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SFB NEWS 19/11/2024:Previously on SFB News>>488940193Economists close to the Kremlin predicted a shock collapse in production in Russia>>488940369 >>488940418Airlines may close hundreds of flights within Russia due to lack of government aid>>488940516 >>488940555Car dealers predicted massive bankruptcies>>488942536 >>488942583
TEEZEEDEE
TZD
Total nato dearh
happy 1000 days of TZD /uhg/
Banks hiked deposit rates to the highest level since 2001>>488941692 >>488941823The last major Russian state bank will be cut off from the US financial system>>488940862 >>488940907Russian refineries were on the verge of shutdown due to losses>>488941239 >>488941285 >>488941333 >>488941391 >>488941427 >>488941460
dead generaldead country
Another one of the largest banks in China began to block yuan transfers from countries “friendly” to Russia>>488940713 >>488940755Chinese banks began to massively block accounts of Russian companies based on “blacklists” of legal addresses>>488943128 >>488943253Russian diamond exports to India collapse by 96% due to sanctions>>488942366 >>488942412
Destroy china, destroy russia, stop the beast
The Central Bank will pour billions into state banks to fill Putin’s military budget>>488941942 >>488941995The Central Bank raised the official dollar exchange rate above 100 rubles for the first time in a year>>488943456 >>488943492Nabiullina announced the exhaustion of almost all resources of the Russian economy>>488943887 >>488943930
The government proposed forcing Russians to work overtime due to a labor shortage>>488942938 >>488942985Russians will begin to write off loan debts for going to war>>488943689 >>488943734Doctors at Russia's largest cancer center have had their salaries cut by 30%>>488944151 >>488944344
>>488967099Yeah, its strange tho, isn't it?Russia's been sending more and more armor to the front for 3 years...Yet it never accumulates... Russians always attack with the same amount...What's been HAPPENING to the Russian armor in Ukraine?
>>488967130YWNBAW
>>488967393No one knows .
>>488967349>>488967349>>488967349Maria Zakharova(Director of the Information and Press Department of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia)said that Russian soldiers fight for black lives against the western genocidal imperialism.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/436270011/https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/436270011/
>>488967521>>488967521>>488967521Today, a number of really needy African countries do not receive the necessary financial support through, for example, from the IMF, the World Bank," the diplomat said at the ‘Russia - Africa. In the Struggle for Truth.’ session. "Do you know why? They can make up a lot of stories, but you and I know the truth, and let's say it out loud: yes, because they divert their main resources to support the Kiev regime," she emphasized."And if we speak directly, to [support] the war," Zakharova continued. "What are they doing this for? Only for one purpose - to inflict a strategic defeat on Russia. And why is it necessary to inflict a strategic defeat? Because Russia supports all those who need not imaginary patronage, but real defense," the diplomat said.https://tass.com/politics/1869983
Tungsten Rain... Fragments passing quickly through your brainTungsten Rain... Greasy cubes for every meal againTungsten Rain... One step back and Chechens perforateTungsten Rain... So much bussy, never masterbateTungsten Rain... Someone's son just turned into debrisTungsten Rain... Worth a Lada and some Lima beansTungsten Rain... Ghosts of Bucha screaming for your deathTungsten Rain... Legs exploded, taking your last breathTungsten Rain... Cameras caught you taking your own lifeTungsten Rain... "Self-inflicted", Kremlin told your wifeTungsten Rain... Why won't Putin just send in the mechs?Tungsten Rain... Unfamiliar western toilet techTungsten Rain... Killed by people they're convinced are troonsTungsten Rain... Getting beat until morale improvesTungsten Rain... Kursk Republic freed from Russian yokeTungsten Rain... Vatiks way too dense to get the jokeTungsten Rain... Win so much we need the norks to fightTungsten Rain... If they don't just goon all day and nightTungsten Rain... Vatniks dying in a hard showerTungsten Rain... Sink in mud, become a sunflower>>488967130>Borrell confirms that the US will allow Ukraine to attack up to 300 kilometers inside russian territoryBtw, this is still referring to around Kursk, right? (Wanna see some hits on Rostov-on-don...)
>>488967499>Ukraine victory is eminent in my comic book!
>>488967521Monkeyyyyyyyy
>>488967130NOOOOOK NOOOOOOOOOOOKNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK
>>488967296
I am really disappointed with western abilities to conduct hybrid warfare and I do not understand their plot entirely. So come fall of USSR the west was fully triumphant and winning, it was a perfect time to get rid of all of the remnants of KGB nominclature. Instead effectively they have rebuilt disfunctional Russia to be a weird golem resource station with other post soviet countries being Africa level shitholes.Once Russia started to escalate west would do this weird game where they promise things to ex-soviet countries, then wait until Russia chimps out, then provide minimum viable support in the moment so that it counts on paper as help but is not enough for a win. Effectively the only thing that west did if you look at the maps, territorial concessions, military growth etc. Is literally and directly make Russia stronger.Now I think that Russia will eventually burst, because I have a strong belief that authoritarian governments are prone to extreme instability at the moment of change of power, but if the next time said change of power happens again and Europe and US will be once again counting boogers in their nose then everything will go on the same circle. Recently I was researching USSR food production and came to the conclusion that starting from the 60s USA was literally feeding USSR every time soviet crops would fail.I am almost willing to come up with a conspiracy where authoritarianism is deliberately revived in eastern Europe every generation on purpose, I can't imagine why, but nothing else makes sense.
>>488967521you will never be human
νευραλινκ - neuralink - gemantria 666Elon musk is the false prophet, image of the beast is AI. People will implant in head and arm neuralink, without that they couldn't buy or sell"It will not allow anyone to make a purchase or sell anything unless the person has the mark with the beast's name or the number of its name."We're so fucked!!!!!!
*This* is what Ukrainians are dying for?
Reminder that this shit either ends up with us in nato or us with nooksAnd I'm not sure what scenario is preferrable for the russia
>>488967944>I was researching USSR food production and came to the conclusion that starting from the 60s USA was literally feeding USSR every time soviet crops would fail.True
>>488967944here's the plot: taking ziggers out with a flurry of buck shots.
He was then permitted to give life to this statue so that it could speak (robots). Then the statue of the beast commanded that anyone refusing to worship it must die. He required everyone—small and great, rich and poor, free and slave—to be given a mark on the right hand or on the forehead (neuralink). And no one could buy or sell anything without that mark, which was either the name of the beast or the number representing his name. Wisdom is needed here. Let the one with understanding solve the meaning of the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. His number is 666.Fuck elon musk
so when is Monke going to poke the Demon Core?
>>488967393Russia is pushing forward on the frontline where this armor has accumulated. You cant pilpul me.
>>488968119Can we please end this "Ukraine gets nukes" fantasy? There's no scenario where Russia OR America would allow that.
>>488967944It’s very simple. The west is run by Jews, they cause civil strife in Eastern Europe and around the world because their supreme imperative is to maximize the deaths of white people. Sending Ukrainians to die in an effort to kill Russians is a win-win-win in the Jews’ handbook. After the last Ukrainian male has perished, Zelenskyy will giddily flee to Paris to lead a Ukrainian-government-in-exile where he will make lots of pretty speeches at NATO leadership conferences.
>>488968119>Reminder that this shit either ends up with us in nato or us with nooks>And I'm not sure what scenario is preferrable for the russiaThey would prefer getting nuked ngl . Living next to someone who lives better than you and not being able to ruin there lives would be hell for em .
you guys like boobies?
>>488967944>USA was literally feeding USSR every time soviet crops would fail.Yeah sorry, our bad.
>>488968323Haha you think Ukraine will be richer? Ukraine will not be joining the EU if that’s your idea. Ukraine isn’t even joining NATO. And it sure isn’t getting nukes either. The West likes Ukrainians being a puppet state, not independent or strong
>>488968318>Sending Ukrainians to die in an effort to kill RussiansYour position would be possible, but you are phrasing it in a way to say that Russia has no agency, action or blame in this and as if they don't have a kike caste.If what you are describing is true, Russia in some capacity would be in on it in my opinion.
>>488968488You tried
>>488968488Try not to repeat that mistake .
>>488968323>implying bulgarians live better than russiansThats a hard imply
>>488968064>>488968293Imagine not being able to defeat that for 10 years :-(>>488967743The comic had nothing to do with Ukraine. It's about retards like >>488959095>we are close to WW3>even thought Shelomov has zero allies>and children of shelomovland generals live in the decaying west xD
>>488968560AHAHAHAHAHAhHAHAH
>>488968560HOLY KEK LMAO
>self defense is a jewish plot
>>488968318>The west is run by Jews
NEW BAKER NEEDED
>>488968318>cause civil strife in Eastern Europe and around the world False. Shelomov has been bullying Ukraine since 2003 with Tuzla Island dispute. Pidor glowies started forming separatist parties in Ukraine back in 2005The war in Ukraine is very complicated and has been decades in the making
>>488968283>where this armor has accumulatedBut it hasn't accumulated. We're seeing attacks of the same size as we've always seen.Since you're dumb, I'll just tell you: The implication was that your armor is getting blown up as fast as it can be pulled from storage.That's the reason you're not making larger attacks, obviously.
>>488968323fascinating creatures ain't theysociologists gonna study this shit for a long time
God, Russian irredentism is beyond my understanding. These vodkaniggers could eat half of Europe and still not be satisfied.Meanwhile we're trying to find out what the fuck to do with Puerto Rico, and I'm pretty sure nobody would reeee about "lost territories" if they declared independence.
>>488967241Don't do my boy Big E dirty like that.
>>488968800>We're seeing attacks of the same size as we've always seen.uhh anon those have been getting smaller and less good tech . BMP's and MTLB's are rare now it's mostly BTR's .
>>488968318>to maximize the deaths of white peoplecorrect. Shelomov hates white people.Notice how war is mainly taking in East Ukraine where Russian speakers live :-(
>>488968800Youre not seeing anything s8nce youre in cope mode. What the frontline sees reflects its status, which is Russia on the offensive and Hoholstan having to pull back since they cant deal with it
>>488968853Puerto Rico was conquered by the US a little over a century ago, while Ukraine had been part of Russia for hundreds of years. The ancestors of today's Ukrainians considered themselves Russians and had no concept of "Ukraine"; Puerto Ricans otoh have never considered themselves Americans.
>>488968912Also true>>488969012>Youre not seeing anything s8nce youre in cope mode.And you are projecting just like your kind always do when they're embarrassing themselves.
>>488967296Thanks for reminding me why TZD is morally justified
>>488969012Avdeevka was captured in February, you're "taking Pokrovsk" for 10 months and call that winning. You're not deceiving anyone but yourself
>>488969150Youre not coping well.
>>488969036Ehhh, there are literally more Puerto Ricans in the 48 continental U.S. states than in Puerto Rico. Plus, who cares what island niggers say?
>>488969115Also forgot to mention BMD's are nowhere extinct . All that cool gear wasted for nothing . Btw what do i have to do to get a STRIKER just one ?
>>488969036And yet Puerto Ricans want to join the US while Ukrainians don't want to join Russia, curious
>>488969036>RussiansIvan grozny stole that, ukrainians were real rus Kyivan Rus, then rusians conquered them and called little russians (malorosiy). Rusians are moscovian-mongoloid horde
>>488969115This is ground reality. The frontline is moving daily. Drang nach westen.
>>488969036Ukraine was part of Russia since the late 1700s after Russia invaded the Zaporozhian Sich. Barely longer than the Polish partitions.Of course, a vatnigger can't conceive that nations aren't states but rather are ethnic folks. His nationalism is entirely civic and state-based. Based on multi-ethnic empires as opposed to ethnic folks.I don't even want this war to continue by the way. I fear for our future with Russia's chimping out with nukes. We need to settle a peace treaty. Ukraine has shed enough blood, and clearly this war is a net-negative for Ukrainians and the white race as a whole.
>>488968560I got 3 week b@ for shit posting and making fun of zigger children blowing bums for rupies.This entire place is infested with bricskins and vatnics.
>>488969324Honestly, the only reason why Congress waffles so hard about the idea of statehood for them is the two extra senators.If it weren't for that they'd by the 51st state by now. It's not like everyone on that island isn't already an American citizen who can travel to the mainland freely.
>>488969553Internet is dead, everywhere is like that
>>488968560We just had a new janny "hiring" round, so not surprising that some shitskin snuck in.
>>488969501Ukies are poles and polonized russo-ethnics and various churkoids. Its russian land and since they want to get uppity, we will buckbreak them.
>>488969673Seriously.Wtf?What happened to shit posting and 4chans sense of humor? Are zoomers really that much of titanic pussies?
>>488969818Actually you'll just lose and die, you subhuman russian snownigger
>>488969958>Are zoomers really that much of titanic pussies?It's not zoomers but shitskins and termialy online troons .
>>488967130i hope you guys bomb the shit out of them, I'm tired of russingger propaganda
>>488970019No you fat stupid mutt, were gonna kill your proxy traitors and stamp them out from this land
>>488970247>NoSure
>>488969818a buck is talking about buckbreacking anyone. funny. you reek of impotency
>>488970247Gonna have a hard time doing that if you keep dying 4 to 1
>>488970133>It's not zoomers but shitskins and termialy online troonsMaybe a good nuking would do this world a favor.
>Shelomov threatens UK>>488948278>>488948278>literally the biggest news story of the year is being completely memory holed. the US, under Joe Biden and Kamala Harris has essentially just bombed Russia for the first time. No media coverage>>488960658>>488960658>>488960658
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>>488970373I accept your concession
Wow, 1,000 days of a three day special military operation to kill as many Russians as possible. Man, Putin is a fucking retard.
>>488970392Nah it's just like all other sub cultures . Mentaly ill ppl latch onto and hide in sub cultures that have the least internall self policing . So you gotta shine more light on these thing rather than shovel em under the rug . Shit like this festers in darkness .
>>488970497Because Russia lobbing a nuke at UK territory is about as likely as America permanently swearing off burgers.
>>488968293What's Russia going to do, invade Ukraine more? They're already expending maximum effort in their current invasion.
>>488969036People need to separate concepts properly because much of the discourse about countries is extremely misguided. First, we need to delineate and differentiate historical states from modern secular international states. Historically, a state was usually a direct projection of a certain seat of power, most often a monarchical or feudal family. The various lands in-between, excluding times of war, would typically remain the same, only changing who they paid taxes to.In contrast, a modern national state is a meta-entity that exists with internationally recognized, preferably unchangeable borders, ideally governed by the population within those borders. Russia, like Georgia, did not exist as national states until the 20th century. So we need to differentiate countries now and centers of powers in past that resulted in countries now. Pure Ukrainians, Belarusians, and Russians, who aren't mixed with Tatars or other groups, are all part of the Rus people. In this sense, Ukrainians are of Rus, Rusyn, or Russian origin if we disregard political/state names. The key question is about the seat of power. Russia, as a political entity, is centered in Moscow. So, is Ukraine historically subordinate to Moscow, and does it have an identity outside of this subordination?The answer is a clear yes. Culturally, linguistically, and politically, Ukraine has always been a challenge for Moscow's dominance. It was never properly subordinate and consistently resisted assimilation into a pan-Moscow-focused culture. Now Moscow as an imperial seat of power, and Russia as a modern state, both wish to become pan-east Slavic union state and mono culture, but that's not something that you can force especially through Russias typical means.
>>488970590whatever buck
>>488970757>They're already expending maximum effort in their current invasion.Really? From what I've read, Russia's overall strategy has been fairly conservative from the beginning.
>>488968293Russia can’t really do anything about it though. The US might object, but since Russia violated the agreement under which Ukraine gave up their nukes? Ukraine is entitled to pursue them if they want.
>>488971051What the fuck have you been reading? What's left in Russia's quiver, other than nukes?
I work at the UFO base under the OCEANthe minute Putin authorizes the use of nuclear weapons he will be abducted and tortured to death for 5000 years, we've already warned him
>>488971077>The US might objectWill absolutely object. Which is gay. Nuclear proliferation is based.
T Z D
>>488971127Mass mogilising for giga meatwaves . At the start it would have done the trick ngl but now there is not enough armor or arty for em and just gear in general .
>>488971208Agreed
>>488971208Yah, we consistently oppose it. Just the terms under which Ukraine handed over their bombs have been violated.
>>488971051That's like saying it's 'conservative' to take a loan that gives you a sub 100 dollar car payment even though it'll take you a decade to pay off the car
>>488971208>Nuclear proliferation is basedLegalize nuclear bombs
>>488971192Kill the false prophet elon musk mr. lgbt alien
>>488971051So you're saying they deliberately chose to suffer more than 700k casualties?
>>488971455It's funny to me how some tards convinced themselves that Elon who is a corrupt billionaire that made the literal brainchip and has tons of kids from diffrent women is somehow anti globehomo and somehow based and trad . Very strange clown world .
>>488971455elon musk is an an Alien
>>488971770Demon*
>>488971730I'm actually scared of him, i believe he's the false prophet
>>488971730Don't forget his pro CCP stances.
r/ugh. what's happening?
>>488971938HE'S THE FALSE PROPHET
>>488970894They dont have to force anything. Those are Russian lands being taken back. Those who live upon them can deal with it or piss off westward. Their political, cultural and linguistic identity is barely distinct. Its as much forced as would be a moscow-centric assimilation since its all just a regional divergence. However, the ukrainian adoption of open animosity towards all things russian is pretty much a non-starter for wanting to politically administer donbas. Lands were given to them by soviets and it was under the guise of friendship with russia that they were allowed continued stewardship.
>>488971965>bbcNot even funny
>>488971995Brown hands typed this post.
>>488970240We all are.
Stalker 2 comes out tomorrow but i still havent finished Factorio
>>488969345And you're losing way too many men for the tiny amount you're taking, to the point where its completely subhuman that you think each other's lives are so worthless.Do you think you "win a war" as long as you're going forward? You have to achieve goals, you stupid piece of shit.
>>488971890take that back or you're getting your rectum probed
>>488971636No they chose not to carpet bomb oblivious ukrotards into the stone age since they were given the benefit of the doubt of not being stupid with slavic ties. Not every uky is a banderite zelenkike.
>>488971982What a retarded false prophet lol
>>488972109>finished FactorioThat's not possible in any case . Stalker is for long sessions . Factorio for gaming while listening to some podcast or book .
>>488971051Putin clearly wants to win this war so if there was something more he could do to win it quickly, surely he would be doing that thing right nowThe fact that he's now using North Korean troops suggests he really is resorting to every option available to him
>>488972056I accept your concession
>>488972154No, incubus, don't touch my ass
>>488972241>chose not to carpet bomb oblivious ukrotards into the stone ageFalse.If you could, you would. We see your butchery every day. You "holding back" is a bad joke.You don't because you are TOO FUCKING WEAK.Russia is NOT that caliber of power these days.
>>488972310^^^^^^Slut for BBC
So did Ukraine launch another missile strike? Would explain the renewed screeching
>>488972310Dumb zoomer
>>488972152A war of attrition is fought in small spaces. Killing ukronazis is a goal.
>>488972109>Stalker 2 comes out tomorrow but i still havent finished FactorioWhat did you do to your first stalker?
>>488972388Russia is merciful, until its not
>>488972464he got lost to the zone
>>488972444You're a retard, but you already know that.
>>488972397Thats what you fight for, its what all of nato supports and what all the ukys laid down for
>>488971995Tying ethnic groups to land where they didn't reside is stupid. Ukrainians don't see themselves as Russians. Donbassians and Crimeans do.
>>488972254He will mark you with neuralink and force you to worship image of the beast - AI, make statues alive - robotsHe's the richest person in the world, fuck. Read book of revelationneuralink, νευραλινκ in greek gematria is 666 Book of revelation written in Koine Greek
>>488972444>Killing ukronazis is a goal.And if Ukrainians had been killing any fewer than 3 Russians for every 1 of their own lost, the war would have ended already.So your gains are tiny.Your losses are tragic.What the fuck does "Winning" even MEAN to you losers?>>488972487Russians are animals for whom "Mercy" is just a pretty word they've heard from better people.
>>488972512Your kind has no right to administer historically russian land. You know this.
>>488972565^^^^^^Slut for BBC
>>488971192based UFO base dweller... but how about you abduct and torture him already?
>>488971995>Those are Russian lands being taken back. In a might names right sense yes, but might makes right is not a good basis for absolute moral framework which is why humanity has been striving towards cooperation and common moral ground in politics, even if it's ineffective it's having an effect since despite everything world on average is more peaceful than an average centuries before. The reason why this is a bad framework is because in a fantastical scenerio where Georgia gates Gundam mecha powerful enough to defeat Russian military, it could invade Russia and take territories of Georgian kingdom up to the end of Krasnodar Krai claiming it to be retaking Georgian land, and those who don't like it can fuck off. Of course it's a fantastical scenerio but I'm trying to demonstrate how that's a very shortsighted moral basis that will bite Russia eventually whenever it becomes weaker in the inevitable ongoing endless history of humanity that spares no empire.>Their political, cultural and linguistic identity is barely distinct. Its as much forced as would be a moscow-centric assimilation since its all just a regional divergence.It's not, we can argue about that but I think that would take too long for a thread. Here is my point, clearly Russia was unsuccessful in creating a new ethnogenesis of pan-east Slavs as mega Russian state, this isn't an opinion it's a fact at the moment so far otherwise animosity and military action would not have started in the first place.Russia right now is forcefully trying to establish it's sphere, which it can afford to do at the moment, but it is like a pendulum and these things swing back inevitably.
>>488972487LMAO
>>488972679You are tying yourself to a state. I don't, I am no patriot as I am a nationalist. States come and go. Russians have no claim to the territory I happen to reside in, and adding it to the state that happens to rule over them is not going to make their lives any better.
>>488972679>historically russian landThere is no such thing. Period.Russians are not an ethnicity. They are the genetic refuse of every conquered people ever destroyed by Moscow.You are a slave horde used for war.You have no ABILITY to administer yourselves at this time, that's why you're attached to Moscow.
>>488972625Yeah he is obviously an evil guy. Friends with Epstein and wants to install chips in people's heads and buy elections. Just saying it's all so retarded lol
>>488972604Ukrainians arent russians, and these are russian lands. proto-ukrainians that you all derive your bullshit from DID consider themselves a russian variety. Youre not it. You belong in poland.
>>488972855It's scary
>>488972828Oh yes there is, better get with the program. We are willing to die to show there is. You cant stop us.
Why are politicians freaking out about Ukraine being allowed to strike Russian territory
>>488972695>BBCwhy do you immediately think about nigger dick anon? lmao
>>488972876Russian filth do not decide where anybody "belongs" because your own existence is barely tolerated on this planet (and may soon not be).
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>>488972109Do you guys have to shill state video games as a requirement for power + internet?
>>488972979>We are willing to dieContinue proving it, by all means.
>>488968853the USA would definitely REEE since POOR to rico produces more soldiers for the US military than any state or territory per capita....
>>488973010Holy fuck he aged badly
>>488972876I refuse to go along with your logic, what matters is the current and recent past. Otherwise we may as well go argue about Karelia or Zavolochye or something retarded like that. But do you think that people who WANT to be part of the same country and state should be and those who do not should not be?
*picks nose**flicks booger unto your sily little general*so anyway who's winning.
>>488973163>POOR to rico
>>488972979>We are willing to dieCould you just please die a little faster?
>>488973174He wants to be immortal, being a god
>>488972979>We are willingWhile shitposting on 4chan . Go sign a concract nigger.
>>488972876>proto-ukrainians that you all derive your bullshit from DID consider themselves a russian varietyStop conflating words please. They considered and were Rus, at the point where Moscow didn't exist. It does not mean that magically and retroactively modern day Kremlin is the lord of 8th century Varangians lol.
>>488973275POOR to Rich in spanish. takes a holandés (rightful spanish clay) to get it....
>>488972876Russians do not exist. You're all Genghis' grandsons.
Trump is antichrist, they warned us
>"There were never any earlier red lines!" in multiple threadsKEK
>>488967944that is the weird thing about cold war>easy come, easy gowesterners "won" in a sense they did not actually have to make real sacrifices. Like taking hits from bombs. While vatnik union imploded in a combination of a weakened imperial center and the internal tidal forces that were ethnicities locked between its claws bolting for the door. Westerners dont really understand what the vatnik imperial construct is and this leads to widely adopted outlandish claims like afghanistan caused its implosion while in reality it was a backwater war playing side note to the main event. Why? Because ameircans had vietnam and west euros had the 1968 retard wave at the same time so they project their own "societal shocks" onto the east. Hell, to this day they still refuse to really admit WW2 was half assed and that vatniks started the war with the germans together. Before turning on each other like two thieves in a knife fight over the pile of loot they robbed together
>>488970497nothing never happens
>>488972679>the things I want are rights.>the things you want are not rightsI know Russians are used to appealing to authority but God damn, that's sad logic.>>488972641Even if they had a goal, they'd never reach it. Let's say that tomorrow morning, every Russian soldier wakes up with a fresh, cohesive, achievable plan to nail every tactical victory in Ukraine.It wouldn't matter.You can win every battle and stil lose the war. Look at Russia in Afghanistan or America in Vietnam.All ukraine needs to do is hang on and the Russian economy will go tits up next year unless Daddy Xi bails Putin out, which he won't do because it would be bad for China.
>>488974352World war 2 narrative in the west is almost entirely written by communistsIt is hilarious
post yfw the nooks are falling
>>488975507He looks like a Zombie
>>488975017>You can win every battle and stil lose the war.Honestly, this is a saying that I've had the impulse to drop continuously regarding this war, but then I wouldn't want to imply that Russia's disgusting meatwaves somehow translate to "winning every battle".
>>488975607The next Call of Duty game better include a Pidor Zombies mode
>>488975730I think it depends on what you define as "winning." If "plant a Russian flag on a bunch of craters that used to be a city" is what you think victory is, then if you turn a city into a moonscape and lose 70,000 people taking it - like Bakhmut - then you can say you won the battle.But you won't win the war because, contrary to popular belief, the war is not the sum of the battles.The difficulty with this war is teasing out what winning means for each side and how to align them. For Russia, it's simple: they want either Russia to directly own Ukraine or for Ukraine to be a puppet state. For Ukraine, it's more complex. Do they win if they kick Russia back to the 1991 lines? Yeah. Will they do that? Probably not, but this war has surprised me before. Is just existing when the dust settles a win for Ukraine? What if there are territory concessions?None of these things is the sum of Pokrovsk and Bhakmut.
>>488972152god this anatomy...
Lol, Ukrainan TV reporting that Russians blew up Mint in Kiev.Why Ukraine needs mint, all the money for those beggars are coming from the US and EU anyways.
Here's my take on the whole situation.If Ukrainians want to have their own state, that's fine. As long as they don't force Russians to be a part of it, as they're currently trying to do in Crimea and Donbass. That's wrong.However, it's clear that the current Ukrainian government is corrupt beyond repair. They are only looking out for themselves and not for Ukrainians. The decision to continue the war indefinitely instead of negotiating with Russia proves this.So, my opinion is that Putin should just take over the whole of Ukraine. I know he only wants to liberate the Russian regions, but somebody needs to clean house in Kiev. Putin has a proven track record of getting shit done.Then in 20 years or so, we can try the whole Ukrainian Independence thing again. In a smaller Ukrainian ethnostate centred around Kiev and Western Ukraine.
>>488973010face of ‘tism
>>488967944The people in charge of the western countries most well equipped to help Russia and the former Soviet Union were simultaneously distracted by other matters, chiefly the Gulf War, and were caught up in a wave of neoconservative austere thinking and pie in the sky free market idealism. America was happy to supply food to a collapsed Soviet Union, we waste so much of it ourselves that it's no big loss to give the extra we have away at cost. But to actually help the post-Soviet world to avoid corruption and each part to express itself as an independent state was not geopolitically advantageous or inspiring of confidence, nor was it ideologically consistent with the common delusion that American soft cultural power would do the heavy lifting for us.In fact, the US was strongly opposed to the Soviet Union splitting into independent states at all, just for our own political convenience, and George H.W. Bush famously discouraged Ukrainians from asserting their independence just because he preferred treating with half the world as a single bloc, and didn't want to complicate denuclearization.If America and western Europe had offered unconditional guidance and support to former Soviet states to establish healthy capitalist economies without selling out to foreign companies or establishing corrupt governments, the former Soviet Union would look much different today and we wouldn't be in this situation.
>>488972109I haven’t even played Clear Sky ;_;
What did China mean by this? https://safety4sea.com/suspicions-of-sabotage-after-undersea-cables-in-baltic-sea-are-cut/
>>488967944>I am almost willing to come up with a conspiracy where authoritarianism is deliberately revived in eastern Europe every generation on purpose, I can't imagine why, but nothing else makes sense.So, you've noticed it too? The West seems to always sow the seeds for the next existential crisis as they resolve the last. Napoleon's defeat set the stage for WWI, which set the stage for WWII, which set the stage for the Cold War, which set the current stage for imminent WWIII.
>>488976768>If Ukrainians want to have their own state, that's fine. As long as they don't force Russians to be a part of it, as they're currently trying to do in Crimea and Donbass. That's wrong.So if Mexico invaded Texas, you'd support giving it to them because the Mexicans who moved there are forced to be apart of the United States?
>>488976768>t. concerned Texas oblast citizen
>>488976768>So, my opinion is that Putin should just take over the whole of Ukrainethey have been trying that for almost 3 years.it has gone very badly.hundreds of thousands of russians are dead and in 3 years they've only managed to advance 12 miles from donetsk airport
>>488972109I dropped Shadow of Chernobyl before Agroprom because I am too much of the pussy to face a Controller. I liked the atmosphere, though.
>>488973010It is almost 2025 and aliens still haven't mastered skin fitting costumes.
>see STALKER thread on /v/>open it>nothing but seething ziggers pushing their retardation Why are they like this
Two more weeks of THD
>>488980572>>488980415Nuke russia then
>Nuke Russia then
>>488980703If you don't like ukrainians dying and defending their country then maybe do something with the aggressor. Or just shut up, pathetic bot
>>488980612Whats it like being a Ukrainian cowering in russia?
>>488980703is that another russian memorial piece?
How the fuck you naive fuckers think that Trump will stop Russians in Ukraine ???HOW ??What? Trump will threaten Putin that he will nuke Moscow ??Well, Russia then will nuke Washington !!!How can you idiots be so dumb and gullible.Tramp yaps a lot, but this is only hot air.Do you really (Fucking Really) think that the US and Europe will start nuclear war with RUSSIA over that corrupt evil shithole Ukraine ??REALLY ??
>>488980415>>488980572>article literally from Russia todayIt was either this or some pajeetnews. Ziggers love cropping out any source from their 'articles' for a reason.I guess we know who the NPC is.
>>488980988The only one threatening nukes is the kremlin cuckold you illiterate meme flag faggot
>>488976768the fact that nobody ITT knows this is a Russian shill copypasta is staggering
>>488981182Reminder ukraine has been considered more corrupt than Russia for 20 years
>>488980783What is like being a retard and paid for reposting shitty memes? Pathetic
>>488981353>ukraine is corrupt!>therefore we must plunder the entire country and sell it off to Russian (((oligarchs)))
>>488981398I do it for free because I have principles and convictions. You wouldn’t know anything about that being a coward bitch hiding in russia
>>488980703What is that supposed to mean?Artistic suicide?Here have a realistic Russian Blowing head off
>>488981678not my problem. Ukraine is not in nato. Not in the eu. Not even western
>>488981353Reminder Russia leads the pack in HIV/AIDS, Heroin use, Alcholism, Suicide, etcBut you're also wrongUkraine rank:104Russian rank:141Out of a total of 180 listed lmao.https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2023
>>488981721You're nothing more but propaganda spreading bot
>>488967334The oligarchs are doing that. This is the takeover of EVERYTHING by the likes of klaus, putin and the gang. Zelinsky. All of them. They are seizing EVERYTHING in russia that is what their part in this damn scam is about. There is no scam as lucrative as war and this time the greedy fucks want - THE LOT,- everything. It’s why i get a stress head on at their silly little shill cucks. They cuck to the monsters who are doing this to their countries? It’s very easy to buy into the propaganda and just go along. I could do it here but i never have instead i call them out over the tricks they pull. Chinese are barely human so you expect it from them, it’s like talking to Poo but if Poo had been living on the mars. Moon Poo. Fucking aliens. But Russians look more like human beans - apart from the old having very big faces thing - so you expect better.You lot don’t make it any easier, winding them up.
>>488981721>I have principles and convictions>posts literal russian state propagandalel, lmao even
>>488982032All that system should be destroyed, not only oligarchs, putin, communists
>>488981257>The only one threatening nukes is the kremlin cuckold you illiterate meme flag faggotWow, you are so violently angry, like a little menstruating bitch. LOLTake a chill pill delicate scared pupy.
>>488981792If it's not your problem then why do you want Russia to win so badly?
>>488981966Little angry girl, stop posting false data.
>>488980572Palestine is the NPC thing, Ukraine never really caught on.The surprising thing about Ukraine is how little western media covers it.Have you ever considered that you're perhaps the NPC?
>>488982324Nice projection now look at>>488980988 again and tell me that's not how an actual menstruating bitch types.With random ALL CAPS anda bunch ????with obligatroylinebreaks??forsomereason!!REALLY??fucking faggot
>>488982324what is supposed to be the significance of the truman quote? are you suggesting that russia using a nuclear weapon would end the war?
>>488982596Western media covers it so little because they are getting their asses kicked. They cant spin a negative into a positive. >>488982339Ukraine can fight and fund its own wars. Not my problem.
>>488982848It's your problem, you can't close your eyes and repeat the same thing over and over, bot
Reminder ukraine is not even a sovereign nation
>>488982848how are they getting their 'asses kicked'? i'm quite astute on the matters of operational level military conflict, I had an intense nerd period of doing pen and paper wargaming, particularly at army corps level, and from a genuinely impartial perspective I would not at all describe Russia's experience in Ukraine as anything along the lines of 'kicking ass'.
>>488982507I'm sure in your mind you're very based>> MUH GLOBOHOMO>> IT'S DA JOOS.>> BASED POOTIN>> BASED TRUMPsilly contrarian
>>488982848>Western media covers it so little because they are getting their asses kicked. They cant spin a negative into a positive.>he says on day 1000 of his 3 day SMO in which not single stated objective was reached by Russia and is still fighting an hours drive away from the russian border where they started 1000 days ago>>488983075Neither is Russia lmao.
>>488982339>If it's not your problem then why do you want Russia to win so badly?Because Russia is a good guy here, and Ukrain is a lying evil swine controlled by blood thirsty war hungry evil Western "faggot based democracy". Just few days ago Zelensky promised that Ukraione will legalize gay marriages. LOLIs that what you degenerate faggots are fighting for, getting over million of your soldiers killed by now ??How fucking disgusting and despicable you faggots are.
>>488983183>UKRAINE IS LE GAY!!!!>meanwhile in Russia
>>488982848But the matter was that supposedly people are indoctrinated about ukraine in the same manner they are about covid. covid was not at all deadly yet they managed to make it out to be a highly threatening virus (despite them having previously said it was not). So you're making a contradiction if you say that they can't cover Ukraine because Russia is 'kicking ass' - even if it were somehow the case of that if you look at Ukraine and it's difficult to hide the 'ass kicking', they could still easily spin any such matter far more easily than it is to spin that ncov19 is deadly. Do you follow? This isn't very complex stuff. Do you understand that if individuals need things such as this pointed out to them, then it's fair to conclude they're not an intelligent individual and someone who has great difficulty making sense of the world or just spews tedious nonsensical garbage like a tedious shill.
>>488983183The globohomo west creates neo nazi paramilitaries?
It's been really hard for the russia-worshipping niggers to find out their messiah putin can't even conquer all of Ukraine, let alone the entire world. Now all they can do is cry cry cry that the world isn't helping them win.
>>488983075>Meaningless pic.Then why did the Budapest Memorandum ever happened?
>>488983183>DID YOU KNOW ZELENSKY IS GOING TO LEGALIZE GAY MARRIAGE? NOT IN BASED RVSSIA!!
>>488983183The tedious thing about a shill is that it's all so dishonest and contradictory.On one hand you discuss Ukraine and the west and so on, but yet you completely omit that Russia is flooded with hostile immigrants and that Russia is a dying nation with no children yet is sending hundreds of thousands of Russians to be amputated and killed in a pointless brother war.
LMAO KEK
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>>488983553I can't see from the tumbnail whats in your image.
>>488983075But by that definition, neither is Russia
>>488983183>GLOBOHOMO IS GHEY>TRANNNNNIESSSSSSS!!!!>TRANNNNNIESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!Boy, I sure hope you don't do research on Russia being closet ghey and anal abuses
>>488983602LOLVillage idiot detected, hahaha
>>488972855>>488972952you guys are cringe
Now that Ukraine got permission to strike inside Russia, what are you going to blame when nothing changes?
>>488967130TRANNY THREAD IS UP
>>488983717You can click on thumbnails to make them bigger, retarded third world subhuman.>>488983784>I FUCKING LOVE TAJIKS!
>>488983898>You can click on thumbnails to make them bigger,How so ?
This is the picture of a nation on its death bed. Much of that younger demographic in pic is hostile invaders who hate Russia and the Russian people. This is a nation that has been utterly betrayed over the last 20 years. The education system has been entirely gutted and there has been no initiative to encourage Russians to have children.
>>488983784You do not communicate or reason like a White man. Why is this commonly found amongst posters who are attacking Ukraine?
>>488983997Just throw more men into the meatgrinder, that should fix it
>>488983978First day on 4chan, eh, Mr. Brown Third World Shill?
>>488983978so when are you joining Texas?
Let me get this straight, Ukraine used ATCMs on Russian soil and Putin is taking it like a little bitch?
>>488984044>You do not communicate or reason like a White man.
>>488983797Good luck living in the world with neuralink zombies and AI
>>488984181Does it not caused you to reflect on yourself that someone only has to read a small response from you and they can recognise that you're not White due to the infantile nature and low intelligence of your responses?
>>488984197>living in the world with neuralinkFar too advanced for you commie slut
>>488984333https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rver8vjc04UWatch this video dumbass. And elon is friend with CPP and putin
I love how white Brits are getting overrun by brown skin people in UK.Absolute delight to watch. LMAO KEK
>>488984412CCP*
>>488984412>Watch thisI have access too your top programs in case you fail
>>488983997Putin 100% will do a childlessness tax like the soviets did, Russia population once looked WAY worse than that since WW1 - Russian Revolution - WW2 in a row killed over half of their young men population but that tax pretty much kept Russia birth rate above the replacement rate until soviet union fell
>>488984412David Icke is a lolcow Putin shill
>>488984044Do you really believe he has the self-reflection to realize?
>>488984622At no point in Russian history has there ever been anything like this of Russians not having children.
>>488984412>implying Neurolink is ever going to work or anyone willing to sacrifice brain for a Facebook app interfaceOverhype shit is overhype like the chatgpt hitting the wallAnd where the hell is the Hyperloop Elon promised?
>>488984673>the self-reflection600,000 ziggers killed
>>488984622Every developed country is having population drops even without war, Russia won't recover
>>488984668I disagree about google in the video it's elon musk. Also i know nothing about him just interesting video how AI will be used
>>488984769we're at 700k
>>488984762He and his chinese masters will kill you otherwise, they're testing that shit in china with social rating, total mind control
>>488967195
>>488984769Good. Look at my flag again, you ugly fat fuck.
>>488984814Except that Russia is under a authoritharian regime unlike any other developed country and if Putin wants to put a childlessness tax it will happen lol, there were people in his government already trying to pass it earlier this year, once (or if) this war ends it will 100% happen
>>488968427Yes
>>488984823>chinese masters>>488984820>about googlenuke these russian dogs out of existence
>>488985095
OH NOES!!TRACTOR PLANT IS ON FIRE
>>488984728From 1940 to 1945 Russia birth rate dropped from 4,73 to 2,58, back then this was the lowest in the world, WW2 completely destroyed their birth rates after 30 years of sending all their young men to war and if the childlessness tax didn't happen Russia would have gone extinct, as I said before Russia in authoritharian regime and Putin will probably do it again
>>488985248WE DECIDE HISTORY TONIGHT HATO BROS
>>488985069>Except that Russia is under a authoritharian regimeSo are Chinks, people don't have sex just because government says so.
>>488985367>2.58that isn't low lol>1940 to 1945because all of the russian men were conscripted>lowest in the worldbecause all of the russian men were conscripted lolRussia is not coming back. It has total demographic collapse, even worse than Italy, it's similar to Korea or China or Japan, or even worse than that.
>>488983113I like my cheese mouldy and holey
Where do I buy tickets to the Russian Federation NATO Nuclear Wastelands? Is this the correct Thermonuclear Kiosk?
>>488984728>At no point in Russian history has there ever been anything like this of Russians not having children.>>488984449LOl, and that's why white trash Brits are bringing so many brown people to UK, right retardo ?? Because white trash Brits don't have children, no more white trash bastards, Kek.
>>488985571At least Korea and Japan have healthy economies. Russia will have an economic collapse before a demographic one.
>>488985774Show was canceled, cuckold in kremlin did nothing except watch. Sad.
>>488985878>cuckold in kremlin did nothingSheesh I guess I win this one?
>>488985987No, i nook
>>488968427I like great tits
>>488986051I nook back
>>488985740>Kaas.Maar natuurlijk, cheese cake is ook mijn favoriet
>>488986094Weird english (sorry)
>>488986051Bitch
>>488986288That was the last red line
>>488986328Red line these nukes asshole
>>488986240I'm talking to a Dutch guy in their own language and their strange love of cheesealso because of ex-colony
>>488986328really? what color are the new lines?
>>488983183In all the tyranny you pretend that’s your motivation. You are just chatting shit, meme flag. Why take up space in a thread with that nobody is going to believe that’s your motivation in a country where you bum people to death. It has nothing to do with anything.So it is proven you know your leaders are in the wrong, by telling lies fir them you know you are too. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a8MZBUoQt68
>>488986328https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAntPqwPx7sDont look upyou have to go back
>>488972641>mercy is just a petty wordRussians are literally the demons from frieren. Human speech is just a trap to lure humans into thinking they can be reasoned with or have peace negotiations.
radioactive russians for sale ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>488986551TL:DRWall of fucking text.Learn how to properly compose your posts, maybe I will read them next time, yapping dolt.
>>488986438Only because of you i know about Suriname and that you speak dutch there. And i'm not proud of that
>>488986798>i'm not proud of thatI am going to eat you with HATO sauce
>>488986751>5 sentences>wall of textlmao
>>488986906That was the last red line
>>488987017I am going to red line every fusion bomb in the aresel up your ass ivan
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>>488987265>bakingPut this image in OP>>488983183
>>488987017https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X6kOWttFQo
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>>488987017They call me the atomic lumberjack ivan
