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I believe in reincarnation, to a certain extent
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>>489061144
nothing
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>>489061144
I am afraid there is nothing
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>>489061144
suffering
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>>489061237
this
there isnt a soul
your sentience is a biological function and does not persist in some form
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Not a goddamn thing, your brain activity ceases and your body turns into maggot food. Anything else is a total cope.
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>>489061237
>>489061333
Matter is neither created nor destroyed. In my opinion the way we are will end up reforming in a later/different time on a long enough timeline
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it is a part of life and vice versa.
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>>489061144
You'll enter my furry fetish plane of existence for eternity. I hope you like being inflated and vored.
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>>489061144
Reincarnation amongst blood / race because that’s what your spirit is most connected with and thus what it’ll be reborn back into.

This is why blood/race is everything and race mixing the greatest sin. We live eternally through our blood
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>>489061446
Kinky
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>>489061144
I dunno lmao
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>>489061144
Here's the secret. Consciousness never dies. Consciousness is fundamental to existence. Consciousness will drift to another experience. Just how it does from dream to dream.

Very few attain this knowledge.
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>>489061144
I don't know, I have not been convinced by anyone who claims they do, I'm interested to find out, and I'm open to ideas on how I can find out. Might try to get into meditation at some point.
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>>489061144
Time is a human construct. Each moment of your existence persists infinitely in perpetuity
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>>489061144
>hindu beliefs
>the ideas of walking, talking turds
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>>489061630
I’m Buddhist
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>>489061421
Boring. You must be fun at parties. If you ever did go to one
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>>489061144
You become a ghost wandering the spirit realm until you reincarnate.
And no you can't reincarnate into a cockroach.
Every reincarnation is an improvement to the previous life since you have learned more.
Though you might not like the improvement because your soul might decide it's good to teach you a lesson and even if in your previous life you were a millionaire you are now a hobo.
Earth is the lowest possible tier of sentient planets with the lowest souls.
There's planets of "angels" and "gods" out there as well with souls that are infathomably old compared to yours.
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>>489061446
based
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>>489061144
Bad ending: Hell
Good ending : Heaven
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>>489061730
Still a poo religion lol, budda was a walking, talking turd person
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I've seen no evidence to suggest anything happens after death. So nothing.
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>>489061630
Hindu is a jeet perversion of the original Vedic religion which was originally Indo-Aryan. Jews hate the indo-Aryan Vedic relgion a lot and tried to bury ancient Aryan history in India that the Nazis tried to rediscover
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>>489061237
>>489061268
>nothing
Like how it was before you were born?
And nothing happened after that, did it?
Nothing isn't a thing, and nonexistence doesn't exist. The ride never ends, lads
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>>489061882
He was technically indo-aryan, but I get you
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>>489061925
I consider <<nothing>> to be in the category of Hell.

Void. Abyss. Hell. Death.
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>>489061925
Maybe you just can't see it happening with your eyeballs hmm?

>>489061549
Makes the most sense, this is what I believe
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>>489061549
Time did exist you were Born
You just were not aware of it
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>>489062062
Thats because you imagine yourself concussions floating in nothing. But death will feel the same way you felt before you were born.

>>489062167
I dont reject the idea, I just havent seen any evidence to suggest there is an afterlife. You think someone on the otherside would have made contact by now if there was.
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>>489061599
>Each moment of your existence persists infinitely in perpetuity
This anon gets it. Look up Eternalism.

It's pretty interesting. The idea is that everything already exists. And you are experiencing a moment at a time, sequentially. Much like a VHS tape being played from start to end.

Otherwise the alternative is that existence is somehow incomplete, which doesn't make sense when you think about it. I believe existence is infinite, yet complete and total. Change and time is an illusion. There isn't creation. Everything already exists in perpetuity. You are experiencing a life that already exists in its entirety a moment at a time.
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>>489061549
>Very few attain this knowledge.
Literal billions of smelly, shit-eating Jeets have this knowledge though their understanding is not perfect
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>>489062029
God I Hope so
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>>489062029
What does that even mean?
Composite objects absolutely can cease to exist. If you eat a corn dog, there will be no more corn dog. Just because the atoms that make up the corndog have been repurposed doesn't mean anything deep or meaningful happened to the corn dog.
The corn dog just ceases to exist.
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>>489062347
So, Hell.
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>>489062347
Just because you are retarded doesn't mean its wrong
If your soul is old enough you can attain knowledge of your previous lives, like I have, though very few humans have
But I know who I was before
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>>489062433

You can cope all you want but you've never experienced non-existence, retard.
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"Consciousness" probably takes a new form (not sure if it's some sort of reincarnation or eternal recurrence or "afterlife")
otherwise existing right now is mathematically close to impossible
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>>489061549
Based and Platopilled. Also worth mentioning that consciousness seeks out experiences that are like itself. If you live a base and evil life, you will be reborn among evil. Which is this world. If you live a virtuous and wise life, your consciousness will ascend to the realm of intellect and absolute Good.
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>>489061432
there is nothing to reform because you (as a spirit or soul) arent there in the first place
your biological dream ended and your corpse decays
that is all the change to matter that occurs
you are nothing more than your body
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>>489062564
No shit. I can't "experience" nonexistence because then there would be no "me" to experience it. That's the whole point.
Your sophistry is not deep or insightful. It's just retarded hippy shit that sounds good to pot smoking retards.
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Nothingness to me is Hell. It is akin to plucking your eyes out.
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>>489061549
>Very few attain this knowledge.

Oh thank God I got lucky and had access to 4chan lmao.
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Eternal Darkness.
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>>489062757

What was it like before you were born, retard?
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>>489062335
>you
What is "you?" The self is an illusion. It's undefinable. Experience and ego come and go but the only thing that remains is qualia or experience. You, as defined as a human organism, is not the same human that was 5 or 10 years ago. Physically, you are completely different. Not even a single atom is unchanged. But the aspect of experience still remains. It's ever present. A good way to think about it is the ripples on a pond. The pond is always there, but the state of the ripples on it are what vary.
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>>489062696
True, but the atoms that you’re comprised of will eventually reform. That’s just what I believe tho
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>>489062588
it's not close to impossible it is actually impossible
since infinity is infinite your chance of existing is a limit approaching zero and therefore zero
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>>489062925
No clue. I wasn't there.
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Nothing and everything

Conciousness never dies, you get to feel every single agonizing second after your death, you will feel your body rot away and finally you will feel the cold hard earth on your bare bones for the rest of eternity, the mantle will turn itself a thousand times over and you will be there to feel it.

Why do you think so many ancient cultures preserved the bodies of their dead? Or rituals and festivals involving bringing the remains of loved ones inside the house.
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>>489062414
> though their understanding is not perfect

Yeah they believe they can be reincarnated into anything and is dependent on their level of karma. Low level karma means reincarnated into work and high level karma means reincarnated into a higher caste human.

Karma is irrelevant though, there is no magic being that weighs your karma and decides your next life, this is what the jeets get wrong. The truth is reincarnation is based on blood/race alone. Your spirit is most connected to your blood/race so you will reincarnate into it as such. This is why the prosperity, success and evolution of your own people is the most important thing, it literally will determine how good your next life is.
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>>489063024

Thanks for confirming all you experience and all you ever will know is consciousness.
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>>489062347
>I just havent seen any evidence to suggest there is an afterlife
The strongest argument insists that the soul is eternal. If Truth can't be destroyed (which you have to agree it can't because even if Truth were destroyed it would be true that Truth had been destroyed, thus creating Truth) and Truth is contained within the consciousness, then logically consciousness must be impossible to destroy as well.

The only argument that opposes the idea is a fallacy called appeal to ignorance. "We just don't know enough" is not a valid argument. All correct beliefs are based on which argument is the strongest, and in this instance the only valid argument supports the notion of eternal consciousness.
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>>489061797
You have a word in Greek for it, I think. Metempsychosis. There are many mentions to it in Orphic hymns.
> you might not like the improvement because your soul might decide it's good to teach you a lesson and even if in your previous life you were a millionaire you are now a hobo.
This is why I don't really agree with reincarnation. First - We should know what happened before so we can improve.
Second - If a millionaire is reborn as hobo, he retains some essence of his previous life, so it'd be pretty obvious to anyone he's a hobo by misfortune.
As the Spaniards say - a monkey in silk remains a monkey (and a princess in rags remains a princess).
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>>489061144
Again?
#decomposition
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Only God can craft a nensmnvsw reality for me.
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>>489062556
There currently exists no evidence of existence of souls nor some kind of magical 'consciousness' that makes you, you. Everything you are is a sequence of neurons and electrons firing off.

>>489062505
Just nothingness. I'd hardly call it hell if there is no suffering
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>>489062935
only if you are manifested again through your bloodline
fundamentally reprinted
but it wont really be you but another instance
at least that would be the only way i could see it being possible
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>>489063103
No shit. And when my consciousness nades, I do not experience or know anything.
Have you never had a dreamless sleep before?
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>>489061730
If you're not a monk you're not a "Buddhist".
There's no such a thing as "Buddhism for lay people". All that exists for lay people was invented after Buddha death because the Sangha became pretty popular at the time.
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>>489063143
You are a fool.
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>>489063276
You don’t to be a monk to have that belief
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>>489063091
Your judge is your soul, which does not decide things like you do. It doesn't care about your material happiness only your spiritual growth. It might decide you being a hobo will teach you more than a spoiled brat son of a billionaire.
For newer souls blood/race might be the obvious choice but older souls will seek to challenge themselves to learn more.
Why do you think niggers and Jeets are exploding and whites are diminishing?
Whites have decided to reincarnate into literal niggers.
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Nothingness is suffering.
Poverty is suffering.
Lacking is suffering.
Weakness is suffering.
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>>489063260

I've never had a "dreamless sleep" because I don't know what that is, nor when I was put under with anesthesia did I ever experience so-called "unconsciousness".

I am only conscious, and will remain so.
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Hell is suffering.
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>>489063119
>The strongest argument insists that the soul is eternal
Currently there is no science that indicates an existence of a soul
>If Truth can't be destroyed
It can. All truth is; is the majority of people agreeing on something. Even though the holocaust likely never occurred its considering a fact and the truth because enough people believe it did.
>Truth is contained within the consciousness
Theres no evidence suggesting there is some kind of magical 'consciousness' that makes you, you. All you are is a sequence of neurons and electrons firing off.
>The only argument that opposes the idea is a fallacy called appeal to ignorance.
So your argument is centered in the idea that matter cannot be created or destroyed; it can only be changed. Which is true. The error is that you believe souls exist and they follow the same rules of not being capable of being destroyed. But no evidence currently exists suggesting anything resembling a soul is real.
>>489063313
We havent even colonized our first planet yet. All of us are fools doing our best to comprehend an existence that is beyond us.
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>>489063276
False. You're incorrect.
Look up the Tibetan Nakba lineage & tradition.
Next.
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I go to gensokyo
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>>489063579
>we
I have seen God. You cannot say the same to me.
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>>489061144
I lost my soul due to doing shadow sorcery and was visited by demons and spirits who plan to throw me into the lake of fire.
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>>489063051
Well this is unsettling.
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>>489063124
>First - We should know what happened before so we can improve.
You do know, your soul knows even if you are too stupid to remember or put it into words, but it affects your every decision, even if you don't consciously know it
>Second - If a millionaire is reborn as hobo, he retains some essence of his previous life, so it'd be pretty obvious to anyone he's a hobo by misfortune.
He does retain something
The knowledge that pleasure from material gains is fleeting and spirituality is more important
It is not obvious because genes are strong shit
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>>489062564
You're the one who cope
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>>489061630
Technicolor yawn
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>>489061144
we go back to the spirit realm and you can try out another dimension if you want.
this one kind of sucks because of loss.
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>>489063686
Yes, I find that the most faithful people all have some grand personal experience that is the lynch pin of their faith. Typically its an extraordinary coincidence being credit to the existence of a deity. But for many especially younger people its drug induced hallucinations.
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>>489063579
>All truth is; is the majority of people agreeing on something
Your entire post is wrong, but this is the most fundamentally wrong thing that will prevent you from ever being right about anything in your life. Truth is objective, it doesn't require your consent and it doesn't bend to your will. 2+2 will always equal 4, it doesn't matter how many people disagree with it. It was always true, since before humanity even had the symbols to represent the idea, and it will always be true, even if humanity dies out completely. There's no hope for you coming to any sensible conclusions about anything if you can't even wrap your head around the objectivity of mathematics.
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>>489063276
retarded take from a westerner that knows nothing. i am sure all of the kagyu practicing tibetans would disagree.
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>>489063989
what makes a hallucination not real and a non-hallucination real?
the only thing that can judge if something is real is your brain, and if your brain is seeing things then they are as real as anything else
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>>489063989
I can beat 100% of /pol/ posters in a chess match. Do you think that coincidence?
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>>489063686
>literally have seen God
>yet spend hours shitposting on 4chan everyday as it was nothing
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>>489062029
Sadly.

Now I had some really random thoughts that don’t particularly apply to ethno-centric faith. Based on the assumptions of positive, negative energy and infinity.

If you consider consciousness as some sort of infinite stream irregardless of the biological body then your consciousness will simply continue in an alternative reality or a different universe potentially an infinite number of years from now.

Just as you have no experience of the billions of years of life before your first awareness. You will have no knowledge of reality, universe and time shifts. This is beyond a question of time and space.

You are like a book written in an infinite number of realities in an infinite number of locations in a completely randomised time frame that guarantees a continuous stream of consciousness. This book has an infinite length and you have read through a minuscule number of pages. You are the reader that maintains the knowledge of the previous pages. In some universes and realities the book ends but in others it continues. As such you as the reader are shifting between universes, time and realities to continue reading. To you these shifts of trillions of years or infinite distances are irrelevant.

Now while consciousness is infinite. The state is not particularly static. Waking up from a “human life” simulator, a “character judge sorter”, as part of a godhead, as a computer program, an an ai or from a drug infused dream within a different body in a different reality is an active continuation of consciousness. As such no laws are broken for consciousness continuation. Odds are that the most likely consciousness continuation are of a higher consciousness from which your personal experience is disregarded for some sort of average. Being one of millions of consciousnesses with a near infinite awareness as compared to a human.
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>>489061144
You can't change genders btw
It's the only thing you can't change after reincarnating
That's why trannies are a joke
They will never ever be a woman not in this life not in any life ever
Your gender is bound to your soul
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>>489063527
Again with the sophistry.
Let's follow this premise for a second:
You have gone to bed and closed your eyes at one hour of the night only to find that you're in another part of the day when you opened them. We can suppose two frames of reference here:
>"you" ceased existing for those hours
Now imagine "you" never came back into existence.
>those hours of the day didn't exist
Now suppose you closed your eyes and no more hours exist after.

Again: none of what you're saying is deep and insightful. It's just retarded bullshit you say while you're smoking pot with your dumbass friends expecting them to go "woah, that's crazy..."
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>>489061144
Some people are cremated some buried
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>>489064316
Just as the universe itself exists as a sum of nothing. The individual exists as a sum of nothing. Therefore the individual exists in a state of non existence. As do alternative realities that do not function by the laws of this universe. As such there is nothing preventing the individual consciousness from existing infinitely under the condition that this reality is infinite.

As such is there anything stopping your consciousness from continuing in an infinite ever expanding and ever growing manner? As an amalgamation of potentially an infinite number of consciousnesses. Your death in this world will be a transition to another reality in another universe. There is no way for you to even be able to judge if your consciousness hasn’t shifted an infinite number of times through an infinite number of realities creating a supposedly seamless transition in experience. Just as this universe can exist as a non-existent sum that must exist due to a lack of space leading to a lack of time leading to an infinite loop of negative and positive matter existing in explosions of separations as a sort of spontaneous universal heart beat of existence?
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>>489064304
It's good to be alive.
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>>489062696
What's kinda intriguing is that "YOU" as a thinking person with memory and emotions and personality is a combination of different biological mechanism that are cause via electrochemical signals. If you want to break it doen further then you are those signals just as much you are your body. Theoretically you could recreate those same signals digitally or some other medium which is possible as it doesn't break any physical rules. So when you "die" it would be like going unconscious but given the right circumstances, technology, or (being optimistic) something we don't fully understand of how the universe creates consciousness, it isn't necessarily the end.
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>>489062931
Electrical pulses in the brain connected to sensory input.
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>>489064505
electrical impulses in the brain can be (and have been) replicated digitally.
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>>489064110
I just dont think its the case. If you convince enough people that a lie is a truth. Then we restructure society around that lie. In every way that actually matters, that lie has become the truth.

>>489064158
Because if you have to take funny drugs to mess up your brain chemistry in order to see visions of god. The god in question isnt real.

>>489064219
So you're saying you met god and he taught you to play chess really well? Aight man.
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>>489064581
Not human brain ones to detail tho
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>>489061630
Shut up you subhuman demon worshipping ape.


Alexander Cornelius Polyhistor referred to the druids as philosophers, and called their doctrine of the immortality of the soul and metempsychosis (reincarnation), "Pythagorean":

The Pythagorean doctrine prevails among the Gauls' teaching that the souls of men are immortal, and that after a fixed number of years they will enter into another body

Caesar made similar observations:

With regard to their actual course of studies, the main object of all education is, in their opinion, to imbue their scholars with a firm belief in the indestructibility of the human soul, which, according to their belief, merely passes at death from one tenement to another; for by such doctrine alone, they say, which robs death of all its terrors, can the highest form of human courage be developed. Subsidiary to the teachings of this main principle, they hold various lectures and discussions on the stars and their movement, on the extent and geographical distribution of the earth, on the different branches of natural philosophy, and on many problems connected with religion.
—Julius Caesar, De Bello Gallico, VI, 14

Diodorus Siculus, writing in 36 BCE, described how the druids followed "the Pythagorean doctrine", that human souls "are immortal, and after a prescribed number of years they commence a new life in a new body"
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>>489061144
we are eternal spirits having a temporary human experience

everything is electric, this whole universe is electric and operates via electricity. the gay shit they told you about in school with no proof like "gravity" are all incoherent electrostatics, the way your brain works is electricity firing through neurons. every living thing on earth has a measurable electric field. we are clearly in some sort of sea of electricity, and we are able to harness it to enhance our lives. electricity flows through us and gives us life even more than our blood does. our flesh has forgotten what we truly are
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>>489064327

None of what you are saying is deep or insightful either, not like I need to actually say because these arguments are two sides of the same coin.

We'll have to discuss what is the "Self" and what makes me, "Me", the Mind Body problem and yadda yadda.

In any case I'll cut it short, it all comes down to faith, anon. You can either be an accursed recusant who refuses to bow down to anything other than the "almighty" self, or you can lift your spirit up high with a humble heart.

In all reality and seriousness, I'm agnostic but I hate people who speak in absolutes.
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>>489064664
There is too many ((coincidences)) in my life. More than I can count.
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I wish we just blinked out if existence. But the bible says otherwise, and it's the only thing that makes sense.
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>>489061144
What makes you think you're not already dead and in hell?
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>>489063402
Doesn't matter what you "belief". Only matters what you do, and Buddha was very clear that the first step is to leave everything behind and become a monk.

>>489063591
>>489064153
>tibetan heresy

Opinion discarted.
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>>489065246
The truth remains regardless, being a monk or not won’t change reality
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>>489061882
cope nigger, you fumbled
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>>489061421
How could believing that you go to he'll for some time "cope"?
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>>489061333
>your sentience is a biological function
what creates a biological function
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You start out again as a new human or if you were a bitch ass nigga in your life you get to be a dog or something
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>>489065009
>None of what you are saying is deep or insightful either
It's not supposed to be. I made the simple statement that non-existence is possible and you took issue with that.

>I'm agnostic but I hate people who speak in absolutes.
Re-read the conversation we just had. My initial post was refuting an absolute. I made no absolute claims.

Do I know what happens after we die? No. But retarded hippy rants asserting consciousness must be eternal do not get us any closer to an answer.
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>>489061557
Don't meditate, anon. You'll be opening yourself up to beings we can't see, and they're bad, because why would good being enter someone who does not consent?
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>>489065246
>Monk
Lmaoing at u
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>>489062433
nothing is a concept, which means it's still something
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>>489061965
Pretty much. Modern poos will never admit it, and most White Christians will deliberately ignore this or obfuscate the issue and accuse you of being a poo-worshipper. Only a very small subset of historical and modern national socialists/White ethnonationalists get it.
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>>489061144
After about three weeks, I start to turn black and stink.
Death makes niggers of us all.
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>>489061144
I believe it's whatever you believe it to be.
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>>489064317
>your gender us bound to your soul
So I'm going to be a male monkey... forever and ever?
I wish I could be reborn as a female so I could take some vacation from working. Women don't have to work to earn their bread - they show their bobs and money appears in their wallet.
Being male is awesome, but very tiring. You have to support and guide lots of freeloading whores and lesser monkeys.

You have a point, though. Souls are gendered. If someone claims you were a woman in your former lives, it's a lie.
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>>489065702
The concept of "nothing" exists, but true nothingness is the absence of everything, including concepts.
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>>489061459
Pretty much this.

You are eternal through your children. If life after death was a function of nature then the whole mutation and passing of genes would be kinda pointless.
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Hoping for Isekai myself. Time for me to become the main character and get a harem of cute anime girls.
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>>489066022
that's not it either, but it's still a good way to point to it
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>>489061144
>life or continuing of consciousness. Plus no sex. Same as life for me but I get to float around and in DMT hyperspace….
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>>489061549
>metaphysics
>knowledge

K
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>>489061333
>your sentience is a biological function and does not persist in some form
maybe yours fuckin doesn't, NPC
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>>489066132
What i mean is pointing to "nothing" conceptually doesn’t make it something. It’s still the absence of anything. A pointer isn’t the thing itself no? Whats ur take on this?
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>>489065702
In the same sense that I'm a billionaire because I have approximately zero billions of dollars.
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>>489066155
Your ideal scenario is not possible. Because If I get to play God. I will hunt down 99.999% of you ((gods)) and throw you into my personal Hell.exe
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>>489061144
Reality in the spiritual world is shaped by your beliefs and actions in life. If you are a Buddhist, you will be reborn in one of the 6 kingdoms (or Pure Lands), become a Bodhisattva or attain Nirvana. If you are a Christian, you will go to Christian heaven or hell, become a Saint (who will judge the World and the Angels during the Final Judgment for the New Jerusalem or Second Death), or attain the Theosis. If you are a Muslim, you go to Muslim heaven or hell, became a Wali or attain Fana. Mormons get their own planet to play God. You might even end up in an "isekai" style fantasy world.

>>489063276
>>489065246
There are literal Lay Bodhisattvas, you Hinayana retarded. If all beings from the Six Worlds (Devas/Asuras, Humans, Pretas, Animals and Rakshas) can reach Nirvana regardless of their forms/reasoning, why don't you think that laypeople can't? Sidarta literally said that Dharma was just a raft and that the Vinaya could be changed after he died. His analogy of the raft is telling. He never said Buddhism was the only path (he actually said the opposite), or that you must follow its precepts to be liberated. The only claim the Buddha made was that the dharma was the most effective and efficient path towards liberation, and he urged people to figure out for themselves if he was right by putting into application what he taught. That's why he said there were Bodhisattvas before him and gave secret teachings to the Nagas before reaching Nivarna because he knew he did not have enough earthly to answer all the doubts of his Sangha.
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>>489066459
Talking to this post >>489066376
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Stop deleting your own post. Dick head.
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>>489065553

>Do I know what happens after we die? No. But retarded hippy rants asserting consciousness must be eternal do not get us any closer to an answer.

Who cares what the answer is. It's objectively better if people believe there's an afterlife and that they will be judged by their actions. So just believe it and live by it.
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>>489061144
Well, you can either choose to respawn, but there's usually a bunch of asshat campers who make your life miserable again.
Or you can boot up another game besides Medal of Honor: NEET Edition, maybe a nice strategy game and amuse yourself building an alien civilisation on Zeta Reticuli.
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>>489066518
Look up the 1200 year Shambala prophecy.
Epic and relevant. Bodhisattva vows can be taken by any 'lay' practioner.
Sarva mangalam
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>>489064664
>I just dont think its the case
You don't get to have an opinion on this. Truth is objective. It doesn't matter how many people believe in a lie, what's true is still true and nothing can take away from that fact. You willfully choosing to lie to yourself about this will not make it so.
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>>489061144
Ascension.
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>>489061144
It doesn't matter.
What's important is that (You) die.
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>>489066818
Well apparently billions of people care. And it seems picking the wrong answer all but guarantees the bad outcome in most cases so it's in everyone's best interest to get it right.
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I will not tolerate multiple gods across multiple dimension. I will kill you. If I can't kill you, I will make you wish to die.
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>>489064394
>it isn't necessarily the end
Exactly, because at the end of the day, you can't say with 100% certainty you just "shut off" and go into darkness forever, as you're nothing more than on and off switches. But we know fundamentally that's not true, and it's way more complex than that, and for a lot of people, that's hope for something more. Which isn't an unreasonable position at all.
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>>489066396
i became aware of it once, but only for a few minutes. i lost it for whatever reason. but it was like becoming aware of the "concept" of nothingness, yet also knowing that it was not a "concept." and no matter what i could think or say would be an accurate representation of what i had become aware of. it was also interesting because it was here and now, immediately, always. it was here and always here. have you encountered this before?
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>>489061144
You are put into void where you scream and please to somebody save you. Then you are put to something like collections of other souls it's not biblical heaven but more like rest space where you talk with others and wait until next reincarnation. It's fucked up because you usually go right for another until you reach certain goals and then you are disconnecting from Human ghost(which is basically Human hive mind) and when you are fully individual you are going somewhere else.

Evolution/Spirituality/Science it's all connected idiots say it's separated things and theories it's all connected and it makes sense.
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>>489062564
>You can cope all you want but you've never experienced non-existence, retard.
I did experiance being a kid, and looking at the world for the first time. It was totally beyond my grasp, and I knew nothing.
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>>489063313
>t brown memeflag
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>>489067443
Do you want to experience eternal darkness?
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There is some Source which created your experience of life. (If not, then why are you experiencing things?) That source has some mechanism by which it can create your experience. So when you die, it will necessarily recreate another experience because that is what it does. There is nothing stopping the source from creating more of your experiences, so that is what it does forever (or until some outside force stops it).
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>>489061144
hindoos are trannies
>I'll be a woman in next life!!!
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>>489066818
>It's objectively better if people believe there's an afterlife and that they will be judged by their actions
Rerard
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once dead you lose consciousness and therefore you don't care, otherwise the soul could be the instinct of self-preservation.
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You go to the "Processing Centre" where you meet the Archons who work for Satan, you're then gaslighted into a new life because of Karma, That's what the Astral Travelers say anyway.
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>>489067182

Billions of people can't even do what's good for them, such as sticking to a diet. One minute they're on the road, next minute they have road rage and did something stupid.

Even the staunchest atheist has that unconscious hope within them about death, whether they want to admit it or not.

Some things shouldn't be answered. I see it as an evil, ignorant thing. Imagine taking that mystery (which is Hope) away from people. You have no idea what the repercussions would be of that and I would wager heavily - not good.
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>>489067351
Whole evolution is about individuality.
Insect Ghost(Hive Mind) have Insect Souls those are reincarnated into new insectoid bodies. Insect is about 10-20% individual rest is decided by hive mind or programs. When insect soul crosses certain level of individuality insect soul is detached from Insect Ghost and attached to Animal Ghost and now it insect soul is considered as animal soul etc... it keeps going until it reaches human level from black to asian to white and then after certain amount of reincarnations you are leaving this planet completely. Goal of this is to become fully individual to be 1 on 1.
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>>489067262
It never happened to me but I have discused with an old philosopher friend a simmilar experience. We agreed It was a kinda of intuitive grasp of emptiness or being that transcends the usual boundaries of thought and language, which is why it felt like a paradox. He said This is what is called "pure consciousness" or a "non-dual" state. Truth is our whole reality is made up in our brain and we wont able to "see" the real outside hence EVERYTHING we experience is in reality NOTHING.
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>>489067724
I think you're missing my point.
Imagine it turns out some obscure Protestant denomination is correct. Now imagine whatever afterlife you choose to believe in is some kind of retarded Hindu shit. Well now you, and whoever you brought into the fold of this faith with you, are going to burn for eternity.

Your take on the afterlife is indistinguishable from Plato's Noble Lie. But you presuppose an atheistic reality to make this position remotely tenable. "Just choose to believe something" only makes sense in a godless universe.
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>>489061144
No you don’t. You just want to believe it in hopes that you can continue to waste your life and never improve yourself because you hope you’ll be someone who isn’t a loser the next time around.
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>>489068437
You’ve got it backwards; this is the truth that I believe regardless of what my desires are
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>>489061144
idk. accumulate enough knowledge to exit the matrix and my soul will return to the pleroma
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>>489061144
>go to sleep, experience nothing for a few hours, dream a bit, wake up
>before you're born experience nothing for a couple billion years, eventually you're born and wake up
>die, experience nothing for a while...
then what? You can't experience nothing. It's conceptually impossible for there to be nothing after death, because if there was nothing you wouldn't experience it. Your consciousness would only experience immediately waking up in whatever situation happens after dying. Maybe it'll be trillions of years later and the universe has reset and you've been born again, like this >>489061549. Maybe someone else was born and their brain is randomly close enough to what your brain was like for your consciousness to wake up there. Maybe someone is simulating your brain in a computer and you wake up there. But it seems illogical that there would be nothing, because nothing is impossible to experience.
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>>489061144
It doesn’t matter what you believe. There is already an answer to this question, we just don’t know it. Humans are not the centre of the u inverse and things exist without our knowledge of them. You can’t “believe” or “have opinions” on objective facts. It’s ok to just acknowledge that we don’t know.
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>>489068745
>It’s ok to just acknowledge that we don’t know.
Hah! Good luck convincing people of that.
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>>489068745
But I believe what I do based on what humans currently understand
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>>489068257
yeah that is a good explanation of it i think
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>>489068677
Eternal Darkness. Void. Abyss.
>And they begged Jesus repeatedly not to order them to go into the Abyss.
>A large herd of pigs was feeding there on the hillside. The demons begged Jesus to let them go into the pigs, and he gave them permission.
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>>489069053
that's a weird assumption
there's plenty of stuff on this side, why wouldn't there be stuff on the other side?
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>>489069195
Prison don't need any fancy luxury.
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>>489069290
why should I trust jewish mythology?
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>>489069355
You don't need to. But know that I am never wrong about this stuff
>John 10:27-28
>My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
>And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
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>>489064316

Oh yes, I'm gonna take cosmological ideas from a guy that uses "irregardless" in their native language, I think not.
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>>489061144
It is a non-being which doesn't merely exist, because being merely exists.
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>>489069531
if you want to be a sheep that's fine by me
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>>489061144
There is no after death. Death is the end of time, how could there be an "after"?
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>>489069666
You can enjoy eternal darkness then. Other than the supreme Lord. There is no deity that will make you a new reality.
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>>489069539
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>>489068363

to your first point... that will never be realized, just like how they will never understand anything about the universe to a measurable degree other than "it's complex". They only stick with evolution because it's their best answer even though it's deeply flawed.


To your second point. One cannot know, but hope and live accordingly. It's the only logical answer and a path that leads to happiness and structure to peoples' lives. Why live in abject hopelessness and condemn yourself when you can just easily say "I believe". It's not so hard as you might think.

Here you go anon: https://www.amazon.com/We-Who-Wrestle-God-Perceptions/dp/0593542533
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Well, in your case, you're going to hell if you don't repent for that mongoloid heresy
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>>489061144
>reincarnate as a pajeet forever
sounds worse than hell
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>>489066973
Most Bodhisattvas, at least the most famous ones, were laypeople. One of the few Bodhisattva monks was Kshitigarbha, the "Bodhisattva of the Underworld" as people who watched Big Trouble in Little China may know. He plays a parallel role to Jesus during his descent into Hades for 3 days (Aeons/Ages/Millennia) converting the pagans and demons (the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse and Abaddon are that). The interesting thing is that Jesus died in the Jewish year 3790-3793, that is, after these 3 hellish days, it would be the year 6000, which is the beginning of the Messianic Era for the Jews. Although Buddhists see this more as Armageddon:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalachakra#Shambhala_kingdom_and_its_holy_war_with_the_barbarians

>On the other hand, according to the Mahayana tradition, many Bodhisattvas are lay people. Among the great Bodhisattvas such as Manjushri, Samantabhadra, Avalokitesvara and Kshitigarbha, only Kshitigarbha presents himself as a member of the Sangha. The others all present themselves as lay people. Thus do not misunderstand that lay people will not achieve profound enlightenment and think that it can only be attained by the members of the Order

>Kṣitigarbha is known for his vow to take responsibility for the instruction of all beings in the six worlds between the death of Gautama Buddha and the rise of Maitreya, as well as his vow not to achieve Buddhahood until all hells are emptied. He is therefore often regarded as the bodhisattva of hell-beings, as well as the guardian of children and patron deity of deceased children and aborted fetuses in Japanese culture
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>>489070280
What makes Semitic interpretations correct?
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>>489064840
based electric universe schizo
>gravity
funnily enough gravity is the only force that quantum physics can't explain yet; it's all theoretical.
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"Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be."
- Krishna to warrior Arjuna, in the Bhagavad-Gita

https://web.archive.org/web/20150630014626/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ205esn7qE
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>>489069690
Correct, but there is a present, even though we can't talk about from the side of the living.
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reborn as a fly on the eyeball african if you dont get any jewish kills
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>>489061144
>What do you believe happens after death?
your hair and fingernails continue to grow for up to 6 months
but your phone calls taper off immediately
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lmao at all the atheists itt, enjoy your surprise
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>>489061144
>wanting to come back to this cursed earth
why
I blieve in Jesus Christ and his death for my sins on the cross so I can be with God forever
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>>489073942
>why
Because it's fun and I love experiencing life?
It's the same reason why I'll never kill myself.
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>>489070582
It's not Semitic. The fragments of the truth of God exist in every single culture and "religion", but the wholeness can only be found in the Catholic Church. We can know it's true because it is in the only institution that perfects a culture rather than destroys it.
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>>489062029
God dam, he think there's nothing afterwards. Let him his fucking believing. What's your problem to try to Missionary everyone. Fucker..
I think I will be reborn as a baby from someone. I, so.. Hm.. My soul.. The Neverending circle so to say.
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I think you will be yeeted into a land of milk and honey, completely free from Jews and niggers
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There is no Hell. This was always a lie. This Earth is miserable enough, the idea that the afterlife could be worse is extremely low level.
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>>489074575
>durr durr only my cult is correct

Fuck off, Catholics love faking relics, grabbing up money, and have killed thousands of innocents.
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>>489074779
Sorry you believe you Jew lies. I'd be happy to dispute any specific grievances you have.
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>>489061144
consciousness is a curse. how i yearn for nothingness. but the nature of this reality definitely points to creator. i wonder when we face god could we ask for true death? fuck
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>>489061144
I’m struggling with my faith since I believe in Jesus and reincarnation but I don’t know that they belong together.
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>>489061333
You guys are worse than niggers, it’s one thing to be a there’s but don’t demoralize others like that by telling they don’t have souls.
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It's impossible for me to die, I am the universe
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Reincarnation taking into account that the Aryans believe in it and that it is correct with respect to the natural laws, specifically the fourth law, which is the law of cycles.
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>>489061734
>I come to pol to bant instead discuss
npc response
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>>489061446
kys degenerate
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>>489062029
yeah pretty much. but the tibetans etc seem to think there is an escape and they studied it autistically for thousands of years so hopefully it works
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>>489061549

>Consciousness never dies

Do you have a single fact to back that up, bozo? You need a brain to have consciousness, brain dies, consciousness goes out with it, tell me, how does the electrical spark that constitutes your mind survive that? And then what? It flies in the air for a bit and gets into a baby or something?

There's magical thinking and then there's this, it's like you don't even have an hypothesis for us to refute, you are just blindly asserting something because you are (rightfully) terrified of dying. Might as well drop the pretense and believe there's gonna be an eternal paradise with millions of virgins just for you, why not? It's about as likely as your mind magically surviving your brain dying, what a fucking clown you are.
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>>489061144
I have a strong feeling that we will see the ones we love again.
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>>489061925
Do you have any evidence that nothing happens? We don't know that anything happens but we also don't know that nothing happens. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
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>>489062895
wonderful game
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in my life before birth i still called OP a faggot and a nigger



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