Ex-Soviet generals acknowledged in the 90s that even at USSR's "peak" in the 70s-80s they would have lost a NATO-Warsaw Pact conflict. So if they couldn't even win at the top of their game, modern Russia is...
>>489055523>it was real in my head
>>489055523NATO and USA is much weaker today than in the 70s and 80s.today EU and USA Militaries are filled with niggers, troons and woman.this is why Russia would win.
>>489055523>Ex-Soviet generals acknowledged in the 90s that even at USSR's "peak" in the 70s-80s they would have lost a NATO-Warsaw Pact conflictLmao, yeah sure.
>>489055523>they totally acknowledged it bro
>we'd win guys trust me
>>489055851>NATO and USA is much weaker today than in the 70s and 80s.yesand we'd still push russia's shit inhell, ukraine is just getting our leftovers and it's stopped russia for three years
>>489055523No way in a million years. NATO at the time was in complete shambles with the comined European forces basically being 4 downies with brooms and the US had just got it's ass handed to it in Vietnam.
>>489056173>and we'd still push russia's shit inYou just lost to the houthi's though?
>>489056173Only because Russia CHOSE to be stopped. They could steamroll Ukraine but it would come at a huge cost to civilian lives, Ukraine would be completely depopulated and land unfertile
I have some respect for Russia and Russians, but they were never going to beat us militarily. Fuck they would have lost to Germany if not for us and we have way more people than the krauts did.
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>>489056302Didn't the houthis just surrender and disband right after Trump was elected?
>>489056799>I have some respect for RussiaWhy?
>>489056173>ukraine is just getting our leftovers
>>489056858They were also fighting on two front my regicidal ww1 starting friend.
>>489055523Why the fuck would you even compare a single nation with an alliance of multiple similar nations and a superpower with more budjet than all the others combined on top of it?Go ahead and let us fight bongs or frogs 1v1, and let US fight China if they want.
>>489056994Because I'm not a jew or a boomer.
>>489057007>fighting on two fronts... against UK. lmao!
>>489057032>US fight ChinaChina wins there
>>489057058Gonna need you to be more specific than that. What is there about russia to respect? The corruption? The poverty? The endless cope and lies?
>>489057032>let us fight bongs or frogsCrimean war 2 incoming.
>>489055523...powered by China
>>489057112We kicked them out of Italy and France too. Maybe you thought the British did that. Either way the krauts would have beat Russia.
>>489056173but you are obese and vax maxed you cant push anyones shit in.
>>489057333Nobody ever successfully invaded Russia from the west. It is geographically impossible
>>489057133They have a long history. Some of it was glorious. Also it takes some gumption to charge machine gun nests without a rifle.
>>489057416Poland did.
>>489057503I don't think suicide is something we should be glorifying.
>>489057559No. It didn't
>>489055523They were confident they could win if they managed to bait americans into following a strategic retreat on first Elbe, then Oder-Neisse and then Vistula. The point was to put up a fight on each od these lines and really force the issue on 3rd. Then a naval assault on Pomerania would let them endanger already attritioned NATO's flank and counterattack. This is why countries like Poland, which had no business having marine units had them.Obviously anyone who knows anything about how NATO saw it knows that they wanted the Soviets to come to them through the Fulda Gap and there fight them off in a gigantic armoured engagement.Since both sides wanted to make use of defenders advantage the most likely scenario for cold war going hot, but conventional is probably company-level skirmishes over technical stalemate.
>>489056173>ukraine is just getting our leftoversSure thing bro. We didnt wanna win anyway, right? Just slow them down. That's a strategic goal worth sacrificing a unipolar world for.
I’m not going to war against the entire European continent with the intention of winning. What kind of objective could he even have ? Destroy lodon destroy Berlin destroy Warsaw and every other capital ? You think he thinks he can occupy ? He’s waiting for trump to offer peace to ukis and ruskies any premature action would be regarded. It’s literally impossible to achieve victory without the next American administration putting pressure on nato countries to ceed land and accept peace. Dark Brandon. Joe Biden or fucking nothing.
>>489055851Nah, today's the inverse of the 70s. Burger combat readiness was at rock bottom after the Vietnam War and the M60 literally couldn't compete against the T64 and T80. The only thing that would've kept burgers in the fight pre Abrams is TOW and Dragon (lol). And that's not mentioning the similarly dubious MBTs of other NATO powers of the era like the AMX 30 and Leo 1. Only the Chieftain really comes away looking good.We're not at the zenith of NATO dominance and they're resting on their laurels militarily but NATO is still winning the tech arms race by far, arguably even more than the Soviets were in the 70s
>>489056799>they would have lost to Germany if not for usWe've now given more to Ukraine, inflation adjusted, than we gave to the USSR. Interesting fact no? In fact Ukraine is the best funded, armed, commanded and Intel'd proxy army in history now.
>>489057503>They have a long history.A long a shit history thats mostly just a respite of their embarrassing performance in ukraine now. Whats to respect? Seems like you just respect the soviet union in ww2? The USSR does not equal russia. Thats a mistake that russia itself now makes to its own determent.
>>489057589Sure it did. It occupied Moscow from 1610 to 1612. I bet the poles were smart enough to bring winter coats unlike the frogs and krauts though.
>>489057503All of these things apply doubly to the Chinese. I still don't like or respect either of them
>>489058060It was a private venture of like 3 nobles and their private armies. Poland was a free country so the king didn't restrain their subjects with silly things like monopoly on violence and whatnot.
>>489055523"Ex-Soviet Generals kissed ass for cash and prizes and continue to do so to this day"FIFY
>>489057587Is it really suicide if they commies have machine guns pointed at them too?
>>489058400what a retarded idea, no wonder you stopped existing shortly after
>>489058014They basically killed every single military aged tarter in a single battle once. They defeated napoleon. They had some good moments. Also I'm not jewish so I'm not into genociding a bunch of white people.
>>489055523The thing is that the USA and Great Britain had formidable fighting forces during those days, but have degenerated into utter faggotry in the meantime.Germany used to have enough military strength to stop a Russian advance for a considerable time-span, but since the "War on Terror" has shifted its focus to being a shitty third world police force. Seriously, German soldiers were scared as fuck of the very idea of fighting the Taliban. THE FUCKING TALIBAN!!!Russia, in the meantime has improved quite remarkably. The only relevant fighting forces in or with NATO are Ukraine and Poland as well as Turkey, but Turkey is already on its way out.tl;dr assuming those Ex-Soviet generals "acknowledged" this with their "opinion", times have changed.
>>489056173Yeah but that's Ukrainians. Not you.
>>489058400Well they marched from the west and installed a puppet tsar anyway proving that it can be done. If it was just three nobles and their retainers it makes my point even better.
>>489058807This.Americans cry like babies the moment the first picture of a dead US soldier is aired.
>>489058919At least we don't cry when someone denies the Holocaust.
>>489058919why do you retards think that? we have less dead and injured soldiers because we're just better, plus we send single soldiers on a fuckhuge C-17 to your country (which we rule over) to receive the best medical care money can buy on a base stationed on German soil
>>489059180bitch, you put snipers on the roofs of schools when someone suggests that Israel stop killing babies
>>489058740>They defeated napoleon.They didn't tho. The logistics and the winter did. Nappy whipped their ass in every battle. Even when he war retreating and his army was falling apart. As for the muh white cope russia is as diverse as america is. Most of russians dying in gore vids on /pol/ dont look all that white. Theres nothing particularly impressive about russia and almost nothing in its history to respect other than misery and suffering. You dont have to prove your not jewish by hyping up russia.
>>489059307>As for the muh white cope russia is as diverse as america isAmerica is 56% white, Russia 99%
>>489059274Me? No I'm an antisemite. I don't actually control the CIA and If I did I would use it to deport all the browns and yids from Europe and America.
>>489055523>Ex-Soviet generals acknowledgedsource?
>>489059641A country is represented by it's government. majority of brits also don't care about muh hatespeech
>>489055851none of that shit matters if you can't shoot down f35s
>>489059307I don't think you can legitimately say the French were winning battles on their retreat. The Cossaks were cutting the frogs to pieces. And yeah napoleon won outside of Moscow but it was costly as fuck and the campaign resulted in -500k soldiers for the little guy no matter how uou slice it. I'm not hyping up Russia. I just have some respect for their history in a difficult region surrounded by enemies that were pretty formidable at one point. If they hadn't killed all those tarters, would eastern Europe even be European? Idk maybe but maybe not. The Russia hate is certainly a globohomo anti white thing so while I don't need to hype up Russia, you probably need to explain how genociding a ton of slavs is not white replacement and how you aren't a jew.
>>489055523Kek memeflag trying too hard NATO in that know that they will lose europe the reason why nukes will be used and the soviets know that they will win but with heavy loses
>>489059734So in your opinion, I'm guilty for the cia killing babies? Even though I do not consent to it and have no power to influence it?
>>489060433You are as much guilty as the british are guilty of their wrongdoings that you accused them of.
>>489057717NATO plan is basically to hold the soviets until American reinforcements and mobilization get on time and tactical nukes are part of it
>>489060433yeah, every tax paying american is responsible for ruby ridge and waco and much more
>>489060536I didn't accuse the British of wrong doings. Chloe and Nigel sitting on their farm in Lancaster didn't build those railroads in india and weren't even alive when they were built. Also your nation has a really long history making you guilty for a lot under your guilt system.
