why do the elite worship a roman pagan idol in private?
It makes idiots talk.
>>488969631It's a private rich men's club in san fran and a campground north of it. Here's a video:https://youtu.be/uq5x8CRBybI?si=Lh8zPENK5DjuQjkjIt's a campground where the rich get to have a private redwood campground without plebs around to ruin it. With some good boots, some night vision/thermal and a little motivation, you can sneak onto the property.
>>488969631they dont worship it, yah filthy antisemite yah they just do "plays"
>>488969631Because
>>488969631thats not a roman god.
>>488969631They are narcissistic dumbasses and fantasy based manipulation works too well on them.Other times it's something symbolic.
>>488971323yes it is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minerva
>>488969631>the eliteyou would never see the real elite >worship it's theatrics, not religion>a roman nope and you have no idea what Rome wasmore important, WHEN it was>pagan idolnow you're just pretending to be retarded>in privatemoderately private, it could be done in an underground bunker but why bother when it's just bonding fiesta for faggy assholes
>>488973281wow thats a whole lot of weird cope
It’s a symbol of wisdom. The owl sees in the dark. The enlightened (them) can see, while the profane (you) stumble around in the dark.
>>488969631Stolas isn't a Roman deity.
>>488973876Lilith sees through all the darkness and lies of the entities that have been plaguing us for 1000s and 1000s of years with tricks, manipulation, and negativity. Her wisdom could set humanity free from it's hate. She only wants humanity to be free of oppressing forces
>>488969631Because the United States is an enlightenment nation rooted in ancient civilizations like Egypt and Greco-Roman roots. The founding fathers were mostly deists as well. Since when is the United States a Christian nation that deems things "pagan"?
>>488969631they don't want to be seen as supporters of white
>>488969758honestly this if i were richer than most i'd do some bizarre shit frequently just to fuck with the poors
>>488974118Lilith is the wisdom angel? Is that why eglin shills her succ-gen every day on /x/?
>>488974281>eglin shillsWho's that? I'm just someone who is collaborating with Lilith so I can learn about personal freedom and not being opressed by the current system that is ran on hate and fear
>>488969631>romanNo they worship kike idols
>>488969631Dunno. Why isn't the movie Cabiria as popular as Birth of a Nation despite making many of the same innovations in film a year before the latter?
>>488974281>Lilith is the wisdom angel? Is that why eglin shills her succ-gen every day on /x/?holy fuck, is that shit still up? i haven't been in /x/ in years
>>488969631Because they are real and were most probably communicated directly by them.
>>488969631If we had alot of money and were super powerful we would probably build a huge pepe statue and do stupid shit
>>488969631>implying it's Roman You already know it's Jewish >why do dumb fucks worship a Semitic Jewish idol in the open
>>488972416That is not Minerva that is Semitic God Moloch. Minerva doesn't entertain evil people.
>roman
>>488976146They share their God. Minerva = Athena up to the animals attributed to the deity, the owl and the snake. They are both godess of wisdom and whatnot. Same shit, romans were very unoriginal.
>>488970336>?si=Lh8zPENK5DjuQjkj?
>>488969631"European Paganism" is the new wrapping paper for satanic gnosticism and kabbalah.Sam Hyde is a "mithraist" Freemason who worships Satan. Fishtank is a recruitment show.
>>488976397That is neither Minerva nor Athena.
European paganism is the new version of 2010s internet atheism.
>>488976452I agree with european paganism being suspicious, but why you gotta bring sam hyde into this? The guy's a based right winger who owns the leftist soÿboys like icuckz and aniho
>>488976789Sam Hyde is a Freemason recruiting zoomers for good boy points, unironically evil.
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>>488969631the cults from rome are alive my fren
>>488969631that's some jewnigger desert demon, christcuck.
>>488976452>Sam Hyde worships SatanIf true, why did he tell the creator of Hazbin Hotel to kill herself basically?And why is he friends with Jay Dyer?Sam Hyde is just a meat golem for Nazism, he doesn't have spiritual ideals.
>>488969631Prove that it's "the elite" in pic related.
>>488969631That's actually a Semitic god worshipped by baby sacrificing Carthaginians
>>488977105Sam Hyde is just a queer old boy
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>>488977224>That's actually a Semitic godi admit i still have no idea what the owl's name is. everyone says mlk but that's a generic term.
>>488969631>whyThe answer is always jews, you retard faggot pooleaf.
>>488977268His faggotry comes from his own insecurity.I hate to use Jew Freudian psychology on a man, because nothing gets a faggot harder than Freudian psychology, but his obsession with deviancy and the arts-student Reddit dupe comes from the fact that he feels he was duped by his own art-student upbringing.His whole hatred of artsy leftist deviants is hatred of his own wasted life and potential
>>488977224>>488977448>>488976051"Mlk" is a term used for the sacrifice itself and it's usage as "Moloch" is a Rabbinical lie to cover up the fact that the Jews obviously sacrificed people to Yahweh in the past.However, there is likely a Moabite god named "Milcom" which might be what the Jews tried conflating "Moloch" with.
>>488977638*Ammonite, not Moabite.
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>>488977638Based American Anon. This might be the only site where I can get censored info like this. I will look it up.
>>488977105Sam Hyde fucks trannies and dudes. He yepls JEWS occasionally to appear right wing. He's a scamming grifter loser. His only good bit was HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THAT SCHOOL SHOOTING and that meme has been running for almost a decade now.
>>488977850>chemoshkek careful there, the christians dont want to hear their god Elohim = Chemosh, the baby devourer.
>>488977977He is actually the great great grandson of Leon Trotsky.
>>488977850>>488977638>However, there is likely a Moabite god named "Milcom" which might be what the Jews tried conflating "Moloch" with.thanks, will check it out.>"Mlk" is a term used for the sacrifice itself and it's usage as "Moloch" is a Rabbinical lie to cover up the fact that the Jews obviously sacrificed people to Yahweh in the past.i agree with what you're saying, but from what i understand, the children were sacrificed to not only yahweh but the lesser semitic deities as well like satan, beelzebub, asherah.
>>488977850>Muh Bible ScholarsThey may try to gaslight you about everything in the Bible being wholesale original, but you should know that there is 0 mention of Abraham, Moses, or the 12 Tribes until the 4th century BC in the historical record, even in Hebrew texts which we have from Persia or Egypt (those records show that the Hebrews were Henotheists who worshipped Yahweh). Considering that the Bible is a 4th century BC product, you should be cynical towards its claims especially towards human sacrifice and Yahweh. It's kind of weird that Yahweh demands human sacrifice of the first born which can be redeemed by money in Exodus, and that Jephthah's daughter is literally sacrificed to Yahweh, and there are verses which compare Yahweh's wrath to a blazing human sacrifice to Yahweh; but then all of sudden he says "NOOOOO I never commanded such a thing why are the Jews offering sacrifices to me" To be fair, almost all of the pantheons had human sacrifices offered to them, but this fixation of rival-cults offering human sacrifice and Yahweh being a good boy God who never did nuthin wrong is ridiculous.
>>488978031Athena never stood for degeneracy or other evil stuff and would smite degenerates. People wrongly connect that owl with Athena.
>>488978233say what you mean, anon. let's hear it.
>>488978691I already did. The Semites, along with other civilized cultures, offered human sacrifice, usually as a mean of taking out the trash of society - rapists, robbers, murderers, etc., because back then, there wasn't a fully functional prison system. A lot of ancient tribes didn't even have toilets let alone a sophisticated prison system.At a certain point of development, the Jews had to excuse the human sacrifice in the past and edited the Bible to show that this was never acceptable to Yahweh. But you see this also with the Greek pantheon and Norse pantheon too. There are hints that the Greeks offered human sacrifice to Zeus and then stories which are told to show that human sacrifice is bad and we should move on from it. So in the Bible, there are obvious traces of human sacrifice - In Exodus, Yahweh shows he's the Jews' chosen people and a better God because although he took the first-born of the Egyptians, he demands the same of the Israelites but allows the Israelites to pay some money to redeem their children, unlike the Egyptians. Jephthah offers his virgin daughter to Yahweh as a human sacrifice, and this is in the bible, and Psalms 18 describes God's wrath as a human sacrifice altar offered up to Yahweh, with coals being inflamed to Yahweh, and fire pouring through his nostrils.
>>488969631The redwood forests are extremely cozy.. I can't blame them for feeling comfortable enough to perform occult ceremonies to contact interdimensional demonic deities. By the way, I had a very real and direct UFO sighting in a town relatively close to this place, unmistakable non-human technology or entity.
>>488978691>Historicity of the BibleIf you have an hour or so, give this a listen:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEEhqRxfFck
>>488969631Why do you?Oh wait you're not American you're still have a monarch lmao fucking subject bow down faggot
>>488979058>The Semites, along with other civilized cultures, offered human sacrifice, usually as a mean of taking out the trash of society - rapists, robbers, murderers, etc., because back then, there wasn't a fully functional prison system.so all those babies jews were sacrificing were rapists and criminals. now it all makes sense.>At a certain point of development, the Jews had to excuse the human sacrifice in the past and edited the Bible to show that this was never acceptable to Yahweh.oh i agree.>There are hints that the Greeks offered human sacrifice to Zeusenemy combatants, or children? big difference.i agree with 99% of what you're saying, i just noted that this owl fellow was likely in yhwh's pantheon.
>>488979230If you don't, basically this>We have thousands of Hebrew fragments from Persia and Egypt and we have 0 mention of Moses, Abraham, the Bible as a text, or the Torah>The rituals show Zoroastrian worship with Yahweh as the head of a pantheon, along with an obsession with magic, rituals, and amulets invoking Yahweh and other gods' names to ward off evil spirits and ask for guidance in life
>>488969631Because jews steal ancient Aryan symbols, history, and figures, then misrepresent them to suit their schizoid ideations. This trickles down to masonic faggotry
>>488979230i will.
>>488979826The thing is we don't know, what we have in Carthage are Roman records which claim that the Carthaginians offered their children to their gods, and we found human sacrifice altars and baby remains. But we can't trust Roman propaganda against the Carthaginians, because these "child sacrifices" might have easily just as been a blessing to the gods for children who were ill or dying, which was very typical accross multiple cultures and religions. In Exodus there's a commandment where Yahweh demands the firstborn which can be redeemed with money, and a repeated theme of God not liking the first born child (Esau, Cain, etc.), however the Jews claim in the Talmud that this "redemption" of the first born was always for like pennies and was more of a symbolic gesture, and even if a person didn't have pennies, the Synagogue community would provide it on loan - and it was a message about how serious it was God loves them to remind them that he saved them from Egypt, something like that.So you're going to get tons of different answers. Obviously someone who loves the Abrahamic religions is going to give a jaded account that shows human sacrifice was never a part of the equation, and someone who hates them is going to show that the Jews offered babies to Yahweh always.I think it's somewhere in the Middle, for a couple of reasons:1. Baby sacrifice like that suggests a really primitive social organization, and Carthage was powerful and rich enough to challenge and almost destroy Rome2. Phoenicia's culture really laid the groundwork for significant elements of Greek culture (assuming that Carthage's human sacrifice came from Phoenicia), such as their alphabet and elements of their pantheon, so my guess is that whatever it was, it couldn't be too dissimilar to the Greeks.My two cents, as I think Early Judaism probably reflected earlier Phoenician / Canaanite religion.
>>488969631They do it in public and people ignore it.They’re part of a satanic cult that goes back thousands of years. It never died.
>>488980619i like that you're able to find a middle ground there, as you're right, it's usually polarized. >Baby sacrifice like that suggests a really primitive social organizationdo you still think that jews are sacrificing children to this day though? sometimes they keep these seemingly primitive traditions alive for a long time, but what about this one?
>>488973281wrong. the real elite are exactly who we all think they are. they are the rulers of the western countries, they are the royals, they are the elite politicians, they are the members of the national banks.. they are exactly who we all think they are. all the elites who have come on here and acted like the real elites are these hidden fucks who no one knows who are, is all total fucking bullshit. it's a larp and a distraction, so people won't naturally turn on their very public leaders when and if everything were to go to total shit.
>>488969631These so called "elites" don't know what they're in for.>Captcha: 0SATKD
>>488969631Because when you take Christianity out of Western Civilization, what remains is Pagan Roman Law and Greek Philosophy. Athena/Sophia was the goddess of Philosophy.>>488977638Cope. Mlk was the title of chthonic gods like Nergal and Ninurta, who the Canaanites knew as Horon and Melqart, the second one worshiped as the supreme god of Tyre, the Phoenician city-state that founded Carthage, which as you may know, had Tophets for Baal- Hammon, that the Romans called African Saturn. Saturn was the planet of Ninurta, whose sign is Capricorn, a ram-fish, Baal-Hammon had the horns of a ram and Carthage was a maritime power (Thalassocracy) before Rome.The ram-fish was the animal of the water god Enki (whom the Canaanites knew as Dagon). His association with Ninurta is that he was also identified with Ditanu and Amurru, the auroch-king of the Rephaim (called Tidanum, from which the word Titans came) and ancestor/national god of the Amorites associated with the constellation of Centaurs (Guardian of the Abzu/Primordial Waters), which identified him with the Canaanite El, another Saturnine deity that the Hittites called Kumarbi, son of Anu who castrated him by biting him his penis and was defeated by his thunder god son Teshub. Does this remind you of anything?
>>488982799>Johann Adam Weishaupt (pronounced [ˈjoːhan ˈʔaːdam ˈvaJshaʊpt]; 6 February 1748 – 18 November 1830) was a German philosopher, professor of civil law and later canon law, and founder of the Illuminati. According to John Robison's Proofs of a Conspiracy (1798), the third degree of the Bavarian Illuminati was called Minerval or Brother of Minerva (Roman name of the Greek goddess Athena, whose symbol was an Owl), in honour of the goddess of learning. Later, this title was adopted for the first initiation of Aleister Crowley's OTO rituals>Bohemian Grove is a restricted 2,700-acre (1,100 ha) campground at 20601 Bohemian Avenue, in Monte Rio, California, United States, belonging to a private San Francisco–based gentlemen's club known as the Bohemian Club. In mid-July each year, Bohemian Grove hosts a more than two-week encampment of some of the most prominent men in the world>The Seal of California depicts the Goddess Athena/Minerva. Her having been born fully-grown symbolizes California having become a state without first being a territory>As one can plainly see by the above comparison, the owl statue, situated within the library at the Bohemian Club headquarters in San Francisco, is an exact replica of the one at the Acropolis – thus, there is no doubt that the “Bohos” (by duplicating a famous statue located at the chief temple dedicated to Athena) are alluding to Athena/Minerva, or the goddess of wisdom. Furthermore, the statue in the Bohemian Club has a plaque on its front base, stating: “Replica of Ancient Athenian Owl” (see the “Inside The Bohemian Club” video at approximately 07:24)>"Weaving Spiders Come Not Here," the motto on the seal of the Bohemian Club, may well be alluding to the myth of Arachne; the mere fact that it is accompanied by the owl, which represents Minerva, is significant and noteworthy (and too semiotically sound as to have been a mere coincidence)
>>488982962>Athena was originally the Aegean goddess of the palace, who presided over household crafts and protected the king. A single Mycenaean Greek inscription 𐀀𐀲𐀙𐀡𐀴𐀛𐀊 a-ta-na po-ti-ni-ja appears at Knossos in the Linear B tablets from the Late Minoan II-era "Room of the Chariot Tablets"; these comprise the earliest Linear B archive anywhere. Although Athana potnia is often translated as "Mistress Athena", it could also mean "the Potnia of Athana", or the Lady of Athens. However, any connection to the city of Athens in the Knossos inscription is uncertain. A sign series a-ta-no-dju-wa-ja appears in the still undeciphered corpus of Linear A tablets, written in the unclassified Minoan language. This could be connected with the Linear B Mycenaean expressions a-ta-na po-ti-ni-ja and di-u-ja or di-wi-ja (Diwia, "of Zeus" or, possibly, related to a homonymous goddess), resulting in a translation "Athena of Zeus" or "divine Athena". Similarly, in the Greek mythology and epic tradition, Athena figures as a daughter of Zeus (Διός θυγάτηρ; cfr. Dyeus). However, the inscription quoted seems to be very similar to "a-ta-nū-tī wa-ya", quoted as SY Za 1 by Jan Best. Best translates the initial a-ta-nū-tī, which is recurrent in line beginnings, as "I have given">The term labyrinth derives from 'labrys', which was a double-sided axe used by Cretan priestesses for ceremonial purposes. The primary goddess worshipped in Knossos was Potnia, an earth mother goddess archetype at the top of the Minoan pantheon. A Linear B tablet discovered in Knossos associates the labyrinth with the goddess Potnia, through the line, 'Mistress of the Labyrinth’, Potnia meaning Mistress, or 'Potnia of the Labyrinth'. Thus the Minotaur could be taken to be Potnia's bull, as it would seemingly be her labyrinth
>>488981366If they are, I wouldn't knowI think the Jews promote degeneracy and social destruction for two reasons:1. Jews tend to aggregate in urban liberal settings due to their religion and go with the flow with that urban setting's culture in order to feel more accepted and a part of who they are, such that when urban settings become degenerate, Jews play a key role in that degeneracy;2. Deep-seated psychological hatred of whites that's rooted not only in culture / religion where they are the victimized minority by white people, but also just deep-seated psychological hatred towards groups of people who tend to have attractive physical traits that they lack (blonde, blue-eyed, white people).I do think the European blood sacrifice likely happened, but that was more of a consequence of interest in Kabbalistic witchcraft (a hangover from the Greek Medean-Hecate cult, as Jews have preserved elements of the Greek religion via Kabbalah which not even Catholics have preserved) along with the fact that Orthodox Jews have a tendency to view goys like beasts, which might have led to some radical Jews using goys as a substitute for the goat of Yom Kippur / the Passover lamb. By no means were either of these two things common or an inherent part of the religion, but deviations which naturally occurred within the religion.And by the way, this Jew supremacy over the goyim thing is a hangover of older Bronze-Iron age religions. The Egyptians viewed themselves the same way, as did the Romans. For example, the Romans believed themselves to be the divine offspring of Aphrodite due to descending from Aeneas, which gave them the divine right to conquer all the subhuman non-divine people.
>>488982962>>488983122greco-roman bros.. the optics..
>>488983122https://www.livius.org/sources/content/tacitus/tacitus-on-the-jews/>The Jews are said to have been refugees from the island of Crete (Minoan Civilization) who settled in the remotest corner of Libya in the days when, according to the story, Saturn was driven from his throne by the aggression of Jupiter. This is a deduction from the name Judaei by which they became known: the word is to be regarded as a barbarous lengthening of Idaei, the name of the people dwelling around the famous Mount Ida in Crete. A few authorities hold that in the reign of Isis the surplus population of Egypt was evacuated to neighboring lands under the leadership of Hierosolymus and Judas>They still fast frequently as an admission of the hunger they once endured so long, and to symbolize their hurried meal the bread eaten by the Jews is unleavened. We are told that the seventh day was set aside for rest because this marked the end of their toils. In course of time the seductions of idleness made them devote every seventh year to indolence as well. Others say that this is a mark of respect to Saturn, either because they owe the basic principles of their religion to the Idaei, who, we are told, were expelled in the company of Saturn and became the founders of the Jewish race, or because, among the seven stars that rule mankind, the one that describes the highest orbit and exerts the greatest influence is Saturn. A further argument is that most of the heavenly bodies complete their path and revolutions in multiples of seven
>>488983424https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Journals/JBL/16/Biblical_Notes/Image_of_Moloch*.html>Unlike the other heathen gods, Moloch had his place of worship outside the walls of Jerusalem. His idol stood in the innermost of seven chambers or cells, separated by grated doors (קנקליו, Low Greek κάγκελλοι). The worshipper who offered a bird was admitted to the first or outer cell; he who offered a goat, to the second; a sheep, to the third; a calf, to the fourth; a young steer, to the fifth; a bull, to the sixth; and he who brought his son as an offering alone might enter into the seventh, the presence chamber of the deity. The idol itself had the head of a calf upon a human body; its arms were extended, with the hands open like those of a man who is about to receive something from another. The image was hollow — we must suppose of metal4 — and was heated by a fire from within till the hands were glowing. The priests took the child from its father and laid it in the hands of Moloch, where it was burned to death; the priests meanwhile violently beating drums that the cries of the victim might not be heard by the father and move his heart>A slightly different version of the Midrash is found in Echa rabbathi, Tumathah (on Lam. 19). As in the Yelamedenu, the idol stood behind seven grated doors, which were opened in order to the worshippers who brought certain offerings. The image seems to be in the likeness of a man — nothing is said of a calf's head; it holds in its hands a copper pan, beneath which is placed a portable furnace, by means of which the pan is heated. The priests lay the child in the pan, start the fire in the furnace, and shout their acclamations before the father, saying, May it be pleasant to thee! may it be agreeable to thee! that the offerers might not hear the crying of their sons and draw back
>>488982799>The Jews were always monotheists and didn't worship the Canaanite godsYou're the one coping. You do know that Yahweh is called "El" and "Elohim" several times throughout the Bible, and he shares the same Sky-Father imagery as El, the warrior grandfather of the Gods? He even resides on Mount Zaphon in the Bible, which is where Baal's pantheon resided. The imagery of Yahweh over the angels likely originates from a synthesis between the Canaanite El pantheon and the Zoroastrian Ahura Mazda and his spirits.The Rephaim weren't always Biblical demon monsters or giants by the way, they were in Phoenician kings who were made immortal and resided with the gods; the name "Rephaim" means "the healed ones", and refers to kings who were "made pure and healed" and reside with the gods. We have Phoenician artifacts that are sufficient enough to describe this.This is even preserved in Judaism with "Raphael", which translates to "the healing one of God" or perhaps even, boldly, "El's child, the healing one". >The Bible is where the Titans came from!Nope, the Titans are largely primordial chaos creatures which are overthrown by the gods, a common motif in Indo-European and Near-Eastern religion, psychologically representing mankind's conquering and dominion over chaos
>>488983694i see you've met the brazilian schizo spammer.he shows up to flood a thread with nonsense if they detect people discussing the history of jewish sacrifice, especially when relating it to the bible.apparently we were having a good conversation. that's not allowed here.
>>488983493>Pabilsaĝ was partially syncretised with Ninurta, as attested in lexical lists such as the Nippur god list and the late Sultantepe god list. In the later text KAR 142, Pabilsaĝ is listed as a member of a group addressed as the "seven Ninurtas". Its other six members are given as Ninurta himself, Urash, Zababa, Nabu, Nergal and dDI.KUD>"You also carried along Sikkuth your king (Moloch) and Kiyyun, your images, the star of your gods which you made for yourselves." Amos 5:26>סִכּוּת proper name, of a divinity Amos 5:26 read probably *סַכּוּת, = Assyrian Sakkut (epithet of Adar-Ninip = Ninurta), SchrSK 1874, 332; COT AM 5, 26, compare TieleGeschichte. 528 BaeRel 239 RogersEncy>Ninurta, however, was identified with Saturn (not with Mars like his twin brother Nergal), called sag-uš, or in Accadian, kaimānu, "the steady star." Amos accused his countrymen of the Northern Kingdom (Samaria) of bearing their images, Sikkūt, "your king," and Kiyyūn. One of the names of Ninurta was Sakkut, otherwise called Etalak, who with his companion, Latarak, stood at the gate of sunrise to open the gate for the entering of Shamash. We have already seen that the title malik, "king," was popular in Canaan for the Sun-god, and in fact the Septuagint renders Amos v.26 by "ye have borne the tent of Moloch">Sikkuth is identified with Sag/k.kud/t (transliterated in a Mesopotamian god list as Sa-ak-ku-ut!), an astral deity known also from the "An" god list found at Ugarit (originally from Nippurian and other Mesopotamian sources, see Weidner, in bibl.), where it appears as [d]sag/k.k[ud]/t = [d]s[a]g/k.kud/t (Ugaritica, 5 (1969), 214, line 44, in other "non-Western" lists of gods and stars, Sikkuth has recently been identified with Ninurta (Ninib), one of the chief Mesopotamian deities (known also in the "West" and sometimes identified with Horon)>>488983694I'm not Christian/Abrahamic and I didn't say any of that. Stop projecting yourself onto me, retard.
>>488983934>Haurun, an underworld god, co-ruler of the underworld, twin brother of Melqart (Hercules), a son of Mot. Bethoron in Israel, takes its name from Horon. He is associated with the god Nergal>Clermont-Gannau mentions as a parallel a custom from the temple of Jerusalem, which really created the dismay of the High priest and was abolished. Each morning the Levites would rouse God with the call from Ps. 44,24: “Wake up, why do you sleep Adoni? Rise!” The Levites with this duty were called “rousers” (ma’urrîm). Melqart is the young sun-warrior tracing his route across the sea towards the sunset. He is a parallel to the Greek Heracles, who through 12 “labours” completes his task on earth. In the 11th he reaches the Garden of the Hesperides (paradise). The Heracles/Hercules-name seems to have some connection to Nergal (Hercal). Heracles also seems to have some similarity to Ninurta>Melqart comes from MLK, that means King and QRT, a Phoenician syllable meaning City. A similar etymology in Akkadian is Nergal. The name means "Lord of the Great City", a euphemism for the Underworld. The myths of Nergal and Heracles (which probably came from its variation "Hercal") have death by fire in common. Their deaths follow love, Heracles is given a 'love potion' that is actually a poison, and Nergal burns after sleeping with the Queen of the Underworld>Another possible candidate is Melqart, who, like Moloch, was seen as an infernal deity. In Ur inscriptions refer to the Maliku as infernal deities, and at Mari a god called Muluk was the patron of vows. His name appears to be related to the Akkadian Malik, meaning "king." Considering that there was a tendency in the ancient world to identify previously separate deities with each other, it could be that different localities had their own Maliku, their own local infernal deities like Nergal and Ninurta, who were regarded as "kings" of me dead and who had to be appeased from time to time by infant sacrifice
>>488982799>Harpocrates or Horon is the same god as MelqartI actually agree with this, but the contemporary scholarship hasn't made this obvious connection. Rising and dying gods of fertility who are connected to lotus flowers and the Ankh, the son of El / Osiris. >Mlk was the title of the Chthonic godsProof? In the Canaanite religion there does seem to be a class of evil wilderness spirits called the Shatayin, which may be where the "Shedim" or "Seirim" or "demons" come from, but how is that connected to Melqart and Horon, which you allege is a Chthonic god? >Ram-fish was the animal of the water god Enki and is where Baal Hammon comes fromWhat?
>>488976051Moloch is a bull, I think it's Marduk or just a random giant owl.
>>488976397It's not Athena lol
>>488984101>Mekel (Moloch) and Reshef are, therefore, titles of Nergal. Concerning the meaning of the verb rašāpu, "to blaze," "to burn," there is no doubt, and Nergal or, more correctly, Nergal as specifically the Fire-god Girra, is called rašpu, "the Scorcher," or rašubbu in Babylonia. The verb also occurs as šarāpu, and the god Sharrapu is a West Semitic deity, identified by the Assyrians with Lugalgirra, i.e., Nergal as Pest-god>The Janus nature of Nergal and Ninurta, the Sumerian personification of the sun's heat, is due to the division of the year into two parts, the period of fierce heat and the period of cold; hence he was known in the West as Sharrapu, "Scorcher," and Birdu, "Cold," "Chill," the Meslamtae of the Assyrians. The specialized aspects of this Sun-god resulted in his being on the one hand a devouring deity of fire and heat, of war and pestilence, and on the other hand as “he who rises from Meslam”>The design of the older Melqart (Fig. 30), who is represented as god of the chase riding on a sea-horse, may have led to his identification with Hercules, ubiquitously represented on coins clothed in a lion’s skin, drawing bow with arrow, and brandishing a massive club, the so-called Tyrian Hercules of Citium. There is another mythological connection between the Nergal-Malik type of Sungod of Tyre and the Greek deity, whose battles with the lions of Mount Cithaeron and the Nemea, with the Arcadian stag, the Erymanthian boar, and the Cretan bull, caused the Tyrians to find in his deeds a similarity to their mythological tales of Melqart. In fact one of the titles of Melqart is Şêd, “the Hunter,” and the god has the double title, Şêd-Melqart, at Carthage
>>488984312>This epithet of Melqart has not been found for Nergal in Babylonian, but Şa-i-id nakirim, "Hunter of the foe," is used of Ninurta, god of the spring Sun. Since Baʻal-Hammon, principal male deity of Carthage, is identified with Hercules, and Melqart occurs repeatedly at Carthage in proper names, the identity of Ba'al-Hamman with Şêd-Melqart is certain. Baʻal-Hammon of the Phoenician colony at Carthage is only a new name for the Sun-god of the mother-city Tyre, and is taken directly from the cult centre Hammon near Tyre, where the double deity Melk-'Ashtart was worshipped. Astarte of Tyre became the great goddess and principal deity of Carthage; the double deity Şêd-Tanit, corresponding to Melk-'Ashtart of Hamman, also emerges in the mythological nomenclature of Carthage>The Sun-god was known as the god Şêd, “the Hunter,” at Tyre and Carthage. Sanchounyathon made use of trust- worthy sources when he said that Agreus, the Hunter, and Halleus, the Fisherman, were descendants of Samem-roumos, a title of the Sun-god, at Tyre. Here minor aspects of Melqart are personified and treated as deities in his pantheon, an ordinary Sumerian method. Agreus and Halieus begat two brothers, one of whom was called Chrysōr, inventor of hook, bait, fishing line, and small fishing boats, and was the first who sailed. After his death he was deified under the name Diamichius. From them descended Technites and Geinos, who invented brick making>From them descended Technitēs and Gēinos, who invented brick making. These begat Agros, Agrouēros, or Agrotes, "the Farmer." To him the Phoenicians built a statue and "a temple drawn by oxen." At Gebal Agrotes was the greatest of the gods. Since Agrotes also means “Hunter,” the name was applied to the Sun-god El of Gebal
hey! mind your own beeswax!
>>488984400>The statue and temple drawn by oxen clearly refer to the chariot of the Sun-god drawn by four horses, a design found on coins ot every city which emphasized the sun-cult. A chariot with four horses driven by Helios stood on the gable of the magnificent temple of the sun at Ba'albek, and coins of that city represent the fagade of the temple mounted by the chariot of the sun. At Emesa (Homs) the sacred baetyl of Elagabal stands on a chariot drawn by four horsesThe Phoenicians of the city-state of Tyre (who colonized North Africa and created Carthage) worshiped Ninurta/Hercules as their supreme god and called him Melqart (Mlk-Qrt, meaning "King of the City", Mlk is the root word of Moloch). Both Herodotus and Lucian claimed to visit the temple of Melqart in Phoenicia and both concluded that there were two different deities called Heracles - one the Olympian and the other "Tyrian Heracles" (Melqart/Ninurta). Yahweh's temple was EXPLICITLY modeled after Melqart's temple with his two pillars at the entrance (Hercules pillars that separate the Mediterranean Sea from the Atlantic Ocean).Also, the picrel foundation myth of Tyre includes that Melqart carried not two pillars, but two Tablets of the Law around a burning bush that wasn't consumed with a serpent around its base like Moses on Mount Sinai. Clear biblical parallels. Many many other connections. This is true, because the people from Tyre who Bible calls "Gebalites" (which comes from El-Gebal, also known as Elagabalus, whose imperial cult was brought to Rome by the emperor Heliogabalus, who was a male prostitute priest/sodomite of him like the worshipers of Moloch) built Solomon's temple. Even the king of Tyre, Hiram is referred to as a "brother" (achi) by David, and Josephus stated that he was of the tribe of Naphtali.https://www.academia.edu/4354912/Th...as_Proceedings_Actes_I_Madrid_2005_Pp_829_834
>>488984458>The first mention of the city of Jerusalem is in the Egyptian Execration Texts of the 19th–18th centuries b.c.e. The name is spelled wš mm and was probably pronounced "rushalimum." In the Tell el-Amarna letters of the 14th century b.c.e., it is written Urusalim, and in Assyrian Ursalimmu (Sennacherib inscription). In the Bible it is usually spelled yrushlm and sometimes yrushlym (pronounced "Yerushalayim"). The city of Salem (Gen. 14:18; Ps. 76:3) is evidently Jerusalem. The Greek Hierosolyma reflects the "holiness" (hieros, "holy") of the city. It seems that the original name was Irusalem, and the meaning of the two words composing it is "to found" ("yarah") and the name of the West Semitic sun god Shulmanu, also knows as Ninurta (Ninib). The god may have been considered the patron of the city, which had contained a sanctuary in his honor>This becomes more evident in the El-Amarna letters, written by the king of Jerusalem Abdi-Heba to Pharaoh Amenhotep III. This city was known at that time also by the name “Temple of Šulmán/Bit-Ninib”. After complaining that the land was falling to the invading bands (habiru), the king of Jerusalem wrote: “. . . and now, in addition, the capital of the country of Jerusalem — its name is Bit Šulmáni —, the king’s city, has broken away ..” Beth Šulmán in Hebrew is Temple of Šulmán, it was a place of worship (in Canaanite times) of a god found in Akkadian sources as Shelmi, Salman, Shulmanu, or Salamu>Saturn was Ninib, who is best known as Ninurta, a deity who was displaced by Enlil, the elder Bel, and afterwards regarded as his son. His story has not been recovered, but from the references made to it there is little doubt that it was a version of the widespread myth about the elder deity who was slain by his son, as Saturn was by Jupiter and Dyauspitr/Varuna by Indra
>>488984515>It may have resembled the lost Egyptian myth which explained the existence of the two Horuses--Horus the elder, and Horus, the posthumous son of Osiris. At any rate, it is of interest to find in this connection that in Egypt the planet Saturn was Her-Ka, "Horus the Bull". Ninib was also identified with the bull. Both deities were also connected with the spring sun, like Tammuz, and were terrible slayers of their enemies. Ninib raged through Babylonia like a storm flood, and Horus swept down the Nile, slaying the followers of Set. As the divine sower of seed, Ninib may have developed from Tammuz as Horus did from Osiris. Each were at once the father and the son, different forms of the same deity at various seasons of the year>The elder god was displaced by the son (spring), and when the son grew old his son slew him in turn. As the planet Saturn, Ninib was the ghost of the elder god, and as the son of Bel he was the solar war god of spring, the great wild bull, the god of fertility. He was also as Ber "lord of the wild boar", an animal associated with Rimmon>Like all gods who were "sons", Ninurta was originally also Tammuz, son of the Earth-mother, and died each year with perishing vegetation. Few traces of his connection with that myth and cult remain, as it was almost entirely suppressed by the Tammuz cult. The most direct survivals are the myths of Lil and Nintur and of Marduk and Ishtar, both of which correspond to Tammuz and Ishtar. Ab-ú or Eš-ú, one of the principal titles of Tammuz, is also a title of Ninurta. Ninurta was regent of the month Tammuz and has also the title Ni(n)kilim, "Lord of swine," in the earliest Sumerian texts
>>488984557>The cult of Nikilim spread to the west, where he was worshipped at an unknown site, Diniktu. The Accadian word for "pig", humuşiru, is used as a title for Ninurta, and is followed by another title, sugannunna, "lord of the sea coast", by which Phoenicia is probably meant. Aramaic transcriptions of the name NIN-IB in the Persian period give the pronunciation Anushat, or Anmasht, or Enmasht, or Ennammasht. When we take into consideration that kilim, "pig", is also rendered by nammashtu, "small cattle", probably also in a special sense "swine", it is possible that Ninurta's title may be Ennammasht, "Lord of swine". It is, therefore, certain that the pig was sacred to Ninurta, and possible that he was known both in Babylonia and throughout the West as "Lord of Swine">The cult of Ninurta spread to the West in early times, and a temple of Ninurta at Gebal is mentioned in the fifteenth century, It was precisely at Gebal that the famous legend of the annual wounding by a boar, in the wild and mountainous valley of the Adonis, was told. The seal (Fig. 58) from Kish, where Ninurta’s principal cult under the name Zamama as War-god existed from prehistoric times, may possibly be connected with a legend of the killing of Nikilim by a wild boar>The meaning of the scene is obscure, and the figure of the person lancing a spear from the top of a palm tree may not be a deity. It may be connected with the motif of the Sun-god appearing from a tree discussed in Chapter There was also a city, Beth-Ninurta, near Jerusalem, in the same period. Since the god Damu, a regular title of Tammuz, was also a deity of Gebal, and since Damu also appears for Gula, wife of Ninurta, it is obvious that not only the Adonis cult of Gebal was borrowed from the Tammuz cult of Sumer, but that Ninurta, Nikilim, “the lord of swine,” has a direct connection with the Sumerian and Phoenician cults of the dying god
>>488984602https://www.livius.org/articles/person/heliogabalus/heliogabalus-religion-1/>Several things were required of the high priest of Sol Invictus Elagabal, because Dio speaks of the emperor's circumcision and his abstinence from pork. The historian also says that Heliogabalus had made plans to cut off his genitals altogether, but Dio does not believe that this had to do with the emperor's religion. Instead, he presents it as evidence of Heliogabalus' effeminacy. The circumcision, however, was carried out on other followers as well. All other facets of this religion were barbaric in Dio's eyes. The chanting, the innumerable amulets, animals that were kept either in the palace or in the temple, child sacrifice: Dio's catalogue of horrors is endless>Dio exaggerates. Jews and Egyptians also circumcised their boys and abstained from pork, and the Romans had no difficulties with these customs. The fault Dio finds in Heliogabalus is that he was an emperor and had to represent everything that the Roman people stood for. In order to stand at the top of the nation, an emperor was expected to set a good example in Roman virtues. Circumcision and abstaining from pork did not belong on this list. Dio was a senator, a conservative, and an elitarian>Sol is the personification of the Sun and a god in ancient Roman religion. It was long thought that Rome actually had TWO different, consecutive sun gods: The first, Sol Indiges (Latin: the deified sun), was thought to have been unimportant, disappearing altogether at an early period. Only in the late Roman Empire, scholars argued, did the solar cult re-appear with the arrival in Rome of the Syrian Sol Invictus (Latin: the unconquered sun), perhaps under the influence of the Mithraic mysteries>Sol Invictus, on the other hand, was believed to be a Syrian sun god whose cult was first promoted in Rome under Elagabalus, without success
>>488984651>Some fifty years later, in 274 CE, Aurelian established the cult of Sol Invictus as an official religion. There has never been consensus on which Syrian sun god he might have been: some scholars opted for the sky god of Emesa, Elagabal, while others preferred Malakbel of Palmyra>The god of Gebal was El, El of Gebal>“The true origin of the divine name elah-Gabal was revealed on the day Mr. Friedrich Delitzsch established that the name of the god Fire of the ancient pre-Semitic people of the Schoumers and Akkads, subsequently adopted by the Chaldeo-Babylonian religion of the Semitic period, that this name, although written bil-gi by virtue of a law of reversal of the order of characters in the orthograph of which we have a good number of examples, read Gibil, a word which in the Acadian language is well known as meaning "to burn", as a verb, and "fire", as a noun. The god Gibil of Chaldea is surely the god Gabal of Emesa, and this is not the only example we have of a non-Semitic and Acadian divine denomination, passing among purely Semitic peoples through the influence of Babylon. Everything comes together to prove the identity of the two characters.” (SOL ELAGABALUS, François Lenormant, publisheed in Revue de l'histoire des religions, Vol. 3 (1881), pp. 310-322)>Gibil (𒀭𒉈𒄀), also known under the Akkadian name Girra, was a Mesopotamian god associated with fire, both in its positive and negative aspects. He also played a role in ritual purification. The Akkadian form Girra was derived directly from the term girru. These terms are ultimately derived from the root *ḥrr, "to burn" or "to scorch", similarly as another theonym, Erra>Erra (sometimes called Irra) is an Akkadian plague god known from an 'epos' of the eighth century BCE. Erra is the god of mayhem and pestilence who is responsible for periods of political confusion. He was assimilated to Nergal at some point
>>488984724>"No other etymology is in such good agreement with the idea held by the third-century Syrians of Emesa, concerning their god, Sol Elagabal. But the question remains whether this hypothesis really explains the form of the name. El-Gablil or El-Gebil would fit better than El-Gabal. These considerations, however, have only relative value, since the Syrian form of Elagabal was not handed down directly. This last etymology seems the most probable to R6ville. Furthermore, it does not exclude the other two. The root gabal from which the Arabic word for mountain derives, has given rise to the formation of verbal stems meaning either massive or exalted or to exalt. In Syriac and Arabic the verb gabal (or gebal) is used in the sense of form or manipulate, which explains the Hebrew meaning of complete, define, limit (cf. gebottl = border) and in Syriac form or create.">"Thus, the sun god of the heights in the mythology of Canaan can be related to the god who is maker or creator. Although there is not a single positive fact available that can be accepted as conclusive evidence except the common symbol of the Black Stone, it is not improbable that the god Gibil of the Chaldeans and the god Gebal of the Hemenesi had, if not a common origin, at least original analogies, or that the cult of the former influenced that of the latter." (The Cult of Sol Invictus, Gaston Halsberghe, (1972, E. ,. Brill, Leiden, Netherlands)>El of Gebal became Elagabal, the Syrian Sun god worshipped as a black meteorite by the Syrian priesthood based in the city of Emessa, where this god fused with the Roman sun god Sol to be introduced to Roman legionaries through the cult of Sol Invictus Elagabalus, which is where Roman soldiers picked up the salute of the rising sun. Yes, that infamous one
>>488984201lel, you thought i was kidding
>>488984781>Elagabal was later introduced into Rome itself by the Emperor Elagabalus (318 a.d), the teenaged high priest of this god and scion of the Severan dynasty who took over the Empire at the beginning of the 4th century c.e.>The book of Kings states the Temple of Solomon was built by special masons from Gebal called the Gebalites or Giblites, whose identity undergo various transformations through the various translations of the reference to them. But that they were masons and from Gebal is clear>32 And Solomon's builders and Hiram's builders and the Gebalites did fashion them, and prepared the timber and the stones to build the house>— 1 Kings: 5, Hebrew>18 Thus Solomon’s workmen, and Hiram’s workmen, and the men of Gebal prepared the timber and the stone for the construction of the temple>— 1 Kings: 5, New Catholic>18 And Solomon's builders and Hiram's builders did hew them, and the stonesquarers: so they prepared timber and stones to build the house.>— 1 Kings: 5, King James>18 And Solomon’s workmen, and the workmen of Hiram, and the masons hewed and prepared timber and stones for the building of the house>— 1 Kings: 5, Geneva Translation>18 So Solomon’s builders, Hiram’s builders, and the Gebalites quarried them; and they prepared timber and stones to build the temple>— 1 Kings: 5, New King James>18 and the builders of Solomon, and the builders of Hiram, and the Giblites hew, and prepare the wood and the stones to build the house>— 1 Kings: 5, Young's Literal Translation>Since the Freemasons fashion themselves as builders of Solomon’s temple, the capital G between their compass and square is no doubt a reference to Gebal, where the Crusaders would build the Castle of Gibelet, making Gibil the true god of their worship, the god of Gilgamesh, even if they themselves do not know thisSource:https://thehotstar.net/gibil.html
>>488984834But that is not what the G stands for.
>>488970336There’s cameras everywhere all the owl statues are cameras
>>488969631They realized that ancient rituals (no matter the tradition/religion) actually work as long as you do them very specifically and adhere to everything thoroughly. It's how they got all their power (as well as astrology). I'm currently trying to figure out which one to get into to amass my fortune.
>>488984834>Odin, known as All Father, Father of the Gods and Mankind.....Reminder anons; that worthy slain Master Masons can be patroned by the Valkyrie, choosers of the worthy slain.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIuPagYDBwE
>>488984969>InG Rune>Male energy, potential to manifest......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLovRRI_aAc
>>488984827I enjoy crazy people if they have a smidgen of truth. For example, I'll give Ammon Hillman an ear, and he's a Greek Professor who...worships Satan? . . . but he claims Jesus was a drug using hippie who Mary Magdalene received a facial from. Absolutely crazy, but he says shit like "Oh hey so you know Pergamum? There was a temple of Serapis the Ram Horned Serpent god identified with Osiris the Lord of the Dead and that's what John is referring to when he talks about Satan's throne rather than the Temple of Zeus Bible Scholars think" like wtf
>>488969631boredom
This is Athene noctua commonly known as the Little Owl and associated with Athena/Minerva and it doesn't look like the statue
>>488984201>Harpocrates or Horon is the same god as MelqartStop projecting yourself onto me/saying things I didn't say, you fucking retard. I said that Horon (and Resheph) was Nergal, twin brother of Ninurta, that is Melqart, not Nergal. Horon is Horus of the Horizon (Her Deshur "Ḥr Dšr"), also known as Horus the Red (Mars, the planet of Nergal), not Harpocrates.>Rising and dying gods of fertility who are connected to lotus flowers and the Ankh, the son of El / OsirisOsiris is not El, but Mot. For the most part, the majority of people living in Ancient Canaan/Israel fucking hated the Egyptian, to the point where it's pretty clear that the Baal Cycle is a reversed version of the Osiris Passion with Seth (Baal) as the hero and Osiris (Mot) and his son Horus (Horon) as the villain. The reason for this hatred is because if you were an ancient Near Eastern state about to be conquered, the Egyptians would be the last people you wanted to do it. The entire reason they did a lot of this colonizing and conquest wasn't for glory or material rewards, but because their gods wanted them to kill foreigners and gingers, the Hyksos, sons of Seth, in revenge for killing Osiris (Toby Wilkinson, Budge).>Proof?>>488984101>>488984312>but how is that connected to Melqart and HoronBecause they are chthonic gods, chthonic means connected to the earth/underworld. They govern them.>What?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_goat>But it's a goatThe ancients did not place much distinction between goats, rams and sheep.
>>488986015Tell us about the Lilith double owl ritual anons!
>>488985899i don't blame you, sometimes it can be fun with humans but brazilian spammer doesn't bother to engage anyone intellectually, as you can see by his response to you here: >>488983934it's a bot meant to interrupt anyone that's discussing things they don't like.
>>488971155It's sacrificial altar where rituals are performed. Suddenly, a burnt offering doesn't count as worship?
>>488978355Correct.
>>488969631it isn't worship it's defilment. the owl is Minerva a god of knowledge and beauty so they perform a human sacrifice ritual infront of it to pervert it.
>>488987906Who are they paying homage to when they do this defilement? Is it some particular deity?
>>488988020meladon
>>488969631https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Vuo5Ua2OxkA number of hand signs are used by Illuminist to indicate their allegiance to their Order and to demonstrate their knowledge that to divulge its secrets shall bring gruesome and swift, perhaps fatal retribution. When President Richard M. Nixon resigned the office of the presidency on August 9, 1974, he signaled the Dueguard and Sign of a Royal Arch Mason. As the Nixon videotapes since released by the Nixon presidential library clearly show, Nixon and his ‘Prussian Guard,’ White House Chief of Staff Robert Haldermann and top aide John Erlichman, plotted to thwart the power of the Jewish Illuminati media that poisons the mind of America. They also conspired to overthrow the elaborate FBI and intelligence network historically behind the scenes by the Jewish-led Illuminati chieftains. Nixon knew what he was risking. He well knew that John F. Kennedy’s murder was orchestrated by the Jewish Illuminati with the backing of Zionist Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson and with the connivance of J. Edgar Hoover’s Mafia-infiltrated FBI and the Skull & Bones-run CIA. Nixon had been a close associate of David Rockefeller and had met privately with the Rothschilds a number of times. Nixon also had attended the notorious homoerotic occultic rituals of the Bohemian Club outside San Francisco. Still, as President, he had hoped to mount an offensive against the elite and dislodge them from their position of awesome power in the United States. Instead, it was Nixon and his entourage who were dislodged, falling from grace and being ousted, even though Nixon’s so-called crimes (‘Watergate,’ etc.) were paltry compared to the colossal criminal treachery of predecessors like Wilson and Roosevelt, and successors like Clinton and both Bushes.
>>488969631The elite are jewish and most are secular
Saturn?
>>488969631That's not Roman, it's Babylonian.
>>488989037whoa, nice
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Why is everybody so susceptible to conspiracy theories nowadays????
>>488991558They're desperately trying to recruit more members, so they're now pouring all of their shit on every media there is, in hopes some ignorant young people will join them. It might also have something to do with astrology or whatever, change of times.
>>488986084Ninurta was more connected to farming/agriculture while Nergal was the plagues/fire that destroyed it, well antithetical. Perhaps Baal-Hammon's ram's horns are a reference to Aries then, since he is ruled by Mars. The curious thing is Aries and Pisces are the first and last sign of Zodiac whose Hebrew equivalent is Aleph (The Bull) and Tav (the Cross).>Aries is one of the six positive signs of the zodiac and it is one of the four modality cardinals of the zodiac. Aries is one of the three fire signs in the zodiac, along with Leo and Sagittarius. The ruling planet is Mars. Individuals born while the Sun is in this sign may be called Ariens The color for Aries is red. The opposite zodiac sign to Aries is Libra>Beyond the association to the planet Mars, there is no link between Aries and Ares, the god of war, often pictured with a vulture and whose origin stems from ἀρή (arē), the Ionic form of the Doric ἀρά (ara), "bane, ruin, curse, imprecation">Two traditions lie behind Aries. The first identifies it with the Golden Fleece that Jason and the people of the Argo sought to recover. Before Aries was a fleece, it was a ram that played an important role in the lives of two children. It begins as the usual evil stepmother story. One of Jason's uncles, Athamas, king of the Minyons, married Nephele, goddess of the clouds. He had two children by her, Phrixus and Helle. Athamas then fell in love with Ino, later to become the goddess of sea foam. She hated Nephele's children and urged Athamas to sacrifice Phrixus to the gods to end a famine. Nephele appeared in a vision to Phrixus the night before the sacrifice, bearing a ram with a golden fleece. Phrixus and Helle escaped on the Ram's back. Helle fell off and drowned as the ram crossed the sea. That particular location is sometimes still called the Hellespont (more often the Dardanelles, after Dardanus, one of the founders of Troy)
>>488993250>Phrixus continued to the eastern end of the Black Sea (called the Euxine in ancient times), settled in Colchis (current western Georgia), sacrificed the ram and placed the ram's fleece under the care of a never sleeping dragon>Ino was the daughter of Cadmus, incurring the wrath of Hera for agreeing with Zeus to help raise Dionysus. Depending on the source, either she, Athamas, or both were driven mad through Hera's actions and killed their own children. Melicertes her son alone escaped by jumping into the sea ahead of Ino. Ino changed into a goddess, later helping Odysseus on his journey home. She is also known as Leucothea. Melicertes' body was carried by dolphins to his uncle Sisyphus of Corinth, who founded the Isthmian games in his honor. Melicertes may be linked with the Phoenician god Melqart (the Canaanite Baal of Tyre, sometimes called Baal Amon), which brings us to the second tradition>Baal-Hammon is clearly identified as one of the Phoenician deities covered under the name of Baal. However, the meaning of his second name is unclear. Frank Moore Cross argued for a connection to Hamon, the Ugaritic name for Mount Amanus, a peak in the Nur Mountains which separate Syria from Cilicia. In the 19th century, when Ernest Renan excavated the ruins of Hammon (Hammon), the modern Umm al-‘Awamid between Tyre and Acre, he found two Phoenician inscriptions dedicated to El-Hammon. Others have proposed Hammon as a syncretic association with Libyan-Egyptian god Amun, while a last current has called instead for a connection with the Northwest Semitic word Hamman ("brazier"), suggesting the sense "Lord of the Brazier". Baal Hammon in Hebrew means "Ruler of a Crowd or Multitude"
>>488993554You are brown btw
>>488969631>roman pagan idol>roman
>>488977638In the Bible the Israelites take up the pagan customs of child sacrifice of their canaanite neighbors, of course in direct opposition to God's command and are harshly punished by God for it.>They set up their vile images in the house that bears my Name and defiled it. 35 They built high places for Baal in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to sacrifice their sons and daughters to Molek, though I never commanded—nor did it enter my mind—that they should do such a detestable thing and so make Judah sin.
>>488993989That's Talmudic revisionism. If there was no human sacrifice, why does Jephthath sacrifice his daughter, why does Psalms 18 describe Yahweh's wrath like a fiery sacrifice, and why does God demand the first born of children in Exodus to be redeemed by money?
>>488994212Its Jeremiah 32 you lying jew, I can see what you are doing.
>>488993250>>488993554Kabbalah/Gnosticism give a lot of importance to Aries.>source so people don't say I'm bullshitinghttps://www.sefaria.org/search?q=aries&tab=text&tpathFilters=Talmud|Midrash|Kabbalah|Tanakh%20Commentary&tvar=1&tsort=relevance&svar=1&ssort=relevance>yes the actual fucking Egyptian god>head of the 11 Zodiacal archons and a Marquis who commands 40 legions>at least partially responsible for Israelite slavery in the land of Egypt>might also have had a hand in creating the material universe>may be identical with Moloch / Baal Hammon>killing the Pascal lamb shows Israel overcoming him>still capable of affecting human emotions to make us do bad shit>definitely has a hand in controlling life force and making vegetation grow>might also be responsible for the Se'irimhttps://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/apocjn.html>This is the first archon who took a great power from his mother. And he removed himself from her and moved away from the places in which he was born. He became strong and created for himself other aeons with a flame of luminous fire which (still) exists now. And he joined with his arrogance which is in him and begot authorities for himself. The name of the first one is Athoth, whom the generations call the reaper>And the archons created seven powers for themselves, and the powers created for themselves six angels for each one until they became 365 angels. And these are the bodies belonging with the names: the first is Athoth, a he has a sheep's face>And he named each power beginning with the highest: the first is goodness with the first (authority), Athoth
>>488994536>You are a Jew if you question the Jewish BibleLmao you kike cock sucker
>>488994579>AMON>The second Marquis under the King of the East is Amon or Aamon. He is most stern and comes in the form of a mighty wolf with the tail of a serpent and vomits flames of fire, though when he takes human form he has the head of a raven with the teeth of a dog. He has the power to make wild beasts tame, uncover all secrets, procure feuds and the favor and love of friends and enemies, and knows all things past, present, and to come>Although it can be tempting to correlate Amon to gods such as the Egyptian Amun or the Carthaginian Ba'al Hamon, there are too few connections between them to give such correspondences any real credence. There is, however, a linguistic connection between the names Amon and Hamon that is worth considering. This connection can be seen when comparing Amon to one of his purported alternative names, Nahum. Although this alias appears to be a modern construct with no traditional basis in the grimoires, it successfully provides a link to one possible origin of Amon's name due to its connection with the minor Old Testament prophet Nahum, who spoke out against “whoredom and witchcraft” during the reign of the apostate Judean king Amon, who “burnt the Torah and allowed spider webs to cover the altar”. Although this alias provides a biblical connection, it cannot be postulated as a genuine alias for Amon in these circumstances, as king and prophet are too diametrically opposed to be equated with each other in the form of a specific daemonic entity>Despite this, the name Nahum has another biblical appearance that may be of significance, due to it being the term from which that of the settlement of Capernaum—where Christ exorcised unclean spirits from a demoniac—was taken. While this demonic association again seems too precarious to confirm the validity of Nahum as an alternative name for Amon, another renowned case of biblical exorcism was that in which the name Legion was uttered by the demoniac of Garasa
>>488969631In private?
>>488994863>In Hebrew, the word legion can be translated to המון (hamon), though it describes plurality in general, including the concept of “people”. This therefore gives the name Amon the same origin as the biblical Legion and makes the name of the god Ba'al Hamon equitable to “Lord of Many” or “Lord of the People.” Despite this, there is still no justification for directly equating the god of Carthage with the spirit Amon, as it is only different concepts of plurality that are being commonly expressed by their names rather than a definitive coagulation into a singular entity>Because the names of spirits often have a multiplicity of linguistic meanings, another possibility worthy of consideration is found in the common appearance of the word amon in the names of spirits. In this context, this construction may be an application of the Hebrew word איום (ayum), meaning “terrible”, “awful”, “hideous”, “dreadful”, or “fearful”, appended by the possessive suffix “-on”. Unsurprisingly, this combination is often used to describe spirits with sinister appearances, powers, or characteristics and is evident in the names of Paymon's aliases Pamon and Samon; Tamon, who “speaketh fowly and evil fovouredly, and without discretion”; Amaymon, whose character is generally “terrible”; and, in a truncated form, Aym, who destroys castles, strongholds, and cities. In Amon's person, such a nature is apparent in his ability to cause feuds and his ghastly appearance as a mighty fire-breathing wolf with a serpentine tail and as a man with the head of a night raven with dog's teeth. This form is somewhat similar to that of the Valravn of Danish folklore, which was sometimes depicted as being half-raven and half-wolf, of which more is discussed in the description of the spirits Mistalas, Andras, and the spirit who follows Amon in the Book of Offices, Suffales
>>488969631We would be so much better off if our elites were Roman pagans.
>>488994659The talmud is the actual jewish bible, the Torah they claim as their bible invalidates them page by page if you actually read it. Judaism is a fraud.
>>488994970>As mentioned in the description of the spirit Seson and those subsequent to him, there are strong connections between this cluster of Eastern spirits, with Neophon and Suffales sharing Amon's lupine, corvid, and canine characteristics, while Maxayn's serpentine tail and fiery breath are also evident in his form. His powers, which include the ability to control wild animals, uncover all secrets, procure favor and the love of friends and enemies, and knowing all things past, present, and to come, correlate strongly with those of Barbatos, who precedes him under the name Barbais in the Book of Offices and follows him in the Pseudomonarchia Daemonum>His power to cause feuds, meanwhile, is concordant with the power Suffales has as “the author and promoter of discord, war [and] quarrels”, while his abilities to answer all questions regarding past, present, and future, reveal secrets, and procure favor and the love of friends and foes is strongly concordant with the Solar-Marsian powers of Neophon. This large degree of overlap with the spirits surrounding him in the East adds extra credulity to the pluralistic nature suggested by the similarity of his name to the Hebrew hamon and gives him the overall feel of a spirit whose form is a gestalt composed of the parts of many others
>>488969631>why do the elite worship a roman pagan idol in private?Habit.
>>488995174>Because of this great similarity of his powers to the two spirits who precede him, his main astrological sympathies are with the sign of Sagittarius, especially those found in the twentieth Lunar Mansion Al-Na'am due to its influence over the taming of wild beasts. With the Saturnian night raven making up part of his appearance, the third decan of Sagittarius, which brings quarrels, is also resonant with his nature, though the Marsian form of the wolf—rendered “stern” by Amon's Saturnian character—is suggestive of the third decan of Leo, which, like Amon, brings “love and fellowship”>The overlaps apparent between the daemonic expressions of these astrological factors and those found in the form of Amon suggest these to be conducive placements for working with him when Mars and Saturn are transiting such places when the Sun is in the Eastern Quarter of the heavens during the days and hours of Sol, Mars, or Saturn or when the Moon forms aspects with Saturn or Mars from those places
>>488969631Errrm, because, erm, because they're actually secretly based and le redpilled bro. Neoliberalism and globalism and buttsex is actually based bro. Look at my based and redpilled vaporwave edits of Western politicians being all based JVPITERpilled broWe are so back bro!!
>>488995309>Abu Mihriz (Arabic: ابا محرز "Father of the Attainer"), Abu Ya'qub (Arabic: ابو يعقوب), or al-Ahmar (Arabi: الاحمر "The Red One"), is the lord of the red planet, Mars (المريخ al-Mariikh), the color red, the metal Copper or Red Mercury and is monitored by the angel Samsama’il (Arabic: سمسمائيل; Hebrew: סַמָּאֵל Sammāʾēl). He is one of the leaders of prince Morrah son of Iblis' army>The iconography of the Red King is one of the most interesting of this group especially when compared to two illustrations in the Kitab al-Mawalid in the Bibliothèque nationale de France. The jinni is depicted as a frontal figure with multiple heads, the only common attribute being the sword in his hand. However, another illustration shows a second jinni called Tarish sitting on a lion and biting the body of a snake>The Sabians of Harran gave to the spirit of Mars (اريس Ārīs) the name Lord of the Blind (رب العميان Rabb al-'Umyan) and Mara-Samya, which means the blind (Samya) lord (Mara) in Aramaic, and they call him blind because of his extreme violence and because in his rage he strikes without regard. Interestingly the angel of this planet, Samael, is also known as the "Blind One", whose duty is probably to seal the hearts of those who disbelieve>SAMA-EL (סַמָּאֵל): named Samil in the Babylonian myths, he is also known as Satan in Christian mythology, though this should not be confused with, or mistaken for, the figure of Ha Satan (הַשָּׂטָן) in Jewish mythology, though there are similarities in that Sama-El means "Venom of El" or "Poison of El," and his role is that of an accuser, seducer and destroyer; but more in the Inquisitional sense of a "Devil's Advocate" than the full-scale scales and forked tail. He was originally the patron-god of Samal, a Hittite-Aramaic kingdom to the east of Charan (חָרָן - see Genesis 11:31)
