> Ukraine> west gives shit ton of money all the time> government just steals all of it> soldiers need vehicles and signal jamming equipment> because government steals all aid, volunteers have to do fundraisers for everything> fundraisers succeed> vehicles with signal jammers reportedly bought and sent "to frontlines"> conscription officers appear on city streets in same vehicles and kidnap people> people can't even call their family or lawyers because of signal jammers
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>>486581707>> people can't even call their family or lawyers because of signal jammersso the conscription officers can't call for help either?
>>486581707why are you hiding behind meme flag op??
>>486581806It's 6 vs 1, what you gonna do?https://streamable.com/nlatpb
>>486581959I'm afraid of my ISP and of potential men-in-the-middle.
>>486582238liar
>>486582371I won't turn off my VPN to prove anything. Safety is infinitely more important than some anon's trust.
>>486582578fine pick a country thenhiding behind meme flags is pathetic
>>486582131Draft officers have families anons.To truely beat the draft, you need to use a hammer on their sons and daughters, and a hunting knife on his wife.Stop fighting the draft officers and inflict total war and brutality on their families.
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>>486581707>> people can't even call their family or lawyers because of signal jammersBelievable
>>486581707>> west gives shit ton of money all the time>> government just steals all of itthe vast majority of western aid has been aid in kind, not cash donations - i.e. loans and guns. it's quite difficult to "steal" a HIMARS.you're lying.
>>486584073Over 50 billion in cash for salaries and pensions you stupid fucking troon
The failure of Western media to accurately report the situation will be studied for awhile. I understand why, but I do think the propaganda has gone too far and people have been let down with absolutely outlandish claims of how invincible the Ukrainians have been and how incompetent the Russians have been. It’s had the opposite effect of not portraying the seriousness of the situation.Whoever has been in charge of coordinating the Western media effort didn’t realise that trust is too high and that people will literally believe anything they write, and it went too far.You can tell it was some old Soviet hat who is used to writing bullshit and not being taken 10000% seriously.Western media themselves failed by getting too emotional and therefore taking every statement from these old Soviet hats literally, and Western governments have been happy to play along too.The fact that two concurrent misinformation campaigns are running between the Russians and Ukraine/West means that this war has been hopelessly reported on and it’s been an institutional failure by the media.
>>486584156https://www.newsscrollngr.com/index.php/component/k2/item/37036-what-to-know-after-day-981-of-russia-ukraine-war#gsc.tab=0Ukrainian army banned from using word ‘retreat’ – US-run mediaThe Ukrainian military has reportedly instructed soldiers to avoid using the term “retreat” in communication with the press, according to a reporter from RFE/RL, the US state-run foreign media network.In an interview with Kiev’s Radio NV, on Wednesday, Vlasta Lazur shared insights gathered from recent conversations with Ukrainian troops and their commanders.“I spoke with a soldier on the Pokrovsk front,”Lazur said. “He said, ‘We received orders to use the words ‘offensive,’ ‘victory,’ ‘moving forward,’ and ‘driving out the enemy’ when communicating with journalists. But I can’t say the word ‘retreat’ or that the enemy has breached our defenses.’”
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>>486582131they were so eager to fight orc tanks but a couple of draft officers is too much all of sudden? bull shieeeet, wanna know why no one is doing anything? because each and every single one of them is a rat snitching or at best shaming others, while desperately hiding hoping they won't be next and yet screaming slava ukraini online
>>486585374Actual soldiers are too busy on frontlines and confused with forced conscription situation. Some of them say it's terrible, others say it's needed. Those who say the latter are mostly media-oriented "soldiers" though. People in cities are those who choose to not go to war, those who prefer to avoid problems and less likely to do maniac shit like chasing and attacking families of draft officers. I mean, if you were a kind of person who would do that, by the same psychic mechanisms you would probably go to war at the very beginning when there was strong bright image of Ukraine supported by the whole world and image of weak unprofessional Russia.
>>486581707ukraine's "sacrifice" meant nothingthe sociopathic bibilical-scale arrogance & hubris of the ukrainian peoplewill be a living message to all of mankind,a 'warning' for anyone who wants to believe western-liesthe lunatic arrogance the ukraine displayed during this conflictwill result in a merciless tsunami of humiliation and memetic backlash.the nation will dissolve,andthe word: 'the ukraine' itselfwill become a monument to the collossal arrogance of the most brain addled,mis-informed and manipulated puppet in the history of statehoodthe ukraine will become an 'un-marked grave' to the liberal world orderukraine will be forgotten and buried, like the hundreds of thousands of men it pointlessly sent to their deaththe fate of the ukraine is to be demilitarized, de-industrialized, and turned into an effeminant rump-state that the eu will innudate with lgbtq propaganda, inextricably tied to the meager and and inssufficient 'aide' to rebuild whatever is left of your country after Russia is done smashing it
>>486581707Can't they just start stabbing those conscription officer? If you're going to be sent to the meat grinder you might as well die while stabbing those fuckers to death. It sends a message.
>>486588415>Can't they just start stabbing those conscription officer? If you're going to be sent to the meat grinder you might as well die while stabbing those fuckers to death. It sends a message.ukrainians want the war to go on, they just simply dont want to be *next*zelensky has nothing to fucking do with this warthats why every draft-van video has an entire city block standing around filming, and laughingyou have been fundamentally misled about the situation in ukraine, and ukrainian peoplethis war wont "end" because they dont want it tothey actually believe they will "win" and somehow collapse Russia, balkanize it, and execute Putin as revenge
>>486588415>https://streamable.com/nlatpbWhy stab when you can shoot them? It easy to find a rifle in Ukraine. Why bother with stabbing? Shoot some """recruiters""" from a high rise building and be done with it.
>>486589521This can't be true. How can you watch shit like this happening and still think you can win? Or worse, not think that you can be the next one forced in the van?>>486589726Oh, I thought guns were hard to come around since I live in noguns country and that's why they just watch.
>>486588225> and turned into an effeminant rump-state that the eu will innudate with lgbtq propaganda,> inextricably tied to the meager and and inssufficient 'aide' to rebuild whatever is left of your country That's the spirit.You optimism is inspiring.
>>486589886>This can't be true. How can you watch shit like this happening and still think you can win? Or worse, not think that you can be the next one forced in the van?watch the webm related, and the thousand others like it, then get back to "us"ill have to find the other one with a dude literally filming and laughing>>486590818>That's the spirit.>You optimism is inspiring.lol the real outcome will be worse, there may be nothing left to 'rebuild'
>>486589521> thats why every draft-van video has an entire city block standing around filming, and laughingIn most videos people actually try to help, verbally of course.> this war wont "end" because they dont want it to> they actually believe they will "win" and somehow collapse Russia, balkanize it, and execute Putin as revengeThose people are telemaraphonists and vocal minority.Ukrainian youtube nowadays is full of doomer videos releasing daily and gaining hundreds of thousands views and big support,but for many people it's hard to speak against the war due to similar reasons it's hard for russians to speak against putin when they're asked on the streets and filmed.
>>486584156Fair assessment.
>>486589726Same goes for Russians, takes 2 to tango, you guys can leave anytime.
>>486591499this isnt a nation that has any sort of 'conscience' about it either
>>486583536This.Everyone has a large knife (longer than 4 inches, more than enough for some good lung and kidney stabs) at their home, that they use for cutting meat and vegetables.Those draft officer's and corrupt governmental official's family members aren't wearing stab proof clothing in public whenever they have to leave their homes for errands....
>>486592112>Same goes for Russians, takes 2 to tango, you guys can leave anytime.AHHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHHhthis nafo talking point^https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEDTrrAFXno>"Russia can end this war in 5 minutes by simply 'leaving'>"Russia can just walk away! and realize Putin has failed and embarrassed him self bigtime in front of everyone!">"If Russia leaves, the war is over, If ukraine leaves, ukraine will no longer exist">"Putin has already lost, and he must realize this, he has been embarrassed, and looks bad, so I think there will be a destablization of the Russian government, he will be jailed, and a new more 'sensible' western-frierndly government will take over, seeing the error of Putins ways. the 'rules based international liberal order' even" >"ukraine will be restored to the 1991 borders, and Putin will step down, and only then will talks begin">"Russia must realize it has LOST and Putin must stand trial for his crimes">"also, Russia will give up some of its territory&resources as reparations to the eu for the damage it caused"^its some of the most unbelieveably negligent, childishly obstinance and cognitively dissonant 'demands' imaginable to any "peace process" in the history of post war negotiationsthe sociopathic bibilical-scale arrogance & hubris of the ukraine and people like sikorskiwill become a monument to the collossal arrogance of the most brain addled,mis-informed and manipulated puppets in the history of statehood
