How would you counter salami slicing tactics by a numerically superior enemy with nuclear weapons? By this I mean: the enemy keeps claiming small chunks (salami slices) of territory from regions you consider your sphere of influence. Every time you threaten a decisive response, the enemy threatens nukes. Do you nuke Moscow for Donetsk? No. Do you do it for Georgia? Do you do it for the Baltics? Do you do it for Poland? Or for London?At which point does it make sense strategically?
>>489040861Ukraine has nothing to do with nato nor is it in some 'sphere of influence' so there's no """salami slicing""" going on. should the russians even set one foot in nato they will be annihilated immediately
>>489040861Get the fack away from territory that isnt yours. This war is in Ukraine, not France. YOU are the reason for this war and made everything to dismiss any peaceful solution.
>>489041452>should the russians even set one foot in nato they will be annihilated immediatelythis is way more complicated than you make it out to be. What if a pro-Russian """"citizens' movement""" like the one in Donbas takes over Latvia for example and requests that it leaves NATO? Russians make up at least 25% of the country
>>489041562>YOU are the reason for this warshit, I'm so sorry guys, my bad
>>489041592democratically elected movement changes government policy -> Must take the Lviolent (russian backed) rebellion -> bomb them to bits, if russians send "peacekeepers" or whatever then they also get bombed to bits. then it's a matter of playing the escalation ladder until someone backs down. If Nato doesn't threathen Nukes even for some village in the middle of nowhere then Nato loses its credibility.
>>489042161I understand this completely from a strategic point of view. But if you're a politician in America and you try to explain to 330 million Americans that their lives are now in mortal danger because you absolutely need to maintain posture halfway across the world, and probably 95% of those people will be vehemently against this and probably try to overthrow you? That decision becomes way more complex
>>489042361shouldn't have made such promises if you do not intend to keep them
>>489042608of course, you can say the same about Britain promising to defend Poland before WW2. But promises like this ARE broken and it's valuable to explore what happens next