just posting here because I dont want to keep a thread up for a whole week on adv or biz why do employers pretend that jobs are hard? for example CNC is just measuring a metal block, putting it in a jig and turning the machine on and then measuring again. its not even slightly hard or involved. 2 weeks to be proficient max.Not posting to complain, but please let me know workarounds or key words I can use. Amazon pays $20/hr and CNC is like $24 to start but I would prefer something skilled to actually learn and have room to grow.
>>489052789based fuck bureaucrats
>>489052789>Not posting to complain, but please let me know workarounds or key words I can use. Amazon pays $20/hr and CNC is like $24 to start but I would prefer something skilled to actually learn and have room to grow.Why not just take the cushy 24$ hr CNC job and spend the rest of your brainpower on personal development?
>>489052789Have you tried crime?
>>489052939based? I have no job lmao. bureaucrats? those people run everything, being against them is useless, I want to get on their good side and get to work
>>489053061CNC is the skilled job that I cant get
>>489053090have fun negotiating with these twats>>489053075>>489053061
>>489053090Goyslave
>>489052789because jews make it impossible to get hired or hire locally
You need to differentiate hard from tedious. Something like McDonalds is tedious, anyone can do it but it sucks. Hard is something your average person is incapable of, and trust me there's lots of people too dumb to get the basics of running a CNC machine. If you want "hard work" find your intellectual limit and try to push it.
>>489053189no bully
>>489052789>>489052939the common fault between basedboi nu-commies and bureaucratic aristocrats is that they both assume the retarded to be smarter and more capable than they really are.if all the workhorses are busy chewing carrots on the beach, the pigs will churn all the grassy fields into mud, and the crops will wither.the freeroaming "everyone can do everything" politics really only fits with the huntergather lifestyle and collapses in on itself when applied to organized society.
>>489053149Nigger you literally just said that its easy.>"why do employers pretend that jobs are hard? for example CNC is just measuring a metal block, putting it in a jig and turning the machine on and then measuring again. its not even slightly hard or involved. 2 weeks to be proficient max."My implication was that you get the stupid certification and then take the job.CNC slopper doesn't require a degree. Just get certified in your state.
>>489052789>why do employers pretend that jobs are hard?They aren't but it usually takes time to gain experience where you can work fully unsupervised and letting you learn everything on the job is just too expensive without the certainty of ROI and the possibility that you can leave anytime.
>>489053355the tools of industry have already been constructed, dont ever expect the descendants of the normans to be incapable of operating any technology
>>489053439its an easy job that is hard to get, I dont have 8 weeks or money to spend on a cert
>>489053477>expensiveno single industry is integral to the survival of modern society
Any job can be taught on site by and to a white or perhaps a decent asian. But then the useless cunts in diploma mill universities would be oit of their job
>>489053477regarding experience: it's simply practical knowledge that you can't find in any books because it's so specialized that or niche that no one bothered to put it into a book. Or it can also be very cutting edge/short lived that there was no time to put it into a book.
>>489052789I work as a dump truck driver for an asphalt company and I had no idea those guys took in that kind of money. Owner made 40k on a 3 day job a while back, yeah there’s expenses and all but he’s probably taking home at least half of that. But yeah getting in as a laborer for paving/cement/landscaping companies is a pretty easy “skilled trade”, don’t need all that apprenticeship and license shit. I’d also recommend getting your CDL, all it takes is 6 weeks of school and pissing clean.
>>489052789CNC machines are easy when everything is running smoothly. When your 1/850 of a mm off in vector and the oils coming its spurts its going to filter the vast majority workforce. Most jobs are easy however and usually well paying ones too. The vast majority of city office high earners would be humbled hard by a 3 week stint in a factory warehouse. I certainly was. Some still use 1980 software because its been too much hassle to upgrade for 40 years. Job interviews are a humiliation ritual. What makes you think I can do this job? I could train anyone off the street to do it in 6 hours MAX.
>>489053319>hard is only mentalTell everyone how white you are. You wouldn’t last a day working the bbq pit in Texas summer. Even Jordan Peterson said picking out a few different letters on pages of the same letters was a form of iq test, fucking retard
>>489054101I get what youre saying but if im training and run into problems I would simply pause the machine and ask somebody for assistance
>>489054087Also linesmen get paid great, get your CDL, OSHA 70, and take a first aid course and apply at your local union. You have to do the apprenticeship shit but even they get paid like 30$ an hour plus unlimited overtime from what I’ve heard. Especially if you don’t have kids, go for it
>>489053525I'm not doubting the continued existence of the huntergather, but the continued existence of the realm that made him the way he is,- because the farmers make his job easier, and his body weaker.the beehive encroaches on the bear.
>>489052789Because that CNC job involes somebody training your ass for a few days, so you know how to put the block into the jig properly, which buttons to press on the machine etc. And that costs the business money, so they prefer somebody who already knows how to do that already.
>>489052789Because when your dumbass makes a mistake on a CNC machine it's a few hundred dollar mistake, minimum. If you're working with aluminum or similar it could easily approach four digits of complete loss. Labor is the cheap part, materials are expensive and business operators want competent individuals to not total loss materials.
>>489054293Oh yea operating a cnc machine is very easy monkey work. Thats different to being CNC qualified. The threshold for operator work is handling phenomenal boredom.
>>489052789You should probably get a degree if you want a high paying job
>>489052789There's levels to most jobs. Putting raw material in a machine and hitting the green button is barely level 1. Can you write programs? Make fixtures?
>>489054293>I would simply pause the machine and ask somebody for assistanceThis used to be my job. I would have to stop whatever I was doing to go babysit some retard who in all likelihood was making the same amount of money as me all the while thinking of themselves as "competent".
most professions are just scams. Their goal is to kill the supply to increase prices. Truck drivers, teachers, physicians, nurses, lawyers, financial advisors, economists, pilots, cops, plumbers, hairstylist, and many more they all scam u with the help of the government, Cant wait for AI to fire them
>>489053545>I dont have 8 weeksYes you do, you putrid fucking nigger.>or moneyGet a wagecuck job for a short period of time, just enough to cover the cert.I'm not saying the boomer "bootstraps" meme.But you seriously are playing the victim card here, HARD.
>>489052789you just described the literal push button monkey, not a skilled actual machinist. A machinist can for example use the CNC to produce the rough part and then file and scrape it BY HAND to extreme tolerances. Sometimes a push button monkey is enough but sometimes an actual machinist is needed, it is what it is.
>>489054248why would anyone work in the bbq (barbeque) pit in texas summer? texas winter exists for a reason I presume, you gotta be an idiot or at least a retard to subject yourself to inhuman conditions.
>>489054876a few grands is literally nothing in actual CNC shop money traffic, a fly's shit (can't be even seen) like we say here
>>489052789>We need three years experience for somebody who washes floors>Oops, can't find one I guess we will need to import more migrants or hire women to check off the DEI boxes!>This jeet says he has 50 years experience, he's a hard worker hire him! Even if you lie and say you got 5 years under your belt they still wont hire you for being white.
>>489056404Yeah, but if you had one guy you could hire that would make you an extra 5k a year without making a mess for anyone to clean up, wouldn't that be the logical option? Also, that is just in material loss, not lost time for the machine or the time it takes to fix your mistakes. How much does a CNC machine produce in a hour on average?
>>489057341They don't care if the one white guy will make them more money, they want to brag to their friends about how not racist they are and get gov kickbacks for having 80% migrants on the team.
I have been in the trades for ten years. I recommend the big five, construction, electrical, HVACR, plumbing, auto mechanic(im a backwoods mechanic no formal training). Those are the trades worth a shit, everything else is a meme. Glass window guys, roofers, power washers (lmao), Comcast dudes, useless, you learn nothing. Landscaping can be fun as well, but only very short term.Construction, I would stick to residential because I found it a lot more fun, everything else go for commercial. If you are looking into HVACR or electrical, avoid doing install, you want to be a tech. HVACR exposes you to more trades. Electrical is generally easy, easier on your body, boring ass work though. Construction can be hard on your body, you just have to take car of yourself. Stretch, lift correctly, your body will be fine. I'll answer questions if you have any
thanks for the (relevant) comments on this. I have come to the conclusion that I am much more unqualified than I give myself credit for. I am going to try my best and figure something out, God willing
>>489059284Am I too old to be starting as a 30 year old neet trade master?
>>489060255If you are genuinely asking memeflag, no. What you would do is lie on your resume if you have the balls. If I were you, I would find the trade I want to be in, study for a month, buy the tools, say you have two years experience, and just do it. Look up the average hourly near you, ask for two bucks more. Or, you get into a company who will train you for six months, get a handle of how the trade works, not the actual work but the inner workings of it, then leave that company when you feel comfortable for another one. Then you lie and say you have two years experience.There is a dude I trained who was 31 when he first started, came from being some manager at Coca Cola. Trade work is a good example of easy to learn, hard to master.
