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▶Day: 894 - Daily battlefield assessment: https://isw.pub/UkraineConflictUpdatesISW

▶Latest
>The rostov-on-don submarine has been sunk
>Morozovsk airfield Rostov struck with drones, ammunition storage hit
>Prisoner swap deal with russia was to have included Navalny
>Russian court declared that Finland committed genocide on russian territory in WW2 (lol)
>Smoooking accident at oil refinery in Omsk (2000+ km from the border)
>Biggest prisoner swap between russia and the West since the Cold War, numerous foreigners and russian political prisoners released
>Kremlin's spokesperson says russia will not attend any peace talks until moscow's demands are considered
>The Times: in the first delivery Ukraine received 6 F-16s from Netherlands
>Bloomberg: The first delivery of the F-16 fighter jets from NATO allies has arrived in Ukraine
>Smoooking accident at NPO Avtomatiki (a Roscosmos subsidiary) in Yekaterinburg
>Comfy TZD event involving a russian Mi-8 and a Ukrainian drone in Donetsk region
>Ukrainian Military intelligence was involved in an attack at russian assets at Kuweires airbase in Aleppo recently - KyivPost
>Ukrainian Military Intelligence completed one of the largest DDOS attacks on russia's internet infrastructure in history, went on continuously for a week, affected the online services of banks, national payment systems, government resources and dozens of other services
>Ukrainian forces have reported the first appearance of the North Korean long-range anti-tank missile system, Bulsae-4 M-2018 NLOS ATGM, in the Kharkiv region

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Russians be like:
>pee pee poo poo
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TOTAL ZIGGER DEATH
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>>477017367
Would be a shame if kikes nuked Tehran today.
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Total death in the most brutal and painful way to every single moskal, katsap and so called ruzzian!
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FRIENDLY REMINDER:
Rusniggers are literally churka cattle, that can't burn quaran or their own government will send them to Kadyrov's son so he can beat them up, post it online, nobody in their whole country says anything, and then they get thrown illegaly into churka jail so they get beat up by more churkas and raped and also have to attend islam indoctrination lessons.
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F I N A L
R E D
L I N E

F-16s HAVE ARRIVED
PUCCIA
S A D
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>>477017524
based moderate
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TZD
Hope their gay god dies too.
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DAILY REMINDER
FIRST UKRAINIAN F-16 PILOTS
GRADUATED FROM ARIZONA U.S.A. MEIN STATE

THEY ARE
BLESSED
BY THE SON OF THE MORNING

OUR
MORNING
STAR
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>>477017524
do you have any hope for russia, fren? what would need to happen for things to get better or is it all just a dream? looks like majority of russian populace just doesnt want to get involved in politics and are willing to do whatever kremlin says
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T O T A L
Z I G G E R
D E A T H
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>>477017524
VPN or dissident?
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TOTAL ZIGGER DEATH
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>>477017762
Yes, I have a hope. I hope that all kacaps, moskals and ruzzian will die.
>>477017838
Just a real fascist.
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>>477017609
>i big boy
>monke hungry
>gib banan
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>>477017886
>>477017886
>>477017886
SIEG
HEIL
BATTLE BROTHER
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>>477017886
im just wondering that even if ukraine wins and gets 1991 borders, russians might just double down and become even more extreme, willing to just militarize massively and want a rematch with europe
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Feed kacaps but with lead and shrapnel!
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>>477016379
If a zigger isn't lying, projecting, strawmanning, or whatabooting, check it's pulse
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B L O O D
H O N O R
S O I L
ᛟᛉᛋ

https://youtu.be/jNuw42EQsnE?si=H7vJTGpbDxCLA6zz

AZOV --- MADE IN UKRAINE

https://youtu.be/AmYYQH8PaGE?si=gAGv0tCMvvbakBHv

KOST GORDIYENKO: AZOV MOVEMENT

https://youtu.be/u6_cYS_qwcA?si=0AwS7OLhIMQPG45M [600k]

卐 RUSSIA'S WORST NIGHTMARE ᛏ

HAIL AZOV
HAIL KRAKEN
HAIL AFU

W E
W I L L
W I N
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Fresh russian suicide dropped just now
Requesting webm
https://t.me/Tsaplienko/57941
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>>477018022
They won't be able to do it when they will die from starvation.
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>>477018022
that's why we need nooks asap

ALSO

FRESH ZIGGER SUICIDE
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>>477018182
Noice, thx for webm
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Alright fags, what's the current state of things? Considering that our resident ziggers are busy hunting for troons at the Olympic Games, I take it that shit's going decent enough on the warfronts?
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>>477017886
Do you think balkanization of Russia is possible once the people are fed up with all the Kremlin bullshit or do most people just not care that much about politics and the region/culture they live in?
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AS LONG AS OPERATIONS IN UKRAINE CONTINUE

I WILL SUPPORT TRUMP IN HIS 2025 AGENDA

IF IAM DOUBLE CROSSED, VERY BAD THINGS WILL HAPPEN, REMINDER

UKRAINE HAS A RIGHT TO
A SELF DEFENSE SITUATION

AMERICA DOESN'T NEED TO SEND TROOPS, UKRAINE CAN FIGHT THEIR WAR THEY JUST NEED RESTRICTIONS LIFTED
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>>477018022
are you saying that it that there will be another 1921? also the same thing can be said to the western nations if russia win. everyone become radlibs
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>>477018100
That reminds me, some guy on twitter made a compilation of all the suicides of July. Enjoy.
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>>477018310
>>477018310
>>477018310
DEPENDS

IF PUCCIA STARTS RECRUITING FROM MOSCOW

HIS POWER BASE
THE SONS & NEPHEWS OF THE ELITE

& THEY GET MAULED
THEN YES WARLORDISM IS BACK

T I C K
T O C K
STYLE
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>>477017367
>Russian court declared that Finland committed genocide on russian territory in WW2 (lol)
Based
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oh yahweh, uhgsisters
we got dunked on by /chug/
Pekka, why did this happen? Did we suponiggers get too cocky?
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>>477018310
There are no people in fagruzzia, it is populated with cattle just like EU.
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>>477018310
>once the people are fed up with all the Kremlin bullshit
Which is never. Ethnic russians will take everything thrown their way. They are the most cucked serf race on the planet Earth. If there will be a civil war in Russia, it will be started by the churkas.
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>>477018395
>>477018395
>>477018395
DANKE SEHR!
I WAS LOOKING
FOR THESE,NEW PHONE

EVERYONE
POST RARE ZIGGERZZZ
IF AVAILABLE
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>>477018463
>>477018463
>>477018463
FINNGOLIANS
CANNOT
KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT :33
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>>477018491
>Still too scared or forbidden to answer this >>477017592
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Ukrainian soldiers of the 32nd Mech Brigade used FPV drone to force a Russians to leave the shelter and then met them with fire.
https://x.com/GloOouD/status/1820151942837911980

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>>477018563
>>477018563
>>477018563
AUDIBLE
KEK
D E T E C T E D
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>>477018463
>genocide on russian territory in WW2
Didn't happen, but should have.
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Imagine Russians at home celebrating the war, wearing Z-merch and shouting "URAA!!!"

At the same time, their soldiers are dying by the thousands for no reason in a FOREIGN country.

And these Z-supporters demand only more blood, and it doesn't matter whether it's Russians or Ukrainians
https://x.com/GloOouD/status/1820209739835326946

https://litter.catbox.moe/euhwnr.mp4
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>>477018715
>>477018715
>>477018715
WISE
MODERATE
T Z D ENJOYER
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The Ukrainian 4th Mech Battalion, Presidential Brigade destroys Russian invaders in Luhansk region

Powerful and Accurate Work
https://x.com/GloOouD/status/1820371355520356821

https://litter.catbox.moe/zxgvbo.mp4
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>>477018751
>>477018751
>>477018751
1984
WAS NOTHING
COMPARED TO THIS... THE CURRENT YEAR
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>>477018854
>>477018854
>>477018854
SAVED
TY ANON
BRINGING THE KINO AS ALWAYS, YOU'RE A NATIONAL TREASURE
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>>477018022
>russians might just double down and become even more extreme, willing to just militarize massively and want a rematch with europe
Genuinely: how? Russia is not autarkic. Like almost every other country in 2024, it specializes in the export of certain goods so it can import those for which it has no comparative advantage. It is increasingly being frozen out of the global economy, and with increasing efficacy. If it doesn't win in Ukraine and then if it doesn't provide sufficient capitulations to Western demands, Russia could very plausibly devolve even further. While it's hard to imagine, from a certain perspective, the fall of an established, nominally-modern country in 2024, states do fail. History has shown us over and over again that any organization can collapse under the correct conditions. We are going out of our way, accepting some austerity in the process, to create these conditions for Russia. It is economically blockaded on a scale literally unprecedented in modern history. There is no path forward for Russia anymore; no Option B: it must win in Ukraine and create the multipolar meme for which it went to war. It must convince China and India that it can, indeed, win this war and to create an alternative world order.

The problem is that if the West simply continues on, Russia is fucked. It needs victory and it needs it soon. I don't think that victory is anywhere on the immediate horizon. That must be deeply, deeply troubling for Putin, whose political and likely actual life is wagered here.

I think Russia is fucked beyond the point of no return, personally. No matter what, it will be frozen out of the global markets for generations.
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The Ukrainian Defence Forces destroy a Russian T-90M "Breakthrough" tank and a BMP-3 with the masterful work of the FPV drone operators.
https://x.com/GloOouD/status/1820399409064001736

https://litter.catbox.moe/bazqhn.mp4
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>>477018627
What do you want me to say? I piss on the quran. I hate pisslam.
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The Ukrainian 46th Airmobile Brigade destroys Russian invader and his motorcycle with FPV drone

The second one shit his pants in fear and ran away
https://x.com/GloOouD/status/1820420412456456484

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>>477019121
>>477019121
>>477019121
Yes
YES
Y33SS
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>zigger shoots his comrade and runs away
Okay, there is ONE based zigger I guess.
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>>477016434
>The deal was stillborn without a guarantee from NATO and you know that. A guarantee from Russia -- ANOTHER one -- would be worth less than the ink on its letterhead. As Russia did with Chechnya, it would simply try again later and with more success.
Rofl, the only thing Russia really asked for was Ukrainian neutrality. It was the same thing Russia asked for before it invaded. Even Stoltenberg admitted as much. For that matter, Arestovich said exactly the same thing. Pic-related.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrCr0_E742k

>Ukraine doesn't have to lose if we continue supporting them.
You're delusional. Ukraine cannot win without direct NATO intervention. This is an existential war for Russia.

>it's more and more likely that Ukraine will be able to hold out until the sanctions on Russia start to truly bring some dark times
You've been saying this for almost three years. It isn't going to happen. For that matter, China is not going to let Russia lose.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-68823399

>Russia's greatest exports are with India, and they get paid in fucking rupees.
False on both counts. China is Russia's largest export partner by far.

https://oec.world/en/profile/country/rus

>Chinese banks, perennially self-interested, are becoming more and more wary of greenlighting sanction-skirting actions for fear of robust secondaries.
China is self-interested, sure. But China and Russia have recently linked each other's currencies together.

https://www.newsweek.com/china-uses-russia-testing-ground-currency-gamble-1903474

>Nabuillina herself has admitted that hard times for Russia are ahead
No she didn't. She said there is a labor shortage.

>you're a gigantic fag and your attempts at bringing about your convoluted white paradise are hopelessly byzantine and unrealistic.
We'll see.
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>>477017367
use this image rohut állat
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>>477019006
Ok, now try to find an equivalent of it in the perfidious west. Actually try find a reason why gulaghomo is better than globohomo I challenge you to. If you deflect from this or straight up refuse to answer, I accept your concession
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>>477019175
This vid cracks me up everytime I see it lmao.
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Hello ukro bros just to let you know that most Croats do not support your war and do not want you to win. All weapons our country sent you is under foreign pressure and to enrich few criminals from ruling party. Yes we dont like Russians very much neither but what we absolutely hate the most is sold out jewish faggot prostitutes like you.
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Ukrainian Air Force F-16AM Fighting Falcon taking off from its Ukrainian airbase, afterburner blazing.

Armed with a CAP loadout of 2x AIM-120B AMRAAMs and 2x AIM-9L/M Sidewinders.
https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1820402019191967793

https://t.me/V_Zelenskiy_official/11288
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>>477019256
Economlet
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>>477017692
>Not only he "didn't count", he didn't implement them and is responsible for structuring it in a way that stalemates implementation from the start.
Tell me, how were they structured in such a way that it prevents Ukraine from implementing them?
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>>477019256
Russian court orders Arestovych's arrest in absentia.
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>>477019383
whats funny is ukraine is doing this in their constant retreating. cracks me up
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>>477019457
Wait what? That nigger was shilling for Russia for years now.
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>>477018947
>Russia could very plausibly devolve even further
Russian economy is growing so far, not devolving. Trying more of the same probably won't work, anon.
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i do prefer all the russkies in ukraine simply get maimed instead of killed in this drone vids
that way they will be combat ineffective and helpless but also strain resources from their comrades in the field for needing medevac and later from the state
though we have seen them just putting a bullet to the head to some maimed guys :DDDD
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>>477019457
Wtf they are after the Makiivka shitter
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>>477019466
Trading several thousand Russians for a few km2 of land seems like a good deal to me.
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>>477019466
>Here are your gains bro
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Russian losses per 05/08/24 reported by the Ukrainian general staff.

+1180 men
+6 tanks
+31 APVs
+69 artillery pieces
+24 UAVs
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1820348662716706952
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>>477018310
I don't think so. The maximum of "balkanization" is Chechnya and Dagestan. However, I don't think it is likely.
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>>477019570
I see youre still unaware and naive about the fate of a samovar
Ill give you a hint - they cause exactly zero resource drain for Russian Federation
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>>477019687 I thinks it's funny since Russhits VPN's keep bringing him up
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>>477019699

Check the Germany losses of territory before total collapse and defeat in WWI. Spoiler they didnt lose any, even held most of Ukraine.
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>>477017422
>You claim Zelensky made an attempt to make peace with Russia. I linked you multiple Carnegie articles that said Zelensky actually switched his stance on peace with Russia to gain support from Western Ukrainians by taking a more hawkish stance against Russia.
>switched his stance
>switched
So you are dumb gorilla nigger who disproves himself in his very same post, showing that he did try to negotiate, but it went nowhere since pidors didn't budge, and then gradually switched stance. All while still being unable to define "real attempt" is.

>You said what I said was a word salad. But if you know anything about American politics, there has been a lot of criticism for Ukraine not holding elections. Zelensky is roundly called a "dictator" and the absence of elections makes a mockery of America's claim to be defending democracy.
Which, once again, is unrelated to pre-war negotiations and is a retarded kremlinoid talking point that somehow ignores legal norms about suspending elections during martial law, which were adopted in 2015 AND pidors having similar laws - as most countries do.

>I don't know the intricacies of the implementation of Minsk or why you think it is Russia's fault Ukraine didn't implement Minsk. But it's kind of a moot point because you know Ukraine was NEVER going to implement Minsk. The West has already admitted as much, including Angela Merkel. The whole thing was a charade to buy time to arm Ukraine.
So neither side implemented it but Ukraine's at fault for not implementing it unilaterally because pee pee poo poo, and not russia both for writing and signing agreement with no algorithm of implementation, while demanding other side to do everything while not doing anything themselves, is that it?

>Surkov never said what you said.
>"We never expected this agreement to be implemented" somehow isn't equal to "agreement is stillborn"
Nigga u dumb, part two: pidor boogalo
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The Ukrainian GUR just released new post-strike satellite imagery of Russia's Morozovsk Airbase.

Ukrainian attack drones destroyed 1x Russian Su-34 fighter bomber, and very likely damaged at least another 2x Su-34s.

Seen below, the charred hulk of a Russian Su-34.
https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1820366254592434667
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>>477019256
>Rofl, the only thing Russia really asked for was Ukrainian neutrality.
No one trusts Russia anymore. Ukraine had a prior guarantee from Russia when it gave up its nukes.
>b-but heckin other stuff!!!
I'm sure some "other stuff" would happen to provide a similarly-flimsy casus belli as the in 2022. Are you wilfully naive or genuinely believing that Russia wouldn't try again?
>She said there is a labor shortage.
I quote directly:
>What does high inflation mean? Like a high temperature in a person, it indicates health problems. In the case of our economy, the picture looks something like this.
>Let's not forget about those people whose already small incomes do not keep up with inflation, for whom our policy of reducing inflation is not an abstraction, but a question of whether they will be able to feed themselves, their families, get out of poverty - on our way there is no avoiding a period of high rates.
>a question of whether they will be able to feed themselves, their families
In what way, exactly, is this not Nabiullina admitting that hard times are ahead? Again, your style of dialectics is completely superficial. I'm sure it's compelling to people who have no clue what you're talking about. They're probably happy to take your internet article links and attemptively authoritative tone at face value. But, like them, you have so little a clue about anything you're saying that you don't even know it. Hard times are ahead for Russia. Sanctions are working. Nabiullina admitted it. It's time for you to concede the point, retard-kun.
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>>477019324
I am against the western anti-white governments. I hope for more White uprisings like in the UK. Clearly you turn a blind eye towards the shitskin and anti-white problem in the west, trying to switch the focus to russia. Russia is not pro-white, but my issues lie with the jewish west, which you defend.
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>>477020001
2x Russian Su-34s likely damaged by a pair of nearby drone impacts.
https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1820366258161713300
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>>477019950
>Comparing this war with WW1
Wew, lad
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>>477019570
Are you a leftist? I remember this image being posted a by some leftoid elokapina faggot in ylis.
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>>477020096
Additional damage to support facilities and two repair hangars.
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>>477019466
What's funnier is Russia has done 50x more retreating in the past 2 years
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>>477020223
Better image of the vaporized ammunition storage facility.

https://t.me/DIUkraine/4216
https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1820366262725198304
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>>477020034
Can you explain how my government or lets make it easy, any western government is anti-white and asociate that instance to fact that you for some reason support rusnigeria?
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>>477019564
>Russian economy is growing so far, not devolving.
It's growing in the sense that numbers are getting bigger, sure. If you just kinda stop your economic evacuation at "more bigger is more gooder," then yeah, the Russian economy is growing. The problem is that much of this growth is purely nominal and doesn't take into account the fact that these record number-value profits are a function of record inflation. It is the nature of inflation that everything seems bigger while not representing the broader economic illnesses underneath. Russia has been dealing with massive inflationary pressures and an economy rapidly entering a state of total war -- where its primary focus is on the production of military goods... which then simply get expended or destroyed in Ukraine in large numbers, effectively wiping out the actual, physical products. Those products leave the material world and they leave the abstract economic world, producing nothing ever again. It is pure waste which is the economic focus of Russia right now.

Things are very, very bad for Russia.
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>>477020403
>evacuation
*evaluation. Fucking phone.
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>>477020403
nice breakdown for dummies
but nigger live in make belief, they think that playing dumb word games on the internet will somehow change facts on the ground
thing is, times of propaganda warfare are too far gone, now the guns are talking and all this post-truth shilling is just ridiculous
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>>477019564
The Russian economic growth is fed entirely by government spending their sovereign wealth fund saved up from being Europe's petrol station for decades.
This fund is not infinite. It is being plowed into military spending on things that inevitably will get destroyed in war.
Thus, this growth does not lead to anything.
Russia's deals with non-aligned countries for their oil are not lucrative enough to offset the effect of sanctions.
Russia's working male population are steadily being sent to the front, leaving factories and skilled industries without the workers necessary for productivity and maintenance.
The sovereign wealth fund spending is a lit fuse, when it runs out, the economy *will* tank. It's inevitable.
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>>477017609
I'm pro Ukraine but I have to admit this pic is epic.
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>>477020790
Nah that's the Zig-geru Jutsu
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>>477020790
Original vid
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>>477020790
3/10
no legwork
shameful display
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>>477019699
>ukraine pushes backwards
what a weird thing
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>>477019437
>Tell me, how were they structured in such a way that it prevents Ukraine from implementing them?
I told you already, clause of holding elections in occupied areas conflicted with clause about withdrawal of illegal armed forces. Pidors demanded elections before withdrawing, Ukraine refused to hold elections without withdrawal of illegal armed forces.
Given that you are slimy kike, i'll underscore this: Ukraine was under no obligations to unilaterally implement agreement or implement anything without other side doing their part, which makes accusations about "not implementing Minsk" meaningless.
Which, once again, raises a question about why pidors put forward such agreement and signed it. Almost like they banked on forcing Ukraine to unilaterally implementing it or at least using it as a smear piece "look they don't implement it, just as we are".
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>>477020362
>countless anti-white attacks by the shitskins and niggers in the uk
>whites fight back for once
>the government runs to defend the shitskins and condemn the whites while blaming le ruzzia
That's one example. Also, importing shitskins and letting them off easy in the courts, like in Sweden and here, is another one.
Curious that you think the west doesn't have shitskin problem. My issue is you people defending this.
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>>477020696
>Russia's working male population are steadily being sent to the front, leaving factories and skilled industries without the workers necessary for productivity and maintenance.
this is perhaps one of the important thing that russian supporters tend to forgot. they act as if those soldiers are materializing out of thin air or demigods of destruction incapable of being killed by puny ukie peashooter
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>>477019175
>not my problem
L O L
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>>477020403

Otherwise in peaceful times produced material goods would last forever? Of course not, all produced good get destroyed it is only a matter of timeframe. For winning sides war can be a great time for exapanding economy and improving technology.
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>>477020696
Which is the reason Russia is begging to end the war as quickly as possible. However, they also want territories, which they don't even control yet, which cancels out and continues the war. Putin just doesn't want to lose face after getting btfo'd by Ukraine. Losing face can mean the complete disintegration of the state propaganda and Kherson was bad enough.
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>>477020916
Trading land for Russian casualties while preserving their own forces due to favourable K:D ratio of a defender seems like a good idea, especially when Russia's economy might collapse and do the job for Ukraine without needing to do any costly offensives.
Ukrainian lives are obviously more valuable than Russian ones.
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Kiev regime is arming islamic terrorist

Don't think west arming them was good idea. Kinda like when Reagan armed talibans
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>>477021134
>it did a heelflip
9/10
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>>477021203
Russia has more arty so positive k/d ratio on their side dimwit
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>>477020916
Thank you for celebrating 20x20km of villages on the 2014 frontline gained over 6 month for hundreds of equipment and tens of thousands of serf lives lost. Here is your 15 rubles lmao.
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>>477017653
No worries, Muslims have a track record by now of losing all modern conflicts they participate in. It's like a death flag to have them on you're side
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>>477017367
TZD
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>>477021283
>it was definitely NOT approved by NATO and friends
kek at this retard
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>>477020691
Sorry but it is not russia that spread online BS about the ghost of Moscow man
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>>477021283
thats what you get for kicking out western security forces and going all in on wagner because you dislike COLONIAL WHIPIPO so much lmao
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>>477021156
Look, a discussion on a theory of value is a little too far outside the scope of the point we're trying to discuss here. The point is not contingent upon coming to a holistic, objective metric of economic value -- it's the idea that one country expending much of its economic resources on expendable arms and munitions -- that it then sells to no one -- is intrinsically wasteful on a commonsense level. Yes, there are always externalities, both positive and negative, but I hope we can both agree that war in a general sense is one of the most fundamentally wasteful human activities.
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>>477021472
Yeah I know the west is ready to arm monsters in order to kill russian and presevre their dominion.

Worrysome.
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>>477021349
Artillery does not cause the level of casualties you seem to think it does.
People in prepared positions can weather the storm a lot better than people running across open ground.
Dumb pro-Russians think that every shell fired = a dead Ukrainian, when in actuality the majority of shells Russia fires hit dirt, because they're not precision weapons.
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>>477020997
>whites fight back for once
Never would have happened in russia, because russians would just get sent to get beat up, raped and indoctrinated by churckas as is the government mandate
>the government runs to defend the shitskins and condemn the whites while blaming le ruzzia
>That's one example. Also, importing shitskins and letting them off easy in the courts, like in Sweden and here, is another one.
Never happened, feel free to show me that one retarded parliament member saying some retarded shit
>Curious that you think the west doesn't have shitskin problem.
My point is that in Russia, it is infinitely worse and are still to scared or not allowed to admit that, because you are a faggot
>My issue is you people defending this.
Then talk to them on twitter, you stupid nigger.
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>>477021473
>f-16s are in Ukraine
>niggers are still seething about le ghots of Kyiv
touch grass pidoras ebanyy
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>>477021648
>Worrysome.
I'm so worried
poor russians saviours of the white race
decadent west is so bad
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>>477018491
Boo!
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>>477021648
Lol, you are a nigger.
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>>477021684
And by many accounts, Ukraine has a significant advantage in counter-battery fire. There are many accounts of Russians putting out one fire mission and then having to either abandon the gun or pack it up in a hurry and leave. Fire missions are very rarely perfectly on-target the first time. Most often, they require adjustments without preset coordinates. The nature of this war is such that static artillery emplacements are incredibly risky for both sides. It follows that Russian artillery may be even less effective than it might seem. If they can't fire a sighting round, get adjustments, and then fire for effect within the amount of time it takes for ukie counterbattery fires to come online, they're probably shooting and scooting without much ability for accuracy.
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>>477021796
Dont kill yourself the day of the first eliminated F16 in Ukraine

It will happen soon
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reminder that russia and belarus try to use migrants as hybrid warfare against the west just to destabilize us
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>>477022194
War brings losses. Who would've though, right, nafri?
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>>477021684
All ukrainian fortification have been crossed.

Soldiers report a rain of fire hence the russian dramatic advance in Donbass these last two month
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>>477022281
>dramatic advance
lol
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>>477022276
You only hot 16 F16 nigger
No repercussions at all, just some western posturing (while they know putin win)
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>>477021508

No it is not, why are consumer goods today made not to be repairable and to last very little. War can create a constant demand for industrial products and great incentives to improve technology and productivity, this is situation today in Russia. On other hand we have a vassal semi colonial state of Ukraine that exists only to fullfil its overlord political and economical interests. Like other western military adventures in recent times it is already a lost cause.
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Tee zee dee
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>>477022350
Alright nigger, that's not what I said though. Stop malding.
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>>477022246
A reminder that Western governments import shitskins anyway.
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>>477019970
>showing that he did try to negotiate
He never actually tried to negotiate. Trump began arming the fuck out of him in 2019 not long after he got elected(Javelins), then by 2021, Ukraine believed it was powerful enough to confront Russia so Zelensky began to take a more hawkish/confrontational position. He effectively threatened the Donbas with poverty and desolation, increased military buildup near DPR/LPR, held joint-NATO military exercises, and pushed anti-Russian language laws.

Basically, Ukraine was promised victory by the United States so it took, as Mearsheimer describes, the Primrose path. Even today delusional Ukies make all kinds of unrealistic demands as if it accomplishes anything but getting more of them killed. Ukrainians think talking tough and spamming gore is the same as winning.

>suspending elections
America held elections during the Civil War. Your excuse for not holding elections means absolutely nothing to us.

>So neither side implemented it but Ukraine's at fault for not implementing it
I have literally no idea why Ukraine can't implement Minsk "first". From what I understand, Minsk is just about Donbas autonomy? What else is there?

Regardless, I don't care to argue about Minsk. You know Ukraine was never going to implement them. You know what this war is really about. Stop playing games with me.

>Nigga u dumb, part two: pidor boogalo
Just because I don't expect you to be honest doesn't mean you have to lie. Russia knew that Minsk was a ruse, because it was, even Merkel admitted to it. It was only stillborn because the Ukrainians refuse to even accept autonomy.

If you want to know why, just go read Brzezinski. He explains it in this article. Basically, America's goal for Ukraine is "national consolidation". Which would be impossible with autonomous Russians regions. Ukraine had to purge itself of everything Russian and consolidate all power in Kiev.

https://comw.org/pda/fulltext/9709brzezinski.html
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Are we winning?
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>>477022194
It will, and you will be the first one to spam that single footage for years, while completely ignoring that russia lost 30% of their ait force, because you are a retard. Just like you spammed that single abrams getting destroyed while ignoring 3000 of destroyed russian tanks Because you either get paid to do it, or you are literally retarded.
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>>477022194
>Dont kill yourself
I won't
Also I cant because I froze to death two winters ago without russain gas and electricity
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>>477022356
The difference being that Russia is paying for all this with sovereign wealth. This will run out, as the incomes that fed this fund have vanished due to sanctions. It's deals with non-aligned countries like India or China are not sufficient to offset this loss.
The Russian government is running at a massive loss and eventually the wheels are going to fall off.
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>>477021473
wow
go russa
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>>477022720
>The Russian government is running at a massive loss and eventually the wheels are going to fall off.
Two more weeks?
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>>477019688
Ziggers don't understand tactical retreats.
One even claimed that ukies have low morale from giving ground. Like having a way out of a compromised position is somehow demoralising.
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>>477021776
You just asserted that the governments aren't anti-white. Just compare Kike Starmer's, a leftoid faggot, response to this and the limp-wristed cucking of the govt's whenever the shitskins chimp out in the west. You are in denial mode. The media is also doing defense for the nigger and shitskins.
And kek at you denying what is happening in Finland, faggot kike. This is the issue. You are ok with niggerifying the west. I don't ask you to support le ruzzia, I only dunk on you faggots and wish for a total collapse of the western govts and a global natsoc White uprising.
Then we will make the holocaust happen for real.
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>>477022814
Okay, tell me how this isn't inevitable?
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>>477022720

Nah budget deficit is just a number on a paper. What matter in the end is number and quality of produced planes, drones, munitions etc.
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>>477022866
The irony is that Russia, as fond as it is of huffing its own historical farts, doesn't seemingly remember its own similarly-successful fighting retreats against Napoleon.
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>>477022937
>My point is that in Russia, it is infinitely worse and are still to scared or not allowed to admit that, because you are a faggot
>I actually don't care
Why are you here then? This is a thread about war. Why can't you just admit that churkas literally own ethnic rusniggers like a cattle? Shouldn't it be easy to admit it? Are you even allowed to admit it? Go on, admit it.
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>>477022944
You faggots have been saying it will collapse any day now for two years. At what point do you guys accept that maybe you just don't know what you're talking about? It's not like any of you actually do.
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>>477023235
I hate anti-white commie kikeraine supporters.
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>>477022937
You're talking to a kike that explicitly loves and supports Israel. He has defended them here in these threads numerous times.
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>>477023264
Holy cringe.
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>>477023264
Gonna be Был-apyc if those niggers try anything
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>>477020029
>Are you wilfully naive or genuinely believing that Russia wouldn't try again?
Try what again? For what reason? If Russia was so eager to take Ukraine for the sake of taking Ukraine, it could have done it any time between 1991 and 2022(and would have been much easier). Moreover, if you listen to Arestovich, Russia knows that a neutral Ukraine would inevitably become a pro-Russia Ukraine(the Yanukovych's would eventually return to power).

>In what way, exactly, is this not Nabiullina admitting that hard times are ahead?
She raised interest rates to curb inflation because the Russian economy is "overheating". Basically, there is more capital in the system than there is production. And production cannot be increased because there is a labor shortage.

Some offhand remark that inflation hurts the working poor is not proof of "hard times ahead". It's only proof that if she doesn't raise interest rates there will be inflation.
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>>477023264
holy shit america is destroy
ZDAVAYSA HAHOOOOOOOOOOOL
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>>477023433
This time you remembered to turn on your VPN
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clips
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>>477023250
Where is Russia going to magic the money and manpower from to run their military industrial complex when they aren't making enough money from oil and their manpower is being depleted by warfare?
It's simply maths.
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>>477023433
Why are you hiding behind VPN? Are you ashamed of your country?
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>>477023351
Thank you for admitting that you are paid for your opinionsby never reacting to the question at hand. I accept your concession. I will give you one more chance to admit it. Will you take it, sandnigger lover? Admit it.
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>>477023557
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>>477023434
>And production cannot be increased because there is a labor shortage.

Nonsense, Russia has plenty of men. They even recruit tens of thousands each month. How could Russia have labor shortage.
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>>477023264
The full version with that clapping retard at the end is even funnier kek.
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>>477023618
So again, two more weeks?
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>>477022533
>He never actually tried to negotiate.
Define "actually tried to negotiate".

>America held elections during the Civil War.
Britain did not held elections until end of WW2.

>I have literally no idea why Ukraine can't implement Minsk "first".
Because there's no obligation to do so and running elections in an area controlled by foreign state is unreasonable, especially in the wake of Crimea and Donbabwe "voting" in a rushed, unnecessarily opaque process that, of course, had "right" results.

>Regardless, I don't care to argue about Minsk.
Yeah, you brought it up, got fed shit and now "don't care". Just as with Zelelele.

>Russia knew that Minsk was a ruse
Pidors, who forced Minsk at gunpoint, knew it was western ruse? Reminds of that joke about someone else taking a shit in your pants.

>It was only stillborn because the Ukrainians refuse to even accept autonomy.
Literally had no reason to and it does nothing to diminish pidor responsibility from composing agreement in a way that makes it un-implementable, then demanding Ukraine to unilaterally implementing it.
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>>477023354
I know. A tyopical anti-white kikeraine supporter.
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>>477021156
You fund businesses , tools, equipment it will work for the economy and pay for itself back and some.
You fund bombs , they go bum and you have Jack shit.
Clear enough?
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>>477023433
yes
daaaaa!
RUSSA WILL WIN
UHILANTS GO HOME
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>>477020932
>I told you already, clause of holding elections in occupied areas conflicted with clause about withdrawal of illegal armed forces. Pidors demanded elections before withdrawing, Ukraine refused to hold elections without withdrawal of illegal armed forces.
I understand the demand, but I don't see why international observers couldn't be invited in to run the elections in the Donbas. This just sounds like an excuse from kikeraine. Especially since we all know how people would have voted(just like in Crimea).

For that matter, Ukraine likes to pretend that no one in Crimea actually supported the independence referendum and that everyone in Crimea secretly wants to be part of Ukraine but mean Russian soldiers(little green men) intimidated them into voting for the referendum.

This is obviously delusional. Everyone in Crimea hates kikeraine because nearly everyone in Crimea is literally Russian.
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>>477023264
what is this pchooly shit
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>>477022533
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAA nigger
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>>477021283
I'm Sure Mighty Puccia will handle a few goat farmers right? Whatsatw's the problem?
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>>477023790
You can't argue anything except 'It hasn't happened yet'
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>>477023354
Uh oh somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed. Or you are literally paid to pretend to be retarded while on VPN lmao.
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>>477024202
wat u mean?? its always the juice. never differento
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>>477021349
not only the artillery gap closes in the past months but the accuracy difference between dogshit 1950s Soviet tubes and more modern (80s to 90s systems), longer ranged 155s artillery means there's a negligeable difference in effect
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>>477023708
>Nonsense, Russia has plenty of men. They even recruit tens of thousands each month. How could Russia have labor shortage.
Because there are like 600k men in Ukraine. The Army has like doubled in size since 2022, and a lot of people are working in armaments factories(instead of doing actual productive work). On top of that, Russia is having a housing boom. There is a massive labor shortage which is why Russia's unemployment rate is close to zero.
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>>477021684
French tested this
You need 16 dumb round for counter battery fire to be effective, while smart ammo does the job with 3 rounds .
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>>477024171
>we've been claiming something for over two years now
>please ignore that it hasn't happened yet
Nigger, you're the one claiming it will happen.
>>477024202
So are you denying it, kike? And no, the only people paid to be here are the /uhg/ shills like you.
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>>477023860
I am supporting a white country defending itself against an invasion against a stronger country, where ethnic citizens get beaten up on camera, raped and sent to churka jail for burning the quaran. You are shilling for this country to take over the defending country. You couldn't be more brown. This is why your shir propaganda fails. You have no point to stand on. This is why you lost the information war. You can beg for Ukrainian surrender, but it will accomplish nothing, while you will be sent to the front. You lost.
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>>477024202
Let us get this straight, for future's sake.
You support the ukraine, because you support a communist, anti-white, and jewish-controlled west.
I oppose the ukraine and most of its supporters for the same reason.
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>>477023456
hot
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>>477024529
Brownoid
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>>477024529
>Russia invading Ukraine is akshually because of the kikes
You are not even fucking trying
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>>477023456
what the fuck are these genes lmao
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>>477022194
Every single piece of equipment, it's the same thing whit you zigger fags.
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>>477024547
Funny. It is illegal to burn the quran in Finland while it is legal to deface the bible and incite hatred towards whites but not niggers.
Get the fuck out of here with your larp straight from the cia manual of style about a white country defending itself.
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>>477020862
What did he mean by this?
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>>477024529
We've been claiming it since we realised that their growth is entirely funded by a finite source.
If you light a fuse that's 2km long and then claim the bomb is never going to go off because it's taking a long time, you are still going to be wrong.
Unless Russia can be bankrolled entirely by China to the degree the West is supporting Ukraine, then eventually it's going to fail.
China has shown it's not prepared to do this, because it fears US sanctions more than Russian feelings.
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>>477024668
You guys often claim Russia is somehow more zogged than the West, which is laughable of course, but it is your position.
>>477024645
Nope, were that the case I'd start claiming Russia is based or some other such nonsense.
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>>477023434
>Try what again? For what reason?
Why take Chechnya? Why invade Ukraine? Yes, I'm sure you have a bunch of reasons. There will always be reasons. I have to point out that arguments resting on the rationality of a country that just invaded its neighbor (oh, and Georgia recently, too) seems like a poor attempt at socially engineering an impression of Russia that is trustworthy. If I punched you in the face and gave you a bunch of seemingly-plausible reasons for why I did it -- which of course don't include you punching me first -- would you trust me not to punch you in the face again? You would be very rational to update your impression of me as someone who's willing to punch you in the face for my own reasons and deal with me on that basis... providing, of course, that being punched in the face is something unpleasant to you. Maybe you're into that!
>>477023434
>Some offhand remark that inflation hurts the working poor is not proof of "hard times ahead"
If Putin stops arbitrarily inflating the economy by incentivizing enlistments in the army with 500k (and growing monthly) RUB bonuses and arbitrarily inflating the salaries of defense industry workers... sure, Nabiullina might actually be able to tame that inflation. The problem is that she's being forced to try to patch up things she'd never approve, if it were up to her. The admission that hard times are ahead is implicit in her statement -- Putin isn't going to stop the primary inflationary drivers because he sees them as vital to the war effort. She is being overridden by Putin. She's doing everything she can, I'm sure, but the most effective tools in her toolbox are locked away from her. She ultimately has a very limited ability to tame inflation without addressing the root causes.

Point being, it's all well and good to try to twist the words into the favor of Your Guy, but a broader and more-educated view takes these recent statements as more of a patch in a greater quilt.
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>>477024886
So again, two more weeks. That's all you fucking have.
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>>477024547
Beg? Ukraine is a vassal state, working on behalf of the JewSA. They’re not fighting for Ukraine, they’re fighting for us. Even in your pathetic green text you rave about sinking the 1000th ship, while this is not a naval war. But you need to do it because we pay you and we tell you what to do.
Vassals never win. It’s just a matter of time.
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>>477025013
You haven't countered a single claim I've made.
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>>477025023
>while this is not a naval war
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>>477025023
>They’re not fighting for Ukraine, they’re fighting for us.
No, they're very clearly fighting for themselves as well. They'd be fighting even if we weren't wasting money on them. Of course this isn't an argument to keep wasting money on them, but it's ridiculous to pretend that the Ukrainians don't want to expel invaders.
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Damn that russian ammunition storage that was hit yesterday doesn't look so good now.
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>>477024565
>Anti-white west
People protest against islam, get a slap on the wrist at most
>Rusnigeria
One guy burns quaran, gets sent to chechnya and gets beaten up for the whole internet to see, gets sent to chechen jail and gets forced to get indoctrinated with islam lessons, while the ethnic population doesn't say a word and the president keeps quite like a good boy.
You are the least pro-white person in this thread, nigger. If you weren't, you woukd have acknowledged the fact that ethnic rusnigger serfs are owned by the churkas. You are not allowed to acknowledge it. Once again I am challenging you, to defend rusnigeria being owned by churkas without deflecting like a pussy faggot.
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>>477025079
Because I don't need to? Reality seems to be doing that for me.
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>>477024811
How is the Finnish state of affairs relevant to the Ukrainian War? Do tell, kotiryssä.
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>>477024933
>You guys often claim Russia is somehow more zogged than the West, which is laughable of course, but it is your position.
What does "zogged" mean when it comes to sandniggers? (You will deflect).
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>>477025023
>this is not a naval war
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>>477025262
The Russian sovereign wealth fund is finite.
Does reality say otherwise?
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>>477022246
Pfff, I remind that jewish NCO brought ( and still bring lol ) hundreds thousand niggers from africa using german vessels and gullible leftist faggots with weak wrists and coalburners.
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>>477023816
>Define "actually tried to negotiate".
I honestly have no idea what Zelensky was doing between 2019 and early 2021 other than talking to Trump on the phone about Javelin missiles and getting his soldiers trained by NATO. What I do know is that Ukraine was being heavily militarized in that time, and that the United States tried to "color revolution" Lukashenko in Belarus, but it failed. That failure seems to be what hastened the series of events in 2021 that ultimately led to Russia invading.

>Britain did not held elections until end of WW2.
And? Britain is irrelevant. I'm talking about my country. You know, the only country that actually matters.

>running elections in an area controlled by foreign state is unreasonable
It's not unreasonable. Not only because international observers could be brought in, but we all know how the Donbas would vote anyway. You know this is just an excuse. Don't bullshit me.

>you brought it up
I only brought it up in the context of the 2019 election. Which someone claimed proves Eastern Ukrainians support the war against Russia. No it doesn't. This video actually proves it.

https://youtu.be/LKAt56zW0-g?t=745

>Pidors, who forced Minsk at gunpoint, knew it was western ruse?
At gunpoint, rofl. It was literally negotiated through Germany and France, and supposedly guaranteed by them as well. Regardless, it was the best Russia could hope for, but Russia knew not to count its chickens.

Regardless, if you read that article from Brzezinski, and the Grand Chessboard, and the RAND corporation study, you would understand what this war is really about. It's not exactly enjoyable arguing with you about irrelevant shit that changes nothing.
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>>477023157
Weren't those strategic?
Ziggers are expected to die were they stand instead of falling back and trying again,, that's what Chechens are for. It's extremely inhumane, it's like one step away from having them advance in line formations.
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>>477025360
Not sure I understand your question. To be zogged is to be under the control of kikes. The West explicitly is, at least my own government. Russia also has issues in this regard, but it doesn't seem quite as bad nor does their being under control of kikes impact me.
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>>477019323
Pics of ukrainian graveyards don't mean much when you know russia's grave yard expenses has tripled.
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>>477025483
Yeah, it was more of a grand strategic retreat, but the point remains: retreat is not only a last resort in the face of defeat but a tool that can be aggressively utilized in service of tactical or strategic victory.
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>>477020854
Fking lmao
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>>477025286
Kommarilla tunteisiin? Hyvä.
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>>477024811
>Deflects
Thank you for pretending that 6 months in jail for blasphemy (of any kind, even against christianity) in Finland of any kind is in any way comparable to the fact, that you get filmed getting beaten up, sent to jail, raped and indoctrinated in Russia, if you burn quaran. Also, thank you for your concession. You lost. the information war. The reason why your metodichka sucks more and more is because you don't have any argument. You just deflect and pretend thaz rusniggers aren't owned by the churkas.
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>>477023957
>I understand the demand, but I don't see why international observers couldn't be invited in to run the elections in the Donbas.
Because they had no legal standing to do so and pidors refused international oversight. The whole "conflict" could've been solved or at least frozen by peacekeeping mission, yet pidors refused that too... unless the mission would consist of their troops.

>For that matter, Ukraine likes to pretend that no one in Crimea actually supported the independence referendum and that everyone in Crimea secretly wants to be part of Ukraine but mean Russian soldiers(little green men) intimidated them into voting for the referendum.
No, we like to pretend that control over Crimea was first seized by unmarked pidor troops (pidors denied involvement, for some reason), who then proceeded to arrest local parliament, turn off video recording of the session (legally required to confirm quorum), then suddenly parliament is headed by party that has 4 seats out of 150 and announces referendum that has no option for maintaining status-quo, no observers from Ukraine or UN, only pidor-friendly nobodies without mandate, then "people's mayor" (isn't legally defined, has no authority) signs accession to pidoria. All the while pro-Ukraine protests are forcibly dispersed by plainclothes non-locals, while cops do not react in any way.
Also voting allowed anyone to have a ballot without ID or registration, to the point where pidors traveled to vote, even pidor MP participated while being filmed on camera, thus invalidating entire voting.

>This is obviously delusional. Everyone in Crimea hates kikeraine because nearly everyone in Crimea is literally Russian
Which is why instead of being as open as possible pidors made every effort to obfuscate voting, then made secession illegal. That's what you usually do when there's 90% popular support lol.
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>>477023434
>wouldn't try again?
Try what again? For what reason? If Russia was so eager to take Ukraine for the sake of taking Ukraine, it could have done it any time between 1991 and 2022(and would have been much easier). Moreover, if you listen to Arestovich, Russia knows that
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>>477025463
why are you making it even worse then?
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Ukraine STILL doesn't control crimea
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>477021283
Schrodinger's Uktaine: both out of men and able to deploy significant forces half a world away better than pussya.
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>>477025023
>Self defense against churka owned state is jewish
Thank you for proving my point, nigger
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>>477023618
Math is russophobic. Please stop and report to HR.
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>>477022469
ah okay that justifies what russia and belarus try to do then
BASED
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>>477025715
Onks sulla mitään asiaa vai ootko ihan skitsofreenikko niinku luulinkii?
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>>477025483
lol there are western mercs who left ukraine exposing how AFU used them as blocking detachments.
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>>477025549
>To be zogged is to be under the control of kikes.
Can you show an actual example? And you cannot talk about USA providinf aid to their strategic ally, Israel.
>Russia also has issues in this regard, but it doesn't seem quite as bad nor does their being under control of kikes impact me.
That is because Russia is controlled by muslims. Ethnic russians are serfs for their churka overlords.
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>>477025857
Vlad pidor makes it, also it is not my problem lol.
Looks like european snowflake faggots cannot protect themselves against hordes of niggers they voluntarily bring in their country. Well, only the strongest survive! And mudslime niggers are stronger than western snowflakes.
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>>477025951
Seems like just... Not letting in shitskins solves that problem yeah?
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>>477026139
May I see it?
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>>477026164
>Can you show an actual example?
>And you cannot talk about USA providinf aid to their strategic ally, Israel.
Kike confirmed.
>That is because Russia is controlled by muslims.
Sucks for them, don't see how that's my problem though.
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>>477024956
>Why invade Ukraine?
I dunno, why don't you ask William Burns. He said in 2008 that expanding NATO into Ukraine would force Russia to.

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08MOSCOW265_a.html

Regardless, you need to stop thinking of Ukraine as a country. It isn't. It's just lines on a map where almost everyone hates each other and people don't even speak the same language or have the same religion.

Kikerainians rant about Russia being "gulaghomo", but Russians have infinitely more freedom than kikerainians do. Ukraine is literally a Jewish colony. It is not an ethnostate or whatever they try to larp as. It's an absolute shithole. Impoverished, retarded, tyrannical. They don't even let you leave the country. They assassinate people, they kidnap people, they torture people, etc.

They're everything they claim Russia is but worse.
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>>477025387
>>477025178
Show me the effect of the naval war on Kharkiv. I pay you to fight and die at the front, not to waste time on a board that will never accept your bullshit.
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>>477026320
>Kike confirmed.
Thank you for conceding, couldn't have done it without you
>Sucks for them, don't see how that's my problem though.
At least you are honest
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If Ukraine had not defeated the Black Sea fleet, their economy would have collapsed from the resulting naval blockade.
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Remember lads, if they were winning, they'd be celebrating, not debating.
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>>477026176
but russia is importing mass amounts of blacks, browns and yellows just to save themselves from demographic collapse and also more meat to fight with in ukraine
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>>477026139
Source please?
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>>477017367
>the himars will turn the tide
>the abrams will turn the tide
>the leopards will turn the tide
>the ATACMS will turn the tide
>the f16 will turn the tide
so when can we expect some significant gains from ukraine? russia should be out of ammo by now right?
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>>477026403
>you can't use the most blatant form of kike control when talking about kike control!
In a just world you'd be crucified, you know that right kike?
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>>477026382
>i dunno, let me just dodge the entire point you're making (and try to refocus away from the economic argument i'm going to conveniently ignore and hope you don't notice) and show you this heckin wikileaks cable that proves russia is gudboi and westoid heckin bad!
I guess this is the closest to a concession anyone will ever be able to get out of someone as intellectually dishonest as you are.
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>Something gonna save us
They switched from "F-16s wouldn't do shit" to "Providing F-16s is the way NATO washing their hands and then no obligation" in less than a week lmao
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lots of seething going on in this one, is it planes?
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>>477026206
I don't even know if it was a video I just heard americans getting interviewed on youtube talking about having to be a part of a barrier detachment.
I did find this link. I didn't read it all but I am positive both sides use this tactic.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/azov-leader-admits-to-ukrainian-use-of-blocking-detachments/
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>>477026685
Yes, seems so. They even got a Finnish kotiryssa here.
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>>477026685
yes
(+life as a russian is hell and it makes them seethe extra hard)
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>>477026602
You are a kike.

I just used the most blatant form of kike control, which means you are a kike. Thank you for playing you fucking retard. Feel free to provide an example of jews ruling over you, while another rusnigger gets beaten up, jailed, rape and indoctrinated for looking at quaran wrong lmao.
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>>477025475
>I honestly have no idea what Zelensky was doing between 2019 and early 2021
In other words, you make an accusation that you cannot define and admit to knowing nothing about the topic.

>Britain is irrelevant.
So is USA.

>It's not unreasonable.
It is.

>I only brought it up in the context of the 2019 election.
"I don't care to argue about it but i brought it up as an argument and got paddled for it"

>At gunpoint, rofl.
Are you trying to say there was no coercion?

>Regardless, if you read that article
I would not. If you cannot argue for yourself and have to appeal to someone else's authority, then speaking to you is pointless. Also, anything they say is literally an opinion, not a fact and can be challenged, if not for the fact that author is unlikely to be reached, so it's not an ace you think it is.
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>>477026685
Some /chug/ger doxxed himself and got into trouble and now the regulars know the glowies are using /chug/ as honey pot
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>>477026576
>FAB FAB FAB FAB FAB FAB FAB
Can we see the Armata in action please? T-54 are getting boring.
Where is the SU57 going to operate?
Why can't the black sea fleet stay afloat?
Why are the rates at 18%?xps2n
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>>477026512
This is also not my problem.
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>>477026576
>russia should be out of ammo by now right?
What everyone failed to predict was that the second military power in the world having to make deals with North Korea chinks for ammo
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>>477026902
ESL troubles?
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>>477026576
>Nobody has ever said that
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>>477027190
Once again, I accept your concession. You are a stupid deflecting nigger lmao
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>>477027319
I swear you kikes used to be better at shilling. I guess that's you stick to the containment thread.
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>>477025800
Rofl, so you do actually think Crimeans want to be part of Ukraine. Delusional.

You do realize the Crimeans wanted independence even before the fucking coup? And Russia did invite in observers, retard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Crimean_status_referendum#Polling_prior_to_Russian_occupation
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>>477017367
>that meme
So Ukraine kicked russia out after they occupied their country for 2.5 years, and now Ukraine has invaded Russia?

Always worth the lulz coming here to /cope/ general
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https://youtu.be/ViwC042PsQI

this shows a ukrainian barrier detachment engaging ukrainian retreating forces. I believe.
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>>477026186
which is what we did with newly approved legislation against migrant hordes from russia??
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>>477027349
I hope you will like these new brown and muslim finns. And remember, Kallergi's plan doesn't exist!
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>>477027560
While still importing them yourselves and protecting the ones you have? So based!
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>>477027464
>Look at me I am not newfag
Very weak. You are free to try again, tourist.
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>>477027513
>So Ukraine kicked russia out after they occupied their country for 2.5 years, and now Ukraine has invaded Russia?
Where the fuck do you see this in that meme?
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>>477027560
im sure you are fine with all the pakis and niggers moving in though. ISHYGDDT
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>>477027703
>y-you're the tourist
lmao
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>>477027187
Hahahaha
This cope is hilarious

>Ukraine begs for shekels from literally every nation on earth
>russia gets ammo from allies
>hurrrr durr russia got billets somewhere else

You poor sad retards lol
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>>477027513
Newfag
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>>477027513
No, retard.
Russia repeatedly warned against supplying certain types of weaponry to Ukraine by NATO . 2 .5 years multiple red lines crossed, and Russia doesn't do shit. Fucking impotent country and people . Unless it comes to gay raping each other
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>>477027486
heh, trying to reason with the fags that exist in this general.
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>>477027753
Exactjy
Thank you rabbi
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>>477027882
Everybody you disagree with is a rabbi? How convenient.
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>>477027806
Ukraine didnt have 70 years of soviet stockpiles in 2022
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>>477027853
I dunno about impotent. They stomped ukraine and all of their foreign help.
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>>477027788
Feel free to not deflect any time soon, it just makes you look even more retarded Thank you for all rhe bunping too
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>>477027831
Is that you’re new wunderwaffe? Calling everyone a newfag?

Great strategy. I’m sure it will pay huge dividends
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>>477027674
>you are already importing migrants anyway, just let russia move in massive hordes of people through the border!!
what an absolute retard lmao
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>>477017773
are those in ukraine now?
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>>477027806
It is embarrassing for an alleged super power.
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>>477027933
Please saaar it is the only thing they have left, do not rederm
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>>477027933
>everybody
Who else have I called a rabbi?
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baking at 300
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>>477028111
Yeah that's not what I said. Why are you allowing either?
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>>477028101
>you're
Great strategy, maybe hire someone, who isn't completely fucking retarded next time. Feel free to double down or blame phonefagging.
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>>477026382
So, is this NATO expansion in the room with us right now?
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Is that one new? Also what the fuck is he even doing, did he tie a grenade to a rope to strangle himself? Kek.
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>>477027658
>>477026512
nigga you have no place to throw stones at glass houses lmao
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>>477028192
So you're not coming here guns blazing trying to do yidsliding in the thread?
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>>477028148
To what? Use an allies weapons? I'm not sure that is the own you are thinking it is. How about this. You guys start fighting and winning and then you can win the war and you won't need bullshit propaganda to sell a win. You will just have an obvious win. You know like getting your borders back and maybe pushing into russia or something....
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>>477028312
I am not going to throw stones, I am not a muslim monkey. Also my shoulders hurt.
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>>477018022
they will memory hole the whole war harder then they did WW1 and winter war combined. its their go to cope for every single war they ever lost
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>>477026913
>In other words, you make an accusation that you cannot define and admit to knowing nothing about the topic.
If Zelensky was actually making the overtures you imagine, someone would have said it by now. Not even Ukraine's biggest supporters claim Zelensky did anything except whine about how Minsk was unfair.

>So is USA.
Rofl. If Britain disappeared tomorrow. What happens? Nothing. If America disappeared tomorrow. What happens? The war would be over. America is the only relevant party in "The West". Europe is just America's vassals.

>Are you trying to say there was no coercion?
There was coercion from both sides. That's what a negotiation is. If Russia was actually holding a gun to your head, there would be no Minsk.

>If you cannot argue for yourself and have to appeal to someone else's authority
I literally can't post it all here, retard. Sorry you're an illiterate fuck who doesn't like to read. Not that I expect anything more from a kikerainian. If Ukrainians weren't retards they wouldn't have committed suicide. Pic-related.
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>>477028540
hey pussy why havent you responded to him
>>477026643
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>>477028540
I can come over omce the dust has settled and CUM as much as I can to help ukraine out
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>>477027989
As far as we know it's not over. Russian advances this year are 567km2 of cottages and fields .
At the same time rates are 18%
17 refinerys are hit and not operating.
Gazprom has taken massive losses and needed to be saved by the state from bankruptcy. Shortage of workers. China won't take their money. Kadyrow publicly goes against Putin's statement. 30% of airpower is down. Black sea fleet is decimated and ran from Crimea, which btw suffered a exodus this year o 500k Russians.
Yeah, real win.
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>>477026742
>>477026516
>>477026206
Here is a bit of what I could get together anyone want to discuss?
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>>477029015
>Kadyrow publicly goes against Putin's statement.
what happen
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>>477028527
>We sure showed them coomrade! HATO is PANICKING right now! Sure, we might have lost all of our military buildup that took a century to achieve, but we got 5 Leopards though xaxaxa
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>>477029015
Ok but did they beat Ukraine? I didn't ask at what cost.
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NEW THREAD
>>477029188
>>477029188
>>477029188
>>477029188
>>477029188
(holy digits btw, Heil Hitler)
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>>477028667
Because Mearsheimer and Oliver Stone haven't told him what to believe about it yet.
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I understand this is going to boil over into a World War. I am going to fight for my country but I hate watching people underestimate Russia. If they do that we are going to get fucked up way worse than we should.
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>>477029139
Putin criticised the burka as un Russian.
Kadyrow declared he will kill anyone that will try to unclothe the ninjas.
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>>477029015
As far as the war is concerned its a solid stalemate. Opportunity for decisive military victory came and passed with western cowards fucking it up with the indecisiveness. Now main chance for ukranian complete victory is vatnikstan crumbling from the inside. Which is not that far off if ukranians have the stamina to hold on and the retards in the west dont start cucking out even more by taking monkes "peace" ultimatum
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>>477029217
No. They are still fighting.
Ukraine did not capitulate, nor accepted any demands.
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>>477029139
vatnikstan is embracing its inner churkaness. They are in denial about it just like their homosexuality
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>>477029696
Yes. And the shill pretend not to see this.



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