I thought sanctions were safe and effective?
>>489028002but..but...the moldovian spammer said they have smaller gdp than Italy
>>489028002>jeet economy is more than half of AmericaNobody actually believes this shit?
>>489028740It seems CIA, IMF and World Bank do. What makes you think gender consultancy is “real” economy but industrial production isn’t?
>>489028740from all the American boomers they scammed
>>489028740That's what happens when you have massive population
>>489028002>being part of the global liberal order makes you poorer REALLY MAKES YOU FUCKING THINK
>>489028002>Believing anything the CIA or any other western governmental body saysHoly kek
>>489028740the fact that muttistan is near the top is all you need to know to understand jewdp is a bullshit stat
>>489029472I love third world nigger countries like itally trying to shit on the American economy You people are so fucking delusional no wonder Germany dominate your shit continent so easily
>>489028002You lost me at jeets being no.3
>>489029594What does America produce?
>>489029622Other than Germany its roughly just the most populous countries
>>489028002>spending all your money on things that blow up (intentionally and unintentionally) instead of healthcare, education, infrastructure, or scienceTake a look at the rouble. Those numbers don't mean what you think they mean.
>>489028002GDP is a funny thing.
>>489029663What does the USA produce? >top food producer >top oil producer >13% of all global manufacturing 2nd only to China which now does 22% of global manufacturing >virtually all high end financial services >cars>rockets and satellites >most of the worlds software >all high end chips (soon to be all chips) >most of the heavy machinery in the world >virtually all chemicals >virtually all media, film and entertainment Do I need to go on?
>>489029622They produce nothing except call center scams
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)
>>489028002Yeah Russia is so great and awesome you should shut the fuck up and move there you pussy ass faggot
>>489029594totally, tranny, that's why your shithole has a negative trade balance with every country on earth. you trannies have done nothing but consoom for 30 years, the only thing you produce are the dollars needed to sustain your bottomless consooming
>>489030079>you..your a tranny! Lmao you aren’t even white spic boy
>>489029834>virtually all media, film and entertainment>virtually all high end financial servicesExactly. That’s most of your economy.Everything else is made in China. Or India.
>>489030135whites are slavish obedient cuckold, i ain't one for sure
>>489028002>China bigger than America>GM Saars number 3going to have to kill myself
>>489030136India doesn't manufacture shit>>489029921Then why do Spics run to the states to camp outside of home depot begging for work?
>>489029904>nominal Irrelevant metric.
>>489030136>pick out two things to quibble with that are massive industries but I’m going to arbitrarily say they suck cause reasons. Shut up you fucking poor. Your entire country is based on tourism from Me and the Britt’s to get fucked. I’m so happy trump got reelected and we can fast track ignoring you upity little pissants once and for all. Such unearned feelings of superiority when you exist as a parasite vassal of our empire.
>>489030194Lmao chinaman in Italy seething ?
>>489028002By 4th you mean 2nd after the US if you eliminate all of the western businesses squatting in India and China, breaking their economies and turning them into irrelevant rice farmers again.
>>489030202Neither does USA. You’re like 40 trillion in debt my man. You’re not actually a productive nation. You just offload inflation to others and tax your vassals. USA could pop out of existence tomorrow and world would be a better place for everyone else.
>>489030136they have a strong economy of jesters and negro entertainers :^)that's why their massas ditched le free market crapitalism in favor of protectionism and the obedient cattle applauded
>>489030221PPP is for niggers trying to feel rich.
>>489028002The oldest or second oldest currency still in circulation, you thought sanctions were going to end it? The currency has survived more drama than this ukraine war
>>489030302i'm italian
>>489028002fake chart gib link faggoterbs
>>489028002This news is months old.
>>489028740They've got 2 billion scammers, and a whole bunch of them have been out working in foreign lands as "students" sending money back home since before covid.
>>489030309This, idk why Chinese and Americans don’t understand this All of China’s industry is American industry that’s there to use cheap Chinese labor. That’s it, once it’s no longer cheap to build in China. (A la tariffs) their entire economy will evaporate
>>489028740Nigger, you just need like $10k of investment for some laptops, office chairs and headsets to make Millions by scamming Americans.
>>489030336China is in more debt in relative terms by far lol
So... why can't russia afford to produce enough armament for their war despite their economy being in war mode? Why do they need to beg North Korea for military aid and Turkey for butter?
>>489030270your massas lost, negro
>>489030353GDP is bullshit anyway, but nominal GDP is utterly irrelevant. Take a notice of this war in Ukraine. Russian arms industry is outproducing entire NATO by a big margin. How? Sure, they have a big arms industry, but how is their economy surviving that? According to you, they are smaller economy than Italy.When metrics don’t reflect reality, something is wrong with them. Or you give yourself a lobotomy and imagine Italy is as powerful as Russia. Your choice I guess.
>>489028002um the curve takes time to be flattened, ok?
>>489030425And my cat is a horse.
>>489030602Someone finally gets it. Reason why India's so high on the list now is because China's been getting uppity with their demands and higher standards.
>>489030669I don’t see them begging anywhere. You’re just being hyperbolic and gay. Why is the mightiest nation in the world begging Israel and South Korea for shells to give to Ukraine?
>>489030653>China is in more debt in relative terms by far lol
>>489030716nah you're the archetypical germoid white cuckold
>>489030671>balance of tradeMeans nothing we are still the 2nd largest manufacturing power in the world and most of Chinese manufacturing is just our manufacturing done In China Stay mad
>>489028002When did China surpass USA?What is the source of that pic?
>>489030878Russia is begging North Korea for shells lmao
>>489030892What does that have to do with Chinese debt to gdp you stupid spic?
>>489031021Okay then, USA is begging South Korea for shells too. What now?
>>489028002That's cute, now let's see the population numbers..
>>489028002This is the real pic btwKys OP faggot memeflag
Post in-store prices.
>>489031153Nah, that’s nominal GDP. This is PPP.
>>489030984>Means nothingabsolutely retarded, give it a few more years and china will have enough $ to buy every single american strategical asset legally
>>489030602>>489030844>Thinking India has know how and organization to replace China>Because Chinks just copy stuffKek memelordsChina exports cars and electronics to most of the world, losing Muttland will shake them but Muttland will shake moreIt's Xiover
>>489028740For every 1 American(including spics, niggers, American jeets, towel heads ect ect) there are 4 Indians. Do you understand the threat of white genocide yet?
>>489029904kek they are worse than 50mil italy fucking ziggers
>>489031037china is a net creditor, you're the world debtor. oof what a cold shower for mutted tranny
>>48903115311th place is pretty good considering they got looted and raped HARD by jews during communism.
>>489031153kek OP btfo
>>489031108Begging for what? They arent the ones fighting a war at the moment.
>>489028002>muh peepeepeekys ivan
>>489029834>Americans make cars I think you missed a couple memo's in the last 50 years boomer.
>>489031037You don't understand how debt works.When Zhianites talk about debt to GDP ratio they talk about the total Chinese debt (central government + local governments + probably others) which is not the way debt to GDP is calculated for other countries, I.E. US federal gov debt + state gov debt is never calculated.For example Illinois is 65b in debt.Just use https://www.usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html and don't be a retard.
>>489031218Explain in your own words what the difference between the two is and why you picked one over the other. Without angry sperging of "these numbers make my dirt poor shithole look better than it actually is."
>>489031218Yes and therefore you are a lying faggotYou use nominal to compare the economies between countriesPPP is used for the living standard inside the country
>>489031457USA was also “begging” for South Korea to give them shells to send to Ukraine. Why are you being intentionally obtuse? No one’s begging. Russians buy shells from NK in addition to producing shitload themselves. In fact they alone outproduce entire NATO by a big margin.
>>489031512Nominal is used to compare the actual wealth between countries.PPP is the living standard, i.e. 1 dollar in China is worth more than 1 dollar in the USA, so a Chink making 3k per month might be living like a king, while an American is homeless.
>>489031518you don't know what either is fordollars aren't an absolute unit of value in case you didn't know
>>489030708>Russian arms industry is outproducing entire NATO by a big margin.1000 days into the 3 day special operation. NATO isn't fighting a war Russia is. Do you think if the USA said time to end this with force that Russia would last a week before surrendering?
>>489031518Nominal GDP is rubbish. It doesn’t mean anything in real life. Russians or Russian government aren’t procuring services in dollars. Stuff doesn’t have the same cost. GDP itself is a shit metric in any case. It’s just funny how Russia somehow isn’t collapsing even according to your own rulebook.
>>489031502>>489031496>>489031301>>489031221Bunch of salty Europe’s apologizing for the chinks I bet you joggers thought Harris would win too? You aren’t very bright America will come out on top easily I am telling you now to be prepared or go down with the sunk cost of chink nonsense Up to you fags doesn’t bother me either way
>>489028002>Nice try, faggot.
>>489031816>NATO isn’t fighting a warOnly in the sense they aren’t dying, in the sense of everything else they are. Ukrainian Army is at this point fully supplied and paid by NATO.
>>489028002As usual, /pol/ is full of midwits. IMF reports are based on what they are provided with from government agencies. Big shocker, Russia reports their economy is doing fine.
>>489031816That's cool and all troon, but if nato is so scary why haven't they already declared war on Russia by now and taken them out?You know they're just salivating at the prospect of seeing Russia destroyed
>>489032050>IMF reports World Bank and CIA concur too.
>>489028002RUSSIA IS BASED
>>489032038If that's the logic we're using, Ukraine is fighting against Iran, China, India, and North Korea. Americans also fought the Germans at Stalingrad. Very brave of those mutts.
indian gdp $13,104,000,000,000?lmao not even modi fakes that much
>>489031650International dollars are only used as an example, you could use any currency instead of it. And they are not actual dollars btw.Just needs to be a common currency, but what matters is what you can buy with that currency.Like I said PPP is great to compare standard of living. An average Chink is richer than an average American because his money can buy more stuff.But when you need to compare the international economies strength you use nominal.
>>489031915Answer the question. Explain in your own words the difference between the two and why you think PPP is a better representation of wealth.
Francebros... it's not looking so good... I hope Trumpo will buy our wine...
>>489032189NK, China and Iran aren’t funding Russia. They’re merely providing shit Russians buy. Russia is fighting war on its own. Ukraine isn’t buying or producing their equipment. They aren’t making it themselves. They are fully reliant on NATO intelligence. It’s a de facto NATO army and NATO is involved in this war. European NATO couldn’t mobilise 30% of Ukrainian Army at this point.
>>489028002>PeePeePeeLmao.
>>489032271Russians aren’t buying stuff in dollars.
>>489031915PPP is rubbish as well.Norway is 49 and Nigeria is 27.You think Niggers have it better than Norwegians?
>>489032392What does that even mean? Australia is similar for example. Resource extraction is serious business bro. All that oil and metals and what not isn’t magically spawning on ships or in pipelines carrying it to some market.
>>489032420No, but I think Norway is an irrelevant vassal state of liberal hippies that jumps when Washington tells them to, and Nigeria is a serious power in Africa.
>>489032592I ll give you that
>>489031939China >>>> AmericaIdgaf about Trump and Harris, they are both zoggers (Trump is a total shabbos goy)America is ruled by JewsAnything America does Jews did it
>>489032262>International dollars are only used as an example, you could use any currency instead of it. And they are not actual dollars btw.yeah exactly, they're not an absolute measure of value>But when you need to compare the international economies strength you use nominal.who told you that
>>489032411Yes, they are.. they're using Bitcoin which is basically USD.
>>489032065Because beating Russia in a week doesn't kill a million Russian men, injure millions more, destroy most of their equipment and leave the people bitter at their leadership.NATO has slowly ramped up the weapons delivered as more Ukrainians died to counter the loss of manpower and continue the war to kill and destroy as much as possible. NATO wants to damage Russia not end the war.
>>489032631A major problem with GDP is that Western economies are horifically overvalued.
>>489032420Norway is kind of a shithole, yeah
>>489032411Avoiding the question like a russian. You know you don't have an answer.
>>489032855Does this make your pp tingle?
>>489032855How am I avoiding the question retard? I gave you the answer. And I’m not Russian.
>>489032038>Only in the sense they aren’t dying, in the sense of everything else they are. Ukrainian Army is at this point fully supplied and paid by NATO.And the people in the streets of NATO nations are turning in their old pots and pans to make more weapons. Food is rationed and every working age man is doing double shifts in munitions plants to supply the war.
>>489032686What is the world's reserve currency?What is the petrodollar? What is the Bretton Woods Agreement?The game is rigged and USA will always be number 1, unless you change who has rigged the game and that would mean WW3.What has been established through war can only change through war.
>>489032814>a millionPhahahaha, so far we lost less than 100k while killing more than 1,5milliuon of mognoloid orcs babies in return. Subhumans meat wavers have no chance versus high tech bomb spam. Also go back, pidarokrainec.
>>489032189If we're playing that game then Vietnam beat America, Australia, South Korea, France and other assorted Southeast Asian countries at the same time.Talk about embarrassing.>>489032814>look goy I could destroy you easily>I just choose not to because you're already losing>source?>trust me goy, why would I lie to you?
>>489030554Their economy has improved even more since the news OP posted actually.
>>489033454>>look goy I could destroy you easily>>I just choose not to because you're already losing>>source?>>trust me goy, why would I lie to you?How much clearer can I make 'The plan is extending the war to do more damage not to end the conflict'?
>>489030353>a $1 cappucino prepared inTurkey is a less valuable good than a $5 McDonalds coffee in SwitzerlandNo. Nominal is for overtaxed expensive countries trying to feel even more rich than they actually are.
>>489028002>I thought sanctions were safe and effective?what are you asking?
>>489032375NK provides troops, Iran provides drone. Ukraine is producing their own shells and drones.You're a liar and have already been outed as the chug tranny you are.
Based Putin! Hail glorious mother Russia!> bye bye Europoors with your fag agenda...
>>489033881Does one Turkish Drachmas buy 5 times more oil than a Swish Nazi gold coin?
>>489032944You did not answer what the difference nor why you think PPP is a better indicator of wealth. Especially when pointed out above Norway is below Nigeria in PPP.
>>489030708>outproducing entire NATO by a big marginThat's not true. They are making a shitload of shells which is good for them, but they are way behind the west in shit larger and more advanced technology.
>>489033767What damage would that be?Russia is doing better than the west currently despite the kiked sanctions.Just look at your frozen shithole of a country, flooded with jeets, homeless people, drug addicts, anemic economy, and a literal faggot as your PM.Tell me with a straight face you're doing fine and Russia is not
>>489033454EU / NATO / West are retarded kikes and think they can just throw chequebooks at problems. It takes a decade if not more to build a war industry out of scratch, It needs steel, machinery, heavy industry, lots of energy, not this "green industry" and "carbon neutral" shit. They had ten years for a wakeup call since 2014, but even since 2022 nothing is happening, just kvetching how they "intend to" and "may" increase shell production, but zero actual production. No amount of narrative can replace materiel.Its just the very basics of materiel, bullets, shells, boots, trucks. The EU produces none of it on its own, its all Chinese precursors assembled together. You cannot maintain a strategic supply chain like that. It just begs to be cut. The leftists have zero mindset for perseverance or self-sustainability and think just control of the media to make the bad thoughts go away is enough.This is just the least of the problems, seeing how they lack the population to either work in the factories or get drafted. The competence crisis is real, zoomers can't fight for globohomo and all the migrants, women, troons and other assorted dregs they were trying to promote in their armies in expense of white men won't.And now with their economies falling, dependent on the oil and gas they are intending to fight, JUST after they shut down their nuclear reactors they don't even have the money to fight. No arms, no men, no cash. So what the fuck these larpers could even do?
>>489028002GDP = private consumptiongross private investmentgovernment investmentgovernment spending(exports – imports)4 out of those 5 are literally just how much money you are spending. And turns out wars are expensive.
>>489034376>Russia is doing better than the west currently despite the kiked sanctions.How man NATO soldiers have died? A few hundred, maybe low thousands?Well if that's losing I wish Russia more luck and to keep doing better.
>>489034376>Russia is doing better than the west currently despite the kiked sanctions.It's really not though. It's inflation rate is growing at 4x the rate of each and every NATO country.
>>489029904Nominally, Nvidia's share price is worth more than the entire Chinese stock market, which can't possibly be true. It is only true in terms of perceived value, like some useless antique or Pokémon card, that goes for millions at auction.Hence, PPP is much more realistic.Also, the GDP of china overtook the USA roughly back in 2015.
>>489029402Nigger, all our liquidity from 2019 till now halfed in value.People that dont know it live paycheck to paycheck.
>>489031000>When did China surpass USA?When the glowniggers started spamming /pol withanti Chyna propaganda.Couple years back 2015 ? i think. If you want a serious progression check cement production china builds more shit than the whole world x3 or something crazy.
>>489033212what does that have to do with anything, you said it yourself it's not the currency it's what it can buy and arbitrary currency will buy you more in china than overpriced america, that goes for individuals, i goes for governments, it goes for everything.>The game is riggedsure>USA will always be number 1the us have been losing the plot for 30 years, that's why their trying to find refuge in protectionism after being decades of being obnoxious free trade faggots
>>489034893It's debt to gdp is 15%
>>489035139GDP and stock value are completely different things, you retarded nigger
>>489028740If america bans porn and Indians, American economy is half of India
>>489034376When are you moving to russia since their economy is so much better?
>>489035510I said it's not the currency that matters for PPP not GDP.For GDP it absolutely matters that's why USA is number one, because the dollar is the world's reserve currency and the petrodollar.China will always be number 2 because of that and if they try to become number 1 that means WW3.
>>489038115currencies are not an absolute measure of value, accept this factunderstand that money is a fiction, it doesn't matter how much dollars america can print it won't magically result in extra production, yes they've been riding the dollar for nearly a century, but again there's nothing magical about this piece of paper. Guess what happens when china turn around and say "you see these 10 trillion $ here? we want o buy everything you have"
