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▶Day: 950 — Daily battlefield assessment: http://isw.pub/UkraineConflictUpdatesISW

▶Latest
>Ukrainian FM Sybiga had a meeting with his Hungarian counterpart
>Frontline regions receive hundreds of generators to prepare for potential blackouts over winter - The Guardian
>Monke: russia will accomplish all goals set in Ukraine xd
>Ukrainian forces reportedly struck a russian ammo depot and missile storage facility near Kotluban, Volgograd - ISW
>Trump vows to resolve Ukraine-russia war ‘very quickly’ as he meets Zelenskyy
>Biden announced more than $8bn in military assistance for Ukraine during Zelenskyy's White House visit
>Ukrainian forces continued to regain positions in Vovchansk - ISW
>Monke warns West he will consider using noooks
>Neither russian nor Ukrainian forces made recent confirmed advances in Kursk - ISW
>The russia established a weapons programme in China to develop and produce long-range attack drones for use in its war against Ukraine - Reuters
>Trump: Ukraine should have made concessions to russia instead of going to war with its invading neighbor
>Blinken announced $375m in military aid for Ukraine on Wednesday
>Zelenskyy: russia planning to attack Ukrainian nuclear power plants
>Russian army deploying air defense systems at the towers near Kerch bridge
>Zelenskyy: War with russia is closer to end than many believe
>Over half of foreign components in russian weapons come via China, Ukraine says
>Indian PM Modi holds a bilateral meeting with Zelenskyy, in New York, US
>Iran's new president condemned russia's invasion of Ukraine

▶Telegram
http://rentry.org/telosint2023
http://t.me/ukr_pics

▶Intel
http://t.me/DeepStateEN
http://odin.tradoc.army.mil/WEG (equipment explorer)
http://ukr.warspotting.net (visually confirmed losses)

▶Maps
http://deepstatemap.live/en
http://liveuamap.com/en
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>>483300372
TOTAL ZIGGER DEATH
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>>483300372
stop making these shitty tranny threads
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message to the bald "italian" faggot from anon:
>PEE PEEE POO POO
>OOK NOOK
>PRÖÖÖÖÖÖH!! :DDDD
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https://files.catbox.moe/dx7jlo.mp3
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>483300413
>stop making these shitty tranny threads
no
also no yuans
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close to the top for USSR and larping as a filter
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>>483300449
>actually drinking wasn’t socially accepted in the USSR
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kek
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budanov going to the store!
anything you want him to get for you?
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T Z D
Z D
D E A T H
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>>483300601
A Bandera Burger on the way back would be nice
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>>483300601
New broom handle and a pastry
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>>483300449
Thank you for delivering this message, anon. I hope bald faggot received it.
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Not only did Ukraine lose Ugledar but they also disbanded the 72nd because it lost all combat capability after the fight.

Gotta love no retreat orders, historically not such a beneficial idea in Ukraine.
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>>483300601
>>483300601
>>483300601
HE'S
UNFATHOMABLY
BASED
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>>483300503
unironically kinda catchy
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>>483300601
A can of Zhivchik, kilo of meaty salo, garlic, rye bread and loads of kielbasa, plus, Budonov.
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>>483300372
Pls include
>>483292845
>Today Peskov officially stated that the Ukrainian drone strikes on the Russian Federation do not violate the new nuclear doctrine.
>https://t.me/akovalenko1989/7976
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͡°ᴥ ͡°)
>>VDV
Dropped
>>Moskva
Returned
>>Crests
Peaked
>>Gloves
Off
>>Eyebrow
Raised
>>Great Leader
Spoken
>>Bear
Awoken
>>Tuvan
Shrugged
>>Everyone
Understood
>>Ass
In the Ass
>>Missile
Ass
>>Button
Observed
>>Balls
Scratched
>>Munitions
Rubbered
>>Red-line
Approached
>>Things
Known
>>Conclusions
Drawn
>>Hedgehog
Aggravated
>>Potatoes
Peeled
>>Banan
Demanded
>>Cauldron
Simmering
>>Prigozhin
Complicated
>>Trash heap
Climbed
>>Pants
Gravy’d
>> Tactical
Strengthened
>>Coconuts
Corroded
>>Forelock
Squared
>>Eggs
Measured
>>Mobiks
Cubed
>>Flight
Eternal
>>Meds
Forsaken
>> 9/11
@Home
>>Pools
Closed
>>Scooters
Boogaloo'd
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QRD on this lumbersexual ?
He's endorsing our current ziggerophile government and accuses you of "dragging" the country into the war.
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I love dead Russians, anyone feels the same?
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>>483300644
coming right up comrade!
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MAJORITY OF AMERICANS & VETERANS SUPPORT UKRAINE

JAKE BROE:
https://youtu.be/odfigtA4olw?si=S8naQSLbsefFJFw9

RYAN MCBETH:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_NegaBRfRU

PRESTON STEWART:
https://youtu.be/NdPjS3EvcFU?si=C2HO2WmbGmid4wE_

GLORY TO HEROES
SLAVA UKRAINE

AUGUSTUS TRIBUTE ::
https://youtu.be/VSk_kT9K4d0?si=Bo3qx0DK5quHgrpC

CESARE BORGIA TRIBUTE :: MACHIAVELLIAN PRINCE
https://youtu.be/aa8oJiIQZxg?si=UIPi0v2n4YGwJZsw

GEORGE WASHINGTON TRIBUTE ::
https://youtu.be/TdZ84aCfDsg?si=jWJMZhjkW2nNpX7O

HONOR OUR ANCESTORS
FREEDOM COMES FROM THE SWORD
WE WILL NEVER GO BACK
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>>483300763
Dead orks are a heartwarming sight
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>>483300552
>actually anal sex between men wasn’t socially accepted in the USSR
>picrelated

>>483300601
>anything you want him to get for you?
yeah, one big portion of TZD, please

>>483300655
you are welcome

>>483300741
shit, i forgot about that, will include in next OP if it's baked by me
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>>483300372
TZD
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>>483300861
>ork
Orc*
Ordinary Russian Citizen
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>>483300762
>QRD on this lumbersexual ?

lmao, you really expect people here know anything about Georgian politics?
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>>483300372
Has anyone got the screenshot of the Russian soldier knocking a Ukrainians door and asking for food when the war first started? They were comfy times
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>>483300503
Kino
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>>483300911
he's a ukrainian politician
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>>483300897
nice one
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INTERNET CUT OUT
IN CASE
MY IP CHANGED J-A-N-N-I-E-S
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UKRAINE MUST BE ALLOWED TO USE LONG RANGE CAPABILITIES // STRIKES DEEP INTO RUSSIA

UKRAINE NOW HAS DEVELOPED, IN TWO YEARS, THEIR OWN DRONES + BALLISTIC MISSILES... OUTSTANDING WORK, EXCELLENT.

WERNHER VON BRAUN IS LAUGHING HYSTERICALLY

$50,000,000,000.00
SECURED FOR UKRAINE

ALL RESTRICTIONS ON LONG RANGE CAPABILITIES MUST BE LIFTED... RINSE // REPEAT THIS MESSAGE.

30 // 30 JAKE BROE TRUCKS DELIVERED TO UKRAINE

NEW FUNDRAISER: $1,000,000.00 FOR 1,000 DAYS OF WAR
UPDATE: $745,000.00 RAISED IN 4 DAYS. https://youtu.be/jD-Jaag3wAU?si=Ass5tNC3KQGq3xed

EITHER WAY
UKRAINE IS NOW MASS PRODUCING THEIR OWN DRONES & BALLISTIC MISSILES

IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER WAY TICK-TOCK --- STORM SHADOW APPROVED

PENTAGON ANNOUNCED
NEW AID PACKAGE
ADDITIONAL $8,000,000,000.00 SECURED FOF UKRAINE'S WAR EFFORT. WONDERFUL NEWS.
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Fresh Dead Zigger Storage, from Vovchansk
https://t.me/karymat/9174
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>cofi status?
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comfy happening in vovchansk
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Is there hope for Mariupol or is it simply a matter of recolonizing when pidors freeze this winter?
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MASS PRODUCTION
&
DEEP STRIKES
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>>483300762
Afaik he is some zigger nigger that for some reason doesnt get the comfy sbu basement cell
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>>483301192
>>483301192
>>483301192
THEY SAID I COULD
BE ANYTHING... SO I BECAME
/c o m f y/
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>>483300449
I will deliver the message
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>>483301209
west doesn't want Ukraine to win
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>>483301189
>cofi status?
had two
need more
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>>483301192
Vovchansk castle stands
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>>483300601
>grapefruit juice
based banderite
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>>483300762
>>483300762
>>483300762
QRD
ON
SN33D BY: JAMES MASON
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>>483301342
Zigger death by western weapons beg to differ
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>>483301192
Imagine the smell
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TZD BTW
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Another angle
https://t.me/officer_alex33/3849
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>>483300799
meanwhile in reality.
zigger propaganda is like reverse meme magic, a shit midas that redirects every curse straight back to them lmao
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>>483301192
>>483301502
this is not comfy at all
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>>483301514
Russians mirror literally everything, glad westerners finally wake up to this reality
They have 0 imagination
Where do you think all the pig seething came from?
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>>483301182
>>483301192
>>483301502
Meat cube..currently PROCESSING!!
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>>483301630
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According to this source >>483301502 there are 17 of such meat boxes with dead russians in Vovchansk
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>>483301492
>>483301492
>>483301492
WE'RE
BEYOND
B4CK
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>>483301724
>mfw when
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Pro zigger shills will be hunted down in the future
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>>483301502
>>483301502
>>483301502
NEWEST
DEAD ZIGGER STORAGE
A P P R O V E D
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>>483301769
please refer to the post above yours for >mfw when (>>483301765)
also
>69
noiiiiice
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>>483301630
>Where do you think all the pig seething came from?
probably from the 20+ percent russian population that is muslim
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>>483301724
>>483301724
>>483301724
FEELS
GREAT
LADSS
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>>483301769
Given the direction things are headed in the west, painting a target on themselves for future witch hunts seems very ill advised.
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>>483301298
Please take care of your public figures who parrot zigger narratives, because they embolden the international ziggery.
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>>483301953
The manhaters
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>>483301769
>>483301769
>>483301769
BASED
MODERATE

ZAN THEM & GIVE THEM TO ME

15-30 ARCE PROPERTY IN SECLUDED APPALACHIA

I'LL PERSONAL RUN THE DISPOSAL UNIT
ASHES EVEN THE SKULLS CAN BE GROUND, MIXED WITH LEAVES, IT'LL CREATE MULTCH

I
CALLED
INTERNATIONAL RULE OF DIBS
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If only you knew how brown things really are
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>>483300383
>Society is abstract
Let's go to the dictionary
>a large group of people who live in the same country or area and have the same laws, traditions, etc
Saying that it's "abstract" doesn't suddenly make this phenomenon disappear.

>People should be able to defend themselves and their property without fearing the state jailing them for this. Simple as.
Yeah, fuck having order, let's turn our home cities into Chicago. Who cares if you got domed, as long as it is legal to defend yourself, innit?

>Most medical issues are people dying of crap due to old age, good luck fixing that lol.
Right, so let's pile on top of it early mortality, disabilities, emergency care and state-funded treatments for all sorts of junkies and drunks.

>For some people your kid playing in the playground near the commieblock is a public nuisance.
And?

>Fuck your fake morality
Oh shit, now i'm convinced that throwing away sum total of humanity's cultural development & reverting to niggerdom is worth being free to ingest govnyak unimpeded.
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VAN***
BEGONE
J-A-N-N-I-E-S
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>>483301514
>Having to use mass graves for your own war-dead
Holy shit, Ivan... You unironically don't have to live/die this way.

>>483301630
Unironically wondering if some of the more outlandishly horrific stuff you hear about western elites was also projection. Thinking of Adrenochrome and such.
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Meatwaving by ziggers.
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>>483302040
>Who cares if you got domed, as long as it is legal to defend yourself, innit?
Tyrone over here worrying about the real nigger shit.
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>>483302031
>46
they do be like that
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>>483302115
more like meatboxing
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ACRE***
AUTOCORRECT WITHIN
AUTOCORRECT WITHOUT

USE 18 WHEELERS
DRIVE IT INTO A GARAGE
NO ONE WILL SEE ZIGGERS BEING OFFLOADED --- APPALACHIA IS MORE THAN SECLUDED ENOUGH

HUNT DOWN
ZIGGERS
POST WAR, CLOSE YOUR HEARTS TO PITY & REMORSE
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>>483302223
>Meatboxing by Dj 3 DAY
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>>483302040
Math is pure abstraction too, btw
Doesnt make it any less impactful on the real world
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MURPHY'S LAW:
ANYTHING THAT CAN GO WRONG WILL GO WRONG
WAGNER HAS FALLEN
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>>483302031
They do be like that
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>>483302115
>>483301502
they really love to litter, don't they?
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>>483302110
>Unironically wondering if some of the more outlandishly horrific stuff you hear about western elites was also projection. Thinking of Adrenochrome and such.
I KNOW, RIGHT?
>>
Once upon a time there was a desolate country inhabitated by slaves. The country was run by an evil monkey who had risen to power by being very mean and appearing strong. The slaves were simple people who were easily tricked by the monkey and they all agreed to let the monkey rule and steal their wealth. As time passed the slaves started to think that maybe the monkey was not treating them properly. But alas, the slaves did not revolt as they had been taught for generations it is better to have a bad leader than have no leader at all. You see, the slave people had grown unable to govern themselves and would go mad if they had to take any responsibility of their own life. Thus the agreement between the slaves and the monkey continued.

Eventually the monkey got old. It viewed other nations with jealousy. For 30 years it had the slave workers dig up rocks and oil from the ground and sold it to other nations in exhange for yachts, electronics and luxury items. Life had been good for the monkey but it wanted more. "I will conquer the other nations" it thought. "Then I will have even more luxurious life!".

The monkey ordered the slaves to attack the neighbouring nation of wheat and blue sky. The war was brutal, many slaves died horribly, and the lucky ones who only lost their legs or arms had to live the rest of their lives using skateboards, sticks or empty tin cans taped together to move around. Eventually the monkey was killed by its closest friends who had lost a great deal of money when funding the monkey's war. The remaining slaves did not really care. They continued their miserable lives under the new regime. The war was finally over after 1 million dead slaves and many more injured. The slave nation continued its sad existence in total poverty while nations of humans were happy to continue their lives free from the evil monkey king... at least for now..
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>>483302115
>>483302115
>>483302115
THEY
NEVER LEARN
BELGOROD IS NEXT
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>>483302299
>later that day:
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>>483302115
>17 MT-LBs
>3 tanks
>more then 100 Russians Paratrooper
hmmmmmm fresh vatnik meat
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>>483302115
>Meatwaving by ziggers.
They do be like that
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>>483302384
>>483302384
>>483302384
K E K
E K S
K E K
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>>483302350
>>483302110
Well considering which city specifically these astrakhanazis in the west came from, there are some connections to be made.
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>>483300372
So any news about how bad this winter gonna be?
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>>483302408
>>483302408
>>483302408
ANOTHER ELITE
SUPER SPECIAL MILITARY OPERATION
BY THE V D V

V D V
D V
ZZZ zzz ZZZ zzz ZZZ zzz
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>>483300503
Noice
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>>483302408
wtf
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>>483302384
Accurately put
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>>483302115
>>483302408
>100 VDV dead
OH NO NO NO NOT LIKE THIS ZISTERS!
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>>483300503
Holy kek, saved
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>>483302596
VDV s neba privet!
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>>483301724
Are the boxes cube shaped?
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>>483302728
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>>483302408
certified kekaroo moment
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>>483302527
>>483302527
>>483302527
THE
GREAT
ZIGGENING

B A D
RUSSIA IS LOSING -$300,000,000.00 PER DAY... MAJORITY OF OIL REFINERIES STRUCK HAVE BEEN HEAVILY DAMAGED // OFFLINED. LARGEST REFINERY IN OMSK IS 50% OFFLINE.

PLUS RUSSIA HAS 4x THE POPULATION TO KEEP WARM, FED, & UTILITIES ONLINE DURING WINTER

UKRAINE
WILL RECIEVE SUPPORT INFRASTRUCTURE WISE & ENERGY NEEDS WISE FROM THE WEST

RUSSIA
HAS... NORTH KOREA... IT'S JOEVER

PLUS
THEY HAVE TO KEEP SELLING MOST OIL // GAS
AT A CHEAP PRICE TO CHINA & INDIA JUST TO STAY IN THE WAR

GRIM
DARK
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>>483302833
well, he is technically right
the ruspidor troops did not leave Volchansk
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>483302833
>the results came later
INDEED THEY DID
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>>483300503
>>483300503
>>483300503
AUDIBLE
KEK
DETECTED
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>>483302384
Netflix is going to have a field day casting all the diverse and historically accurate slaves.
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>>483302944
Surely Ukies transported their corpses away?
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>>483302965
16 color elephant lol
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>>483302833
>>483302833
FREE KURSK
FREE KHARKIV
FREE KHERSON
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>>483302833
first denial
Acceptance will come later..after a couple bottles of vodka and a male prostitute
>>
KURSK IS NU ORK
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>>483303048
>>483303048
>>483303048
ZIGGERS
HAVE BEEN
REALLY UPPITY LATELY
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>>483302350
Oh fuck... and then I'm picturing that old timey picture of some rural Russian with parts of dead children tied to a tree or whatever it was...

>>483302384
I hate how leftists have kinda ruined a lot of the most direct criticisms you could make of Russian culture.

>Machismo to the point of asserting dominance with sodomy like an animal
That is very literally both a culture built around rape, and one in which the notions of masculinity have become self-destructive, yet leftists have basically ruined any ability to talk about those problems by turning them into jokes.
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>>483302833
Oh dear.
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>>483303242
>yet leftists have basically ruined any ability to talk about those problems by turning them into jokes.
how so?
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THERE'S A
NOOK LOOSE
A B O O T YA H O S E R
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>>483302408
the famous mobik reactive armor
>not so much reactive now
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4TH NUCLEAR BALLISTIC MISSILE
F-A-I-L-E-D

VERY SAD... ZIGGERS... ARE- ARE YOU OKAY???
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>>483300372
>Iran's new president condemned russia's invasion of Ukraine
wow. wasn't Iran one of their biggest buddies?
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>>483303412
>>483303412
SAVED
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L M A O
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>>483303307
Because it makes anon feel like a blue haired tranny if he mentions toxic masculinity I bet.
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>Beautifully sparkly golden shower
>WTF!!
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>>483303516
>alive
grim
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>enlist to fight for shalomov
>get turned into mincemeat by a drone
>your owner's shill calls your corpse an AI
kek!
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>>483302040
You can't point to "society" and unironically decide what's better for it. Better for whom exactly lol? Society isn't a thing in itself. Please do a few mental exercises about specific issues and how they might be viewed by different stratas of "society" and you'll instantly see that for many people they aren't really a part of the same society.

>Yeah, fuck having order, let's turn our home cities into Chicago. Who cares if you got domed, as long as it is legal to defend yourself, innit?
Instead you have order where cops would rape, rob and kill you, or protect the criminal from you. Or cucked shitfests like Germany, where cops would run to detain a person trying to help, leading to cop getting a knife in his dumb body kek. People whom unironically trust police and think they'll protect are you are mentally retarded children.

>Who cares if you got domed, as long as it is legal to defend yourself, innit?
Nobody protects you from being killed, a random fag can go and kill you for shits and giggles, no cops will run to protect your ass from that. At the very best the fag will be prosecuted later, but even that isn't guaranteed.

>Right, so let's pile on top of it early mortality, disabilities, emergency care and state-funded treatments for all sorts of junkies and drunks.
1. There shouldn't be any state-funded care for junkies and drunks. Why should be try to fix people, whom deliberate go and break themselves?
2. State-funded emergency care is a joke even in Europe lol.

>And?
I'm trying to illustrate that your viewpoint isn't based on some universal truths.

>sum total of humanity's cultural development
Was made when people weren't getting handholded into oblivion.

>reverting to niggerdom
Most countries are reverting to niggerdom, without freedoms btw, specifically because the freedoms of people there were stripped out "for the greater good" and now people can't suppress that, since even raising the topic is considered a crime.
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>>483303516
looks like a staph infection, if they were burns there'd be burned skin, that skin died and rotted like it does with an infection
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>>483303516
>>483303516
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>>483303516
THE FUCKING HOLES … it's amazing how much beating a human/orc body can take.
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>>483303572
>>483303572
BEST
TIMELINE
EVER
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>>483303631
you just know this?
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>>483303307
>how so?
Because leftists point to something in the west like, "a guy making a joke" and call that "rape culture".
Meanwhile, over in Russia, they're turn to some barely-adult conscript and say, "You failed the unit. The punishment is rape.", and that's not even considered a crime.

Likewise, leftists turn to literally just ANY instance of men being men and call it "toxic masculinity", and that makes it more difficult to talk about this "Russian masculinity" that says, "You NEED to die in a trench to prove you're a man."
You don't have to be a leftists to see that as poisonous, yet leftists have just fucked up the language with all their whining...
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IT'S ANUDDAH SHOAH
IT'S ANUDDAH SHEOL
IT'S ANUDDAH BABYLON

SEND
IN
THE NEXT WAVE
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>>483303078
>flag
a fine addition to my collection
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>>483300552
So many pro-dictator talkers always confuse the Reality of what is going on in a regime, to what the regime wants to be change and going on. Commies hated how USSR-tards drank and loved to drink and drink and drink. So they had huge campaigns to try to reduce alcoholism to really no effect at all.
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>>483303869
>>483303869
THE
INFIGHTING
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>>483303869
Just gulaghomo things
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Yep that's me moment. Direct hit in the face
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>>483303592
>Or cucked shitfests like Germany, where cops would run to detain a person trying to help, leading to cop getting a knife in his dumb body kek.
well at least they're not corrupt like in your shithole.

>>483303751
you don't fix that by refusing to engage at all and not talking about 'toxic' fucked up masculinity and thus ceding that territory. just talk about these topics with common sense, so that there's no monopoly on discourse.
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>>483303941
>>483303941
CERTIFIED
90 IQ
MOMENT...
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>>483304017
Y U P
THAT'S Z
>> YOU MAY BE WONDERING, HOW I ENDED UP IN THIS PREDICAMENT
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>>483304111
kek
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>>483303516
>>483304111
imagine the smell
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>>483304154
>>483304154
>>483304154
OHH
NOE NOE NOE
NONONONONONO
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>>483304111
lmao
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>>483304019
>you don't fix that by refusing to engage at all and not talking about 'toxic' fucked up masculinity and thus ceding that territory. just talk about these topics with common sense, so that there's no monopoly on discourse.
That's debatable. When you agree to debate their shit as is, you acknowledge their delusional points as is, at least that's how it's viewed by others.
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>>483302728
Well, that's a nightmare.
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>>483304111
Lol but fuck you this wound is disgusting
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>>483304111
Checked and keked
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>>483304111
>>483304111
>>483304111
O H
M E I N
G O T T T
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>>483303078
>Acceptance will come later..after a couple bottles of vodka and a male prostitute
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>>483304111
GIRKIN!!
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>>483300372
So the USA really cucked and don't allow Ukrainians to decide by themselves where to strike, lol.
What pussies.
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>>483304362
>What pussies
Yep, meanwhile we run missile defense in jets for the yids
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>>483304362
>>483304362
>>483304362
UKRAINE HAS IT'S BALLISTIC MISSILES // DRONES IN MASS PRODUCTION

RUSSIA WILL BE STRUCK
IRREGARDLESS NOW OF BIDEN // D.C.
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>>483303516
kek, gnarly
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>>483304473
>>483304473
EVEN
GOD'S CREATURES
ARE FIGHTING BACK
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>>483304362
That's been the policy for 2.5 years.
The news will be when that changes, Ivan.

Are you regretting your little Kharkiv "buffer" yet?
Cuz you tried to use the border as a safe haven, and that's what loosened the restrictions leading to Kursk.

You're always shooting yourself in the foot trying to be a "clever" shithead.
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>>483304270
delusional points? i think the idea that masculinity can be used as justification for harmful shit isn't exactly delusional. i know a few guys who'd never visit a doctor for anything but a missing limb because they see that as wimpy and unmanly. many of them now have health problems that could've easily been avoided if they hadn't been such retards and didn't see the need to act so masculine.
that's what common sense 'toxic masculinity' is, not some boy getting told to act brave and take responsibility - that's good masculinity.
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>>483304483
>>483304483
>>483304483
THE MIDDLE EAST
DOESN'T HAVE NUKES & IS A SHITHOLE

92-96 IQ IZZIES VS. 80 IQ INBRED MUZZIES, OHH NOES
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>>483304574
no shit, imagine dealing with russian bullshit for centuries
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>>483304574
>The only country more miserable than Russia is the country targeted by Russian aggression
You are literally making the argument for why Russia needs to be dismantled.
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VIOLENCE ISN'T THE ANSWER, IT'S A QUESTION.
THE ANSWER:
YES

+ HUNTER
+ TURNER DIARIES
+ SERPENT'S WALK

+ THE BRIGADE
+ A MIGHTY FORTRESS
+ FREEDOM'S SONS

+ FAME OF A DEAD MAN'S DEEDS
+ ADL: 100 YEARS OF HATE // 200 YEARS TOGETHER [JQ]
+ HITLER'S WAR

+ THIS TIME THE WORLD // WHITE POWER
+ SN33D BY: JAMES MASON
+ IMPERIUM BY FRANCIS PARKER YOCKEY

+ INSIDE ALLIED HIGH COMMAND: WAR BETWEEN THE GENERALS
+ COSMOTHEISM TRILOGY
+ MARCH OF THE TITANS

ASHA LOGOS
ZOOMER HISTORIAN
www.AlexLinder.com/Audio
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>>483304362
Literally Jake "the cuck" Sullivan
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HISTORY OF THE SCHUTZSTAFFEL:https://youtu.be/E_5rRVkfHz0?si=8Mg-zNK-28NvOZYa

THE NIGHT OF THE LONG KNIVES:https://youtu.be/x8PfTwLiYQE?si=AbHuJMw6YsIZJcGt

OUTBREAK OF WWII:https://youtu.be/j9umwEhi7sI?si=iv7FATOiI5DsPF6Z [P-O-L-A-N-D]
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>>483304362
US always had a weird relation with Russia. Bush sr. went to Ukraine and basically told them not to separate from the Soviet Union.
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>>483303869
>>483303964
nothing new really, it's been happening for decades.
chechens are miserable incapable tiktok fighters, but they're very good at ganging up and torturing lone mobiks.
in russian army you get raped and beaten by either your superiors, the seniors or chechens
https://files.catbox.moe/ro364y.mp4
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>>483304583
>i think the idea that masculinity can be used as justification for harmful shit isn't exactly delusional.
Harmful shit is harmful by itself, not because it's "masculine". Masculinity has nothing to do with leftist delusions. What those closeted commies do is trying to hijack the language and dismantle normal gender roles, families, etc. Because all that is antagonistic to their leftist crap.
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>>483304760
>>483304760
>>483304760
THIS
SO
MUCH

IF WAS IN CHARGE UKRAINE WOULD'VE ALREASY HAD HELLFIRE, AN ADDITIONAL 200-500 CHADLEYS, & DOUBLE THE ATACMS WE SENT.

SADLY, LIKE WASHINGTON
IAM 2ND CLASS GENTRY, IN THE BACKGROUND

MOST OF OUR CONGRESS AS WELL
ARE SENILE MEN
AVERAGE AGE IS 64... VERY GRIM
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>>483304928
>>483304928
SAD
AIN'T
IT
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>>483304928
>in russian army you get raped and beaten by your superiors, the seniors and chechens
Fixed next time don't erase russian culture
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ALREADY***

A SHAME
MY GOVERNMENT REMINDS ME OF 1991 RUSSIA... SENILITY // DELUSIONAL
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>>483304583
>i know a few guys who'd never visit a doctor for anything but a missing limb because they see that as wimpy and unmanly. many of them now have health problems that could've easily been avoided if they hadn't been such retards and didn't see the need to act so masculine.
My brown friend, they aren't doing that because some manly man told them to act this way, but because their own mothers, sisters, teachers and other _women_ around them, especially during their formative years, invalidated their feelings and rights to feel a specific way. And now those same women, usually with blue or purple hair, tell them that behaving like a man is bad and being a man is bad by definition.

>that's good masculinity
Leftists would say that there's no such thing
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>>483305078
>>483305078
>>483305078
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>>483303592
>You can't point to "society" and unironically decide what's better for it.
Firstly, i mentioned society in the context of individual's choices affecting others, even if indirectly.
Secondly, yes, i absolutely can, just not unilaterally.

>People whom unironically trust police and think they'll protect are you are mentally retarded children.
Nigga r u high? How does pointing out that legal ability to defend yourself isn't a solution to turning environment into a warzone implies trust for cops or disapproval of robust self-defense laws? It's like you're arguing in favor of Cyberpunk 2077 treatment, where rampant crime is suggested to be fought by citizens arming themselves to the teeth.

>Nobody protects you from being killed, a random fag can go and kill you for shits and giggles, no cops will run to protect your ass from that. At the very best the fag will be prosecuted later, but even that isn't guaranteed.
Yet threat of punishment is enough to deter majority from from going full niggermode.

>1. There shouldn't be any state-funded care for junkies and drunks.
Sort of agree, but so far they are entitled to aid. Then again, there's a good example of NY zombie apocalypse showcasing what neglect leads to.

>2. State-funded emergency care is a joke even in Europe lol.
So it makes sense to allow junkies to eat into already limited resources?

>I'm trying to illustrate that your viewpoint isn't based on some universal truths.
Never claimed that. One thing being a nuisance doesn't mean there should be a two annoying things, tho.

>Was made when people weren't getting handholded into oblivion.
Yet handholding and nanny state is the result.

>Most countries are reverting to niggerdom, without freedoms btw, specifically because the freedoms of people there were stripped out "for the greater good" and now people can't suppress that, since even raising the topic is considered a crime.
THAT is highly debatable.
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>>483304316
What does this joke mean?
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>>483305177
>their own mothers, sisters, teachers and other _women_ around them, especially during their formative years, invalidated their feelings
Yeah, you're a retard. If you try to take such a huge cultural problem caused by EVERYBODY and pick out a scapegoat, you're not going to solve the problem, you're just gonna fight with your unwilling scapegoat.
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WE
LIVE
WITHIN A SOCIETY
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>>483304710
anon, por favor, check ID before making assumptions.
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>>483305268
Saving the white race with one kiss at time.
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>>483305328
>can't understand wordless memes
Npc kek
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>>483305328
>>483305328
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>>483305268
Oh shit, so not only did he kiss that Koran, but he did it to commemorate a NEW MOSQUE, named after THE MUSLIM NAME FOR CHRIST.

WEW LAD

>>483305470
Looking at >>483301342 I think my tone was appropriate.
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Mudslime churka discovered ai
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>>483304111
Holy christ..
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U H H
O H H
S O C I E T Y
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>>483305622
Yeah, that's been for a while. /chip/ has been using it to make pictures of waifus that would be horrifying to actual fundie Muslims in-region.
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>>483305556
>russians are chinks?
>>483305547
Y so mad zigzog?
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>>483305601
Thanks for the (you) kind redditor
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>>483305238
>i mentioned society in the context of individual's choices affecting others, even if indirectly.
You being affected by others doesn't mean that those others should behave differently and you should have power over them. They don't owe you shit.

>Secondly, yes, i absolutely can
Then you're a delusional collectivist, simple as. At the very best you can think of what would be good for specific stratas of people, not society overall.

>How does pointing out that legal ability to defend yourself isn't a solution to turning environment into a warzone implies trust for cops or disapproval of robust self-defense laws?
Because the main argument against normal self-defense laws and access to weapons for regular people is "hurr-durr cops protect me" (no, they don't, even in normal™ countries) and "only trained professional should access to those weapons" (cops are one of the most retarded fucks when it comes to using weapons lol).

>It's like you're arguing in favor of Cyberpunk 2077 treatment, where rampant crime is suggested to be fought by citizens arming themselves to the teeth.
You do realize it's fiction, right? Crime isn't caused by people wanting to protect themselves. Crime is caused by having people willing to do it and not being repressed when they do shit. You could and should formulate a society where people wouldn't be so eager to rob, kill and rape each other, but stripping away the ability of people to defend themselves is definitely not the way to do so.

>Yet threat of punishment is enough to deter majority from from going full niggermode.
Nope, there's no threat of punishment. It's a myth. The overwhelming majority of crimes go unpunished even in countries with functional police systems. Many crimes don't even get reported, don't get processed and definitely don't go to court. I'd love to live under the rock where you live as to not know this.

People don't go full on niggermode because, to your surprise, most of them aren't bad people.
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>>483305347
ooof white phosphorus
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>>483305770
>>483305770
>>483305770
WHAT DID YOU
JUSY SAY
ABOUT MY FINNGOLIAN THROAT SINGING FORUM
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>>483305861
>>483305861
ZIGGERS
NEVER RECOVERED
FROM APRIL 20TH, 2024
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>>483305884
Thanks for the (you)
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>>483304932
you're not saying anything meaningful. of course harmful shit is harmful by itself. that's just an empty tautology. and you didn't get the meaning of my point at all. i never said masculinity itself was inherently bad or good. i said it is used as justification. that says nothing about any qualities that masculinity has, it only says something about how it is used.
>>483305177
>Leftists would say that there's no such thing
some probably would, others wouldn't. do you have your head so far up your ass you only see them as one singular person?
>My brown friend
very pathetic cope.
>they aren't doing that because some manly man told them to act this way
some are. there are some very fucking dumb men (you apparently are one) just like there are some very dumb fucking women.
>And now those same women, usually with blue or purple hair, tell them that behaving like a man is bad and being a man is bad by definition.
i see, you're unable to think of the world except in a cartoonish culture war type of way. that is even more pathetic. useless to talk further.
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>>483305983
>>483305983
I
HEARD
R E D D 1 T
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>>483305805
>You being affected by others doesn't mean that those others should behave differently and you should have power over them.
This form of "freedom" defaults to might-makes-right.

Its better to have a government with a monopoly on force rather than just having every person subject to the whims of the strongest nearby asshole.

>>483305861
What? Its an ATACMS cluster bomb taking out Russian air defense.

>>483305989
>Lack Sea Fleet
Kek
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>>483305347
There were s400 weren't they?
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>>483304906
also during the early 90s when monkin was deputy major of pidorsburg siphoning off US food dollars, the americans noticed that despite everything else in russia crumbling and being restructured, the intelligence service apparatus remained in working order.
instead of gutting them they decided to stand down while monke stole more than $100 million of food aid dollars that were exchanged for natural resources and were supposed to feed russian serfs.
the best monke could muster from these hundred millions are a couple of trains transporting cooking oil kek.
also later once putin stepped into the limelight and was expected to take over the reigns from that drunkard retard yeltsin, americans encouraged it since they expected him to be a firm but fair leader that could keep the russian state in order and be a realiable partner, instead of becoming a revanchist glownigger trying to reconstruct the sovshit union.
in american eyes the russia is simply too big too fail, too risky to have it collapse and have its huge nuclear arsenal be strewn all over the place by thugs and fanatical terrorists.
there've been several cases of nuclear material being stored in an abandoned warehouse in a former soviet republic and nobody knowing about it for years. US glowies really had their hands full keeping watch on russia and its former vassals, lest some rogue groups lash out and detonate a nuke like they did in many of the polit-thriller novels and movies of the 90s
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>>483305347
TUNGSTEN RAIN!!
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>>483306045
>>483306045
>>483306045
THE
FIRE
R I S E S
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>>483306066
>>483306066
K E Y
W O R D:
W3R3
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>>483306212
>>483306212
>>483306212
WHITE
POWDER
>> K E KKK
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>>483306044
Imagine the smellfgyj
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HAIL
VICTORY
OR VALHALLA

B L O O D
H O N O R
S O I L
ᛟᛉᛋ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNuw42EQsnE
A Z O V --- MADE IN UKRAINE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmYYQH8PaGE
KOST GORDIYENKO [620k]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6_cYS_qwcA [620K]
卐 RUSSIA'S WORST NIGHTMARE ᛏ

HAIL AZOV
HAIL KRAKEN
HAIL AFU

WE
WILL
TRIUMPH
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>>483306216
Y'know, people speak with pity about Russian tank forces exploding all the time and whatnot, but it really is one of the kindest deaths in this war...

>>483306418
>Going back to the "ur all trannies" chestnut
Reminder that this would mean you've been held off by trannies for all this time.

The length of your war has made this insult into a self-own.
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>>483305989
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>>483306576
AGREED
INDUBITABLY SO
AN INSTANT DEATH
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>>483301189
Had crappy monster nitro
Only 160mg caffeine
But 51g suger....
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>>483305238
>but so far they are entitled to aid
Which is a broken concept altogether, because it's not like they can actually receive that shit which they are entitled to. Which just devalues laws and insitutions. You shouldn't create abstract bullshit feel good laws which can't function for objective reasons and they point to that and say "but they are entitled".

>So it makes sense to allow junkies to eat into already limited resources?
My main point is that it's a bad example, there's nothing to "eat into" already lol.

>Yet handholding and nanny state is the result.
Nanny state is a results of two things: deliberate political shit to atomize and infantilize people to control them more easily, as well as having a ton of naive delusional retards whom routinely get sold that "feel good" bullshit.

>THAT is highly debatable.
Not really. Check Sweden for example, back during 70s - 90s it was a pretty safe high-trust society. Olof Palme, the PM at the time, literally was killed because he walking home from the cinema, just like that, like a regular person, which would be impossible for the majority of countries today to happen at all. These days they're a hotbed of rape and street crime, with literal no go zones and sharia patrols. Don't get me started on UK (I know how some families literally returned to Ukraine from UK, because of how bad shit was with browns there) with decade long rape gangs being covered by police for political reasons. Germany literally got double tapped with the self-inflicted "refugee crisis" in 2015. France? It's also fucked. You have countries like Belgium which boast how they close down prisons because "there's no one to jail anymore", while 300 meters from the government buildings people are routinely robbed at knife point during the day or raped in the closest alley —shit which is unimaginable in Ukraine.
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>>483306671
51 gram of sugar? What the fuck anon??

Are you planning to nap immediately after ingesting it?
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>>483306576
Thanks for so many upvootes
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>>483306816
Its no problem, Ivan. The more you lie, the more chances humans have to reveal Russians as lying animals.

Its all part of the process of finally being rid of you.
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GOODNIGHT
NORTH KOREAN MISSILE // ARTILLERY STOCKPILE
THREE MONTHS OF AMMUNITION... OBLITERATED
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>>483305578
It's not mine alone opinion. Even this anon >>483305347
posts how west barely gives scraps. I have seen many Ukrainian flags agree.
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>>483305343
>caused by EVERYBODY
You're just trying to dilute responsibility, hurr-durr everybody as fault. Bitch please, if everybody is fault, then nobody is. Yes, that's how it works.
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>>483303516
mmm i should not put my dick in there
HOWEVER
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>>483306816
>>483306816
WE
DESERVE
BETTER PSYOPS
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>>483300601
Tendie time!
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>>483306928
the boys are melting
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>>483307021
Doesn't matter, Ivan.
"US doesn't want Ukraine to win" is a Russian lie that they tell to make Ukrainians feel like tools rather than jr. allies.

We are NOT like Russia, no matter how you animals insist.
Ukraine's defiance of various requests we've made has proven their independence to any honest person.
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>>483306411
The funniest thing is that he is from russia
RVC commander
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>>483307188
ASS
IS WITHIN
ASS
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>>483306998
Thanks
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>>483307103
>The problem is the culture of an entire country
>This idiot says it CAN'T be everybody's fault because "That would mean I don't have anybody specific to blame!"
Yes, its terribly inconsiderate for reality to not provide you with a single cause for all effects. What was it thinking, really?
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>>483305805
>You being affected by others doesn't mean that those others should behave differently
They absolutely should, as per the law and customs. Else there would be endless conflicts and we would still arrive at the point where there is a line on the sand delimiting rights & interests, mine and theirs. You're basically trying to abolish the wheel so that it has to be invented again, so to speak.

>Then you're a delusional collectivist, simple as.
As opposed to you being moronic ancap?

>Because the main argument against normal self-defense laws and access to weapons for regular people is "hurr-durr cops protect me" (no, they don't, even in normal™ countries) and "only trained professional should access to those weapons" (cops are one of the most retarded fucks when it comes to using weapons lol).
In other words, you concede that i said none of those things and haven't argued against self-defense being made available to common people.

>Crime is caused by having people willing to do it and not being repressed when they do shit.
Which is a weird thing to say after arguing that crime shouldn't be repressed/repression being limited to individual citizens. Which is why i mentioned CP77 as an example of how ridiculous your stance is. Dystopian, even.

>Nope, there's no threat of punishment. It's a myth. The overwhelming majority of crimes go unpunished even in countries with functional police systems. Many crimes don't even get reported, don't get processed and definitely don't go to court.
It's up there with feminists claiming that most rapes go unreported and un-prosecuted. Which, of course, begs the question of how they got this information if it is neither reported, nor verified.

>People don't go full on niggermode because, to your surprise, most of them aren't bad people.
Problem is, you argue that everyone should be a nigger/Karen hybrid.
Also, minority of niggers have potency of inflicting significant harm. One of the biggest example is our collaborators.
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>>483307251
>>483307251
>>483307251
VERY
BASED

ANY RUSSIANS THAT WISH TO FIGHT PUCCIA ARE ALWAYS WELCOME

RACIALLY AWARE RUSSIANS
& FREEDOM FIGHTERS
WE SUPPORT YOU

https://youtu.be/iY-HOYqdltc?si=lLmHaiHOibuG-2Qj
https://youtu.be/1TEl0MS9luA?si=Xlfg7cXALJWjsaMl
https://youtu.be/F3LUbEs5hx8?si=BjHJKEuiL17NbUGa

YOU'RE
NEVER
ALONE
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>>483307355
>JH1hd - Jihad
What did Allah mean by this ?
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AS
DR. PIERCE STATED
WE ARE IN EVERY NATION
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>>483307221
>Doesn't matter, Ivan.
Hi boomer
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>>483306016
>i never said masculinity itself was inherently bad or good
You're defending a point of people who do in fact say that.

>i said it is used as justification.
Anything was, is and will be used as BS justification for random political BS. Breaking news at 11.

>some probably would, others wouldn't. do you have your head so far up your ass you only see them as one singular person?
That ideology is deeply inhumane and corrosive, I know that because I was born in it, you're on the other hand a naive and sheltered retard.

>very pathetic cope.
Hit too close to home?

>some are
That's the point, even if some man would say that shit to them, they'd initially would get that from a woman kek. Because that's how it works. It's being used to manipulate retards from early age, some grow out of it, others then go and pass down those manipulative talking points to their own children.

>you're unable to think of the world except in a cartoonish culture war type of way
Nigger please, I've see those whores even in Ukraine, better yet now during the war they somehow have the nerve to continue their "men bad" spiel while not being subjected to even 10% of shit men have to deal with.
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FOR THE RECORD I LOVE RUSSIA

MY PLAN A.
WAS TO MERGE RUSSIA INTO EVROPA

KING NIGGER OBAMA & JEWUSH PUCCIA RUINED THAT IN 2014

ALWAYS HAVE A PLAN B. & C.
NEVER MESS WITH A MAN'S DREAMS
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Burn ziggers BURN!!
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>>483307714
>MERGE RUSSIA INTO EVROPA
>KING NIGGER OBAMA & JEWUSH PUCCIA RUINED THAT IN 2014
Obama confirmed for savior of the white race???
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NOW
IF I HAVE TO COLLAPSE RUSSIA TO SAVE IT
SO BE IT... SEW... A NEEDLE PULLING THREAD
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>>483306045
>This form of "freedom" defaults to might-makes-right.
On the contrary, when defense if available to pretty much anyone, the might portion suddenly gets devalued.

>every person subject to the whims of the strongest nearby asshole.
My nigger in christ, God created men, and Sam Colt made 'em equal. The strongest part stops working when defense tools become available.

>Its better to have a government with a monopoly
A-ha-ha-ha-ha oh wow. How do you live on this earth for any significant amount of time, time and time again seeing how shit government is with anything it does, and seeing how shit any monopoly is, and coming to a conclusion that sounds like "Its better to have a government with a monopoly"?
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>>483307950
>when defense if available to pretty much anyone
And how are you gonna do that? Welfare guns?

>>483307950
>How do you live on this earth
>and coming to a conclusion that sounds like "Its better to have a government with a monopoly"?
They key is the word "better".

Everything that you're saying about government is a totally valid argument that they're not GOOD.
But when you compare them to the ACTUAL DYNAMICS that develop in their absence (read: NOT the way libertarians think it goes), then you realize that its not about "good", its about "better". And yes, government is better.
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>tfw russia is lacking victories/good news so much that /chug/ uses again the "what are gets" as op image for the 3rd or whatever time again
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>>483306045
No, having an imbalance in military powers devolves the world in "might makes right".
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>>483308454
>having an imbalance in military powers devolves the world in "might makes right".
So you want to implement "communism of force"?

What's the argument here?
You can't make people equal in power any more than you can make them equal in wealth.
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>>483301189
Just finished a large Americano with some brown sugar in.
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>>483306679
>Which is a broken concept altogether, because it's not like they can actually receive that shit which they are entitled to. Which just devalues laws and insitutions. You shouldn't create abstract bullshit feel good laws which can't function for objective reasons and they point to that and say "but they are entitled".
I agree, but reality of the matter is that they are entitled for aid, this circumstance affects both you and me, and it is but one example of how people's actions affect others, thus making claim "nunya biz" a false one.

>Nanny state is a results of two things: deliberate political shit to atomize and infantilize people to control them more easily, as well as having a ton of naive delusional retards whom routinely get sold that "feel good" bullshit.
... which in no way discounts point about this state of affairs being ultimate result of no-handholding-era of development.

>Not really.
That shit can be neatly explained by corruption, biz-gov collusion and excess. Last bit is precisely the reason why similar shit won't fly here.
Isn't really the case of some spontaneous regression into niggerdom.
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>>483308442
There coping with Vulhedar a bit to hard too . A city that has held for years when it should have fallen in a week . The site of the biggest armored column deaths . The troops that are getting surrounded is pretty bad ngl but nothing ever goes to plan .
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>>483308605
>sugar in coffee
Lmao, euros really are a bunch of faggots.
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>>483308659
Not subtle enough try harder .
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Why are Ukrainians so incompetent?
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TZD is non negotiable
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>>483309013
>Loosing armored columns to such incompetence
Grim
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>>483308442
The backwards advance of Vovchansk really broke them.
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>>483307600
>You're defending a point of people who do in fact say that.
i wasn't. re-read >>483304019
>Hit too close to home?
like i said to another retard: i can trace back my german ancestry to the 1500s. you're a massive fucking idiot. calling random posters you disagree with brown might be the cool thing nowadays on /pol/, but it's just about the dumbest fucking thing to come out of this site.
>That ideology is deeply inhumane and corrosive, I know that because I was born in it, you're on the other hand a naive and sheltered retard.
lel lmao ahahaha.
i've read the ideology, i've talked with leftists. and nazis. and everything in-between. you just have no fucking nuance. what does "leftist" even mean to you? neolib progressive? commie tankies? authoritarian stalinists? socdems? left-anarchists? you dumb fucking nigger, all of these have massively different ideas about cultural values.
i've seen the worst fucking people from the right and the left, all using their ideology to justify their bullshit. if anyone is sheltered here, it's you.
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>>483308762
Haha, I usually don't put sugar in my coffee, and I regret putting it in the last one for now I feel like shit.
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>US officials thought the 'victory plan' was retarded

Join us Volodymyr
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>>483307950
>On the contrary, when defense if available to pretty much anyone, the might portion suddenly gets devalued.
Nonsense, most of the people are pretty far down on the food chain. It would serve to empower those who have might versus those who do not, that is majority of population.

>The strongest part stops working when defense tools become available.
Disparity in tools and fitness to use the tools disproves that. Your average Petrovich with Makarov isn't a match for some gang which is anywhere from being more numerous to wielding full-auto rifles AND being deranged.
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>>483300372
TZD
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>>483308582
Let's look at practical examples.
Israel in the middle east has the upper hand militarily and look at all the atrocities they're committing.
Let's look at another example? Both USA and very strong and both are afraid of each other, now hwo many died in chinese american wars?
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>>483307338
My brown friend, if "everyone does it", then it's a variant of the norm and thus they aren't fault.
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>>483310510
You're describing the law of the jungle, thankfully we live in the 21st century where "everyone does it" isn't a valid excuse.
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>>483309899
You're avoiding the real problem.

Its not enough to say, "Boy it would be nice if things were this way."
It doesn't change the fact that "imposed equality of force" is just as impractical as communism's "imposed economic equality".

Plans like that always require supreme authorities to enforce them, and those authorities are as subject to corruption as anyone else.
This is a logical paradox that goes deeper than, "Oh we just need the right people and principles", because it undermines all that.
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What are current numbers? It's been a while since I looked into the war
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>>483310738
If both sides are aptly armed they're less likely to start massacres.
If one side is disproportionally stronger things aren't going to be good.
If ukraine had nukes, russia wouldn't have invaded.
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>>483310968
>If ukraine had nukes, russia wouldn't have invaded.
Then you don't know pidors very well, they thrive on this shit. Not only did they have decades worth of preparations via soviet policies of ethnic replacement + selection of loyal cadres, but also simple fact of knowledge that our leadership would rather pussy out than commit to nuclear exchange, rendering nukes a non-issue.
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>>483311180
I don't really think russia would have risked nuclear exchange for a bit of land. That's why they only invaded ukraine but don't dare to touch any of the baltic countires.
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>>483307346
>They absolutely should, as per the law and customs
Laws and customs are flexible and not universal. Nobody is obliged to break their back backwards to accommodate you and your wants and needs. You could instead come to some sort of understanding with people, if you and they are both for it thought.

You remind me as one of those retards whom buy an shitty apartment and then are ass blasted that they can hear their neighbors walk, eat, shower, fuck, use the washing machine and so on, so they sperg out and run around demanding quietness from everybody, literally living an a concrete drum which makes sounds due to thermal deformation each night.

>As opposed to you being moronic ancap?
How old are you? I'm not sure how you can be a retarded collectivist in a post-soviet country.

>haven't argued against self-defense being made available to common people
You did though.

>Which is a weird thing to say after arguing that crime shouldn't be repressed/repression being limited to individual citizens.
I'm not sure what sort of text parsing issues you have, but the modern societies struggle with the fact that they are fucked by the state in threesome:
1. individual people are disarmed both physically and by law from being able to protect themselves, with caricature cases of girls being fined for using a pepper spray on a guy whom tried to rape them;
2. while at the same time not really prosecuting the criminals from the state's side of things;

Thus, under some feel good bullshit talking points, criminals are elevated above normal law-abiding citizens, which is IMO unforgivable.

>It's up there with feminists claiming that most rapes go unreported and un-prosecuted.
Which is true, but not from the side the feminists think. Sexual harassment and violence towards men is literally denied as thing which exists, in many countries laws literally deny on male rape as being possible. Cops won't even process such a report lol.
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>>483310968
>If ukraine had nukes
Yeah... except notice how your logic necessarily escalates to the big world-ending weapons. (necessarily because that's how the game theory will always play out)

I'd be willing to bet that Putin isn't going to commit nuclear suicide, BUT I'd rather not make that bet every day with every dictator for the rest of time, with the stakes being human extinction.
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>>483311180

how long until the russnigger tank fleet is depleted enough to no longer maintain tank column assaults?
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>>483310181
Joe American is very right sirs, fuck the Ukraine we don't want tax dollars go there, in our village in Ohio everyone I know is voting for Trump to stop feeding nazi zelensky and stop war
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>>483311441
You're an old guy who lived through the cold war right? I haven't lived through the nuclear scare so maybe that's why we have different opinions.
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>>483311458
I am eagerly awaiting the disappearance of the T-72 off the battlefield, but they still have some to cannibalize and reactivate
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>>483311458
>tank column assaults
those are long gone. last one was what, 3 tanks? kek
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>>483311458
>>483311627
Yeah, these days the assaults usually consist of like 4-6 bmps and 1-2 tanks
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>>483307346
>Which, of course, begs the question of how they got this information if it is neither reported, nor verified.
You can get a ton of information, which never got any official movement. There's a big difference between state provided information and reality. For example, in our Fatherland of Ukraine official unemployment number historically were (probably still are) only including people whom had to go through the official channels to apply to the employment board, which is the overwhelming minority of people whom are actually unemployed. Because why bother wasting time and effort with shitty degenerate bureaucracy which won't help you? Might as well use that on finding another job instead. Hence you have good official number, but totally different reality. It's similar with crimes happening. Have you ever tried to get cops involved with a crime that happened? Good luck lol.
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>>483311534
You forgot to use your VPN. Also, Ohioans don't talk like that at all.
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>>483307346
>Problem is, you argue that everyone should be a nigger/Karen hybrid.
You're advocating for a Karen mode actually: hurr-durr you're obliged to do X for me and/or provide Y for me, because those are my rights, I'm society, hurr-durr.

>minority of niggers have potency of inflicting significant harm.
They only reason they are able to do shit is because the majority is defanged by the state. When the majority has access to the necessary tools, no minority is able to cause shit, because it would get steamrolled into the ground. I'm not sure how you can give that point and not see how it actually contradicts your shit.
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>>483311579

they still got t-64 and t-55 tanks..
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>>483312013
No shit. But I love zigger excuses about them.
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>>483311904
You forgot your sarcasm detector at work
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>>483308412
>And how are you gonna do that? Welfare guns?
Look at your flag again, my brown friend. Guns are available to virtually anyone in the US.

>But when you compare them to the ACTUAL DYNAMICS that develop in their absence
My brown friend, your country is what was create by kicking out the british state monopoly on violence kek.
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>>483311904
You must be German
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>>483308646
>Last bit is precisely the reason why similar shit won't fly here.
I hope you're right, but I don't really think so. The point is destructing culture, high-trust societies and all that, because the state sees that as the enemy.
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>>483312251
After the war how will gun control be implemented by your government? Aren't there a lot of weapons in circulation in ukraine?
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>>483300372
Nigger
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>>483309319
>calling random posters you disagree with brown might be the cool thing nowadays on /pol/,
Nah, it's just that for the last decade most of internet got brownified, including /pol/, including specifically western countries. So more often than not you can be sure that the person on the other end isn't actually of european descent.

>you just have no fucking nuance.
Sorry, but I don't care about yet another bristol stool chart in leftism.
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>>483300372
i don't follow this war much, can someone tell me what lands exactly does russia want from ukraine and how big are they? would appreciate it if they are highlighted
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>>483311397
>I don't really think russia would have risked nuclear exchange for a bit of land.
Control over entirety of Ukraine isn't really "a bit of land" and, as iv'e said, they knew who would pussy out. Deterrence is only as good as certainty of retaliation.
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>3 hours have passed
>STILL in the same thread
GRIM comrades, I am seriously the comrade Jesus Christ of this godforsaken general.
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>>483312677
>Sorry, but I don't care about yet another bristol stool chart in leftism
if you weren't a retard, you'd seek to learn more about the world. alas. you'd rather not challenge your strongly held opinions.
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>>483312725
But your government even under the idiot zelensky didn't pussy out, that's why ukraine is still holding donbass to this day.
Having nukes ought to give them more confidence and make russia more cautious.
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>>483300762
i hate this pidor, why zelensky's party picked people like him to go into politics i will never know, it must have been too early to tell back then.

You really have to kill the ziggers asap, the strat of prostrating yourself before putin to satisfy him is a shit strat, you end up having nothing to defend yourselves with, a giant useless police force that's only good at beating down it's own people and a huge russian oligarchy, as soon as such a retarded system inevitably collapses under it's own retardation Putin will call it a cia coup and start bombing everyone indiscriminately.
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>>483312781
That image is completely cursed, delet now.
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>>483312693
All the lands. Generally it's less about that and more about getting rid of independent Ukraine. Monke wouldn't mind a Belarus situation without direct control.
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>>483312978
but what is his "official" goal?
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>>483313025
the official reason is to solve Ukraine's problems which like removing their army and politicians. the real reason is land grabbing
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>>483313025
To reestablish the USSR. That means he needs Russia, Belarus and Ukraine to do so
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>>483313025
Denazification and demilitarisation of Ukraine. Oh and saving the fake republics he occupied in 2014 but nobody seems to bother pretending are independent anymore.
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>>483309421
Sorry, but you're delusional. One of the main reasons niggers (broadly speaking) chimp out is because they are sure they won't get their shit pushed in in response. This starts from young, with systems such as school never punishing the aggressor, but only always punishing the person trying to defend themselves. Then it permeates through society, that you shouldn't resist, you should just endure, with a million of reasons why it's the correct options and all that. And those whom protect themselves will actually be prosecuted by the cops, but not actual criminals doing shit. This is deliberate state policy. The moment even 10% of randoms have a change to acquire guns your typical nigger is suddenly is put into way more sketching of a situation in terms of risk vs reward. Previously there were more or less no risk, which makes even the smallest of rewards "good enough" for them. Now there's a chance his ass will get an additional hole in it, so maybe it's not worth it to try and rob that motherfucker.

>Disparity in tools and fitness to use the tools disproves that. Your average Petrovich with Makarov isn't a match for some gang which is anywhere from being more numerous to wielding full-auto rifles AND being deranged.
You are an autist (in a bad sense of the word), Petrovich doesn't need to be better than a gang (also, most gangs aren't proficient with anything), Petrovich needs to be good enough to make it not worth attacking him. Sure, the gang might win against him, but will Ashot from the gang be happy, when he'll get shot and killed as a result of the attack? Maybe fuck that?
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i see, so by denazify he means just install a puppet state
what a tool, thanks anons
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show yours
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Gonna do one (1) bake
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>>483311441
>BUT I'd rather not make that bet every day with every dictator for the rest of time
You already did this by cucking out against russia, norks and soon iran
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>>483312472
>After the war how will gun control be implemented by your government?
They won't improve shit. The laws are bad both on gun ownerships and self-defense. Because the mentality of police and politicians (and let's not forget a large chunk of society as well) is that "guns bad", "our people aren't evolved enough for guns" (while the cops sell gun licenses via corruption for like $10K to yet another gangster). Because the state inherently fears people (as it should), doubly so if people are armed.

>Aren't there a lot of weapons in circulation in ukraine?
There's a shit ton of them on the black market, but that doesn't make things good for regular law-abiding citizens.
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>>483312863
>But your government even under the idiot zelensky didn't pussy out
Yes, but they assumed that it wouldn't happen. They'd also assume that nukes wouldn't fly from us.

>Having nukes ought to give them more confidence and make russia more cautious.
If we had nukes in 2022, we'd be pressured by our western partners as to not to use them.
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>>483312838
I've seen, read and talked with enough leftist of various shapes and sizes that my good will for them ended long ago.
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>>483311436
>Laws and customs are flexible and not universal
So? That means they do not exist or should not be followed?

>Nobody is obliged to break their back backwards to accommodate you and your wants and needs.
Did i said anything of the sort?

>You pee pee poo poo
Shitty apartment or not, there are regulations concerning noise and time it is permitted at. Your whole line of arguments rests on disregarding that.

>How old are you? I'm not sure how you can be a retarded collectivist in a post-soviet country.
Not sure how can growing up post-ussr supposed to make you into retarded ancap, who's hell bent on being a nigger to his neighbors. It's opposite, actually, due to how unprotected individual was/is.

>You did though.
Please quote where i did that.

>while at the same time not really prosecuting the criminals from the state's side of things;
And the source cited is author's ass.

>Which is true, but not from the side the feminists think. Sexual harassment and violence towards men is literally denied as thing which exists, in many countries laws literally deny on male rape as being possible. Cops won't even process such a report lol.
Way to miss my point. You claim to have a knowledge of something that is kept secret and cannot be verified, yet see no problem with this line of reasoning.
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>>483312157
What is sarcasm?



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