Why don't you go to church, anons?
>>489000269It's wednesday.
>>489000269Turning the other cheek in ultra capitalist society simply does not work well.
>>489000269i go to church every sunday but im an atheist, hoping to pick up this cute 17 year old virgin when she turns 18 and make her my trad wife
>>489000269I go three to four times a week.
>>489000269Churches dropped the whole “God” thing and focused on gossip and potlucks instead. I don’t care about Ginny’s potato salad recipe, I care about my eternal salvation.
No one really cares. They blame you for everything, you are less inteligent, backwards, without you there would be bases on the moon and an eternal bliss.
Priest rape children. There is no society, everyone is selfish. Religion was all about society. Now you have likes, upvotes etc.
>>489000269Church is pozzed
Because she stopped loving me
>>489000537There's vespers on Wednesday, Anon.
>>489000269The Catholic Church is the one true Church, and if you’re baptised at all, you’re part of it even if you don’t know it.
>>489000269i dont worship a jew
>>489000905>religionI know what it sounds like, bit that's the problem. Everyone lost the plot. The whole point was to worship Jesus, who saved us from hell. That was the original intent of the Roman catholic church. People think catholics and Mormons are Christians. It's just like calling a tranny a woman.
>>489000997Go away pagan, Christians are talking
>>489000964>Because she stopped loving meOuch dude. Been there, felt that.
>>489000269The churches in my area are more-so social clubs for the elderly.I feel much closer to God when I'm alone in the woods or praying in my bedroom.
>>489000269Church is where you pray
>>489000269How can serious people like judges and electricians believe an invisible man controls the universe?
>>489000269Not where you pay
>>489001257How can anyone with a functional brain think the universe just popped into existence? How could any sapient being believe their sapience is a product of chance?
>>489000269For what, the fake god of the religion that supports replacing me with troons and brownoids? It's well on its way to dying off completely in the US.
>>489000269I keep finding hard to praise the guy that sent 90%+ of humanity into eternal torture, with still many more to come.
>>489001334Did the USA just pop into existence because an invisible man or was it all fog and mud before 1976?
>>489001114So Lutherans and Anglicans aren’t Christian?
Because I'm not an NPC and Christianity is anti-White.
>>489000269There's a church under my bed
>>489001440Did this post make sense in your head? Did you accidentally delete most of it?
>>489001584How thick is daylight?
>>489000269I go but I avoid service because I can’t stand kike idolizing christcucks.
>>489000269I want to go to church, I used to go with my family when my life was together. I have been alone and I think I need religion and the structure and belonging it brings in my life. But I'm afraid what I have done in my life Christ will not forgive me and I'm damned to hell no matter what. Churches scare me, I think the priest/deacon will recognize the evil that I bring and not help me.
>>489000269I don't worship the false jewish tribal demongod of foreskins or his supposed circumcised jewish son who refers to gentiles as dogs.
>>489000269NO PUSSY NO CHURCH NO GOD SIMPLE AS FUCKING NIGGER
>>489000269There's no god, jesus didn't exist and christianity is brown.
>>489000817>salvationFrom what? Yahwehs eternal moloch firepits in gehenna? Protip: they're not real.The afterlife is existing knowing what you've done so try not to be an evil cunt. Pretty simple.
>>489000269Nothing there except old people. Same tired Sermons every Sunday.
>>489000997The church of pederasts and literal rothschild bankers is a cesspit and always has beenhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liber_Gomorrhianus
>>489001068>to worship Jesus, who saved us from hellLoad of schizo nonsense.
>>489001114All yahwehist creeds are pagan. Yahweh is a pagan semitic god.
>>489000269Because I have been hiding from other people for years now, and people are at church. I watch sermons most days though, and read my Bible.
>>489002112Dudes like this are so stupid.>UMMMMMMM WHY R U SENDING ME 2 HELL!?!?!?!>I gave you every chance to get into Heaven and be blessed and rewarded with eternal bliss for a few years of 'being a good person' and you deliberately chose to spurn this because you found it unjust, so you miss out on it all and must be cast outWeeping. Wailing. Gnashing of teeth.You try to hide yourself from God with your pathetic little figleaves, just like Adam did. Your attempts to stonewall your condemnation aren't new. It's literally the oldest story in the book.
>>489001334Higher metaphysics do not require your insane jew god. God of a type yes. But not that demonic cunt in the OT.
>>489001526A church just flew over my house.
>>489000269Too many baby boomers.
>>489001856Jesus Christ came to be sacrificed on the cross for the cleansing of sins. If you feel badly for your sins then you can be saved, no man deacon or otherwise has anything to do with your salvation. All members of the church are only there to preach the gospels, anything else is from men and is not necessary. Seek Christ, read the Bible.
>>489002353>You try to hide yourself from GodI acknowledge God's existence.Your semitic demongod yahweh is not God.Your entire metaphysic is insane immoral jewish filth.
>>489000603Turning the other cheek is a communism thing.Jesus Christ was the first communist.That's why the jews killed him.
>>489002514>read the Bible.The bible is from men. Jews.
>>489002409>He's a demon!No He is not, and your histrionics don't do you any favors.It stands to perfect reason that our creator made us in His image. We are the only sapients on this planet and we are the only ones that seek Him out as a species -- and as you're a miserable wretch that hates and avoids Him, it's silly that you would consider yourself an expert on how He would engage with people that spend their lives seeking after Him. Your opinions on the divinity that you hide and flee from are nothing but silly.
>>489002469The youth church had to say, "no illegal narcotics." They just had to say that.
>>489001334Umiverse...Believeing that thing exists already makes you atheist.
>>489000269And then what? Listen to them making up reasons why we must import more niggers?
>>489002661>hates and avoids HimGod is cool by me. Your false semitic pagan demongod yahweh is not real and not God.Judaism is the merging of a primitive pagan midianite volcano god (yahweh) and the high god of the pagan canaanite pantheon (el). Pre Babylonian exile jews were poltheistic yahwehist savages who sacrificed first born babies TO yahweh and asherah among others.During and post exile judaism then blatantly plagiarises and retcons the code of Hammurabi, Babylonian creation myths and Persian Zoroastrian concepts. Laterly it plagiarised middle Platonism during the Greek hegemony. Everything they stole is then retconned and bastardised through the lens of collective jewish malignant narcissism.before being scrambled together in the Greek septuagint in Alexandria circa 300BCE in which they projected their own sordid savage religion onto foreign gods or "apostates" in quintessential jewish fashion ie accuse everyone else of what you're doing/did.. Christfags continue to go along with this blood libel of other people. Jews steal everything, corrupt it and then claim provenance. They are a nation of thieves and liars and those vices extend to their own retarded retconned creed, history and mythos.
>>489002514I've never read the bible, just some lessons from Sunday school, and some bible study groups in my adolescence. I keep hearing that John is a good place to start, and the other Gospels, instead of reading it cover to cover. Is that a good point, I can start tonight.
>>489002576>immoralby what measure? Yours? Based on.... your own opinion? Your angry, bitter, resentful hatred for everything virtuous, beautiful, and Light?
>>489002645You can doubt, that is your choice, but if you read the Bible you will come to understanding. The Bible was penned by God through the hands of many men, it is a beautiful book.
>>489002788Cool fig leaf, bro. I'm sure this will hide you from God's wrath.Too bad it's just a made-up garbage narrative that you've pulled together to justify your anger towards Christianity and Sunday School.
>>489002825Yes it's an excellent place to start. I grew up as a Jehovah's witness and fell away as a teenager. I didn't read any of the Bible at all until I was in my 30's, it was then that I felt that there was more to life than the physical and I picked up the Bible and started reading and now I am in complete belief in the divinity of Jesus Christ.
>>489000269>For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them.Why has no one posted this yet? We don't need manmade (((churches))).
>>489001856You know, the Catholic Church has the Seal of Confession. Everything you tell the priest, he is sworn not to tell another soul - not even the Pope. Confession is ordained by Jesus Christ himself when he tells his Apostles after his Resurrection:> Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained. - John 20:23All you have to do to receive it is to be baptised Catholic or Orthodox, or baptised Protestant and confirmed Catholic.If you wish to receive the Sacrament of Confirmation, contact your local parish priest and he will put you on track for RCIA, the Rite of Christian Initiation for Adults. Every time I receive the Sacrament of Confession, I feel my heart physically rise with relief that my sins are forgiven.
>>489002850>by what measure?Objective morality>Yours? God's>Based on.... your own opinion?Based on Logos and Nous from the Platonic Monad by which we can discover logic, mathematics, natural order and virtue ethics.>Your angry, bitter, resentful hatred for everything virtuous, beautiful, and Light?My metaphysic is the good, the beautiful and the true.Yours is semitic blood magick filth for semite savages.
I'm too ashamed of my poverty, shabby clothes, bad teeth from self neglect, mental illness, lack of piety, hatred for myself and others, etc. I would probably be welcomed, but I'm scared. I thought about going to a church that I don't particularly care for until the time that I can join one that I wish to join. I'm just realizing I don't think I've ever prayed for the strength to overcome these fears, so I'll do that now. thank you op
>>489002932>You can doubt, that is your choice,I don't doubt. I know the bible is immoral schizo filth penned by jews. It is a jewish power/revenge fantasy. Nothing to do with God.
>>489003063Because Jesus spent weeks setting up a church and the apostles spent their lives cultivating the church. The whole New Testament, (after the Acts) is doctrine to keep the church together.
>>489000269All the churches near me are not nearly antisemitic enough to be worth my time. The moment I hear some bullshit about "god's chosen people" I am fucking walking out
>>489003201Then you are blind indeed.
>>489003019>Too bad it's just a made-up garbage narrativeThat's your bible that is. Made up by low trust schizo merchant/slaver jews. Immoral filth.
>>489002825the Gospels (the first four books of the New Testament) are the first accounts of Jesus, the rest of the Old Testament is basically the book of Acts which is sort of the acts of the early church. then there are the Epistles which are the letters of the apostles, and then Revelation which is essentially prophetic of the end times. the gospels are a great place to start. my favorite theologian RC Sproul has a great beginners starting reading list that gives you a general overview of the Bible. if you Google his name and the phrase beginners starting reading list or something like that it will come up from ligonier ministries.. RC Sproul was a great theologian I highly suggest his videos as well
>>489000269No Orthodox churches near me.The local ones behave like mini megachurches and piss away tithes not to the local community, but funding outreach vacations in South America, Africa, and Europe, and buying 80k light systems for worship service.A lot of protestant churches are religious social clubs, with 10% income dues. Fuck that.
>>489003290>Then you are blind indeed.You are the blind one.Imagine believing in the salvific efficacy of scapegoat blood sacrifices to a semitic god of foreskins and gentile slaughter aka el/yahwehImagine believing in the alleged human sacrifice of his first born son ( also somehow himself) in order to save yourself from eternal moloch firepits that he himself created in gehenna/sheol under a flat earthImagine believing you can put your sins/crimes/misdeeds/karma/filth onto innocent chickens/goats/oxen/sheep/godmen/messiahs who are ritually sacrificed and consumed/believed in/accepted in order to appease/trick/satisy el/yahwehImagine a European believing in this incoherent, immoral, schizo, blasphemous jewish nonsense
>>489003063Everything made by man is corruptable - like todays churches. We need to be able to seperate ourselves from this world. If a true community, church, is not available to you, just meet up with a fellow brother or two. He will be there with you.>Again, Matthew 18:19-20.
>>489000269support for immigration meaning they hate the poor in their own countrysupport for chopping 40% of baby boys' penises offsupport for foreign countries over their own
Its just silly rubbish.A man is born from a virgin, with magic powers , he dies and comes back to life !Honestly it shouldn't fool children, all the magic special powers stuff makes all religions stupid
>>489003109Uh huh, but your posts have been quite clear to me that you have no relationship with God. You've never put time on your knees praying to the creator for truth, because you've done nothing but screech angrily at it (truth) this whole thread.You come across as an angry, bitter, resentful person -- not the kind of person that seeks God and follows moral principles at all. You hold nothing but contempt for your fellow god-seeking/god-fearing men. You've just spent the whole thread trying to justify your enmity for the bible.
>>489000635You will get NOWHERE with christcuck women. I already tried it you moron. >muh till marriage!>But we have to tip themmm! That's wrong!>Only god matters and his will not your own! Their pussy will rot and die not being bleed out until their 28. Worthless pigs should be on leashes.
>>489003407>We need to be able to seperate ourselves from this world.Yeh just run away from the world brah and let kike's run itThis is one way in which christfaggotry engenders weakness and enables jewry
>>489001469>so people who aren't catholics aren't catholics?Yes
>>489003300>>489003300also I highly suggest the ESV (English Standard version) for your first read through.. there's actually a "reader's edition" that doesn't include verse numbers and such so that it can be read like a book, as it originally was. the nasb (New American Standard Bible) is a very literal translation that is great to be used either by itself or in conjunction with something like the ESV or King James version when you have trouble understanding a particular passage due to the language. for me I basically only use the KJV because of the beauty of the language and prose, in conjunction with the nasb to help illuminate passages that I don't understand.. also read the Puritans, they are an incredible resource. monergism books has a lot for free on their website that you can download in a zip or individually..one last suggestion is to read Martin Luther's letter to his barber who asked him for advice on how to pray, which has been made into a book entitled "a simple way to pray".. in it he basically instructs his Barber on his own personal method of prayer which involves meditating upon the Ten Commandments, the apostles Creed and the Lord's Prayer. it is actually fairly simple to memorize all three of these, and once having done so you may use Luther's method which is basically something like I: Instruction - What does this prayer teach and instruct of us?T: Thanksgiving - Giving thanks unto the Lord C: Confession - Giving confession of your sinsP: Prayer - Sincere prayer unto the Lord
>>489000269Getting thrashed with debt due to buying a lemon house. Had to pick up a weekend job to get back on track. Progress is slow but steady. Still able to take the wife and kids to church nearly every other week. I miss being there every weekend. This whole experience has given me more push to improve on my prayer life though.
>>489003689>yeah kikes can run the world if I don't participate in it because somehow I can not participate in the world ran by those conniving kikes something doesn't add up, sherlock
>>489003689>Be in the world, not of it.Heathens will not understand what that means.
>>489000269Mosque is better, they segregate the women.
>>489002625So when people say “Jews created communism”, they’re not referring to Karl Marx, they’re referring to Jesus.
>>489003675>Uh huh, but your posts have been quite clear to me that you have no relationship with God.You are a semitic demon worship and have zero authority to determine anything about me let alone the one true God of the cosmos.> because you've done nothing but screech angrily at itI've calmly condemned the error, immorality and blasphemy of your semite creed. The anger is all yours.>You come across as an angry, bitter, resentful personProjection.> seeks God and follows moral principles at allYou have no authority on either God or morality. You blaspheme God with your immoral doctrines.>You hold nothing but contempt for your fellow god-seeking/god-fearing men.I hold contempt for the false>You've just spent the whole thread trying to justify your enmity for the bible.The bible is false. Blasphemous jewish filth as bad as the talmud.
>>489003839Martin Luther would have definitely browsed /pol/, he was likely autistic and perhaps even mentally ill. not for those reasons I just mentioned, but he is one of my heroes. an incredible and fascinating man, and a testament to how God may use the weakest among us as instruments of his will
>>489003904That's gay.
>>489000269I read the book. Don't need to see the play.
>>489003892Morals come from being a normal person that doesn’t hurt people because it’s bad? Why is it bad, well in a tribal setting you need to be able to rely on others to survive. We evolved to help each other. Similarly, adaptations have evolved that allow some people to abuse this trust.
>>489003861>because somehow I can not participate in the world ran by those conniving kikesWho allowed that hmmm? Christfags
>>489004007Jews at their Temples also segregate the women.
>>489003892You're so heavenly minded you're of no earthly use.
>>489004052?kikes don't "run the world" if you have the ability to not participate in it.doofus, off the ale for 10 minutes
It just feels like a cringe larp every time I go, I just have never been able to take it seriously even though it seems like a good thing
>>489001856Leave it all at the foot of the cross, fren. He will carry the weight for you.
Brothers you must be charitable to the pagans, atheist and Christ haters.. let us be charitable and loving, even those who are hostile to us2 Timothy 2:24-25 says, "The Lord's servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, patient, instructing with gentleness those who oppose the truth."
>>489004097>if you have the ability to not participate in it.Yeh just run away like a quietist coward. That'll surely solve all our problems. Infantile.
>>489001856>But I'm afraid what I have done in my lifeWhat did you do?
>>489004185?dude, the fact you are stuck in a self serving loop of doubt is your own fucking problem.there's literally countless realities that other people are living in.stop being a faggot
>>489002514>>489003064>>489003042>>489003300>>489003839thanks guys! time to get busy.
>>489000269I do. Like twice a month or three times
>>489004185>>489004266>This pyramid scheme keeps scamming me! Guys, you have to participate with me so we all get scammed! Your a fucking git if you don't, coward!Fucking idiot.Absolute fucking NONCE.You are so stupid.Stop being stupid, you make other people look bad.
>>489004269>the fact you are stuck in a self serving loop of doubtI'm not in any doubt.>there's literally countless realities that other people are living in.Subjectively yes. But this world is currently run by criminal kikes and their enablers. Simple as.
>>489000269I don't really like singing.
>>489003970>The Bible is false.I'll bite. Name one objectively wrong or bad thing about it - in the context of it being bad for society as a whole. I'll wait.>>489004024>Morals come from being a normal person.False. Bible states that man by default is evil. It is the Father that gives us understanding what is good.>We evolved.Picrel.>>489004084>Asks others to stop projecting, does so himself.
>>489004375The world you focus on.The media bullshit.>The world spoonfed to me by jews is ran by jews!No fucking shit.
>>489004269though he is not making it very well he does have a great point, and we as Christians definitely need to find the balance between withdrawing from the world and being good stewards of it.. one reason so many men have left or refuse the churche is because they view it as weak, but the Bible does command us to seek Justice and righteousness in our Civic lives, and I think many modern churches have forgotten that
>>489004345>Absolute fucking NONCE.I think you'll find that's you lot - and the kikes and muzziesYou just can't stop raping young boyshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liber_Gomorrhianus
>>489003970Are you trying to convince yourself?>immoral doctrinesSeeking God's Light through prayer and devotion is an "immoral doctrine"? Or was it "Treating fellow god-seeking men with respect rather than contempt" which deserves that title?That's rhetorical, because I'm off to bed and won't read your response.
>>489003121Going to church is like going to the gym. Don't worry about what others think of you, just focus on those gains bro
>>489000269I'm not religious so it wouldn't feel right towards people that are
>>489004441>>489004447>Noo you need to follow the directed narratives, or else.. I think.. we... duurrr..duurr..>WE>WE>WEDUURRR DUURR DA DUUUUURRRRRDo you faggots come to bed with me every night?No?Fuck off.
>>489004387No, I dont steal from people or hurt people because I dont want to be stolen from or hurt.I dont need fear of punishment to be a good person. I want to be surrounded by good people. Therefore, I am good. The bible had absolutely NOTHING to do with that.
>>489004387>Name one objectively wrong or bad thing about itNumbers 31>False. Bible states that man by default is evil. It is the Father that gives us understanding what is good.See here>>489003109
>>489000269Because I'm not a fag, poor, low IQ, a cuck, and I don't want to worship jews or suck their dick.
>>489000269I do every Sunday nigger
>>489003917oy vey stop noticing
>>489004313one more suggestion, and there's a lecture series on YouTube or my suggestion would be to read the book which is available on Anna's archive or libgen.. is to read the short book by RC Sproul called interpreting scripture.. it's very short only like 170 pages in my e-reader, is a really great short primer on biblical interpretation. teaches you the difference between exegesis and isegesis, gives you some history of the various methods of interpreting scripture use currently and in the past, and also covers things like concordances Bible dictionaries atlases etc. that beginners overview of the Bible was also taken from this very book.
I do. I'm getting married in a few months
Can any Christians answer me this: Why must one go through Jesus as a spiritual middleman, rather than pray and worship God directly? I'm more inclined to believe that Jesus' message was "get on my level faggots" to find God within and birth heaven on Earth, as in spiritual enlightenment, not to believe in some external God as an idea and faith in himself as the only way to go to heaven after you live.
>>489004483>Are you trying to convince yourself?No. You and thread lurkers.>Seeking God's Light through prayer and devotion is an "immoral doctrine"?Asserting blood magick scapegoat rites of sin transferenceAn utterly immoral and blasphemous concept and antithetical to justice
>>489000269I don't believe in god.
>>489004517>>Noo you need to follow the directed narratives>No you need to follow the truthYour anger is born from your semitic brainwashing and threats of being passed over into the moloch fires of baal yahweh in gehenna. This is what keeps you enslaved to the jew mind virus and why you're compelled to attack me who has stated the truth. You are a slave of jewish lies. A perfect NPC golem.
>>489004603
>>489000269I'm not a christian
>>489004660>You lot>Your!>YouFuckin dumbass, everything you type gets stupider and stupider.You must be a real nonstop gooning wanker.
>>489004387>Name one objectively wrong or bad thing about itYouve never actually read it have you?I mean sat down, first page to last page.Its really not that long, you can knock out in a day if you focus, two or three days at a confy pace.
>>489004603I'm trying to research an idea I had, it's similar to Pascal's wager, except the argument isn't that "you have very little to lose and everything to gain", but "even if it's not real, it's very beneficial to engage in".. I know that can't be an original thought.it's actually the way I got into Christianity, I had always noticed that even like Jamaican Uber drivers who were Christians were doing better and seemed happier than I was, lol, and also the realization that the West is under attack if not outright dying and a desire to preserve our traditions.. but God graced me with actual belief and faith. it has been the most potent and powerful thing to ever occur in my life. pardon the bad grammar and capitalization I am using voice to text because I'm a retarded 37-year-old Boomer who can't type on his phone without his glasses
>>489004707Even now you break your own doctrines by insulting those you disagree with like a spoiled jewish child.
>>489004387Oh, and feel free to skip the so and so beget so and so part.Spoliers, it ends in David and none of those other people are mentioned again. Its only like half a page anyway.
>>489004778I enjoy calling you a faggot.If that's a problem to you, by all means spew your sperglord tardation upon the board some more.You make it visible why we got rid of you from this land.
>>489004778This guy is spamming this board with this retardation, mods cant you do something please?
>>489004555Whats a sunday nigger?
>>489000269I'm not a lefty who needs to be hung (like all Christians).
>>489004807the pagan is right, you're being very uncharitable brother.. >2 Timothy 2:24-25 says, "The Lord's servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, patient, instructing with gentleness those who oppose the truth." This passage emphasizes the importance of being gentle and patient when sharing the Gospel, even with those who are hostile.remember that not only we are commanded, but you also have an audience and maybe turning them off, as well as the man you're attempting to convince. let us be known by our love and understanding and patience..
>>489004524You did shit by yourself. You were born a decent person because God is in you, that's the soul part. You simply won't admit it, yet. I hope that day comes soon for you, anon.>>489004527>Numbers 31Kek. Why not Exodus 22:18 or Leviticus 20:27?>Killing degenerates, that... degenerate society is bad.Try again.>>489004725Stop the projection, shill. Name the verse and we'll see.
>>489004807Very puerile angry bitter behaviour anon. Graceless you might say. Which is ironic.Scratch a christfag and you find a resentful kvetching angry little jew full of hate.
>>489004838>MODS he isnt sucking kike dick like the rest of us! MODS!Cuck.
>>489004838>waaaah ban himChristfags are woke SJWs 1.0
>>489004926I will pray for you this evening, so that you might hear and profit. I hope the best for you.
>>489004900You could lurk instead of posting, newfag.>>489004926>I don't know what a faggot is, he's being a bully online to me, and I can't summon bobbies on 'im!Fucking sook
>>489004907Ephesians 6:12.But you can just look that up, cant you?Just read it anon. Front to back. Sit down with a nice cuppa, and READ IT.
>>489004770I can't follow something I don't believe in, I'm not depressed or pessimistic about things either. I just go with the flow, don't let hate eat you alive.
>>489004982I've been here for almost two decades now I'm just voice to text posting so I look like an absolute retard lol.. but what is 4chan have to do with Christian doctrine beloved?
>>489004907>Kek. Why not Exodus 22:18 or Leviticus 20:27?Because I chose Numbers 31. Address it if you can.>Try again.I'm happy with my first choice.
>>489005014Vibes, man!For sure. Don't let hate get in the way brahh!!>/s reddit niggers>>489005034Fuck off, faggot.
>>48900026999% of churches are cucked and ran by heathens/women.
>>489005014you do come across as a very well adjusted and intelligent person, so I'm glad you're at peace. I will pray to further your understanding nonetheless.
>>489005083You cross as a fucking creepy dick riding sycophant weirdo.
>>489005102and you don't come across as a Christian, brother. which is the greater tragedy?
>>489004970>I will pray for you this eveningDo you think the eternal unchanging God will modify his plans if he's asked by a puny mortal creature? Quaint. Nice sentiment though presuming it's not passive aggressive virtue signaling. Physician heal thyself.
>>489000269Because I live in the Deep South and I am still unmarried with no fiance or girlfriend past the age of 35. No proper church will accept as I am assumed to be a predator or deviant due to my relationship status despite having grown up in the church.
>>489005156oh no I'm a calvinist, I don't think I have any bearing in the sovereignty of God's decision making, though the Bible asks us to pray for our needs and for others as well
>>489005059>ran by heathensTrue, few teach what the Bibel has actually to say, like cutting off your balls.
>>489005059>and ran by heathensIf only.
>>489005156What if His plan was doing something if you ask Him?
>>489005191>I'm a calvinistGod help us.>I don't think I have any bearing in the sovereignty of God's decision makingWhat use praying then?
>>489005204Not remotely what that's saying. Kill yourself, kike.
>>489005008>Ephesians 6:12.Explain yourself.>>489005044>>Killing degenerates, that... degenerate society is bad for said society.>>489005156In the grand scheme of things? No. Revelation must play out.
>>489005233I'm not prone to change my plans based on the sentiments of amoebas. I suspect it's quite similar in the case of God and man.In any case divine intervention would ruin the MMCRG
>>489005255I don't know. I only know what is commanded, and that I am a believer, and that by his grace I have chosen to submit myself to his will, as much as I am able. I was an atheist up until my mid thirties, and I'm not super intelligent but certainly above average intelligence, and always prided myself on my ability to think rationally and to issue any superstition or supernatural things, but I became a believer. I still often face doubt, but I persevere. there will always be more reasons to doubt than to believe, it's a conscious decision you have to make, though of course that decision is predestined from the calvinist point of view lol
>>489001114"fishers of men" makes a lot more sense now, i've NEVER trusted that parable and it has always fucked with me. >>489002327the final redpill. yahweh = saturn = ba'al.>>489003019>Too bad it's just a made-up garbage narrative that you've pulled together to justify your anger towards Christianity and Sunday School.HOLY SHIT the absolute state of bible-thumpers, the pantheon merging shit is literal archeological history and fact. you literally did the "um sweaty who hurt you" meme that college liberals do because you got BTFO.
>>489005375eschew* sorry like I said I'm a retard using voice to text
>>489004970The problem I have with religions, that none of you nuts seem to grasp, is the very odd, alnost uncontrollable desire to convince other people you figured it out.You ever wonder why that is?Ill tell you why. You require validation. You absolutely NEED other people to belive you for the simple desire of making yourself belief it.My faith doesnt require your belief or acceptance.And just for a little background.I was raised baptist. Went to bible school, went to bible camp, sang jesus loves the little children when I was five, all my idea. Even led multiple bible studies. Hell, until I was 12 I thought Christianity was the only religion. Not, the only true religion. Simply the only one that existed. Imagine my surprise...So I started asking questions...lots of questions. None were answered. So, I read the bible for the first time at 12, ive read it a total of five times in its entirety. Ive also studied theology extensively for two decades. And Ill tell you, the bible is BS. The NT is complete and utter BS. The OT had some real stuff in it, but its far FAR older than the 6k years it claims to be. Its also plagerized from aforementioned much older sources At BEST its just like any religion, someone's delusion got taken too far, at worst its an intentional tool of control to keep the goys in line. Youre a goy.
>>489005353>Killing degeneratesInnocent male babies and children and 32 girl children are degenerates are they?Nice demon you worship there pal.
>>489005347It is what it says and was practiced that way.
>>489005154We aren't brothers, idiot.
>>489005468Nope. You are a faggot kike.
>>489005190Well, its probably because you are. An unmarried 35 YO man?Youre a loser.
>>489000269It's closed due to illegal niggers staying there
>>489005443if you want to understand the Christian point of view, it's in the Bible, it's not about our personal feelings of validation, though certainly some Christians have fallen prey to these common Petty human desires, but rather it's about conforming ourself to Christ and following his teachings.. which command us to share the words and to be ready to defend our faith. I understand how it might appear that way from someone uninitiated though, and you've probably certainly actually experienced exactly what you've described at some point or another, but I assure you there are many Christians who do so out of a sincere love for you, or due to the fear of God who commands them to be an unashamed workman who shares the gospel
>>489005517>kike>In the New Testament genealogies, both Jesus' mother Mary and His stepfather Joseph are listed as descendants of Judah, through the line of David (Matthew 1; Luke 3). Jesus was not only a descendant of Judah, a Jew, but He was also of the Davidic, kingly line of Judah. Several verses refer to Jesus as "Son of David" (e.g., Matthew 15:22; 21:9; Mark 10:47).>God inspired the apostle Paul to write: "For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah" (Hebrews 7:14). In Revelation 5:5, one of the twenty-four elders calls Jesus "the Lion of the tribe of Judah." Long before His birth, it was prophesied that Shiloh—the Messiah, the Prince of Peace—would come from the tribe of Judah (Genesis 49:10).>In His conversation with the woman at the well, Jesus says, "You [Samaritans] worship what you do not know; we [Jews] know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews" (John 4:22). Jesus uses the pronoun "we," clearly including Himself among the Jews. The Jews, however, rejected Him, as John 1:11 says, "He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him.">Paul speaks of God "sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh" (Romans 8:3). Christ took on the flesh and blood of His physical parent Mary (Hebrews 2:14). Jesus was born as a human being by a divine begettal into the nation, area, and family of Judah. Yes, Jesus certainly was a Jew!
>>489005608You are not the Christian point of view, anon.
>>489005375>I don't know. I only know what is commanded, and that I am a believer, and that by his grace I have chosen to submit myself to his will, as much as I am able.Calvinism is utterly bizarre to me. All is just the will of an arbitrary capricious and malevolent mind you call "God".>I was an atheist Atheism is bizarre to me too.Both positions are entirely devoid of reason or Logos imho.
>>489005452>Not understanding the significance of blood, bloodlines and the concept of "seed".Try again, pal.
>>489005622I don't know what that means, but I'll respond in good faith if you care to elaborate
>>489005391>the final redpill. yahweh = saturn = ba'al.And cronus and setThoroughly nasty
>>489005621That's pretty cool, kike. Now, look at the part where the kikes killed Jesus and he renounced them.Oh wait, that goes against your bad propaganda. My bad.
>>489005391>"fishers of men" Picrel
>>489005623the Holiness of God is traumatic to unholy people I have heard it said before, the calvinist point of view is that God is incapable of malevolence or evil because he is the absolute embodiment of righteousness. there is a lot of mystery and hard to grasp and seemingly incomprehensible or contradictory concepts in Christianity, I will certainly grant you that oh pardon me I thought you were an atheist. I was quite into stoicism and the concept of the logos when I was younger.
>>489000269Some boomer opened the door to my bathroom stall the last time I tried to join a church. Of all the stalls, mine had a loose latch. He just walked right up to it, opened the door, asked if everything was okay, and left.I never went back. Church is literally for predatory fags.
>>489005632>Not understanding the significance of blood, bloodlines and the concept of "seed".Is that why the took the rest of the virgin girl children as sex slaves?Nice demon you worship there pal.
>>489005204There is a lot of shit in the bible, but this one isn't it. It very obviously talks about eunuchs in the sense of just not taking a wife and having kids, it's a concept there, not a physical reality of having your balls cut off, even if some degenerates took it literally.I am a lot more disgusted by the fact the book endorses communism, egalitarianism and unhappiness as non-negotiable values you'll go to hell for not following.
>>489000269If God existed we wouldn't be here.
>>489000635It's say when 3 or more are gathered in His name, you're at church, mein niggers.You don't need to pay a fucking jew tax
>>489005647People want realness, not references.Lurk instead of posting.
>>489005872I don't know what this means either, sorry. I'm going to keep doing my thing though lol. I will pray for you as well.
>>489005910Yea, you choose to be a newfag sycophant.Carry on, village idiot.You do your part to make everything as bad as you imagined it.
>>489005730>the kikes killed Jesus>The first followers of Jesus were essentially all ethnically Jewish or Jewish proselytes. Jesus was Jewish, preached to the Jewish people, and called from them his first followers. According to McGrath, Jewish Christians, as faithful religious Jews, "regarded their movement as an affirmation of every aspect of contemporary Judaism, with the addition of one extra belief – that Jesus was the Messiah."All of the 12 apostles were Jews, one Jew betrayed Jesus and the other 11 Jews were loyal to Jewsus. How do you conclude from this that the Jewsus was betrayed by Jews? (Also the Romans killed the little Jewsus)
>>489000269nty
>>489005948at whose behest did the Romans do this?
>>489005769Every post you make is just you telling people>Read a book, stupid nigger!Except you think you're being nice.
>>489005948>Bible states verbatim that the kikes killed Jesus>"Durr le romanzz"How's the weather in Tel Aviv?
>>489006013oh yeah definitely.. read the Bible. that is a very nice thing to tell people.
>>489000269I went every week for about 17-18 years until the pastor at the church died and I just stopped going
>>489000269>Why don't you go to church, anons?seems unlikely that a god exists. i think we just die and that's it. life is suffering and then you die. religion is the opiate of the masses, but so is fentanyl
>>489006042you have no real experience to draw from.you think to call others "brother" which says you didn't even read it.you're just like the other fat tiktokers.
>>489005853Worst chudjack ive even seen.
>>489005769>the Holiness of God is traumatic to unholy peopleMost likely>the calvinist point of view is that God is incapable of malevolence or evil because he is the absolute embodiment of righteousnessThat is also my view but calvinism is incoherent because it accepts the bible and all the nonsense therein>there is a lot of mystery and hard to grasp and seemingly incomprehensible or contradictory concepts in ChristianityBecause it's not true. Truth is quite simple. Complexity is usually a sign of manipulation and error in the field of theology and philosophy.>I was quite into stoicism and the concept of the logos when I was younger.Perhaps you will be again. I'm Platonist.
>>489006068well I had read your earlier post and assumed you were Christian and that's why I use the phrase brother, but I can't actually tell why you're upset with me or what your beliefs are. you just seem very angry. I will hear them out if you think I am in error though
>>489006004>at whose behest did the Romans do this?Their belief that this Jewish sect is dangerous. The fact is that Jewsus had preached his new cult to the Jews. The old testament is the book of the Jews and the new one is a splinter sect of this Jewish religion.
>>489006117You keep getting it wrong.I'm not here to equip you with verses to deceive further.You should probably learn what killing yourself really means instead of posting on 4chan all your little personal feel good diary entries.
>>489000269Because I'm a Muslim. I go to mosques
>>489006028>>Bible states verbatim that the kikes killed JesusThe Sanhedrin convicted Jesus of being a false messiah. They handed him over to Pontius Pilate and the Romans convicted and crucified him for proclaiming himself king over Israel, a direct challenge to the Roman Empire.
>>489006126it was the Pharisees who publicly decried Christ teaching and petitioned the Romans to crucify him
>>489005817>Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.>Further confirming the idea of seed. Almost like boys will grow up to avenge their fathers.>Does again not understand that boys continue a bloodline while girls are merely vessels for it.It doesn't get better for you, pal.
>>489006168I still don't understand your worldview or what you're upset about but I hope you figure things out and cheer up
>>489005910Stop posting and just READ the thread newfag. Thats what lurking means. Holyshit go back to r*ddit
>>489006272Yea, every post you make displays your utter confusion.You really are stupid.
>>489006230>>489006247According to you they were just acting in accord with yahweh's 4d chess masterplanThere's ample reasons to condemn jewry. This crud isnt one of themJew on jew crime.
>>489006302He's just jerking off his own little cock. He knows what lurk means. He doesn't care.Like a faggot.
>>489005657not familiar with those two, does it deal with the isrealite-hysko connection?>>489005746disturbing, but the "synogauge of satan" was referring to rabbitanical judaism specifically (6 points, 6 sides, 6 triangles). christianity did start out as a jewish sect so of course they'd initially try to mix traditional jewish symbols like menorahs.>>489006230oh fuck off kraut
>>489006302>>489006312I will not work, I will continue to be my cheerful retarded self.
>>489006247>the Romans to crucify himExactly, the Romans.
>>489006391Yet a minute ago you expressed your protocols as a good servant?What works were your posts consisted of then, sheer trolling outside of /b/?
Went every week as a kid up to confirmation. Normal Lutheran church I guess. Idk it was always a weird feeling and the other kids were all dorks that I never saw outside of church. Never believed and had to go to appease the family. My dad never went and after confirmation I didn't have to go and at 15 or whatever is was just lame. I miss the actual church though. Huge old building that I'd love to just walk around in now and then. Huge organ, big rec rooms, and just a cool place to be in. Haven't been inside in like 20 years at least. I've thought about going back just for the community aspect but it feels too weird just pretending as an adult.
>>489006268So girls don't contribute 50% DNA and child sex slavery of girls whose families youve just slaughtered is totally ok? Moral evil and no doubt.Nice demon you worship there pal.
>>489000269Modern religion is corrupt., and I can worship God without having to go to a building every Sunday with people i don't want to socialize with.
>>489006343oh I don't condemn Jews at all, just relaying the historical account as I understand it from the Bible. we are commanded to love everyone, that includes the jews. it was quite humbling for me to have to reconcile my worldly views with the commandments of Christ, especially that one since I was poltatd long before I was a Christian
>>489006418lol I'm more concerned with biblical doctrine than 4chan terms of service, however I have been totally earnest this entire thread I don't understand why you think I'm trolling.
>>489006230Mark 3:6>And the Pharisees went forth, and straightway took counsel with the Herodians against him, how they might destroy him.Mark 10:33>Saying, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be delivered unto the chief priests, and unto the scribes; and they shall condemn him to death, and shall deliver him to the GentilesPromptly fuck off, faggot.
>>489005948The romans were the gun, the jews pulled the trigger. But newsflash. That six million number?It has to be real, they have been trying for centuries to fool God, but they know, it has to be real. That means 6 million jews have to die. Therefore there are at least two seperate groups of jews trying to finagle the other group into getting killed.The jews arent united anymore than Christians or muslims are.But they all despise goy. And youre a goy.
>>489006353>does it deal with the isrealite-hysko connection?Bingo> but the "synogauge of satan" was referring to rabbitanical judaism specificallyAre you sure?>666 =Nero in the greek textEarly latin translations had 616 which also = Nero
>>489006509Is a brother abused by a brother more than a friend?A friend would not think to disturb boundaries.
>>489005848>It very obviously talks about eunuchs in the sense of just not taking a wife and having kids, it's a concept thereIt wasn't said in an obvious way and many people took it that way. And it doesn't matter whether you follow the Bibel and renounce all your masculinity and remain a virgin for all time or whether you cut off your balls straight away. Spiritual castration and mental castration, all the same.
>>489006465>oh I don't condemn Jews at all,Quintessentially christcuck
>>489006540I don't understand. do you think I have abused you? can you elaborate? lol I'm very confused by you. we don't have to continue talking if you think me to be a bad faith actor
>>489006425I think you two are on the same side.
>>489006609Ehh...wut?
>>489006575that's not to say that I have a problem with the modern nation state of Israel, and I will admit that I have a hard time finding where to draw the line between turning the other cheek and the commandment to seek righteousness, etc. I obviously I'm not ignorant to the injustices many countries face today thanks to the Jews.
>>489006425>Doesn't know females are malleable and follow strong leadership from their husbands.>Child sex slaveryStrawman. You better shill against Islam next time.>"Prophet" beds a 9yoStill waiting for the verse, pal. You pose as some wiseman in here but your lack of understanding and knowledge shows clearly.
>>489006607You think it cute to attempt to reach through the internet well past visitor hours in the country your flag is issued for, with the personal familial appeal of 'brother" to strangers anonymously?Your mentality is perverse, disturbing and disgustingly possessive.
>>489006668>that's not to say that I have a problem with the modern nation state of Israel,You fail to mention all the shit they do in our countries
>>489006518Exactly, he was a troublemaker and the other Jews did not like these Jews cult, just like the Catholics did not like the Protestants, the Jews did not like this Jewish splinter sect.
>>489006673lol settle down brother you're getting all worked up over nothing
>>489000269Because i live in a funky small town where everything is in swedish
>>489006709actually that time I did say brother too barb you, because you're being silly and vicious for no good reasons that I can tell.. forgive me
https://odysee.com/@KnowMoreNews:1
>>489006709>>489006745Just fuck off.
>>489006745to*
>>489006425>sex slavery of girls whose families youve just slaughtered is totally ok?Of course, Christcucks abolished that when there hippy Jew invented the New Testament.
>>489006760no thank you
>>489000269as an Englishman I am basically my own Church. Other peoples can commune with god through me. This isn't merely a matter of the Aryan-Pagan-Protestant development of Christianity within England but compounded by that as an Englishman I am also essentially god as Englishmen created the world.
>>489006795Then you'd be choking on your blood if this were a real conversation.I told you to fuck off.Now get the fuck out of my (You)s.
>>489006672>Strawman.The text is perfectly clear>You better shill against Islam next time.The same filth - sandnigger edition. I do that too.>Still waiting for the verse, pal.I rest my case. You call what is clearly evil as good. You're kiked in mind, body and soul.> your lack of understanding and knowledge shows clearly.Your lack of morality or reason shows clearlyNice demon you worship there pal.
>>489006832well thankfully it's a Mongolian basket weaving forum and your powerless to harm me. God is good!
>>489006786>Christcucks abolished that when there hippy Jew invented the New Testament.How decent of them. But their god yahweh commanded it. And they worship it and call it God no less.
>>489006871You can die in real life.
>>489006699I was alluding to it for sure
>>489006995I will, certainly, with the assurance of salvation from our sovereign Lord Christ =) I hope when your time comes you have the same. this thread has given me much to pray for. I think the fruitfulness of our discussion has reached and end, so I will do as you say and stop responding. best of luck to you.
>>489000269120 mile round trip
>>489006923The Old and New Testaments are completely different books with completely different morals. Old Testament was the vengeful and crazy Jewish tribal god and New Testament was the schizo three-part Jewish hippie god. That is like this because it was written by different authors with hundreds of years of time difference.
>>489006858>text is perfectly clearWhere does it say they immediatly had sex with them?>almost 50 postsIt's fine if we do not come to an understanding, but you need to cool your hatred against Christ, anon. Ask yourself where it comes from. Ask yourself why you cannot a single verse objectively bad for Christian believers.
>>489007085No, kid.This is text on a screen.Stop being an emotional faggot and learn to accept some real life knowledge.You can get stabbed, shot, exploded, punched in the throat and stomped out in real life.Quit being a fucking faggot.Lurk instead of posting like you're tweaking off an adderall prescription.
>>489007022So how is it virtuous or just to not hold them accountable? Or do you think man should not seek justice, law and order on earth? That way leads to the congo anon.
>>489007094out of curiosity do you have any family who are in the Eastern Orthodox Church? I noticed a lot of young Western men find it appealing, despite having no prior connection to it.
>>489007099IndeedOT = sadismNT = masochismBoth pathological
>>489006529>BingoNoted>Are you sure?>666 = Nero>Early latin translations had 616 which also = Nerodesu i was trying to put out an alternate meaning but again the 666/616=Nero is basically accepted as fact at this point (and the most plausible as revelations is literally some guy's stress induced dreams* as he was completely isolated from the rest of the church during heavy roman persecution).*there is the drug trip theory but that's a whole other rabbit hole that' i'm not well versed in
>>489007094The orthodox loved cutting off their balls the most.
I'm always in church as my body is my church and Jesus christ is in me.
>>489007149it may very well be, I have not progressed enough in my scriptural studies to determine this for myself yet, but I do follow both sides of the Christian nationalism debate, and have read Luther's work on the Jews.. I'm simply not ready to offer an opinion until I have the scriptural basis to back it up
>>489000269I don't like demons.
>>489007121>Where does it say they immediatly had sex with them?You pilpul is mizrahi tier and also morally repugnant demon worshiper.>but you need to cool your hatred against ChristYour characterisation of my emotional state is inaccurate. I will continue criticising false demonic yahwehist creeds.>why you cannot a single verse objectively bad for Christian believers.I pointed to an entire chapter of verses. Numbers 31.
>>489007252>I have not progressed enough in my scriptural studiesRead through pic related, it will help you a lot:>>489004846
>>489007222>some guy's stress induced dreams*>*there is the drug trip theoryPatmos is covered in magic shrooms
>>489007252Honest answer. I would encourage you to think for yourself. Also read Plato and Plotinus.
>>489007121>Ask yourself why you cannot a single verse objectively bad for Christian believers.“Here’s another old saying that deserves a second look: ‘Eye for eye, tooth for tooth.’ Is that going to get us anywhere? Here’s what I propose: ‘Don’t hit back at all.’ If someone strikes you, stand there and take it. If someone drags you into court and sues for the shirt off your back, giftwrap your best coat and make a present of it. And if someone takes unfair advantage of you, use the occasion to practice the servant life. No more tit-for-tat stuff. Live generously. “You’re familiar with the old written law, ‘Love your friend,’ and its unwritten companion, ‘Hate your enemy.’ I’m challenging that. I’m telling you to love your enemies. Let them bring out the best in you, not the worst. When someone gives you a hard time, respond with the supple moves of prayer, for then you are working out of your true selves, your God-created selves. This is what God does. He gives his best—the sun to warm and the rain to nourish—to everyone, regardless: the good and bad, the nice and nasty. If all you do is love the lovable, do you expect a bonus? Anybody can do that. If you simply say hello to those who greet you, do you expect a medal? Any run-of-the-mill sinner does that. “In a word, what I’m saying is, Grow up. You’re kingdom subjects. Now live like it. Live out your God-created identity. Live generously and graciously toward others, the way God lives toward you.”
>>489000269too much politics... praying for refugees and stuff
>>489007175My parents hate ChristMy siblings are druggies and drama queensI'm a single dadMy daughters, especially my oldest loves the Church.Attending is like a bath for my soul.
>>489007519I'm actually planning on getting into Thomas Aquinas soon and as I understand it he is one of the first fathers who Incorporated Greek philosophy into his theology, so I definitely will be doing so soon, thanks
>>489007248Based.>>489007175A big part of my extended family is Russian Orthodox. While still being closer to Christ than Catholics, Orthodox lose themselves in mere rituals like doing the crucifix 3x before entering a church, or doing it non-stop while prayers are being said. It almost feels like a pissing contest, who can bow the lowest.
>>489007579that's wonderful anon. I meant the Eastern Orthodox Church in particular though, as I just happened to notice a lot of young men in America who have no ethnic or family ties to the Eastern Church but are drawn to it. like say some kid who was born to parents who were Southern Baptist or something and ends up in the Orthodox Church. may God continue to guide you.
>>489007587>Thomas AquinasIt's basically a restatement of Aristotle who I advise you to read directly - from the man himself ie Aristotle.
>>489005848No i think its literal like when it says if your eye causes you to sin you should gouge it out. Jesus wants you to cut your dick off if you cant control your cooming. To jesus you being dickless is preferable to you being a coomer
>>489007673oh I absolutely intend to read the original sources too. that's one thing that greatly surprised me about developing faith, I've always been interested in I guess what you could call more academic subjects like philosophy and such, but despite having a genuine interest I never had the discipline or will to actually sit down and study, however after finding faith and diving into reform theology I have a almost unquenchable thirst for all sorts of knowledge, worldly or otherwise-- plundering the Egyptians as it were
>>489000269Modern Christianity is a lot like modern 'conservatives' and the average age is incredibly high.
>>489007611Welby bows and scrapes as well as the pope himselfThe ultimate performative virtue signaling and spiritual pride cloaked in acts of modesty and supposed self denigrating humilityQuite disgustingYahwehists are good at that
>>489000269because God doesnt hang on a cross.
>>489007789>Modern ChristianityOld Christianity is much better.
>>489007611I can sympathize, for me it's the reformed faith that spoke most to my heart
>>489007656I'm actually planning on switching from the American Orthodox Church to the Eastern Orthodox church because my eldest daughter is learning Russian and it would motivate me to learn it too. It's only an extra 10 miles out.l as well.
>>489007783I wish you well on your journey of learning and discovery anon. You may yet come to understand my position even if you don't fully embrace it yourself.
>>489007904I wasn't even aware there was an American Orthodox Church, I'll have to read up on it
>>489007941Thank you, I extend the same sentiment to you, and I'd like to think we both have some understanding of one another already, even if it is not as complete as we'd like. best of luck to you.
>>489000269because its jew shit
>>489007984You've maintained your composure in the face of my rather scathing critiques much better than most of the christians on /pol/. That's a very good sign. Kudos.
>>489007085>with the assurance of salvation from our sovereign Lord Praised be Yahweh! Praised be his chosen people!
>>489007861It was better yes, if for no reason other than it existed in a time when globalism wasn't as prevalent. Modern Christianity and the neocon are inexorably linked but I can't tell if this is because the neocon reshaped the church or the church created the neocons.
>>489007861No wonder kikes banned iconography. They're shit at it.
>>489000269Church is a social club for old people.
>>489008122amen
>>489001334It didn't pop into existence from nothing. No cosmological models say that. Eternal matter existing is more likely than God if you follow Occam's razor
>>489001334Apparently its ok for god to pop into existence from nothing though. Also, god is the ultimate intelligence and he came from literally nothing.
>>489008332Our German fren was being ironic anon>amenFrom whence does this term derive anon? Do you know?
>>489008450The Monad is eternal as is the cosmos - in one form or another
>>489008504lol, yes but i think often the best way to counter insincerity is with sincerityI think it comes from Hebrew or aramaic "it is so" or "let it be so", but I can't recall, no, sorry. do you know?
>>489008443>Nothing created something is was more logical than something created something, r-right guys?Time to sneed here >>489004387>>489008450>Guys, I am really sure that I completely understand God and his backgrounds, I swear!
>>489000269Because I am not a normie and going to church would feel strange as shit due to them singing songs and all kinds of stuff.I just want to sit in the back and listen but no, people are trying to talk to me and all the singing, too much "god this and god that", and not forget that all churches around here are htbq friendly with faggotry so I don't know. I am trying to watch church live streams on Sundays but man it feels cringe because the whole singing praising god every 2 minutes ain't my shit with overhappy people.I want to go, but I don't feel at home for shit.
>>489008758You don't need to go anon. Find 2-3 likeminded brothers and Christ will be within you.
>>489008653>lol, yes but i think often the best way to counter insincerity is with sincerityYou may be right on that.>do you know?Not for sure. There is speculation it's Egyptian. Ancient Egyptians called the jews Set worshipers - Set being the evil god of foreigners, deserts and chaos. Quite apropos really.There is good evidence from Manetho that jews were leprous hyksos mutts expelled from Egypt where they first heard about monotheism from Atenism.
>>489008288maybe they're just shit at being icons.
>>489008758>all the singing, too much "god this and god that"Think how God feels! KekNo one likes God botherers. Least of all God.
>>489000269I couldn't find a single church that doesn't worship the holy nigger. Also all but one of them worships the holy gay and many also worship the holy jew. Finally, I accepted after years of theology and mental gymnastics, that I just couldn't LARP as a Christian any longer and that the religion was an irredeemable pile of shit that deserves to die. All these churches and all of these Christians are degenerates, every last one of them. It's also all nothing but boomers and sometimes you find a drug addict or mental asylum patient that is younger or some young shitskins. Never any young people worth a shit go to any churches.t. Ontario anon fed up with trying to salvage Christianity or get a wife and community out of it
>>489008980That too.Picrel is some of their early attempts.
>>489009043>Others are sinners and lost, and therefore I am too!You can be different, anon. Don't give up yet.
>>489008758might I suggest the book "the duties of Christian fellowship" by John Owen, you'll be able to find it for free in English or your mother tongue. I had similar issues, and while I haven't yet joined a church, I remember being turned off by certain live streams of congregations that seem to me to be to saccharine, I was desiring something more somber and reverent. I'm not certain there's any biblical basis to give validity to those feelings, but I experienced them for sure. I ended up finding the Orthodox Presbyterian Church here in the US, as well as heritage reformed churches, which are essentially Puritan. I also like that the HRC churches only sing the psalms. there's a man named aw pink, who is a fairly famous theologian from the mid 20th century, who had trouble finding a church that he felt was suitable for him and so did not seek fellowship for many years until his death. his wife said it was a great tragedy and began to attend local worship after his passing. perhaps reading commentary on him, or his own words, might benefit you
>>489000817Salvation from what? A bullshit narrative that you are condemned to go to a so called hell because your ancestors are evil because of a talking snake tricked a woman into eating a fruit?Go smoke DMT and learn astral projection and stop with this messiahs and salvation and original sin bullshit. You have an astral body that will outlive your physical body.
>>489008921that's interesting I'll have to look into that
>>489008816I don't think I need the 2-3 like minded people around me to have Christ with me. I know he died for my sins, his King but man will he judge me and I am going to hell big time.At least I am trying. I ain't baptized, I am trying to read the bible but I cannot get through the old testament. Listening to an audiobook and man it's just drama and shit and it bores me. I hope the new testament is better than the old testament.I feel lost and I don't feel Christ, but I know his watching over me. Otherwise my life would be shit but he has given me success ever since I didn't pursue black magic and satanism any more.
>>489009043Join a salsa class. Lot's of women and not all sluts either.As for metaphysics - make the patrician's choice ie Platonism.
>>489000997I'm baptized and Catholicism is stupid and superstitious and turned me into an atheist for awhile until I found god again through montalk.net and realized god is far greater than the bullshit that church-goers believe in.
>>489009043>I couldn't find a single church that doesn't worship the holy nigger
>>489009232>not baptisedThen let a brother do it. Again, get the concept of >you. dont. need. a. (((church))).
>>489005608Yeah, you didnt tead my post at all. Youre just shitposting.
>>489001068>worshipping a man>believing in hell and a god that would send you there
>>489001183Same here.
>>489009181thanks man, I will definitely get that book to read. Cheers for sharing your story as well.
>>489009310I do have a habit of only reading the first few sentences and then replying to only that while ignoring the rest of a post. but you know how it is, tl;dr, etc. sorry! lol
>>489001191Churches is where you hear some guy talk for a few hours and hear some quick mumbling and then you have to leave before you get a chance to do any serious prayer.
>>489009209The ancient world is quite fascinating. Ancient Egyptian religion was highly moral contrary to jewish propaganda in the OT.Ma'at is the Egyptian analogue of the Greek Logos ie divine orderLook up the laws of Ma'at.
>>489001334Good question. A lot of christcucks believe the universe has a beginning, that it just popped into existence one day as the result of god, instead of the universe itself being eternal.
>>489009421oh yeah I've got some great courses/ttc lectures on Egypt from some dude named uhhh robert something.. he was from the UK and has a slight lisp.. the first course I got from him was called the other side of history and was basically a look at different cultures over the ages from the viewpoint of the common Man which he thought was overlooked in favor of the rulling classes typically, I've always loved egyptology. I look forward to learning more about it.
>>489009421>worshipping EgyptAs expected.
>>489001856Christ is fake, the whole concept of an external saviour/messiah is fake, the only one who has condemned you is yourself, the only one you need to seek forgiveness from is yourself, and the only way to heaven is within because it's not a place it's a state of mind and a state of synchronicity that protects you from unfortunate events or mitigates the impact of unfortunate events or lets you see things for what they are and therefore they have no power over you.
>>489001947God is real but is not a personal being. God is the all and we are part of it while not being identical with it.
>>489009492>>worshipping EgyptI don't "worship" Egypt you imbecilic kraut.>>489009490Here's the laws of Ma'at.
>>489009613>I have not made anyone cry imagine being held to that in the modern age lol, the average person is so capricious and emotional these days we'd all be cooked
>>489002112Literally all psychic people can see all the fucked up shit in people's minds/memories/personality-complex. It feels disgusting to psychically connect with many people so we either turn away from them in disgust or if for some reason we decide they are going to be part of our life we look deep in them, see exactly how they think and feel and why, and start to work a higher influence on them so they become disgusted with themselves and turn away from their perversions and towards higher things. The only thing he has to fear from us higher beings is a turning away from him, leaving him to wallow in his own darkness. Whenever he is ready to go to war with his own lower nature we are there to help.
>>489002336Nothing can ruin Christianity for you than an encounter with Christians. Back when Christianity was just the content of my books I could contend with it, it took actual encounters with these subhumans called Christians to make me thoroughly repulsed by the religion.
>>489009694With all the chaotic spoiled retards running around today it would be difficult yesBut these moral laws are very advanced for their time - and still hold up for the most part
>>489009613I quite like that. but you know where I believe morality comes from, even theirs.
>>489009734That makes perfect sense to me.
>>489009613>continues to post egyptian morale code>I HAVE ENGAGED IN MAGICLeviticus 20:27
>>489002514Jesus Christ didn't die for anything you're a scapegoating jew no different from a jew twirling a chicken around his head.You have to suffer for your every evil inclination until you get over your evil ways and create better habits, simple as.There is no pointing at le dead rabbi and there is also no delayed justice, the balance of the cosmos is being worked out every moment, not at some arbitrary later date like your death.Literally just stop sinning. Sin hurts you, not an angry god, not a fiery place called hell. It's the sin itself that hurts you. The solution isn't a crucified rabbi, the solution is to JUST STOP SINNING FFS.
>>489009870>you know where I believe morality comes from, even theirs.Objective morality is grounded in the Platonic Monad or "God""Pagan" Egyptians and Greeks would agree.
>>489010052I look forward to reading the Greeks so that I can more meaningfully engage with you, you've given me a lot to think about.
>>489007904I’ve been to a Russian Orthodox Divine Liturgy. Everything except the sermon is in Slavonic, which is basically the Slavic equivalent of Latin - for the lack of better words: a dead language in the respect that nearly nobody speaks it.
>>489009300>Then let a brother do it. Again, get the concept of >>you. dont. need. a. (((church))).already on it.
>>489010033Then tell us, how do you know that sin is?
>>489009987Posting moral codes is not magic.Magic in the form of theurgy is based and good though.Blood magick scapegoat rites of sin transference are debased and bad though and that's what you believe in
>>489010099or people like you anyway, the ephemeral nature of discourse on anonymous image boards and all lol
The Council of Nicaea and its consequences has been a disaster for humanity
>>489010099>you've given me a lot to think about.Good.>>489010179Kek
>>489010205Did you once post links to a playlist series about metaphysics by a swami. If so I'd appreciate a repost of the link fren.
>>489010178>Posting moral codes is not magicDidn't say it was, it's just lacking on the list you posted.>magic is good...Anyway, we're done here. Gl boys.
>>489010373>it's just lacking on the list you posted.Better than the crud jews came up with>mutilate baby dick>slaughter gentilesSavages
>>489009232Have you considered the Catholic Church? It’s against the LGBT agenda unlike Svenska Kyrkan. I’m guessing in Sweden it’s mainly Polish diaspora, but Poles are based.
>>489002825I agree the Book of John is the best.You can get through the entire KJV audiobook while playing games and whatever in 3 weeks if you listen about 12 hours a day btw. I did this back when I was 25. Read a book called Basic Theology by Charles C. Ryrie over 8 months when I was 24 before that. You can also find other good translations like NASB in audioformats too online.Just make sure to study the theology in a systematic, orderly way, going over all the possible positions one can have on any doctrine. Make sure you aren't ignorant of anything.Btw, it'll be near impossible to find serious theologians to study with, and boomer christcucks will get actual mad and yell at you in a very inappropriate way because of you asking too many questions and wanting to understand everything.Also, if you ever demonstrate any psychic phenomena in line with John 14:12 and do things that Jesus did, then boomer christcucks will see you as some kind of demon and treat you horribly and with fear. Don't you dare know the thoughts of men or heal the sick or project power in any way, the boomer christcuck would put you to death if it was still the medieval ages, these days he'll just sabotage you in various other ways.
>>489002850>Your angry, bitter, resentful hatred for everything virtuous, beautiful, and Light?Describes boomer christcucks exactly. Just go look up stories of how they ostracize people for things like spiritual healing, mediumship, etc.
>>489002932You ever read any translations of the Bible because it's very obviously confusing, schizophrenic, self-contradicting (despite all the editing to try and make it work), jew-centric, etc. it's utter trash compared to the works of the Hermeticists or the Hellenists.
>>489010521Joel Beeke has a great 4-part systematic reformed theology in print thats available on Anna's archive and likely lib gen, John Gershners "hand out theology" video series on YouTube, or his book primitive theology (short primers on various theological concepts intended for the beginner) and of course van till are all good resources for someone interested in the reformed perspective
>>489003019>>489003042So you guys confirmation biased yourself into thinking your local flavor of christcuckery is right after you realized the bible got a few things right and then you just threw out critical thinking and started blindly accepting everything.
>>489003064>Every time I receive the Sacrament of Confession, I feel my heart physically rise with relief that my sins are forgiven.Do you then go out and prostrate yourself before a black bull and tell him about how you're sorry for sins you didn't even commit yourself but your ancestors supposedly did to help further cleanse yourself of the guilt for a little bit until you have to do it all over again because the guilt never really leaves you?>The Psychology of Shame with Gerald Fishkinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL2BwsCgsdY
>>489010507>Have you considered the Catholic Church?yes, there is one but the Catholic Church in Sweden are is filled with htbq gay shit like the rest of the churches around here.I believe there are only two churches that ain't like that around here, an Syrian Orthodox church. It's only Arabs going there. And then some kind of "lifecenter church" which seems to be younger people but they seem cringe as fuck. There is a Catholic Church as well, small one but like said - its been infiltrated by htbq shit. Their website doesn't say anything about it but I don't know.https://www.lifecenter.se/linkopinghttps://stmarkus.se/https://www.katolskakyrkan.se/hitta-din-narmaste-kyrka-eller-forsamling/s-t-nikolai-linkopingplease have a look and if you think any of these are worth going to - i will go there this Sunday. And that I will make a promise to you.
>>489003121You are literally the perfect candidate in terms of being vulnerable to cult conditioning.Churches prey on the mentally ill and addicts and criminals and retards.
>>489000269Why can't christlarpers just decide which special offshoot of their desert fanfiction book is the "real" and "true" one?
>>489010839You have a dirty mind.
>>489010839the irony of someone with a natsoc flag linking a Jewish psychoanalyst does not escape me
>>489010937sweet, my sanctification may then be even easier than I anticipated
>>489003216John 14:12 is all you need to know that Christianity today is total bullshit and these so called Christians are just garbage people.Also history of the mystic adepts / saints always being persecuted by the religious people around them. Whether it's Islam or Christian or whatever, the holy men are always persecuted by the religious people, because true spirituality is ALWAYS at odds with these degenerates who go to churches and believe false doctrines and never do the things that the apostles and Jesus were known for doing and which inspired so much faith.True religion is about helping your fellow man not pointing to a dead rabbi and asking for forgiveness from an imagined delayed punishment.
>>489010653>primitive theologyAppropriate term for yahwehist creeds
King James BibleVerily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.https://biblehub.com/john/14-12.htm>always use this as a litmus test before you listen to the schizo babble of any so called "Christian" preaching his ignorance to others, never believe what some fat disgusting slob priest or preacher drivels on about when he can't even demonstrate with his own life any virtues or powers.
>>489010944You project too much methinks.
>>489003383Man they are worse than that here. Here they use the money to fund faggotry, feminism, and invaders. Not just travel and preaching to starving nignogs that will say anything for free shit from whitey but actively funding the destruction of Canada.
>>489000269i go to the temple in my mind
>>489010941Good question. There isn't one is the answer. Error is legion.
>>489011202oh absolutely, I particularly like the title as well, the Lord and his wisdom made what is essential to salvation so very easy to understand that even a child could comprehend it, while also providing a vast intellectual depth for those able and willing to seek it
>>489003407Again, John 14:12. You're way better off just congregating with seekers after truth and power and self-mastery and virtues, then with people fixated on jewish folklore and scapegoating.
>>489011070>Whether it's Islam or Christian or whatever, the holy men are always persecuted by the religious peopleVery true. Whats more the true mystics all agree with each other regardless of nominal creed.
>>489003605Sometimes daughters are born of women (they are clones btw) without insemination. So virgin births do happen.Also all the psychic phenomena is real. I hope if you realize that psychic phenomena is real you don't just become a christcuck all of a sudden.
>>489003675Jesus himself had nothing but contempt for the religious authorities of his day. He's literally being christ-like while you are being pharisee-like.
>>489000269Because abrahamic religions are cringe
>>489003688The only christcuck women I've ever encountered were older than me, on SSRIs, hair falling out because of the aforementioned drugs, and clearly had something about them that was dysgenic. Normal white women stay away from churches.
>>489010920I can understand “hate the sin, love the sinner” and we are called to love everyone, but that doesn’t mean affirming sin because it’s ‘nice’ to let people do what they want without criticism.I’m a bit rushed by the bump limit.There’s a real based bishop from Norway who speaks against the LGBT. Look him up. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YMX48A6fHcw
>>489011350>what is essential to salvation so very easy to understand that even a child could comprehend itSalvation from what? A reified entity called "sin" (because eve or something) and eternal gehenna?There's nothing easy to understand about feral nigger child rapists getting to heaven if theyre sorry/saved while virtuous "infidels" be damned.Your creed is asinine, immoral, unjust and absurd. Only an imbecile or the brainwashed could accept it.
>>489003839The ten commandments are reductionist simplistic jewish shit. The Israelites literally go out and kill tons of people despite muh don't kill anyone rule, and they also do all the other things they're not supposed to do, as long as it's against an enemy tribe. The apostles creed is everything wrong with Nicene Christianity. The Lord's Prayer is dumb.Martin Luther was an interesting historical figure but he was not a saint. He did not do the things the apostles did.
>>489003892>that picI always post authors, books, doctrines, beliefs, etc. I have usually citing William Walker Atkinson, Tom Montalk, Bernardo Kastrup, etc.I'm not about just deconstructing the religion, I have my own coherent and logical worldview based on first principles.
>>489011710it is hard to understand, that those who are so wicked are offered forgiveness, but it is also comforting to me than that same forgiveness is on offer to me as well
what if i told you that you have been arguing with pajeets in this thread
>>489011660thanks i will look at it. i will also try to go to one of the churches on Sunday. at least try
>>489003983How do you think god's will works and what do you think thwarts god's will?
>>489011841>that same forgiveness is on offer to me as wellAre you a wicked horrible person? I think not.Perfect justice is existing in the afterlife knowing what you've done. Simple as. So try to be virtuous. Simple as.
