Any chance I will be able to afford a house in Washington state by 2030-2035ish after graduating from college?
>>489043589Hahahahhahahahahhahahhahaha.
>>489043589no/thread
The real question is why you would want to
>>489043589depends, are you willing to work for it or do you expect the house to just materialize in front of you with everything paid?
>>489043589By 2035 my dear son, you will by law not be allowed to own any permanently stationed land based property, you will have the capability and right of renting these houses to benefit it's powerful state backed private enterprise owners, that will be all.The age of Neo-Feudalism begins.
>>489043895Washington is the least zogged state outside of Seattle/Tacoma. I live in PA, and it looks like paradise compared to here. Gas is only a bit more expensive but they have no income tax. Minimum wage is the highest in the US. Rent in rural Washington is only a bit more expensive and same with groceries.
Sure....here you go, OP:https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2280-NE-60th-St-Seattle-WA-98115/48652323_zpid/
>>489044126It is almost like WA state gives a shit about their residents...
>>489043589Could use some interior updates, but it's only $2.2 million:https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2033-11th-Ave-E-Seattle-WA-98102/48785489_zpid/
>>489043910The problem is that wages don't pay enough, even as an engineer, to pay for a house that is even 350k.
>>489044398Blah, blah, blah. I know Seattle is expensive. But I do not want to live in some shithole like I currently live. I am trying to get OUT of the 3rd world, not stay in it. But I conjecture that even here we will see a rise in house prices because of all of the Californian bastards with too much money but not enough to afford the mountain states will begin to move here.
>>489043589Probably not. You'll have to get an apartment in Seattle or something. The countryside is expensive as fuck.
>>489043589You need to be 18 to post here kid
>>489045389If it is a shitty apartment in Seattle, I will look elsewhere.
>>489045389This is probably the nicest part of the state (in my opinion). And it ain't cheap.
>>489045465I am 19 dumbass.
>>489043589it looks nice how expensive it is to heat that big thing?also why is it built of wood and not concrete and blocks?
>>489044230>>489044126Ok schizo
>>489043589Lmao not a chance dude sorry welcome to serfdom
>>489045504Look at these affordable homes out in the middle of a mountain range
>>489043589you get hit with unrealized gain tax yearly and repair and maintenance
>>489043589if you're not going to college in california you're not going to be able to buy a house in washington, you can only inherit one you retard
>>489045562Why are you waiting so long to go to college then?
>>489045714More homes for the working man.
>>489045617I made it using Flux 1.1 Pro
>>48904587219 in 2024.20 in 2025.I will see how things go, but I want to try to spread my engineering classes out over 5 years to reduce the workload so I don't drop out and be royally fucked then. I am only estimating afterwards because it will take a few years to save up for a down payment (ideally).Really, if I could find some shitty home for like 50K and pay it off in full and then live in it for a few years off of 80k a year engineer salary, my expenses would plummet and I could save a lot more to invest.
>>489046378If cheap real estate is what you’re looking for, then Alabama or Arkansas is better desu
>>489046378Honestly, if I could just inherit our house, it would be better. I could work any job practically and be able to get ahead. Our house would be worth max like 100K. It is useless on the housing market. But my parents don't want that and what if the taxes increase so much that that idea becomes unaffordable too?
>>489043589No.Never.
>>489046467Entry level engineers only get paid like 60-70K there and I am going to go for mining engineering. There are only coal mines in Alabama, Arkansas doesn't really have mining anymore. Would prefer MS honestly, but even less so than AR for mining engineering prospects.
>>489045928>>489045714who literally even has this much money for an average wooden house in an average place? how many of you anons are homeowners?even if you get a cool 80k salary and save 40k / year, that's 30 years until you can buy something like this. then you pay the taxes, utility fees, hoa fees in the thousands per month.. I want to get a st petersburg apartment and there you actually OWN the place and don't pay monthly fees that's higher than rent in most cities, that's my dream
>>489047427Here in the Rust Belt, houses are affordable. They have not inflated at all because the Rust Belt is basically Eastern Europe, in weather, in income, in people, etc. No one wants to live in America's Eastern Europe with niggers and slave wages.
>>489046467There be niggers there though.
>>489047427Apartment ? But you don’t get a patch of land to plant flowers or grow tomatoes, or for your dog to pee on.
>>489047941It depends. The Ouachitas and Bostons of AR practically have none. The coal mining areas of Northern AL practically have none either.
Sorry breh, you're going to miss the dump and have to wait until like 2045.
>tfw I bought a home in PNW small town in 2020 before full retard pricesFeels good man. As long as you stay outside of major cities the PNW is based.
>>489047960houses are boring and you're far away from everything, people can't commute to you to play board games + drinks unless they all have a car and a driver's license. you can't ride the metro and have to constantly find a place to park your car. you can't just open the door and WAM you're in the metropolis
>>489048524I would be fine living in a small town or city, but not some shitty Amerimutt metropolis or Saint Petersburg.
>>489043589I just found out that my house is in the fastest growing "suburb" in the United States and prices are skyrocketing. If you can tell which way the wind is blowing for the next "boom" area, you could relocate for a few years to an affordable area and then cash out once the market peaks. I fell ass backwards into this one. Bought in 2019 for $355k and now houses are selling for between $1.5-$2m. Time to bail out of CA.
>>489049249I just explained here: >>489046783
>>489048941why? for me the more the merrier, more stuff to explore, as long as the architecture is good. 10 mil pop is a good size for a citysmall cities don't have metros or beautiful monuments
>>489049504Honestly, the second you can afford a house, just do it. Inheritance is good, but don't make that Plan A. And don't overpay if you do decide to buy a house. Ignore the marker and use common sense on the house itself, the area and the amenities nearby. If you can honestly think "this is the best value for the money on what I can afford", that's your house. Just don't shoot too high; I've noticed people are foregoing the "starter house" idea and that's why the market is so insanely high. That's also why there will be a significant dip in the market soon due to income drop offs. Buy one of those houses that you can live with temporarily and don't look back. At the least it's an asset that you can borrow against in an emergency (and will allow you to get loans if you want to start a small business or something).
>>489043589>paint your house white>allow all that green shit to grow on the side of it
>>489043589I can afford a house in Washington state.Everybody can.Its basicaly like Montana,but it doesn't sound so cool...Why would anybody want to live in this shithole?
>>489050629>Why would anybody want to live in this shitholeIn Chile?
>>489050188American cities are usually just filled with parking lots and shitty skycrapers, not traditional architecture.
>>489044126Oregon is infinitely better. I say this as an Oregonian who has lived in many states, including Washington. I love Washington, but it's nearly as cucked as PA. Their are a million hidden taxes on everything; even parking on the side of a non arterial road in the middle of the fucking woods requires one of like 5 permits annually. You can NOT escape people. You can climb mount Adams and you'll find women in REI shit hiking with their baby at 9 on a Wednesday. Portland sucks dick, but the rest of oregon is literally Washington with less rain and better freedoms. Also way less people. Also, you're not volcano doomed here. Washington is dark, cold, and very lonely. It's also way too expensive. The high pay is a meme. Making 30 bucks an hour to do literally not jack shit won't save you from the nickle and diming
>>489044126Is Spokane pozzed like Seattle?
>>489052282>but it's nearly as cucked as PA.Have you lived in PA? Also, I just looked, Oregon is about the same as WA in house prices... Also you have to remember that the Eastern part of OR is even ruraler than Eastern WA.
OP, I live near Seattle/Redmond.DO NOT MOVE HEREYou will not find land near a job for $50k. Will would be lucky to find a mobile home for $500k. I looked at an rentable bedroom with shared bathroom for $1,400/month in Everett yesterday. Our property taxes are being jacked to fuck by retarded public transport projects. Gun rights are the worst in the country. Jeets are being imported wholesale. Despite being on the ocean fishing/hunting regulations are retarded. This state is the most gigafucked in the nation.
>>489043589Eastern WA? Sure you can, there are still sub-$200k homes but it's rare.
>>489055526Eastern WA sucks though. The desert is weird, it has the worst of both worlds kind of climate, and there are a bunch of violent Spics.
>>489055910Tell them coastie hippies you'll plant fucking trees there and pretend you'll vote left, they'll be pissing on each other to send YOU money.
>>489054835Overall, I hate this fucking country so much. The only redeemable thing about this place is the nature, which is slowly becoming harder and harder to see. I am 19 and never even been 5 hours from my house. I have no life, no future I feel either. And I am trying and conjecturing and planning. I am not some retarded foid who has no plan for life and gets the life most dream of. I have to fucking plan.
Yes, but you doompilled zoomer faggots aren't even looking at those houses because they're too far from this or that or the house needs fixing
>>489056396The only thing I have is a girlfriend from Latin America where she has a better life than me too. And at least there, in order to have a good life, it isn't a pissing competition for everything like in this "country". But she does not want to live there eventhough the standard of living is mooning there. She wants live in the US because it is le "safe".
>>489043589There wont be a washington come 2035 anon
>>489056571Even the "fixer uppers" in the middle of a desert are going for like 200K at least.
>>489056396>I am 19 and never even been 5 hours from my house.You've really never traveled more than approximately 350 miles?
>>489056830I don't believe that for one secondThat gets you a nice villa with separate garage and boathouse here
>>489056855Nope. Farthest I have been is northern VA to visit one of my mother's family members that died. We drove there in the morning and by the next day came back.
>>489057171Well, by the same day came back.
>>489043589You have to be 18 to post here
>>489043589>Any chance I will be able to afford a house in Washington state by 2030-2035ish after graduating from college?The world will look much different by then.Not sure if owning a house would even be a priority.
>>489057159I was just looking at houses in NM the other day. Some decaying shithole in a town with 1000 people was going for like 200K. It is ridiculous.
>>489057261I just explained it here dumbass: >>489046378Presumptious millennial.
Not on the western side of the state. Maybe in Spokane if you can find a job that pays well enough.
>>489057372Housing is problematic, FED is beginning the easing cycle which is re-introducing inflationary pressures on housing prices, also longer term bond yields are rising meaning mortgage rates are rising again.This setup is a disaster, and because Central planners (FED/GOV) have effectively put in place bailout mechanisms, it's only going to get worse. They cannot allow an asset class as large as the US housing market to collapse because like the GFC, it could threaten the entire financial system. And because of the prior bailouts, the assholes who speculated to the degree it almost collapsed the system, have continued to speculate even more, moral hazard.
>>489052282Oregon is more fucked than you realize. I live here too. They won't build more houses. Just more rentals. They don't maintain their roads. They constantly want to introduce more taxes that make any businesses that might consider moving here say fuck that. Extremely corrupt government at every level in every town. Our education is dog shit. Its fucking expensive. Traffic keeps getting worse and nobody cares. Jobs don't pay near enough to afford living here unless you're playing the corporate game. This state is fucking gorgeous. But they don't give a fuck about us as residents.
>>4890435890%, you will work and 50% of your income will go to rent an apartment (you will own nothing) and 90% of the rest will go as well to buy what you need to exist and work (consumables)By the end of the operation 95% of what you made will go only destined to mantain you to keep working and you will be so tired you will do nothing with the remaining 5%that until you are 66 and retire, you will be extra tired at that point
>>489046378You're not going to find a home for that much in the PNW that's also going to allow you to get a salary worth anything unless you want to drive all the damn time. Plots of land often sell for double that.
>>489057924I hate all of these faggot Boomers and Gen X and millennial cunts from CA that have too much money so just buy up houses to rent out or AirBnB so they can enjoy their lives. Cunts deserve to be hung in public.Really, this country is a giga pile of shit now. I would say even 10 years ago, despite being 9, the country was in a LOT better condition. The COVID and our current recession royally fucked everything. I would prefer to live in Latam, but my girlfriend is so delusional she thinks life here is all easy and dandy when she herself has a much bigger future than I do.
>>489046378You wont be making 80 for a while, you will start at 52 maybe.And by the time you're making 80, it's the same as making 52.You will be in your 40s before you can even save anything substantial, if you've been putting aside 401k, plus your health insurance contribution Add a woman or family into the mix and you're fucked if she isn't working at an equivalent rateAlso, if you don't know 5 good engineers or employers personally that would hire you you're fucked, good luck when all your classmates are sand niggers pajeets and chinks>t.lived this through the last 20 years, now can't get hired cuz I'm White on top of it
>>489058503Save up for retirement and invest. Buy a house when or if you can.
>>489058503Yeah, I feel doomed. If this bitch leaves me, I am going to fuck off from my parents and try to squat or something. I want to live life.
>>489058449I was looking for alternative setups,Just getting affordable land with out textbooks of regulations to put a structure on it is out of reach unless you go out to the middle of nowhere.There is definitely a stranglehold with regulatory capture , fiscal and monetary policy. I think housing is a barometer of how exactly fucked those policies have become. But unlike the GFC, this time the crash will be up, as in housing affordability gets worse as the dollar continues to lose purchasing power faster.
>>489058861Also, I cannot just work and live in my parents' house to save up. My parents, particularly my dad, doesn't want me to "throw my life away". He wants me to fucking go to college. He is a drunk cunt that has everything handed to him.
0% if you are born working or low middle class. The only friends I have that make good money sold drugs for years and used the profits to buy heavy equipment and started contracting companies. To get ahead you have to be born ahead or cheat.
>>489058573Just giving kids truth that they won't get from school or parentsI was smart and bought in '16, and invested in my girl doing real estate, that is the only reason I even got any where at all
>>489058903I have a wonderfuk story to tell:>Be me>2012ish, I got my Nintendo DS>7>Obsessed with Montana, particularly Kalispell>Look mommy, you could get a big cabin for 100K>Be me>2024>Look at houses there. They are now worth 450K+
>>489059403In 2012 if you asked me about that living situation i'd roll my eyes, but now, I'd actually love to live like that considering how society and the financial system is breaking down.I like Trump and all but these issues cannot be resolved without tremendous pain which is why every financial person will tell you that the FED is in a catch 22.Basically, keep devaluing the currency to make debt more manageable (Inflation worsens) or that debt will destroy the system (Deflationary Mad Max depression).
>>489043589We could just seize liberals assets and take it back
>>489043589the great boomer die-off is about to happenaverage age of death is 75so it'll start next year with more and more deaths over timeif you don't mind old people smell
>>489059917I want to move to LATAM, a house costs like 50-60K dollars. The problem is getting an income there. But if I were born there and became an engineer, the engineers there are unironically better off than ones in this country. Society there is not fucked like it is here, economically or culturally. It is getting better. Also I had a theory about 3rd world countries:They will actually be much better off than the first countries to industrialize. Why? Because they are receiving capital from the 1st industrialized countries combined with more technology and knowledge to make their countries even better off. When the US was industrializing, we were using crude shitty steam powered machinery. Now, a factory in XYZ country can make much more products and raise pay faster.
>>489043589sure. if you want >>489044217 house, if you can set aside 42k/ yr after taxes and everything remains fairly stable.assuming avrg market return after inflation 8% in 8 years you will have ~450.000$, after taxes this is more than enough to get a good mortgage.depending on how risk prone you are, how willing you are to live far away from the city or how much you can save you can do better than this.also yoloing all your saving in a mortgage is not a good idea but you do you
yes, very easily if you do something worthwhile to society and don't want to live in faggot central Seattle.
>>489043589got 600K?
>>489062178And how so? You do realize that even most engineers can't afford the cost of houses in WA right now? Only I am asking because I am hoping that maybe when the boomers die, there will be a surplus of houses.
>>489062502Boomers aren’t going to all drop dead at the same time. They’re already dying and their houses are bought 2 weeks after being on in the market for the current inflated prices. It’s never gonna happen bro.
