>Create a problem>Sell the solution Why do people put up with this shit?
>>489048950You don't get on the highway to go to the grocery store. Even in califag it's a 5-10 minute drive.
>>489048950if you dont want to live 5 km from a grocery store, dont move there?
High density living sucks ass.t. broadcasting live from high density living
>>489049051>You don't get on the highway to go to the grocery store. Even in califag it's a 5-10 minute drive.My nearest costco is 40 minutes away.I am also outside the range and sight of Radioactive Zombie Niggers.
All the grocery stores 1, 2, 3 or 4 miles away have closed down due to repeated theft and general lawlessness
>>489048950>5km awayare canadians really more lazy than americans?
>>489049051The question I'm asking is:Why do I need a vehicle to feed myself? Especially when in Europe you simply walk to the grocery store.
Where are the personal transportation drones I was promised. They would solve a lot of problems
>>489049242Convenience stores such as 7-11 and Walgreens exist on almost every city block and are also a 5 minute walk. Also who the fuck walks to a grocery store and wants to carry bags of groceries home? I almost never buy such a small amount of groceries that I would want to carry it home with me even if it was a quarter mile walk.
>>489049426Also, Americans make so much more than Europeans and get taxed so much less that you can consider having a car a "free" benefit.
>>489049099>if you dont want to live 5 km from a grocery store, dont move there?You fucking bigot There used to be grocery stores there, but systemic racism caused them to close when they couldn't deal with all the shoplifting that went on
>>489049207One of the grocery stores nearest to me, which is right next to a light rail station, has become a medium security prison in order to purchase things. The other grocery stores away from public transit don't seem to have this problem.
>>489048950>Closest supermarket is 5km from the neighbourhoodPoint me this neighbourhood on the map.
>>489049426>who the fuck walks to a grocery store and wants to carry bags of groceries homeThat's how it works in Europe. People shop for less stuff but go more frequently because its less of a commencement.
>>489050096*commitmentfucking sell check
>>48904987443°49'37.6"N 79°39'25.1"W
>>489048950Try 50
>>489050485I'm in the DFW area and drive a tractor.
>>489050096I don't fucking care, anyone who has had a car and had to walk know cars are better. You're either a lazy poorfag incapable of accessing a car or you're a rich leftist that hopes poorfags never use cars so he doesn't have to wait in traffic with his BMW.Also, Americans make so much more than Europeans and get taxed so much less that you can consider having a car a "free" benefit. If you consider this, having a car in America is FREE. Because the difference in wages and taxes is well over $1000/mo.
>>489049515> Americans make so much more than Europeans and get taxed so much lessWe may get paid more, but we get taxed even harder. The average American pays more in taxes than the average European, but gets less benefits and social services
>>489051133No we don't you fucking retard. They literally have a 20% sales tax on top of their 50% income tax.
>>489051184Then you ignore they pay literally twice as much for gas and electricity and don't even have air conditioning so every summer several thousand of them die.
>>489048950are you seriously trying to say walking 5 km is unreasonable? lazy fat amerifats
>>489051184Granted, but they are not taxed on their money at every level of usage like we are. You get taxed when you spend money, when you make money, when you move money, when you save money, when you give money, when you lose money.
>>489048950None of it would have been necessary if free association was still the law of the land.
>>489048950Dude, supermarkets are nigger-magnets.The further you are from ground zero, the less you have to worry about random monkeyshines.>Verification not required.DAS RITE
>>489051436Why is it illegal to have stores in the neighbourhood
>>489049426>who the fuck walks to a grocery store and wants to carry bags of groceries homeubermensch, thats who. stop being a lazy worthless degenrate who cant carry a load on his back like your forefathers did. do you think your great grandpa needed to drive his corolla 5km to pick up some goyslop chips and pop for dinner. no he walked and worked hard for a wholesome meal. modern men are doomed, doomed i tell you.
>>489049202It can be based in the right demographics & size. Our town everything is literally less than a 5-10 min drive, like everything. And if you live anywhere around town most you can walk to, and def bike. There's even an Alamo Draft House here, w less than 100k population in the entire county.No I won't tell you where (we're full, fuck off).
>>489051122>I don't fucking care, anyone who has had a car and had to walk know cars are betterAmerican niggerbrain can't fathom other people having a different experience in life. Typical.
>>489051569youre the same kind of bonehead who protests against "15 minute cities".
>>489051673The level of projection and irony from this post is amazingI'm not taking away your legs
>hey we should have 15 minute cities so no one has to deal with this any...>THE ANTICHRIST IS TRYING TO DO MY URBAN PLANNING
>>489051636Actually yes, where I live there are streets that are 100 years old that people used to drive their new fangled automobiles on
>>489051122>being forced to need a car to eat is good because I can currently afford itThat the average American spends 1/5 of their income on their car. And something like 60 million Americans went to the food bank in the past months. Everyone shouldn't need one to live. You are being used.
>>489051814People recklessly spending their money isn't an argument. I didn't make the poorfags buy a Charger.
Car headlights are too fucking bright now, how are you people still able to see the road? I swear it's a conspiracy to get people to dislike driving more and more so the robot can take over. Just the other day I saw a backlight super bright just as much as the front light. They're trying to blind us.
>>489051902Get your cataracts checked
>>489051814Everyone who apologies for post-WWII urban design always acts like we live in 1920. Cars are just an expensive burden now, they're not a unique tool that gives you exceptional freedom anymore.>60 million Americans went to the food bankQuit calling everyone who lives in my country an American, stupid chink.
>>489051887The point is poofags need some kind of car to survive. Its a pointless waste of money. Cheap transportation is one of the best predictors of economic mobility.
>>489052036>Cars are just an expensive burden now, they're not a unique tool that gives you exceptional freedom anymore.Pretty sure we are just agreeing
>>489052128Your point is retarded because you're conflating reckless spending with rational spending. The $300/mo it costs to own and operate a car can be easily leveraged not only in literal time savings but access to better wages.
>>489049205That doesnt sound like a place you want to be in when the bombs drop.Billions of niggers will flock to your place to loot you for the negative amount of supplies you have, then they'll just kill you and take over your space.Gotta get a little farther away from people and live sustainably. Otherwise expect niggers and bandits. Nukes or not.
>>489052195I was agreeing with you, yes. But I turned the second part of my post into a reproof because I'm irritated by seeing right-wing posters write like media pundits.
>>489052270>AAA estimates the average cost of owning a car is about $10,728 annually (as of 2023), or $894 per month.excluding buying the car >For the year 2022, the U.S. Census Bureau estimates that the median annual earnings for all workers (people aged 15 and over with earnings) was $47,960Would it be rational to wish to not need this expense?
>>489051949I should probably do that.
>>489049426You're not strong enough to carry one bag in each hand..? Or..? If its, as you say, a 5minutes walk I guess you are a fucking fat fuck, can't carry a bag in each hand for 5 fucking minutes. (sometimes I carry two in each hand all the 5 minutes). It's not you're buying car batteries and bricks, right?
>>489051504Why doesn't government just make a "moving money" tax?
>>489051519>if free association was still the law of the landThe south wasn't free association, the north was.
>>489051811admitting you descend from lazy fucks is not the own that you think it is..
>>489051661lmao keep your fag IPA cinema.
>>489049242Why cant you walk 5 km you fat fuck?
>>489051814>And something like 60 million Americans went to the food bank in the past monthsWtf is a food bank?
>>489052924Anon, I've owned a car my entire life since I was 18 years old, it doesn't cost $10k/yr to own a car.Let's start with a $10,000 car which is decent and will have minimal problems. A 5 year loan on a $10,000 car is $194.45 a month ($2400 a year). Insurance would be roughly $100/mo. Gas is roughly $100/mo and that's assuming you're driving more than 20 miles per day at $5/gallon. General maintenance might average $500/yr. Of course $200/mo of that drops off when you pay off your loan.>was $47,960And in Europe that's more like $28,000I'll pay the car tax, thanks.
>>489048950It's a beautiful thing, I'm finally living it and I love it. You commies need to be taken to Hooker Chemical facility and tossed into a vat of boiling caustic soda.
>>489053416Free association also means the freedom to disassociate. Forced integration isn't free association, thanks for playing. You don't have the freedom to be with me if I don't want that.
>>489053881Imagine if you made all that money and didn't have to drive constantly >Germany wide train pass is 50 euros a month >The average annual wage of Germany was 45,457 euros per yearGermans get to keep more of their money
>>489052270>The $300/mo it costs to own and operate a car can be easily leveraged not only in literal time savings but access to better wages.Without regulations on safety they would be 200/mo
>>489054407I don't drive constantly and the time you spend walking and waiting for public transportation and taking public transportation is easily 10 times the amount of time I spend in a car.
>>489054489More like before Obama destroyed the used car market and made it basically impossible to access a decent car. 20 years ago $5000 got you a dependable car and between car insurance and your loan it was like $150/mo.
>>489052924>Would it be rational to wish to not need this expense?Only Boomers pay that much, and then they forget where they leave it in the lot. Killing Boomers would solve 75% of the problem.
>>489053959>Forced integration isn't free associationHomeschool then.
>>489054523And this ignores the things you can't literally do without access to a car. For example, this year I drove and visited a national park 200 miles away. It cost me $20 in gas.
>>489054735Thanks for conceding my point friend. Turns out the north isn't for freedom of association.
It's been an emerging trend since before the plandemic where supermarkets and even small grocers in cities have closed up shop. The convivences of living in a city are being inverted. It's called a "food desert" where there isn't any food within walking distance besides convenience stores selling chips and skittles. If the highways into the cities were chocked off, the people would be eating each other within two weeks.
I much prefer being surrounded by hundreds of thousands of people in all directions, encased in 10,000,000 tons of concretemuch more natural
>>489054523>time you spend walking and waiting for public transportation and taking public transportation is easily 10 times the amount of time I spend in a car.Because Americas pitiful infrastructure can be used to generalize the viability of trains in first world countries >zoooooooooom
>>489048950I thought you faggots liked walking.
>>489055073Last time I checked trains have set destinations and it's unlikely that the train station that train goes to is within walking distance to your destination. Just admit you're no different than a clipped bird allowed to only go to the destinations predetermined by his betters.
>>489054523This is easily refutable with some basic econ facts >Your time is valuable - it isnt>The congestion you cause means someone else who is under a time limit is stopped and conversely when YOU need to hurry you are fucked>you aren't properly bearing the environmental costs because lobbys prevent the real costs from being taxed or included>you aren't covering the infrastructure deterioration through heavier usage
>>489055073Even LA has shorter commutes than most yurpoor cities
>>489048950>wipoopoo dindu nuffin
>>489055314Ah yes this is where the real authoritarian left unmasks itself.
>>489055306>it's unlikely that the train station that train goes to is within walking distance to your destinationNo it isn't what do you mean?>first world country example:
I would get an E-Bike buy you aren't american so you don't have any money left over after taxes.
>>489055371Most people in those cities dont need to commute because everything is 2-5 mins walk away
it's so nice for people to do this on our independence day literally every nation in the world does it it's so nice
>>489055660oopsie doopsies
>>489055756Do you know what average is you dumb faggot
>>489055916The leaf is right. The commutes in those countries are so short they probably don't get included in the data most of the time.
>>489048950Literally didn't happen. I've lived in the sticks, towns, cities and all the uncorporated areas in between - literally there is no point where you are 5 miles from some sort of food store unless you live in the boonies (deep in the sticks). Canuck needs to address this problem in his own country.
>>489048950>having to drive 5km is a problemYou sound like a retarded faggot.
>>489056116Why wouldnt they include them?
>>489056116>implying that most of those graphs are literally biased to make public transportation look better because it's propaganda
>>489056436>>489056465im kidding
>>489048950go live in some nigger/indian filled city, I dont give a fuck.
>>489049242Because we don't live in a shoebox like western Europe. Russia is a huge place built for cars too (kinda, because Russia is a third-world shithole so there aren't a lot of roads).
>>489053563I don't go there, I'm just giving an idea of what it is & its unusual for the size of a place that's out by itself mostly & conservative voting all around it.The point you missed is under certain circumstances, some small urban areas can be based. Its what small/medium sized towns used to be before having niggers & spics dumped into them.
>>489055845Why are you ignoring the image lol?
>>489056814If zoning allowed for shops in the neighbourhood, there would be shops in the neighbourhood. And I could walk to the grocery store. Only downside is Walmart would no longer have a monopoly by controlling the only space allocated to shops.
>>489049242>in Europe you simply walk to the grocery store.If that's important to you, move to Europe.
>>489050096>because its less of a commencement.Because they have tiny refrigerators in their tiny apartments.
>>489057648I probably will. I have citizenship. I just don't understand why Americas are so happy to defend having zero choice in transportaion. Comes across as unamerican.
>>489048950But anon you are LE FREE when you buy the only thing available to make a lifestyle work
>>489057845kay, you've made it real clear that you lack any semblance of understanding as to what is "american".
create a problem? what are you saying, that before the highway was there, all those people just magically got to the supermarket with no problems or delays? it was easier to travel, BEFORE that highway was built?
>>489057845>I just don't understand why Americas...I can see that. Don't worry about what doesn't affect you.
>>489057845Because until we figure out a solution to joggers every smart America knows public transportation = nog harassment zoneIt's literally just burning money. Our only hope is self driving cars which will improve efficiency and make traffic jams a thing of the past.
>>489049515>Americans get taxed so much lessThe disparity isn't as extreme as people make it out to be, especially if you compare total income deductions, like insurance premiums and retirement contributions.My take-home pay is 60% of my gross pay after all the deductions. I pay property tax that works out to be about 10% of my income and 8% sales tax on purchases.Some of those numbers change depending on the State, but not by much (my state income tax is like 3% and most places in the US have 7-9% sales tax).
>>489057216Wow, just under 4x the amount of time as by car!What a great system of transportation!
>>489058036It does affect me because your stupid ideas cross the border
>>489058228The reason why its faster is people are on those trains and not on the roads. You should thank them.
>>489058153>retirement contributionsYou make that sound like you're paying a tax (you're not).
>>489058421Im saying you do need a car you fucking retard
>>489058489Actually you don't, there are many people who do in fact walk and take public transportation here. A car, much like having a dishwasher or laundry machine, is something you get because it's convenient.
>>489057845>I just don't understandProbably because you're retarded and don't know how to learn things.
>>489048950That's interesting. I've discovered this new thing, it's weird how it works, but you put seeds in the ground and then food just grows, for free. Also if you have chickens they just keep making more eggs and chickens. It's a mystery how it works. Everyone knows eggs and food come from the grocery stores. I've been thinking about taking my new discoveries to the scientific community. Just imagine a world where people could provide food for themselves! Sounds fake but it's real!
>>489058153You only paid 20% in federal income tax. Ok, plus the 8% state and then 4% SS, and of course medicare. Oh and you don't get healthcare out of this. And please, please contribute to your 401k because SS isn't going to be there because we need to fund immigrants. But it could be worse!
>>489058948Anon I know you're bad at math, but please calculate the difference between 20% income tax and 50% income tax on $50,000. Then ask yourself: is that more or less than $100/mo to buy health insurance and put $500/mo in a retirement account.
>>489059096Oh sorry, when I said 50% on $50,000, I meant $35,000 because that's actual difference in median income between an American and a *uropean.
>>489048950I've lived downtown and I've lived in the country. They both have their advantages, I walked to the store all the time but you also have to put up with more nuggets and nosy neighbors and hobos. I miss being able to walk to the bar, but at the same time I like where I live now as far as having a pool and a place to have fires and part of the woods, and a picnic table. It depends on what kind of person you are as far as which one you'll like better.
>>489058471>You make that sound like you're paying a tax (you're not).You're not trying to make a fair comparison either, though. You're counting everything as a tax, even something like a mandatory pension contribution (like Social Security in the US).
>>489059096>$100/mo to buy health insuranceYou don't have a job or a family.My federal tax is higher than 20% and you need to add in the other taxes you have to pay, which you are not getting anything out of.
>>489048950Lmaoing @ your misfortune
>>489059303>Niggers Goddammit autocorrect. Also it was nice being able to walk to work, but it sucks too because when it snows you're still expected to be there no matter how bad the roads are.
>>489058700>Atlanta 6 million (one of the least dense cities in the usa)>Munich 1 millionnice cherry pick bud ill grant you that Europe is denser
>>489048950Then move out of the city. The closest supermarket to my house is less than 2km away. I have made round trips in under eleven minutes.
>>489049687It's almost like niggers ruin everything they can get their hands on.
>>489059454I don't fucking care, Europeans pay an effective 50-70% effective tax rate on their income and make 30% less than us. You're not going to convince me otherwise without actually doing some good faith real math which you won't. You also ignore literally all the perks of having a retirement account you control and the perks of having healthcare choice. I literally have a straight white 40 year old man for my doctor, I can see him any time I want, no line, no wait list, $20 copay. Family insurance is $250/mo for me with a max out of pocket of $5000.Simply kill yourself you European cock sucker, go live there if it's so great.
>>489048950I'm a rightwing extremist and even I hate cars and car culture
>>489059303I lived in a city for a good decade and never lived near nuggets. It was nice but there are still advantages to quiet, spacious suburbs.
>>489058652In most cases its a forced choice. You cooouuuld live without a car but its very hard. And that's assuming you are fit and young.
>>489059551You're the cherry-picker, idiot.The dense cities in the US are the exception. They are the norm in Europe. You are a moron and don't understand geography at all.
>>489059965anon, fucking drop a pin in any city in America and notice you're full of shit, unless you live in rural america on a farm, you can literally walk or take a bus, every city has buses, I don't know where you delusions of how America is came from, I hope it's not purely from leftist 4chan propaganda because that would be pathetic
>>489059759My in laws when in Norway paid less in overall taxes then here. You know jack shit, boy.
>>489059830I'm sure there is, but I lived downtown in the city. The bar, stores, restaurants, my job, everything was like a 5 minute walk. It's nice but at the same time it's got problems.
>>489049242Where the fuck do you live that this is the case?I've lived in every single part of Greater Vancouver east of Delta, plus Victoria, Oak Bay, Saanich, Langford, Nanaimo, Chilliwack, Abbotsford, Prince Rupert, Edmonton, and now Prince Albert.At no time have I been more than half an hour on foot from. A huge fuck off grocery store. That's fucking ten minutes by bike or transit, tops. Five minutes by car. Municipalities of 12k and 600k and everything in between.Is this an Onterrible specific thing? Unless you deliberately live rurally, you can just live near a grocery store.
>>489060318>Norway>average under 45 makes $35000/yr>average rent is $1200Not looking good chum
>>489060584> Moving goalpostsThe point is, we get shit for the taxes we pay. And our taxes are not as low as people make them out to be.
>>489049207Where do you live?I live up norf, unemployment, extreme poverty central, NEVER have I even heard of supermarkets abandoning an area due to ghetto type shenanigans
>>489059967I just said: ill grant you that Europe is denser...
>>489048950>mooooo mooooo im a dumb bill gates niggercattle. me to stupid to get to grocery store 10 minutes away. mooooooo mooooooo me need to live in 15 minute walkable niggercattle feedlot. mooooo mooooo daddy government save me. moooooooooooooooooooo!
>>489060793>unemployment, extreme poverty centralIt's funny how this breeds both the best and worst of people.
>>489060798>24pbtidyep shill thread
>>489061229>t. fatty
>>489060196I'm assuming the USA is the same as CanadaThe buses and infrequent making them shitty. I'm not saying there are zero buses.
>>489060741Again you can't literally do basic math but apparently think it's free when the government taxes you $150/mo for what is $100/mo of insurance here. And you clap like a retard because it's mandatory.
>>489061445America isn't a third world shit hole like Canada, sorry. My city has buses running every 10 minutes.
>>489054407>didn't have toWant to* stop looking at everything through the eyes of a victim
>>489061535> $100/mo of insurance hereGet a job and find out. Make some money.
>>489061445our counties are big, only losers cant afford cars. we should send our poor back to the third world and keep the immigrants resourceful enough to get and maintain a car.
>>489061641I do have a job that's why I know you're full of shit lmao
>>489061686> $100 a mo for insurance, has jobNo you don't
>>489061593>America isn't a third world shit
>>489048950the future of shopping will be groceries airlifted by drone directly to your door, after being hand picked by employees in massive warehouses as the theft problem couldn't be solved. payment will be by card only and your location will be known always
>>489061445>The buses and infrequent making them shitty.The real problem is your buses get stuck in traffic.Good public transport requires dedicated lanes so it doesn't suffer when the roads get clogged up.When public transport has dedicated lanes people will choose a bus when congestion is too bad, which means fewer cars and thus less congestion.When buses get stuck in traffic there is no point in taking a bus so everyone choose to go by car and congestion becomes just a fact of life until it gets so bad that people start walking instead.
>>489060322Yeah I mean I lived downtown.I got groceries 3 times per week and ate out all the time. Walked right by Trader Joe's and a store full of yoga pants stretched over pussies and asses that I could visit any time I wanted.I had a bicycle and in good weather it was the fastest most convenient way to get around solo. I could get anywhere in the city on foot with my transit pass.But even before I left, I'd become much more car-centric. I still commuted on foot/transit/bike most of the time, but nearly 100% of weekend activities I did with my girlfriend involved driving somewhere. It was basically never more convenient to take public transit, unless I was planning to get trashed and even then I'd be more likely to call an uber.
>>489060798yeah but do you understand the implications?It means more people per transit stop.It means that in the US, people are going to start further away from an access point, and their final destinations will be further away also.
>>489048950>Closest supermarket is 5km from the neighbourhoodIf you don't like it, open your own store. Don't hate on capitalism in a free market.
>>489049242Well you don't need a vehicle, rather you've chosen to live in a nog-resistant area. On the flip side the fact that you can load up your Chevy Suburban with enough food to feed a family of four for two weeks that you can store in your inexpensive and tall refrigerator(s) and chest freezers larger than a coffin really is a luxury that Eurocucks can't afford with expensive cars, expensive gas, tiny refrigerators and little space and costly energy. Imagine if you were within a 10 minute walk of a supermarket- you'd probably drive anyways just to not have to haul that shit home for your family.
>>489061641my health insurance is about $750/mo, not counting dental or long-term disability insurance.
>>489062784Yes I understand the implications. Despite our infrastructure, when public transpiration infrastructure is built, people use it. My city's shit train system has an annual ridership of 85 million. The city is 1.3 million. So I don't think its a lost cause to build this stuff. It even benefits drivers by getting cars off the road.
>>489063235your job sucks mine is $19/month since im a tobacco user otherwise it would be free.
>>489048950>my health insurance is about $750/mo, not counting dental or long-term disability insurance.Don't hate on capitalism in a free market you commie. If you don't like it make your own health insurance.
>>489063364after 27 posts itt you have finally convinced me. lets just do communism.
>>489063235Isn't the free market meant to make things cheaper? Why is heathcare so much better and cheaper here. Proof: our health is better by every metric.
>>489063481>Trains are communismyou have brainrot
>>489048950Cuz you bought into it, NIGGER LEAF
>>489063619>cAnaDIaN HeLF iS BEtT3rwill we have to buy tickets for your faggy trains or do you want them to be free?
>>489048950All you anti car fags act like people want to walk in the rain or snow. Kys yourself
>>489048950then move? is your work completely bound to that location?
>>489064027In most parts of the US it is illegal to build housing closer to the supermarket than that.
>>489062692Yeah I hear you. Avoiding niggers in the place I'm talking about is pretty much impossible, it's over 30% niggers so even the richest neighborhoods see them if they leave, not to mention my neighborhood was across the street from section 8. That's pretty much how it is there to though, if you wanted to go outside the immediate range to something across town you needed to drive or Uber.
>>489048950Are you going to be walking everywhere when you 67?
>>489050485Yup35 min to HEB,I don't consume dollar store shite
>>489063235Post proof
>>489063364>when public transpiration infrastructure is built, people use it.Yeah so? How many will use it? That's the question.I'd speculate that a majority of people would like having more public transit, if said transit would just appear out of thin air for free (and preferably infested with nuggets). The problem is that transit is expensive, rail especially. So communities have to decide whether they want to invest in rapid transit, or something else.When demand for transit is insufficiently high, you enter a death spiral where the service is bleeding so much money you cut costs by reducing service levels (eg fewer trains per day), which causes demand to drop further because who wants to wait around 45 minutes for the train to show up.
>>489063552Canadian healthcare sucks>>489063619He's oversimplifying closer to right than not. Commies love trains.
>>489064314Hopefully.If you can't walk by age 67 you must have really fucked up your health.
>>489064865Stfu retard. Ain't no elderly people walking miles a day for basic necessities in this country. You expect anyone to walk in the rain when it's 35 degrees outside? Faggot
>>489049426>I almost never buy such a small amount of groceries that I would want to carry it home with me even if it was a quarter mile walk.You're talking to single cityfags who have no groceries to buy except processed slop and cat treats
>>489064484You really don't believe me?This premium covers my entire family, by the way. (Wife and children)
>>489065717When someone says stupid shit, your response shouldn't be to say something even more stupid. That's what you did.
>>489066146Nigga what? Cars our a luxury and no one is walking anywhere.
>>489065717>>489066146>35 degrees outsideThat’s cold for my part of Weeniefornia but not other places. The rest of the country has frankly insane temperature swings where you get 105 plus humidity in the summer and -30 and snowing in the winter. Good luck walking outside with either of those going on
>>489052924>AAA estimates the average cost of owning a car is about $10,728 annuallyJust realized what this shit is about. The per diem rate for a fleet vehicle is figured at somewhere around 55 cents per mile driven. The rundown of that number is basically a jewified figure of the cost of fuel, depreciation, normal maintenance and things breaking. But it's also predicated on the dogshit maintenance that fleet vehicles get and degenerate workers driving them like shit.
>>489066599And it's the same sort of math that arrives at the "children cost too much" nonsense.
>>489049426You're probably the size of a small bus, typical american.
>>489053662Cause I'd rather suck your cock and put your ass in my asshole you nigger lover.
>>489057845Who gives a shit what you think? We're comfy fuck off. Why are yuppie liberals so hellbent on making others as miserable as they are? If you like your urban shithole then stay there.
>>489048950>Closest supermarket is 5km from the neighbourhoodSince vehicles are so expensive its better to own a horse.
>>489066899many such cases, unfortunately>199X: eurofaggots start getting more pozzed than they were before>200X: eurofaggots call America a backwards shithole that needs to get with the times and be pozzed like them>201X: this campaign tapers off as basic math and reality (and sandniggers) start to remind them of why America did things a certain way>202X: eurofaggots now claim that America is the source of their poz and we should fight to save them from itMuh buses and muh trains are only the latest iteration of the longer trend
>>489049242I don’t know anyone living in Europe that doesn’t drive to supermarket.
>>489057845Every so often, I see a few crackheads riding homebrew motorized bicycles on my way to work. We have infinite choices but most sane people know cars are the best pick. Even niggers have it figured out, bro.
>>489048950What are the problems and solutions?
>>489069446Problem: Zoning making it illegal for the stores to be in neighbourhoods Solution: Cars
>>489052924>AAA estimates the average cost of owning a car is about $10,728 annually (as of 2023), or $894 per month.wtf my car costs me about £130 a month thats insurance, tax and fuel, it cost 3k and ive only ever had to repair the tyres, wtf is going on here?even if i had a brand new car on lease that would be about 400-450 with everything included and fuel
>>489049205I’ve got Asda, Lidl and Tesco Extra (big tesco) within half a mile and I still get everything delivered. Fuck walking or driving.
Move out of the city retard
>>4890492233 miles is a long walk with a bags of milk
>>489048950So I can have the freedom to drive to your house and rake you, leaf
>>4890725805 km is an hour walk without carrying anything
>>489072890careful now. we'll burn down the white house again
>>489049536don't be a nigger and live in a nigger area, nigger
>>489073012.... What percentage of Americans do you think would be terribly upset about that today
>>489073719Probably 90% If they heard Canada did it
>>489066885most honest Canuckanon
>>489048950Don't bother
>>489062402>Good public transport requires dedicated lanes so it doesn't suffer when the roads get clogged up.>euro explains why euro taxes are so high
>>489060793Well see you live in Britain. American niggers dont live in Britain.
>>489048950>>489049242Even the people who brag about their walkable cities or having all types of restaurants within walking distance are lazy fucks that will use DoorDash or Uber instead of walking a block The most common excuses I hear is they're tired or are on the tenth floor and don't want to go out.
>>489048950I'm more surprised how much companies can fuck up with placement of their stores. Before they went bankrupt, Fresh & Easy was going to to open up a store that was within walking distance of four or five pretty big neighborhoods with no stores nearby. For some reason they opened a different store that was in walking distance to a Kroger in another city.
>>489073848You underestimate americans. We hate our government more than you could imagine. You would be lauded as national heroes. Our government and their lackys in the media pretend like we're all upset about the january 6 tour of the capital but average americans were actually sorta upset that they didn't go in and murder all the politicians. I'm exaggerating a little, but absolutely no one i talked to about it was upset or scared in any way, more excited and hopeful.
>>489053662That's some 1800s shitAt this poit start a garden kek