https://www.ualberta.ca/en/folio/2024/11/weight-loss-drug-found-to-shrink-heart-muscle.html>Ozempic, known medically as semaglutide, was originally designed to help adult patients with type 2 diabetes control their blood sugar. However, this drug — and a host of others in this class of medication — are also being touted for their effectiveness as an anti-obesity medication.>Using mice for the study, the researchers found that heart muscle also decreased in both obese and lean mice. The systemic effect observed in mice was then confirmed in cultured human heart cells.LMAAOOOOOOO, fucking fatties thought they could cheat system. "I can't believe this miracle drug works without any side effects bro". Nope, enjoy your heart attacks bitches. You should have just cut 500 calories a day and taken a brisk walk instead and you would have lost 10lbs a month.
Will it work against the heart thickening from roids?
You don't want muscles in your heart, you want a nice loose heart. Ozempic chads win again
>>489073417Damn, Big Lenny could have used some of that
>>489073417shrinking your heart is a good thing, enlarged hearts are very dangerous
>>489073417Not a hamplanet so I'm not personally invested in this ozempig thing, but couldn't you counteract the sides by doing lots of cardio?
>>489073567This, pushing blood through 20 miles more of arteries takes a bigger muscle
>>489073417I'd rather be dead than be fat tbqh
That's what you get for being a big pharma shill
>>489073417>cut 500 calories a dayThe funny part is that this would be easy if food quality increased.
I work in law in jew York city, a lot of big firms have cases against ozempic, it absolutely fucks you up, and destroys your muscle, which your heart is.
>>489073417THANK FUCKING GODFUCKINGGODLETSSS GOOOOO!!!! They killed all the fat fucks who were too stupid to count fucking calories
This means all the formerly fat bitches at my job (we get free ozempic) are going to die?Good.
>>489073417>There's no cheat easy way to lose weight>you actually need to lose your sin of gluttony and embrace the virtue of temperance ShockedCompletely shocked I tell you
>>489073480yep just keep loading up on pharma products, the side effects will counteract each other in the end.
>>489073417Total fatty death, and you thought winter vagina was bad! What a year this has been.
>>489073417>"I can't believe this miracle drug works without any side effects bro". I would say "imagine being stupid enough to trust the American medical industry" but these are also the same people who outright refuse to count calories and look at the CICO and Total Daily Expenditure formulas that best fit their body and daily activity level
>>489073417>it was ozempic all alongApologize.
>>489073417No wonder celebrities are dropping like fliesBetween this and the vax the would could be celebrity free in ten years
>>489074148It's kinda funny. Now that there's an easy way to do it, it's lit some kind of fire under my ass to do it the hard way.
>>489074148holy fuck I am a christian now
>>489074149
I took it, lost 80 pounds and have no health issues at all
you can fasting, do dnp, do t3+clen+cardio, you even can do tren+anavar but you shouldn't touch ozempig
>>489074398Lost 60 this year so far without. Just cut sugar and that was enough.
>>489073659> Fat Fucks> Doing cardioAnon, I ...
guess why kike never took this piss
>>489073417It bothers me that fat people are buried in coffinsFat carcasses should be dumped into nature however acceptability can be done without disturbing homeostasis
>>489073659If the cheese golems ever did cardio, we wouldn't be having these problems in the first place
>98% of results from mouse models don't translate to humans at allinb4 "source" I'm a researcher and spend weeks in a lab for months on end
>>489074495Ok that's cool too but my point is it's an option and works. I bet the shrinking heart is due to people taking it and not working out at all thinking it's enough. Shrinking heart happens if you sit all day
>>489074610>didnt read the image
>>489074148Fuck off, christcuck. They need the Virtue of Fortitude, which you meek slave cult can't provide
>>489073659Yes, this was the main finding of the study. They looked at quality of weight loss vs quantity and found that those taking ozempic often neglected exercise and nutrition and therefore experienced muscle loss (including in heart tissue). The lesson is that ozempic only reduces appetite, so the onus is still on patients to get the fundamentals straight — getting adequate protein intake and doing a mix of cardio and strength training to maintain cardiovascular health and lean body mass.
>>489073417so it cures and enlarged heart?
>>489073417All these drugs come at a cost, even something as simple as testosterone. Nothing is free, Full Metal Alchemist was right.
>>489073417>LMAAOOOOOOO, fucking fatties thought they could cheat system. "I can't believe this miracle drug works without any side effects bro".Yeah well. They were warned well enough about big pharma from covid. Anyone who trusted the science aftet that was secretly suicidal. That is why so many normies are taking so many meds now although a lot of them went through with actual suicide after the election.
>>489074495That’s cool, but statistically, you’re almost certain to gain it all back within 2 years, probably with interest. Sorry.
>>489073417>>489073630All of the vaxx injured from the covid jab should take ozempic to reverse the myocarditis.
Why do people get so angry that some other people found a way to lose weight?
>>489074893the only way to really lose weight is to get fitjust transforming yourself into a skeleton isnt the way to go - even if it worked
>>489073417HA I KNEW ITYou just can't trust any new medicine any more, nobody tests shit any more
>>489074893Because the best way to lose weight is to eat less and exercise more. These drugs are really hedonism enablers.
>>489073417please shut up, not having fatties around taking up 3 seats in an airplane is worth it
>>489073417A shame. I wouldn't mind fatties getting a miracle drug to get thinner. I find fat so incredibly unattractvie. >LMAAOOOOOOO, fucking fatties thought they could cheat system.It'd be a rather mild cheat. Not overeating is not much of an achievement.
>>489073480>Of additional importance, it has been shown in previous studies that GLP1-RAs can reduce cardiac mass that was induced by persistent prohypertrophic stimuli,7,8 thus conferring benefit.…actually, yes. We just found the cheat code /fit/ bros
>>489074893Imagine if instead of supplying evil jews with extra money after they experiment on children you simply stopped eating like a lardass and walk from point A to B.Wouldn't that be better?
>>489075014No you can take ozempic I personally did it.>>489075041The "best way" to lose weight is to eat less and ozempic helps with that.This is just typical boomer "new thing upsets me because it's not like the way I did things" thinking.
>>489074893I guess it marginally devalues normal people. If everyone's thin, you being thing does not make you any more attractive than anyone else.
>>489075147You think evil jews don't own protein power companies and whatever supplements you are on? Nice picking and choosing there.
>>489075151I can't wait until there's criminal liability for false testimonials on websites. Where it's illegal to market pharmaceuticals in any context.
>>489075190I don't take any supplement and I haven't even mentioned anything about them I simply told you to be a normal person, are you sure all those drugs haven't also lowered your IQ to 70?
>>489074893The more people do this the weaker our population overall becomes. All you have to do is count calories. Don’t even have to exercise.
>>489075229>I can't be wrong other people must be lying>>489075294>I don't take any supplementCool but you do take protein powder and millions of other people not you take supplements and I don't see concern trolling.You are both boomers who gets angry at new things. That's it. Millennials all are slowly turning into this shit.
>>489074127one can only hope
>>489075451>The more people do this the weaker our population overall becomesNo it's not because you are literally losing weight
>>489073986I work in law and am confirming.Most of the lawsuits right now are gastroparesis - stomach paralysis. Long-term - possibly permanent. Continues after medication is stopped.Vomiting multiple times per day for possibly the rest of your life. Malnutrition.Super fun shit. Over 1,000 cases in the MDL now.
>>489075505Yes, I guarantee you're a shill
>>489075014>the only way to really lose weight is to get fitwrong, the best way to lose weight is to eat less processed foods as well as sugary and oily food, eat more whole foods and finally exercise
>>489073417Well, it's mrna technology, so that isn't surprising in anyway.
>>489073982Yea but we need to feed 500 million slaves in 2024 with the same agricultural output we had in 1950 for 200 million slaves. As long as the slaves can do their job and die at retirement age, its working as intended
Do you guys remember in the 90s when the FDA approved fen-phen for weight loss until it was found to cause heart damage? That was cool.
>>489074726Which is true for all forms of calorie reduction. The fatcels in this thread that can't afford the cheat code are, as usual, retards.
the benefits of shedding 200 lbs probably outweigh the negative effects of heart shrinkage
>>489075190I literally am not taking ANY supplements or "protein shit" or anything like that. Genuine proper food is all you need. Why are mutts always so clueless about real food, has goyslopMCgoyslop destroyed their brains?
>>489073417Just cut calories fucking fatsos
>>489074726if you're taking a fat loss drug you're not exercising because you're 300 pounds
>>489075451If you count calories and don't exercises you'll get the exact same heart mass reduction the ozempic users do. It's caused specifically by lack of protein and exercises.
>>489075580No. I am not some angry boomer that hates change.>>489076075>I literally am not taking ANY supplements or "protein shit" or anything like thatGreat but millions all across the planet do so where is the concern trolling for that?
thats called a rugpullozempic pull ozemped
>>489075783Eating more whole foods and less processed foods increases the bacteria in your gut that produces GLP-1.
>>489076115That's exactly what the drug makes you do though.
>>489073659Yeah but if you were the type to do cardio you wouldn't need ozempic in the first place.
>>489076254Cutting calories doesn’t destroy your heart tissue. This is like saying steroids function like a protein shake. Totally disingenuous
When will normans understand there are no free lunches? Everything has a price. This is even true with all recreational drugs. KETO/OMAD with light exercise and weight training is the most effective pathway for fats to get down to a healthy weight and then they can just transfer to a much less restrictive low carb diet and since they aren't fat fucks they can do more physical activities as hobbies (bike riding, going to the beach...etc) which will make their lifestyle so much more manageable.>DON'T BE A FAT FUCK IT'S DISGUSTING AND REPULSIVE!!!DON'T BE A FAT FUCK IT'S DISGUSTING AND REPULSIVE!!!>DON'T BE A FAT FUCK IT'S DISGUSTING AND REPULSIVE!!!
>>489075949Your body produces GLP-1 already dingus. Fen-phen was because the FDA got lazy and decided that two existing approved drugs could be combined without further study. I know nuance is challenging for the mentally retarded but at least try to avoid blatant false equivalencies.
People are just lazy and don't like being told that the only way to lose weight naturally and safely is to stop eating crappy food. You don't become fat for not exercising, you get fat for what you eat and I'm proof of that, I don't exercise and I'm not fat.
>>489073417This may actually be beneficial in left ventricular hypertrophy.
>>489073417This could actually be good for people with enlarged hearts. Ozempic cant stop winning.
>>489074610Researchers are fucking midwit trash
>>489073417Sounds like that actually may confer benefits to those that develop hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. Op is a retard>big heart must be good
>>489076337Neither does this. This was just one study and in the study ~90% of the cases were with mice. Stop being a boomer that hates new things just because they are new
>>489076192I don't know, maybe they should stop funding the supplement jew and drug jew?
>>489076337Cutting calories without exercising or consuming adequate protein is exactly how you lose muscle mass.
>>489076376There is literally no negative impact to you personally with people taking this and you still get irrationally mad like some insane boomer>>489076450People aren't advocating for that thoogh
>>489073480It's literally the cure for enlarged heart caused by the vax.We're saved vaxxsisters!
>>489076376Then you almost certainly have below average muscle mass and reduced cardiovascular health.
>>489076440Id tell you to kill yourself but you already have
>>489073659If they did lots of cardio, they wouldn't need ozempic.
>>489073417No surprise. You can't get something for nothing.
>>489073417>take drug that effectively forces fasting>take for months>surprised when all muscles shrink including heartDaily reminder that fasting is extremely healthy, should be done regularly, but should not be done for long periods of times nor should it be done in repeating cycles within a month.Even after 12 hours your amino acids have all depleted, you are using muscle tissue to sustain heart and basic life functions.Your body can sustain this for a few days, the first limiting amino acid will be glycine which is 30% of your body mass.You will begin to have sleeping problems and tendon pain as your body uses all glycine just to keep the stomach and lungs healthy.Eventually though skin problems, gum problems will happen, soon after this the muscle problems begin.Wouldn't be surprised if ozempic also causes permanent neurological damage. Since lack of digestion would also result in less b vitamins daily.
>>489073417>Heart gets fuel solely from surrounding fat>chemically remove fat>What could go wrong
>>489076539Myocarditis doesnt cause hypertrophy; it causes edema. It wouldnt reverse it.
>>489074385Lmao, I get this >>489074385
>>489076611Nope perfectly fit. Get checked up and blood work every 6 monthsGotta love /pol/ cognitive dissonance>"heh you think the vaxx is good for you because some studies said it prevents Covid yea go "trust the science cuck"">"this one study says ozempic might shrink the heart in a small amount of people trust the science fellow pedes!"
>>489073417Lose a lot of weight, heart gets smaller, also. Could just be proportional. Like what if they just had an enlarged heart due to being so fat (congestive heart failure). I don't need a shortcut like Ozempic so I don't care what it does. Read the label and take your pig medicine, lardasses. Instead of diet and exercise. Who needs a modicum of self control when you've got the latest science?
>>489073417this whole thing reminds me of olestra, the chemical they added to chips and junk food to make them less harmful and it just gave people chronic diarrhea for the rest of their lives
>>489076982>heh the flu? Who needs antibiotics I will just tank it or die I am not weakThis is how insane you retards sound right now
>>489076969You're shilling for pharmaceutical products on /pol/. Kill yourself
Every "diet pill" the FDA approves gets yanked off shelves after awhile because oopsie doopsie turns out it had really really bad side-effects up to and including death. I sure am glad the FDA exists to protect us from Big Pharma poisoning us!Just wait until news of what the clot shot does to you drops when the 71 year blackout drops
>>489073480>can I even out my uppers with downers?I see no problem, I think it's healthy to balance stimulants with depressants.
>>489077157You take those products when you are sick you retarded boomer you are picking and choosing what is bad.
>>489077037chow down wide load
>>489076659I imagine Wegovy we eventually get a much lower max dosage. These retards just shotgun a months worth in a single injection and don't eat for days. Still better than off label use of Adderall for weight loss at least.
>>489077201Ozempics been on the market for a decade and is literally just a chemical your body already produces. It's not going anywhere. It will probably get a bit more regulated on dosing and criteria for use.
>>489077475I lost weight thanks to ozempic. It works and that angers you because you are an aging millennial who hates anything different
>>489074893Same reason why normal people without mental health issues are against steroids. It makes your muscles big and you can recover faster, even on a shit diet. Internally, you're blasting every organ with man made chemicals and ingredients and you're body is working overtime 24/7 trying to keep you alive. People that did it for years can't even make testosterone on their own without drugs. That's why a lot of them become trannies. Ozempic will keep off the weight but at what cost? Fat people have an eating addiction. They're gluttons. They're still going to eat like shit. People don't care until they get a serious health problem, then all of the sudden it's the world's fault. I say this as an ex fat that disciplined myself and lost over 100lbs the right way. I may have permanent conditions that I have to live with but at least my joints don't hurt and my heart isn't going to give out anytime soon.
>>489077037>Antibiotics >Influenza virusKek you're the exact kind of retard that caused MRSA outbreaks.
*tick* *tock* *tick* *tock* ...
>>489076525>There is literally no negative impact to you personally with people taking this and you still get irrationally mad like some insane boomerYeah I may sound a bit mad but that's only because I lean towards more natural solutions and I find it mind boggling that people don't see it that way as well and instead choose for expensive and potentially dangerous medications for something they can absolutely control. But you're right it doesn't affect me, you do you.
>>489077617No its an anlogue of something your body produces. Sort of like cortisol and prednisone
>>489077682>aging millennial>>>489077361>boomerSo this is the narrative your boss gave you eh?
>>489077682I lost 40 pounds from not eating fast food and not drinking soda. All thanks to Dr. Chud warning me about goyslop and goyslurp. Everyone says how much better I look now. Target weight achievement unlocked simply by NOT doing stupid shit. In hindsight, would you recommend I go get a prescription for a diabetus drug instead?
>>489076969The truth is always worse than what the studies tell you. If they say it's good, it's bad, and if they say it's bad, it's terrible.
>>489077740>instead choose for expensive and potentially dangerous medications for something they can absolutely control.For the same reasons they chose garbage food and sedentary lifestyles."Create problem, sell solution" is an infinite money hack that will only get worse because it's a positive selection pressure for irresponsibility caught in a feedback loop
>>489073417Another fen-fen fiasco.
soon enough americans be waking up dead>https://www.ualberta.ca/en/folio/2024/11/weight-loss-drug-found-to-shrink-heart-muscle.html
>>489074149based and bio-mutant pilled
>>489078209This is Eli Lily spreading negative info at Pfizer. (Lily makes terzepitide —- ZepBound)
>>489077692What you said about ozempic as a negative factor is already present in people who lose weight the old fashion way aka they end up putting it back on again. That is not unique to ozempic. It's always been a high statistic.>>489077699Unless you have decided to take nothing created by the pharmaceutical company your entire life which includes doctor visits, you are a hypocrite.>>489077740Ok that's good that you made that choice but there is nothing wrong with others doing it and if you get mad at other people doing it, it's because you are a boomer who hates anything new.This thread is nothing but low self esteem weirdos mad that others took a step in improving themselves but did it in a way they don't improve. This is retarded gate keeping pushed by old men.>>489078069It's the truth.>>489078083Good for you anon but I lost a lot too using ozempic and if that upsets you then you have personal issues you need to work out.>>489078140Again, that can apply to any medication you take but you guys only draw the line here and the vaccine it seems
This is a feature not a bug, they want you to work into your 60s paying taxes then die before you can claim a pension.
>>489078447Pharma pfaggots do shill here. For whatever reason. Really became obvious during covid.
>>489073417nope, it's the vax
>>489078581>whatever reasonThey're just money whores
>>489078555Genuine shill. Kill yourself
>>489078751Again if you take anything created by the pharmaceutical industry or even see a doctor, you are a hypocrite
>>489074717lol seethe kike faggotChrist is King
>>489075783you can eat shitloads of trash if you burn all of the associated caloriesdid it myself for a whileofc, eating healthy is better nevertheless
>>489073417Yeah, I refused to take it because I know it causes your body to eat muscle at an alarming rate. It eats more muscle than conventional weight loss by a huge margin.
>>489078848Kill yourself shill
Now do Monjoru. Ozempic didn't do shit for me so I'm trying Monj now.
>>489078555>Unless you have decided to take nothing created by the pharmaceutical company your entire life which includes doctor visits, you are a hypocrite.This has to be the least scientific approach I've seen a shill effort-post.>IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO THE DOCTOR THEN YOU MUST AGREE WITH ME THAT THE LATEST WEIGHT LOSS DRUG IS SAFE AND EFFECTIVE!Nigger, please.
>>489077476Depends dude, IF fasting shows the same negatives as long term fasting.Reality is Zig Zag diet is the best diet for one simple reason.Body likes to have a surplus every few days.As long as the total caloric amount per week is less than the previous week, you will lose weight.However too many days in a row of negative surplus just has a risk of causing health problems.Of course I am arguing over months and years, you do a few days of fasting or a few months of IF the chance of you showing any negative is so abysmal it's not worth mentioning.However it's been a year now, people taking this daily, showing a constant negative surplus. Yeah good chance we will start seeing health problems.There are biological systems that only activate when a food surplus is gained, so overeating is not the monster we are all led to believe.It's daily overeating that is the problem and always has been.Eat well, move well, watch what you eat at times, allow yourself to enjoy food at other times.I really don't understand what is so hard to understand here for these people.
>>489073417just take roids
>>489078715It must be wild to have such a robust marketing budget that they can pay to send people here, of all places.
>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2452302X24002869according to that pic it involves massive tissue shrinking. its remarkable they use the word "atrophy", since you can shrink muscles just by dehydration alone, and theyll remain 100% functional. atrophy, on the other hand, implies not only structural but functional alteration. they all cooked frfr.
>>489078952Again if you take anything created by the pharmaceutical industry or even see a doctor, you are a hypocrite>>489079012>This has to be the least scientific approach I've seen a shill effort-post.Yea anon sure my post is and the guys getting mad that ozempic works and people take it and shouldn't just because they never used it aren't.
>>489079180Again, kill yourself shill
>>489073417That's a good thing though. Fats get enlarged hearts and enlarged hearts are bad.
>>489078951It was supposed to be a diabeetus drug. Using it for weight loss was off-label until (((recently))). Gotta milk the goyim for every last penny of profit they can wring out of their latest abomination.
>>489073417Chicks will still do it which is hot. Weak hearted fuck dolls
>>489079220You are a hypocrite kike.
>>489079313Kill yourself. Yell you boss all you got was told to kill yourself
>>489074441Yoy can take straight steroids and take Ozempic to reduce its affects on the heart. Win/win.
>>489079313You suck at your job. Pfizer ain't sending their best.
>>489079380>Yell you bossKek it's a pajeet shill. Makes sense now.>>489079453I wish I worked there.
>>489073986>>489075571Can you go after the marketing firms for this shit?They advertise this on boomer TV, and it's shilled by podcasters and shilled here.The boomer TV commercials explain side effects. But you can bet the web advertising campaign doesn't
>>489073417Shorten your lifespan to get hot enough to blow me, fat women!
>>489079613Why haven't you killed yourself? You're shilling and not even getting paid. Fucking pathetic
>>489079295The medical dose is like 2.5mg or something and people are taking 10mg
>>489079807Good morning sirs.
>>489079947Nice meme. Now kill yourself shill faggot
>>489073659I knew a hamplanet with a massive rack. She wanted to lose weight, so she got them chopped off. Now she's just an ugly ball of shit. Dumb as fuck, anon. Fats are dumb as fuck.
>>489080024How much have you stolen from the food pantries today pajeet?
OMG IS THAT A NEW DRUG?IM GOONA BOOST!>>489074149Based and three stooges syndrome
>>489073417This would just counter the enlarging hearts of fatties no?
>>489073417Who knew injecting snake venom would be bad for you?
>>489079295>It was supposed to be a diabeetus drugIf it fucks with your heart it shouldn't be allowed for that either.There are plenty of medicine already on the market for that
wait dude what's Niko avocado gonna do??!
>>489073417fatties who lose weight look like shit anyway. they will always look like fat people who lost weight.
>>489074610Why can't most "studies" be replicated
>>489073630So are hearts that are too small to adequately pump blood through the body.
The problem with food in America is a lot of the convenient options are high calorie and low filling. It's not about counting calories, people just hit a lot of calories per meal and still feel hungry enough for a snack a couple hours after
>>489074717Lol, you can never change the fact Jesus loves you and died for your sinsGod is the same yesterday as he is still the same today and forever.
>>489075505Why take protein powder when you can just buy BBQ daily which is cheaper?
>>489073417To be fair, most have enlarged hearts anyway.
>>489074803>Nothing is freeExactly. Everything has a price. Maybe I'm a fool, but I've never had anything good that doesn't require me to pay my dues.I prefer paying in blood and sweat, it's better than permanent health losses.
>>489073417of course it does, it shrinks all the other muscles toogoing to spread this threadthank for the thread anonhttps://www.polnewscentral.com/hahahahahaha-ozempic-is-found-to-shrink-heart-muscle-in-humacheck out Lu and Bo live at 8pm est https://pnnamerica.com/
>>489073417implying fatties have muscles.Just use Ozempic already Mericans i tired of seeing fatties.
>>489081930>check out Lu and Bo live at 8pm est https://pnnamerica.com/This is just getting sad now
>>489073417>Satanic Celebs and Politicians are about to have heart attacks and heart failure.Winning.
>>489081064>died for you sinsHow pretentiousChristians sound like a bunch of hipsters. Why should I care if someone thinks they “died for my sins”Sins?Died for them?I don’t agree with your whole premise! >yeah man you’re like so fucked up because what you’ve done isn’t good enoughNo, what I’ve done is exactly right>yeah man you like, need someone to die for themHow does this make sense? Sounds like some pagan sacrifice ritualistic garbage.
Hahaha and retards were bitching and moaning at me for taking the magic yellow explosive pesticide to lose weight. I lost 60lb in 3 months 10 years ago and kept the weight off ever since. While everyone bulks during the wintertime, I take small doses and walk outside in a t-shirt and sweats in 20°F temps
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>>489079653I work for a lawyer who takes dangerous drug cases. I have never seen a marketing firm on a complaint. The primary defendants are always the drug manufacturers. Very occasionally, you'll see retailers like Amazon, Walmart, etc. listed on complaints for dangerous drug cases.Never seen a marketing firm as a defendant.Causes of action based on deceptive marketing are usually listed in the complaints but are directed towards the drug manufacturers, not marketing firms. I believe the assumption is that the drug manufacturers sign off on the marketing so they're ultimately responsible for it.
>>489075571any filings? pacer link?
>>489083541I don't have Pacer access.I get my information for # of cases out there from https://www.lawsuit-information-center.comTheir November update put the # of cases in the MDL at 1,221 pending lawsuits.For complaints, https://www.aboutlawsuits.com/ is a good resource. They always post actual complaints.https://www.aboutlawsuits.com/topics/ozempic/ will give you a lot of actual complaints if you want to read them.
>>489073630Depends how it’s shrinking or how it’s enlarged This study is in itself ontk a small look at what’s going on. Could be good. Fatties typically have big hearts because it’s harder to pump blood through all those fat ass capillaries in that fat tissue and so the heart must increase is mass to get the same result as a normal person. It may take 100 beats per minute to achieve 120/80 BP. An Olympic athlete has a big heart too but is extremely efficient at pumping blood. They would only need 60bpm to get the same 120/80. It’s likely though this is just adding the the already known fact that appetite goes down and thus protein intake goes down and slowly you break down muscle.
>>489082676You are a Zionist lapdog if you oppose Jesus Christ.
>>489076969Anon, vaccine hesitancy during COVID was driven by the studies that it caused things like heart inflammation. When I took my first and only booster, my heart swelled up to the size of a melon.This runs in line with that. People heralded ozempic as some miracle drug for the lazy. Now the obviously predictable side effects of a massively profitable magic weight loss drug are starting to come out. So yes, those who predicted this feel validated. And they are gloating.
>>489083470It's about time the marketing firms get theirs too.
>>489084991I imagine the drug manufacturers have lawyers who ultimately decide exactly what side effects the marketing does and does not warn about.The job of the marketing firms is just to put out a high-quality, attention-grabbing ad.
>>489077037That isn't equivalent at all. You're a novardisk shill treating ozempic like a necessity. You don't need ozempic to lose weight, period.
Any change to the size of the heart is a problem. but at the same time being fat is always more of a health problem
Fasting shrinks fat and muscles retards.
>>489073417>lose 100lbs of fat>heart no longer working itself to exhaustion every time you walk to the fridge>heart gets smallerThis is what you expect when a muscle is used less right?
starve anyone without giving them protein or exercise and their heart muscles will shrink
There were actual paid shills selling this shit to people on social media
>>489084991>>489085315To elaborate, the crux of these lawsuits is always "the drug manufacturers knew or should have known the drug raises the risk of X but failed to warn about it via its marketing and the drug's label."When this occurs, it's due to one of two things:>the drug manufacturer really didn't know about the risk because they inadequately tested the drug prior to selling it>the drug manufacturer knew about the risk but chose not to warn about it via its marketing and the drug's label because they made a calculated decision that the money they'd make off the drug prior to lawsuits being filed would outweigh the ultimate legal liabilityIn the second case, it's not the marketing firms who are willfully making the decision not to warn about side effect X. The drug manufacturer's lawyers are telling the marketing firms exactly what side effects to warn about and not warn about. In some cases, the drug manufacturer's lawyers will be fully aware of a particular risk, but choose to advise not to warn about it because they believe the ultimate liability in the end will be less than the profit made from the drug prior to the lawsuits.So, in the end, it's all on the manufacturer. There are a lot of examples of product liability lawsuits where internal company documents have come out showing the manufacturers have known for decades about side effects but chose not to warn about them. This is always because the manufacturers think they'll make more money off the product than they'll lose in eventual liability. Examples of this off the top of my head include talc/cancer litigation and paraquat/Parkinson's litigation.
>>489085797The "people" here do it for free
>>489073659if you do cardio why not lose weight by working out? you really think fat obese women would do any exercise?
>>489075115that's actually hugeDYEL's won't understand (this entire fucking board)
>>489084991As well as the alleged regulators who just rubber stamp the applications because half the people on the review board have significant investments in the company that made the thing and the other half are angling for a cushy lobbyist job after they retire.
>>489085616Note:>Using mice for the study, the researchers found that heart muscle also decreased in both obese and lean mice.
>>489075571Fatties wont care. They look good skinny now even if their colon shrivels up and falls out their asshole.
>>489076350Phentermine does less harm than Adderall/Ritalin. Fenfluramine on its own was bad from the start. Not gonna bother looking up the kikes who decided merging them together was a good idea, because it's gonna be the kikes nonetheless
>>489073417HA! I knew it! I've been telling people for months that we'll be seeing TV commercials asking if you've taken it and if yes get ready for a cash buyout.
>>489073417>phase 1: depopulate all the people so dumb they take experimental injections in exchange for a donut>step 2: depopulate all the people who cant control how much food they stuff in their mouthim kinda starting to like this whole great reset thing
>>489074385>>489076947I'm invincible
>>489083760I wonder if this is already priced in to the stock or not. Puts could be interesting, but if this is widely known...
>>489073417viagra damages your retina and smooth heart muscle.
>>489084200Good analysis
>>489073659>you're addicted to heroin?>the drug that hijacks your love and bonding hormones?>why don't you stop?
>>489089689saturated animal fats unironically lubricate your body. all your cell walls are made from saturated fats. your nervous system and brain is made from saturated fats. your hormones are all made from cholesterol.
>>489075115The real question is will it restore lost testicle mass from years of roids
>>489073417I was about to say BS but once I read the source I knew it was over for ozempicfags
>>489073417Maybe losing weight means the heart doesn't pump as hard and shrinks. Does it cure enlarged heart/congestive heart failure??
>>489090274That's an interesting thought. Stock prices will move when science comes out that will strongly influence a Daubert decision. Everything on cases like this, in the early stages, hinges on if the science is strong enough for an expert with a reputation strong enough to pass a Daubert ruling to be willing to argue in front of a court that the drug caused the relevant side effect.Right now there isn't definitive science that says Ozempic increases the risk of gastroparesis. One of the problems here is that it's a diabetes drug and diabetes can also cause gastroparesis. When it comes to potential plaintiffs who have diabetes, science may need to come out that specifically shows that Ozempic increases the risk of gastroparesis in diabetics.That being said, two things seem to point to a high possibility that the science is eventually favorable for plaintiffs in this litigation:>the sheer number of cases being filed>the fact that one of the drug's methods of action is literally slowing digestionBasically, the slowing of digestion is one of the ways the drug works. It's not hard to see how this can lead to delayed gastric emptying and gastroparesis.My guess is that it's partially priced into the stock, but that the stock will still move when science comes out which would strongly influence a Daubert ruling.
>>489075115Wouldant that require like injections directly into the heart tissue? Otherwise your just gonna BBQ your gainz and possibly get a side of forever barf.
>>489091566The issue is that it also caused cardiac degeneration in lean test subjects.
>>489074149>the side effects will counteract each other in the end.Kek.Underrated.>Doctor he's Flatlined!>I know...
>>489073417sweet, no more cardiomegaly
>>489073417https://pfizer.com/refunds
>>489073659I take ozempic and do a shitton of crossfit every day sans weekends>durr why take it if you excerciseBecause i could not stop stuffing my face, i was eating healthy and avoiding goyslop but my portions were massive, cant outrun the fork as you americans say
isn't having big hearts bad tho
>>489073417Fuck. My mom was taking ozempic for about 3 or 4 weeks, and the doctor said her blood sugar levels or A1C or whatever is better, but not quite where they want it, so they doubled her dose of ozempic about 10 days ago.Since the increase dose, she feels sick and can't breath while laying down and feels like she has to throw up but can't. Then she felt like she was having a heart attack went to ER, they can't find anything wrong other then "ozempic sometimes does this pancreatitis type stuff" then two days later (yesterday) called an ambulance she felt like she was having another heart attack and is now gonna quit the ozempicTLDR: My mom has been to the ER twice in the last week since they upped her ozempic
>>489075571Not surprised. When you take a drug and proliferate it through millions of people, daily, you will have issues. Especially one that requires self-administering an injection.Not to mention that the drug was initially not intended for this recreational use, but rather for diabetics.
>>489073417LOLIts like that old saying: "if it's too good to be true it like is"I don't get why people are so retarded that they can't exercise a bit and restrict calories. Losing weight the "old fashioned" way is infinitely more rewarding and it motivates one to keep the weight off through channelling the feeling of accomplishment, of victory. Taking a drug to lose weight is absolutely not rewarding and you will most likely fail long term. When you take a drug to lose weight you're not changing your behavior, you're not building yourself up, you only tear yourself down and remain weak!I was 225 lbs and at 19 I chose to lose weight and I've been 75 lbs lighter ever since.
>>489093560>and do a shitton of crossfit every day sans weekendsSounds like you're just expediting the heart failure. If you do crossfit a "shitton" you don't need ozemoic you moron. Also crossfit is for retards. Just do classic cardio and lift weights, on separate days of course. Also consume 200 grams of protein a day and you're golden.
>>489091191yes and your body makes fat when it needs to from carbs, palmitic acid
>>489094905Did you know that listed protein on nutrition labels is not total protein? It's only the protein your body can't make. So eggs have much more protein than what the FDA says.It takes nutrients to make nutrients and you will look like a vegan if you eat like that.
>>489094905Wowdid you learn that during college? That's very advanced knowledge.
>>489095047You know most people have never heard of whey and casein protein powder? I've heard countless people say HOW DO YOU GET SO MUCH PROTEIN? This is when I tell them I get 200 grams of protein a day. Lots of Turkey, chicken, eggs, milk, and protein powder do the trick. Its only like $30 a week for supplemental protein powder.
>>489073417>sources "cuz i say so"
>>489094545Probably a blessing in disguise if she's going to quit it for good now. Better to be on it for a few weeks and realize it's poison early than to take it at a low dose for years before realizing it's done irreversible damage to all of her organs.
>>489091638Even for potatoes? Those take no time to break down.
>>489076539vaxxie enlarged heart is from fluids building up in the tissue, not from excess cell growth, so it's just fucking their hearts up twice as bad. total fattie vaxxie death lmao
>>489095331The biggest benefit of whey is the convenience of consumption. It also has high bioavailability.
>>489073417>be fat and die of heart problems>be thin and die of heart problemsI know which one I’d pick
>>489073417>be less of an public eyesore>still die of a heart attack anywaysounds like a win-win to me
>>489095877fat because you get the freaks with daddy issuesverification not required
>>489085840Nah, I'm with anon, (((marketers))) are how you flip the board on this shite game, these whores don't know dick about this shit, and they avoid the doctors like a plague, these commercials like ro.co have a champagne pop "Roooooo(e)!", like it's fun, and the side effects are practically "talk to your doc if it's right for you, FUCKEM
>>489073417Unironically, is there a drug that is the opposite of this shit? Something that will get me to eat more? I am skelly mode and always have been. I work out but I don't really gain much weight because I never have an appetite. I also don't smoke weed anymore.
>>489075571>gastroparesis - stomach paralysisTell them to gigadose on Thiamine (vit B1) in all available forms. Mite work :^)
>>489073480No, it'll make it harder to move the thicker blood around.What you ought to think about is what happened with the blood of vaccinated people.
>>489097244Dood, weed
>>489073417Isn't this very beneficial for roiders with an enlarged heart?
>>489096834I can understand the argument that marketing firms have a duty of care to warn about side effects they know or should know about. I don't necessarily disagree with this on a moral level.Alls I'm saying is that's not the way it actually works in the real world. It would be a very tall task to convince courts to establish a precedent that marketing firms need to exercise the same level of due diligence in terms of keeping up to date on the latest science regarding pharmaceuticals that pharmaceutical manufacturers need to exercise.Right now, if a marketing firm gives Novo Nordisk an ad that warns about gastroparesis, Novo Nordisk is just going to reject it and hire a different firm. This would obviously change if courts ruled that marketing firms need to exercise the same level of due diligence as pharmaceutical manufacturers.
>>489086054It is. It means you can effectively counter the #1 most negative side effect from supernatural amounts of test and DHT. Which imo is heart health because you can't do anything against it ruining your heart health.
>>489073630>RETARD takeWhy am I not surprised?
>>489098256>It would be a very tall task to convince courts to establish a precedent that marketing firms need to exercise the same level of due diligence in terms of keeping up to date on the latest science regarding pharmaceuticals that pharmaceutical manufacturers need to exercise.That would be really fucking hilarious. They'd totally deserve that too. Marketing firms would actually need to hire consultancies on whether a product is actually worth their while to market to.Knowing how slimy they are, they'd set up a web of sacrificial shell companies to eat the losses when things go wrong.
>>489084804>When I took my first and only booster, my heart swelled up to the size of a melon.Yikes, are you fine now? How did you get diagnosed? Can you run long distances or do your limbs swell up? I was forced to take a dose of the chink vax, had a lot of "anxiety" accompanied of palpitations and hypertension (the first blood panel I got done after showed that I was suprisingly healthy still, high HDL, very low A1C, for example). Doctors never "found anything" and only now 2+ years after I'm almost back to normal, pretty sure I had some myocarditis in there. I wonder how many years or decades we lost with this. I'm super health-conscious now.
>>489074536>>489074601Once you're that fat it becomes embarrassing to be seen in public so they don't take walks or go to the gym. Easier to stay inside where no one sees their disgusting body>>489074803>Nothing is free, Full Metal Alchemist was rightThere's always an equivalent exchange. Only God can get something from nothing. For everyone else there is a cost.
>>489098570Johnson & Johnson keeps trying the Texas Two Step re: talc and the courts keep telling them to fuck off.
>>489099358Using talcum powder always seemed like a black person thing to me. The only people I've known who used "baby powder" are blacks
>>489074385hysterical pregnancy?!
>smegmatude
>the ozempic in my heart fighting the vaccine in my blood, over who gets to kill me first
>>489078209Likely crap.Nothing is as bad as being fat
>>489084200how much do you know about fasting with it? i took 2 doses of zepbound and i was able to fast very easily. from my understanding long periods of fasting helps preserve muscle as the body cannot detect when food is coming?i still feel pretty strong on it. was able to work at my job in a warehouse sweatshop while fasted for 3 days.
>>489076654a lot of roider fags are cycling a generic zepbound for cuts. they love the shit. but true cadio and fatasses don't mix like two dicks and no chick
>>489083028Sulphur?
>>489073417>trusted jewsi mean, what did you think was gonna happen
>>489073417I thought only enlarged heart was bad. Shrinked is bad too now?
>>489073417better to live a shorter skinnier life than a longer fatter one
>>489100650He's talking about DNP It effectively tells your mitochondria to dump heat as a waste product to the point of it still being recommend as an emergency drug for preppers who expect to be in negative temperature environments without a heating source. Dangerous for the liver however there has been sparse research about its anti-cancer ability since in a way its an alternative to ketosis. known side affect is permanent weight loss ability as in you will forever make your metabolism higher then its baseline. https://www.healthline.com/health/dnp-steroid#origins
>>489100800>WHAT!? YOU MEAN ATROPHIED HEART MUSCLES ARE LESS CAPABLE OF FUNCTIONING!?Cunt...
>>489100886>DNPYep
>>489099857>The only people I've known who used "baby powder" are blacksBlacks have this weird tribal hivemind. It's hard to burn them out of a habit, but once they do, they never forgive. It's hard to get them into a habit too, but once it sticks, it's hard to get rid of. They do this all at once too.
>>489073417They just need to rediscover a love of Christmas.
>>489101187Not worth it imo just buy a rowing machine and get on that for an hour a day or swim for an hour and you can set your dietary baseline to 4k calories a day and eat whatever garbage you want too. Also what's the dosage and how long does the effect last?
>>489101377Megalocardia oftentimes reduces the ability to pump blood. There is muscle where the blood should be filling.
>>489073417Counting calories to lose weight is genuine retardationstop eating artificial food.boom. problem solved.you think people weren't struggling with obesity all throughout human history, simply because they counted their calories? Are you guys actual fucking dense moronic special needs?
>>489101483Yeah the rich people where fat on fruit, honey and alchol before there was cane sugar introduced from the colonies then everyone could get fat.
>>489094790Apparently it shuts down the reward pathways so now theyre aiming it at alcoholics and the like
>>489074610Why are you torturing mice then bro?
>>489094790Good job on the weight too, although>150lbsI hope youre an above average height woman
>>489073417Allopathy is always harmful. Psychos that only have cutting, burning and poisoning in their toolkit do not have a grasp on health.
>>489074893I guess because, at the end of the day, the best cure for putting too many calories into your mouth is to put less calories into your mouth? But no, let's get a hose and suck those suckers directly off your belly. Let's make a drug that also wastes away your heart. How many more man made horrors must be bought and paid for? Not eating is literally for free, and the best thing is you don't even have to do anything.
>>489074893Does the waste ozempic get filtered out of the water?
>>489100886Learn something new every day. Thanks anons
>>489073480if so then taking roids would be the cure for fatties taking ozempic
>>489073417you got this from raw egg nationalist on twitter. you're a kike shill. kys
>>489102666Of course not. You'll drink it along with your daily dose of lithium and birth control.
>>489073417Sounds like it's stack with clebbuterol to keep down the life ending cardio hypertrophy.
>>489073417Going to be sad/funny when all these ozempic skeletons start dropping dead exactly 10 years after they used it.
>>489075115No fucking way.... Besides caloric intake I don't think it's impossible to use one in a way to counter act some side effects of the other.
>>489086054If only /fit/ was more active when Im lurking during the night.
>>489075115>…actually, yes. We just found the cheat code /fit/ brosWe're so close to the perfect stackSo close
>>489103275You can make it as active as you want it to be. I miss the days of the fitness shills when we got Rich Piana and others that brought hype to the fitness scene. Yeah if you want activity you either need to throw bullshit out there in a thread or talk shit about a certain part of fitness. In alot of times doing so will net you actual actionable information. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MemrR1R8tRg
>>489093560Based and same>t. lost 70 lbs on tirzepatide
just don't fucking eat and walk for 1-2 hours a day. I lost 30kgs in under 4 months.fucking retards.
>>489074717>le atheist vs christcuck meme>they are both the same???
>>489074879>All of the vaxx injured from the covid jab should take ozempic to reverse the myocarditis.
IT WASN'T THE VACCINE YOU FUCKING CHUDS IT WAS THE OZEMPIC NOT THE VACCINE THE VACCINE IS SAFE AND EFFECTIVE YOU CHUD
