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They basically look like the greek but with more hair
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>they basically look like the Greek
Stop lying and just image search "Iranians".
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Persians are honorary aryans, but not white. Iranians? Too mixed of a bag. It's like the Serbian discussion.
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>>488985751
TRANIME, OH MY GOD YEESSSS!!!!
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>>488985864
Actually, that's dumb. They're the original aryans, lol.
>>488985889
>OUR BOARD, MY ANIME!
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>>488985751
Is that what they looked like 1000s of years ago? Or did they look like the one to the left?
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>>488985751
Some are Semites, while others worship a particular type of Semites.
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>>488985751
>Culture
>Location
>Average looks
Real reason should be genetics, but people don't think about that.
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>>488985751
>Aryan
doesn't really mean anything until you attach it to someone like the Yamnaya.
So we're at Aryan = Yamnaya.
What makes the Yamnaya who they are?
They're considered to be oblong tall muscular broad powerful warrior people, they have LOOOOONG skulls - like the old wisdom
>The northern warrior people with big long square skulls, contrasted to the southern little farmer people with their round heads
So if you appreciate these things we're at.
Aryan = good
because
Aryan = Yamnaya
and
Yamnaya = Good
because
Yamnaya = BIG DUDES

The Yamnaya actually had mostly dark hair and probably light eyes but brown, like light brown/hazel eyes mostly, some grey, some blue, but mostly darker people.

But we're losing the thing, because we can just fucking pinch ourselves and notice
>Northern Europeans
>Big dudes with big square and rectangular heads, broad shoulders, big build, big chest.... BIGGER than the Yamnaya who they are descended from.
>Asian people, i.e. Iranians etc whatever
>Small stout round little people

So you've got into realms of irrelevant bullshit when you start talking about eye colour, what the term 'Aryan' refers to, where the first 'Aryans' were and so on, because you can just pinch yourself and look around and who is big dudes with big shoulders and chests and big rectangular heads. The Northern Europeans do just so happen to have high PIE ancestry, but who gives a shit because I'd fucking flatten Yamnaya midgets lol I'm even bigger than them.
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Persian and Palestinian women are easily the most beautiful I’ve ever seen irl. Anyone who disagrees likes to get their balls busted by dumb white bitches.
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>>488985751
who said we werent
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>>488985751
indians are the real aryans
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>>488986552
A bit stereotypical for a British man to study archeology.
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>>488985751
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In one breath they denounce whites, in the next they re-write their entire history to link themselves to whites.
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>>488986913
I wouldn’t call extremely specific knowledge about his gay fantasy
>archeology
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>>488985751
It's very simple

The ancient Aryans conquered all those places but Persian and Indian already had large native populations of shitskins which the Aryans ended up breeding with there

Europe on the other hand was nearly empty so it's mostly Aryan blood there mix with some native preIndoeuropeans and some brown Anatolian farmers
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>>488987167
>europe was empty
Lmao even. They and probably the aryans had sex with this. And that’s why you’re such hecking big boys.
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>>488987548
Relative terms
It was on the level of ancient India
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> US
> Canada
> even our shithole
> blue eyes and blonde hair
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>>488985751
It's a political and religious thing. The are Muslim and enemies of Western Civilization.
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>>488987548
Also neanderthals were long before Aryans arrived

They mixed with native pre indoeuropeans who then mixed with aryand much later

Europe was empty compared to South Asian and the Levant which is why civilization developed there first

Some parts like central Europe and the Balkans may have had sizable population before Aryans arrived but even then not on the same level
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>>488987647
Shia islam is a minority in iran now. Most people are areligous/atheist/agnostic. Ironically the islamic revolution made the people despise islam. I wonder why
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>>488985751
Am I white if I have green eyes?
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>>488987007
You can tell when men with bears have weak jaws because the beard aligns perfect with the rest of their skull

Thos of course means that their jaw is depressed by comparison, as hair projects

How the fuck could has jaw be as wide as the rest of his skull if the beard at that length is perfect in line with his cranium
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>>488987167
>Europe on the other hand was nearly empty
Soon after the 'Aryan' Yamnaya turned up lol. This is a mass grave of neolithic farmers, probably done by Yamnaya, and probably common
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Kinship-A-Artistic-reconstruction-of-the-Koszyce-mass-burial-based-partly-on_fig3_332879795
If you think about it the Yamnaya are basically cromagnons who became gypsies.

But - and I may be wrong about this on some evidence that's turned up - it can be theorised that the reason Europeans have such large 'Aryan' ancestry today is not because of the initial make-up but rather selection pressures over time. Such as it's theorised yamnaya had resistance to plague and something like the black plague in the middle ages could increase yamnaya ancestry. You could get esoteric on that about modern economy and protestantism - already you can get esotierc on that protestantism is a resurgence of paganism, but what if protestantism is a product of a resurgence of 'aryan' genes? all the work ethic and entrepreneurialism and increasing the nuclear family and individualism etc, liberalism and protestantism could be 'aryan'.
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>>488986552
>Aryan = Yamnaya.

What about the native Europeans, those who lived thousands of years before the PIE invasion, you're saying they're not Aryan?
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>>488988122
You trim the sides of your beard, fucking retard.
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>>488988371
what do you mean by 'aryan'? we don't need to speak sanskrit here
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>>488985751
Basically the Indo-Aryans migrated into Europe, Anatolia, Central Asia, Iran, the Levant, India, and what is now western China (Xianjiang.) In all these places they conquered and mixed with the local peoples to varying degrees. Because of that mixing with local people (in Europe, the Early European Farmers and Western Hunter Gatherers,) the actual genetics of their descendants are different. An Iranian is not the same as an Indian is not the same as a European. This is why I prefer to use the term "Native European" for whites rather than "Aryan."
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>>488987007
>https://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1008385
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>>488988897
the 'reality' is biased, the yamnaya would have been pretty much White of having blondism and variety of eye colours and hair colours.
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>>488985751
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_peoples

The ancient Iranian peoples who emerged after the 1st millennium BC include the Alans, the Bactrians, the Dahae, the Khwarazmians, the Massagetae, the Medes, the Parthians, the Persians, the Sagartians, the Saka, the Sarmatians, the Scythians, the Sogdians, and likely the Cimmerians, among other Iranian-speaking peoples of West Asia, Central Asia, Eastern Europe, and the Eastern Steppe.

Modern Iranian peoples include the Baloch, the Gilaks, the Kurds, the Lurs, the Mazanderanis, the Ossetians, the Pamiris, the Pashtuns, the Persians, the Tats, the Tajiks, the Talysh, the Wakhis, the Yaghnobis, and the Zazas. Their current distribution spreads across the Iranian Plateau – stretching from the Caucasus in the north to the Persian Gulf in the south and from eastern Anatolia in the west to western Xinjiang in the east – covering a region that is sometimes called Greater Iran, representing the extent of the Iranian-speaking peoples and the reach of their geopolitical and cultural influence.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Iran

Richard Nelson Frye defines Greater Iran as including "much of the Caucasus, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Central Asia, with cultural influences extending to China and western India."

According to him, "Iran means all lands and peoples where Iranian languages were and are spoken, and where in the past, multi-faceted Iranian cultures existed."
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>>488988897
but yeah the bottom pic of guy with platinum blond hair and very fair skin is also of course absurd. very fair skin is a more recent development, and white gold hair.
no one even looked like that until very recently when people began spending most of their time indoors lol. the vikings would be very dark skinned people from spending all their time outdoors and especially at sea, they'd likely be darker than many african americans today lol. if the lightest skinned person today spends 40 years outdoors and at sea they'll have very dark skin.
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>>488989441
I like to see someone who knows something instead of yelling. I've enjoyed your posts.
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>>488988371
They were most closely related to modern Anatolians and Caucus peoples. So, not really. Nobody is actually very interested in trumpeting on about their minority EEF component (and even less their small WHG component) because those people never actually did anything. They lived in small villages and farmed. They didn't conquer anything, they didn't build great cities, they had no writing system, and there only monuments were a couple standing stones. Compare them to, say the Mesopotamians or ancient Egyptians and they were a complete joke. Why would anyone care about that lineage, rather than the lineage of the Indo-Europeans who went on to become the Greeks and every great western civilization that flowed from it?
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>>488985751
I dont care what they are so long as they keep fucking with Israel. I'm just sad White people dont have our own IRGC. The Nazis were a valiant effort at stopping jewish power. We need to keep trying. Iran is doing something right. They pulled off their revolution and lived to tell the tale. White people have an opportunity to fight ZOG before we end up like Palestinians. We have jews so outnumbered here we could expel them completely unarmed.
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>>488987007
your telling me the proto indo Iranians were just Europeans that didnt mix race with the brown people in the dessert 5000 years ago?
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>>488987008
They denounce America. If you're White why aren't you? America has taken it's 90% White population and turned it to 50%. We're now on track to extinction. If I hate ZOG, I'm happy for others to hate it. I wipe my ass with the American flag because it was too ugly even as my doormat.
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>>488989522
i really don't, i just read a few books on it years back and have followed some developments. but then no one knows a whole lot, it's only recently that we've made so many discoveries and been able to look at genetics of it. what makes it seem complex is all the theorising and romanticism introduced to it, which is from back when we knew fuck all and so it's compacted cultural and political stuff.

in very broad strokes
- homo sapiens migrate to europe around 100,000 years ago, and they largely likely didn't do well as it's such a tough climate and it was inhabited by neanderthals, who were incredibly tough people
- around 50,000 years ago there were waves of homo sapiens into europe which were more successful and had more staying power, maybe climate changes or whatever, and they developed into the cro-magnon, which is very big robust homo sapiens
- cro-magnon mixed with later waves of homo sapien migration, and at this point we could start talking about 'Europeans' aka Cro-magnon descendants, and they become, in very broad general terms, 'Western Hunter Gatherers' and 'Eastern Hunter Gatherers' who migrate eastwards
- Eastern Hunter Gatherers become... produce... the Yamnaya basically AKA 'ARYANS!', which is an unnecessary asian word, and the Yamnaya invade southwards into central asian and westwards back into Europe. During this time a lot of neolithic farmers had moved into Europe, and it was likely largely pretty ugly for the neolithic when the Yamnaya came, which can be seen as Europeans coming back to Europe

The term 'Aryan' I find so unnecessary.
Politically the following terms would also be PROBLEMATIC, but basically Cromagnon is Europeans, and Yamnaya is Europeans, and Europeans is White people.
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>>488990284
That's neat, anon.
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>>488985751
The only thing Aryan about the various countries in the Goatfuckistan region of Asia is remnants of the ancients' language and gods. Millennia of miscegenating with abbos has degenerated their line to an irredeemable state. Even in the First Millennium BCE, Iran was already race-mixing to the point where emperors felt the need to proclaim their Aryanness to the world, hoping to differentiate themselves from the mongrelized peasantry of their realm.
I see what you're doing, Finn. You're trying to secure your place in the Race by convincing the rest of us that they belong too. You're on thin ice with your Mongol eyes, don't push your luck.
Indigenous Europeans are genetically, linguistically, culturally, and spiritually the closest the living world has or ever will see of the generating Force of civilization. If we die, so dies Humanity's only hope of advancement.
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>>488989522
It's very strange when people end up thinking in terms of some people from the east coming into Europe - they're descendants of cromagnon who came from europe in the first place. what makes Europeans AKA Whites what they are, asides from behaviour, of the biology and shape of the face and head and physiogonomy and blondism etc, is around way before the 'Aryans', and the 'Aryans' come from that. It's basically all just talking about White people. Asides from race deniers White people are self-evident, and you can jsut look around and see who is White or not, because as far as 'Aryan' means anything, it's talking about White people. Some individuals in Iran could pass for White.

This is a YouTube channel with nice production who talks about a lot of this stuff
https://www.youtube.com/@Survivethejive
though some stuff he says contradicts things I've read and been convinced by and comes up with some paradigms that are a bit selective, but generally he's correct and very knowledgeable.

All of this stuff, like the timeline I previously gave >>488990284 is hard to get outside of interpretation really because all of it is so complex and trying to make a timeline and giving names to groups ends up inescapably as building a narrative. The simplest terms you can put it in which isn't incorrect is talking about 'Europeans' or just simply 'Whites', because all these terms 'Neolithic' 'EHG' 'WHG' 'Yamnaya' 'Aryan' etc is so loaded and speculative and working with odd bits of evidence.
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>>488985751
same reason bosnia and albania are not
they are muslim
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>>488990670
You are a high IQ poster. There are not many of you left.
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>>488987548
>We wuz neanderthalensis, yo!
Sure, there was a little interbreeding. Then the Aryans of the day saw the monster we had created and drove it out, south into Mesopotamia, where it evolved into the semitic race and has plagued us ever since. My Race and my Ancestors have two failings. First and most obvious is our overabundance of altruism, which is what jews always exploit in order to infiltrate our nations. Second, and more damaging, is our willingness to fuck anything on two legs if it strikes our fancy. If we had restrained ourselves at the beginning, there would be no jews infesting our nations like a cancer. Neither world war would have occurred, and very likely there would be no other races with which to contend for limited territory and resources. We could be an interstellar species right now if not for our willingness to imagine that the consummate materialists with a god complex could ever integrate with our civilization without trying to collapse it from the inside.
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>>488985751
Iran is multi ethnic, maybe some ethnicities can be considered “white” but not all of them
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if you want to take Hitler's words as Gosperl, they are (Hitler's letter to Reza Shah).

denying this means denying HItler as le perfect deity
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>>488990606
Guys the nazi is here no more fun allowed ..



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