbs
>>476531948> this entire post
>>476532043This is a pretty cool (post-fact) explanation too. Very creative reading.
>>476531780Russia is a swedish invention and therfore rightful swedish clay.
>>476532017If we had to start crying to everyone for help, yes.
>>476532547I think Mongols also have rightful claim on Russian lands
It's hereThe darkest month of the year
>>476532058>Ukraine uses the symbolAnd they have been using it since the 9th century>What symbol would that be?The unicorn, which has been used in Russia from 14th to 17th century is a Golden Horde symbol. Then they switched to double headed eagly for some reason instead of Kievan Rus symbols.>Notice how its not called ukrainians at any point only variation of rus as in russianRussian not Rossian. Ukrainians would say Rus. Russians would say Rossia. Once again I ask, where did the U hgo?
>>476532207>ook ook
>>476532641okay - then you can just die alone i guess. works for me
>>476532075International monetary fund disagrees and there are tens of millions of russian men and there are only 520 000 men at the front, is your economy hugely affected when 0,5-1% of the male population goes through conscription yearly? >An influential global body has forecast Russia's economy will grow faster than all of the world's advanced economies, including the US, this year.>The International Monetary Fund (IMF) expects Russia to grow 3.2% this year, significantly more than the UK, France and Germany.https://www.bbc.com/news/business-68823399
>>476532641When you die, you can always think how manly you were for dying. Just like those fresh zigger soldiers sent to die in Ukraine. By the way, Russia is currently recruiting. I think it would be big money to brazilian
lol, Ukraine goes for a Zigger's most valuable ass-et
>>476530362vid
>>476531492You're entitled to your opnion but I thin you're wrong.We started talking about F16 and how it probably will be a big benefit but not a major outsize one like himars.We agreed on that.I decided to vent my frustration at the lack of firm pushback against pidors imperialist project and how it's likely to make this world we live in worse in the medium term at the very least.You brought up WW3 to which I (not unreasonably I believe) assumed outright direct conflict and nuclear exchange/brinksmanship.You then asserted that WW3 is not about nukes which is also not unreasonable given that conventional war could well be the mainstay of such nebulous concept of WW3 you brought up.I think our core disagreement and my pissed-off-ness is about your evocation of "WW3" which I see as a very vague, flexible symbol that has been commonly used by peaceniks that misassess ignorantly or malicously the critical inflection point we are at and further inflection points we face with each passing week, month, year now.Arguably "WW3" is already going on, we just haven't aknowledged it yet.>“You were given the choice between war and dishonour. You chose dishonour, and you will have war.' - To Neville Chamberlain”― Winston Churchill
>>476532233Checked, I was only using the point that Czech anon used first, here is the quote>Russia was invited to many peace conferences. They just always pussied out, because they want land they don't control and know that demanding something you don't even control is just retarded.
>>476532708Fall Equinox is at September 22 tho..?
>>476532872>International monetary fundWhy are you brown? IMF doesn't measure or predict shit by itself, it republishes data sent by member states. So the 3.2% data is a figure from russian government and they just lie. They've classified a ton of actual economic indicators specifically so that they couldn't be called out on their bullshit.Also, 3.2% growth of shit economy is less growth than 1% growth of strong economy. Learn how economic growth works.
>>476531607It's not about bloodthirst.I'd wish pidors would just all go home.This is about the actual asessment of the situation we are facing here.And we'd be best served in judging it according to what we want to see rather than what our enemy - which must be considered an enemy at this point but in too many cases isnt - wants us to fear.
>>476532708>Mr. Augustus came>Down Tagil home dead>Special ops russiano dead>Omsk refinery deadAnd it's only the first day. Scared to think what will come...
>>476532819If you want help you have to do set up your alliances before, otherwise it's gay.>>476532923That's actually a lot of money.
>>476532641lmao, imagine losing the will to live this much. It's like your genetic code is begging you to kill yourself. >>476532708No, it's a long-standing observation that most problems, catastrophes and destruction happen in Russia in August.
>>476533022See, you were upset that the West isn't pushing hard enough. I say "hard enough" involves you and possibly me. What's harder than boots on the ground?
>>476532872As I previously said, good luck trying to out-spend and out-wait collective West. The men sent to Ukraine who die, don't come back and Russian war economy pushing out mil tech designed to get destroyed don't bring profit to Russia or its people
>>476532075Russia is literally burning money to keep the invasion going while at the same time having to run a country. It seems even the revenue of oil and gas is not enough anymore to support the country, and that is saying much given how most money went to moscow and st petersburg anyway and not to the regions. This banker woman nabulina, she may be just talking BS and giving false information in order to distort the truth and confuse people but there is also a high posibility that what she said is the truth and the russian economy is exhausted.
>>476532714>Then they switched to double headed eagly for some reasonIvan III's royal marriage with Byzantine emperor's niece in 1472. And Byzantine had double headed eagle already by that time.
>>476532412>>476532390Another fun fact - doctor in Russian is literally "liar". Most Slavic languages have the word as "healer" and only Russian..."vrach" - the one who lies.
>>476532872Can you articulate by what means the economy is growing? Is it from a sustainable source of investment or is it from Russia sinking it's finite sovereign wealth fund into military production?This money will run out, as due to sanctions, Russian revenue streams are barely enough to sustain the extraction of raw materials, which they are selling below market price.Add to this the lack of manpower for productivity, as most people have either left the country or been drafted, and you see that the Russian economy is running on a limited battery.The sovereign wealth fund is a lit fuse... Once it's gone, the economy is over.
>>476532547Not really, rurik wasn't even swedish according to russian genetic studies, his haplogroup apparently was n1c1 which is not associated with swedish people and within one generation his family was slavicized
>>476533120 ---------- >>476533270
>>476533250>That's actually a lot of money.There we go! You are manly tough guy, I'm sure you survive long enough to star in some zigger gire webm
>>476533369Putin doesn't care. Russia have seen worse and it still stands. Putin knows that.
>>476533448Yeah they never really were Kievan Rus. They just like to larp as Kievan Rus.
>>476533198Nah.Unpopular opinion, but if partial zigger death materializes the restoration of Ukraine's 1991 borders, then I will accept.If we'lp have a Second Cold War that lasts 200 years, then so be it.
>>476525554ok someone poast the unaltered? where is it from?
Konstantin Samoilov (INSIDE RUSSIA) saying that war propaganda is being removed from billboards, schools, and in general there's small casual talk of peace allowed in institutions and TV.According to him, its because of the bad economy, and China refusing to work with Russia out of fear of USA sanctions.Thoughts?
Ukraines and the west is getting its ass kicked. They don't have a single victory to show for. its a sports team with a very low rate. Why you guys obsessed with shitty teams?
>>476532666Obviously central russia and far east is mongolian, chinese but also the autonomous republics (which have been occupied and almost destroyed) have a strong claim, the western russiab muts have no land of their own.
>>476533501According to swedish studies he was.
>>476533535Sounds like Putin's life is running on this war
>>476533577>They just like to larp as Kievan Rus.And as Byzantines at the same time, which is where their claims on Constantinople/Istanbul come from.
>>476532714>And they have been using it since the 9th centuryThere was no such thing as Ukraine until Lenin invented it, pic related is the original ukrainian flag>Then they switched to double headed eagly for some reason instead of Kievan Rus symbols.Ever heard of the roman empire? >Once again I ask, where did the U hgo?Once again I repeat its rossian or russian but never ukrainian because there were no ukrainians at the time, it hadn't been invented yet
>>476533272Actually sending as much equipment as we can.We aren't even doing that.
>>476533721If Russia makes peace tomorrow, keeping Donbas, Luhansk and Crimea, and surrendering land it has formally annexed and is de jure russian back to Ukraine, would you consider this a russian victory?
>>476533846How so?
>>476533907Yeah, that's sad. Unless, of course the dreaded WW3 is about to happen, then you'll really need that equipment.
>>476533721When Russia's cope is to have other countries let Russia win, it implies grim things about Russia's capabilities
>>476533855They can try. Turkey is now the only Black Sea superpower.
>>476533289Even Afganistan did that, should be no problem >>476533453I'm not an expert in economics, I leave that to the international monetary fund which says russian economy is growing faster than any developed economy this year
>>476533650Phyrric victory for Ukraine, comes to mind.
>>476533650nice message to all third world shitholes. kill, steal land and kids but only for 2 years. then you talk about peace, keep stolen land and it's all good.
>>476533525I wonder how difficult it would be to learn Russian and getting to kill some piggies wouldn't be that bad either.
>>476533814Swedes did studies on genetics about Rurikids? Can I see those? Russians did too and according to those Ruriks paternal line was not swedish
>>476533945Do you think if Putin suddenly decided to pull out the Russian people wouldn't start to ask what good it was to waste 500k Russian men and tanking Russian economy and international credibility for no gains? Remind me again what happened to Russian czars who lost wars?
>>476534283u first
>>476533937why give anything back to a dead land. What Ukranian millionare living abroad wants to go back to Ukraine? West destroyed their country and its going serve a eternal example what happens when your a money mans proxy nigger, Ukraine and when Americucks start dying for pissrael in Iran.
>>476525554>picrel Does that orc have a glass eye or something?
>>476534049The equipment is already doing what it's supposed to do and every weakening of pidorstan is already a weakening of its position in ww3 should it be so absolutey, ming-bogglingly stupid as to do it.If you want to stop ww3 then stop imperial expansionism.It's not like we haven't had this shit twice before.
>>476534243You're a fatass though, don't lie now
>>476531607Si vis pacem...
>>476534301Yes, I think so. No, it will not be like with Russian tzars.
>>476534243They take anyone they can get. Do it! I will salute the webm of you getting droned
>>476534407Ok, Fritz, I will do my best to stop imperial expansionism.
>>476534106>I leave that to the international monetary fund which says russian economy is growing faster than any developed economy this yearRussian central banker Elvira says the economy is overheating due to too much government spending, too high inflation, too high interest rates, and general labour shortages. I trust her to tell me the minimum version of all Russian problems, given who she is and who she works for, and she says 70% (!!!) of industries say the leading cause of their problems is labour shortage.And this was said just before China refused to accept Russian payments, including in yuan, because they didn't want their USD holdings to be considered "dirty" by USA sanctions.
>>476531669
>>476533272wapens, negro
>>476526102>>>Saviors of white people
>>476534352You haven't answered the question asked. Please answer this question, as presented:If Russia makes peace tomorrow, keeping Donbas, Luhansk and Crimea, and surrendering land it has formally annexed and is de jure russian back to Ukraine, would you consider this a russian victory?
>>476525554wtf kind of a abomination mutt is that?i guess is over for us hue, we can't even be the monkey man anymore.pack it up, folks.
>>476534530I know, we both can't do much on our own but I strive to at least have a realistic outlook on the world in regards to what I want to see in it.Fuck stoicism, it's a slave mentality.
>>476533250Please join the puccian military and become one of the idiots Putin has tricked into cubification, like this guy or idiots from Cuba and Nepal
>>476534698
>>476526281That's a complete nonstarter. We must do away with the delusion that 1991 borders will ever return.
>>476533021
So, what is /uhg/'s explanation for Russia gaining more ground everyday despite Ukraine being supplied by the entire west?2 more weeks until Russia collapses?
>>476533870>Lenin invented itBack to /leftypol/, lying nigger>Ever heard of the roman empire?AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA>Once again I repeat its rossian or russianWhy does the every european calls it Rus and not Ros? Why is it, that Russia calls it the same as Mongolia and other asiatic countries would call it with an O? Because Russia isn't the rightful successor of Kievan Rus. It was always Rus with an U, everybody in Europe called it that since the tale of Čech, Lech and Rus. Russia, which is basically just an asiatic invader calls it Ros, like Mongolia and other asians. Unless you stop deflecting this point of discussion, you are a rusnigger hiding behind a memeflag and cannot be trusted.
>>476534773>posting the lucky pidor POWs that get humane treatment in Ukrainian run imprisonmentshiggy
>>476533721We have things in common like respecting each other, respecting each others borders, cultures and traditions being civilized. Your mentality is that of an agressive animal.
>>476534818Nah. 1991 borders and Russia oaying reparations. Until then, TZD continues.
>>476526342>Zogniggerdon is totally a puppet of Russia, guise!>There are totally American politicians who don't suck Jew dick! Ok glownigger
https://gab.com/StrikeTheKike/posts/112888457069266868Russians released as part of the deal
>>476534702its already a dead conquered land. Think Europe 100 years from now Islamized but in a span of a decade cause they got super jewed. Ukraines just another war is bad example like ww1-2 but this time strictly for west cucks.
>>476525554Hey look its that ukrainian that fled to finland and has no job or skills making threads again.Tell me how does it feel to be such a humongous pussy?
>>476534881>that flag>that post Russians and Sovoks know that gaining land does not a victory make. Every vatnik will quickly dust out operation Barbarosa, and Napoleon's invasion, and so on.Please drop the flag if you will pretend an advancing army means victory ensured.
We actually got Kara-Murza? I genuinely believed he was going to rot in there forever. based.
>>476534970Trump criticizing it shows that he doesn't like Russia you fucking imbecile. Nobody implied he is a puppet of Russia, because he isn't.
>>476534967Eventually you'll run out of Ukrainian men if that's the plan. What happens then?
>>476533721https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAlXu60t7AYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vgP_G-Qo2ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afi5IsRO6oAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voMVSd0minEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmWyggUeIvAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T_S3uxvbqUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UiSrDYrc3II mean if you stick your head in the sand yea it might look one sided.
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>>476533535By western standards Russia is a toddler, crawling around since 1991. You have to stand up to fall down. This time it will be worse than the soviet union collapse. Kremlin elites will be fine though.
>>476526033>he fell for zele's ruse
>>476534314You could have easily googled it>The Rurikids were the reigning house of Rus’, its principalities and, ultimately the Tsardom of Russia, for seven centuries: from the IX to the end of the XVI century. According to the Primary Chronicle (the Tale of Bygone Years), the main chronicle of Rus’, the Rurik dynasty was founded by the Varangian prince Rurik, invited to reign in Novgorod in 862, but still there is no direct genetic evidence of the origin of the early Rurikids. This research, for the first time, provides a genome-wide paleogenetic analysis of bone remains belonging to one of the Rurikids, Prince Dmitry Alexandrovich (?–1294), the son of the Grand Prince of Vladimir Alexander Yaroslavich Nevsky (1221–1263). It has been established that his Y chromosome belongs to the N1a haplogroup>The most probable ancestors of Prince Dmitry Alexandrovich in the male line were the men who left the burial ground Bolshoy Oleny Island on the coast of the Kola Peninsula about 3,600 years agohttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10615192/
>>476535176kek denys is that you?
>>476535035You haven't answered the question asked, again. Please scroll up to re-read it, and answer it.If for 3 posts in a row you fail to understand what a hypothetical is, and are physically and mentally unable to answer a hypothetical question, I will have to conclude that you have orangutans in your not-too-distant bloodline.
>>476535128>Because of course Donald doesn't like democracy advocates who stand up to authoritarians like Putin or Trump himself.His words.
>>476535163I doubt Russian production with workforce shortage and economy tanking would reach that long
>>476534106>says russian economy is growing faster than any developed economyYou don't understand what this means in the context of Russia's current situation. You see number go up and that satisfies you, completely ignorant to how these numbers are arrived at, and what is required to create them.You're mindless cattle.
>>476535082So when is Russia going to stop advancing and start losing? What move is Ukraine going to play?
>>476535236That doesn't imply Trump is a Russian puppet. Stop pretending to be retarded and show flag instead.
>>476526281>1991 borders and Russia paying reparationsIncredibly soft conditions. Literally "just return stolen lunch money and say you are sorry".When the war ends Putin is going to get Gaddafi's by his own glowie friends for not taking it when he had the chance.
>>476535282Perfidious Albion Go die in a muddy ditch in oinkraine
>>476535270America has too much going on right now with a potential Israeli-Iranian conflict. Plus Russia has China on its side.Eventually, the US will get tired of pumping money into an unwinnable effort, just like they did in Vietnam and Afghanistan.
>>476535472As articulate a response I would expect from somebody who struggles with facts.
>>476535580>Plus Russia has China on its sidekek
>>476535176this is taking battles in a span of week oh looks bad for russians day 2!! Forgets to mention the Russians win in the end.
>>476535223Same nigger go google it now and russians would never lie and invent shit to benefit themselves,
>>476534106Let's say Russia's economy was size 10 and the collective West economy was size 200. Russia's economy grows 10%, making it size 11 economy. Collective West's ecconomy grows only 5% making it's economy size 210.As you can see, bigger percentage growth don't make Russia that much stronger if the bigger economies were already dozens of times bigger
>>476525554>Russian court declared that Finland gommitted gemocide on Russian territory in WW2 :DDDDDDPls fix it up in next bread
>>476534352>What Ukranian millionare living abroad wants to go back to UkraineYou have no idea how much investment capital will be pumped into Ukraine in the rebuilding effort? It's a gold mine for every enterprenuer. So yeah , jobs for years and money to be made.It's just requires TZD for security reasons.
>>476534967They should also return Karelia, occupied Prussia, all the occupied Ukrainian land, far east, Manchuria and allow autonomous republics to secede.
>>476535795That is fucking hilarious
>>476535366The Russian war goal is to:1. Change the government of Ukraine.2. Make sure Ukraine doesn't join EU.3. Make sure Ukraine doesn't join NATO.4. Make sure it gets a landbridge to Crimea, so it can support its naval base and rebuild its navy.As long as these aren't true, Russia is losing. They are failing to achieve their objectives. That's what losing means.Taking New York village is not a Russian war goal, and its not winning. That's not what the war is fought over. That's not what Russia lost its foreign assets for, and not what drunks are getting paid full year wages to go and die for. That's not what Finnish neutrality was abandoned for. That's not what troops were retreated from Syria for. That's not what Wagner was handicapped for. That's not winning.
>>476535666China is rapidly replacing the US as the world superpower, while American influence is decreasing every year. The longer this war goes on, the more America will be exposed as a paper tiger and the more its "friends" will realize this and seek closer ties with the East. The cracks are showing.
>>476535206Zelenskys ruse is to make as much money for himself and his friends in the arms industry on the expense of hundreds of thousands of ukrainian lives, I think it was you who fell for the ruse, he ran as a peace candidate afterall, Zelensky has truly raped Ukraine
>>476535872lmao
>>476534516How much does Ukraine pay though?
>>476535223Even if that selective view of history was true (it is not) none of this justifies invading, killing many dozens of thousands of people, kidnapping dozens of thousands of children, bombing the entire country, comitting horrific warcrimes and threatening everyone who wants to stop your murder with nukes.Futhermore I conclude that muscovy must be destroyed.
>>476535861This war goal is completely unacceptable to Ukraine, as it would have no security guarantees from anyone, and would be completely beholden to Russian interests. An outcome like this may as well just be Ukraine joining the Russian Federation, because it's equivalent to becoming Belarus.
>>476535282UK is one of the weakest performing economies in Europe according to the IMF>Away from Russia, the IMF downgraded its forecasts across Europe and for the UK this year, predicting 0.5% growth this year, making the UK the second weakest performer across the G7 group of advanced economies, behind Germany.
>>476535580>Plus Russia has China on its side.The sane China who sends Russia scooters and golf carts but not wespons as China doesnt want to lose Western markets? The same China whi refuses to buy more from Russia despite being one of the few countries still trading with Russia. The sane China who now controls Russia's foreign trade currency abd who doesn't mind if Russia grows even more dependent of China as Russia gets weaker? What a great ally for Russia
>>476534850Should Ukraine drop cheap phones with UA simcards into Russian trenches? Because Russia is cracking down on personal gadgets right now.
>>476535669Just a few examples from this month, what did you want outdated info. Go watch some videos on that channel, but you wont because youre actually throwing meat waves into the grinder at 6-1 losses despite only having 3.7x the population of Ukraine. Not sustainable gomrade.
>>476535666You can't deny that Russia does indeed have Chinese support. Of course they're not sworn best friends but it's in China's interest that Ukraine loses the war so they will keep supplying Russia>>476535861Ah, so what you're saying is Russia can take pretty much whatever they want east of Kiev and as long as they don't hit those 4 goals it's an epic Ukraine win? I thought Zelensky said they will never agree to cede territory to Russia no matter what
>>476535872Ah yes "China numbah 1 pls invest and buy our crap ;_;"
>>476535899He hasn't though. All your 'evidence' of corruption is fake and all you have is a deep seated feeling that he must be corrupt because he's the leader. It's all projection.Putin has two Superyachts, I wonder how he afforded those.
>>476535861>not what drunks are getting paid full year wages to go and die for.They are not getting paid if they die (that has been the plan all along)
>>476536111China/Russia are also keeping the war going so as to force America to exhaust even more resources. This is a long-term strategic plan.Russia probably could've decisively won by now, but they're playing the long game.
>>476535779Bigger economy does not automatically mean a robust military production as can be seen from russian superiority in producing artillery shells for example, all of US and Europe combined cant compete in many areas due to their corrupt systems, you cant shoot numbers from a screen from an artillery gun
>>476535179This guys from Israel he doesnt realize Gab blocks Israeli posters.
>>476535852We dont want Karelia. It smells of Russian and Russia''s neglect of maintaining would make it a miney sink for us. I think Finland and Estonia could share St Pidorsburg russua won't need access to Baktic sea
>>476536084So what? That's not relevant to the war in Ukraine.
>>476536226>You can't deny that Russia does indeed have Chinese support.lmao show flag you pussy faggot
>>476536081Yes, which is why Russia will not achieve their wargoals unless they utterly crush Ukraine and force Europe to accept this fact. And that simply isn't happening.Taking villages in Eastern Ukraineis progress, but its progress towards the Dnipro, not progress towards victory. Victory won't be achieved even if they take all the land all the way to the river (very unlikely atm).>>476536282There are big signing-on fees, several thousand dollars from state and region, in cash and in material goods, literally on the same day that you sell your life away. So it is expensive.And there are promised money and benefits to relatives if you die, and at least some of those have to be paid as well, also very expensive.
>>476535826extremely delusional nobody want to visit or live in a mined bombed out country. Wtf would anyone invest money in yokel farmville with a dumbass populace and boring landscape.This is the funniest position to defend. People thinking Ukraine would end up like hong kong and switzerland
>>476536230You're right, we should buy American products instead.
>>476535872But America is not even fighting. It's Russia that is fighting and revealed itself a paper tiger
>>476536050Why did Ukraine start butchering russians after the american coup then? Tens of thousands were killed according to the United Nations
>>476536397Show your argument first
Gab blocked Israelis because they were shilling all sorts of disgusting trash and nonsense disinformation. Fighting with themselves. Saying anti-jewish things but in a way made to make jews look good.They cut off Israel and the shilling stopped for like 1.5 days, it was nearly perfect and then the jews bought VPNs. Started up again. But for one day we saw what it was like to not be shilled by JIDF.
>>476536520Ukraine is an American proxy. Despite the hundreds of billions in aid that keep pouring in, Ukraine has really not made any progress in the last year.
>>476525554>>Russian court declared that Finland gommitted gemocide on Russian territory in WW2 :DDDDDDDa, Finland is actually evil, comrade. Please pay no attention to the Finns we forced out of their homes when we conquered part of Karellia. Viipuri? Don't you mean Vyborg, tovarisch?
>>476535223The Inconsistencies of History: Vikings And Rurikhttps://www.jstor.org/stable/40922182https://brill.com/display/book/9789004395190/BP000022.xmlVarangians were Western Slavs and that the name of the Russians derived ... evidence produced by archaeological excavations around Rurik's Stronghold
>>476536367I'm pretty sure it wasn't even offered to you, and Finns frankly are too weak and pacified to take it back by force, Swedish slave material
>>476536226>Ah, so what you're saying is Russia can take pretty much whatever they want east of Kiev and as long as they don't hit those 4 goals it's an epic Ukraine win? I thought Zelensky said they will never agree to cede territory to Russia no matter whatHe won't agree to cede land, even if that land is captured. Which is why it can never be developed. Which is why it will remain an ulcer that bleeds and exausts Russia. Occupying people and land that don't want to be occupied is very expensive, materially and spiritually, for a state. It is very expensive diplomatically, and will drain your soft power and influence, and prevent its regeneration. Its simply not worth it.
>>476536315>Russia actually wants to lose 30k men a month and tank it's economy and international credibility in favor of ChinaI see.
>>476536116I do hope they ban youtube and 4chan
>>476535223>N1aThe Rurikids were Chinese
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>>476536319>russian superiority in producing artillery shellsSo why they need to buy N Korean shells that are inferior?
>>476536319The west is still running a peacetime economy and giving Ukraine surplus.You are correct about shells, but that's for the simple fact that doctrinally, artillery saturation isn't a strategy NATO uses, so shell reserves were never as high, because NATO values precision over indiscriminate destruction.It takes time to spin up production, but the latent ability to do this is there, due to the fact western economy is so much bigger.
>>476536555China is getting land leased from Russia for nearly free. Chinese banks are refusing to give yuan to Russia. Chinese companies are leaving Russia. China is scamming Russia out of money. China is refusing paying market price for gas and oil. China is refusing to pay for projects that bring gas and oil in China. Chinese companies working on these projects are leaving Russia. China is giving Russia fucking golf carts. Russia is basically a bitch of China doing their bidding while getting nothing in return.
>>476536509LMAO and Air China uses both Airbus and Boeings retard
>>476536720>memeflagI dont remember asking.
>>476536572show flag!
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>>476536751What is this cope? If that was true then Russia wouldn't have annexed it and also I'm sure Crimea and the occupied Donbas territories had bled Russia dry a lot before the war. They are already moving in a bunch of Russian migrants into that land and they will occupy it permanently as long as Ukraine doesn't take it back by force somehow
>whole thread filled with rusnigger shills malding
>>476536499I do not know the details but I don't believe that the sign-on payment is paid on the spot, they must have some kind time period, at least a couple or days after the soldier passes the training (often he is dead or better "missing" already by that time)
I can bake if needed
>>476536992Nah I dont think so not with laws about house arrest without trial over racist things said online and retroactive application to before the law is passed coming out soon. And life in prison for holocaust denial. No I think Ill keep being a pseudo American with pseudo-free speech rights.
>>476537207no coward bakes pls
>>476537220>>476536992Oh and the captcha was XRAYS but I hit post too fast. Irony.
>>476536524That's what happens when a hostile power backs separatists with military force to steal your territory. People shoot at each other.
>>476536713All I know for sure is that rurikids were not swedish, that was invented by swedes themselves to create a mythos that is as real as the hebrew story about Samson, I'll take a look at that later though
>>476533021cat playing with mouse, lmao
>>476537220I know that Russia jails people for saying bad things about minorities for up to 15 years. You don't have to worry about house arrest. You have to worry about getting sent to some sandnigger south to get beat up over bad mouthing the quaran.
>>476537311Show flag, rusnigger.
>>476537220
>>476537097>shows poos in loos crashing a boat>blames Americans
>>476537323Anon Russia is actually not as bad as the NATO country Im from. Russia doesnt give life for words.
>>476537267This
>>476537311u sound very retarded
>>476537323https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/canadian-bill-could-imprison-people-for-life-for-promoting-genocide-this-is-insane-canada-arif-virani-hate-speech-discrimination-jail-conviction-elon-musk-margaret-atwoodThis is retroactive once past, so things said in the past - the holocaust never happened = life in prison at some future date.
>>476537404we all suggest you move to russia, retard>nonotlikethat
>>476536897>headcanonI think you've not realized that it's not in Chinese interests to have the one strong ally they have to lose when NATO and the US are constantly keeping them from invading Taiwan
>>476537404Only 7 years for swaping supermaket price labels with Ukrainian flags
>>476537404So move to Russia, then.
"gas the kikes ha ha!"Life in prison.
>>476536649>Ukraine is an American proxy. Despite the hundreds of billions in aid that keep pouring in, Ukraine has really not made any progress in the last year.So you're saying we've stopped mighty Russia by a tiny proxy armed only with old throw-away weapons and hand me downs?>muh f16Retired past their usefulness and stripped of any possible sensitive equipment. Is what you're saying ?Gotcha
>>476536884Why does anybody buy stuff from other countries? Its often convenient, especially with NK since its incredibly cheap>>476536895>NATO values precision over indiscriminate destruction.So why does Russia have vastly more precision guided munitions then? Its pretty rare to hear about ukrainians doing missile strikes, Russia uses like 50-100 missiles a week, sometimes more>western economy is so much bigger.If its so much bigger then why is Ukraine saying Russia has a significant advantage in terms of equipment?
>>476537163>commie flag>doesn't know why decolonization happenedIts expensive to occupy people and land that don't want to be occupied. Its not worth it economically. Its poisoning your diplomatic image. Its poisoning your people's sense of self and worth and the identity and virtue of your nation. You are having to build infrastructure in place where people will not support it, or will actively destroy it, in order to hope that place has economic value. You have to pay wages for many police and soldiers per person, and much burocracy per person, to control them and repress them into obidience. And spending all that money, most of which you won't get back, only gets you insulted by their diaspora poets and singers and activist, and called evil orcs by all other nations, and not invited anywhere. Gets your tourists harrassed, gets your athletes mocked, gets your defectors and traitors celebrated and welcomed and made celebrities.We've seen this movie already, and if your meme flag represented you in any way, you'd know how it ends.
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>>476537404>Russia doesnt give life for words.
>>476535795Ebin :DDDD
>>476537323>>476537534Fuck all the current shit on both sides of this and stay true to freedom.
>>476537684Thats 5 years. Im literally talking a life sentence for gas jew memes.
>>476537564>Strong allyLMAO more like useful idiot
>>476537404>NATO country Im fromThat's a kneeslapper. Show flag nigger. If they are monitoring, they know you are posting form "NATO country". They don't care about you showing flag. Also just the fact that you said "NATO country" makes you an obvious third world shill, because no westoid would ever say "NATO country" they would just say "country". Now show flag you pussy faggot.
>>476537564>strong allyLmao show flag, rusnigger
>>476537698You never have to think about this as an American but say I was British. I should pretend Im American, because British police only IP request British citizens not everyone globally. Pretending to be American = safety from IP requests over domestic hate speech laws.
>>476537654>IlliterateI just told you they are moving Russian migrants there. You're not smarter than the Russian government, the fact that they annexed that land confirms that they will take all the steps to ensure holding it is easy
>>476537311Yes ur headcanon is so valid it justifies everything. History claims to justify this invasion is fucking retarded. You'll get the rope shill.
>>476537645>So why does Russia have vastly more precision guided munitions then?Sadly, I believe the west don't want to provide Ukraine with vast amounts of cruise missiles because they're afraid of what Ukraine would do with them... It's well known that the US Navy has enough Tomahawks to wipe out the entire Black Sea Fleet without them being able to fire a shot in response.They're essentially stuck with Storm Shadows/SCALP provided by UK and France, and these are probably not available in the sheer numbers that the US possesses.
>>476537738>>476537836Again, show your argument. Apparently Russia is so weak it's gaining ground against a country backed by the entire west, all you do is cope and pretend like everything is going bad for the other side
>>476538241Let me explain it to your rusnigger ass hiding behind a memeflag:Russia is so weak it managed to take 20x20km of villages and fields in 6 months on the 2014 frontline for dozens of thousands of lives and hundreds of heavy equipment against Ukraine which is backed by 1% of 40 year old equipment from NATO. FTFY
>>476536505Donbas is not the whole country. 2 years of missile attacks does not leave the country mined. Also look at Croatia. It was a mined ruin, now it's one big resort.You won't understand, it's a European thing to build and make prosperous.
>>476538590>1% of 40 year old equipment from NATOYou mean hundreds of billions of dollars only for Ukraine to keep asking for more?
>>476538991That is not how that works, but I guess pussies hiding behind a tankie memeflag don't really understand economy so you are forgiven. Also, literal pocket change lmao.
