Hello, /pol/. I want to be informed about Fascism and National Socialism and their fundamental tenets, but I'm not entirely sure where and how to learn since the term has been so politically weaponized and just about everywhere I look is trying to push its own narrative on the subject. So what exactly is Fascism? Is National Socialism actually socialist? Were the Nazis socialists? I want to hear the plain and unvarnished truth.
Fascism is when we lose an election.
Fascism is the rejection of capitalism and communism, a return to the corporatist mode of organization popular in the middle ages (corporatism has nothing to do with private ownership/modern corporations) where everyone is organized into public bodies through which they are represented. There's a reason the capitalists literally dismantled medieval corporatism and replaced it with private ownership, because collective power that could fix wages, protect labor (ie limit working hours, have age limits, etc), and so on was an impediment to capitalist profits.Communists seethe at this definition because it rejects marxism, so they cope by saying that "fascism is capitalism" (this claim is communist propaganda made up by Georgi Dimitrov)
National socialism is when the goyim finally have enough of Jew tricks and unify the left and right.
>>489033832How exactly is the state-controlled economy of Fascism (Socialism?) fundamentally different from Communism?
>>489033691>what exactly is FascismNobody actually knows. At the end of the day it's probably just an aesthetic along with some form of nationalism and usually incorporates militarism in unrelated aspects of society. I guess Mussolini's Italy would be THE fascist country. But when you break it down most of the defining features are aesthetic.
Fascism is the alignment of government with corporations. b There's also an emphasis on strength, speed, efficiency and technology. There's an intolerance for uncleanliness, racial or otherwise and weakness. There's also totalitarianism. So yes, the US is facsist.
>>489036639>emphasis on strength, speed, efficiency and technology>an intolerance for uncleanliness>and weakness>the US is facsist.
>le corporatism memename the corporations that took over the government in fascist italy or so called fascist germany
>>489038561You haven't travelled much have you
>>489033691It's mainly the economic policy of dirigisme. A dirigiste economy that is also usually Corporatist(not to be confused with Corporatocracy.) Some people, like Khan Academy have also defined it as having a sense of cultural supremacy(but not necessarily racial supremacy.) Hitler used economic Fascist policies for the 3rd Reich. Corporatism is a third position that is contrasted with capitalism and socialism but it is an economic system that permits private enterprise, like capitalism, but unlike socialism. Less intelligent leftwing socialists and communists usually accuse Fascists, National Socialists who use private enterprise Corporatism(Hitlerism, as opposed to Strasserism or National Bolshevism,) and Mussolini of being capitalists because of this, but they're really not. It's a third position economic system.
>>489034147It requires a firm rejection of the principle formulated by Marxism, which summarizes the entire subversion at work today: The economy is our destiny. We must declare in an uncompromising way that in a normal civilization the economy and economic interests—understood as the satisfaction of material needs and their more or less artificial appendices—have always played, and always will play, a subordinated function. We must also uphold that beyond the economic sphere an order of higher political, spiritual, and heroic values has to emerge, an order that neither knows nor tolerates merely economic classes and does not know the division between "capitalists" and "proletarians"; an order solely in terms of which are to be defined the things worth living and dying for.Thus, the true antithesis is not between capitalism and Marxism, but between a system in which the economy rules supreme (no matter in what form) and a system in which the economy is subordinated to extra-economic factors, within a wider and more complete order, such as to bestow a deep meaning upon human life and foster the development of its highest possibilities. This is the premise for a true restorative reaction, beyond "Left" and "Right," beyond capitalism's abuses and Marxist subversion. The necessary conditions are an inner detoxification, a becoming "normal" again ("normal" in the higher meaning of the term), and a renewed capability to differentiate between base and noble interests. No intervention from the outside can help; any external action at best might accompany this process.
>>489034147Under Fascism you can still own private property, private businesses, private enterprise ect. But if the state deems fit it can intervene in the economy, usually only if it needs to. Such as during war time, if the state needs more hammers produced as opposed to screw drivers, the state can intervene and order the manufacturers to produce more hammers. This is the core definition of dirigisme. But usually the state doesn't need to do this unless there is war time or if the state wants to intervene to try and save the economy or something. With a Fascist constitution one could regulate the power the state has to intervene in the economic process. But if the rule is an autocracy, monarchy, or aristocracy, then perhaps the state or ruling party has more power and isn't regulated as much if at all.
>>489040310The US is extremely inefficient, dirty, and filled with weak people in positions of power. You faggots just want it both ways.
>>489033691>So what exactly is Fascism?Fascism is a lifestyle doctrine.You either cannot believe in any aka nihilist or you strongly believe in one aka fascist.
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>>489033691>Mein Kampf audiobook (excellent quality)https://odysee.com/@truthte11er2.0:d/Mein-Kampf-Audiobook:6>The International Jew audiobookhttps://odysee.com/@FLOOD:3/tij-01-01:f?lid=c29c26b51655652a436d5ff323a79b681d72f2da>George Lincoln Rockwell @ Brown Universityhttps://odysee.com/George-Lincoln-Rockwell---Brown-University-(1966):3>Kevin MacDonald : Deciphering Jewish Intellectual Movementshttps://odysee.com/@swprs:3/jewish-intellectual-movements-kevin-macdonald-flashpoint-2008:6
>>489033691The Nazis nationalized specific segments of the economy like private schools and unions while leaving others untouched. They were socialists, but the term usually carries the connotations of communism because of our Cold War propaganda. If you think about it on a left-right political spectrum they would be considered centrists.
>>489033691>Were the Nazis socialists?i think they were trying to 'take back' the word and make it socialism = for the good of the people.not just communism lite
>>489033691Mussolini said it is most fundamentally characterized by the merger of state and corporate power.
>>489041464Isn't that sort of like modern China?
>>489044934It is, the term is 'Dengism' based off the autocratic mixed economy model pioneered by Deng Xiaoping
>>489033691>FascismThe subordination of the individual to their collective, the eponymous Fasces, and the promotion of collective success over individual rights.>SocialismThe facilitation and prioritization of Symbiotism in a socioeconomic order; Socialism follows from Symbiotism just as Nationalism follows from Patriotism.>National SocialismThe marriage of Nationalism and Socialism as defined above, although the term's association with the NSDAP connotes a variant that is Fascist and Non-Communist.>what about the whole "collective ownership" thingThat's Communism.
>>489033691Fascism is really just a political and economic system based on corporations as organs of state power. National Socialism by contrast is a worldview in an of itself. You could say it tries to perfect man racially using fascist methods of rule.
>>489044934Yes and they even place emphasis on a racial identity. 'Communists' adopting NatSoc in order to function is beautifully ironic.
