What is the White man's take on the Crimean War? I'm sure it was probably the Jews, but why tf were the Anglos there in the first place?Walk me through it quickly, /pol/.
>>489028950Just anglos being anglos. Also the beginning of the end for the white race
>>489028950I've never really thought about it desu, I just enjoy eating sour cream out of the tub with my fingers lol. I'm a bit crazy like that :P
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>>489029270The mighty roar of the Russian cum
>>489029323lel
>>489029270YOU'LL TAKE MY LIFE BUT I'LL TAKE YOURS TOO
>>489029397YOU LYNCH A TRANNY AND I'LL LYNCH A POO
>>489028950rich men playing toy soldiers with real lives
>>489028950Russians were going to destroy the Turks and get Constantinople for christianity. The eternal Jewish Anglo stopped them due to "balance of power"
>>489029561AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE NEXT VAXXIE HEART ATTACK
>>489029685And the Greek comes through.I knew it was the jews!
>>489029848That's not the lyrics man
>>489029561JEW, anonYou lynch a tranny and I'll lynch a JEW.
>>489028950Ask Vicky anon.
>>489028950btw all conflicts are filthy rat jew bankers/ globalists.
>>489028950helping Turkey
>>489028950Because less empires means less competition.The British always acted on the preemptive basis. They wanted to control the Mediterranean. Their planning calculations showed them that if Russia took a footing in the region through conquering the Ottoman land, then they'll have to compete with Russia there and possibly lose. Same reason they formulated the so-called Great Game, because they were afraid that Russia annexing nomadic peoples in Central Asia means war between Russia and the British empire over India and Persia is ultimately inevitable.That's the same reason Greater Bulgaria was denied by Bismark later on to placate the Brits (Russian puppet having access to Mediterranean is unacceptable), which caused Russia to seethe about this, which (on top of the cold neutrality of Austria during the Crimean war and a conflict of interests between Russia and A-H in the Balkans) led to severance of the League of Three Emperors and a loss of faith in this alliance.The Ottomans were considered a dead man walking, so larping as if you care for their interests to act against your rivals is a natural decision and why the Crimean war took place the way it did.
>>489028950It was the first case of the West siding with evil to protect their economy.
we should have stayed out of it let the russians deal with the turks but no good old england had to keep the life-support system on
>>489030905there was a defensive part too, mediterrenean to us was Crimea - Cyprus - Malta - Gibraltar - Britain. lose the first four and the last one is wide open for ships
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>>489030839This is amazing, anon.>anglos backing muslims against christians.Every. Single. Time.
>>489032326>there was a defensive part tooNaturally. I just believe if it was only a matter of trade and defense lines vulnerabilities, then the tensions could be worked out through diplomatic means alone. Maybe I'm wrong.
>>489030905>>489032326Thanks!Now kiss....
>>489030905>>489032326Some good answers for a change, nice job anons.
>>489032397>>489032326>mediterrenean to us was Crimea - Cyprus - Malta - Gibraltar - Britain>posts map captioned "med">without Crimea, Cyprus or Britain
>>489028950Fearmongering over muh India.British India was the worst thing to happen to the UK.
>>489034617it was just a map showing all the ship routes and how important they were, Gibraltar and Malta are on there. planes and air force did not exist yet and certainly not space warfare.
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>>489028950>generalizing all history as Jewish subversionThis is your brain on /pol/
>>489035537> just a map showing all the ship routes and how important they wereCan't help but notice are no ship routes to Crimea on the map of "all the ship routes"
>>489028950Whites killing whites to save Muslims
>>489035998because it's a ship route from today, people still take cruises following the same routes. it doesn't go to Crimea anymore unfortunately, but if you in a boat it's not far or hard to reach at all and that's what the Crimean war was about.
>>489029735YOU'D BETTER TROON, THERE'S NO TURNING B-ACK!
>>489036132>because it's a ship route from today,Why'd you post a today's map when discussing events of 150 years ago?>. it doesn't go to Crimea anymore unfortunately,When did they and for what purpose?>it's not far or hard to reach at all Murmansk, or, say, Tromso, even, isn't far or hard to reach from England either, don't see limeys sailing there often though. Maybe they can't handle the cold.
>>489031588France and Britain had been Ottoman allies for centuries.
>>489036409to give a visual guide of how our side would have viewed the conflict and the med.during the Russian empire Crimea was a popular destination, how do you think all the Odessan jews emigrated to USA? it says right there highlighted "Russia" and "Odessa", I can't read the other names. many of them would dock beforehand in England or elsewhere in Europe and get off. Soviets are the ones who closed it off and it's happening again. Crimea is also a warm water port so you can sail to it any time of the year. in the end it was mostly a Turkey - Russia war, we just helped Turkey and I'm explaining why we would even bother doing that.
>>489036409britanon is retarded, but rostov on don was the major freight port because of its place on the river. Why the soviets built the volga-don canal.
>>489037658>during the Russian empire Crimea was a popular destination,And?> how do you think all the Odessan jews emigrated to USA?If they emigrated from Odessa then it was their point of origin, not destination.> it says right there highlighted "Russia" and "Odessa",Truly fascinating.>many of them would dock beforehand in England or elsewhere in Europe and get off.So?>Soviets are the ones who closed it offSounds like the brits should've declared war on them then. But then again they became a literallywho on the world stage by then, I guess.> many of them would dock beforehand in England or elsewhere in Europe and get off.And?>Crimea is also a warm water port so you can sail to it any time of the year.I thought you said you can't anymore lmao.What about sailing there in 1915? Oh that's right, their fellow *nglos went there and got mowed down on the shores of Gallipoli, the very shores that would've welcomed them instead had *nglos not been so hell-bent on preventing their fellow Christians from liberating (multiple times too). Unlucky.> mostly a Turkey - Russia warWell, no, Brits&French did the heavy lifting. And the wars before and after that one show, Turks were pushovers at the time.> I'm explaining why we would even bother doing that.So that jews from Odessa could disembark in London, got it.
>>489036409>MurmanskThe port at murmansk wasn't built until ww1
>>489038370Yeah sea and river routes were invaluable before the age of steam at the very least, but the whole argument obviously doesn't hold up to any criticism because a) ports can be closed without declaring a war (as he'd demonstrated with the Soviets)b) going to war with a nation definitely shuts their ports to you for its duration and ruins their relation with youc) no evidence of ports being closed to British vessels before they declared war has been provided.
>>489038777Wasn't going to go in detail about all the pomor villages along the coast, afaik most of them are centuries old, they'd be up for trading whatever goods they produced from hunting and whaling. Can't say how populated those are but since the "map showing all the important routes" posted above lists Portovenere (population 3700 in 1861 and 3200 today, BUSTLING) the bar isn't exactly high.Bit further east one should find Arkhangelsk, that one's definitely older.
>>489029685>The eternal Jewish Anglo stopped them due to "balance of power"This, so much this, fucking Anglos scum siding with the Turk rat Muslim as always
>>489038937Yeah, I'm not going to pick through britanons arguments because they are retarded and that would be unpleasant.The conventional argument is that crimea was part of the great game and also part of the British naval hegemony. Crimea controls rostov directly and can be used to check the black sea fleet in odessa. The black sea fleet was the bulk of russian naval power, see: the poor performance of the baltic fleet in the russo-japanese war.If you look at how this played out in ww1, the russian fleet in the black sea and the British fleets in the adreadtics effectively blockaded Constantinople. We can imagine that a similar thing could have happened to Russia if the brits gained a foothold in the black sea. >ArkhangelskIt's a seasonal port. pic rel, one of the nuclear ice breakers required to keep it open.>they'd be up for trading whatever goods they produced from hunting and whalingWhich is fuck all in value
>>489040022>The conventional argumentThat's a lie, the real reason was always the same, the eternal Anglo hating Europeans as always and loving shitskins Turk rat nation
>>489040022>adreadtics I mean the agean sea. I don't know why I thought Adriatic and then mangled the name with the Dardenelles
>>489040208Excuse me for disregarding the opinion of a guy whose people spent 300 years happily slurping down turkish cock in a harem before the russians came in and liberated you.
>>489035919Is it wrong, tho?
>>489040613And that's thanks to the Anglo and the french who literally attacked the Habsburgs when they tried to liberate everything from Vienna to Constantinopole.But it's ok, I can see your flag and know your kind hates Europe the most
>>489041509Romanians was kangz and sheet, if the white man wouldn't be keeping dem down
>>489028950pre-ww2 wars were all just power-checks
>>489040022>crimea was part of the great gameOh absolutely.>the russian fleet in the black sea and the British fleets in the adreadtics effectively blockaded ConstantinopleThat's one way of looking at it, but from the Russian perspective the much worse part was that it was the Turks who bottled up the Black sea fleet and blocked an important supply route from their Entente allies — supplies they needed and had paid for. To give an example, there was a major order on airplane parts from UK that hadn't arrived because of shipping issues following the war breaking out, that I remember of. >if the brits gained a foothold in the black sea. I don't see a scenario where they'd manage that for longer than one campaign, the supply lines wouldn't allow for that. Took them tremendous effort in a 3v1 to make some progress in the peninsula, — and not on the side where Rostov-on-Don is either. The emperor dying (and not having been a technocrat in his life either, unlike his successors) helped with that too.In fact, I suppose you can draw parallels with the current ongoing war, where their objective isn't to gain territory but to bleed their opponent out. It's just now they can do without putting boots on the ground so to say. During the Crimean war, they kind of succeeded and it took Russian Empire some time to recover. I also like how both sides have walked away with some beautiful stories of valor to tell.>>489040208One doesn't necessarily exclude the other. Can't comment on the mudslime-love but their ruling class lacking morals or integrity is a given. Was probably the norm. They'd side with anyone if that meant taking whomever they perceived a potential rival down a noth. As part of the great game in the Central Asia, so did the Russians (though they did often impose values on the locals, e.g. banning bacha bazi; dunno if the Brits bothered). Brits knowing when to fold and when to hold is also how they came to be ahead of other nations in the Indies too.
>>489028950>but why tf were the Anglos there in the first place?How many centuries has it been true that "anglos" were really just cryptojews? 3, 4?
>>489040022>whaling>Which is fuck all in valueWhaling was quite profitable in 19th century, British whalers went literally went as far as the Pacific in order to whale, as seen in the boats movie. Ice can be an issue, but the sea along Kola's shore doesn't freeze in winter.
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>>489028950nobody without a degree in history knows the first thing about it, try asking the average person you'll be met with a blank stare
