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Total nigger death
Is Putin okay with Ukraine not being de-militarized, the Nazis staying in power, and them joining NATO as long as he gets some rubble with no people and tones of unexploded ordinance in exchange?
WE MUST APPEASE RUSSIA
The Ukraine isn't part of NATO so we don't care.
>>488216317How does this affect me personally?
>>488216317Good. Fuck that ungrateful shit hole let Russia have them.
>>488216317All the land currently occupied by Russia (and much more) was Russian land until Lenin gave it away in 1922 for, according to himself at least, some semblance of Ukrainian nationalism. For most of history there wasn't really a Ukraine at all. Who gives a shit if it goes back to Russia?
>>488216317>Rubio to grant Ukrainian land to RussiaDisagree, the Czechs should keep the Sudetenland fortified
>>488216317its not a fucking "deadlock" or "Frozen conflict" Russia is stomping ukraine like a bug, using artillery warfare, which is inherently a slow "block-by-block" tacticafter the kursk kikery, Russia can and will pursue this war untill the goals it sets are achieved
Why not just get rid of Ukraine? Give the western part to Poland so they can border Russia.
>>488216462>WE MUST APPEASE RUSSIAor dont, and ukraine can end up like this across its entire nation
>>488217293>Russia can and will pursue this war untill the goals it sets are achievedare you sure this is where you want to take this>The Grand Alliance of Terrans, Orions, Gorm and Ophiuchi has suffered a catastrophic defeat at the hands of the Bugs during the Pesthouse Campaign. Many senior military commanders have been lost, along with the bulk of the Terran Federation pre-war fleet. The Bugs appear unstoppable and fight their way toward Federation space, reaching the key system of Alpha Centauri before they are narrowly repulsed. Now, with the war once more at a stalemate, the Grand Alliance must try to recover their losses and break the deadlock.>Unable to communicate or negotiate with the Bugs, the Alliance realises that the war has become a fight for the survival of their respective species and invoke Directive 18, last used against the Rigelians, and embark upon a war of species extermination.
they pipesmoking us secetary generals on some funky shit
>>488216317Except there is no negotiating table. There is Russia's terms and ukrainians adherence to them. Those have been laid out for a long time now.
That's weird as this is who trump is picking as his national security advisor. I guess putin will have to agree to whatever terms trump sets.
>>488217646russian secret police are like special needs children, they cry when you break their bones
who?who the fuck cares?ziggers so desperate they're reposting some literally whos now kek
>>488217824>Allow ukraine to strike further into Russia What's the deal with this retarded talking point? Ukraine already lobs crap into Russian airspace all the time, they even tried sending a ground force into Kursk. Is the average American just unaware of this?
Ukraine will agree to a peace agreement once the funds are cut, everything else is just posturing. Giving them permission to strike in Russia and them declaring they want nuclear weapons doesn't change anything about the war.
>>488218183its just a talking point to make it seem like Ukraine would be winning if not for being restrained
>>488216317So how do we see this turning out anons? I personally think we'll see a full blown North/South partition with Rump Ukraine landlocked and destroyed.
>>488216534Russia will invade the rest of Europe then invade all of the US. Making all Americans slaves to Putin. This is a big deal. Ukraine must win to save democracy.
>>488216462When the alternative is nuclear war and the end of human civilization, then yes we should be trying to appease Russia and any other regional powers that have nuclear weapons.
>>488216317of course ukraine will have to cede land to russia. how else would it work? russia already controls that land and ukraine cannot take it back.that's simply what happens when you pick a fight and then lose it. look at germany's borders before and after ww2
>>488218277That's kind of it.War reporting is always disinformation, there's never any truth unless you read heavily in between the lines. The fog of war has been thick for 2 years now.
>>488218576Russia has no working nuclear weapons.
>>488218183Ture but we don't allow them to use are missiles to do it as of this moment.
>>488218576>WE MUST APPEASE CHINA>WE MUST APPEASE ISREAL
>>488218183They are not allowed to use western weapons to strike though. They've only been using domestic drones.
>>488217824There’s a lot of doom posting about Trump’s cabinet but many of his picks are simple good cop bad cop.>Well Mr Pootin, you can have this friendly guy, or you can have this total psycho. It all depends on how we get along, and how much I win at the negotiation table.
>>488218620NOT MY WARS, NOT MY PROBLEMS, VOTING FOR SAHRA 2025.
>>488217824It won't matter when Republicans won't vote to give Ukraine anymore aid. Russia will then be free to take Kiev.
>>488218680Russia has literally thousands of nuclear warheads. If even a few hundred are functional it would be over. >>488218762If it means preventing WW3 then yes.
>>488218805They entered Kursk with Bradleys and HIMARs.
>>488218620Yep.Possession is 9/10ths of ownership.There is no path for Ukrainian victory, they aren't getting that land back. The only way is through direct US/NATO intervention, that would be a very bloody, horrible conflict on top of an already bad one.Just remember, the people advocating for the continuation of the war actually just want you to die in Ukraine.
>>488216462In the context, absolutely. Thanks, neocons/neolibs! Your nation building and regime change operations definitely did produce horrific blowback and you will pay for the current state our nation is in! Some of you should legit be arrested.
>>488216459They will have a DMZ of 100 miles, which is a larg improvement to him given that the US was setting up bio-labs in the area since 2012.It will still be "Ukraine's" but won't matter because all the bases and shit will be gone.
>>488218805You mean western weapons like HIMARS and Storm Shadows and ATACMS and SCALP? They've been using those since 2023
>>488219114>Just remember, the people advocating for the continuation of the war actually just want you to die in Ukraine.This plus more money for the military industrial complex.
Not my problem.Fuck uc*rineFuck ucringians.Who the fuck are you and why did the world change because of you, fuck off and die.They need to pay for all the handouts they got and all we lost because of them.
>>488219086Storm Shadow, Scalp, ATACAMS, F16 are not to be used in Russia. These could help a lot with long range aviation, destruction of russian drone factories. But Ukies are not allowed due to "escalation" fears.
>>488217824>>488218878It's almost a speak softly but carry a big stick approach, it's just so slanted to Israel it's hard to be excited about it.
>>488216462This was the prediction from anons who weren't retarded /k/ikes and nafo trannies. The war will end with an agreement that nobody likes, but it will establish a DMZ between what's left of Ukraine and what Russia has captured. If you want to blame anyone for this, blame the CIA.inb4>stupid ziggerThis is why you retards lost the election.
>>488216317The Ukrainians had their chance to get their land back, they couldn't do it.We, and the euros, can't keep funding this shit forever.Congratulations to Russia for their glorious victory.If you can call turning into North Korea a victory.
>>488220625>We, and the euros, can't keep funding this shit forever.your military budget is less now than pre-war
>>488219003>If it means preventing WW3 then yes.Ok, fine, I'll come to your house and fuck your wife and threaten to call Putin and tell him to start a nuclear war if you try to attack me or get in my way. You don't want WW3, so you'll listen to me and let me rape her while you watch.
>>488220625>If you can call turning into North Korea a victoryIt absolutely is.
>>488220896Seethe kike. That land was always Russian.
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>>488218620>how else would it work? russia already controls that land and ukraine cannot take it back.Does this principle apply to Kursk oblast as well? Ukraine already controls that land and Putin cannot take it back, even with the Nork troops. Should we just forget about Sudzha then?
>>488221004You will never be White Canadian, Sanjit
>>488221234Russia has been actively pushing Ukraine out of Kursk lol
>>488221546Seething yid still seething you lost Russia won deal with it
>>488221638Hit the nerve, Jamesh?
>>488221234ass faggot retard /k/ike^ukraine can attempt to control kursk for as long as it can, same as Russia is doing and (did) for the annexxed statesits fucking hilarious you actually believe kursk is now a part of ukraine, it truly isukraines future is to be totally and completely dismantled to preclude, with finality, anything like this ever happening again
>>488221926lmfao seething /k/ike bot spotted
>>488218398It is factually impossible to invade the continental US. People don't realize that through geography alone it is the most invasion hardened continent on Earth, much less the military assets every few miles.
>>488221555>>488222019Ukraine took Kursk at discount and they're selling it back to Russia at full price
israel will never reach the litani riverukraine will never ever have its 1991 borders/k/ikes simultaneously defeated in all spheres of influence, all at oncenothing can stop or reverse this fact, nothing
>the shitkraine kike seethe itt
>>488222093>It is factually impossible to invade the continental US.It is my firmly held opinion that Carthage was destroyed by Carthaginian senate, not by Roman armies.
>>488217861>>488217861>>488217861who?who the fuck cares?ziggers so desperate they're reposting some literally whos now kek
>>488222222Checked
>>488222222gem
>>488216317>hard core Ukrainian nationalistHe is a soros funded cocksucker. I don't have other "nationalists" for you.
>>488222222checked Hans
>>488216317As I said Rubio is probably the least worst of the swamp creatures >>488217824President gets the final say on a lot of foreign policy
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>>488218398Russia doesn't even have the logistical supply lines to fight the country next to them. What level of retard are you? We have more civilian owned guns than their population. How would they arrive here and not get peppered to death from bullets?
>>488222145>selling it back to Russia at full priceAHHAAHHAHAHERE IS THE PRICE!>webm relatedHAHHAAHAHNO REFUNDS!
>>488222222Kill yourself sandnigger
>>488216317What is so bad about this? You fags want more people to die to feed the soul trap or what? Get over yourselves, this needs to end
>>488216317Might is right. You're the rightful owner if you can take it and hold onto it. If not, you can pay people to cry about it on 4chan.
>>488222921I'm white you seething subhuman kikefuck
>>488222222CheckedPorkraine will lose
>>488223176>I'm whiteme too bro!
Europeans don't care about Ukraine.
>>488223028>Might is right. You're the rightful owner if you can take it and hold onto it.its funny how people who say this never attach their own name and address to the message
>>488223395Jews aren't white 109 times kike rat
>>488216317I don't know why this is a surprise. Russia's not going anywhere and NATO won't directly go to war with Russia over Ukraine. So negotiating is the only way out or else it will just be a conflict that goes on indefinitely.
>>488216317people still care about the ukraine? crazy to be honest. i thought all the rage was israel again
>>488223518It's funny how people who cry about people not doxxing themselves will also not doxx themselves Curious
>>488223518Prove him wrong.How is Ukraine going to get its eastern land back?
>>488223518>its funny how people who say this never attach their own name and address to the messagepost yours with a time stamped picture first faggot /k/ike
>>488223666yeah but I was not the one saying they have a place full of stuff free for taking somewhere
>>488222222>R-r-russian bot! Checked and kek'd.
>>488223601>it will just be a conflict that goes on indefinitely.no it wont, eventually every last ukrainian willing (or capable) of holding a gun will be killed, then it will endthis is the ending ukraine is actively choosing too
>>488223782coward /k/ike
>>488221234>and Putin cannot take it backkek
>>488223926i see you mordechai
>>488216317bazed
>>488216462Russia is right in their demands
>>488223782That's a big rhetorical stretch there
>>488224034If power doesn't take primacy in geopolitics, how is Ukraine going to take back the eastern lands?
>>488223016I am a Russophile. I love Russia and regard the conquest of Ukraine as a wonderful thing.
>>488224149first say believe might is right and if you can take it its yoursthen refuses to tell where their stuff iswhat a bitch
>>488224034>i see you mordechaiwe can highlight your posts you faggot /k/ikeyoure not on /k/you have an IDeveryone can see what you post
>>488224271so post your location and a picture+timestampshow us how strong you are
>>488224286you're so jewish you're probably related to sacha baron cohen
>>488224271Why aren't you fighting for Ukraine?
europe can persist even if rubio balks
>>488219589 They just need to get The Ghost of Kiev out of retirement and back in his MiG. Slava Linguine!
Anyone with a fraction of a functioning brain knows that at least Donetsk and Luhansk are going to Russia.
>>488223870Sorry, should have clarified "indefinitely" up to the point of absolute attrition. That will still take some time, so no matter which way you slice it, this will keep going for years without negotiation. If the funding was cut today, you would see Ukraine come to the table pretty damn fast.
>>488224410I am busy making borderline terroristic threats to government to make them understand how big the need for heavy weapons is
>>488224554forgot image
>>488216462I'd rather let Russia have the whole country but a compromise deal will do.
>>488224431Europe is already destroying their industries even with America funding half the war, it will be a catastrophe
Ukraine needs fresh troops from outside Ukraine.
>>488222222checked and keked
>>488224702thats not the problemthe problem there is no political decision to even begin planning building that capacity
>>488216317What the fuck do these faggots want? Most of Eastern Ukraine would simply undertake a protracted insurgency even if Russia left and provided no assistance. This is the biggest fucking glow-op since the GWOT.
>trump has not said he will pull troops out of Poland that Biden put there>is going to appoint a warhawk to the nsa that wants to go after China and let Ukraine use long range missiles inside Russia>has already told putin to not escalate furtherHow will the ziggers cope next year when trump won't cuck to putin?
>>488218183It means theyll finally unleash the NATO wunderwaffe and destroy putler
>>488224718US should give them weapons, Germans should start slave labor weapons factories to atone for their fucking sins
>>488218183It's their last cope. They don't even have enough munitions to strike at the russian army in Ukraine enough. "Allowing" strikes into Russia would mean a few missiles aimed at infrastructure for PR reasons - missiles which would be better spent against the russian armed forces, but Ukraine/the west puts too much emphasis on propaganda/looks over actually winning.
It's hypocritical to say that Ukraine is defending all of Europe (said by many European leaders), but none want to put their own troops on the frontline or send a relief force.
>>488218183There is still a Ukrainian ground force in Kursk
>>488216317It’s so over for Pooland lol
>>488222222>digits
>>488224466>this will keep going for yearsliterally no it will notthe instant the foreign influence and funds endswithin 48hrs its>Pic relatedall over again>>488224718ukraine already burned through like 18k poles and God knows how many retard mercenaries
>>488225107Other European countries no longer even have troops. Europe is totally cucked and has no military left.
>>488224923>Most of Eastern ukraine would simply undertake a protracted insurgencyAHHAHHAAHHAHno, no they wont bethat outcome is never happening eitherthere will be nothing but regret, tears and suicide after the warnothing is coming to ukraine but the biggest mind-shattering experience of 'zrada' ever
>>488216317Sounds reasonable to me.Might makes right and russia isn't going to give it back.Sucks to be ukraine.
>>488222222Kek has spoken
>>488225159>There is still a ukrainian ground force in Kurskyup, roughly 19k of them pushing up Russian dirt nowbut yah, hey, ukrindians will capture the nuclear power plant any day now!
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>>488219317Who will enforce the DMZ?
>>488216317Anyone who thinks Russia should just give up their rightful clay to appease the brutal dictator Zelensky is literally insane. Putin and the Separatists have been controlling that swath of land long before Zelensker ever came to power. So it is there's.
>>488225402This largely intentional because it keeps the US dominating Europe as they have since WW2.The US decides what demonination Europe trades in and who they can trade with.Eventually this arrangement has to collapse because the US' ability to project force and dominance over the world is dininishing, this is raising the need for Europe to be more autonomous.
>>488224271That's pilpul worthy of the head rabbi of Prague, defending the notion of master morality does not logically entail that one must also purposedly give away his weaknesses to prove the point
>>488224554>the need for heavy weaponsHey - we sell those! The best heavy weapons. The greatest!
>>488224554Ah yeah bro.
>>488216317For free? Damn, maybe that Russia guy could share with me or something...
>>488226566what are you trying to say?
>>488226711I'm saying you're a big ol faggot like Ryan.
>>488216317He's absolutely correct in what he says, just hope he follows through. And doesn't invade Iran for any reason
>>488226790Ryan seems very tired and missing critical information I could have given him
>>488219317And you can provide evidence of these biolabs and them being used for nefarious purposes.In before it turns out to be some hospital pathology lab, again.
>>488227162>And you can provide evidence of these biolabs and them being used for nefarious purposes.I have tracked down the source of the biolab claims, its from a novel that was published in 2014 within 30 days of Azov Battalion being formed>Earth's Final War was the last great armed conflict fought by humans on their home planet of Earth.>In the late first millennium of the Diaspora of Man, the Slav Supremacists of Ukraine decided to create a superior human.
>>488222093>It is factually impossible to invade the continental UStell that to the spics
>>488216317The US is finished on the world stage. Surrendering to Russia is unforgivable. The lowest point in US history.
>>488227162We know there were labs.Nuland let that slip, their purpose isn't publicized.
>>488222222Checked and based!Ukraine is Russia!Z
>>488227396So no, you can't provide evidence there are labs used for nefarious purposes. Thanks for playing, you lose.
>>488227714I have another on-topic reading recommendation>The Last Centurion is a memoir of one possible future, a world that is a darkling mirror of our own.>DEDICATION:>To everyone who has ever felt they were looking out over Hadrian's Wall while Rome crumbled behind them.the author is an ex-paratrooper with a biology degree and in this 2008 published book of his he tells a story which main plot points include a pandemic spreading out from China in 2019 as well as the protagonist properly destroying an equipment depot hes in charge of on pullout from middle-east to prevent weapons from falling into enemy handsthe book is reportedly inspired by SARS outbreak, official name of covid is SARS-CoV-2
>>488227888>I don't want to have Alzheimers at 40! Besides, most flu vaccines don't even work!
>>488216317We don't care lol, Ukraine's frontline is crumbling and they're mobilizing the draft officers. We'll be in Zaporozhie, Slavyansk and Pavlograd in 2025, total frontline collapse before mid 2026
>>488228907Literally 2 weeks copium. The grind is going to be slow and they still have not reached the bottom of the barrel. They can mount several Kursk tier surprises before its over. And Trump really, truly can pop a nut if we won't agree to his deal and call the "long range = war" bluff.
>>488227946Sounds like literal military "lit" propaganda.
>>488216462But Ukraine really needs out help!
>>488228907>>488229349Both of you deserved to be raped in the asshole in public. Call it a Humiliation ritual.
>>488229349They have tied 30k men in that operation, hohols don't scrape the bottom of the barrel because drafting 18 year olds is the point of no-return, doesn't mean they don't lack reserves. At this point any successful tactical breakthrough can lead to disastrous consequences, I advise you watch south Donetsk direction closely.
>>488218398I dont wanna save democracy. Only white men should vote
YAY PEACE WINS AGAIN I CERTAINLY HOPE ZELENSKYY STAYS SAFE
>>488229349>d Trump really, truly can pop a nut if we won't agree to his deal and call the "long range = war" bluff.lmfao its over for ukraine, and no amount of twitter screencaptures from some literal nobody not named "Trump" will ever change any of it
>troonkraine just nuke it and turn it into a giant water park or something
>>488230145>just nuke it and turn it into a giant water park or somethingThat's literally what I've wanted to do with Tel-Aviv for years...
>>488229349World War 2 went the same way for Russia. A slow slog for years then total breakthrough and absolute victory over Germany.
>>488229746Nah, tying people to poles with bare ass hanging out is in Ukraine, two blocks down.>>488229799>advise you watch south Donetsk direction closelyHyped nothing burger, they will be tied down there very quick. The only active direction is Kurahovo.18-25 are the smallest pool they have. They is more point to drafting women then men from that age category. >>488230012Yes because last time it was his family deciding shit and not neocons niggers stopping him at every turn only to shit talk him in the next election cycle.
>>488216462it's not my problem, i am 6,000 miles away
>>488216462>memeflag>kikeryName a more iconic duo.
>>488216317Hand him a rifle and see how he feels
>>488220112Why wouldn't you want to stop a country from invading into Europe?You would have to literally be a nigger to support war on Europe and white people
>>488230913 It won't be anyone's problem in 20 years because The Ukraine will have effectively disappeared. Russia will own the bits that it wants (maybe they sign a peace deal before they take Odessa). Blackrock will own the rest but the Ukies will vanish as a people. Meeting someone who says that they are Ukrainian in 2045 will be as rare as meeting someone who says that they are Rhodesian is today. It will be total population replacement by Africans, maybe poos as well. Habeeb it.
>>488218620>that's simply what happens when you pick a fight and then lose it.russia invaded ukraine, not the other way around
>>488218183If they get Tomahawks, they will be able to strike Moscow
>>488230792>Yes because last time it was his family deciding shit and not neocons niggers stopping him at every turn only to shit talk him in the next election cycle.unirnoically YES it was his familyyou absolute faggot retarded /k/ike bitch36 days untill your allowance is up
>>488232717then russia can just leave if they are so afraid. They can end this war tomorrow
>>488233277No, you don't get it. Kursk is a minor city, doesn't matter. MOSCOW is the pride of all Russia, that is why all cities pay tax to MOSCOW. If MOSCOW is attacked, Russia can declare war on USA
>>488233662my point still stands
>>488233930Your point is that WWIII is good?
>>488233662Wow does that mean the US can declare war on Russia because Moscow can hit Kyiv?
>>488234234Eastern Europeans, except Russia, started both world wars and now want to start WW3. Eastern European shitholes, except Russia, are little punks who like to start fights that bigger countries end up finishing.
>>488234234russia can end this war tomorrow
>>488234513>Eastern Europeans, started both world warsAustrian-Hungary is eastern Europe? France/England/Germany is eastern Europe?
>>488218576Who gives a shit you pussy
>>488218576This
>>488232332after ukraine kept lobbing mortars into their direction for 8 years
>>488234234he's a retarded pollack who would kill himself if he thought it would upset youthey are as unhinged as 4th wave feminists when it comes to Russia
>>488234625Serbia started WW1 and Poland started WW2.
>>488235875There is 4th wave of feminism?
>>488235875Yes, Pollacks are crazed little dogs that think they can fight Rottweilers.
>>488236265False, Austrian-Hungary niggers started WWI and WWII was started first and foremost by France and England because of the Versailles treaty and second of all by Germany for wanting to expand to the land that isn't theirsIt is always Germanics who start wars, USA being the best proof of that.
Marco Rubio is the definition of "falling upwards". I'm glad he's going to give Ukranda over to Russia. If Ukrainians wanted to really keep their territory they should have mobilized their 18 year olds IMMEDIATELY at the start of the war.>>488217367You are focused on the invalids and I can't get over the shit job they did aligning the drawn door on the building cover sheet with the real door. Triggers the fuck outta me.
>>488233662Moscow was ALREADY attacked. Pic rel.Twice, if you count the recent attack on the ammo dump on the outskirts of the city. The great Monke Putin just decided to not do anything about it. And I say this as a /chug/ regular.>>488233277Russia can't leave. Not before they kill all hohols in hohlandia.
>>488217293>after the kursk kikery30k+ dead for nothing. 40,000 dead was another unofficial estimate of Ukrainian causalities I heard too
>>488236401LOLYou believe in the Jewish version of history
>>488238045Jews always sided with anglos against the slavs. they hate slavs more than anyone else
This was the plan all along.>deplete Ukraine of Urkainians>open Ukraine to mass Jewish immigrationBoth Russia and NATO are in on it.
>>488238248But anon, Russia is not jewish
Didn't Trump say Rubio would NOT be picked for a cabinet position like 3 days ago?
>>488238459All of its oligarchs are.
>>488238600fuck, nvmthat was Pompeo
>>488238600No, he said that about Pompeo and Nikki
