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They do and I'm tired of pretending they're not.
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I wish to encourage every antinatalist to sterilize themselves
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>>488401780
>t. chain of suffering worshipper
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>>488400994
Yes, but only on NIGGERS and other uncivilized peoples, like Pajeets who are literally unable to stop raping and need Sharia Law to stop it.
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>>488403114
All life is suffering. Civilized beings suffer too.
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>>488400994
ideology is a means of manipulation
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>>488400994
You're never going to convince all conscious life on earth let alone in the whole universe to go antinatalist simultaneously, therefore you should have children and focus on giving them the best future you possibly can. The alternative is whites dying out and you having no other option but to be reborn as a jeet wallowing in shit and disease, forever
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>>488403614
We will find some way to destroy the sun
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>>488401081
>>488400994
That's dumb, if humans don't reproduce well just reincarnate as animals and really actually suffer

If we kill all life on earth, we'll just reincarnate as bacteria on an asteroid

There's no escaping this
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>>488404832
You'd have to find a way to destroy reality itself since consciousness is most likely the fundamental basis of existence. Even if every creature everywhere down to microscopic level went extinct, there would still be a pervasive background level of awareness
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>>488400994
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>>488406227
But Samsara created by the Demiurge IS BAD. THOUGHBEIT.
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You never convince everyone to stop having children.
Your on this ride forever bucko, start fighting stop screaming
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>>488400994
>>488401886
>>488403299
>>488404832
At the end of this century you will be extinct and I will live on through my descendants.
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I'm a nihilist with sadist tendencies. I have 7 children and another on the way.
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>>488400994
You don't have to stop breeding to learn from mistakes. Although, humans are born ignorant and they might all go through the same stages and there's really nothing history can do to stop people who "don't care about the inconvenient truth" so maybe humans do deserve extinction. If they refuse to do what's right because they would rather butt fuck and do drugs then fuck em to death.
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>>488400994
Problem with your theory is thst it doesnt see the FULL big picture.
You see, only as a human you get a good chance to escape chain of suffering. If we all died unenlightened and no more humans, we would just prolongue our suffering chain as we would be reincarnated in more instinctual beings.
Antinatalism is superficial and easy way out that aftually isnt way out.
Real work. Its much harded. Much more dedicated. You think its easy to eascape system built to get you? Time is not even a factor to it.
If you really want to stop chain of suffering for most, promote teravada buddism I guess. But nohody will follow it because its hard af.
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>>488406227
>>488407083
nature is cruel af, go take a walk sometimes.
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>>488400994
>stop this chain of suffering
no
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>>488407449
or jainism. but agreed
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>>488407174
You should still convince as many people as you can to prevent as much suffering as possible.
Life is cruel and full of suffering. More suffering than anyone asked for. Why increase it by bringing new beings into it?
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>>488400994
Go push this shit in Africa and India
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>>488406227
You are asking people to start posting gore lol. I dont think anyone wants to look at it. If you want gore, there are websites for it. Even nature is unforgiving shit.
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>>488407792
I have a question.
When was the last time you DIDN'T participate in hurting yourself?
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>>488407840
Intelligent educated people tend to be more receptive to rational argument.
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stop being moralfags and have some kids
they're useful in later life and you don't have to raise them if you have a missus
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>>488407870
I dont hurt myself. Other people and life hurts me.
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>>488400994
you already don't exist
it's me that is just imagining things
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>>488407792
life is full of joy and beauty
we live in an amazing world. you can eat an apple and inside is a seed that grows an entire apple tree, like an infinite food glitch. what an amazing system if you want everyone to have unlimited food. food literally comes out of the dirt so we can eat it. nothing you draw is more beautiful than what your eye paints for you when you look around. nothing you can sing is better than how sex feels. to say that this world is full of suffering is insane. everyone has a favorite song, a favorite food, good memories, etc. we are all there to enjoy creation and that is what our Creator made this creation for. to say "your life is full of suffering" because you have a shitty job or no gf or something -- i see where you're coming from, but to say that you can't find ANY happiness in existence is insane. the average person has many things they like about their day. eating food, enjoying games, etc. its sad you have such a nihilistic take, likely because you don't realize God is real
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>>488407903
Having kids is immoral. They did not ask or need to be born. You are just inflicting more suffering on nonconsenting new beings.
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>>488407960
cry me a river faggot
i didn't ask to be born either
may as well have some kids
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>>488407921
>other people
50% your fault
>life
Definitely your fault
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>>488407943
The symbol of your religion is a torture device. You are so deluded its sad.
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>>488407243
And your descendents may very well wish they weren't alive.
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>>488407986
Youre just being selfish and sadistic then. Your children will curse you for bringing them into existence.
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>>488407999
i denounce religion entirely, the new testament is full of pedophiles, that doesn't mean God isn't real and that the scriptures aren't true. the historicity of Jesus is literally undeniable unless you're a dishonest retard who has never looked into it. your whole perception is skewed because you've been brainwashed by jews who hate God
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>>488407943
>to say that this world is full of suffering is insane.
vapid child

>>488408044
don't waste your time with these retards
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>>488408044
it's a dog eat dog world, bud
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>>488400994
get raped
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Read The Last Messiah
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>>488407792
>prevent as much suffering as possible.
Fucking gay, MAXIMISE SUFFERING

You have children because you think they are cute, I have children because I want them to suffer, we are not the same
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>>488407243
Holy COPE
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>>488408191
Based. There are many of us out there.
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>>488400994
If you think this planet is nothing but full of suffering then I truly feel sorry for you because you are missing out on such beauty.
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>>488408191
>>488408218
trite.
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>>488408230
Beauty is just something people distract themselves with from the horror and suffering of life. It doesnt make life worth creating. Its a psychological defense mechanism.
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>>488407859
Why are they posting gore? Are they influenced by demons?
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This is the one thread where it's acceptable to Jockopost and no one does it.
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>>488408261
your willpower has no effect
mine increaes suffering
yours achieves nothing
who wins?
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>>488404832
If life happened once, itll happen again
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>>488408325
he who has extinguished his will
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>>488408189
How are we supposed to teach students how to read, if they can't even fit inside the building?
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>>488408373
so neither of us
get off your high horse
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>the world is full of suffering
>experience mild discomfort
>get sleepy
>etc etc
So many things that are not suffering. I thought you said it was full?
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>>488408417
i'm learning to swim to the other shore, you're still gooning in the mainland
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>>488408495
Strange. I'm reading a significant competitive slant to your language. Did you intend to immediately refute your own claim to a suppressed will?
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>>488408495
swimming is a process
you've already lost
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>>488404832
Whoah dude What did the non primates do to deserve that?
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>>488408565
you use becoming to unbind becoming

>>488408554
i did, too. but i decided to post it anyways in the spirit of banter. you're smart
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Antinatalism is just cuckoldry. Actually prove me wrong.
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>>488408613
>you use becoming to unbind becoming
utterly futile. masturbatory even.
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>>488408664
only paradoxical, not futile.
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>>488408729
Prove it.
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>>488400994
>Don't have children
>Be roasted alive over chain link fence and replaced by those who have children
Thanks for playing
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>>488408757
even an alcoholic will sometimes resolve to never drink again after a particularly bad bender. the poison becomes the cure
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>>488400994
Your cowardice is nauseating.
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>>488408838
drinking alcohol is a choice. there is no crossing the sea. you're there or you're not.
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>>488407859
>>488407792
>>488407960
>Suffering... LE BAD!!!
>because... BECAUSE IT JUST IS OKAY!?!?!
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>>488408890
so is suffering, although our aversion to it is hard-wired. resolve to not to be moved by what moves you, and eventually it'll stop moving you. simple as
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>>488408926
yeah, it is. working out or grinding for shekels isn't "suffering"
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>>488408988
apathy isn't transcendant
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>>488409169
but equanimity is.
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>>488408838
If you drink when hung over, the hang over goes away
T. Been plastered and crossfaded for 8 months
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>>488400994
The reason Europeans are refusing to have children is because they will be born American slaves. Nobody wants to visit slavery on an innocent child.
Until the hated American occupiers are forced from Europes cultures, lands, economies, and politics, this will not change.
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>>488400994
This is common knowledge. Most people know about this but willingly choose Nationalism, because it's something they can be proud of.

A guy who has achieved nothing at an individual's level, will always cling to religion/nationality/race/etc anything that can distract him from his own incompetence.

But what they don't realize is, there are people who will use these higher ideals, to manipulate them. Political leaders will use them to gain power (they themselves don't give a shit about nation, and will leave the first chance they get if things get really bad), or by online influencers who prey on their insecurities and manipulate them by making themselves feel pride for something they have no part in making.
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>>488409210
you're supporting my point but don't see it
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>>488409195
equanimity to the hardships of life is childs play. good luck cultivating equanimity in the face of the transition to death - I mean that sincerely
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>>488409388
>good luck cultivating equanimity in the face of the transition to death
well, yeah
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>>488400994
Hmmm.. should we improve life and stop suffering or commit self ideologicide by natural selection and leave the suffering ignorers to rule? Tough choice really.
"Look mom! I'm leaving the reigns of control to people who i think are commiting an moral abomination. Ain't I a moral and a good boy/redditor?"
Inb4
>muh memetic spread
Still works as a negative selection pressure and also kills the power attainment capacity of those who fall for it due to it being demoralizing ideology to the point of being info hazardous. The language used by AN:s is very very similar to clinically depressed persons and colored by multiple cognitive distortions ie; a two column analysis of the good and bad things in life. The bad one has cancer, disease, malnutrion, wars, rape etc. on ot while the "good" is reduced to half joking "ice-cream" or similar cynical take. AN can be approached reasonably and rigorously, but it's mostly an avenue of analyzing and philosophically justifying one's depression and ironically one cause of it. I don't hate ANs. In fact i kinda like them since they make suffering and self pity look so cringe and gay that i can't make myself go through the same emotions for a while, thus making me happier.
And a final note on this already disorganized post. What about the animals after voluntary human extinction? Leave them to rape, eat and each other until the sun burns out?
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>>488407243
Not really.
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>>488406227
>this retarded meme again
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>>488409225
Why do you think anyone would read an Indian comment that has more than 3 sentences? No one cares Jeet.
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>>488409539
What is your basis for distinguishing good from bad?
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>>488409643
harm
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>>488408926
>The sky is LE BLUE because IT JUST IS OKAY?!?!
This is what you sound like. The inherent badness of suffering is something that can be directly observe. But chances are you're an NPC with no subjective experience at all, so subjective experience and direct observation are foreign concepts to you.
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>>488409643
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felicific_calculus
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>>488409723
Your answer but begs the question. Why is harm bad?
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>>488409814
retard
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>>488409788
Why is pleasure good? Many good things require effort, which is a kind of suffering, for their attainment? Bad things not infrequently follow from pleasurable acts.
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>>488409464
>someone else on this board knows about David Pearce
Unfathomably based
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>>488409835
Were you not concerned to cause me harm via your indelicate reply?
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>>488409993
>Why is pleasure good?
Because it can be directly observed to be

>Many good things require effort, which is a kind of suffering, for their attainment?
Your point being? If the good from attaining the good thing outweighs the suffering required to get it, that's just a simple cost/benefit analysis.
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>>488410042
I like your funny words renaissance man
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>>488409633
That's the only reason people use this site. To communicate.
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>Why not just kill myself?
Is the first and fundamental question of philosophy. And guess what, we already solved it two thousand years ago with Aristotle. I dare any actual „Anti-Natalist“ to prove me wrong by killing themselves, right here, right now. If AN is true, any action other than suicide by the fastest means possible is pure hypocrisy, and you‘re just a faggot who doesnt believe what he preaches.

I WIN EITHER WAY
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>>488410128
>Because it can be directly observed to be
What is good?
>cost/benefit analysis
What is the algorithm for this analysis? Is it possible to determine all of the consequences of an act? Is each person weighted equally? Does each person experience exactly the same pain or pleasure from the same phenomena?
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>>488410128
Pride and envy are the only real moral good
Things that make you proud, are good.
Things that make others envious of you are good.

Catholicism is wrong
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>>488410407
What?? Why would you suicide? If you don't want to believe in ideologies? You know what's the truth that doesn't need to be solved? That anyone can know just be contemplating about it? It's simple.

One shouldn't have any "SHOULD" or "SHOULD NOT". It's that simple, one should act as the moment demands. You don't need somebody else to tell you what's right or wrong. Just observe, and make your own decision. The entire concept of morality collapsed if you remove past prejudices and experiences. Every situation is new, and demands a decision that is free from every prejudice that is imprinted by ideologies.

Do you trust "yourself" to make the right decision, if the moment demands it? This is the most important question. If you say yes, you don't need ideologies. If you say no, then you are not a human just a machine.
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Pleasure is good and pain is bad because words can't explain why, only you know why they're bad. trying to discuss consciousness in language is impossible. the people who claim that pain is good, only do so because they think going through the process of life goes anywhere, and so pain somehow has meaning, but it doesn't, anyone with more than two braincells understands nihilism. so there is no point to pain, not only is it intrinsically bad, but it also leads to no where.
>but life is full of pain you say, the alternative is no life
yea, so what? you would rather suffer pointlessly?
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>>488410581
all values, like pride and envy can be broken down to a root of pain. if I removed all pain from you you'd have no capacity to feel anything negative like pride and envy (which they negative by their nature)
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>>488409539
Man that dog is really fucked up
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>>488409017
>>488409742

>working out and working for money isnt suffering
>says the faggots who refuse to work out or work for money because the pain is just too much
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>>488410744
I have the sneaking suspicion that you‘ve misread OP. But before I call you a retard, I’m just gonna ask your real quick: What‘s the difference between Anti-natalism and Anti-nationalism?
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>>488411291
lmao I totally misread that. I thought it was about nationalism. My bad. Just have kids if you want to, or don't.
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>>488411449
Retard.
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>>488408283
Maybe you're right but I believe we all have souls and spirits. We can only strengthen them with beauty and pain. Maybe it is a coping mechanism, if so them we need to use it to it's fullest potential like any tool, it has a use. Nothing will change the fact we have to endure pain in this world. What is done is done. We have to live in this world and accept it for what it is but also not allow it to control us
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>>488400994
Do your part and kill yourself.
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>>488407243
>you will die while i will reincarante as a 1/20th swede and 19/20th pajeet treated as second class who can only poo on the ghetto streets because of my swedish heritage
Imagine thinking this is a flex you baka ahmedsson
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>>488400994
I have two (white/euro) children and will have more.
I'm glad you will never reproduce.
You can stop your own suffering right now by ACKing yourself btw.
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>>488411686
But if it's true for him it's also true for you, either life sucks or not.
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>>488400994
Nietzsche is the cure to all of you nihilstic retards
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spiralanon here
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>>488411811
Syphillis cured Nietzsche first of sanity, then of life.
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>>488411811
Nietzsche has no philosophy and was vehemently irrational.
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>>488411714
Yeah, living for the future generation is a retarded concept. Why do people think their great-great-great-grandson's happiness is somehow more valuable that themselves? It applies both left/right, people who talk about protecting climate for future generation while living like shit themselves, or some other stuff.

Your life deserves the peak of what this world has to offer. It's a retarded concept that I will die in this war now, so that my great-great-great grandson won't have to die. A life is a life, your life is important.
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>>488400994
Yes, please.
Prove Darwin right, and remove your genes from the gene pool, so that the next generation excludes freaks like you.
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>>488403614
Reincarnnation isnt real you superstitious terrified nigger retard wage slave. Thanks for making more tax chattel
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>>488410762
Counterpoint, every time people like you are tolerated the society which does so approximates an image of hell within a single lifetime before being replaced.
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>>488412300
By all means, if you have anything, any arguments but baseless insults and projections, I would love to hear them.
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>>488412432
>any arguments but baseless insults
>hates pattern recognition
>Nazi flag
>"""""white""""""
Ad hominem as a fallacy was invented by the same kikes who later suggested that racism was prejudice instead of pattern recognition.
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>>488409320
There is a sufi story about jesus running away from someone. Other guy sees him and is like, Hey Jesus wtf?! Didnt you cure sick and raise dead who are YOU running away from?
Jesus said, from a fool, there is no cure for a fool, you can only become one near them.
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>>488411811
Antinatalism is not nihilistic.
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>>488412521
can you recognize this pattern?
>1 + insult = retard
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>>488412756
>It's JUST A COINCIDENCE that my people are always hideous, bad at everything, and any society that tolerates us dies screaming!!!!
lol
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>>488409464
NIGGER HOW IS ANTINATALIST PROCREATING GONNA SOLVE ANYTHING YOU RETARD? IS THAT YOU WHAT YOU'RE ALLUDING TO?
does pearce even have kids himself?
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>>488400994
>be antinatalist
>want humans to go extinct
>refuse to kill self
I don't get it. Do they actually just want to live in a world by themselves with no other humans? If there was a purge, do they think they'd be "one of the good ones" who gets to be spared? If you want humans to go extinct but don't want to kill yourself, you're just a coward.
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>>488412661
From Nietzches point of view it is. He thought there are only 2 types philosophy, pro life and contra life. Life denying one he called nihilism.
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>>488409539
>Things dying... LE BAD!!!
Killing animals is great.
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>>488412901
Killing yourself is hard and painful for yourself and others. You could do a lot of good by continuing to live and convincing others not to reproduce.
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>>488412905
But why is life denying LE BAD? because it just is?
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>>488408283
Horror and suffering only exist in your mind
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>>488412966
If you're dead then it doesn't matter what other people choose to do. Death isn't like spectator mode in minecraft. There are a lot of ways to kill yourself that are instantaneous. It will only be painful if you get cold feet at the last second and fuck it up and wind up permanently disabled. You aren't going to survive a 20 story jump.
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>>488411891
This.
>>488411591
Well I am not superstitious like you. Superstition is all psychological cope and defense mechanisms for the ultimate meaningless, futility and suffering of life.
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>>488412926
You have to be at least sociopath adjacent to willingly do this kind of thing.
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>>488412926
poor bambi
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>>488413071
I dont disagree. That doesnt change any of the points I make.
If you create a new being you create a new mind that is guaranteed to suffer and feel pain and regret. Why bother?
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>>488412926
This is so retarded and sad. Hunting should be done for food only. Imagine depriving the forest of majestic beast like this. Hitler was right
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>>488413246
then why havent (You) killed yourself yet, memeflag?
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>>488413099
In am not a solipsist. The world continues to exist and the people continue to suffer after I die.
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>>488413071
and my mind exists in the world, and therefore horror and suffering is objective and real. besides the fact that they're real since our minds is all we have access to anyways regardless of metaphysics. they're the only things that are real you dumb fag nigger.
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>>488413190
Americans literally unironically and without a joke face think Pic related is normal. No shit they are mentally damaged psychotic mutts aka abominations.
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>>488412661
FACT: savage subhumans will continue to breed and destroy everything not protected with mass violence. Every statue, every painting, every tree, will be torn up, burned, and covered in shit unless the consequence for doing so is the use of rifles.
This is a universal condition, everywhere on the planet. The ever present threat of mass lethal violence is the only thing that stops you yourself from being raped, ripped open, and eaten alive by subhuman savages.

Thus, if you refuse to breed, you are suggesting that you value nothing, nothing is beautiful, everything that constitutes you, your thoughts, your genetic makeup, the collective actions of your predecessors, any cultural or artistic or philosophical thought or action by the people who most closely resemble you, SHOULD be raped, covered in shit, and devoured. You are making an active, clear choice to attempt to bring that world closer into realization.

Your actions dictate that your body should be dismantled (refusing to take action to prevent something is consent) and yet when I start running a band saw the long way up your ring finger suddenly it's all "wait that's wrong, hold on I have intrinsic value".
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>>488412661
Yes it is retard.
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>>488412926
Big balls man. I wonder how your face would look like and how your attitude would be if a pack of fingolians got you alone in the woods and eat you alive, balls first. Fingöls would think its great for sure, but would you?
>>488413028
Its Nietzches perspective, if you are curious, read, Im not going to spoonfeed everyone.
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>>488401886
>antinatalists don't want children
>encourage them to do the thing they want
there's no ethical violation. cut off your balls, faggot, do it now.
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>>488413190
Yeah... like killing animals to like, eat is really weird lmao am I right girls ?
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>>488413246
The holocaust didn't happen, no one suffered and there was nothing horrible about it, other than it didn't happen of course(it should have).
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>>488413287
Mom would be sad.
>>488413332
You are just wrong. People can be antinatalists and still value things.
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>>488400994
Why haven’t you killed yourself yet?
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>>488409835
Intellectual debate: the Albanian way. Truly a thing of beauty.
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>>488413332
> this guy thinks he's the second coming of christ
Sure, buddy I am sure you have contributed significantly to keep this world beautiful right? right? Oh, and please don't give an ideological answer, let's see how you made the world a beautiful place than it was before. Remember, I wanna hear what "you" did.
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>>488413190
I hope you're a vegan, because otherwise I have some bad news for you.
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>>488413336
You wrong. The most popular argument for antinatalism is a pro human and moral one. It asserts the importance of human values such as suffering is bad and its bad to inflict suffering on other people.
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>>488413494
It kinda is weird to kill your own conscious twin for the purpose of sustenance.
in the same way hitting your head on the wall is weird.
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>>488413274
Hunters pay more for conservation efforts than all other groups combined, globally.
Hunting is good because all men must be prepared to kill in the correct context. Everyone needs practice killing, that's such an obvious fact it's deeply disturbing that "people" even exist who don't understand that.
Eating what you've hunted is just a matter of pragmatism, you shouldn't throw away food especially when you've already paid for it.

>>488413326
For all of human history and pre history the best men and the best cultures were prolific in their hunting.
Then suddenly we became the global culture that worshiped "peace" and in one lifetime the entire world has fallen into ruin.
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>>488413584
I know that, it doesn't make it any less fucked up.
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>>488413332
Really based post

>>488413601
Yeah ok faggot whatever. Are you the untermensch from /int/ always posting about this faggot shit or it's just that 4chan is being raided by reddit ?
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>>488413393
Those aren't Fingols, they're Sami, basically chugs, but generations of interbreeding has made them white passing.
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>>488410762
Good can turn pain into pleasure, and bad can turn pleasure into pain. You just need to assign these labels (good/bad) to the feelings of pleasure and pain. Good and bad are born from pleasure and pain, but they are not the same. They are the subjective offspring of pleasure and pain.

This issue of meaning between nihilism comes from the realization that we can make mistakes. Why do you seek a meaning outside of yourself? Why is you thinking something matters not enough? Because you know you can make mistakes. The irony is, mistakes mental constructs, just like meaning is.

In essence, people who choose religion and nihilism both come from the same position. They come from an insecurity born out of a fear of making a mistake.

In the end, it is as simple as this : If it matters to you, it matters. If it does not? It doesn't.

What Nietzsche wanted, was for people to decide their own meanings, so why don't people do that? Again, it boils down to the initial point : people know they can make mistakes.

The truth is, there is no "wrong" answer. If you decide it matters, if you feel it matters? It matters. You are your own compass, there is no god to tell you what to do. There is only your flawed self..

And guess what? Those who believe in god? Actually DO choose their own meaning, but they choose it based on the feeling of comfort that comes from a crowd and thousands of years of affirmation, but incidentally. They still decide to make god their meaning, and they choose that meaning, which is ultimately why they generally live happier lives, despite being complete fools.

Trust yourself to decide your own meaning, because there are no "wrong" answers here.
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>>488400994
Das rite wyteboi
go all anti natal ala and go extinct
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>>488401886
>wahhhh life is so hard i’m suffering so much

ummm maybe try… not sucking?
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>>488413651
Reminder that over 99% of animals die of one of two conditions: Starving to death (which can take weeks) or being killed by other animals (which can take hours).

Any death less painful and prolonged than a pack of wolves taking their time slowly ripping chunks out of their hindquarters for hours until they are too tired to fight back, before ripping open their guts while they're still alive is literally better than what the average animal could hope for in life.
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>>488413681
Why do you keep changing your flag around, memefriend?
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>>488413764
>The truth is, there is no "wrong" answer.
Therefore, the statement that there is a correct answer is correct.
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>>488413540
lol
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>>488413393
I've read Nietzsche, the issue with him is that he was a fundamentally irrational person, clever, more clever than most but still not rational. unlike say Plato for example.
nothing in his work builds on anything, he has insights, don't take this the wrong way, but again it's of no substance.
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>>488413852
>>488413540
I see how you ignored my reply. Classic hypocrite moraltards.
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>>488413028
because the life deniers aren't here to argue otherwise
>What's that? You are a life denier arguing otherwise?
>Kill yourself, hypocrite.
simple as. Only the life affirming position can be consistent.
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>>488413513
>You are just wrong. People can be antinatalists and still value things.
By being hypocritical, sure. You can claim to "value" those things while actively taking the course of action most likely to result in said things being smashed open, covered in shit and burned, thus your definition of "value" is useless and not worth any consideration.
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>>488413892
> calls himself the savior of world
> thinks he understands every aspects of beauty
> thinks he's the sole reason beauty exists in the world
> uses ad hominem the first chance their belief is challenged
this site is worse than plebbit at this point
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>>488413651
Like I said I have children and Id also kill you for sport and because I hate your kind.
You have chosen to opt out of the game, but don't be surprised when the vast majority of people continue to play by the rules.
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>>488414045
>this site is worse than plebbit at this point
Both are intel projects.
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>>488413393
>Big balls man. I wonder how your face would look like and how your attitude would be if a pack of fingolians got you alone in the woods and eat you alive, balls first. Fingöls would think its great for sure, but would you?
Only the most pathetic bloodlines of men deny contextual morality.

Refusing to take a life when it should be taken is an equal crime to taking a life that should not be taken. Every successful group in history has understood the difference between killing and murder.
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>>488413804
The fun fact is that it's never niggers dying of aids at 25 who have this kind of mindset but always high middle class whites(or jews) living in the west.
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>>488414171
And you need religion/morality to tell you that, you should made decisions as situation demands? Even kids understands this.
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>>488413932
>I see how you ignored my reply. Classic hypocrite moraltards.
But I didn't, retard. You're not important, your mother was a shit covered whore like the rest of your bloodline, I get to you when I get to you, lol.
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>>488414045
>If I just make up a bunch of nonsense you never said I WIN
It's weird you think this tactic works in a text conversation, where you cant actually lie about what I said.
>LE AD HOMO!!!!
I don't care what "rule of argument" some fag who couldn't cope with pattern recognition made up. Ugly faggots are basically always wrong, or lying.
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>>488414310
> But I didn't, retard. You're not important, your mother was a shit covered whore like the rest of your bloodline, I get to you when I get to you, lol.

Who hurt you? This kind of attitude doesn't suit a man who claims to be the savior of beauty of our world. I suggest you first save your inner self. You seem like a troubled individual.
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>>488414088
You're like a dog that barks when cornered. I pity you, you're a sad thing and would be hilarious too if you weren't real and capable of doing real harm to others.
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>>488414286
>And you need
When did I say anything about needing anything to inform anything, you retard? You can't even write or read in English.
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Someone tell this guy >>488413584 that plants and fungi also are capable of mentation and are alive.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0176161721000572
>Although no specialized sensory organs and cells have been found in plants, the long-distance plant electrical signals generated by plants under external stimulation accurately transmit information to other organs in the form of electrical pulses, thereby achieving integration of plant development or coordination of the plant and environment. This method of information transmission is usually faster and more direct than chemical signal transmission, gene expression, and phenotype changes.

I hope you're fastan.

>>488413651
Religious prayers meant to thank god or dieties for the gift of life and sustenance have been there for that, balance. Killing is part of life, only a buddhist is dumb enough not to see it.
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>>488413932
>>488414045
>>488414286
>>488414491
Why are you acting so goddamn retarded?
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>>488414425
Lmao this guy, you literally said that it's your job to save the beauty of this world, ya, da, etc And I asked what have you done till now to get near that goal? Is that too much to ask?.
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>>488414491
>claims to be the savior of beauty of our world
Lol illiterate fag

>Who hurt you?
Why do you argue like a fat woman



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