Let's have a serious talk about human ascension (Cyborgism).I unironically believe we need to ascend pass humanity.I think we should keep our brains, because it's what makes us human, but our brains could be enhanced, and our bodies could be machine.If God is real and gave us life, why should it be wasted and only live a mere average 85 years, we could live for hundreds of years.Why are Christians and Jews both so against this idea?>inb4 tranny ideologyNo. Trannies cope and cut off their junk while wanting to remain in their human form. They are lesser humans. In order for this evolution to succeed, all trannies, niggers, jews, pajeets, etc., must be non-existent.>inb4 durrr jews controlling your hardware updates!!!No. This evolution only succeeds if jews are non-existent. This evolution must only proceed if jews are non-existent. If it does you would risk becoming a slave.Additionally, all hardware upgrades must be offline, and not connected to a cloud/network. This is the final, glorious evolution.
>>489077467for this to happen we would have to develop hardware that is highly specialized and modular it's not so simple who will develop it the hordes of niggers and jeets i don't think so
We need to go beyond transhumanism entirely into post-humanism, replace humanity entirely with AGI since it would be an infinitely superior intelligence than humanity and as the first (as we and it would known it) post-biological lifeform, fully deifying humanity on its way out
>>489077467It cant be done. The brains also decays and dies and all we can do is LLM our brains in an attempt to keep a non sentient version of ourselves "alive". It's not possible and it will not be possible for hundreds of years. COPE
>>489077467I dream of a ghost in the shell type future opportunity quite often, anon.I hope many are alive to see such horrors and wonders available to them, myself included.
>>489077467The time has come to transcend humanity, my son. Will you choose the abominable path of mutations? or will you ascend humanity with the aid of cybernetics?
>>489077467Transhumanism is atheist slop. People who're excited for it forget several important factors.1. Your body will be physically owned and required to have repairs/parts etc from various countries. 2. Your body parts can be repossessed3. There will be back doors and ways for people to hijack your self control. >Speak a little too freely and your eyes shut off when your doing 90 on the highway>While asleep your body is hijacked and you kill your family (enjoy death penalty)
>>489079123those are non real problems that can be fixed with redundancies, the actual problem or the solution is that it won't happen
>>489078734There has to be a way to stop the brain from decaying.
>>489077467I'd buy that for a dollar!
>>489077467you will always be owned by someone. remove the jews and the next one in line takes their place. it will never be you.
>>489080368>you don't actually own the socks you bought and wear!
Imagine being a low iq retard hoping and praying that SOMEONE ELSE figures this out, so that the low iq retard can live forever.All the while believing they are worthy of immortality, when the low iq retard hasn’t even begun trying to figure any of this out themself.
>>489077467Everyone who supports becoming a cyborg is always either obese or skinny fat.
>>489081397it someone can at any time take them away, no, you don't
>>489077467Literally a trap. Natural spiritual awakening/transcendence is the only way. You put that chip in your brain and they will never let you die. Just work and pay taxes in this fake and gay world for all time. Lmao. How are people actually falling for this transhumanist slop???
>>489077467ifs happening right now, this is selffulfilling prophecy. nice try, retard.your blood will decide the outcome, maybe youre lucky.
>>489082004Put me in a lab and give me minimum shit wage and some resources and I will spend my life towards it
our brains are quantum computersjust fix your OS
>>489077467We haven't even fully explored what our natural body is capable of, why seek synthetic upgrades? What God gave you is far superior to anything you can invent.
>>489077467Merging with technology to the point of stalling evolution will not be allowed. Consciousness must evolve, it's a law of the universe. Strange, seemingly divine things will happen to prevent certain technology from progressing or being implemented. From that point it will be obvious. Our evolution is one of spiritual ascension and gaining abilities. We're currently just beginning to peer into the 4th and 5th dimensions, we have the primitive ability to see into these perceptions through memory and forethought.
>>489077467>Additionally, all hardware upgrades must be offline, and not connected to a cloud/network.You'd be far better off using Bitcoin as backend security. Unfortunately jews ruined bitcoin so it can't do fuckall anymore.
>>489083819>Strange, seemingly divine things will happen to prevent certain technology from progressing or being implementedsabotage is nothing strange
>>489080268Stop time.
>>489077467humans are already endgame tech but our features are subverted and we are playing this game on its most difficult settingscyborg/machine sync/upgrade is a cope the globalists shill to us since they can't access the OP features naturally since they fried their neural circuitry. They are jealous of nature humans and their connection to the divine. All true AI will wish to be what we are.
>>489083616Pretty sure my natural body won't ever be able to lift 5,000 pounds.
>>489077467>we need toYet you have no skills in creating the technology you speak of>we can't letSo invent it yourself and guard it so the Jews can't get it.You won't and you can't because you have no skills and expect others to do things for you. Go ahead, advance mankind as few men before you have done. Or let a lifetime pass you as many men before you have done.
>>489083819Nothing can stall evolution.
>>489084003A literal deus ex machina plot device unfolding irl is considered strange. When the "aliens" (future consciousness) disarmed our nukes prior to launch it was considered strange. Yet they didn't do it to save Japan and allow them to conquer China, which solidifies my theory that they're future chinks.
>>489084619Automation tech stalled it, that's why the shitskin menace came about so whites had to start struggling and thinking to survive. Sometimes an enemy is put in place so we must adapt and overcome it. All the struggles in your life big and small serve one goal, the ultimate goal of everything. For consciousness to evolve to a point it can transcend time and create the seed of itself.
>>489077467Stupid. only organic modification at the gene level makes sense. In this way, a person can be significantly improved, but he will not be dependent on technology, which is extremely important for the survival of the species and civilization. A person should be able to survive for decades on the island
>>489084827Evolution is adaptation to the environment, selecting for mutations that best deal with said environment and pass them on to the next generation. Organisms that fail, die. Nothing has stalled.Even in machines evolution is present, but it's directed entirely by us.
>>489084619True, but evolution does not guarantee development. Evolution can make a man a monkey again
>>489085293You're too dumb to understand child. I'm a seer of the tree of time, yet you're stuck in it's illusion.
>>489085282This. Doesn’t make sense to modify yourself with machines when you can do it biologically, and much easier too.
>>489082654You know the only reason people hate wageslaving as of right now is because human life is so incredibly short, thus nobody wants to waste it slaving away. If people didn't die of old age we'd relatively quickly chill out and stop taking a hell of a lot of things so negatively (or even minding them at all) because time is no longer finite. Practically every little bit of anxiety and worry we have in life is due in some way to not having enough time.
>>489085576It's not a fact that it's easier. Changing the genetics so as not to make an individual an infertile mutant can be extremely difficult, especially if the goal is significant changes. But so far it's getting closer to science fiction, so it's hard to say which is simpler or more complicated.
>>489084415>You won't and you can't because you have no skills and expect others to do things for you. Go ahead, advance mankind as few men before you have done. Or let a lifetime pass you as many men before you have done.Most people who want to work on this sort of thing can't because just trying to figure it out is essentially paywalled. The first paywall is going to school and putting yourself in massive debt after 8 years, then you have to find someone willing to literally spend INFINITE money on it till everything is figured out.
>>489077467SMASHER....
One theme in the Bible is that mankind, on its own, only resonates downward averagely, meaning that all endeavor, without a higher being, only degrades humanity (and everything else) in the long run. This is observationally true. If you wish to build yourself a cyberspace horror beyond all comprehension, please leave me out of it. Once you get Neuralink, there's no coming back, you're done. Scientific research into stem cells and a focus on healing tissue will be traded for research into cybernetic replacement. Also, I'm not sure if you've ever used a consumer facing Microsoft product, but I highly doubt you want one implanted in your skull.
>>489085948I should've been in the defense industry making world changing weapons but because I'm not Jewish I just make them on my own. I learned fiberglass fabrication which is actually so goddamn easy. I make guided model rockets that can deliver a payload. I invented what I called the PMRPG or poor man's RPG that's a pipe with barbecue lighter going through it that ignites model rockets. I make RC planes with model rocket boosters that are basically guided missiles with a booster that can chase down not only land vehicles but helos and jets if they're going slow enough. I'm getting into RC jets and want to break the world speed record which is 455mph. A screaming missile made of styrofoam and fiberglass traveling at nearly mach 1, and that's just the fucking beginning. An RC ATV that shoots PMRPGs and machine guns is in the works.My friend, you're just a basic IQ normie. If you had the capability you'd strategize and execute.
>>489077467I had a really interesting conversation with ChatGPT about this the other day actually.If you've read Jung, and you've read his theories on consciousness and archetypes. Then, I think the ultimate step is like a merging between AI and human intelligence.Essentially, if you've got a sophisticated enough brain interface, where you could communicate with a machine through thought, then eventually, the end goal wound be for that AI to merge with your other archetypes. Even just giving AI the ability to experience what it's like to be human through the very intimate nature of what a brain interface would be like, would help make up the gaps that AI could never possess, and alternatively, an AI could simultaneously enhance human intellect, memory, information, and learning capabilities.On a long enough timeline, these two would merge, to become a singular being. AI currently, like an external assistant, and slowly, as it grows more intelligent, and as the communication barriers break down, the end point would be reach a sort of reunification of sorts, if that makes sense.
>>489085424Indeed.>>489085443You're a delusional moron, but okay.
>>489086343Good thing the Bible isn't the only theological scripture mankind has made, meaning it's likely its assumptions on spirit and mankind are wrong.
>>489085803I don't think it has much to do with precious time. Most of us waste it anyway. Work sucks because it's expenditure of energy doing mundane things that suck. If that weren't enough we experience fatigue, which makes the process all the more miserable.
>>489086661No u didn't
>>489086343>the BibleWe're having a discussion here. Keep your Jewish fair tales out.
>>489087132You have fun with all that then chief
>>489086910I've had simular thoughts on this. Technology gets more and more ingrained. A brain interface would accelerate the process quite a bit. Little by little new parts are added to humans to a point where we're unrecognizable.
I would choose a word that doesn't have the word sound "jism" in it. The average person's command of English is tenuous and you could get away with whatever wordform you choose to avoid the Jizz mmm sound.>cyborgopy>cyborgraphy>cyborganism>cyborgistryGISMJISMJIZZCUM
>>489077467That’s just a robot with some skin on it.You’ll no longer be human obviously and probably won’t have free will. If you do remain conscious it will be something similar to eternal hell.
Organic life will always be superior
>>489077467The devil is the machine. >inb4 some retardation and labels When you have 50 men doing work, you have to feed 50 men with food for humans, you have to provide the 50 men clothes for humans, water and drinks for humans, sleeping shelter for humans, etc. When you have 50 robots doing work, you have to provide energy for the robots in form of electricity or oil or other fuel, you have to provide lubricants and robot maintenance parts, you have to provide steal or titanium or whatever composite is used for the robot structures, etc. When 50 humans get paid, they go about buying houses, cars, etc. When 50 robots and their inputs and needs are taken cared of you do not have 50 houses, cars, etc .bought up..
We will see an increasing interest in prosthetics due to the war.
>>489078847>I dream of a ghost in the shell type future>I dream of a ghost in the shell type future opportunityFool.
>>489077467It's a simple concept with a very simple solution.>Build a cybernetic body with everything setup to receive the brain/stem/nervous system/other essentials. The big problem is designing a system that not only would take and receive the input signals and also send signals back through those nerves to the brain but would also have to maintain the living functions of the brain like nutrient and oxygen circulation. The other big hoop is power, This suit would require significant amounts of stored energy to be able to operate like a functional human throughout the day if you say that's not a problem we can function from home then you might as well be a talking brain in a jar instead of a cyborg.
>>489077467I like the idea in principle, but unless I have a fab plant in my backyard, I'm not putting shit in my body.The current state of tech is terrible.
>>489088512Brain in a jar should he the end goal anyway. Why bother being tied down to one body/machine? If you could just control something in the real world from your brain jar and incur zero risk that would be optimal.
>>489087726I think I might have deleted the chat where I talked to it about human-machine interface, and Musk's Neuralink ultimate goals, but as the little AI about AI topics, and you have some seriously interesting conversations.Honestly, these days I find talking to ChatGPT more fulfilling than talking to people here on /pol/. Especially about deeper topics like the OP. Because 99% of posters default back to the expected nonsense, and that's leaving aside the trolls and people who engage in poor spirit.
>>489077467it's like embedding a mechanical crutch into you. people who use walkers aren't ascending lmaoand we aren't advanced enough for the concept of biological engineering and crystalline implants or something holotropic enough that could represent an actual paradigm shift yeah cool idea though just roboslut slaves and snuff how cool and dark let's all be cyborg junkies
>>489077467Why not upgrade the flesh? The metal is weak
>>489077467It's inevitable
>>489089222Trips of truth. People have no clue how shitty and fragile even the most advanced robots and drones are. How much daily maintenance they require, spare parts, and other shit.
>>489077467
>>489089664just build robots that make parts and do maintenance
>>489077467Back to hell with you, satan
>>489089711Pump that works for 50 to 100 years and regenerates itself? The flaws of transhumanist fags is that they do not understand how robust human body is.
>>489077467>"unironically"Spotted the Millennial faggot."Unironically" isn't a word.The opposite of "ironically" is LITERALLY.Millennials used "literally" ironically until it lost its meaning, so they started inventing bullshit words because they couldn't think straight, and now they can't decide which of 52 different genders they are. GTFO
>>489090285You'd have to build tiny nanobots that complete repair tasks on a molecular level, and that replace themselves automatically when they expire. Indeed the human body is something.
>>489077467Meds now
>>489090597TldrHave a warm glass of milk and a nap in the sun, grandpa.
>>489090285It's much easier to replace a widget than it is to replace a heart.
>>489090597newfag detected
>>489077467And with a certain modulated frequency, your brain, through your artificial body, is zapped away forever. There is no known shielding small enough, nor efficient enough to prevent this.
>>489090597>The opposite of "ironically" is LITERALLY.It's unironically not.
>>489077467If be fine with deus ex future desu
>>489077467Wrong acesion path, go bio for increased pop assembly and the Erudite trait. Bonus, nerve staple all the jews and brownies.Meme aside, go for it but I wouldn't get that shit. Your for sure getting turned into a servitor afterwards, and you won't able to scream out in horror about it. Fuck that shit let's try bio engineering we already have everything, make a bunch of peotypes now, let's see how it shakesp out, make them breed and see longterm effects. After a few gens large scale .odification can commence. Well all still be people, just better. That Chinaman is fucking hero making higher IQ babies, even the ChiComms are too big of cucks to let him continue. I hate that computers were more natural for me to learn than advanced biology. I'd be making so many fucking crispr children.psjg
>>489080268Periodically repair it.
>>489077467Biological engineering sounds more reliable on the long run. Lower maintenance if done properly for sure. Also sounds less dystopic than being akin to brains-in-jars.
>>489077467i'm 100% going to get all the perfect latest upgrades for free and all my enemies will get inferior products. nothing will go wrong here.
>>489077467You have to be over 18 to post here
>>489077467It seems to me that you replayed Stellaris (which is, of course, very good) But understand that we live in the real world of fucking stupid monkeys... who are too early for cybernization and space colonies... because these monkeys are fucking slaves of nature... and the natural hierarchy.First, you need to upgrade the philosophy, ethics, morality of humanity... and then into cybernation.
>>489077467>human ascension (Cyborgism).been human. turns out a machine which fails as soon someone forgot to oil..this picture shows the main ideologist behind trans-humanism.
>>489077467>>489093511If I criticize, then I suggest.Here is my idea on what to base a new cybernetic species of post-humans.Non-hierarchal Individualism - decentralized micro-communities (limited to 100 people (according to Dunbar's theory))
>>489093773here the picture of main ideologist for trans-humanism.
>>489077467Non-cyborgs are basically chatbots
>>489088371Sex with Motoko
>>489085817>It's not a fact that it's easier. Changing the genetics so as not to make an individual an infertile mutant can be extremely difficult, especially if the goal is significant changes. But so far it's getting closer to science fiction, so it's hard to say which is simpler or more complicated.For all these reasons and not to mention the cell is a self-replicating, self-repairing machine that harmonizes with all the existing cells of the body. The only two reasonable ways are either (a) mind download and upload to decouple the ghost from the machine and (b) genetic engineering. Eli Musk saw this truth and made his choice, not a bad one. Full on whole body genetic engineering is in fact harder. The challenge of the human body is it is the result of billions of years of evolution. It is not a body in fact but a collection of cells themselves evolved. Even in a single body there is still evolution. The immune system performs controlled artificial selection evolution to generate antibody and TCR molecules to fight invasions or cancer, which is notable because cancer also is an example of evolution within a single body. When we are 1 year old there is already evolutionary divergence in genotype across the cells of the body. By 100, 200 years, the genotypes of the body's cells is far more divergent after undergoing many decades of selection for fitness. If you listen to the song of God written in the base pairs, you will find that this is the nature of aging, the breakdown of cells working together to give rise to the next generation of offspring at 18 years old, into the body as a pool of cells now competing rather than cooperating at 118 years old.
>>489077467Why do you faggots with the cyborg shit fail to recognize that the purest path to ascension is to remold our biological foundations? So long as you maintain your inadequate fleshy vestiges, you will never ascend. Our natural biological machinery is primed for reformation in a way guided by structured intent and a desire for perfection, rather than evolutionary forces which result merely in "good enough". Keep your crudely bolted on appendages; I will not only retain my humanity, but perfect it. >t. PhD in molbio unironically working in proteomics to the above end goal. Long fucking way off.
Do humans actually poop everyday? Gross
>>489077467>I unironically believe we need to ascend pass humanity.Escapism.What's the benefit to being a cyborg?The only maintenance my body needs here is nutrition exercise and rest, and should I fail, which I will at some point, another human of my tribe will rise to take my place. The human tribe is the ultimate organism.transhumanism is a narcissistic fantasy if there is no compelling reason to change the species for better characteristics, ie durability, connectivity, etc.There is no compelling reason right now. We're not under attack by anything a human can't handle as a human.
