Vance absolutely blew Walz the fuck out on almost every topic. I can't remember the last time a debate was so onesided. Opening: Vance wonForeign policy: Vance wonClimate change: amazingly Vance wonImmigration: Vance wonModerators: BTFOEconomy: Vance wonOff topic gotcha question: Vance didn't really win but Walz lostAbortion: amazingly Vance won, on a liberal issue, againGuns: tie, neither really got the other but neither did badEconomy part 2: Vance wonHealthcare: probably Walz, even though Vance did his best defending the "concepts of a plan" commentChildcare: Vance won, Walz even agreed with what he said lolJanuary 6th/Democracy: how the fuck did Vance win this topic?Closing: Vance won
>>483499176Vance won by a slight margin
they are best friends now
>>483499176booshouldn't cover up the winner like that
>>483499176>vance wearing the party hathe won
Finland mentioned again
Fuck off. Not political
>I became friends with school shooters
>Tampon Tim knowing full well that he completely lost
>>483499176the fact that they shook hands and wished each other well is shocking in 2024, are we gonna make it guys? they didn't even insult each other
What is the metric that these pollsters use to determine the winner?Is it just vibes? Isn't the winner subjective?
Sam Hyde is a CIA funded Freemason who fucks little boys. (Had a moment of weakness fucking Marky instead of a tranny)
Vance W
Feeling pretty whitepilled by the whole thing
>>483499176Vance's wife is so hot!
I thought it was a pretty constructive debate
>>483499176It's over
>>483499347the guy was a mess all night. no wonder his kids are a mess too.
Factcheckers are going all out right now
>>483499176Time for Trump to adVance to the white house, and fix america
these 2 sounded more presidential than their running mates. walz just kept agreeing with he started bumbling off. this was a good one.
>>483499176it's honestly incredible on a neutral place like /pol/ we can all agree that Trump continues his unbeatable winning streak
>>483499176Really, you can't remember the trump Biden debate?
>>483499376>What is the metric that these pollsters use to determine the winner?it would be a yes or no question asked to random people who watched the debate
https://youtu.be/zOTaz4S6QXo
>>483499395Why is the face bloody
>>483499347
Not a school shooter? I guess we can't be friends.
>>483499404>We've legally allowed Haitians to eat your pets :)
>>483499560he's so pretty bros
>>483499503meh I don't count that, can you even call that a debate?
"HURR DURR HE NEVER SAID TRUMP LOST SO BAWLZ WON!"All they got lol
>>483499554Should be the Curb theme
Walz status: M O G G E D
/ptg/ is Russian.
fact-checking on CBS now
I, for one, am glad that they talked about Finland more than Israel
>>483499560Probably the most photogenic picture of him on the whole campaign.
>>483499404>you guys weren't going to fact check
Didn’t watch. Iran missile attack took all my interest in this debate away.
>>483499561
>>483499308kek this
>>483499554
>JD Vance falsely claimed that Kamala Harris had a magic wand
Vance haters, I told you sot. OG JD bro
Two decent public spirited men debating their differences, the way American democracy should be. Not the orange oaf talking about eating or grabbing pussies and trying to overthrow legitimate election results.
JD Vance looked really good. Still not voting for Trump though. I'd think about voting for JD Vance in 2028, I can say that.
>>483499176I wasn't paying attention to the debate tying, but I did want to share something with everyone: FUCK KIKES ARGHHHHG!!
>>483499714>Didn’t watch. Iran missile attack took all my interest in this debate away.Yeah because they blew up your workplace at Mossad HQ
CBS desperate to now reframe the debate
>>483499176Has anyone talked about the fact that Walz said his kid was home alone with his dog? If he's 17 now, he was 13 then. Walz was governor at that time. His kid was completely alone in the governor's home? Kek. Bullshit. If he was here, totally alone, then he's a horrible parent.
>>483499609Blue eyes need to be a requirement to be president
ZOG VP Choice 1 vs ZOG VP Choice 2
>>483499307He deserves an extra big party hat for that victory.
Can't you niggers just vote Vance into the presidency instead of Trump? He's way better. kthxbye
I'll say this about Walz: He's a shitlib, but he's at least not as smug and unlikable as Carmella. That said, Vance kicked his ass up and down the stage tonight.
https://files.catbox.moe/stohls.mp4
>>483499500Crazy when normal people debate isn’t it?
>>483499500>when the undercard is better than the main eventhow this country has fallen
>>483499176https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kbkysPTnHcWalz got destroyed hard
Did they even talk about race?
>>483499288Walz, is that you?
>>483499790Shouldn't you be busy shoveling debris from mossad's headquarters, Shekelstein?
>>483499776>>483499727i got those screencaps :')
over under on tims kid being in tears
>>48349986613 is old enough to be chilling alone at home.
>>483499871>t.nonvoterNo one cares, opinion discarded
>>483499911Legally yes, practically no. Would if I could though.
Vance won because his main job, like Pence in 2016, was to convince normies that there is an “adult” in the room… that way they can justify in their pea brain propaganda washed mind that “muh Hitler” will be tamped down by Vance, therefore it’s ok to elect him because they want a good economy, less woke shit, and an end of the powder keg foreign policy around the world. Was a great night for the Trump campaign especially with Israel blowing up and the terrible response to the white Katrina in Appalachia unfolding. Also ended the whole “weird” crap because both guys clearly enjoyed talking to one another and it was a normal and productive conversation for the most part
>>483499404Good fucking point. Why the duck are they there legally. Only people saying this are therightstuff dot biz.
>>483499911If they keep trying to kill Trump, that's probably what'll happen.
>I HAVE BECAME FRIENDS OF SCHOOL SHOOTERSTHIS WAS THE PHRASE THAT BURIED HIM. REMEMBER IT.
>>483499176the ending is the most important part. he height mogged and hair mogged him
>>483499791fagyou will die of gay aids under kamalawhen your daughter is raped by a beaner, remember that you voted for it
These two are much better candidates than either Trump or Kamala. Both are weighed down by their idiot partners, fucking unreal we have to choose between two retarded presidents while these guys are actually trying to salvage their campaigns.
Vance should be president.
>>483499790when you offer up a clown like hillary, biden, or kamala, don't be surprised when you're met with another clown, nigel.
>>483499949Vance talked a good amount about illegal immigration.
>>483499176why can't all of our politicians be midwestern white guys instead of a reality tv buffoon and a mutt whore?
>>483499404Funny how they don’t continue to where he completely schooled the moderators on the policy
>>483499474kek
MSNBC claiming Walz “DOMINATED”, but that they hoped nobody watched at the same time (????)NBC was claiming it was a good debate and was evenly matchedCNN is currently downplaying the importance of a VP debatewhat does this all mean????
>If you're a woman you're probably notthe fuck did he mean by this
so much face kino tonight
screencaps alone made this worth watching
>>483499176I've been telling lefties for weeks that they were in trouble. Ever since that Dana Bash interview the guy is just too fucking quick for them. But they continued to run with their "weird incel couch fucker" memes for another two months past their expiry. For many of them, this was the first time they actually heard Vance speak. It was a fucking gut punch. They COMPLETELY misread and underestimated him and he just raped their candidates vp in front of the nation.
>>483499404>>483499486If I were Vance I would have had proof on my phone ready and in my pocket, ready to whip out when they tried fact-checking.>*pulls cell phone out to gesture with*>"So you say but apparently your sources aren't up to snuff. Want me to send you the links?"Moderators would have disintegrated.
>>483500146Vance won clearly. Just spin and cope
>>483500177
>>483499176>Guns: tieWrong. Vance BTFO'd it with the stellar : >>483492338
>>483499949>Did they even talk about race?They both came really close when they spoke about gun crime comparisons with Finland
>>483499601nice
>>483499635That's bigger than you think. He effectively destroyed his credibility
Debates are dumb anymore it is either you want full blown communism or you don’t and no debate will change that
>>483499486How bout they check his retard being at a shooting
The narrative is going to be Walz stumbled but he pulled it out and came from behind in the end and actually won the debate. You could see them planting the seeds.
>>483500166Kek wondered this too
VOTE ON A VP DEBATE WINNER HERE!strawpoll.com/2ayLQl2J3n4
>>483499176I mean, pic related basically opened her legs for JD after he put her in her place. He's like the anti-Trudeau.
>>483499347I believe him>>483499637
>>483500227
>>483500131looks like one of those old app filters
>>483500102man needs relief factor
lmao CNN still seething about Jan 6thNobody cares faggots, people can’t afford gas
Walz had a good hit-to-miss ratio. He went really deep into explaining a great understanding of environmental science and the ACA/healthcare. Vance being more articulate than anyone expected made him look really good, especially since Trump set the bar so low, and when he wasn't busy dancing around Trump's retardation his positions on stage separated him apart from his media persona--almost as if he's a moderate democrat plant. Not saying he is a plant, but what he says in the media and what he says on stage are two different things. Also, Tim's team should've prepared him better to catch JD's lies, like the government overstepping into social media, when Trump was the only person abusing it against dissenters. Debate conclusion: Boring.
>>483500072I don't think that's how you change minds, dude. I know it's just 4chins banter, but what's the point?
>>483499176>how the fuck did Vance win this topic?Turns out Yale Law School actually trains you for something.
>>483500288I'd let her fact check me, heh, if, uh, you know what I mean
It's a shame that all of the oddly specific VP memes end up going to waste. Sad!
>>483499376>What is the metric that these pollsters use to determine the winner?Lmao election tourists, everyone
>>483499844How long until Tim's dookie drips down to the main market boys?
The problem is Vance gives women the ick. Just ask any of them lmao
>>483500347YWNBAW
>>483499642Nice
>>483500175There sure were a lot
>>483500385Who gives a shit about women's opinions? They just parrot what they read on social media.
>>483500273kek
>>483500478>was there though?
>>483499176I don't like Vance but goddamn did he perform well here.Compare with the 2020 VP debate when Pence outclassed Harris and they tried to divert attention with the fly thing. There was no diversion to be had here, Vance straight up dominated.
I think Vance's approvals will now shoot up, but I'm not sure if that moves the national poll. At least Vance focused on the rust belt, similar to Trump in the Harris debate.The Dems are speaking to their base, the Republicans are speaking to the voters they need with they hone in on energy policy and immigration.
>>483500385the problem is women should be given their opinions by men
>>483500385He has pretty eyes and good policy but I hate that he’s married to a Indian. Who cares, it’s his life, but someone better start advocating for whites.
Walz is a natural loser. He was picked to be Kamala's sub, and tonight he became Vance's sub
>>483500516The republicans should, considering their voting power.
>>483500288She's kinda sexy for a jewess, ngl
>>483499990based Russell Crowe
>>483500563>I don't likeWHo cares shut the fuck up
>>483499404>While Haitian people are eating pets in Ohio, they have legal status. Based on this we are going to have to agree that Trump saying Illegal migrants eating Cats in Ohio has been DEBUNKED.
>>483500684She's jewish? Damn, even hotter.
>>483499560Sure is sexy.The bitches are getting wet.
>>483499176>January 6th/Democracy: how the fuck did Vance win this topic?He is simply an elite debater. I've competed at national-level collegiate tournaments for this type of thing and he approached it in exactly the best manner: (1) give a short, solid but not thorough response and (2) pivot to an argument on which you have the advantage.>(1) Trump asked for peaceful protests, and he peacefully gave up power on January 20th>(2) But the real threat to democracy is Kamala Harris's censorship efforts…Simple format, the devil is in making the first answer strong enough to survive scrutiny without lingering on the point and Vance executed well
>>483500323his retarded son basically made him take it
>>483500057They might not want to anymore after tonight. Vance is now the "even worse" insurance policy for Trump that Kamala was for Biden.
>>483500540>you betcha
vance is a good debater and i think ppl really underestimate him, dude definitely has a good political futurewalz is good at playing the elmer fudd but i dont think that works in national elections, maybe in podunk minnesotalast person to win off something like that was carter
>>483499393>waltzjack
>>483500385Not after he put the moderator staceys in their place tonight. Power move
>>483500811I agree and noticed it clearly. Not only did he do those two things, but he kept inserting a one sentence comment that addressed the original question to avoid seeming like he didn't answer it. I've watched a lot of debates and this might be the most impressive performance I've seen.
Did they talk about how JD's mom was a crackhead?
Big thing for Vance was that he managed to sound like a human bean in the later parts of the debate. He should try to keep that up and not be the turbo autist debate master all the time.
Imagine being Mark Kelly, an astronaut, and having to sit through this debate knowing kamala picked this mouthbreather over you
>>483500201I think you aren't allowed to have electronic devices in a debate, unless you are a democrat for earpiece speakers
>>483500576Jesus Christ, imagine caring about such trivial things. what are you, a girl? are you jealous of some jeet, girl?
>>483499427>waltzjack collages NAOW
>>483499600kek, lost it here
>>483501001JD himself brought that up and something that helped shape his character
POST Vance's wife ffs
>>483501001JD mentioned it.
>>483499867Is it worth it to have to walk through all the poo though? Trump is going to break his neck one day when he slips on vances wifes shit walking down a hallway.
>>483501001No but he did
>>483501030they ended up with walz because no one was dumb enough to hitch their career in politics to kamala.
>>483500318LOL
>>483501032Was that ever proven?
>>483501043race mixing is disgusting
>>483500902Walz take on the ACA actually being affordable was yet another indicator of how out of touch he is. $500 a month for $7000 deductible plan, is not "affordable health care".
>>483500811>>483500902the lizard-people are evolvingthey have caught on to the fact that average lay-person recognizes that non-answers are cringethe meta is changing before our eyes
Imagine being a shill that has to defend Walz's performance tonight. That's a tough job.
apparently youtube tv doesn't have cspan. does anyone have a stream? I remember pence's 2016 domination was so obvious they had to change the call in question because literally every caller was in love with pence
>>483500265It's true
>>483499948Kind of feel bad for this fella. You can tell he’s a nervous guy and his wife seems like a crazy cunt.
They should have put Kamala in this debate instead. Walz is somehow more fake and gay than JD. When he started begging for reason around the J6 shit, I knew he lost and I think he knew as well. I absolutely kek'd just how grotesque the whole display was. Bravo JD. I kneel, for now.
>>483500946Yeah. He controlled the topic being debated without drawing glaring attention to just how much control he was exerting
>>483501153no, it was cope.
>>483500946I've watched less than 10 debates ever and even to me that move was obvious.
>>483501198They just screech chud and hope their enemies cry about it from what I see
>>483501043It is an insight into their character. Would vance cut down on white collar visas from india? I doubt it.
>>483499984Under normal circumstances. We're talking about, kek, the day of the biggest threat to democracy, all that shit breaking out at the Capitol AND there in Minnesota. Bad people were headed to the governor's mansion. Where the fuck were they? Mom and Dad doing whatever, kid so scared he had to "run to a neighbor's house"? Kek, bullshit story - along with the sped witnessed a mass shooting. Kek, they would have been pushing this story long before tonight, were it true.WALZ IS A PROVEN LIAR ALREADY, add this shit to the list.
>>483501198pick your favorite shabbos goy
>>483499176Vance was a boss tonight.
>>483499176Fuck off shills, still voting for Kamala Harris 2024
Kamala sisters can Queen fire this old white guy
>>483501251That was an enormous JD loss. He was called out on trying to dodge. It was a phenomenal failure.
>>483499176Neither really “won”>Walz seems sympathetic and normal>jd knows how to dodge questions and shift blame
>>483499288>I dont think so, Tim.
>>483501370You reserve that right
holy fuck
>>483501295But it's effective if you can do it within a stream of consciousness which I think he did >>483501269if you paid close attention you could see the structure of it but it didn't come across as overt or desperate
People say that this presidential cycle is based on VIBES not policy.Vance had far better vibes than Walz. I watched the entire thing. Walz had no vibe at all. His demeanor was that of someone they found on the street. His mannerisms and talking style were like he was a fat tourist being interviewed or something. He had no vibe at all. Vance was 100% vibe.
>>483501360>pick your favorite shabbos goyseriously, they literally put israel as the first topic. we're in trouble.
>>483501414i like these memes
>>483501370>>483501409don't be sore losers
Im watching CNN they say it was a draw
>>483501409>jd knows how to dodge questions and shift blamepolitics 101
>>483500347>>483501370
>>483501414Kek. Now do one with Trump and him on Tool Time.
>>483501390Dodging an obvious trap question is not a loss. Not answering is a better than than playing along with that nonsense.
>>483501432>Walz had no vibe at all.he had a vibe, but it was a feminine emotional vibe.
>>483501423Walz was favored going in? Really?
>>483501390Delusional
>TFW you just watched JD Vance spend 90 minutes convincing Tim Walz to vote for Trump
>>483501162>$7 minimum wage>~$15k/year>$500 per month payment = $6k/year>$7k deductible>$6000 + $7000 = $13,000>$15,000 - $13,000 = $2,000$2000 left from your entire yearly salary on an “affordable” plan. You can’t argue that it works better for higher wages because you wouldn’t qualify in that case.
>>483501390It doesn't matter. Walz looked like a desperate begging cuck. You have to realize this. Even if his position of reason is reasonable or not (I'm not debating that) it just makes you look gay. Also the fudd shit about shotguns in his truck and everything was giga cringe and fake.
>>483500811This is why I would never publicly debate. I hate when faggots just move topics because they perceive a "loss" if they say what the opponent wants them to say. I would have just said the election was stolen because it was and they know they did. Weird how you change all the voting laws under emergency powers right before a federal election. Usually you request an absentee ballot while mail-in ballots are conveniently sent right to you. Totally not compromising an election to favor yourself. Weird how voting closes at specific times while the mail-in ballots just have to be accepted by the post office and could be counted days later because of time in transit.
>>483500347>the government overstepping into social media, when Trump was the only person abusing it against dissentersThat part is just plain wrong, otherwise agree
>>483501295Being able to identify the move is much easier than being able to pull it off effectively
>>483499176>I can't remember the last time a debate was so onesided.Um, Trump v Biden just a couple of months ago?
How do I become more like Vance in my current job/career? I wish I had dead eyes like he does
>be Tim WalzI support forcing people to carry health insurance under penalty of taxes again>be JDlol thanks Tim dot jpeg
>>483500385Nah he’s handsome woman won’t be grossed out by him if this is the first they saw of him without bias
>>483501661again I meant an actual debate, not a political slaughter of a senile old man.
>>483501600Yeah it felt like that a few times, when he’s standing there nodding and you could kind of see the defeat in his eyes
>>483501414kek
>>483501620Democracy is not a truth-seeking endeavor
>>483501620>Weird how voting closes at specific times while the mail-in ballots just have to be accepted by the post office and could be counted days later because of time in transit.That's not weird, that's just how mail works. The selective myopia of election deniers is absolutely astounding.
>>483499956>>483501414To be honest looking back at the debate, I meant to say more that Vance won by a decent margin.
>>483499176I didn't get the chance to watch, was it actually that bad for Tim Walz?
>>483501122Think Kelly was offered?
>>483501494Vance humanized Tim Walz and accidentally endorsed every single one of Harris’ policies while trying to avoid getting mad. He was headline fishing and came back empty
>>483500245Indeed, wonder how many were redpilled by this gem
>>483501432Vance seemed calm and collected while Walz seemed nervous and on-edge.
>importing tens of millions of people has minimal impact on housing affordability >we just need to build more houses!
>>483501831His senate seat is too important for the dems to ask him to give it up
>>483501845I bet your discord thought that was a good retort. >>483501822Not as bad as some people would think. Walz did fine but Vance was more articulate and able to get his points across.
>>483501822Yea similar to Sarah palin and Biden blunder bad. If this was the presidential debate it would be over. But Sarah proved VP can sink a campaign too.
>>483499923>https://files.catbox.moe/stohls.mp4what a knucklehead, amirite?#WhiteGuysForHarris#HorseCumGuzzler#HeAin'tHeavyHe'sMyRetardedSon#TienanmenSquareWitness#IHaveCarriedWeaponsOfWar
Vance did well I can agree, but Vance can’t take away from how delusional Trump is. >I haven’t talked to Vance. And he won’t listen to Vance Trump will continue to do nonsensical bullshit that changes depending on who is making fun of him. I would vote for Vance if he was the presidential nominee and if republicans didn’t blame every problem on immigrants. but he’s not the nominee delusional trump is and I won’t be gas lit by him or vance
>>483499450funny, because MY #vpdebate focus group told me the exact opposite.
Both Vance and Walz did better than I expected, but I expected to Vance to beat Walz. So Walz didn't do terribly but Vance did a phenomenal job and won soundly.Something not mentioned by OP was that Vance looked calm and confident the entire time and Walz looked like a nervous wreck, easily the worst thing Walz did was his constant worried expression. That was easily worse than his gaffes and deflections.
>>483501424>>483501647Alright, that's a very good point.
>>483501360no shit, your elites are either kikes or clamoring to join the Tribeboth elite camps you get to "choose" from are rootless, committed to muttified vision of American empireat least this episode of peasant 'power' circus was real funny
>>483501929absolutely. walz could fuck this up and go back to congress in his cuck state
>>483501845This even though you'll get raked for saying it
Whoever wins, we all lose
>>483501926>partially truelol
>>483499395sam hyde constantly expresses a distaste for jews so im gonna believe he's on the right side of history
>>483501930Nah you’re coping. He did very bad. Worst part was with blatant China law that he monkeyed around on for four minutes. Than the stupid ugly faces. Just came off as low iq and panicked
all that these modern debates matter for is TV ad cherry picking. The majority of voters didn't watch this, but will be inundated with TV ads spinning the debate outcomes in their party's favor. See the nonsensical Kamala answers being cut short in her recent ads to make it look like she knew how to debate
>>483502050>completely true but let's soften the blow
>>483502079His mother's jewish and he's a trust fund faggot. Don't believe that nigger's lies.
>>483501926If he had blamed wealthy speculators (foreign and domestic) then I actually would've respected him for it.
>>483500166He meant that all women are denied medical care, everyday, all day, because of something Trump did 4 years ago that was irreversible.WHY WON'T THEY JUST LET WOMEN KILL THEIR CHILDREN ON A WHIM!?!?!
>Foreign policybeing weak is winning?
>>483502105How was the viewership for this?
>>483502092>>483502031His entire over arching theme was Kamala's policies have caused every thing going wrong with the country you buffoons.
>>483501963Vance's whole job is to be the straight man next Trump, same with Pence before. Which is ironic since he looks so fruity.
It was pretty dumb for libs to go on and on about how vance is “weird” only for him to be suave as fk during debate and his opponent being a nervous creepy fk
>>483499500>these 2 sounded more presidential than their running matesThis happens every time FYI. Presidential debate is a gossip/girl fight (you're ugly, no you are, you're stupid, well you're fat). VP debate is usually mostly on policy rather than ego.
I wasn't a fan of Vance as the VP pick, but I wasn't aware of his debate prowess. He made Walz look awful.
I'm only still watching to see to see the reaction of the undecideds they had pre-debate but they aren't showing them, the same thing happened with the Harris debate. They mustn't have given Walz a glowing endorsement. I'm not seeing any media polls either.
When did you realize that this is board is mostly re ddit and leftypol? /pol/ has shilled against vance like crazy for months, because he's a white male, i guess, and when he finally blows the fuck out of the left's favorite socialist, you pretend it didn't happen.
>>483501198Jan 6>Jan 6Jan 6>Jan 6Jan 6>Jan 6Jan 6>Jan 6Jan 6>Jan 6Jan 6>Jan 6Jan 6>Jan 6Jan 6>Jan 6There. That's the strategy.
>>483501044ok
>>483502339Pretty funny honestly. They played themselves so hard.
>>483499347>if you kill your enemies, they winsame energy
>>483502416>/pol/ hasyou mistake organic users with democrat donor paid shilling
israel won the debate
>>483499288People thought Vance was a retard before today.This is an absolute victory.
>>483501414>vance is the al to trumps timI don't think so, trump
>>483501491Thank you kind stranger
Overall this was great debate, marked by respect and decorum. Both candidates were well-informed and just kind. I wish our presidential candidates acted that way.
>>483502259And it’ll resonate. Too many illegals and black people eating cats. Send them home. That plus Walz couldn’t speak clearly. You’ll cope for a little but anyone who watched knows you’re coping, just like some tried with the Biden debate at first.
>>483501491Have another
>>483502510>israel won the debatesomehow before it even started
>>483501491And another
>>483501907He knows they're going to throw him into the woodchipper if he loses
>>483502576wait wut? I agree with you. I think I misunderstood your first post desu.
>>483499288cope
>FACT CHECK!!
>>483501926the context is that shitskins buy up all the houses because they flood communities not equipped to deal 20+% jumps in population so demand goes up, and also they don't mind shoving 10+ of them into a house meaning they can afford to buy them even when realtors start jacking up prices
>>483501332>mmmm ooo his character>oooo i wish he would breed meshut up girlhttps://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2024/01/17/bad-news-for-employers-immigrants-and-h-1b-visas-in-second-trump-term/
>>483501788Some states had rules where you could postmark a mail-in ballot on election day and still send it in. Imagine delaying an election for postal transit when absentee ballots have a deadline to ensure all ballots reach them before election day. This also allows family members or people in the community to just fill out every mail-in ballot for that person because it never had to be requested by the original party in the first place. They KNEW they couldn't pass these laws without emergency powers.
What's his policies?
I'm a democrat but holy shit I can't defend this, Trump really is going to win this time isn't he? Fuck it, gonna stay home and get drunk on election night
>>483501546I thought about that, but then it'll look like Vance saying "I don't think so, Tim" to Trump.
He won but... what the hell is up with his constant onions / Jim face?
>>483502259Proudly wrong. You people always are.
>>483499791You can vote for Vance in 2024 and hope that Trump gets incapacitated.
>>483499601Based
>>483502687I’m just saying that Walz did so bad that he could have sunk Kamala’s campaign if she ever had an honest shot. He did awful in comparison to Vance
>>483502807>You peopleand there it is
>>483502805
>>483502871oh yea then I agree I thought you meant Vance did bad
>>483502871imagine being meek and gay tim walz and having to defend kamala against debate club gigachad jd vance.
>>483500347>Tim's team should've prepared him better to catch JD's lies, like the government overstepping into social media, when Trump was the only person abusing it against dissenters.kill yourself
>>483502004>Vance looked calm and confident the entire time and Walz looked like a nervous wreckSame as the Trump-Biden debate.watch that one (and also this one) with sound off/muted
>>483502871To be fair, when the option is "go to the rally or be shot by kgb", I'm sure people will show up.
>>483501122>hitch their career in politics to kamala.This because poo in loo is unelectable.
>>483500288she did stop with the bullshit quips at the end of his comments after that.
>>483502755>demI hope you're not a white supporter of the most anti-white, corrupt, authoritarian party in the western world, you nigger.
>>483501491Fuck it. Heres the fixed original, i just fucked up the edit the first time. Forgive me, I'm a knucklehead.
i wonder what the slaveblue spin will be tomorrow
>>483499672Very nice drawing. Saved.
>>483502677>He knows they're going to throw him into the woodchipper if he losesThere is definitely a good chance Walz gets thrown to the wolves if Kamala loses. They will need a scapegoat & he's old, white, & male --- he's perfect
>>483503083i can't wait for the fact checkers to deboooonk this
>>483503145h-he fucks couches or something idk project 2025 drumpf bad no you are
>>483503145Jan 6th>Jan 6thJan 6th>Jan 6thJan 6th>Jan 6thJan 6th>Jan 6thJan 6th>Jan 6thThat's their spin.
>>483500347>JD's lies, like the government overstepping into social media, when Trump was the only person abusing it against dissentersJust kys, you miserable lying cunt.
>>483503083yeah he is not going to live that one down.
>>483501423FUCK YOU POLYMARKET WHY WON'T YOU LET AMERICANS BET ON YOUR SITE!!!!!
>>483500608You stupid fuck, do you need it spelled out for you?They will get their opinions from social media. You can be the best goddamn person on the planet, if the people that own the bullhorn tell the women you are bad, then you're bad.
>>483499176> Stronger doorsThinking Vance one is so fucking funny to me LOL
>>483503145No spin, just deflection and damage control. They will highlight the fact that both candidates were very cordial unlike Trump during his debate. They will try to downplay the debate, make it seem insignificant so they can move it out of the news cycle as quick as possible.
>>483503411>oneKek
>>483501370You sound like a fag
>>483500347>trump's the one that censored people>moderate, sensible demshttps://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/03/23/shellenberger_governments_around_the_world_are_hyping_hate_in_order_to_weaponize_the_state_against_political_enemies.htmlhttps://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2023/08/24/democrats_have_broken_america_wheres_the_outrage_149666.htmlhttps://www.manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2024-7-5-who-is-the-greater-threat-to-democracyhttps://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2023/12/05/heres_the_jan_6_jurisprudence_about_to_be_unleashed_on_trump_996431.html
The worst thing about Vance has to be his running mate. You really get the sense watching him that he is genuinely just trying his best. Even that thing where he admitted to making false stories (lies) "to bring attention where its needed" You get the sense he really believes it, and its endearing. Makes the whole dunkin donuts thing feel less like hes a sociopath and more that hes just really awkward.Walz was nervous and has a poor resting face. It's like nixon versus jfk again, because he made his arguments well, other than that awful fumble with the chinese backstory (did he seriously not prepare for that one?). It felt calculated that they asked Vance about Trump's "concepts of a plan" right after so he wouldn't feel free to pounce on Walz. It felt like I was watching Vance getting convinced in real time when he was talking about gun reform and how they do it in europe. I also am convinced Vance is 100% pro-abortion but is held back by his party.The "friends with school shooters" thing was stupid but it's not like le libs dont pounce on the dozen bizarre things trump says every day so I dont give a shit.Overall was a very good debate. The candidates asked permission to speak, cut each other off very little, and had a sense of mutual respect. In this same vein, the moderator fact checking was a big mistake. Trust your viewers to make their own decisions, its not like kamala didnt say some smelly stuff in the pres debate. Ultimately I had the feeling watching it that they will grab a beer together after it was over. Overall big win for trump (and vance in 2028), since now it seems like he actually has someone smart behind him that can clean up after his messes.
>>483500347https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/apr/28/dhs-launches-war-on-free-speech/https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/poll-democrats-increasingly-embrace-censorship-from-the-government-and-big-techhttps://www.foxnews.com/politics/disinformation-push-dhs-politicizing-top-homeland-security-republicanhttps://www.foxnews.com/opinion/fbi-twitter-formed-censorship-alliance-they-cant-allowed-get-away
>>483502105Also no one ever points out her simpering to the moderator about Trump getting to respond more than she did when they kept silencing her.
>>483503535>>483503638you don't gotta convince us, swedebro, tim walz ran a snitch hotline for covid
>>483502725Trump is running for president you retard, vance isn't setting policy yet. Look at how well amy coney barrett turned out. It's the same argument.
>>483499956I don't think Walz can handle the captcha.
>>483499710>th-th-th-that's all folks
>>483503766lmfao
>>483502704The bigger problem is Blackrock buying up every house they can snag. Then they rent them out to illegals because Larry Fink can afford it and he's the driving force behind both the DEI and ESG movements.
>>483502563Politics is a blood sport, and debates should reflect the fact that these people are running to be paid killers on the public fisc>A politics of joy
>>483499560I knew I'd see thia faggot face here
>>483501607Please clap
>>483502413You could tell the one guy was really struggling to make it look like he was serious in thinking Walz did really well
>>483502474lol i miss that quote like you wouldn't believe
>>483502022>walz could fuck this up and go back to congressHe’s a governor retard
Joy Reid Fact Checking on MSNBC saying Vance lied about solar panel production. Said USA makes majority solar panels.> China produces 86% of the world's solar panels each year, according to Germany's Fraunhofer Institute for Solar Energy Systems. In comparison, Europe and North America each produce around 2%.Ports shutting down and hitting economy hard this month, war all over the world, natural disaster and no help sent, and now this debate. Kamala is fucked.
>>483502807How so idiot?
>>483502022
>>483503166CHECKED
>Opening: Vance wonAgree>Foreign policy: Vance wonAgree>Climate change: amazingly Vance wonYes but barely, he should have mentioned that actually neither frequency nor intensity of hurricanes has increased.>Immigration: Vance wonAgree>Moderators: BTFOIndeed>Economy: Vance wonAgree>Off topic gotcha question: Vance didn't really win but Walz lostWas surprised this happened.>Abortion: amazingly Vance won, on a liberal issue, againVance really dropped the ball on this. Walz repeated all the left's favorite talking points and Vance didn't really refute any of them. He should have emphasized how we're not just talking about "women taking control of their bodies", abortion 100% of the time destroys someone's body, and all the left does is wave their hand and pretend it's not so. Trump has also come out in support of exceptions for rape and incest, Vance should have talked about that. Also he should have slammed the Project 2025 lie, stop letting them get away with it!>Guns: tie, neither really got the other but neither did badAgree, Vance should have mentioned how Americans have been allowed to own guns since always but school shootings have only been a thing for a few decades, so we should focus on what changed in the past few decades.>Economy part 2: Vance wonAgree>Healthcare: probably Walz, even though Vance did his best defending the "concepts of a plan" commentI'd say it was a tie>Childcare: Vance won, Walz even agreed with what he said lolAgree>January 6th/Democracy: how the fuck did Vance win this topic?He fucking didn't, holy hell did he drop the ball on this! He should have mentioned how most of the evidence was never seen in court and slammed Walz's and the Democrats' gaslighting on the subject. >Closing: Vance wonAgreeOverall Vance won but it was close, he could've done a lot better.
>>483503268Not for a long time...
>>483502339Cause that deflect is all they have. “I know you are but what am I?” Stupid fucks.
Fuck both of these people. The #1 question or issue should be why we are paying interest on money that we (congress) have the exclusive constitutional right to issue.>We will never be able to pay off the debt! We have to pay off the debt!Fucking neocons and cuckservatives. Imagine advocating with zeal for the repayment of loan from a mafioso>we need to expand medicare noooo you can't cut dem programzfucking commie scum democrats printing money like there is no tomorrow devaluing our hard earned slave wage and then mass invading the country with illegals that put a strain on all resources.This Vance guy is very intelligent, which makes me think we became a marine grunt for the street credit by design. That he is some kind of manchurian candidate, educated at the top institutions, perhaps member of secret societies. Also they make them marry outside their race. He may have picked the best choice he could, a pajeeta instead of a pure sub saharan.Maybe the do let Trump win, then someone they get him out and this Vance takes over.
>>483501227WSJ broadcast in full here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WbKF3Qt9hg
>>483504829>January 6th/Democracy: how the fuck did Vance win this topic?>He fucking didn't, holy hell did he drop the ball on this! He should have mentioned how most of the evidence was never seen in court and slammed Walz's and the Democrats' gaslighting on the subject.I really wish he would have talked more about election security as well, like voter ID. Definitely his weakest topic of an otherwise very good debate.
>>483503620tl;dr - post milkers
