How is this not a war crime?
>>489043543its ok when we do it
>>489043656btw it was meant for berlin but they surrendered. we got so pissed off we nuked japan twice
>>489043543No one cares about bugs
>>489043543Because it saved more lives than it took retard. An invasion of Japan would've meant more American casualties than both nukes combined, and if the Japanese continued to fight like they did on Okinawa, literal millions of Japanese would have died. It was not a war crime because it was unironically the humane thing to show Japan that they could do nothing to win no matter how hard they fought.
>>489043543Ever head of Unit 731? About how the Japanese used chemical and biological weapons on the Chinese? Killed more than the nukes did. Chinks hate Japanese guts for that alone, and will forever.War IS a fucking crime. And the (((criminals))) are in the boardrooms of banks, plotting to start the next one.
>>489043543The Allies did not commit war crimes, only the fascists.
>>489043543Winners can't commit crimes
>>489043543TO THE JAPANESE PEOPLE:America asks that you take immediate heed of what we say on this leaflet.We are in possession of the most destructive explosive ever devised by man. A single one of our newly developed atomic bombs is actually the equivalent in explosive power to what 2000 of our giant B-29s can carry on a single mission. This awful fact is one for you to ponder and we solemnly assure you it is grimly accurate.We have just begun to use this weapon against your homeland. If you still have any doubt, make inquiry as to what happened to Hiroshima when just one atomic bomb fell on that city.Before using this bomb to destroy every resource of the military by which they are prolonging this useless war, we ask that you now petition the Emperor to end the war. Our president has outlined for you the thirteen consequences of an honorable surrender. We urge that you accept these consequences and begin the work of building a new, better and peace-loving Japan.You should take steps now to cease military resistance. Otherwise, we shall resolutely employ this bomb and all our other superior weapons to promptly and forcefully end the war.EVACUATE YOUR CITIES.ATTENTION JAPANESE PEOPLE. EVACUATE YOUR CITIES.Because your military leaders have rejected the thirteen part surrender declaration, two momentous events have occurred in the last few days.The Soviet Union, because of this rejection on the part of the military has notified your Ambassador Sato that it has declared war on your nation. Thus, all powerful countries of the world are now at war with you......
>>489043543it wasbut so was all the fucked up shit they were doing in China, Korea, and the Pacificand we didn't feel like sending another 100 thousand of our dudes to die in another drawn out land campaignso we did that insteaddon't like it? don't attack us and then be absolute cunts about it when you're clearly already beaten
>>489043543The Japanese deserved it. Did you know they attacked the US and refused to surrender? Did you know they executed American POWs? They were evil bugs and butchered 200,000 people in Nanking.
>>489043543>>489045516....Also, because of your leaders’ refusal to accept the surrender declaration that would enable Japan to honorably end this useless war, we have employed our atomic bomb.A single one of our newly developed atomic bombs is actually the equivalent in explosive power to what 2000 of our giant B-29s could have carried on a single mission. Radio Tokyo has told you that with the first use of this weapon of total destruction, Hiroshima was virtually destroyed.Before we use this bomb again and again to destroy every resource of the military by which they are prolonging this useless war, petition the emperor now to end the war. Our president has outlined for you the thirteen consequences of an honorable surrender. We urge that you accept these consequences and begin the work of building a new, better, and peace-loving Japan.Act at once or we shall resolutely employ this bomb and all our other superior weapons to promptly and forcefully end the war.EVACUATE YOUR CITIES.TL;DR - We made every effort to minimize civilian casualties, and did multiple rounds of dropping warning leaflets, attempts at peace talks, showed proof that we had it, and told them we were going to use it.
>>489045516TRVKE
>>489043725>meant for berlinSad. Nobody should accept german surrenders. Nuke them anyways.
>>489045516>>489045725imagine being them, thinking that we were bluffing, and then realizing we weren't. that shit had to be terrifying for your average joe shmoe just trying to live and put food on the table.
>>489043543From what my Grandfather used to tell me, Nuking Japan actually saved millions of lives. Had America had to invade with troops it would have killed many Japanese and Americans. The death toll would have been enormous. Those nukes forced Japan into a corner very swiftly.
>>489044295They could have kept on fighting after the bomb if they wanted to. What would the US do? Drop another bomb? Pffff
>>489043543Because fuck em, they sucker punched us at Pearl Harbor while claiming to be a race of men with "honor"Quite frankly if I were in charge I would drop a nuke on a random Japanese city every 10 years just to remind people that if you fuck with the biggest dog on the block you might get held down and humped. Fuck the Japanese, the are a race of cowardly imps who think themselves brooding tigers. 2 wasn't enough
>>489045516What a masterful bit of deception nukes are
>>489046428wow boomer, did you serve in the war?
>>489043656fpbp
>>489045583They attacked the US because they were interfering with their attempt to gain influence in Asia.
>>489046562>wow boomerBussin meme, renter
>>489046149War isn't fun, and it's a big reason why we have tried to encourage, peace, freedom of movement, and speech so you can avoid pointless deaths like that. Before you get too sappy about the average joe working at a munitions factory he probably hated you, and wanted to kill you for being weak, and if he lived he still hates you to this day. White tourists get spit on by random Japanese people on the street to this day, and their law enforcement permits basically all crimes against foreigners.
>>489043656always has been
>>489045725That's why in anime, it's unthinkable to use your ultimate attack technique without first loudly announcing it.
>>489046322It would have taken them a few years before they would have had another bomb ready.
>>489046888oh I don't mean like they weren't totally asking for it. I just mean imagine being some rando with a 9-5 shmuck job and hearing that the americans are bluffing from your government and then seeing that fucking cloud go up over Hiroshima.
>>489045516>>489045725Fun fact: the only condition the Japanese were asking for surrender was that the emperor would be spared of any trial and/or public shaming/execution/incarceration, something the yanks eventually conceded, but they still dropped the bombs to stop the commies from invading the main islands, foiling Stalin's plan to partition Japan like Germany.
>>489043543It's not a warcrime because no one could hold them accountable. That's the redpill on warcrimes. They exist solely for the powerful nations to impose their will on weaker nations. The only time a powerful nation ever has to answer for warcrimes is when the public opinion of an action is so bad that they are forced to scapegoat some low rank soldiers, like the us did in vietnam.
it's only a war crime if you lose.
>>489043725It was never for Berlin. Washinton already agreed that the Soviets would take it. The point was to get ‘back’ for Pearl Harbor and Japan’s supposed act of aggression.
>>489048719Jews developed the nukes to drop on Germans
>>489048719>The point was to get ‘back’ for Pearl HarborThe point was "holy shit I'm so fucking sick of these assholes and their 'to the last man' mentality even though they're obviously defeated so fuck this, I'ma drop a few of these and tell em to stop fucking around, and also to show that faggot Ivan over there what's up."
>>489043543>>wars>>crimesThe war is crime itself, if you allow the war you decriminalize crime
>>489043543>How is this not a war crime?Because the law of war allows you to use as big of a bomb as you can make.If Japan didn't want to vaporized with sci-fi weapons they shouldn't have bombed Pearl Harbor.
>>489043543Japs fucked around and found out
>>489048649History is written by the victors
>>489048854I have been reading lots of Zionist papers and magazines from the 20s and 30s and this has to be the most glaringly obvious truth about all nuclear war, past and future.
>>489043543We've been over this. Something is only a "war crime" when you lose
>>489043543Warcrimes and human rights are buzzwords
>>489048109Not a FACT at all!The Japs were fanatics and seldom surrendered !
>>489043543It is and was
>>489048109No, we're actually privy to communications at the time. While it is true "Public Shaming" was how it was pitched, they wanted to keep all territorial holdings in China, refuse any public appearances, or official diplomatic negotiations between the Emperor, and parties at war with Japan (Basically everybody) and for him to maintain all powers, and authority over the operation of their armed forces, and population. That basically equates to a cease fire with no concessions. This of course, did not happen. Manuchuko was returned, the Emperor was made to attend the meetings, his powers were curtailed, and their military surrendered, and was weakened. International ties were re-opened, and Japan did not go on to larp like nothing happened.If you want to see what happens when you allow a nation to do a dumb isolated larp after a cease fire with the previous leaders staying in power with no concessions, see North Korea for how that works out for you.
