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It's the end for Kyle. No more salad days of summer.
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>>476649034
>The right still listens to a grown man who calls himself Catturd
Thanks for the reminder
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Roundly roasted rittenhouse run out on a rail.
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>>476649034
What do conservatives conserve, besides Israel and niggers?
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If being a living breathing can of "woman repellant" was an Olympic sport, /pol/ would have 500 Gold medalists, and like 5 million runner ups.
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>>476649034
more like chaddenhouse
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Qrd?
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>>476649034
>supporting kikes
>ever
He had it coming.
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>>476649034
Catturd fucking sucks how can anyone follow him and not blow their head off
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>>476649034
Why does Kyle support Paul over trump?
I’m neither a Paul or trump fan btw I’m just curious
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>>476649034

Trumpophiles toss Kyle on the pile after Judas-like denials.
Why Kyle?
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>>476650034
He also said he supported BLM. Why the right hallucinated that he was "based" has always been a mystery to me.
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>>476650257
>>476650034
He failed the ASVAB a test so easy even a retarded marine can pass it.
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>>476649034
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>>476649217
>I am not weird
>What does catturd2 and my favorite South African autist think about the news today
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>>476650168
Kyle is a second amendment rights activist and Trump has a bad track record even by Republican standards on the 2nd amendment
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>>476649633
Try another one. Women love spines.
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>>476649034
Based zoomer sees Trump for what he is while the emotional boomers follow their false messiah off the cliff. Kyle isn’t free to disagree with Trump he has to bow and kiss his ring forever? These people are a religious cult, especially after the fake shooting.

>Trump wouldn’t take our guns unless he has to
>The Trump confinement camps are way better than the WEF camps
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>>476649902
He did the one thing you can't do.
Everything is permitted as long as you don't do the one thing, and he did the thing.
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>>476650609
No shit? That’s weird I’d assume trump would go full ham on the 2nd amendment
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>>476649034
Rather than reflexively denounce Rittenhouse, Trump supporters should amplify him to make Trump pivot to the right (as in correct side) of the issue.
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>>476649034
Tiny homes and subsidized commie blocks aren't nazi
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>>476651369
That would require actually having principles and not being emotionally manipulable sheep.
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>>476649034
Rittenhouse is correct. Trump plays along with the establishment.
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>>476649034
>BUT MUHH CANCEL CULTURE
lol. lmao even. Why are conservatives so hypocritical?
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>>476651506

The base of the right fundamentally doesn't understand politics because they are Christians.
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Everyone wised up to Trumps con game.
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>>476651352
Trump banned bump stocks under his admin and has a history of being just about as anti 2nd amendment as Biden is, even if he isn't rhetorically anti gun rights
It was one of the more common criticisms of Trump from the right but it gets censored out and downvoted to hell (Reddit) anytime a Conservative brings a right wing criticism of Trump to the table on social media
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>>476651772
Trump really is all talk
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>>476649034
>all this talk and nobody posts the video
/pol/ is dead
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>>476651905
It’s also really old and has been seen by literally everyone here to be fair
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>>476651975
But anon I haven't seen it and I don't want to make a shitter account :(
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Rittenhouse took a bribe from some Jew Democrat Tech Titan. Kamala would be a hardcore gun grabber should would ban all assault weapons, this move makes zero sense.

Now Rittenhouse is a nobody and this will be forgotten in like 3 hours.
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>>476649034
Trump has no support besides repulsive kile rapists and brownoids!
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>>476649034
I remember writing in Ron Paul, when I was like 20. Sure, it's principled, but it's naive and a wasted vote. Not really sure why everyone is freaking out about it though. Trump didn't outright attack the 2A, but he did do the whole bump stock thing (pointless as hell).
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>>476649034
>he's not supporting le trump?? HANG HIM
not breaking the cult allegation anytime soon
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>>476652298
Your nominee is a nigger
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>>476651742
If they were real Christians they wouldn’t be involved in politics.
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>>476651975
It is indeed old news, five hours ago now. Almost time to move on, but not for Kyle, he's toast.
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>>476649034
>elon's zionist jew crew is mad kyle won't vote for zognald
I hope they have a collective meltdown, Kamala 2024
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>>476649034
>"Unfortunately, Donald Trump had bad advisors, making him bad on the Second Amendment, and that is my issue," Rittenhouse added.
>"If you cannot be completely uncompromisable on the Second Amendment, I will not vote for you, and I will write somebody else in. We need champions for the Second Amendment or our rights would be eaten away and eroded each day. I support my decision and I have no takebacks."
Biden and Kamala openly call to ban assault weapons. RFK Jr, just after saying he's not taking anyone's guns away, said he would sign an assault weapons ban if Congress passed it. Trump is literally the only serious candidate who doesn't want to bring back the assault weapons ban, and Kyle refuses to vote for him because he isn't good enough on the Second Amendment.

By the way, before the usual faggots whine about bump stocks, guess who struck down the bump stock ban? The SCOTUS justices that Trump appointed.

I'm glad Kyle is free, but he's young and stupid.
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>>476650168
republicucks are as blind as libtards when you stray from though and the plantation.
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>>476649034
>Rittenhouse is bad because he isn't riding Trump's cock 24/7
lmao
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This thread and the rest of this board reads like r politics.
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>>476652651
So you are voting for a jew to own the jews.
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>>476652782
Shut th fuck up glownigger lmfao
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>>476649633
my wife thinks this is funny
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>>476652782
>Trump is literally the only serious candidate who doesn't want to bring back the assault weapons ban
>signs an executive order on bump stocks
>but his justices struck it down!!!
Okay, man. I'm sure this means that Trump, a 90's democrat (who were notoriously anti-gun) is pro 2a.
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>>476653188
I'm glad my logical argument pissed you off.
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Kyle is based by not voting for Zion Clotshot Gungrabbing Don. The Jews want you to play along to their false dichotomy.
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Trump didn't do shit for him, he doesn't owe him anything.
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>>476649412
Even Chads are turning him down!
It’s over!
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>>476649902
Said he won't be voting for Trump because Trump is talking about limiting gun rights, also said he doesn't want to go to die fighting Iran, and it looks like Trump may support Israel in a war against them. He also criticized Trump for being so close with Larry Fink.
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>>476653324
>Okay, man. I'm sure this means that Trump, a 90's democrat (who were notoriously anti-gun) is pro 2a.
I pointed out facts about Trump and his opponents, and all you have is
>sure man, whatever
I notice my post only bothers people who have zero actual counterpoint. I guess if you're stupid and idealistic like dumb faggots in their 20s, you won't like my point.
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>>476653590
sounds reasonable
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>>476653590
Those are valid criticisms
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>>476653104

You just now noticed this? How old are you, son?
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>>476650169
hypocrisies
philosophies
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>>476653606
>this other guy badder
>so this guy who also doesn't care is gooder
I hate this retarded lesser of two evils shit you copium huffing fucks peddle for cheeto man.

Trump is shit on the second amendment, period. The kid is entitled to his objectively correct opinions.
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>>476653828
No, I'm just stating it. Is your reading comprehension bad?
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>>476651139
Uh excuse me!? They are Freedom Cities™.
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the guy can endorse who ever he wants but it does seem like an unwise move to be vocal about not supporting trump when you entire fanbase is trump people.
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>>476653590
all valid criticisms. Kyle did the right thing. There is nothing wrong with third party protest voting. Kyle said he's going to write in Rand Paul lol. Good for him.
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Killer Kyle Kicked Callously
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so many foking' slags m8, I want a wiff.
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>>476651352
yeah its almost like hes a new york liberal roleplaying as a christian conservative. so weird
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>Trump isn't good enough for the 2nd Amendment
>let's allow someone objectively worse to win
inb4 both are Jewish pawns. Redditors and shareblue need a new script.
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>>476652366
how else do you explain m240s dumping into crowds in vegas? bump stocks
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>>476654106
he's sticking to his principles. he doesnt need to endorse any candidate in this clown show. he's wise beyond his years.
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>>476653590
I agree with all that but I also don't think voting changes everything. You get to choose between the blue kike puppet or the red kike puppet and if that wasn't bad enough, they literally just fake the votes if they prefer one candidate over the other.
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>>476649034
>"I like Ron Paul"
WAHHHHH WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! WHY NOT DRUMPF!??!?!?!

yea its definitely not a cult
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Why are migas so unhinged?
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>>476649034
Oh no, some 55 year old hillbilly doesn’t like him because MIGA. What will he do?
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>>476649547
Well they're supposed to conserve the principles of the US or its existing laws, I think. Someone who is conservative is opposed to change. They would make big changes to go back in time, to conserve the laws and culture that existed back then as well.
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>>476654303
>vote for jew puppet A instead of Jew puppet B or the Jews will take your freedumbs away!
Can't believe people still fall for this shit
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>>476653915
>Trump is shit on the second amendment, period.
Trump appointed three pro-2A justices to the Supreme Court. That alone makes him strong on 2A. All you have is whining about the bump stocks which his justices overturned. You're just an anti-Trump shill.
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Trump was anti gun in his first term imagine how he's going to be now that he's been shot
Just another case of miga cucks getting nothing in return from their dear leader
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Kyle is a chad who actually did something unlike these ecelebs who just sit around bitching all day,
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>>476649034
TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED SO I CAN BE ANGRY TOO!!!!
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>>476653915
>Trump is shit on the second amendment
How shit is Kamala?
Also, besides banning bump stocks, what did Trump do that was anti 2A?
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>>476654303
Kamala has spent 30 million on advertising in the last ten days. Some of that money is why faggots like that one are here.
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He was in Kenosha to protect some shitskins car dealership. FOR FREE! He is a racemixer through and through, can't believe any White supremacists supported him kwab
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>>476653590
He obviously posts here. Nobody on Twitter or Facebook is talking about that shit.
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>>476652782
Lolberts are going to lol. They can always vote for their own candidates as 3rd party or have a real GOP primary with a solid 2a defence candidate and then vote in the primary. None of these 'trump is le bad on 2a' shills did anything except kvetch so they can checkmark their local lolbert.
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>>476653188
>meme flag
>>476653324
>talking points
Weird stuff going on here.
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>>476649034
>Trump uses guy for support
>guy exercise right and decides to vote for superior candidate

Faggots flip out and gaslight voter about how much they helped him, instead of the other way around.

Get fucked, frauds.
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>>476651139
Take meds, you sound like a conspiracy theorist. The news didn't say it was fake.
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>>476653590
Sounds completely reasonable. Trump is a zionist kike dick sucker, and the only reason I'd ever support him is because he's slightly less of a zionist kike dick sucker than whoever the democrats are going to run.
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>>476649034

All Kyle had to do was "I'm still not sure if I'll vote for Trump or a Libertarian candidate. If Trump fixed his 2A issues I'd be a lot more likely to go Trump though."

Simple! Feel he either made a bad mistake or his moneylender told him to play ball or kick rocks. Should have kicked rocks and said "I was told to choose a political candidate or lose my job. If anyone had a spot for me in their company let me know!" He'd have 0 issue being picked up by a FudArms or some 2a schizo business.
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>>476654900
>None of these 'trump is le bad on 2a' shills did anything except kvetch so they can checkmark their local lolbert.
And you'll notice their entire argument is
>le bumpstoxx
which got overturned by his appointed justices, and
>um he made some laws that are like red flag or something
which is an utter lite and they won't cite the laws in question because they know they're lying.
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>>476650168
Ron Paul is the OG, 4chan supported him since 2008
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>>476650375
>pass
For certain definitions of "a waiver is required to permit entry into the selective services," of course.
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>>476649034
>NOOOoooOOoooOoooOOoOo YOU CAN'T JUST DENOUNCE OUR CULT OF PERSONALITY

r/theDonald was a mistake
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>>476654303
"inb4"ing an actual fact doesn't make your post true, newfag.
>>476654714
And yet he killed more pedophile kikes and did more for the White race than you ever will.
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https://x.com/ThisIsKyleR/status/1819459882510069816
lol
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>>476655281
Donald Trump and the cuck supreme court have done nothing in that regard. The deepstate had a "talking to" with rittenhouse
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>>476654551
If voting really doesn't matter, then why try so hard to promote voter apathy? It's not like you're going to participate in a revolution or race war either. You're going to sit there forever with a Jewish boot on your face.
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>>476655281
Kneel
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>>476655281
lol, glad the kid realized his error.
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>>476653590
So Trump voters are a cult after all?
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Shills like to ignore that Trump is the only recent President who actually expanded on gun rights.

His Supreme Court picks have made Conceal Carry and Constitutional Right.

No other President comes close to Trump in expanding the 2nd Amendment.

this makes Shills and Groomers SEETHE
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>>476655281
I'm glad he changed his mind. I know people are gonna troll him and say he folded, but he's just a kid sticking to his lolbert ideology.
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>>476655262
He isn't a White supremacist. End of discussion faggot.
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>>476655671
that's just not true. Under his presidency a handful of states have started openly defying the constitution in that regard and neither Trump or the Supreme Court has the balls to do anything
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>>476655281
>cucked out for those sweet shekels
Sad
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>>476654591
>trump appoints three people with (R) in their name to the supreme court
>he thus gets credit for anything they decide
Not how it works, retard. I'm also 100% certain you don't know what the fuck they're doing, because they're not batting for the 2a, they refuse to hear anything but the same handful of cases that have been smacked down for a decade at this point when some shitstain of a state reintroduces their ban under a different name.

Of course I'm anti-Trump on this topic you dipshit, I'm a gun owner and he's not pro second amendment no matter how much lipservice he pays to you troglodytes.
>>476654680
>How shit is Kamala?
The same, honestly, but it's to be expected.
>what did Trump do that was anti 2A?
He's in favor of "reasonable restrictions" and during his presidency supported expanding gun laws after a school shooting, even if most of them failed to pass the senate.
>>476654994
>talking points
I have an opinion, just like you have an extra chromosome or two.
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Kyle is under the influence of rabid anti-Trumper Dudley Brown.

https://x.com/dudleywbrown/status/1819238728230989832

btw the Supreme Court reversed the bump stock ban so Rittenhouse is just stupid at this point.
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>>476655281
KWAB. Whipped into submission in less than a day
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>>476655896
>that's not true
>individual states are being massive cunts
What.
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>>476653590
It would be hard to argue that he doesn't make some good points.
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>>476655262
OK so don't vote. What are you doing that actually matters then?
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>>476656069
>I have an opinion, just like you have an extra chromosome or two.
Classic tactic to silence an inconvenient person.
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>>476655896
>neither Trump or the Supreme Court has the balls to do anything
are you a groomer or a shill?

how the fuck would you expect Trump who is out of office to do anything?

California already tried restricting CCW but their bullshit law got SHOT DOWN (pun intended) by the Federal court system

so the Supreme Court is in fact doing something, and that is standing by their decision

thousands of people in CA now have conceal carry when it was impossible before the decision

btw enjoy paying you Student Loans faggot
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>>476656069
>>trump appoints three people with (R) in their name to the supreme court
>>he thus gets credit for anything they decide
>Not how it works, retard.
No, that's exactly how it works, retard. Not reading past it you're going to start with such gaslighting.
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>>476655281
Over the past 12 hours, I've had a series of threats made by members of trump's team and I am afraid of the massive blowback I've received from literally everyone I thought was my friend.

My comments last night were honest and candid. I'm 100% folding right away because when I'm not holding a gun, I'm actually quite weak willed and callow. Please let me back in.
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>>476655281
they told him Jared and Ivanka Kushner were not on the team this time around.
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>>476655465
>Donald Trump and the cuck supreme court have done nothing in that regard. The deepstate had a "talking to" with rittenhouse

Bump stocks
>legal

>FRTs
>Legal

>Chevron
Overturned

>Auer Deference
Overturned soon.


Faggot, are you retarded?
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>>476649034
Lmao, conservatives are buck broken about some FIB who had grifteen minutes of fame.
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>>476649412
At least kyle knows who the worthless cucks are now
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>>476655465
This
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>>476656198
Trumps retarded ass supreme court pics went after abortion, ensuring a total republican loss for the foreseeable future to come in all state and federal elections.

Regarding 2A issues that same supreme court has done absolutely nothing and refuses to rule on the constitutional legality of state laws, many of which are blatant loopholes of consumer protection laws and health emergency justifiication
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>>476655281
>https://x.com/ThisIsKyleR/status/1819459882510069816
>lol
Nick must be furious that Kyle gets called by the Trump team within 12 hours of his post. Meanwhile, catboy faggot must be tearfully looking at his phone waiting for Trump to call him.
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>>476656470
>worthless cucks
like Ron Paul who literally got as much done in Congress as Bernie Sanders?
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>>476649633
>Attaching any value whatsoever to a woman's opinion
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>>476653590
Respectable reasons to not vote for Trump
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>>476649034
I thought rightoids were against cancel culture.
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By the way, for the faggots claiming SCOTUS doesn't do anything about guns?

New York State Rifle & Pistol Association Inc. v. Bruen. You're welcome, but you don't really care about gun fights. You just hate Trump.
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>>476655281
Too bad. Peer pressured by all his “friends”.
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>>476649034

Rittenhouse is going to write in “Ron Paul” for the presidential election.

Even Ron Paul wouldn’t write “Ron Paul” on the next ballot as it wouldn’t do anything.
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>>476651352
Well the ATF still exists and I still can't get grenades or full auto or a suppressor, so from where I'm sitting Trump didn't do jack diddly shit to improve gun rights.
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>>476656306
You are a retarded, schizophrenic faggot.
This is my twist on a classic.
>>476656383
No, it fucking doesn't you stupid sped. He has nothing to do with whatever conclusions they come to, no matter who was president at the time they were going to put a person affiliated with their party in.
It's so unbelievably sad you need to credit him for shit he didn't do just to try and clean away his terrible track record on this subject.
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>>476650609
Duh fuck the future of whites I have to have muh gun. Normally I defend gun right people all the time, but fuck em, I rather get rid of every gun if it ment we get rid of all the Jews and niggers.
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>>476656579
>Regarding 2A issues that same supreme court has done absolutely nothing
New York State Rifle & Pistol Association Inc. v. Bruen was one of the biggest gun rights decisions of all time. You don't care about guns. You just hate Trump.
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>>476655281
Jews sent him a check. Good for Kyle. He should get something out of his endorsement.
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>>476656579
so you like Roe v Wade

how do you feel about Affirmative Action?

what about the Chevron Deference?

Not only is Conceal Carry now being allowed in California, but the faggots who run this state were forced to ease up the Handgun Roster and new guns are actually being added now like the Sig P320, P365, CZ Shadow, etc.

if you fucking faggots got what you wanted and Trump lost 2016 then Merrick Garland would be on the Supreme Court

MERRICK FUCKING GARLAND

just admit you're all fucking faggots and make this easier
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>>476652782
Bibi really needs to get that checked
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>oh no, some twitter tard named cat turd blocked him
>this is the end on rittenhouse
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>catturd
Why are conservatives so weird, creepy and cringey?
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>>476649034
Why support politicians if they dont represent you and dont want to?
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>>476655465
>Donald Trump and the cuck supreme court
so you like Merrick Garland

you wanted Hillary to put Merrick Garland on the court instead of Gorsuch?

just admit you suck dick, swallow cum, and take endless cock up your ass, and you cut off your dick and turned it into a fucking vagina

just admit it
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>>476656904
>schizophrenic
Another common tactic. You aren't disproving me here.
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>>476656910
>>476656964
>Oh my reddit, california roster gets three new guns!
Chad liberal states don't give a fuck about Bruen and wipe their ass with the 2A part of the constitution and the cuck court and whoever is president won't do shit
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>>476653590
And I agree with Kyle 100%. Of course my boomer parents have a shit fit every time I tell them I'm not voting for Trump for these exact reasons. That's okay though, because now I make them beg me and jump through hoops to see my kids.
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>>476656904
>No, it fucking doesn't you stupid sped.
>t.
Yes, it does. You also don't know shit about SCOTUS gun rights landmark cases. New York State Rifle & Pistol Association Inc. v. Bruen, shill.
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>>476649217
No, we don't. We formulate our own opinions. That's why when Trump told his own voter base to get the vaccine, many of them said NO, while leftist lemmings happily followed their own "thought leaders" off a cliff.

This concept is something that woke leftist minds cannot seem to fathom, because woketards always play follow the leader. Therefore, if a right winger takes a position, the leftist immediately searches for a right-wing "thought leader" to bash.

Ideology over people.
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>>476649034
Triggered conservative SJW.
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>>476656904
Trump appoints judges that are more pro-2A than Kamala would.
Therefore, is in my best interest that Trump wins over Kamala.
Let's hear your calmly-stated logical argument as to why I'm wrong.
Hard mode: No screeching insults and schizobabble.
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>>476652366
>wasted vote
When both candidates result in fatal damage, there is no wasted vote in trying to rally people against the system. It's really the best vote spent.
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>>476657431
All the most hardcore gun restrictions came AFTER Bruen and the courts won't do shit kek
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>>476655281
>He cucked

I don't understand how people are brave when it comes to actually being in a gunfight or a battle but then suddenly they turn into simpering cucks against gossiping social media fags.
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>>476653104
Been this way since 2016
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>>476654377
Yeah but rightoid Trumpers are slurping his dick so loud they can't here him literally say he stands against things they care about. At least the dems lie and make their retards believe them. Fucking goyem all of them.
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>>476657601
>All the most hardcore gun restrictions came AFTER Bruen
List them.
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>>476657554
Those are not mutually exclusive.
You're presenting a false dilemma.
Your post is a fallacy.
(I'm being generous in assuming you're stupid and not just an ActBlue shill.)
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>>476657736
illiinois, WA, massachusetts, hawaii, california still cucked despite their laws being decades old
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>>476656615
It's not really Ron Paul's fault that the modern US is populated by retarded normgroids who don't belong here
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>>476649034
trumptards are pathetic cringelord npcs, more news at 11
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>>476657436
You won't get anything but rage and gaslighting. I love that they're now to the point of claiming that SCOTUS doesn't do anything for 2A. The last 15 years has been almost nothing but wins for gun rights.
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>>476657258
>Chad liberal states don't give a fuck about Bruen and wipe their ass with the 2A part of the constitution and the cuck court and whoever is president won't do shit
except the bullshit kiked up anti-gun laws they're passing are getting shot down left and right in Federal Court while our Gun Rights are expanding

like i said we went from having Conceal Carry being impossible to literally any gun owner can get it now

off roster guns that were selling for $1000-$2000 are now available for a normal price, and it's been way more than 3

they were basically forced to remove the micro-stamp requirement so now new guns are constantly being added

none of this was conceivable before the Supreme Court started taking gun cases

and now this poo running for President is promising to ban "assault rifles" lmao

it's so hoever
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>>476657436
Let's say your plane is going down. And you have two choices that most people settle on are the only two choices. One of them is to fix the ice machine. And the other one is to fix a couple screws in one of the broken wings. Sure, one is more helpful than the other, but you're still going to explode on impact with 100% certainty.

So there is the option to begin a potential movement. Sure, it likey won't fix anything. But at least there's a chance. There's no chance with either of these candidates, so there's no actual point in voting for them. All that does is solidify the doom and enhance the cycle that's enabling it.
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>>476649034
Rittenchad still winning
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>>476657872
I didn't ask for stats with bad gun laws. You said the most hardcore gun restrictions came in the two years since Bruen. I said list them, as in the "hardcore gun restrictions" you're talking about. You won't, because you don't know what you're taking about.
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>>476657811
>You're presenting a false dilemma.
No, you are. You're a suggesting option one or option two. Both of which result in fatal damage. And telling me I must pick one of them because one is more helpful than the other. When both result in a fatality, one being more helpful than the other is irrelevant. This isn't very hard to understand.
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>>476653590
Those would be stronger points if Trump's opposition was not far more of a rabid anti-gunner than Trump. In abstaining from voting for Trump, you get somebody far worse on the gun issue. So, congratulations on electing a radical leftist over what amounts of a centrist on the issue?

Let us not forget that the left has openly embraced the ideology of the globalist enemy. They aggressively push for the sexual destruction of kids through transgender grooming before said kids have a chance to reach an age of mental maturity that may allow them to break free of the programming.

Also, Trump as a far better stance when it comes to the most important issue of all - which is slowing the demographic replacement of our people with third world savages.

If Kamala gets in, then the negro tide will only intensify.

The only issue where he arguably has a point is Iran - but I am of the mind that Kamala will absolutely push for war there too, because her handlers want war with Iran. 90% of our Senate are Israeli duel citizens.
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>>476658100
moving goalposts. Restrictive AW bans.
>>476658024
>shot down left and right in federal court
except this isn't happening. New ones are being added constantly and the SCOTUS doesn't do shit. Better try and ban abortion though, kek.
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>>476655281
kek. But honestly Trump is the only choice you have if you care about the 2A. He'll appoint judges that care about it. The others won't.
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>>476658035
>Let's say
The fact that you have to create fantasy comparisons in order to justify your persistent TDS really speaks volumes.
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>>476658035
False dilemmas and a non sequitur. Try again, ActBlue shill.
Explain why you think it's in my best interest that Kamala, who is more hostile to the 2A and will appoint judges accordingly, wins over Trump.
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>>476649034
who the fuck is this cat turd faggot
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>>476658330
>I'm too low IQ to understand metaphors that illustrate the absolute logic of the situation
Ok
Well maybe somebody else can read the post and help you out with it.
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Trump betrayed his supporters during January 6. Drumpft worshippers need to rope
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>>476658394
>I have no substantive response so I'm just going to insult you and claim you are this or that instead of addressing the argument
Ok
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If you know who these people are you need to turn off the PC
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>>476658024
>except the bullshit kiked up anti-gun laws they're passing are getting shot down left and right in Federal Court while our Gun Rights are expanding

What part of "the states are ignoring the higher courts" don't you understand? I don't support any of these anti-gun laws, but I do support states rights so I actually kind of admire these blue states for telling the feds to fuck off, even if they are doing it for a shitty reason.
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>>476658458
Explain why you think Kamala should win.
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>>476658269
>moving goalposts.
No, you moved goalposts when I told you to list the "hardcore gun restrictions" that you claim have happened since Bruen, and you listed states with zero laws cited. You're a lying pathetic shill that doesn't value gun rights whatsoever and you've made that blatantly obvious.
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>>476658411
>YOU'RE DUMB IF YOU DON'T VALIDATE MY BAD COMPARISON
K, shill.
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The strong men right now are the ones willing to go through the accelerationism process since it's the only actual substantive hope.

The weak men are the ones that insist we all continue to contribute to the same system destroying us in this left or right dilemma, so they might be a little bit more comfortable as we die off, destroying our people and country's future. But good times create weak men. That's what we have today with you guys.
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>>476658586
what part of total AWB determined by a list of features don't you understand? Is that not a hardcore restriction? Keep sucking Trumps cock retard
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>>476649034
>Catturd
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>>476649034
can some social media whore explain to me whats going on? what did rittenhouse say?
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>>476657255
What am I meant to disprove, schizoman?
>>476657314
t. no guns faggot.
No, I know about that fucking case.
I'll let you in on a secret, that same shit has been done several times before.

But wait, this ones a LANDMARK because it happened in NEW YORK instead of CHICAGO and it's the first thing you could pull up on google.
>>476657436
>Trump appoints judges that are more pro-2A than Kamala would.
No shit. That's the entire point dumbass, whatever sitting president at the time will fill a court with people affiliated with their party, them getting brownie points for rubber stamping the name brought in front of them is hilarious.
I also already outlined it with
>I hate this retarded lesser of two evils shit you copium huffing fucks peddle for cheeto man.
My own little challenge for you - impossible mode: Stop being stupid.
>>476657943
>I love that they're now to the point of claiming that SCOTUS doesn't do anything for 2A
Never claimed that, you illiterate pavement ape, I claimed they keep striking down the same laws (after they've been in effect for months to years) that they've struck down several times before with different names.
They refuse to hear other cases that could challenge federal authority in the cases of unlawful violations such as taxes to own firearms (Illinois) or how entities like the ATF can arbitrarily write up and enforce laws bypassing congress and turning millions of Americans into felons overnight.

Cheetoman is not pro 2a, and even if the opposition is worse by comparison that doesn't make him good no matter how much copium you huff.
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>>476658743
"Accelerationism" is a cope for losers.
You don't win by losing.
You win by winning.
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>>476649902
Kyle says he is going to write in Ron Paul.
This is just another slidethread that the bluehairs have made to stoke division.
Then they shitpile it on with arguments about semantics with female logic.
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>>476656663
is that a famas?
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>>476659178
>Electing MIGA is winning
I see you Shlomo
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>>476659250
Very creative response, ShareBlue shill.
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>>476652782
>die slowly or die quickly goyim?
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The Callow Kyle Kerfuffle Continues!
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>>476659386
neither, actblue shill
we're gonna destroy you, and there's nothing you can do about it
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>>476656093
>Trump is pro 2A because the supreme court saved it
lol no
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>>476654591
Im not voting trump for many reasons. Just 2 are his gun stances and him trying to groom his base into being ok with being replaced LEGALLY. All he talks about is black empowerment
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>>476656093
You mean the bump stock ban that was signed and supported by Trump himself?
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>>476649902
>Tweeted that he won't vote Trump this November because he's noguns for some reason?
>Right reeeeeeeees
>"Opps sorry my bad I guess I'm voting Trump, guys" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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/thread
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>>476658915
>Never claimed that, you illiterate pavement ape
I didn't say you did. I'm arguing with a half dozen idiots like you. Not even is about you, shill.
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>>476659178
Republicans losing or winning doesn't matter
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>>476658307
The only choice you have is to just break the jewish laws and get whatever "illegal" weapons you can anyway. Voting for someone to make it legal for you to own grenades and machine guns when it already is legal isn't much of a choice.
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>>476649034
Catturd is a jew.
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>>476658035
>Let's say
don't care about your made-up fantasies
>So there is the option to begin a potential movement.
which is not mutually exclusive with voting for the better candidate
>there's no actual point in voting for them.
yes there is: one's better than the other
>All that does is solidify the doom and enhance the cycle that's enabling it.
asspull non sequitur
you actblue shillrats are gonna have to upgrade your talking points
we're not staying home in november, no matter how much you flail desperately to convince people to let kamala win
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>>476658760
>what part of total AWB determined by a list of features don't you understand?
What the fuck are you babbling about? Trump is the only major candidate against an AWB, as I said in my first post. You are melting down.
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>>476649034
BUT LE ORANGE MAN GOT SHOT

THAT MEANS AUTOMATIC ACCEPTANCE OF ALL OF HIS IDIOTIC POLICIES AND OPINIONS

REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>476659861
Bump stocks aren't guns though. They're shitty pieces of plastic that allow you fire wildly out of control. They are not safe. They were never popular. Even after the so-called "ban" was lifted, nobody wants a fucking bump stock.
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>>476658559
The only way there is going to be positive change is if people meaningfully rebel by breaking the jewish laws on a mass scale. That's not going to happen with Trump. People are going to keep living on the income tax plantation under trump because they think he's going to fix anything.
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By the way, Kyle already changed his mind and is supporting Trump. Now watch as all the anti-Trump faggots who lauded Kyle turn on him and fall back to 2022 anti-Kyle talking points.
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>>476659945
>I didn't say you did. I'm arguing with a half dozen idiots like you. Not even is about you, shill.
Except the post you replied to was directly aimed at me you illiterate sped.
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>>476660105
>I have no answer to your illustration because it would expose me
I know, I see that
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>>476650169
You can literally hear the brainworms typing your posts.
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>>476659992
republicans are more 2A-friendly than democrats, and appoint judges accordingly
so yes, it does matter, actblue shill
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>>476660329
So bizarre you think everybody is either for Trump or against them here there's no other state of mind to you. It's like the christcucks that think you must be jewish if you don't worship a jewish supremacist god. I assume that's you tho.
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>>476660335
>Except the post you replied to was directly aimed at me you illiterate sped.
Wow, you're one self-obsessed little shill. Makes sense they would get people like you for that work, as you're already committed to never admitting when you're wrong.
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>>476660344
we see you, actblue shillrat
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>>476660169
the stock is a part of a gun, yes. I wouldn't want someone telling me I can only use 1 round magazines either despite not being a "gun"
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>>476660384
>shills for a faggot party
>calls everyone else shills
kek
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>>476660169
The 2A doesn't just cover guns themselves, retard. It covers everything related to guns. The rest of your post is completely irrelevant as well since the popularity (or lack thereof) of a constitutionally protected item doesn't justify banning that item.

I'm starting to think the left is right when they say you trumpers really are in a cult.
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>>476660501
>So bizarre you think everybody is either for Trump or against them here there's no other state of mind to you.
Because either you do want Trump to be POTUS or you don't. There are two choices. Simple reality.
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>>476660623
Magazines, internal or otherwise, are necessary for guns to function. Stocks aren't. Try again.
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>>476660020
not voting, and letting kamala win, isn't breaking any law, let alone in any way that helps me
>get whatever "illegal" weapons you can anyway.
not mutually exclusive with voting for the better candidate
update your talking points, actblue, because this isn't gonna cut it
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>>476653590
Damn wtf I didn't realize Kyle was so fucking based. I mean, he was based for what he did, but that was just self preservation and self defence. But he has based opinions too? Nice.
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>>476660535
>as you're already committed to never admitting when you're wrong.
Pot calling the kettle black.
I accept your concession, as a noguns I know you're not educated on the topic of firearms and the ever increasing encroachment on them.

I'll let you in on another little secret, I do it for free.
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>>476660803
And here it is: the supposed "pro-2A" shills have already turned on Kyle. That literally took minutes.
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>>476655465
Or Trump's campaign just paid him a hefty sum.
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>>476660251
>>476660866
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>>476660636
giving up already, actblue shillrat?
good
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Libertarians have principles-
>guns and explosives
>weed and speed
>NO taxes, fuck your highway robbery
>AUDIT THE FED

Cuckservatives have principles-
>"Our friends in Israel"
>bomb Iran
>just lower taxes, especially for richfags
>no weed, no speed, gun limitations, no explosives because "it's a national security threat"
>"i'm appointing Powell as Chairman of the Federal Reserve" instead of auditing it and shutting it down

We call you cuckservatives for a good reason. Thomas Massie and Ron Paul cuck to no one.
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>>476658743
It depends what kind of acceleration you are talking about. If your accelerationism involves flooding the country with third world savages, as Kamala will do, then it is NOT the best path, because even if the system collapses under the weight of her bad policy, then you will still be left with a country that is filled with niggers.

If the system is doomed, then men who are truly strong of mind, body, and character, will seek the path that leads to the most favorable kind of collapse - one where the demographics are most in our favor.

Only men who are weak of character will seek instant gratification, because they do not want to suffer through our corrupt and wicked system for years to come for a more favorable outcome.
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>>476660906
>calls others noguns
>refuses to acknowledge Bruen
>wants to pretend POTUS had nothing to do with SCOTUS decisions
wew
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>>476659909
lmaooooooooooooo
Kyle should have tried to fucking talk to Trump before trying to be some ebin lolbert, stupid white trash kid.
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>>476653590
Of course catfaggot doesn't understand Kyle's points.
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>>476661136
You are getting infinity niggers and jeets either way, stop deluding yourself into thinking you have a choice.
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>>476661226
Yes, yes.
I'm sure the judges were calling up Trump and asking his non lawyer opinion on precedents set by the previous judges a decade prior to bruen.
Slob on that knob, tardboy.
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>>476661325
Rubbish. If the system collapses under Trump, then it will collapse with fewer 'migrants' in our country.

If the system collapses under Kamala, then it will be under the weight of a wide open border policy.

I'll take the former over the latter.
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WTF?! Did the Trump Campaign bully him or something?! He folded in less than 12 hours!
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>>476660834
are you retarded? Stocks are by definition necessary for it to function properly. You can even discharge a firearm without a magazine either so your point makes absolutely no sense kek
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>>476660623
I'm not convinced a bump stock is a real stock. Those should be in their own separate category of modifications if anything.
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>>476661626
>Slob on that knob, tardboy.
Anti-Trump shills inevitably start talking about gay sex. It's a law of nature.
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Kyle is a good man.
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>>476661703
No, they paid him. He's likely still not voting for Trump, but he'll publicly say he is as long as they deposit a fat check in his bank account.
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>>476659250
>>476659992
More blackpilled faggots taking that big black cock in the ass.
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>>476661897
Says the leaf whose country has just become Cold India.
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>>476662036
Imagine having that saved.
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>>476661897
>I'm just your average Canadian who is incredibly invested in the GOP!
lmao who do you think you are fooling?
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All this over someone not voting for Zion Don? What a bunch of emotionally invested faggots.
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>>476661703
He saw the extreme backlash from basically every rightwing talking head and realized his "career" is over.
Since he's a dumb motherfucker and didn't sue all those networks for lying their asses off about him he's not exactly rich.

Principles come after a place to lay your head when you have no talents.
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>>476655281
based
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>>476653590
Based if true.
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>>476649034
>e celeb bs
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>>476661629
>rubbish
lol ok retard
I'm sure Donald 'staple green cards to diplomas' Trump is gonna close the border for real this time
Trust the plan!
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>>476662102
It's almost guaranteed to be a pajeet, most of the Trump shills are for obvious reasons
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>>476657554
Trump winning is not equivalent to Harris winning, even if Trump was controlled opposition of some sort it would still be nowhere near the same outcome. And the Harris outcome is magnitudes of order worse with absolutely no potential upside
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>>476653590
>based AF

Of course cuckservatives are going to reee
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>>476649034
>lowest point
>protecting your land
do glowies, really?
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>>476651235
Expose the jew?
>>476652782
>Trump's not perfect, so I will throw away my vote, potentially letting someone who is worse win
Lmao. He's a based retard.
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>>476655281
What a coward. Bullied into submission by people who were too cowardly to shoot Jewish pedophiles themselves
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Man, that was fast
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>>476660866
I always love how shills spend so much time convincing you to not vote at all in your interests. The worst case scenario is that I lose 15 minutes out of my day.
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>>476659909
I like Ron Paul too, but it's useless to write him in.

I watched Ron Paul get abused by the same bullshit media Donald Trump gets it from. I watched Ron Paul endure the same type of attacks from Republicans and neocons. The difference is, Donald Trump fights. I wish Trump would fight more, what he did at the "black media" conference or whatever reminded me of what's to love about Donald Trump. Also who else would have the sheer audacity to stand up during an active shooter situation and yell "FIGHT"?

Ron Paul is an honest man, a good man, uncorruptable, and probably too good for this system.

We need a fighter. Trump may finally realize the gravity of our situation and perhaps give America the enema it so desperately needs, cleaning out all the bullshit.
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>>476649034
I respect 100x more a guy that actually showed face and defended himself against ANTIFA scum than a memeTrump account.
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>>476649034
This shit is so astroturfed
When I see these threads over and over and nothing is said except “ x is bad “ it’s always jew or chink propaganda.
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>>476660712
Dumb jew lol
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>>476662582
This is the same pathetic rationalization behind voting for every cuck the GOP puts out. This is what people told themselves when they voted for W. This is what people still tell themselves as they vote for Lindsay Graham. This is the same thing you will tell yourself when the Republicans do amnesty and reparations, and in a few more cycles when you vote for an open faggot or a pajeet for president. You will tell yourself this is the least bad choice forever, no matter how bad it gets.
This is copeservatism.
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>>476655281
Ron Paul sisters?????


our response?!
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Basically, a figure on the right stepped out of the GOP democrat dynamic that has worked so well for Jews for so long. So there was massive astroturfed backlash. Anyone against him is just a golem. Them and what they do only hurts the country and whites.
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>>476662297
>He saw the extreme backlash from basically every rightwing talking head and realized his "career" is over.

Well he talked to the Trump team so that's definitely not it, since he was already bleeding followers after his announcement, and after he doubled down. If you're going to say that it's about money then it's more likely the Trump team either abated his fears, or they paid him.
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>>476662402
Immigration steadly went down during Trump's first term.
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>>476649633
>5 million runner ups
That's just a fraction of all the shitjeets posting here, therefore inaccurate
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>>476656470
>The worthwhile people want to piss away their vote and let kamala harris win
>Something something bump stocks, therefore let's elect someone who wants to ban all private firearm ownership
If you believe that voting isn't a waste of time (it probably is) his position is indefensible and utterly retarded.
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>>476663341
I don't think anyone here will tell you to vote for every cuck with an R by their name. There's plenty I wouldn't vote for either. But assuming you have right-wing views, Trump has more upsides than downsides so I will take him over the others. It's that simple.
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>>476649034
>be spic
>90 IQ
>Hold fence sitter position
>Get manipulated because you're a retard
Lol
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Kyle is someone who actually took action and made a difference. He's a man of action, unlike the weak men on here. They would rather the country die a horrible death while they have the best degree of comfort out of the two choices Jews give them. Both ending in total obliteration of the country and the white race. They're okay with that. They aren't real men like Kyle who is willing to go through discomfort to hopefully start a movement that can do something.
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>>476653590
Unfathomably based, no wonder miga nigger cultists are coping and seething and shidding and farding and dilating
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>>476649034 Oh, no! CAT TURD blocked him...
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>>476663654
Sends a message to the GOP: You ever want to win? Stop chipping away at the 2nd.

4 years of Harris, yeah. Then it's over. And whatever losses were made in gun rights, can be returned instantly with a new president, if they wanted too. If repubs after 4 years continue to chip away, well, then they will lose again.

I don't think you understand that Chipping away slowly, and chipping away faster, end with the same result.
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>>476663543
>Immigration steadly went down during Trump's first term.
No, it didn't. You don't believe it did either, you are just lying.
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>>476650168
>I’m neither a Paul or trump fan btw
Thanks for clarification redditfaggot. Normal people don't need to couch a genuine question in garbage prefaces.
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>>476663341
You win by winning wherever you can.
The reason the other side has won so much ground is that they are content with baby steps so long as it's in a direction they approve of.
It's death by a thousand papercuts.
Don't throw away a partial win just because you didn't get everything you wanted.

Kamala or Trump.
Which one is the better outcome?
Which one is more receptive to our ideals?
You already know the answer.
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>>476649633
Idol repellent.
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>>476653590
>rittenhouse fell for the shillop on /pol/
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>>476649034
>get kyles new book today
Imagine buying this fat lesbian looking bitches book because he shot some retards. I mean everything was captured on film and documented extensively. Fuck grifters like him I hope he's next.
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>>476649034
>>476649034
>>476649034
Daily reminder that all pro-Israeli threads are made by bunkerchan trannies in cooperation with Valent Projects and iDrama fags, a group of pseudo-academic leftist losers who advertise themselves as "researchers" although they're actually paid shills that hold janny positions, raid /pol/ and spam BBC, trannies, pro-vaxx, feminist threads and retarded globohomo generals like /cvg/ and /uhg/.
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>I'm not voting for Trump, here's why
>12 hours later
>Actually I'm voting for him now, 100% all the way
??? I'm doubtful that the Trump team was able to give him THAT good of an argument so I gotta wonder, how much money did they offer Rittenhouse for the endorsement?
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>>476664125
I'm not a Republican, I'm not part of the Trump campaign or the GOP, them winning isn't me winning or White people winning in any way. Why would you identify with that shitty jewish party to the point where you see them winning an election as inherently good?
>our ideals
Zionism and fag marriage? Unlimited streetshitter immigration? Which one of my ideals does the GOP represent?
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>>476664125
>You win by winning wherever you can.

How can you believe this? How have republicans "won" in the last 50 years? Look at modern society and PLEASE tell me how conservatives have made any ground.
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>>476656905
Without jews and niggers we wouldn't even need guns.
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>>476653590
Based and correct on all counts.
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>>476664062
>Sends a message to the GOP
No, it sends the opposite message.
It makes them think they need to move left.

Protest voting only works in a proportional system (*not* FPTP) when there is a viable, non-meme alternative to the *right* of the GOP that said people all vote fo instead.
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>>476663796
>right-wing views
What policy of Trump's are you referring to? The gay weddings he hosts, letting niggers get away with crime, or is it his promise to give israel back total control of Congress (as though it isn't controlled enough now)? I guess the last one is popular with the israeli right at least.
You can say Trump is rightwing all you want if you just totally ignore what he actually did as president the first time, but some of us were actually paying attention.
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>>476649034
This is an extremely good sign. Zoomers like Rittenhouse are recognizing jewish controlled opposition and voting against them.
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>>476664632
>How can you believe this?
By looking at how much ground the Left has won.
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>>476664087
He heavily cut legal immigration and visas. This is well documented.
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>>476663913
your ability to judge a virtues man is astounding!

>>476662804
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>>476664997
The GOP isn't listening to any voter either way. It is listening to Miriam Adelson and Larry Fink.
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>there are people who actually think voting matters
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>>476665162
Cutting immigration.
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>>476655281
Unhinged zioniggers probably bombarded him and his family with death threats
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>>476664585
>obfuscation
Democrats are worse on every issue.
That's all that matters for my vote.
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>>476653590
Someone explain how this is bad?
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>>476664997
>It makes them think they need to move left.

How?

"Im not voting Trump because he's chipping away at gun rights"

GOP: "Hmm interesting, I better move to the left"

?
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>>476665220
>>476665415
>covid
oh wow look Justin Trudeau is totally based and cut immigration too!
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Kyle turned on his family too
Let his sisters and mom live in squalor in a shitty apartment complex in Fla.
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>>476665519
>can't explain any tangible difference
Infinite cope
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>>476662804
Jews like you astroturfed a tidal wave of pressure and he had nobody to back him up. Nobody with any principles to stand against jewery. Just people like you.
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>>476660803
lmao
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People not voting with their morals and convictions and just doing this 'lesser-evilism' retardation is why our democracy is broken.
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>>476665708
The numbers were going down before covid as you can clearly see in the first chart I posted.
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>>476666198
It's a symptom of weak men. Good times create weak men. They're unwilling to go through some discomfort for the only possibility to save their race and country. They just want some creature comforts on the way down. That's all that matters to them.
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>>476665555
Ballots don't contain justifications.
When it comes to elections, especially in a FPTP system, only the aggregates matter.
This is why haphazardly writing in candidates for teh memez doesn't do anything to move the needle in those directions.
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>>476666202
>the numbers were going down
>still higher average than Obama
lol
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>>476649034
I wish BLM would burn down catturd's house. I fucking hate this grifting prick and his dogshit neocon takes so much.
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>>476665915
>I'm a retard and don't follow Supreme Court decisions at all
I'm done talking to you. Moron.
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>>476666561
>i give up, I have no defense for my cuckoldry
Apology accepted
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>>476650609
>Trump has a bad track record even by Republican standards on the 2nd amendment
People who says this have no idea how gun politics has worked for the past 40 years. Presidents on both sides are almost always old farts who don't actually care about the nuances of gun mechanics and laws. They just do whatever lobbying organizations like the NRA or Brady Campaign tell them their base would support. The NRA told Trump to throw his support behind things like red flag laws and a bump stock ban as a sacrificial lamb to keep the Dems and cuckservatives in congress from banning everything with a veto-proof majority after the Las Vegas shooting. They didn't anticipate the huge backlash and mass exodus from NRA membership as a result of this perceived betrayal. I'm not saying that was the right or wrong thing to do, but that's why Trump did what he did in context. The people who claim that Trump supports gun control more than Obama or that the ATF is only making new regulations out of thin air because of Trump are being disingenuous or willfully ignorant. The ATF abused Chevron Deference to ban tons of things under both Obama and Biden while they only banned one thing under Trump.
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>>476666544
kyle isn't also a faggot cringe grifter?
>BUY MY NEW BOOK
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>>476666666
>six sixes
Holy fucking digits
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>>476666666
dang, digits wasted
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>>476666666
Wasted.
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>>476666666
Cuckoldry is A-OK
WAGMI cuckbros!!!!!
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>>476666666
KEK BTFO
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>>476666897
>>476666911
Seethe harder, cuckservative niggers
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>>476666666
Checked
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>>476666666
Completely wasted on a BBC posting mutt. Sad day.
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>>476666666
shit get
at least this guy's not a leftist (hopefully)
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>>476666666
dumb american poster
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>>476662804
OH NO NO NO NO.
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>>476666666
cuckget
i love cuckgets
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>>476667029
>cuckservative niggers
kek, im the last person u should be calling that
this country is dead, fuck u Christcucks
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>>476666432
It's lower than Obama's second term. Not sure what your point is.
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>>476665260
lol
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>>476666666
NEGA THAT MOLOCHIAN DIGITS
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>>476667261
>doesn't know what an average is
kek typical coonservative
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>>476666666

W A S T E D
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>>476666666
God what a loser you are
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>>476666666
Witnessed
Cuckservacucks eternally BTFO
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get psyoped by clones polniggers



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