Where would the fronts be? And who would be victorious? In what ways would the world change?
>>489051805It would be fake and gay because most of NATO has no real military anymore.I want the WW3 I was promised in the 80s, damn it! Russian tank divisions pouring through the Fulda Gap. Nuclear subs hunting each other under the Arctic ice cap. Backfire regiments killing carriers and convoys with hails of antiship missiles in the North Atlantic. All we get is this fake and gay bullshit.
>>489052394>most of NATO has no real military anymoreThis is a blatant KGB lie. You can literally look up the troop and equipment numbers online. NATO outnumbers Russia in both troops and tanks and other vehicles, especially aircraft by a lot.
>>489051805It would be absolutely brutal. Ports and Major Cities would be destroyed virtually overnight, and you don't need Nukes to do that. Internet would defitienly go or face major disruption, GPS would be gone as satalittes would be taken out or jammed. I think the West would turn into a 1984 hellsacpe where new and information only comes from the Government and there is nothing to verify it since the internet would be gone. Mass mobilization, The front would be on almost every continent, but I very much doubt the US would try a land war against China again, it would be naval and aviation based along with Japan. Shipping would come to halt, there would be rationing in many countries, the old will be left to die, the young sent to the front. It would not last 4 or 5 years, probably 2 or 3 but the devastation would be eye watering.
>>489051805There won’t be tanks for sure, retarded boomer coffins
>>489051805define 'war'.
>>489051805Probably a lot of destruction in the first weeks and after that it'll go back to boring old trench warfare. Expect a lot of money being poured into automation because women just can't shit out enough soldiers for the meat grinder.
>>489052653The clear bias towards Ukraine in the MSM was just a taste of what it would be like in a war scenario, it would be full on propaganda day and night, WW3 started the second Russia decided to Invade, the West won't back down.
We would lose because our productive capacity is in China. We can't churn out the equipment today like we did in ww2
>>489051805everyone will be busy hunting down their traitorous government niggers who ruined everything
>>489051805Things will get more expensive. Something blows up in ukraine and all of a sudden the price of sugar goes up. Something else blows up in ukraine and then cars will suddenly be taxed double, or some shit like that.Chances of bombs dropping everywhere and full blown apocalypse is practically zero.Lotta fearporn and taxes.
>>489052653Glad that my country will decent into a Cartel civil war recruiting millions of unemployed people and not get involved into anything of the world escenario as usual.
>>489051805>What exactly would a full scale WW3 look like?Like this. And then it would be over.
>>489051805>world war>brics vs western superpowers>brazil will bring the flipflops>russia will still be stuck in the trench>india realising the BWC is superior and kneels out>china will zerg rush across the sea to taiwan and be sunk half a mile out when the filipino fishing vessels take revenge>ethiopia will steal another boat with containers on it with somalia>egypt will fear having it's tourism fucked by western people never going there again >the UAE isn't that dumb.
>>489052534Ok but half the military is trannies.
>>489051805Putin would be missile'd and russia would collapse into warlord states within a few months after trying to zerg poland with what few forces they could scrap off of ukraine. Ukraine gets flooded with NATO troops, eventually zig defenses are eradicated and are pushed back and out. Crimea may or may not be retaken, depending on the mood.China throws waves of landing ships across to Taiwan and 90% of them die at sea. Chinese '''navy''' destroyed. China sues for peace because they can't achieve any of their objectives anymore.Ultimately modern war goes faster then ever with precision missiles so it'll be over within 2-3 years max if retards don't deathwar over it, but honestly I can't see the Chinks landing anyone on the US and the US landing anyone on Chinkland so it'll just end with maybe some islands like hainan or those ROC ones 3 miles from shore changing hands in terms of china. North Korea starves to death and either becomes even shittier or collapses and gets put into some sort of reconstruction mandate, if they bother to get involved at all.Some middle eastern nations (Iran + Syria_ zerg rush Israel. Maybe have some initial success but when the carrier groups get over there they fail. Iranian regime has always been kinda rocky so there's a good chance they collapse if they don't back off.Balkans will actually be fine because serbia isn't m enough to start shit.South america is fine unless maduro pulls a based retard and gets deposed. Cuba is fine unless they indicate they're going against america and get invaded.North america is fine.Africa erupts into some proxy wars that no one really cares about. Keeps going after WW3 ends because no one cares enough to stop them.
>>489051805>WW3 begins>3 hours later, Uruguay is reverted to CisplatinaAnd faggot argies better not complain about it, remember what we did to Paraguay.
>>489052534Kek. That’s paper strength. What they can put in the field is a different story.The UK has about 200 Challenger 2 tanks on paper. The head of the army admitted that only 80 of them could be made combat worthy - if they had 90 days advance notice. The rest have been cannibalized for parts. Oh, and all their ballistic missile subs are in port indefinitely because they put off maintenance until they were too dangerous to keep sailing.The Luftwaffe was recently down to two Eurofighters capable of actually flying combat missions. TWO. And the German tank force isn’t in any better shape than the UK’s.European NATO has spent decades whittling down their forces and neglecting what was left until they are largely a paper tiger. Then youve got the ex-Soviet client states still mostly equipped with Soviet hardware. God only knows how much of that is actually still functioning.Oh, and a lot of those numbers, like for Poland, includes hardware that isn’t scheduled to be delivered for years. It’s all fake and gay.
Syria/IraqUkraine/Baltic/Poland/ScandinaviaKorea DMZ/Taiwanthat's all that would happen
>>489051805There would probably be no satellites or undersea cables left intact on day 2. So to answer your question, pretty good.
>>489053551>Ultimately modern war goes faster then ever with precision missiles so it'll be over within 2-3 years maxConsensus back in the early 80s when everyone was cranking out and stockpiling was that both sides would burn through their supplies of cruise missiles and PGMs in 30 days of intense fighting. We stopped producing a lot of that stuff in the 90s and shut down most of the factories. What we do still make is slow and only in small quantities. Raytheon had to pull in retired Boomers to work on their Tomahawk line because the institutional knowledge to make them was gone.Then you’ve got platforms like the B-2, where they haven’t made new ones in decades and the tooling is gone, so if they run out of spare parts they have to figure out how to fabricate jury-rigged replacements.It’s all fake and gay.
>>489054028> There would probably be no satellites or undersea cables left intact on day 2.And LEO will be so full of debris that it will take decades before any satellites could be safely replaced.
>>489053171The cartel is the US gov, guey
>>489052869How fucked do you think we'll get for wrongspeak?Also, do you think the brits/NATO will commandeer Ireland?
>>489055136I’m wondering if /pol/ would still even exist in the event of a world war
>>489051805Prior to any type of nuclear exchange there will be massive cyber attacks. Our electric grid will be destroyed along with other infrastructure attacks. Front lines will be your own location fending off the hoards of unprepared, starving and feral city dwellers. No one will "win". In the best case it will take a hundred years or more to return to normal. Although there is a possibility it will never return to normal.
>>489054546LEO will be filled with trillions of ball bearings and will require intentional cleanup to ever be used again.
>>489055345Well yeah, that, but I'm thinking IRL
It's going to be fine, Elon musk is going to conquer space and the whole military landscape is going to change.. you'll see
Limited version (no nuclear warfare) : Military vets get recalled, since birth rates have cratered around the developed world and therefore a lack of aged 18-25 men fit for service exists. Rationing. New developments of technology to increase old fart’s abilities in combat ; soon afterwards AI controlled robotic killing machines take over, which get rid of boots on the ground. Nuclear war (total war) : Human extinction.
>>489051805>Where would the fronts be? And who would be victorious? In what ways would the world change?Honestly we wouldn't really know because the electric grid would be taken out on all sides first.For us peasants, our lifeline will be military sites setup for people who haven't died from starvation and disease.
>>489051805World war three will be fought by million of fake AI personas through a decade long information war to establish "concensus"... Ever wondered how there is so many crazy lgbtq people online, but virtually none in real life?
Glowniggers very busy today. Guess they have to kick it off before everyone checks out. See what goyim they rally up that still believe their kike bs
>>489054342fucking kek, we're already in the cyberpunk era.
>>489056354>AI controlled robotic killing machines
>>489052869I don’t really understand your complaint here. Wartime propaganda always has each side painting themselves as the good guys. No one is going to go into it saying “yeah by the way, we know we’re the bad guys” because that’s how all of your soldiers and people get demoralized and you lose a war lol. Not sure what you think the purpose of wartime propaganda is. Propaganda can be used for good purposes, and all nations have probably been guilty of it during times of war.
>>489051805It would look like a mass mobilization of white males done through a "random draft lottery" which was rigged all along to enlist specific individuals. Its how kikes win after 80 years of lies and real politik.
>>489052869>the west wont back downThe west is not united on this issue, hence, the trump presidency and dissent within eu
>>489051805A radioactive pile of ash
>>489051805People in the west would probably shoot their own officers and soldiers. Then escape. They can’t make us fight for the politicians who put us into ww3 lol
>>489052534Faggot leftists aren’t a military, death to the libshit WEST. Total Liberal Death!!!
>>489052534>especially aircraft by a lotlooks like a lot of the aircraft is piloted by women now... are you really going to trust your military with that?imagine she's getting tracked by a missile and then for a moment she thinks about chad's dick and how it's like a missile then she messes up and gets hit by the missile that was tracking
>>489051805Everyone dies in the first few hours and whoever is alive mad maxes in the ruins hunting and killing anyone associated with the government or the military.
>>489057157There is nothing to equip this “mass mobilization” with. Not in Europe. Not in the US. Unless you’re going to relight WW1, there’s absolutely no point.And before you could get them mobilized and through basic, whoever was losing would have gone nuclear anyway.
>>489052534Even if the paper were reality (it isn't) the industrial capacity alone ensures a big fat loss in conventional warfare. Just imagine current year females making artillery shells that would never go anywhere because the entire shipping industry is crippled due to critical parts being manufactured in China/Taiwan.
>>489052394NATO has over 3 million active troops and that is with most countries having volunteer armies. This does not include mercs and paramilitary units.Russian industrial capability is dwarfed by NATO. Russia just has the edge with already being in a war economy.
>>489051805100M drones and 10M missiles/monthzero tank zero human
>>489052653I.hope we make it through Potato man.
>>489058455t. The increasingly desperate Jens Stoltenberg
>>489051805WW3 started in 2024
>>489058455>Russian industrial capability is dwarfed by NATO. Yeah factor out the outsourcing bud. You really believe the other Bric's are going to be slaving away to feed NATO? Lmao.
>>489058878>Russia has more men and resources than Ukraine, this is why Ukraine loses>NATO has more men and resources than Russia but that does not count this time
>>489051805https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kbkysPTnHcWORLD WAR 3 IS CLOSER THAN YOU THINK. RUSSIA HAS JUST READIED THEIR NUKES.
>>489051805No one will win. We will all die when this happens
>>489052653it's like you haven't even been watching the war in Ukraine. russian can't even, so how will they fight nato?
>>489059085Any other conclusion is delusional
>>489058991Half of BRICS is a complete meme anyway. Who cares about Brazil and South Africa?China and India have active border escalations. Both of these countries are more about playing both sides than supporting Russia fully.
>>489052394I love zigger cope
>>489051805nukes or no nukes?
>>489051805>Where would the fronts be?dynamic>And who would be victorious?jews>In what ways would the world change?better place for jews, worse for everyone else
>>489058991>BRICSLOLSAVE ME AFRICA AND HUEMONKEYS!
>>489059276Brazil will support Russia if we get Russian mandated wives
>>489051805Virtually all missiles, artillery, drones. Probably chemical warfare after it becomes clear that having your gay tranny soldiers pursuing the bomb button isn’t enough to win. Jews false flag a nuke in one of our countries to try and get their third temple.
>>489058455>NATO has over 3 million active troopsOn paper. How many of those are American troops locked into other theaters like Korea? How many of them are combat troops as opposed to Diversity Guidance or Pregnancy and Transition Counseling staff? NATO forces are horribly bloated with this crap.How many of them actually have the equipment specified in their TOE?How much of that equipment actually works?NATO’s militaries are rotted out from decades of neglect, and the stuff that was in reserve and easy to refurbish is already in Ukraine.Not that the Russians are in better shape, but thinking that NATO forces bear any resemblance to what they were in the 90s is simply ludicrous.
>>489059476>USALMAO CAN'T EVEN BEAT HOUTHI SANDNIGGERS LMAO!
>>489059856HOLY BASED
>>489051805China and its satellites vs US and its satellites - question is if India would join in on the fun ans harass China or sit on the fence while China is distracted and vulnerable...
>muh woke militaryNo (you) for this zigger.You can look up the unit information yourself. Lists of units like brigades are official unless it is glownigger units.It is a pretty big stretch to assume that over half of NATO soldiers are actual DEI hires.Imagine unironically putting faith into Russian equipment but assuming NATO has no equipment standard whatsoever. Why don't you follow your shill friends and bring up Afghanistan? This is at least actual cope with some substance to it.The only thing NATO struggles with is switching to a war time economy since Russia is already in one.
>>489051805A lot less ipressive now. Unless some desperate fuck decided to push the button
>>489051805What's full scale supposed to mean? When does it become full scale?Fullest scale starts with a complete nuclear exchange, basically everybody shooting everything they got to kill everybody.Only then does any real fighting start, or not, because politiniggers are dead and nobody gives a shit about them, in fact they may be lynched. Depends whether they have any real power structure left.You think someone exchanges a couple nukes then builds up their army for a few years to invade them?Nah, rather you turn ALL the enriched Uranium you have stockpiled into an extra 15000 warheads and make the enemy's land uninhabitable.
>>489058986>WW3 started in 2014ftfy
Anything that could truly be considered WW3 would result in the complete destruction of vast populations within at most two years.Once a nuclear exchange escalates it only ends with the complete destruction of one side, obviously. Why would you leave someone alive after using strategic nukes on you?Any major nuclear power is entirely within their rights to respond to attacks from other nuclear states with nuclear weapons preemptively, because it must be assumed they are also using nuclear weapons.>let's just wait until those ballistic and cruise warheads have hit our military infrastructure before responding okay great plan!>let's just provoke the enemy into using nukes first by pretending to do a nuclear first strike 5D chess!That's precisely why the Cold War remained an utterly cold war, without a single missile fired on the others territory.
>>489052793>women just can't shit out enough soldiers for the meat grinderUNLESS they are immediately put into barns, where they will be bred and milked to the full extent of efficiency granted by human Zootechnics, and then unceremoniously disposed of with a pneumatic needle when their bodies are spent and unproductive.
>>489052534they dont, they use america for there army. without america NATO is nothing. america doesnt even benefit from being in NATO we just contribute army and money into it while getting nothing in return
I think world war is already happening but not with land invasions or the like, at least on the global scale.Nah, it's digital warfare that is happening and has been happening for years.
>>489065641Rather it's a multi-dimensional war against mankind.>globalist race to the bottom>weaponized psychology>ultimate propaganda polarization>artificial scarcity>consumption maximization>effective tax rate: 80%Someone could add it to Goku powering up.
>>489062403This is a must read for the actual state of the UK militaryhttps://committees.parliament.uk/oralevidence/12834/pdf/Challengers, NLAWs, Starstreak. It’s a total shit show.Then there’s thishttps://euro-sd.com/2024/04/articles/37547/the-challenge-ahead-for-germanys-armed-forces/> During the Berlin Security Conference in November 2023, the Inspector of the Army described the drawing up of large formations from the current basic structure as “a nightmare for every troop commander”. Neither Germany nor any other European NATO member currently has the necessary support forces for the corps level. Only three of the twelve Bundeswehr field army divisions remain, though they were considered necessary for credible conventional deterrence and defence until 1990. Moreover, one of these three remaining army divisions is not scheduled to be ready for defence and deployment until 2025, and another until 2027Germany’s readiness? Kekhttps://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/the-bad-news-bundeswehr-an-examination-of-the-truly-dire-state-of-germany-s-military-a-df92eaaf-e3f9-464d-99a3-ef0c27dcc797> For example, the books show that the Bundeswehr possesses more than 300 Leopard 2 battle tanks. Around two-thirds of them are "available," but of that number, just 60 percent – around 130 – are operational.> Of the various helicopter models belonging to the navy, just 30 percent at most were available in mid-November, as were a third of the military’s ancient Tornado fighter jets and just over half of its Marder infantry fighting vehicles. Only half of the CH-53 heavy transport helicopters, also ancient, are operational. Just a shade more than half of the Bundeswehr’s Panzerhaubitze 2000 self-propelled guns are available, two thirds of its frigates and half of its submarines.TL;DR, Europe is fucked.
>>489067084>universal subscription>wealth gatekeeping>landlord social class>social class of young global leaders(tm)>universal conscription>meat wave of glorious martyrs>fast-track environmentalist depopulation>private nations
>>489067435You can't even use the word "readiness".Ready for what? Mildly frustrating some sand people doing a civil war? That might work.Defend the land from mythological alien invaders or the like (like Russians)? lollmao
>>489051805Russia is not going to allow US missiles to be fired into Russia and not do anything about it. Most likely Russia will retaliate in kind and hit US bases in europe with conventional missiles and then wait for the US response. If the US fires more conventional missiles at Russia eventually Russia will have to use tactical nukes.
I predict WWIII would be extremely gay and nonsensical, and would barely register as a war. So we're already in it.
>>489064407>What's full scale supposed to mean?Full scale means that Russia is not going to sell you any more gas and that you are going to freeze this winter (good riddance). Also Russia and China will most likely take control of middle eastern oil fields in case of war and just starve out the rest of the world if it thinks it wants to side with the US and Europe.
>>489062403Retard, most of mato will sit out a war, you think Italians are going to go die in Russia? or the Spanish? or any nation close to Russia except poland?
>>489067920This makes me wonder... how North Korean or Iranian nuclear submarine technology is faring now.Maybe Chinese too, but they had it mostly figured out.Seems conceivable to me that NK could suddenly "develop" advanced ballistic missiles submarines and the accompanying missiles, and started producing an entire fleet of them.That would be quite amusing.>everybody fucked
>>489051805>Russia having a frontline across Europe.
>>489068298>and that you are going to freeze this winterWe have gas storage that will last until next year, so no.But obviously it would become a problem in 2025.>time to use brown coal again RIP
>>489053171The cartels would collapse as no one has any money for drugs.
>>489051805Everything in the US comes from China. War with China would stop that trade. There would be severe shortages in everything.
>>489068641What would happen to China?
>>489051805there will be no WW3, but a second cold warthis escalation is for trumpstein and putin to de esaclete further when Mctrump is inauguratedthe Ukrained Eurostan will become literal third world with jewish and muslim kaliphaates here and there with private armies of nigger and hohols patrolling the eurocuck serfs
>>489068696Dunno. I don't live there. I live here. The kinds of shortages we would have would make everything impossible. Much of our food is domestic, but its manufacture and distribution depend on Chinese imports.
>>489059099Russia is only using less than a fraction of their real capabilities, an all out War with NATO would be very different, the first thing to go would be communications and that would be internet cables, satellites, there would be jamming across Europe, your GPS will no longer work. Then there would be strategic strikes against ports namely Antwerp and Hamburg, The War In Europe would be over before it began, because the simple fact is, Europe no longer has the industrial capacity to wage a conventional war at the level required.
>>489051805It would just be nukes.It would be over in 20 minutes.
>>489067857Of you read the PDF I posted on the UK, there is a huge amount of weasel-wording over “availability” of the Challengers.Chair: We actually have 227 main battle tanks, Challengers 1 and 2— James Heappey: The question was what was available.Chair: Exactly, but my point is: if you recognise what is coming over the hill and that the threat picture is changing, maybe all 227 should be upgraded to Challenger 3.Derek Twigg: Where are the other 70?James Heappey: Fourteen of them have been gifted.Derek Twigg: Fourteen from 70, then.James Heappey: The remainder, I suspect, are at extended readinessmostly, probably, having been cannibalised to sustain the other 157. Derek Twigg: So they are never going to be—James Heappey: There is no plan to upgrade them or use them again. Derek Twigg: So the max we can stick out is 157.James Heappey: Exactly. Well, that is the amount— Derek Twigg: So 227 is really an irrelevant figure.James Heappey: That is the full inventory of Challenger 2, but there has been a lot of cannibalisation that started well over a decade ago.Mr Francois: We have some other dozens in deep storage behind the 227, Minister.James Heappey: But I suspect they have now been cannibalised. Challenger 2 is now such an old platform that, in a lot of cases, there isn’t a spares chain, so the cannibalisation is the best way to sustain them.Mr Francois: You have basically told the Committee that we have got 157 Challengers that are ready to fight tonight. Is that right?James Heappey: No, I said available.Mr Francois: Sorry, you said, “I have given you a really clear answer. They are available.” So this is starting to sound like sophistry. What does “available” mean?James Heappey: “Available” means on operations or at R5 or better, and R5 is 30 days’ notice.Derek Twigg: You used the word “deployable” as well, Minister. James Heappey: No, I used “available”.
>>489051805A bunch of jews kvetching on the internet as NATO and the western hegemony collapse as they are laughed off stage by a bunch of camel jockeys with RPGs.
>>489051805>Where would the fronts be? Eastern Europe and the Baltics, and Arctic and Northern Fronts, if China gets involved the pacific.>And who would be victorious?Nobody, the elite/jews maybe, nukes will be used, eastern europe would disappear, Germany and surroundings would be a key target so expect middle Europe to be very damaged in terms of Infrastructure and an insane economic european crisis. USA would probably get a simmilar treatment as Germany in terms of destruction but would face less economic crisis imo, satellites and communication infrastructure destroyed for sure so enjoy suicides and cannibalism for a while, MAD would absolutley destroy all important economic, technologic and social dense hubs. Its either USA wins at the cost of everything and the whole world would likely enter a prolonged period of recovery or stalemate just because the vast territory of Russia and possible china implication
>>489052653If it's an all out war, it'll be over in a month. Nukes will kill most of the people in the cities. The remaining people will be finished off with bioweapons.
>>489054546And that's a good thing.
>>489051805It would look very bad for people, then it would suddenly and viciously look very bad for the elite, one would hope.
>>489058209>And before you could get them mobilized and through basic, whoever was losing would have gone nuclear anyway.The drafted would have killed all the draft officers by dinner time.
>>489051805>What exactly would a full scale WW3 look like?my penis going in and out of your mouf minus the warts lint and turd chunks.
>>489051805For most slavewagies like me, pic related.
>>489059856why do you want gold diggers?and they age like shit
>>489070522That’s most likely true. I don’t see drafts going well anywhere.
>>489070522lol, why aren't ukrainians and russians doing that then?
>>489051805It would probably be a cross between the books Ghost Fleet, Team Yankee, and Bloody Mary. Team Yankee the most.
>>489070767Thank goodness for steam offline mode
>>489071704>he doesn’t know about EMP
>>489071255Probably because they're A: used to being slaves, and B: disarmed by the state.
>>489071827Wrapping my computer in tinfoil smarty
>>489071863They’re lured in by those white panel vans with “Free Vodka” painted on the sides
you'll see
>>489051805Women are going to fight WW3Everyone relaxBrave
>>489061142It was real in your head thirdie lol
>>489069635Kek...Morocco has 200+ abrahms m1
>>489074674Neither the UK nor Germany can field a single fully equipped division.
The militaries of the nations are at a much lower readiness level than at any time in history. That includes nuclear.
>>489053257BRICS is not an military alliance pathetic paki mongrel
If WW3 breaks out, all goyim countries will immediately send all weapons to israel (our greatest ally) so goyim countries would be eradicated in 72 hours but hopefully israel (our greatest ally) will be safe
>>489051805Pretty sure we can't really have a proper ww3, it'll just be rockets flying all over the place while the weaker countries surrender or stay out of it
>>489052898More like organized bands of nafris, niggers and gypsies will turn to banditry, cannibalism and rape. Thousands of such bands will come out from France and Germany and ravage Europe just like the Huns.
>>489077170Thirty Years War on instant replay!
>What exactly would a full scale WW3 look like?these against usguess how it will end
>>489077245>Be Habsburg royalty>Hey, Kroatien, we need half of your population to be militarized effective immediately!>To fight the Turks, right?>Right?
>>489051805china would symbolically support russia with empty gestures while russia and nato nuked each other.
>>489077265>drops an EMP in your pathPssh. Nothin' personnel.
>>489078195emps dont exist as nukes dont exist
>>489078589And neither does Chinese military """technology."""
>>489052394>Russian tank divisions pouring through the Fulda GapWith what tanks?
>>489051805>What exactly would a full scale WW3 look like?Standby. Hold my beer.
>>489067435Didn't know it was this bad. Kek, it's already over.
>>489077265>fag scared about some little birds
>>489079067Hence why I said this WW3 is fake and gay.
>>489051805Let's find out by praying to KƎK for a promt acceleration
>>489057850AI image
>>489078851drones definitely existjust look at the war in ukraine
