WTF IS HAPPENING???????
>>488121605Trump effect
exit pump
>>488121605My lil efferiums doin something
WE'RE ALL GONNA BE RICH
>>488121605Hyperhoeflation being priced in
Pump and dump
Byebye federal reserve
>>488121605they want you to buy in so they can pull the rug. there is no real wealth behind crypto. when the price goes down, you won’t be able to sell.
>>488121605>that picWhy isn't Monero pumping?In fact, why doesn't it pump, like ever?
>>488121913>>488121844These two posters don’t belong here
>>488121605Where's the anon who had been shilling deflation all this time?
>>488121960bitcoin is valued in fiat, you retard. destroying fiat currency will destroy the value in bitcoin. no one is going to cash you out in gold and silver.
>>488121605Everyone laughing at you being wrong and shilling against bitcoin all these years.
>>488121605Trump supporters are about to learn a valuable lesson
>>488121605I actually own about 0,4 still.> sell it> get a mortgage in Crimea> 25% yearly interest, 50% downpayment, ~60K for 30 yearsRate the plan. I bank on the idea of it going sky high once the war is over somewhere in 2026.
>>488122105>blackrock bought it so it has to be goodnigger
>>488121991Because is the only one that isn't a fucking scam and act as true money.
Trump is going to establish a strategic reserve, get in now, it's going to 250k+
>>488121991Monero is a criminal coin, DOA in the age of KYC. Why should it sell, ever.
>>488122071> no one is going to cash you out in gold and silver.no one is going to accept dollars for gold and silver either lmao
I HAVE ZERO CRYPTOS
>>488122262no one will accept dollars for anything when the fed ends, which is why bitcoin and other cryptos would be equally worthless
>>488121605Singularity
Just need another 20% increase in Doge and I can break even after years of diamond fist.
>>488121605What was always inevitable. Not owning any BTC in 2024, even like .01 BTC, means you are low IQ and are gonna remain poor.
>>488122173sky high? 60K already sounds like too much for a home in russia, how much would it cost without a war?also what if it's destroyed or zelesnki takes that land and it's involved in war after war?
>>488122383people will accept cryptos for silver and gold and already dogo home fiat head
>>488122414Bingo
>>488122433>dogeyou've gotta be trolling lol
>>488122488Bitcoin ETF as of today exceeds the value of Gold ETFs
>>488121605Hopefully you don't have it locked in a exchange lol
>>488121605you did buy a bag right? right?
>>488121991Because monero is real
>>488122536If that’s his coin that’s his coin. Hope it goes to the moon.
>>488121605Pump n Dump, plebs
>>488121680Not really, it's just a kike pump and dump scheme.
>>488121972Hello no coiner. You silly Pajeet.
>>488122629Plebs don’t own assets
>>488121605All the Biden inflation contained in the banking system through artificially high rates is leaving the system all at once since trump is saying he wants lower rates.To be honest if he does good energy policies this may be great for his economy, if he fails to do that all the Biden inflation will be blamed on him and will be the fall guy.I don't think people understand how this system works but the 9% inflation peak in burgerland happened with rising rates so with money being sucked away from the economy obviously it had to leave at some point.
for me? it's dogecoin
>>488122629>he didn't go all in on $BANENGMI
>>488122383>trading BTC for dollars or metalsYou fundamentally misunderstand. BTC is money. It is not an asset and crypto is not an asset class. BTC is the money of the future. You will just pay for things in sats and not dollars. The whole point is to replace the dollar with BTC.
Jews will sell soon
>>488122709>Plebs don't own assetsExactly!
>>488122488>>488122536Fuck bitCoin.Its basicly digital Fiat, it has no privacy whatsoever.Only Monero matters.Also black rock and kikes are heavily invested in Bitcoin.Fuck bitCoin.
>>488122488idk man i really hope you're right, but, what i see right now, is a bunch of low IQ idiots buying it just to sell it later at a higher price to some other idiotthey literally dont understand anything about the economy or cryptos themselvesand they're not seriously using it as a currency. almost no one is. you can't buy stuff with cryptos, you always have to convert to normal money
>XMR a tiny little box despite being the best of them all
>>488121605the bubble is just getting biggerthousands of crypto curencies worth millions and billions?makes no sensejust the result of decades of loose money
>>488122173My Russian rust friend told me that if he wanted to buy a studio in st petersburg it would cost him 500k+ in interest for a 40k shitbox and i refused to believe him
>>488122071>no one is going to cash you out in gold and silver.I'm going to, 50% up charge tho
>>488122648He is right, pajeet or not
>>488121991Because Monero is the only real currency that isn't just kike market manipulation.Kikes hate Monero since it's private and they can't control it.It's digital gold as oppose to bitcoin which is just digital Fiat.
>>488122829This nigger is legit evil
>>488121605>cryptojewish pump and dump
>>488121605The Trump Bump.
>>488122536I unironically bought $300 worth before the election.
>>488121605bump. if people haven't learned bitcoin by now, just let them suffer. particularly those who argue against it. literally too stupid to live. it's an IQ test at this point. "do you want bitcoin if you don't have any already?" it the answer is "no" that person is clinically retarded
>>488122992For most of them except Monero.Monero's exchanges rarely if ever flactuate.
>>488123078We’re about to hit 90k
>>488121991Bc its only a transfer currency. Also it cannot be manipulated bc no one can trace the flows. Thus it is the best stablecoin.
>>488121605The chances of WW3 are increasing, so fiat currencies are in trouble
>>488121605$89k!!!!!!!!!!I'm not sleeping for the next few days.I have money there and also in a crypto miner $MARA. I'm starting 2025 rich as fuck.
>>488122889crypto produces nothingand is nothingthats why its so easy to inflate the price
>>488123035Jews waited till they managed to get orange kike into power to start pumping and dumping.
>>488121605They're literally going to crash crypto, and thus the stock market because for some reason all the indices now TRAIL crypto lol.
>>488123078>do you want bitcoin if you don't have any already?"I want it, I am just not paying for it, since I know that it's just a black rock pump and dump scheme.
So many salty subversive bastards on this thread
>>488122798>The whole point is to replace the dollar with BTC.Lmao. This may only happen after WW4
>>488121605It is fucking pumpingNiceHad been in the red for a couple years but never pulled out and finally hit the green in the past weekFeels Good Bros
>>488122180>years of shitting on crypto and calling it worthless>suddenly the world's largest asset managers put trillions of dollars into it>he's still calling it worthlessyou were supposed to buy BEFORE the billionaires did anon
>>488123251The opposite will happen. Crypto will grow. Mass defection from USD which is basically a shitcoin with worse security than crypto.
>>488122798shit that would be unfathomably awesome. we need the idiots to stop trading and pump&dumping though, they're fucking it upi wonder if there's a way to get traders to fuck off and leave crypto for people who seriously believe in it as money for the futurewhenever i lose the job that i have, i will do my best to find one that pays in crypto, dk if that's realistic for a programmer. but i think the best way to truly support crypto is to replace fiat with it, not to pump&dump and trade like these idiots> to the moon bro! we'll be rich!jfl i wonder if they even know that it is supposed to be a currency
>>488122536Not trolling. Took a gamble and caught the falling knife. The timing is great though, had quite a few tragedies happen in my life recently and money has become a real concern. Glad I refused to sell, even if I break even all of my money worries are over. This combined with the Trump victory... Christmas came early in 2024.
>>488123274
>>488123251We are headed towards a 2008 type recession, thanks to Trump's money printing during Covid.Only Gold is safe now.
Just opened a 20x short
>>488121991I think it's inflationary, it has utility but seems to act like a stable coin and people use it to arbitrage out of other currencies so they can take advantage of monero's anonymity without actually holding, might use it myself to park bitcoin gains and I have a feeling it might pump when a lot of bagholders want to dump
>>488121605The post-halving run has been derisked.
>>488123251>for some reason all the indices now TRAIL cryptoYou can thank people treating it like stocks for that. ETFs and individuals slurping up satoshis and shorting whenever they can because it's easier and more legal to manipulate than the actual market.
>>488123328It's a basic pump and dump scheme.It's still worthless.
>>488121605FUCKK! I have seen BitCoin and other coins go up and up in value over the years and had the chance to buy in repeatedly. I even thought about making a rig some 10-11 years ago to mine coin. Why the fuck didn't I do it, bros?
>>488123406So if it moves up by 5% you're liquidated. You're fucking lying.
>>488123170you’re only rich if you sell. do you understand the concept of a market cap? do you understand why elon musk used tesla stock as collateral to borrow money to buy twitter instead of just selling stock to buy it?
>>488121605>XMR under Memes And Internet CultureDon't even think about ordering dank memes
it’s been over a decade and bitcoin still has no use.
>>488121605Sign of institutional bullishness, followed by retracement to 75k and retest, followed by breakout or retest f 60k
>>488121605Yes
>>488123398>Only Gold is safe now>nowNigga gold and silver have been the only safe options for thousands of years.
>>488122488>people will exchange actual material of actual practical value for zoomer pretend money after they see boomer pretend money lose all value?
>>488121991>he actually fucking married his shitcoin
>>488123144This
I pray for MOASS
>>488123366Stick to Monero and gold.These are the only hopes we have for escaping Fiat kike slavery.
>>488121991because it's the only coin people treat with any form of respect since it's actually untraceable
>>488123566it’s true. land stopped being safe when they introduced property taxes
>>488122071>bitcoin is valued in fiateverything is valued in everything, you can value crypto in bigmacs if you like and if fact everytime you purchase something you are accepting value compared to whatever you're buying, bitcoin is deflationary and has utility tht nothing else has, try transporting a million in gold across borders
>>488123566Not really, the USD used to be quite stable, once upon a time, but no more.
>>488123346>Crypto will grow.Crypto is a glownigger prank.>>488123467Yeah it's quite the shit show, lol. I think it's funny.
>>488123692You really shouldn't waste your breath on that retarded leaf. P.S.: I just sold 1kg of physical gold at the bank today.
>>488123692so you’re saying bitcoin is more valuable than gold because it doesn’t actually exist therefore making it easier to transport?
>>488122957He isn't, bitcoin losing 30% of its value would still be around 50k when blackrock bought in, no coiner. POOR FOREVER.
>>488123665If you pay property taxes, you are paying rent, and you do not actually own your land. That's the sad reality 99% of us live in, because we murdered most of the monarchs and then didn't finish the job.>>488123748>used to be quite stableIt was fine until they started changing how much gold and silver it was pegged to. Which means we've been fucked for a hundred years.
GENTLEMENJUST IN: #Bitcoin surpasses silver to become the 8th largest asset in the world.
>>488123692Shitcoin is just digital Fiat.Hell, even the USD has the same utility as Shitcoin.Monero is the only way out of this, tbqh.
>>488123835>gold hits new highs every other day for two months>spends a week going down>I sold a kilo today>that leaf is a retardkek
>>488121605BUY BUY BUY BUY IT'S GOING TO POOOOOOOOOMP TO 100K
>>488123366I agree with you. Which is why I just stack BTC and use it as money whenever I can.
>>488123868in canada you can’t even own land. you can only purchase an economic interest in it. all land in canada belongs to the british monarchy. canada is not a real country.
>>488123868The monarchs weren't the problem, it's the court jews who took over after the death of feudalism that led to financial slavery at the scale we are witnessing.
>>488121972based leaf
>>488121913>>488121751BTC has never gone below its election day price. You missed the train.
>>488121605the inevitable rug pull when the tulip market crashes is going to be biblical
>>488121605Donald Trump floated the removal of capital gains taxes from cryptoBitcoin trading funds TeslaElon is pumping all his liquid assets into BTC to create momentum under the guise of a natural bull run spurred by the election results
>>488121605$BTBT is a stock from a crypto miner. Is still cheap at $5 but could pump on BTC hype. Just a heads up if you want to make a quick buck. It has potential for a $10-20 run. Also don't use money you can't afford to lose and don't hold for too long.
>>488124027And you can't buy physical gold in many places in Europe, anymore, you can only buy a piece of paper that says you have x amount of gold at the bank.It's BS.
>>488121605pomp
>one bitcoin shill thread ends>another begins right afterI am once again asking the JanniesWhy are Bitcoin shill threads allowed to push their bags onto people, while /setf/ threads are pruned on sight?
>>488123841why is gold valuable? Does it even matter if the gold in the banks actually exists or not if all it does is sit there for decades, all value is based upon belief and just because something isn't shiney doesn't mean it doesn't have value, you might think of bitcoin as a battery that stores energy, the battery itself has no value but the energy it holds does
>>488123512Bro there are a billion top signals, im just smart
>>488123953Zoom out.Also, you know literally nothing about me or the circumstances of my sale, so get fucked.
>>488124027We are beholden to a private entity, the Federal Reserve, so we're not much better.>>488124034That's what I mean, albeit poorly worded on my part. Overthrew the royalists, kept the caste system. Barely above pajeet tier
>>488124166>this time is different>you don’t understand the fundamentals
>>488123917>Hell, even the USD has the same utility as Shitcoinfalse, it's inflationary and subject to all kinds of counterparty risk
>>488124009based
>>488123366It'll keep pumping up until it stabilizes.Everyone focuses on the dump, but it always pumps higher and higher.The volatility isn't good for small businesses and the regulatory clarity is the nail in the coffin for trying to convince them to accept it.The only businesses that accept BTC near me do it through clover point of sale and use strike app to accept lightning. The meta currently is to have a ratio of dollars to BTC so you don't get wrecked and still benefit from the pumps. There's an idea I've thought about for years that could be the new fiat, but it's pretty far off from being an actual thing.It's basically Henry Ford's energy currency where everything locally is backed by kWh and then BTC is the global currency to trade between different regions. I think that's the holy grail to wrapping this all together, but it's a long ways away.
>>488124240>why is gold valuable?it's a tangible asset with no counterparty risk with a multitude of real world applications
Does anyone (aside from the plebs) actually work to earn the shekels?It feels like the people making the most money are the ones who don't work at all, they just play the stock market, pump the shitcoin or whatever.
>>488124240but bitcoin isn’t stored energy. it’s a receipt for expended energy. what good is a receipt of something already spent?
>>488122414I thought the singularity was supposed to hyperdeflationary by essentially reducing the cost of goods to zero. No labor costs, infinite free energy and resources for everyone.
>>488123406way to go broke retard
>>488124220>>one bitcoin shill thread ends>>another begins right afterI mean...have you seen /pol/ lately? Or just 4chan as a whole? Anything that's not about tits or ass or trannies or twitter or reddit is an improvement at this point.
Precious metals are superior>Don't rely on the power grid>Don't rely on the internet>Don't rely on technological infrastructure.>Don't rely on a handful of tech companies>Solar storm proof>EMP proof>Power outage proof
>>488124495A continuous ledger that can't be corrupted by jews is really the point of it all.
>>488124250the entire world is beheld to that entity. at least your country gets to buy everyone else’s resources and labour for free
>>488124574haven’t they already reset it several times?
>>488124240It has all the features needed to qualify as money.And it has been used as money for CENTURIES by almost every human civilization.
>>488123406The Big Short movie is about a guy who made $800 million by shorting the stock marketMichael Saylor has made $11 billion buying bitcoin
>>488124486rich people live off the interest or rent of their investments and work for pleasure.
>>488124624nope
>>488124544bagholder threads are /pol/ are a top signal newfag
>>488124691they didn’t short the stock market, they shorted the housing market. stop giving financial advice
>>488121605kikes finding a place to dump the dollar
>>488124713pretty sure there was some fuckery with it 10 years ago
>>488124398but how do we know it won't keep dumping after it stabilizes?most people hold it for profit. so when it's stabilized for a while with no pumps, they will sell. then it will keep dumpingi have no problem with that, i will still believe in it even if that happens. the only problem would be if that happens and then there's not enough volume to buy and sell because people stop wanting it. that could end it tb h
>>488123868>If you pay property taxes, you are paying rent, and you do not actually own your land. That's the sad reality 99% of us live in, because we murdered most of the monarchs and then didn't finish the job.Very strange comment by you. I don't know how you think property tax is a norm nor how you connect it to monarchs. In the U.K. we don't have property tax, and, besides some short-lived exceptions, such as 1600s hearth tax, which were functionally property tax but still not a property tax, there's never really been a tax in the U.K. on owning land and home.In the U.K. we have Stamp Duty, where you pay tax on a purchase, which is basically a fee for the processing of ownership, and you pay tax to the local council for services, but you don't pay a tax on owning a home, that would be absurd. Very strange that it came about in the U.S., as U.S. is simply a continuation of English constitution and political system, yet somehow they came up with something as grotesque as PAYING TAX ON OWNING A HOME?? ... ????There's also technical stuff in the U.K. when it comes to owning property that are quite impressive, such as - if you're a Freeholder and not on a Lease - you don't just own the home and the land, but you own it down to the centre of the earth. And if they discovered the rarest most valuable thing in the world was under your house, no way anyone could ever take it from you. And this is directly connected to the nature of monarchy, especially the nature of a Monarch as full-on full deal like English Monarchy with all the ritual (which is why William i so wanted the English crown, because the only other one like it was the French King, where the English King and French King are basically a god on earth) and the way property ownership works in the U.K. you're partly a part of that, so your ownership of your house is like a divine deal that no government or institution can every say shit about, if there's a UFO below your house you own it like a god.
>>488121605Foreign countries are washing money now that they know trump is in office.Moving bitcoin and crypto around to get past future sanctions and "tariffs".
buy before it's too late! don't miss out!
>>488124108It hasn't even been a week
>>488124495I go to work for an hour and I get paid ten dollars, now I don't need that ten dollars right now so I buy bitcoin, that ten dollars represented an hour of my energy which is now represented by bitcoin, when I want to release that energy I exchange my bitcoin either directly for somone else's hour of labour or by that time that worker may be happy to accept bitcoin and skip the exchange stage, I have effectively used my energy to create value and have stored it until I want to release it again and moreso I have stored that value/energy in a frictionless way and with no counterparty risk
>>488124398BTC will be the underlying asset that backs the US digital dollar of the future. XRP will be the medium of exchange for international settlement and will be pegged to the price of BTC. Chainlink will connect it all together. It's literally all coming together in slow motion.
>>488121605blackrock
>>488124882In the United Kingdom, both on paper and in practice, all land, assets and currency are owned by the Monarchy. The fact that we pay property taxes is not the root issue.
>>488125005they don't want to have anything back the USD bc then they would have to stop printing it for free moneythey in fact forced people to stop using gold. but with bitcoin they couldn't do anything about it
>>488124976imagine spending all this effort telling people you don’t understand the difference between stored energy and stored value
>>488124870In the early days 10+ years ago there was some issue, but we're talking a marketcap in the millions? maybe smaller? A dev found a bug that could inflate the supply, notified the other devs, and they fixed it with a fork if I remember it right. It's not the same as what ETH did calling on exchanges to stop trading and rollback the exchange because someone lost some money on DAO app. My original point was a continuous ledger where they can't add 1 trillion for Ukraine, 1 trillion for Israel, 1 trillion for blacks, etc.
>>488121605RYAN COHEN DO SOMETHING. ANYTHING!!!
>>488124777nigger the top is a way off and will break 100k, likely in the next week and the topside is impossible to predict which is why a leveraged short is a dumb idea
>>488125116The paradigm has shifted with the recent election. We are now getting the good ending where fiat dies.
>>488121991Because you can't buy it easily because most exchanges don't wanna touch it because it's completely anonymous.It's the best of them all because you can actually use it to buy illegal shit.
>>488124356>inflationarySame for BTC, you can pump BTC value and lower it artifically via pump and dump schemes, which is why black rock is heavily invested in it.Futhremore, BTC requires a large Fiat investment in order to mine it, as the equipment is quite expensive, same does not apply to Monero
>>488125166having a limited number of something doesn’t give it value. I can only create so many liters of piss in my life. doesn’t make it valuable.
>>488121605read the great taking>>488121751based knower
People are letting off fireworks outsideAnd the milkyway is visible
>>488123366>>488122798so why would the federal reserve, which is nothing but a private organization of jews, give up the literal world reserve currency, ie the dollar, in favor of buttcoin? the only possible way that would EVER occur is if the fed merely owned more of buttcoin than they do of dollars. are you willing to tell me, right now, you believe that's true? that the jews that own the fed, literally MAKE the dollars that are loaned to our government that are then sold for *actual* goods around the world, are you willing to admit they own MORE of buttcoin than they do of the share of US dollars? absolutely no one who owns/shills buttcoin will admit this, but it's obvious that is MUST be true for your "buttcoin takeover" fantasy. the ONLY way that happens is if it's revealed that the overwhelming majority of buttcoin owners have been the same jews who already own everything. and then what was it for?
>>488125206/pol/ is full of poorfags, shill you digital money to reddit.
>>488124879Because mining is a put option on electricity, and users and activity on the chain keep growing. So there will be more and more miners as it spreads its idea like a mycelium into the electric grid. The math behind the put option on electricity is really interesting.Basically you have to have $0.05 kWh electricity to mine, this replaces the cantillon effect from the Fed/congress fags to powerplant operators providing a service.
>>488121605>Trump>FTX lawsuit winners receiving 16 BILLION USDC>Mt. Gox done dumping>Germany done dumping>ETFs buying>china injecting liquidity>US about to brrrrrr>US was already brrrrrrr in the background>entire world about to brrrrrrrrr
>>488121605they're locking in fomo apes to hold heavy bags for the next few years >>488121751yep mfw
>>488125362You're not worth my reply with a response that retarded.
>>488122638>Pumps to 80k>Dumps to 40kDamn you FUDggots still aren't sending your best
>>4881220711. Monero is valued in cocaine2. BTC is valued in Monero3. Therefore BTC is valued in cocaineQED
>>488121605And i used to buy tf2 hats for thousands of BTC, strange feeling to know that i used to trade what is now worth billions.
>>488124108That’s like what? 4 data points? Not saying you’re wrong but that’s not really that solid when you think about it.
>>488125005Xrp is the only interesting crypto
>>488124560Yep, but you still need shit like monero to engage in long range transactions.Get both.
>>488125421I am telling you that The Fed as you know it is ending. The paradigm as you know it is shifting.
>>488125247idki didnt see trump tell the military to stop the blm rioters, or do anything about fiat money
>>488125346the efficiency of crypto is far greater than the legacy financial system so the energy usage criticism isn't pertinent, you don't need an army to guard it no matter how much you have
>>488122638This, it distracts the “goyim” from getting into gold as capital flight continues down exiters pyramid by folks with money still in the fiction banking system.
>>488125588why? how does having a limited number of pretend money make it more valuable than an unlimited number of pretend money? how many satoshis are in a bitcoin? the dollar has lost over 99% of its purchasing power since the creation of the fed. you think there’s a difference between increasing the number of bitcoin or increasing the value of a satoshi to what a bitcoin used to be worth while diminishing the purchasing power of a bitcoin?
>>488124176This. For sure anon, 2025 is going to see a massive bullrun like the one triggered a few years ago by Elon buying in.
>>488125603Its going to 4 digits this time, how does US $5,000 sound to you?
Buy Dogecoin.It was 13 cents before the election. Now it’s at 30 cents. It’s expected to be over $1
>>488121605Retards are playing with their monopoly money.
>>488125858That's a Keynesian vs Austrian economics debate good luck
>>488125750He isn’t meant to know.
it's really sad all this... what started as an idea to emancipate the poor, create sovereignty and take back control over the issuing of currency turned into a blatant scam. >>488125247>We are now getting the good ending where fiat dies.fiat isn't the problem. Who has the power to issue coin is the problem. It is now controlled by anonymous individuals but it should be in the hands of the people. Currency should be a tool to exchange goods and services. It shouldn't be a commodity.
>>488123173That describes every fiat currency.
>>488125112And as a freeholder you are a part of that monarchy. You seem to have a very simplistic paradigm of 'monarchy'. There's all sorts of monarchies, in terms of rule and political position really everything is monarchical, but some things people wouldn't consider monarchs are truly monarchs, such as the POTUS position is identical to 18th century English King, same role and function, that it's elected doesn't change anything - in fact the English Crown is ultimately elected too, originally it was actively elected, that's the ancient tradition, but it's been reasserted over the past millennia it's ultimately elected by the English people - and that's a part of what you miss when you talk in terms of that it's owned by the monarch, as if that means it's not owned by you; the monarch is an expression of you, you are a part of it, it's not something which rules over you. It's a product and part of you, just like the ancient tradition of English Law where Law is something that is a product and possession of the people, and similarly the Crown is a product and possession of the nation; it's not even like you're the children of the monarch, the monarch is the people's baby. And you see this throughout the civil conflicts in England, especially during the Plantegenet dynasty, as they were always trying to portray themselves as being legitimate English Kings and being an organic part of the people. Such as supposedly Richard i, when he was a kid before he became a tyrant and got overthrown, when the violence started during Peasant's Revolt he rides along to the English peasants and says I am your Captain - I am your guy, I am you, your problems are my problems. And full expression of this with Shakespeare's Henry V all the stuff about commoners are my brothers and we bleed together.
>>488125421that is the only real threat to bitcoin, they will likely end up owning it all at some point in the future but the thing is once someone owns it all it becomes worthless
>>488125808Werner didn’t say that.See Edgar Mitchell emails
>>488125776There's going to be a BTC national reserve and Trump has said that there shouldn't be a tax on crypto sine it is real money and not an asset. We are going to the BTC future. We were always going to use blockchain and digital currency btw but the vision under Trump is much better than the other version we were gonna get under Kamala.
>>488125959your money is fake and gay and you can’t defend it.
>>488125362But your litres of leaf piss can be easily replicated.And your leaf piss would be quite difficult to transport.
>>488126017richard ii, not richard i.
>>488126034it's already worthless to me so we're already halfway there
>>488125421no no hold onthe fed is much more than that, because it is ENFORCED. no one else can print their own money and make people take it. when they print money, they are counterfeiting dollars they didn't work fororiginally they had to legally make people stop using gold as currency bc otherwise they wouldn't take itthey would never support bitcoin obviously. not even if they owned all of it. the US dollar is priceless to them because they can print their own money and it is enforced as currencywhat i mean when i say i believe in bitcoin is that people can start using it and replacing it with euros and usd, and the govt can't stop it, or only to an extent. they don't need to know a transaction in BTC has happened. if they have to know then that one can be in fiat.
>>488125443I'm a long term hodler, we've been through this cycle numerous times and I have been telling anons to at least own a litte for nearly ten years
>>488125421Because the dollar is failing thanks to their overprinting.They need a replacement.
>>488126066That's why we have the global put option on electricity defending it. Good luck attacking your own country's infrastructure.
>>488123366Crypto is worse than fiat.Dumbass.
>>488126157I've been telling you for ten years I'm not interested in your tulip scam. Money beyond a certain point is meaningless.
>>488126173>overloading the power grids to transfer ownership of inefficient pretend money is actually a good thingkek
>>488125858Bitcoin is deflationary because there can only ever be 21 million bitcoin tokens
>>488123835Stupid motherfucker.
>>488126157IMO if you don't own any BTC still then you're just hopeless. I used to laugh at maxi's but after all of these years I have become one of them.
>>488123841>so you’re saying bitcoin is more valuable than gold because it doesn’t actually exist therefore making it easier to transport?AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!He was saying just that!
>>488126255really? wow i didnt know that can you explain? you're so high IQ
>>488123078>muh big numberthe time of big butcoin gainz is over.imagine going in at 60k hoping for a 100k pump, a pathetic high risk +40%
>>488126282This is why you're not worthy of my replies. The math of the global put option would put your ideas to rest, but you think they're destroying the grid not insuring it so you'll never get it. You're a waste as a person, not Bitcoin as a unit of value.
>>488126125the great thing about bitcoin is it doesn't care what you think and neither do I. you and I have had this argument many times I feel, I'm still winning and you're still a loser
>>488126459It will break 100k this week and go over 250k by the time Trump takes office.
>>488121605The bullrun finally started.
>>488122140
>>488126543>the bigger they are, the harder they fallthe crash will be epic, people will rope
>>488126483the fact you get so emotional over this shows me you’re not a logical thinker. you basically debate like a woman.
>>488126543delusional
>>488126630>>488126613Evil vibes
>>488122832Monero and Bitcoin supremacy over all the over shitcoins, especially dogshit ETHNo more brother wars.
>>488126681fuck off memeflag, you’re less than a nigger
>>488126633I answered with logic and you replied with >gallons of piss, we'll attack you, you're destroying the gridWhat else is there to say besides you're a lost person.
>>488125806>the efficiency of crypto is far greater than the legacy financial systemThey are about the same in terms of efficiency.Physical money printing doesn't happen anymore, it's all digital nowadays.> so the energy usage criticism isn't pertinentIt's not just energy, it's the cost of equipment.To effectively mine bitcoin, you need some expensive ASIC and a lot of power, this makes it so that the only people capable of effectively mining it are those with a lot of Fiat, same does not apply to Monero, thus bitcoin is simply a mean to transfer jew Fiat wealth to another even shit tier currency.You don't understand the game works, pal.
>>488121991because it's 99% backed by drugsdid something happen in the drug community lately to change the prices?
>Find a coin ran by a bunch of autists making memes based around Traps>They adopt Astolfo as their mascotDare I say, /ourcoin/? >>>/biz/59185083
Bros i'm a no coinerIs it still possible to make a 5-10x in crypto?I need money for a house so i can start pumping out children and school them in the science of antisemitism
>>488126813you didn’t answer with logic tho. nothing you said was logical. you’re trying to defend a valueless non-object. its not even a gilded turd. at least a turd is real and can be used as fertilizer.
>>488126902I've always wanted to throw my lifesavings into a memecoin about homosexuals
>>488122865Yeah crypto will obviously face massive speculation because it's an emerging market but that doesn't mean it's not currency.
>>488121605The Bitcoin halving happened six months ago, and the ETFS are driving up the prices.
>>488126771You’re just another two bit evil dudeIt’s easy to succumb to evil. It’s mainstream. It’s normal. Banal. Mediocre.That’s why you did it.
>>488126820>They are about the same in terms of efficiency.Yeah 500 billion to Ukraine and Israel is really efficient.Currently 1.1 trillion in interest payments on 36 trillion debt. That's real efficient LMAO As opposed to hiring American to build out our electricity grid so they can be rewarded with keeping a ledger secure.
>>488127051fuck off back to r*ddit, pajeet
>>488127051ya but you're gay
>>488126965Join us fren it's been fun
>>488126908its over for you tb h
>>488127110Oh look at him go with his original thoughts!You are unique, special, thoughtful.You don’t just bark like an NPC
>>488126921You don't understand anything I'm saying because you lack the knowledge to grasp it.You're a waster I'm done replying.
>>488121605It will probably run up to $100k, then pull back sharply.
>>488127094>Yeah 500 billion to Ukraine and Israel is really efficient.You can do the same thing with Bitcoin.
>>488126315>there can only ever be 21 million bitcoin tokensWhat about dogecoin?
>>488121605Der Trumpenfuhrer Kommt.
>>488127169sarcasm my indian scammer friend, it's something white people speak.
XMR is shit. Just wanted to get it off my chest.Fuck XMR.
>>488123368Fair, you got lucky, i wouldn't take that strategy again though, i'm wary of these shitcoins.
>>488121991its going to zero.
>>488127288Seethe, Milei lover!I am sticking with XMR.
>>488126908Not short term in BTC. BTC will only go up over the long term. You can gamble on shitcoins but your best bet for a 5-10x is probably something like DOGE but you need to watch the market and get out before the rug pull. 99% of crypto are bullshit scamcoins being pump and dumped by speculators.
>>488127223He’s an organic robot reading off a script
>>488127238Yeah leme get all the nodes to run my new version of BTC called Ukraine war 2.0 where we inflate the supply to kill a million innocent poors so defense contractors and bankers get rich. Nope Bitcoin doesn't work like that bud.
>>488127021halving is a memethis is all election euphoria
>>488127288Hello ETH devil, yo uare going straight to hell with Klaus Schwab
>>488126820>They are about the same in terms of efficiencyridiculous, huge armies and wars and vaults and underground facilities, transport, security, governments, banks, huge workforces, there is no comparison
>>488127327Milei would probably like Monero as far as i'm aware, one of the only politicians in the world that would because he's supoosedly ancap.
>>488127372Well looky here. Somebody misspelt halfing. Seems we have a retard on display. Are you going to dance for us, tard?
>>488127248Dogecoin is like fiat in the sense there is no maximum supply, they can always print more Doge
>>488127223>big daddy government pls protect my energy grid>I can’t spend my buttcoin if the power goes down>pls I need you so muchkek
>>488127270You had me for a minute leaf, day of the rake can't come soon enough.
>>488127372There's going to be a BTC national reserve and a removal of capital gains on crypto. This is everyone getting in position for the real super cycle and hyperbitcoinization. You have until Trump takes office to stack.
>>488121605Everybody has lost their minds
>>488127360You can use your existing BTC to send it over while mining more via your specialized, expensive and energy consuming equipment, the plebs can't mine the way you can, so they are fucked.No wonder black rock is backing BTC.Long live monero.
>>488126426It's worse than fiat because it is sort of a derivative of fiat.You yourself value yout bitcoins only as the fiat it supposedly represents.Fiat at least is based losely on the power of governments and their military to enforce its use.
I regret putting everything in ETH so badly. I should've bought BTC.
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>>488122173I hope an ukrainian missile buries you in Crimeea.
>>488127486think it might be halving tho desu
>>488126908you have to wait until there is a significant crash, 50% or more, then try and time the bottom and then wait 2 to 5 years to cash out, still a 5x minimum but remember you lose if you choose to sell at a lower price so you have to be able to survive for as long as it takes
>>488127637Alts? This isn't 2016 anymore.
>>488127486
>>488127601Monero will never become mainstream because it is simply too based anon.
>>488127223No. You are retarded. The other leaf is correct. Bitcoin, cryptocurrency in general is a meme. Having a decentralized currency with only artificial supply and demand backing it makes it vastly unstable, but further more, extremely easy to abuse. You are literally bartering for something with nothing. The minute that nothing ceases to hold any claimed interest for X reason, you're essentially bankrupt with nothing to show for it. But the debt you accrued if you borrowed money to acquire BTC will be very real, and frankly gold, silver and precious metals means you're going to have something to weigh in favour of your value you accrued.It's basic math.
>>488121605Big crash incoming
>>WTF is habbening?REAL FEAR.
>>488127653Uh oh, he fell for the filter. All the retards are out tonight. What's the occasion?
>>488127712I dunno, holocaust denial is becoming pretty mainstream and it doesn’t get more based than that
>>488127637QNT
It hasn't even begun. https://youtu.be/FXeSrqYp5v0
>>488127607No. I value my BTC as 1 BTC = 1 BTC. You fundamentally misunderstand the issue.
>>488126921>valueless non-objectobjectively false>1 bitcoin = 122018.43 leaf tokens
>>488127601Redpill me on monero.In what is it different / better from bitcoin?
>>488127637>altsXRP and LINK are the only two I would even consider.
>>488127486jeet scammer
>>488127721he doesn’t care about math. he wants to become rich without doing anything beyond buying something and then waiting to be rich because of it. Bitcoin is a financial parasite and human parasites are naturally attracted to it.
>>488127485Milei is a jewish cuck who destroyed his country, ANCAP is a meme of an ideology that is effectively meaningless.
>>488121605Believe it or not, this is a story I have about Ronnie Radke from Escape the Fate and Falling in Reverse. Before he went to prison he was really into drugs, mostly coke and heroin. His band Escape the Fate was on the rise. One night, after doing blow all night, the room was engulfed in a red light. A whispering voice told him he’s going to be famous later in life.He went to prison after, for being involved in a fight that led to someone’s death, he got kick out of his band, and he had trouble after trouble. Then in the last couple of years, he’s exploded. He’s more famous than ever. His tours are selling out, and he’s always in the spotlight. I 100% know he sold his soul to the devil.I don’t like his music or even like him. This guy was a dark and chaotic individual. Most of it, I blame on the drugs, but he had the darkest energy of anyone I’ve seen.
>>488127798This shitcoin is dumping while everything else either holds or pumps. I don't want to be a Quant bagholder bro.
“If we lose cash... and you've only got central bank digital currencies... if they say you can't leave your house more than five miles [and] you try to buy a bottle of water six miles from home, you won't be able to."https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1848620552182808871JUST SAY NO to the Digital Prison – Digital IDs, Digital Currency, Social Credit! It’s a Jewish Communist Satanic Agenda!
This is now a Monero thread.
>>488127437What...?Most Fiat transactions are done digitally nowadays, I don't need an army to fucking transfer 10 dollars from Germany to the US.
>>488127803>You fundamentally misunderstand the issue.You're the one misunderstanding it. Bitcoin is a magic non existent form of digital money which has only any value because people are willing to exchange fiat for it.Back in the day it was said people would be able to buy shit with bitcoin but... you do only so indirectly in a large scale. The attraction of bitcoin is muh fiat.It is vallued at many fiats.
>>488127559the reason I had you is you're an idiot
>>488127893You don’t do labour
>>488127841Actually anonymous and the three-letter-agencies haven't cracked it. Also fast enough and cheap fees. It's one of the very, very few unpozzed coins.
>>488127721Now do the math on the U.S. bond market and tell me how they're going to get out of 36 trillion in debt while paying 1.1 trillion in interest and only making 4 trillion in taxes. Then tell me how they're going to lower interest rates without inflation so the 36+ trillion debt isn't renewed at 4.5%+ The U.S. bond market's interest on debt is set to surpass all the taxes collected within the next 5-10 hears.1 trillion in debt is added every 100 days.It's rising exponentially so that 100 days becomes 90, 80, 70, etc. until we get hyper inflation.Everything with the current system is broken as fuck, and Bitcoin actually works. Fuck going backwards to PM we have digital economies and need assurance those numbers are legit with cryptography.
>>488127893Yup. Get rich scheming like Jews are wont to do
>>488127586too much euphoria... i will buy once it dumps... only an idiot buys now
>>488125904Sounds like beaner mental retardation
>>488127768for several coins it x bitcoin or x bitcoins?
>>488127975How many Link tokens exist? 1 billionHow many XRP Tokens exist? 100 billionHow many QNT tokens exist? 14 million
>>488127712I don't care if it becomes mainstream as long as I can use it at select exchanges and trade parts of it whatever is mainstream, which currently the case, I can trade Monero for any Fiat or bitcoin I want and I can do privately.
>>488128032>anonymous and the three-letter-agenciesyou could have just said jews, but they haven't cracked it because it's theirs, bitcoin was made in a DARPA computer lab.
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>>488128007You are incapable of understanding that things are changing and the old way of doing things is going away. We are not going backwards to PMs. You have been wrong for 10 years and you will continue to be wrong until you wake up and realize that the nature of all things is to change. In a BTC economy 1 BTC is worth 1 BTC. There is no amount in dollars because BTC is the currency.
>>488128051>bitcoin is going to survive the collapse of fiat >trust me bro you’re gonna get bbq’d and eaten by niggers when the power goes out
>>488127823there's dirty cheeto stains all over my screen so i read your post as "leaf foreskins" at first
>>488128051Don't be a fool. You already know the answer. It's spoken for. There's no getting out of that debt without declaring war and attempting to kill the guys who dumped it on them.
>>488128130Fuck it anon I grabbed a bag. When can I expect this shit to pump? March? April?
>>488127841you actually use it to buy products
If you are hmuna and read this say hi
>>488121605I should have invested actual money into this not a few hundred €.
>>488127841> is ASIC-resistant which means basicly anyone can start mining it within a pool or solo, using basic consumner grade computer. > Transaction fees are smalls> Is very privateThese are the main advantages of it.
>>488125271This. It’s basically what Bitcoin was supposed to be. If mf satoshi is still bag holding he’s probably depressed. Filthy fucking rich but sad that his creation has become a pump and dump for elites to sack tap plebs savings that they’re too ready to gamble.
>>488128130What solution does QNT present though? XRP presents a solution to cross border payments and LINK solves the oracle problem. So, what does QNT bring to the table?
>>488128151Yeah, Obama was there too, and then everybody clapped.
>>488128005yes you do because dollar hegemony is backed by the us military, banks and armies are the power in the world and it has been that way for a long time
>>488128151>he doesn't know 4chan runs the world
>>488128130If xrp is ever used it for it's intended purpose it can increase in price far more than any other crypto even with a higher supply
>>488128312Be at one with the elevationDo not force itJust know
>>488128451I take it you think satoshi nakamoto is a real person
>>488128251We went through this 100 years ago not again.I love how these arguments progress.They always start with Bitcoin is for terrorists and criminals and end with you need to support our world war or we'll destroy society and you'll be eaten by niggers.It's unbelievably hilarious to me how Bitcoiners are so correct and everyone else is so disgusting and wrong.
>>488128591Lmfao
>>488128435>satoshi is a real person and not an alphabet agency controlled by israelI’d probably support bitcoin if this was the reality
>>488128005You do not, but the way international payments actually work on the backend isn't that simple. You see the transfer as instant but it takes days or weeks on the backend financial systems to actually validate and credit/debit the appropriate parties. In a crypto economy all transactions are settled near instantly thus cutting out the expensive middlemen that facilitate the exchanging of money.
>>488121605>WTF IS HAPPENING?Promises madePromises kept
>>488127485Kill yourself lolbert. Ancapism doesn't exist.
>>488128592Yeah. Ok. Let's see your subjective artificial currency work out when it goes mainstream. Until my boss starts paying me in BTC I don't give a shit.
a lot of mean anon called me very mean things every time i tried to recommend positioning into crypto for this runoh well - good luck out there !
>>488124273btc is well over tens of thousands of times over it's starting price.Clearly that chart is wildly out of date.
>>488128565Correct. Which is why anyone that has been paying attention owns at least a small stack of XRP.
>>488128445It’s TCPIP of the Finternet Created by the creators of TCPIP (IETF)
>>488121605Don't know don't care for Jewish fake money
>>488128801I gave a shit 10+ years ago and I don't have a boss LOL I hope you don't end up in the meat grinder you've accepted as the eventual outcome.
>>488128750>crypto transfers don’t need to be verified or validated>and that’s a good thingwhy?
>>488124400yeah, cause nobody's ever bought or sold fake gold before. lmfao
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>>488122462>how much would it cost without a war?Krasnodar apartments are on par w/Moscow, same trend as everywhere with rich boomers, so I think more or less the same, plus it's a large naval hub for routes from/to Turkey and Europe, assuming all goes well... I'd wager 300K in ten to fifteen years after the war ends.>also what if it's destroyed or zelesnki takes that landThat's what constitutes the risk part here.
>>488123516In Cyprus they made new laws for property owning by migrants because sp many houses were bought with bitcoin by cryptorich that they feared it could affect the Countrys housing market and demographics if suddenly high numbers of properties are owned by foreigners.So you dont have to sell for fiat, sometimes can you can use it as currency.
>>488128957no one here wants your bags
>>488128957I live in Canada. All I can do is deal with it.
>>488128960are you retarded?
>>488128960What are you even reading to come to the conclusion that they're not verified or validated? The entire point of the blockchain is that everything is verified.
>>488128960You don't understand how any of this works do you? The transactions are validated and verified instantly on chain.
>>488126017America was founded on the principle that our government is by, of, and for the People. In modern practice, that hardly applies, especially as the People have swelled in population in relation to representation. Your nation is similar, the key difference is the literal, written word of law. We are free on paper, and the things we are free from are well delineated. In the UK, on paper, all things stem from, and are bestowed by, the Crown (physical). Furthermore, legally speaking, the office cannot exist without the office-holder - the Crown (governing body) without the Crown (physical) is just a group of posers.Obviously day-to-day we don't notice the President, he's not whispering sweet nothings in our ears, and King Charles isn't knocking on your door asking what's for dinner. But what's on paper matters, because its interpretation is what matters, and is subject to change.
Btw, so long no coiners,https://youtu.be/CUr_UwUUXzU
>>488128445Why are you advising people when you dont even know this? You dont know what you're talking about and just trying to pump BTC. Which is in no way long term safe at all.
>>488123891>JUST IN: #Bitcoin surpasses silver to become the 8th largest asset in the world.BTC literally flipped silverdo u understand what is about to happen in 2025 anon-kun? this is your make it bullrun. focus and profit. save yourself. no one else is coming to save you
>>488127289>i wouldn't take that strategy again thoughIf I had the finances I would be doubling down. I was able to get my position down ~30% from my initial knife drop catch which seems like "digging a deeper hole" but I just saw it as dumping into a fund I would collect on later. Ultimately I knew it wouldn't be a matter of if but of when I would recoup or profit. My main fuckup was trying to day trade for profit. Which I did and it was fun, but if I ever did that again I would make sure I wasn't doing it as a side job, I would put all of my focus into it. That and not following my gut instinct. I saw Doge when it was fractions of a penny and just kept talking myself out of it. If I would have gone with my gut feeling and dumped what I eventually did on a falling knife I'd already be retired. I see crypto the same way others here see precious metals. It goes up and it goes down but it is still tied to real world, and just like Grandma never stops talking about getting a candy bar for x pennys in whatever year, nothing ever gets cheaper. Just a matter of when, not if, you sell it for more.
>>488128956>Jewish fake money>The one kind of money jews can't print out or steal.Least illiterate no-coiner.
>>488129231tell that to all the people who sent things to the wrong wallet address. imagine trusting government employees with sending crypto payments to foreign governments that can’t be refunded. no fraud will happen there I’m sure
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>>488127549>$48 BILLION in DOGEthis seems sustainable and is definitely not a hyper speculative bubble
>>488128221>We are not going backwards to PMsPeople are already using PMs as a store of value.> We are not going backwards.That is such a jew talking point, you call everything you don't like old fashioned.PMs actually work unlike Fiat.
>>488129722A crypto can be backed by precious metals and then you get the best of both worlds
>>488127999>bitcoins.comnot even remotely related to bitcoin.This image maker is retarded, and knows nothing about bitcoin.
>>488128592Nobody wants your digital Fiat, rabbi.I am sticking to gold as a store of value and Monero as a mean of exchange.
>>488129798what if I just want the precious metal
>>488129677Market caps for crypto are largely irrelevant.
Sell signal
>>488121605Nigger
I told you all to pile in at 14k BTC a year ago.You all laughed and said I was retarded.Where are you now? Nowhere to be found?Show yourselves.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG7mKcIVvQQKikel Jewish tricks in the Deep State in the Jewish Washington DC and Enemy clandestines are beyond maximum tolerances, we're going to be seeing a trillion new dollars every 78 days now, and you will live to see that number shrink to single digit days.Paper is not money, Gold is not money either because all of it is paper monkeys, a claim on an ounce that's already exclusively promised to a million other people via sodomite check kiting from new york wire fraud financial CDS tranches. All gold is paper gold.