They say we “need” immigrants for the economy and whatnot, but how did our ancestors do just fine without them? It wasn’t until the 60s that western nations started flooding their countries with the third world, until that point, the vast majority of immigrants were of european descent. Our lives have only gotten worse, literally every year is worse than the last, our infrastructure is falling apart, everyone is getting poorer, our countries are losing their culture, the list goes on and on and on. They say jobs aren’t being filled, yet every white person I know can’t find a job no matter how hard they try. Every country is respected for their people and their culture except white countries. When we visit China, we go to respect their people and their culture, the same with any other country. Except this rule doesnt apply to literally any white country. Our culture is being destroyed and our people are being replaced. Why? Genuinely. What the fuck is the endgame? And why do we “need” these foreign invaders. None of makes sense, and the lie falls apart the moment you start observing the obvious. Do these fools in power not realize the irreversible damage they’re inflicting? or do they just not care about their grandchildren and legacy? The worst places of China are unironically cleaner than the “normal” parts of Western countries at this point. The middle class is dead. Not him ever changes. What more is it going to fucking take?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_U0wQPMwvVc&pp=ygUZYmFsZCBhbmQgYmFua3J1cHQgZW5nbGFuZA%3D%3D
wage suppression
>>489040919Companies will always desire to maximize their profits and minimize their expenses. Migrants are simply willing to work the same jobs for less than their native born counterparts. All the woke programming is really just a guise for a cynical financial calculation. The rich aren't on your side lol
Because it's not about nor was it ever about the economy. Third world immigrants are actually a direct burden on our economy. The real goal is humiliation and destruction. The Jews will not stop until White people suffer the same pain they suffered for centuries.
>>489040919People blames Biden for grocery prices. Immigrant labor is cheap and they take jobs most don't want because most citizens graduate high-school and want better work.
>>489040919>the lie falls apart the moment you start observing the obvious.Remember who invented the field of PR, and you'll have your answer.>The worst places of China are unironically cleaner than the “normal” parts of Western countries at this point.No need to exaggerate.
>>489041047>>489041057Clear, succinct explanations of reality; people acting in their own self interest>>489041183Schizo rambling that requires extensive leaps in logic to comprehend
>>489041312If what I'm saying is schizoid rambling, why have Jews been the core organizers and supporters of mass migration into Western Nations? Why do they have so many non-profits actively bringing them to Europe and NA en masse?
>>489041057So you're saying, mass immigration has always been funded by capitalists to benefit capitalist interests yet somehow it's blamed on socialists?
>>489041918I wonder who "the rich" actually are.
>>489041708fuck off you're a literal retard, read the post above yours if you want to understand the world better, or keep sucking your own cock in your bubble of retardation
>>489041183Jewish pain consists of being psycho assholes until everyone else gets sick of it and kicks you out, then you cry and play the victim until the next retard takes you in and you repeat the assholism.
>>489040919Modern businesses believe in the fairy tale that is infinite growth. They believe the line can always go up more and therefore it must always go up to fulfill their legally binding mandate to maximize profit for shareholders.You cannot infinitely increase share value without an infinite supply of cheap labor, and native citizens theoretically keep getting higher standards of living (and therefore higher standards of pay and workplace treatment) as the line goes up. They also don't increase the population as much, which means the addressable market doesn't expand infinitely to drive infinite growth with just natural births of citizens.Infinite growth is a retarded concept that hurts us in many ways. Great businesses with great products that everyone likes and might even be culturally significant are gutted because they're "only" profitable and not infinitely more profitable year over year. And when a chainsaw CEO comes in and boosts share prices at the expense of long term viability so the company can be eaten by a larger conglomerate, he's celebrated as a business savior and rewarded with a multi-million dollar golden parachute and fast track to CEO the next vulnerable company because the shareholders were able to dump their stock at a high price just before it goes to shit under a new owner that only cares about stock price. It's fucked.
>>489041918For the most part. Many socialists do unironically support mass migration, but usually only in terms of weakening their host country to point where the majority are primed for revolution. Capitalists, on the other hand, don't give a shit about the strength/weakness of a country they see in terms of economic zones anyway.
>>489042007Dumbass newfag, I understand history and the world better than you ever could. You don't even know the history of International Finance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mII9NZ8MMVM
>>489041708When I said that your rambling requires extensive leaps of logic to comprehend, and you say "why have Jews been the core organizers and supporters of mass migration into Western Nations?", that is exactly the type of leap of logic that I am talking about.It is a leap of logic of tremendous proportions, if what you say is even true, that Jews supporting immigration is because "they want White people to suffer the same pain they suffered for centuries".
>>489042270you don't know shit youtube watching faggot
>>489040919same canadian pajeet been spamming those threads all day longyou are getting deported pajeet. stop coping
>>489041918Yes.
>>489040919to grow more useless bureaucracy so they're "documented" by potheads and crackbabies that think they're bureaucrats
>>489040919we don't need them, blackrock does, they need them because they can flood labor markets and push down wages and push up rent
>>489041981The ones with the most money. It doesn't matter what ethnicity they are, there are policy solutions to keep them in check. If you think jewish behavior is an issue, you can regulate and discourage it but that keeps getting called socialism and communism and opposed by people who say they oppose jews. What a funny situation.
>>489040919>again?again?
>>489042205The problem with this logic is that there are many ways to weaken a country and prime it for revolution. Or specifically, there's many way to pour fuel on the fire of class resentment by making the material conditions of the workers even worse than they already are. And yet, the Western socialists who support mass immigration will also support unions, which actually help to quell the flames of revolution. So if their plan is left-win accelerationism, they're not exactly doing a good job of it, are they?And it is only Western socialists that want this by the way. These the students of Trotsky, not the students of Stalin. In the end of the day, their real aim (whether they realise it or not) is actually to prevent a revolution. And what better way to do so that to import a million gajillion shitskins to compete with the native working class for resources and then act as if they're supposed to get along with eachother despite that? Literal divide and conquer. Shit, it's the reason big corporations or so concerned with "diversity" in their workforce. It stops them from banding together to demand better wages and working conditions because none of them actually trust eachtoher. This is what Amazon does in their warehouses. There's a very good reason Stalin had Trotsky killed, and it's not just because he was a kike.
>>489040919>kills Whites>makes jewish rental apartments rent higher>makes wages lower>humiliation
>>489042641yeah those people are so confused
>>489040919We don't need more ignorant, illiterate, violent barbarians into the West, we need more automation. Automation will cure the staffing problems over time.
>>489042368Yeah nice argument, buddy. You know Jews hate Italians more than any other race? Even more than the Germans.>>489042349No it isn't, it directly supports what I said in my first post. Jews control finance in the West, and they have for a long time. The negative effects of importing millions upon millions of non-whites clearly outweighs any perceived benefit. It's always been about hatred.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G45WthPTo24>>489042641I don't know why /pol/ put their heads in the sand. I think most of you have come here in recent years, and because there are very few people aware of the JQ left, you newfags are left in the dark because no one has had the time to explain the situation, nor do you have the attention spans to take the information in like we did. Western problems are a direct result of the kikes.
>>489040919Refugees welcome!Diversity instead of churches.
>>489040919Late stage Capitalistic economic system that requires infinite growth to sustain itself.
Daily reminded to not give your money to foreign businesses, no kebab, no takeaway, no anything. No buying from them on eBay, Amazon etc, look up their trading name, if it's ran by pakis, don't give them your money, remove kebab!https://youtu.be/PAYkRnHi1Zo?si=0V6PXdPPzvPYp55i
>>489043288>The negative effects of importing millions upon millions of non-whites clearly outweighs any perceived benefit. >It's always been about hatred.Leap of logic. You started from the conclusion that Jews hate Whites, and you tried looking for all the arguments that support your pre-determined world-view, instead of letting the world itself inform your views.
>>489043288>Western problems are a direct result of the kikes.Because you can agree with that statement and still support regulatory policy that makes kikery illegal/harder to pull off. You have a planet of jeet, chink, kike, and self serving white people and focusing on JQ isn't as effective as acknowledging it and turning the system toxic to them and anyone else who is also here to profit off you.
>>489043585>buy from local businesses who import exactly the same shit from Bangladesh anyway I mean I like your sentiment but if you live in a (((modern service economy))) all your money is going to foreigners eventually
>>489040919You misunderstand, Leaf. We don't need inmigrants; (((we))) need immigrants.
>>489043710>>489043288I just want to clarify, I'm not saying you shouldn't hate the Jews, it's just that if you want things to get better for you, you have to stop reflexively blaming them for everything and start looking for who is the actual PERSON responsible.You keep saying "The Jews" but Lil Sheisty and BLP Kosher don't run the fucking banks dude, Soros does.
>>489043710>>489044074They head organizations that carry tremendous amounts of influence in the West, as well as financial institutions. They also network and share resources with one another through funding, personnel, and direct system influence. To uproot them you would need a full scale revolution. I don't know why you're being a pain the ass with the "Leaps of logic" bullshit, what I'm saying is true.>>489043790Oh yeah you're totally going to stop them using the system that they have control over lmao.
>>489041047Nah. The immigrants don't work. The real reason is white genocide because the Jews want our birthright. They want what was promised to us.
>>489040919>Why do we “need” immigrants again?So jews can feel "safer"
>>489041183>The Jews will not stop until White people suffer the same pain they suffered for centuries.Being privileged and financially well off?
>>489040919If we didn’t have millions of immigrants how could we pay people slave wages while continually increasing the cost of living?
>>489044739I am being a pain in the ass, I am asking you to formulate your ideas in a way that others who don't agree with you can accept.Saying "it's the Jews" doesn't make someone believe you, you have to convince them you're right in the first place. Your problem is you start every argument from the conclusion, and that's just not how you win people over.
>>489045276>>489044739Basically I'm telling you that if you just made it ambiguous who was responsible, and people naturally think "it's the Jews", then it'd be a lot more effective than just saying it out loud.You catch more flies with honey than vinegar
>>489040919if you really don't know and you really want to know, the answer is because we're ruled by jews who hate us and recognize the threat we pose. flooding our nations with foreigners is how the jews deal with that threat in the short and long term. in the short term there's demoralization and lots of distractions to camouflage the jews themselves, in the long term, just as the dangerous and feral wolf was selectively bred by a master species into the loveable cuddly golden retriever, poodle or Chihuahua, the jews intend to breed Aryan Man down into a servile domesticated beast known as the White Man, with a high enough IQ to serve in complex economies, but with no self respect or will to power. This is why I hate jews and recognize that there can be no other outcome than either totally eradicating the jews, or falling to eternal slavery. For presenting that threat to my children, I will always hate them and never seek accomodation with them.
>>489040919We needed immigrants in colonial times. We don't now. All they do is suppress wages.
>>489044739If that's the case than target those who are controlling that system due to that control, due to the system just being used to protect them. Again, naming and going after specific people with policy actually gets you momentum, actually helps people understand and get on board. If not it's just "schizo retard falls for protocols of zion meme bullshit" and you're not gaining traction, you're just helping (((them))) maintain power by proving criticism of them isn't based on anything they're actually doing, you don't even know the system or policy, you're just basing your action on theory.
>>489040919I believe it's several elements at work at once.Fist you have the "third world poverty arbitrage" that makes your business more profitable, because that pittance you pay your workers is still a fortune in their home country. Basically, the companies doing this abuse the migrant's dream of building wealth at home and both parties kinda know that this exchange is temporary.The second issue is overpopulation and the age-old issue of dealing with excess men. The third world (including Streetshitistan, ofc) can defer their need to keep their populations at carrying capacity (a politically completely unpopular approach) and just pretend to be liberal as the kikes import their surplus men as demographic weapons into the west. All while kike organizations take our taxpayer money to help these shitholes produce more excess men via "development help".The third issue is of our own making and it's essentially a Gramscian approach to key roles in western societies. For the left, it is politically more opportune to have some mystery meat become a mayor than someone who has blood and soil ties to the town because the shitskin or nigger will have nothing that roots him to his new homecountry, thus making him simply a preferable puppet. Dependent as well as he'd be completely lost without political parties lifting him into positions of power.Lastly, eternal growth is not a myth, it's baked into our banking system that your company has to outpace inflation and interest payments to stay afloat. Ask any global employer if European wages are worth paying and he'll shake his head. Even worse if the employee is 40+ and can expect his experience priced in. Basically, the west has created a system where the state forces the company to pay the worker as much as possible so they, in turn, can fleece that worker for every cent of taxes - all to maintain the social systems, and it's no longer sustainable - so they need worthless, no-skill migrants to keep the shitshow going.
>>489042349>if what you say is even trueFuck off
>>489040919The real redpill is developing countries that have factories and manufacture physical goods are better than meme finance based economies. They are downgrading us so they can bring the factories back
>>489040919In the past people didn't believe in (((economy)))
>>489046320Holy fucking misandry batman.You realize development slows population growth, right? No, of course you don't, because you don't care about truth.
>>489040919The real reason why Britain is dying is because we do not lead the world in innovations any more. There’s no new eureka—8th wonder of the world here, and nobody’s coming up with it. Our economy has reduced to reinventing the wheels with a bit more polish; and then importing the polish to do it for us because we’re lazy and cheap. And with all the red tape we have, there’s no space for innovation or daring pioneers, and even if there were, they wouldn’t be rewarded anywhere near adequately for their work and effort here. More over, China would simply steal it and undercut us and our leaders would allow those cheap imports in.Instead, the greatest part of our economic discussion takes place by and between people who are interested in talking about low productivity without themselves actually being instrumental to said productivity or inventing something new. It’s literally that meme of one guy digging a hole and 7-8 supervisors standing around watching him; that’s the UK economy in a nutshell. We as a nation have rested on our laurels far beyond the point of return, and our only way forward—not out—is to transform our nation into a glorified retirement home and to drift off into the sweet good night as the nigger nurse shoves a pillow in our face.It’s less important as to why shit’s fucked and it’s infinitely more important to understand how shit got fucked when shit wasn’t fucked; and the short answer to that is: kindness is a weakness. Instead of keeping the world under our thumb, we chose to hand over all of our knowledge to them—for free—because that was the “right” thing to do. It was super sweet and gave everybody at the time a really good feeling in their tummy. Except now, we learn that the rest of the world still want to cut our throat despite everything we’ve done for them.
>>489045132Historically immigrants work very hard. The issue is when you just flood the market with millions of them. You gotta trickle them in, alienate them, and assimilate them, and they'll learn to work hard to get what they want. I'm not sure where world leaders got the idea to stop going by that model.
Kikes use the spectre of a necessary post-boomer population crunch to scare boomers (who'll be fucking dead or dying anyway) into voting for infinity poojeets.
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>>489040919Globalist capitalism NEEDS the whole planet to be brown, poor and desperate. It's not a coincidence.
>>489040919>Our lives have only gotten worse, literally every year is worse than the lastWrong, people were dying of basic injuries and lost limbs for life back in the 60s and 70s. People were not eating full cooked meals 3 times a day or having full unlimited knowledge and entertainment on a PC. Life is way better now than ever, you spoilt shit.Immigrants do jobs most Brits refuse to, most of the underclass of Britain refuse jobs, live on the dole, get drunk every single day, do drugs, lets their kids have sex and children at a young age. They are lazy, entitled and deserve everything thats coming to them. Stop blaming immigrants for your shit life
>>489048905>misandryYou mean misanthropy>You realize development slows population growth, right?That only happened in the 20th century. Every other time in history, technological and social advancements led to population booms. Makes you think, huh?
>>489040919When they say, "We", they're not talking about you, only themselves.THEY need immigrants to drive up demand and, hence, profits while simultaneously suppressing wages (expenses).Seriously, though, we need a Hunger Games for CEO's, except the working class gets to vote for the entrants.
>>489040919boomers need their diapers changed. the economy of all nations today are pyramid schemes. Probably no other way to structure it
>>489040919We don't, your government and business needs wage slaves though. They don't care about us, our culture, or our country. They just want to make money for jews
>>489040919Who fucking knows. Either it is that the owners of nations (corporations) simply want more and more revenue from as many cattle as possible. Or its a direct attack on Western people. Like a soft, slow destruction. Or maybe its both. Or maybe there's other reasons. Whatever it is one hting is sure...Australia is being utterly swamped with Indians, South Sea islanders, jet black Africans, Asians etc etc etc. The numbers have to be MINIMUM 2 times what the official Gov figures say. Minimum. But more likely it is 10 times what the official numbers say. Or worse.
>>489041312>>489045132Both can and are true. They want what's our birth right and they need slaves.
>>489048905>development slows population growthIt's mostly female education, is what a kike would say. Which, ofc, is just half the truth. It's taking women out of the marriage market in their peak years while indocrinating them and having them compete with men for wages.Everyone know that women in the workforce was the initial attack that killed the nuclear family dream of owning a house, two cars and having two kids on a single income.Now, we're already deep into a world where you need a degree for a decent job and universities, as well as employers, happily do their part to make sure most men will have no chance at all to create a family in their prime.Population growth starts and ends with women, not development and if you can keep them from having kids (or even wanting kids) then that's all it takes to ruin a civilization.
>>489040919Labor scabs. That is all they are, and it’s a one shot deal, their kids want real wages.
>>489041047There should be tax jubilees where billionaires and corporations pay for all our taxes in some years. We need wealth transfer.
>>489040919real culture isnt profitable, but selling it as a caricature is. thats why the left loves "multiculturalism"population growth is profitable, but having babies is expensive, importing people from abroad is cheaperit's only for bigger numbers on paper and bigger bank accounts for big corps, they dont give a shit about the people. standart of living is a lie, liberals are useful idiots not realizing what they're supportingsame reason they hate tariffs, they love exploiting foreign labor, and immigration lets them do it domestically
>>489040919jews
>>489042144“Infinite growth” needs to die as a concept alongside “legal migration”
>>489043710Bruh just look up Emanuel Celler and stop advocating for kikes
>>489040919>but how did our ancestors do just fine without them?They've issued their own currency, not burrowed 'money' for a premium and compoind interest.
>>489040919Following video of him in Peru is vastly better than England. England officially worse than the turd world.
>>489040919You néed us, Spics, to feed you.Why do you need nigger macaques,who attack you in thé streets ?No idea.Ask yours Prime Minister.M sure it's a vêry politically incorrect question .It's Just like asking why do you néed Kikes.
>>489052715I can see you having an argument for canada and the uk perhaps, but there's no reason for the US to be dependent on anything, the way things are now are artificial, forced globalization.
>>489040919The jews just say whatever suits their needs, anon. The West is being dismantled by jews. Anything they say-true or not- serves only to further their goals, not ours.
>>489053172Correct. For starters people should be doing homesteading, garden, chickens, hydroponics. I've seen jewtube videos of warm crops being grown in canada indoors in big tarp-esk setups, everyone should do that along with making things with 3d printing, etc., go against the jew global racket, de-jew your life as much as possible.
Immigrants are used as a way to suppress the market value of workers in a way that only a large corporation can benefit from. Like how it is illegial for predatory pricing but flooding the market with someone to drive down costs isn't. It is basic economics and every fucking communist and corporatist will argue in loops how it totally isn't just trickle down economics for the average worker.
>>489040919you don't need immigrants, whites can do very well alonethat's it
>>489040919Our generation has to work 2x as hard because instead of 7 workers paying for 1 pensioners, it's like 4 of us per pensioner now. Yet our pay has not increased... so we are not able to afford basics for family planning like a house or nutritious food, and eventually the kid's schooling. Corporations benefit from us doing twice as much and refuse to lose profits. Slowly every place loses more people because they raise the worker's expectations but never their pay. Eventually, locals give up this race to the death, and companies would rather hire 3rd world retards with no standards to work for slave wages. We don't need them. Corporations want them.
>>489054062Think of everything you use and how you can produce it yourself. After essentials, anything jew or foreign, high cost.
>>489054260>workers paying fors/pensioners/"immigrants"/
>>489054716or more to the point, jew bioweapons.
>>489050500Imagine the liberal whites that trully believe that crap "diversity is our strength"How retarded must you be to believe that...I imagine hundreds of times the worst toeture methods a liberal could go through.You guys do not understand true hatred.
>>489053588Why do we allow this to happen? Wouldn’t the good far outweigh the bad of just not continuing to import animals?
>>489042007>wage supressioncome on nigger maximizing profit is jew game do to an ever increasing fiat supplyprofit is chasing a ratio of available moneyif money creation was static every good produced would directly reduce price by increasing supply eventually creating an equilibrium of an exchange of labor and production without exploitation (what communists actually want)the only way exploitation occurs is when a product is sold more than its labor/cost in representative currency which can only occur with an increasing money supply through usuryTHE FREE MARKET DOES NOT CREATE EXPLOITATIONMONEY CREATION DOES AS USURY UPDATES THE MONEY SUPPLY TO A GREATER WHOLE THAT COMPANIES HAVE TO KEEP UP THE RATIO OF THEIR CAPITAL WITH TO STAY PROFITABLE (Granting leverage over employees and consumers)AND THE WHOLE POINT OF THE CURRENT PROCESS OF MONEY CREATION IS TO CREATE THIS PROCESS OF EXPLOITATION TO GENOCIDE WHITE PEOPLE AND EXALT THE JEWISH PEOPLE OVER THE REMAINING GOYIMFREE INTERCHANGE OF LABOR AND PRODUCTION THROUGH A WEALTH MEDIARY SHOULD NOT BE EXPLOITATIVE AND WOULD BE WITHOUT USURY AND JEWISH BANKINGYAHWEH LET MY PEOPLE GOFREE THE EUROPEANDOWN WITH THE GOD OF ISRAELTHE GOD OF SLAVERY AND OPPRESSION
>>489040919My YouTube feed is full of these companies that help pajeets in pooland come over and take care of all the work if they can pay. Why do you allow this, Canada?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX_Ym8HA6Ds
>>489045910Ironic how Israel is allowed to openly and unapologetically have an ethnostate as well, meanwhile whites can’t have shit
https://streamable.com/qpnqxqHer
>>489055968We allow it to happen because we don't compete with jews in business. jews' power is money & owning everything. de-jew your own life is a starting point but to really counter them need the multiplier of going into business, taking away market share, shekels and power from jews.
>>489040919That's even more depressing that I thought it would be.
>>489054569and can't produce or provide it yourself, look for non jew/shitksin alternatives.
>>489056970and if this fails, whatever gives the least shekels to jews/shitskins.
>>489041047Honestly, I think at this point they're just an excuse to siphon away government money. Of course the real estate developer wants a thousand more people bankrolled by the government to rent more homes he built.
