Will it work though?https://www.fastcompany.com/91233536/elon-musk-believes-remote-work-is-a-covid-era-privilege-federal-workers-quit
>>489192398Yes. Govbugs are the laziest most incompetent niggers on the planet
Remote workers are less productive, communicate worse, and advance at slower rates than in-office workers.
government employees are ALL homosexuals, take their fucking jobs away and never ever give them back
>>489192398Yes it will work because a lot of these idiots thought it was going to go on forever and literally moved to different states.
>>489192398Wait so government employees make 150k-300k a year and don't even show up to work?
>>489193305Turns out taxes are a scam who knew
>>489192668only political hacks advance in the office, remote work is no bullshit only output, that's why a lot of political hacks hate it.
>>489192476you're the most servile house negro on earth
>>489193305Not a ton. You'd have to be at least a GS-14 equivalent with a high locality adjustment to even hit 150k. Only 10% of government employees are at the GS-14+ level if I remember correctly, so not many people are making that much.I think the largest grades are GS-11 or 12, which in DC would pay between 83k-130k.
>>489192398>Elon Musk plans to make Federal employees quit by requiring them to show up for work in personThis is how weak the people who spend your money and guard your rights have become; they'll quit rather than work from home.
>>489192398Except only the worst talent who have no other opportunities will return to the office. The highly skilled ones will just go elsewhere because they can.Many companies are reaching this realization already. RTO initiatives can ruin companies if you let too much talent go. It's far too expensive to find new hires that are highly skilled and want to work in an office environment.
>>489194841It's weaker to be a cuck and show up to an office not for any actual reason except your employer hates you and wants you to quit and you hope you can suck up enough to keep your job in spite of him obviously hating you.
>>489194927I think I'd prefer that a lot of government institutions be incompetent.
>>489194505An Irishman saying this? Hilarious.“We won’t be butt fucked by the English ever again—— please daddy EU fuck my throat until I choke to death!” You evict Irish mothers to house North African niggers.
>>489194621130k is still max comfy considering that's over 200k CAD, which isn't bad if you only need to work 5 hours a day and fuck the dog the rest
>>489192398Elon basically sabotaged his own project by stating this openly. By admitting that it's about trying to get workers to quit rather than improve productivity, he's guaranteed that courts will overturn any return-to-office mandate that DOGE tries to implement.
>>489192398Can you imagine how many fake federal employees there are: I’d bet 10% of employees don’t even exist, literally some nepotism hire, pet dog pulling in $200k, doesn’t even live in the USA gets direct deposit, etc etc
>>489195478Probably every citizen in Israel gets a check, war zone hazard pay
>>489192398I think it will work
>>489192668Nothing could be less true.In office workers waste time chatting.In office workers are packed in tight spaces and often distract each other just by being in close proximity, resulting in reduced output.In office workers may have conditions that are best handled at home (even small things, like allergies) and result in reduced output when not properly managed.In office workers typically get less sleep.In office workers may communicate important details to each other in person, but not through recorded mediums resulting in potential loss of information or reduced efficacy of knowledge transfer.In office workers may have to waste time in busy/frustrating traffic conditions resulting in wasted money and an overall worse view of their job.In office workers that go to the office only for the sake of going to the office and never collaborate in person will be distracted by the illogical nature of the circumstances and may become frustrated with the excuses provided.
i never understand how articles like this actually work. and by work, i mean, brainwash normies. article says musk thinks this. yeah, well so do i. in fact, id go so far as to say every employed person under age 50 shares this belief, as would some based oldschool hippie boomers.
>>489198354Trust the rich elite bro
>>489192668Post your AARP membership card faggot
Is the problem that the at home worker is less productive, or is the problem that he's not as miserable and it's a petty revenge thing? If your job is completely done at a computer maybe it's a good idea to let a man be around and help raise white children.
>>489192398>Will it work though?No. We didn't telework before the pandemic and we were plenty incompetent and inefficient. Making the retards who don't need to be on site come back just makes it all worse for the productive people in the office. Telework was a MASSIVE boon for my gov't office. We literally do not have the space for employees because we don't have money to make a bigger parking lot or expand the building. Everyone back in the office? I literally won't be able to park at the office, no fucking joke. Plus we don't have the security staffing to handle it, they are so fucking toast if we go back to 100%. >>489192668Bullshit, I am definitely more productive. It's the family ones that lose productivity because they fuck about with pets and kids. You only lose local mentoring when teleworking, and "mentoring" is vastly overrated - it's a female tactic to have other people show them the ropes and not have to learn jack shit on their own. >>489193188Yep, those who left the state are FUBAR, definitely leaving to corpo positions where gov't will have to hire them back as contractors at 100x the rate WITH telework.
Oh no my long lunch break, occasional mouse jiggling, sweat pants, frequent coffee breaks and pupperino kisses!Working from home is just as fucked as working in the office as it violates the sanctity of your household
>>489201235>government employee>white children I live in a 97% white area and every dmv or court is full of nonwhite women. This isn't hurting anyone valuable.
>>489193305Oh no, that is like management tier pay right there, with exception of some weird blue fuckhole areas where locality pay takes their shitty 50k/year and triples it so they can survive. That is like senator & general pay right there, and yes they can do whatever they want and take money.To be honest, having management not show up is a fucking blessing. Keeps the dog and pony shows to a minimum. Also makes keeping useless meetings down. Because in person meetings = no work done. Virtual meetings = work can be done while a bitch ass manager drones on about buzzword shit.
>>489192668Depends on the worker. Some do better at home, others turn into giga-slackers.I turned into a giga-slacker. I didn't intend to, but over the course of 3 years I just stopped giving a fuck and actually started craving human interaction despite being a hermit. I would on average do maybe 2 hours of work a week, spend the rest of the time playing vidya games and watching porn.I was relieved when they brought us back, but kinda pissed because we were losing a perk.
>>489195354Yep, he's boned the whole effort because now they can sue for wrongful termination, and courts will absolutely side with them for political brownie points and they have proof of it. Easy slam dunk win for the lawyers and labor unions. Poor Elon doesn't realize the gov't workers are unionized too. He's gonna have a strike on his hands with no gov't output whatsoever. And that sucks when it's your FAA towers running aviation, or FDA meat inspectors checking meat for sale.
>>489201575My friend has three white kids and is a work from home accountant.He's not a government employee, but his work situation does make him a better father, and he does get his shit accomplished. Point is some people can do it, and it should be a merit based thing.
A.I. shows up for work everyday...
>The most useless people in society get paid the most>The bottom level people who do all the actual work, production, movement, point of sale, logistics are all paid like trashWhy do we structure society like this?
>>489202019>A.I. shows up for work everyday...They are trying super hard to incorporate AI at my gov't office, but security loves to stonewall that shit. Plus it hallucinates like 20% of the time, so it's not trustworthy to put anywhere human survival is dependent on competence.
>>489192398They always like it when you quit on your own.
A.I. isn't obsessed with targeting timmy.>:D
>>489201859>accountantAh, the bean counters that ruin fucking everything trying to cost cut whatever they can. Truly the worst scum in the business world.
>>489202191>Plus it hallucinatesDang schizo chatbots
>>489201678This happened to me as well. I reckon it's the case for 90% of WFH workforce
>>489192668>Remote workers are less productive, communicate worse, and advance at slower rates than in-office workers.Shit stirrer! There is a lot of truth to your statement though and all those who flame you are coping. Being productive, cross training, team synergy can be accomplished remotely, but it's way more effective in the office with teams, versus virtually. RTO saves on severance. They have done this rug pull for ages. IBM is famous for it. - 25 years consulting w the top 3
Gangatalkers. Final notice. Whip snap, fall in line dumb fucks
>>489193305I have never met anyone who makes over 150k who works. >NOO I WORK I DO IMPORTANT STUFF I MAKE JOBS I PAY YOUR BILLS YOU ARE MINE! ok bro I get it, flying across the country to hike with rich people who have you on speed dial is hard work.
>>489195353You have to have a phd to qualify and be working in something like chemistry to get that.
>>489192398Holy fuckin based!
>>489201352I hope you get ""fired"" with all the other parasites. Then you can get a fucking job you welfare nigger
>>489192476Fucking parasites. At least welfare niggers stay in their neighborhoods, they don't make my life a living hell at the registry.
>>489202191Imagine being some multi star general and thinking you are buying sky-net when really you are buying clever bot with a google search function.
>>489202816Yup if you dark u don't reflect light and cars just can't see you because any wave they try to bounce off you gets absorbed. Niggas be stealth mode.
>>489202997Lol you don't "buy skynet" lol skynet would be independent. Just saying.
>>489194927>highly skilled government employees.
>>489192398It'll snip the ultra-spoiled brats, surely.Still gonna be tedious work to comb through the ones that do show up.
>>489192668All data shows the opposite. People whonwork from home have shown to more productive. They call in to work less, and they get more actual work done as well. The only ones who suffer for it are office socialites, like Karen from HR, and Susan from accounting who dumps her workload on James and then sits in the break room chatting for 3 hours.
>>489194927>highly skilledEven so, I'm the onepaying taxes. Fucking show up at the building to work and justify even a single penny of that tax of mine.
>>489203455>tedious work to comb through the ones that do show up.Sorting through their monkey 5d chess antics?
>and then have like adam Sandler and will Smith as matrix agents that show up with a comedic antics to parody the MATRIX. Give their car like a 666 in the license plate and have them be drug addicts and alcoholic retards to amplify the comedy
REEEEEEEEEEEK IM IMAGINING SOOOOOO HAAAARD RIGHT NOW AND FASHIONING THE LARGEST IMAGINARY COPE NEUROLINGUISTICS BLAST THAT MAN KIND HAS EVER SEEN! EXPELIOSIS THROMBOSIS AND SUCH DOES NOT COMPARE TO WHAT IS COMING. I SUMMMMMMON THE POWER OF ALL ANIME CHARACTERS IVE EVER IMAGINED BEING PLUS IMAGINING THE ELITE ARE SUPER DUPER FUCKING STUPID TO CONNECT SOMEONE LIKE ME TO SKYNET PLUSSS PLUS PLUS YOU CANNOT FORGET THAT I AM A CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT! THIS BLAST OF PURE IMAGINARY MISSILE COPE WILL MANIFEST INTO REALITY AS YOUR STINKY BUNKER IS GASSED WITH THE PUREST LOGICAL COPE TO EVER MANIFEST AT THE HANDS OF ANY WIZARD IN ANY DIMENSION ON ANY BUSINESS DAY IN THE HISTORY OF SINCE BEFORE DINOSAURS!
>heres an assault rifle kid!>Buy a 3d printer brooo!>Wooow who else is thinking about mushrooms ITT?>HEY OVER HERE! ITS ME! IM GABRIEL THE ANGEL! I KNOW ABOUT YOUR PIRM HISTORY HEHE OBVIOUSLY IM A WIZARD AT LEAST! >xD
It'd be pretty hard for me to take. Working from home is fucking awesome.
One reek! two reek! three reek! four reek!Run reek! flew reek! flee reek! bore reek!Four reek! three reek! two reek! one reek!More reek! be reek! you reek! Fun reek!
THE PATRIOTS ARE BACK. BE AFRAID MOTHER FUCKERS.
>>489192398why are only the white ones crossed out in the background of OP's picture?this really activates my almonds
India is ripe for colonization
>NOOOOOOO ONLY WE CAN MAP OUT THE DESTRUCTION OF WHITES ON MAPS AND STUFF LIKE A KID HAVING THE BEST TIME IF THEIR LIFE NOOOOOOOOOOO>:)
>>489202768Not true I am a GS-13, 5~ years out of college. NY/NJ local so 125k doing contracts. Opportunities for Gs-13+ outside of the DC area is quite hard though. Did my time in DC. Fuck that hellhole. Miss my college buddies though.
>PINDAR IS JUST FUCKING COLORING OVER HUNDREDS OF YEARS OF PLANNING WITH HIS DIGITAL CRAYONS NOOOOOOOO--[window breaks as flashbang grenade flies through window]*boom*[Seal team six enters from left stage]>NOOOO IM A CAT OR SOMETHING! *clean headshot on cat or cricket or whatever animal they identify as**team leader pulls out radio*>We got another one. Can't believe he thought the excuses would work. Same as the last one. On to the next! Over!
>NOOO EUROPE HAS A MAGICAL GREEN HIGHLIGHT BUBBLE AROUND IT NOOOW? SIR GET YOUR BEST COLORERS AND SEE IF WE CAN PENETRATE THIS FORCEFIELD!
>HIS ABILITY TO COLOR IN THE LINES IS INHUMAN! HE MUST BE WORKING FOR CHINA NO ONE COLORS LIKE THAT ON THEIR OWN!
>>489201417>Working from home is just as fucked as working in the office as it violates the sanctity of your householdWorking from home is so much better than going into the office it's ridiculous.>>489192398I know a lot of you are tempted to start taking an "own the wagies and make them come back to the office" stance purely because red team is now using this to hurt blue team, but reconsider. This would be a stupid thing to be in favor of regardless of if Elon Musk is pitching it or some liberal billionaire like Bill Gates is instead.Wealth hoarding enemies of humanity want you to fall into this trap of turning on each other over irrelevant political difference so they can continue reducing the number of remote work jobs until they go back to being as rare as they were pre-2020.Anyone promoting back to office programs should be pushed back, not embraced because it's fucking with people you don't like *this time around*.Once you support it against anyone you're further normalizing it and proving to every other CEO it's that much safer to eliminate remote work for all their employees too.
>>489203501>All data shows the opposite.According to propaganda and leftist hacks. Companies have the real data and wouldn't be pushing to do away with it if it really was.
WE NOT HERE TO WORK
>>489192398
>>489207654I'm gonna be real with you bro, this won't make your failing commercial real estate rise in value.
>>489193188for most jobs it has except those with the highest requirements, which government should require! taxpayer servant = you are property of the American people!
>>489192668The economy is fake and gay. Most employees are useless seat warmers. Business would be more productive with less, but only qualified people.
>>489202191I like the military AI test where it was told to kill an enemy so it killed its commander when it said don't kill the enemy yet. They told it you can't kill your commander so it blew up the communication tower.Completely immature technology that can't be trusted.
>>489201851>be south african slave driver with emerald mine>hmmm wow nerds are losers>teach companies how to drive nerds as slaves>nerds take it like bitches>profit>become salesman>fuck around, get lucky>become a household name by being an insufferable bellend and buying social medias. (You are here)>teach governments how to enslave citizens>realize governments only exist to prevent citizens from being enslaved. >or do they? >profit?
>>489192668THEY GOTTA GO BACK to the office. i mean if us trades got to go work they should as well
>>489203096Government retards would totally "buy skynet" even if it was totally independent and knew for a 100% chance that it would kill them within the year. They would justify it by saying. "Don't be a pussy it's ez" That's how bad our situation is.
>>489208596One skynet would cost a lot of money. Ill ask the economy with an offering tonight and see what she says.
Oh sorry the economy said that the dewhicky is all jammed up and you gotta wait two more weeks for an answer.
Tick tock.
>>489192398I think anyone that makes over $30k to 'work' from home should be shot.
>>489192668when you're in a stagnant government job, none of those things have any real consequence anyways.
>>489192398Automate all bureaucracy, eliminate 99.99% of the gov parasites, pay well the remaining ones so they can't be corrupted, oy vey the chosen ones will hate this
>>489201851>voluntary termination is wrongful>not adhering to policy mandate is wrongfulBlithering retard
>>489193305Actually feds make significantly lower than their private sector counterparts. The draw is job security and benefits. No fed outside the absolute highest brass makes anything over 100k.
>>489193305Some can and do. >The minimum pay level for the SES is set at 120 percent of the basic pay for GS-15 Step 1 employees ($147,649 for 2024).>The maximum pay level depends on whether or not the employing agency has a "certified" SES performance appraisal system:>If the agency has a certified system, the maximum pay is set at Level II of the Executive Schedule ($221,900 for 2024).>If the agency does not have a certified system, the maximum pay is set at Level III of the Executive Schedule ($204,000 for 2024).https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senior_Executive_Service_(United_States)
>>489194927>highly skilled.lol, and what would be a position with one of those?.
>>489207375>>489207303>>489207566>>489207702>>489207746what is this anon?, do you mean everything is a larp?.
>>489192668Government worker here. I assure you we waste just as much time on our in office days.
>>489194927Dumb fuck, there is no skill in government. They handed jobs to the most lazy and retarded people on the planet. They won't give those jobs up when they can just get paid to show up.Where I work, about four of us even know how to do the job because we've been there 20+ years. The rest keep fucking everything up and laughing at us for not pissing in the pool.
I can 300k$ as a remote dev, Musk is a retard. 99.9% employees in USA are literally braindead/women/spics/niggers/jeets.
>>489194927>Except only the worst talent who have no other opportunities will return to the office. The highly skilled ones will just go elsewhere because they can.Highly skilled and government employee are mutually exclusive terms.
>>489194621All that jargon is the fucking problem, what a bloated mess of intentionally confusing shit.
>>489192398It will definitely work. Remember how the female half of Twitter quit as soon as Elon sent out that email saying he was going to make everyone work hard? The government is like 80% female.
>>489208888Witnessed.Be sure to get back to us in the morning.
>>489192398I'd rather kill myself than work a 9 to 5 in an office.
>>489192668All false lol. Managers may have that perception though because they think control = efficiency and those bootlickers make them feel good.
>>489201352Guess its time to find a real job then? Starbucks is probably going to hire people tasked with studying gender impact on the environment or whatever you do lol
>>489221716It makes them feel smart.
>>489192398No. The government has slowly been cutting workforce and replacing it with grotesque contracting budgets. They are going to slowly discover how much waste comes from this... I hope Musk understands going into this how much waste other Federal contractors create. Not every company is run with as tight of a ship as SpaceX.
>>489222110Your terms are acceptable.
>>489194927those highly skilled ones they'll just go find another government to work for!
>>489222269indeed, everyone with a cozy nap-at-work government job from paving the parking lot to server maintenance should fight it out in the free-market against the "migrants" they voted to have. Everyone in government cushy jobs is a democrat till proven otherwise (with 2 presidential elections minimum).
DOGE is useless unless they're going to reduce/eliminate social security>Pro tip: they're not
>>489192668Women are much more productive working remotely because they don't spend all day gossiping
>>489222443So if you are wasting $50 per day, it is useless to stop wasting $25 of it? Get ready for your new home government nigger.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDFaEBjA7PU
>>489192668i LOVE being in the office however the other people there are very often very annoying and a pain in the arse. its really not that i dont like it going there. people are often the problem. usually its also only one or two VERY annoying persons and the majority is ok. however i just like being save from idiots.
>>489194621Not true.Local governments just scam the tax payers.Police departments run speed traps for speeding ticket money from poor people whose lives can't be arsed to be offset by their little court games. it's highway robbery all over the fucking continent for no good fucking reason
>>489192398he really hates the idea of people working from home, huhI mean I understand why he hates that, he has at least a couple inventions that are aimed at resolving congested road traffic and work from home eleminates large part of problem he tries to sell solution for
>>489192668Wrong, kys jew.
>>489216918the one i have :3
>>489201678>I would on average do maybe 2 hours of workNigga that's about how much productive work I get done when I'm in the office too. The rest of the time is goofing off on my personal device(s), or distracting other workers for "collaboration".RTO for office work is an idea that only idiots think is more productive.
>>489222687removal of DEI should clear most of that up. Shanqueefa can go back to selling weaves, barbra can go back to working as a secretary at a public school, jose gets deported. Everything is better this way.
>>489223704It also works to get people to quit, so in this case it is very effective for that.DRK GAP
>>489192398Forcing people to commute for no reason is the opposite of efficient. It's a tremendous waste of time and fuel. It exposes the commuters to life threatening risk. Musk is a thoughtless child.
>>489224357Your department of environmental equity is about to can axed anon, you wouldn't have a job to RTO anyways.
>>489192398Why not just go into work ?
>>489198191This has to be from Reddit
>>489194927It's pretty obvious. Smart companies encourage remote work whenever possible because they can get talent much more easily that way.
>>489224270> It also works to get people to quit, so in this case it is very effective for that.Perhaps, it might be worth it if it gets a bunch of people to quit.My point is that you don't "improve productivity" by merely forcing RTO for jobs that can be done remotely. Because a lot of them will grumble but they will still just show up at work to keep the paycheck - doesn't mean they will do productive work.We still have a hybrid model in the technology division that I work in. We get a lot of stuff done while WFH. We also have mandatory in-office workdays which are a complete waste of time when very little work gets done."Hey man, we're going downstairs to get a coffee - wanna join us?""Hey we're going to Chipotle for a 1 hour lunch. You wanna go?""Yo, Joanne's retirement party on the 2nd floor, I heard there's cake."Practically ALL my productive work gets done on WFH days.
>>489201352It’s scared
>>489224357>Forcing people to commute [...is...] a tremendous waste of time and fuel.Elon sells self-driving electric cars. If fewer people needed to commute... connect the dots
>>489224749I'd wager virtually none of the government jobs are productive right now, so forcing people to quit is objectively the best first step before outright firing the others. Outside of laborious work, virtually every job I saw in the DOD civil contracting AI could do better.
>>489224357If your work can be done by remote it fake job.Simple as.That realization hit me amidst peak of COVID quarantine. When i was riding empty subway wagon, with maybe another 3 military age males (when usually it was packed to the brim). Everyone else were sitting at home and world still spinning. But cancel those last people h/who need to go to work every morning and world stops. And people in their homes would be literally crying "why is nothing works?"
>>489192668good way to bait the lazy
>>489193305british civil servants are demanding a 4 day week because they say they could get more money in the private sector so they need some incentives to stay. truth is the english private sector couldn't accommodate them and almost all of them would fail to find a cushy job
>>489192398This is actually retarded. Work from home actually killed off sheboon diversity promotions, because we had to prove to boomer govt that telework was more efficient we had to bury them in metrics. Metrics when then got picked up into day to day work. Meaning promotions began to take into consideration nothing but metrics.For 2 years sheboons weren't getting promoted and it was actually in Biden's memo for us to return to work because it hurt "social bonds required to get promoted" and "diversity." Unironically just keep up home and actually fire non performers, if you bring us back women and sheboons will be back to creating work luncheons and holiday celebrations that they get work credit for again. I'm also way more efficient at home opposed to having to listen to retards talk about GoT and sportsball.Secondly most govt buildings are run down piles of shit. Old inefficient wiring, inefficient heating/air. Pests. Literally make us permanently working from home and bulldoze these ancient buildings that suck and you'd save way more money.
>>489192398It would make me quit, but I became a beneficiary in three estates since Covid lockdowns started and I'm in my mid-sixties. Don't tempt me if you don't want me to pull the plug.
>>489192398Cleaning up the corrupt dump already !I really wish I was American nothing but glory ahead for the next 4 years
>>489192398yes, lots of remote workers would retire if they didn't just get free money for doing a couple hours of at home work a weekmaking them actually show up to get paid would free up the positions
>you WILL unnecessarily piss away time in traffic>you WILL partake in office social events, otherwise you’re seen as LE INCEL at best or fired at worst>you WILL listen to retarded normgroids and their -1 iq opinions>you WILL pick up the slack for subhumans fucking up their work because surprise surprise they’re barely fuckin potty trained let alone qualifiedand you WILL be fucking happy
>>489192398Free lunch is over for these parasites. No more 4 hours of work a week and fucking around on your phone for the other 36 hours on our dime. When these people lose their jobs, it will be hilarious to see them try to get back on their feet after doing nothing all day. No skills developed and no physical strength developed to do hard labor. We already see things like this on places like r/Jobs where these people are unemployed for months and can't get minimum wagie jobs. Sink or swim, parasite.
>>489227579You are parasites. Kill yourself
How do you even get to be a government worker in your cunts? Here in Monkeyland, one has to be one of the top scorers in a excruciatingly difficult written examination, then wait for up to 4 years to be admitted somewhere.
>>489224357>Forcing people to commute for no reason is the opposite of efficient.Then quit
>>489192668Fuck yourself jew.
>>489194505>first in the western world to lock down to covid>calling other servilekek
>>489192398>Elon Musk wants to downsize the governmentPretty fuckin' based.
>>489194197This
>>489194197>no bullshit only output
>>489192398Hitler wanted people to show up to work. How can you support such fascism?
>>489198191>waste time on youtube>distracted by youtube>distracted by literally anything>likely to sleep on the job>literally only positive, but still retarded excuse to justify nixxing in person communication>if they don't like the job, they should find a different one>[WORD JUMBLE]
I think men have enough integrity to work remotely but women need oversight. Better yet maybe women just shouldn't be working.
>>489192398He's said this for months and it's also what he did for Twitter. He also wants to move all departments out of DC into other cities across the country so the employees are going to have to move as well.
Can't wait until Musk finds out that a country isn't a company.
>>489232113>so the employees are going to have to move as well.lollmao even
>>489202019impressive
>>489211064get some skills poor zoomer, jfc 30k is a pittanceif you make this or less and actually have a job you should be embarrassed
>>489192398If you're working from home you're not doing any work at your useless busy work job. That's why I used to like working from home.
>>489224749>"Hey man, we're going downstairs to get a coffee - wanna join us?"this was actively being encouraged in the place I left - just so long as everyone was getting in each other's faces as much as possibleeverything from this to the higher ups scheduling a bunch of meetings per week with all kinds of people that had nothing to do with each other, just to chat in person sitting nice and close togetherwe even got told rto had nothing to do with our productivity or performanceeverything just short of>well we have to make sure the next plandemic spreads around a bunch, and its not going to be sufficient with everyone working from home
>>489225736>working on a computer is a fake jobshut up, jewcounterfeiting money is fake
>>489230688>Elon Musk wants to downsize the governmentcheckedthis was BS for the private workforce, but after seeing how well it worked for the WEF's tentacles, its not a bad idea to trim down the size of the fedgov, plus it allows them to get get rid of useless fuckers period.
>>489202997"AI" is the electronic Pajeet
>>489192668Forcing everyone in the office is just to benefit redundant middle managers and Chads/Stacies who talk/fuck their way up the ladder rather than getting actual work done. It's why they are the first to bitch about remote work.
>>489192398Bullshit jobs are propping up the economy. Mass federal job cuts are going to accelerate the drive to UBI/social credit. The private sector can't absorb those people. People can barely find a job as it is. People need to get redpilled about UBI and SC or they're going to be stuck in an infinite poverty loop.
>>489192398>Will it work though?To some extent. It will work better when trump moves those jobs out of DC to Nome, Alaska.
>>489230294If I kill myself you're going to end up with an airplane engine in your bedroom. Yes, 70% of the government is worthless, but there are 30% of us pulling that 70% and making us go back to the office only strengthens that 70% AND wastes more tax payer money on decrepit buildings.
>>489192668I don't care. I get paid $2500 a week to play video games while my wife sucks my dick. I live better than a fucking pharoah.
>>489240630WFH master race
>>489240020There's no such thing as bullshit jobs. Just bullshit people.
>>489195478>Can you imagine how many fake federal employees there are: I’d bet 10% of employees don’t even exist, literally some nepotism hire, pet dog pulling in $200k, doesn’t even live in the USA gets direct deposit, etc etcThis exists and is rampant. It's mainly females.
>>489202114 you allow it
>>489201575DMVs and most local courts are not federal government jobs
>all the white people in the back crossed outStill saying the quite part out loud huh?
>>489201678And yet you were never fired. You want to give these people 100% of your effort when they keep slackers like you around?
>>489240165Elon is going to automate the shit out the economy including .govhow are you going to deal with it
>>489194197If you're a conscientious white man sure
>>489192398Government is one of the few places that should be 100 percent in person. If you won’t show up to your job how are you going to show up for your country?
>>489195478>>489241260An even better racket is private sector employees who have their job only because of their relationship to a government person. Some things I've seen in my personal life:>Director of a major local NGO that exists because it gets grants from the state>Turns out the director is actively sucking the governor's brother's cockAnd>A woman who is hired as a "taste tester" by a company that owns a bunch of local restaurants >She's paid $50k to go to restaurants and eat>Her husband is a local politician who can issue permits and fast track liquor licenses I'd wager that every single corporate board in America is related to politicians. Female CEO = professional senatorial blowjob specialist
>>489192398I just quit my 40% homeoffice job for a 100% one. So I'd say it worked.
>>489192668Kikes, boomers, and tradecuck golems are the only ones that think everyone needs to commute for 2 hours to go and sit in the pod while Karen and the rest of the HR harpies hover over you.
>>489242391>hire a bunch of sheboons to manage money, do paperwork, analyze data>they fucking can't do it>hire on private contractors to do the work for sheboons so they can slap their names on itThere's a ton of inefficiency in the govt I'd love to see purged, but making me go back so I have to participate in diversity trainings and clap when Sheboons get awards for running holiday parties is counter productive. >>489242236Nigger it already is being automated, although I'd wage in my department only about 20% of it is possible due it being inspection/sales focused. But work from home made this possible. Work from home briefly cut the fat and forced the govt to modernize a lot of shit. Biden made us go back to the office because there were a lot less unpronouncable names appearing in promotions.
>>489242391ya and it happens in the federal level but again u gotta see a lot of this government work/corruption is at the state level and not trump's jurisdiction
>>489230321or be in the family and friends clan of people who won the latest ellections.
>>489192668Remote work is the best way to get productivity out of mid-late career individual contributors. A good senior software engineer produces more direct value when you remove his distractions and let him work on his own schedule.This comes at the expense of his ability to train subordinates, coordinate effectively with other people, and meaningfully expand his professional network. You arguably get more indirect value if they're working in physical proximity to their juniors because then he can train up those juniors to a higher level of ability to create value, but the current market incentivizes people to hop jobs too quickly for that value increase to properly vest so what you end up getting is a race to the bottom in terms of junior positions' ability to advance their own skills/careers and receive mentorship.
>>489240771You have to be trolling. What about all the DEI positions?
>>489192668A lot of these people are women who weren't productive in the first place.
>>489193305All government spending is a welfare program. No exceptions.
>>489198191You get much less tacit knowledge transfer remotely. You might be recording more procedural information in a WFH environment but that doesn't necessarily translate to institutional retention of capability. Actually watching your senior work and having your senior actually watch you work is a much more effective way to train juniors.
>>489192398>get rid of all the skilled employees who can't be arsed to deal with your authoritarian crap while keeping all the mindless unproductive slackers who just fuck around in the office anywayGood plan, will surely work out.
>>489222720Even that's a little too high-minded in my book. Elon hates WFH because of the kind of guy he is. He'd rather be working. I think he's 100% legit about being a 60 hour a week guy. He has the American sickness of work deep in his bones and while he can rationalize his opposition to WFH in terms of efficiency or expelling deadbeats, his root emotional problem with it is just that WFH sucks less than working in the office and that fact alone makes WFH bad in his book. If it doesn't hurt enough then it's not really work, and the only good in this life is really really working, that's his view.The business leaders of America are insane, sick people who basically all feel this way. The Jews at least can take some time to relax and sit like effendis once they get to the top, actually enjoy it, but the Musks of the world keep killing themselves worse than the peons they command.
>>489201352>Telework was a MASSIVE boon for my gov't office. We literally do not have the space for employees because we don't have money to make a bigger parking lot or expand the building.I know why. I did contract work for military CE. They are only allocated so much square footage of building space. So if you want to expand something like a repair center you have to subtract it from somewhere else. So it's easier to telework most your admin/engineering and use the space for production. Pre-pandemic they used to rent a lot of trailers and temporary buildings for their offices since they didn't count. I know they saved a fortune letting people work from home.
>>489240630> I get paid $2500 a week to play video games while my wife sucks my dickThat's nice. I go to the office, get paid more than that, and have one of the cute half-latina admins suck my dick on her lunch break.
>>489243258>Kikes, boomers, and tradecuck golems are the only ones that think everyone needs to commute for 2 hours to go and sit in the pod while Karen and the rest of the HR harpies hover over you.it's damn trueone study of WW2 will tell you germans began making the most inventive things under camo tarps in the woods and still had chemical plants to make fuel running despite being bombed by major raids from US and britainthe "commute" is a scam and everyone drives around with their heads cut offyou either live near your production center or live off masqueraded UBI, and the US is obsessed with LOL u can't live near your production line, because rentcucking and driving is le better!! that'll be 3000 dollars a month.. noone who wasted 4 hours a day getting to work is alive as far as I've ever met, they all become husks by 60
I hope Trump and musk double down on stupid shit rightoid ideas since I’m in California newsome will double down on WFH and overtime lol
>>489244741>I think he's 100% legit about being a 60 hour a week guy. He has the American sickness of work deep in his bonesThink again. This dude has like 20 children. You don't even have time to meet and impregnate that many women if you're working 60 hours. He's the top ranked diablo 4 player? Even if he payed to win, you don't have time for that shit if you're working 60 hour weeks.Reality? He worked 60 hours like many of us in our early to late 20s. That's it. He has coasted his entire life off the backs of hard workers who actually have the ideas and experience to engineer. And he's done it all thru financial leverage, after being in the right place at he right time, with the right (((connections))). Not hard work.
>>489192398Lel.I actually love the meme of having my own office. Makes you feel important and it's like an escape sometimes l, depend9ng on what you're doing
>>489223704Sounds like they could replace you with a part time worker and save a lot of money. I'd expect a lot of that in the near future.
>>489192668I don’t know anon. I’ve been at the office for 4 hours today and I’ve done nothing at all besides smoke a bowl in my car and phone post on here.
>>489192668Oh yeah and they also develop hunched backs and claw hands.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12202209/Swollen-eyes-hunchback-claw-like-hands-remote-workers-look-like-2100.htmlPeople who simp for offices are the ultimate normies, the dumbest of the dumb. Imagine believing it makes sense to physically commute somewhere to use the internet.
>>489192398He can't do anything. His "department" isn't real. It doesn't really exist.
>>489202114It's actually because of credit money. Banks create money out of nothing, so they can arbitrarily decide who/what businesses to give it to. "Skills" have less leverage than money printing (or being the friend of the money printers) so they do all the work for pennies while the bankers and their friends print money for themselves.
>>489245269>stupid shit rightoid ideasNah. The right has never been wrong ever.
>>489192398Jokes on him. I don't do shit anyways regardless if Im in the office or teleworking. 10 pt Veterans preference and career status got me safe and sound until retirement. Cope harder, fags.
>>489242368>put all your people in one place with a war on the horizon What could go wrong?
>>489198191What is kinesthetic growth? I don’t think it’s jacking off to tranny porn all day from home while checking emails.
>>489244181Those positions exist to cater to people who shouldn't exist. Even a "DEI" job could do something useful if it wasn't occupied by a moron servicing other morons.
>>489192668Your simple, objectively observable statement seems to have upset the remote workers...>I'm moar productive remotely!!!If you actually believe this, then you're simply an exception to an otherwise very obvious rule - that most remote employees are uber-slackers.
>>489194927If they were highly skilled they would be working in the private sector by now for twice the pay
>>489198191I think you grossly overestimate the percentage of people that will not fuck off if nobody is there to manage them. I work in a physical location and I do a job that isolates me from the rest of the employees. Out of all of the employees that work that station me and one other will actually do the work required; the rest fuck off because they are not being closely supervised. That's about 20% of the work force there. The other 80% are just children with adult privileges.If you are a highly skilled person that can work remotely and are self managing, your services should be offered on a contract basis. Be your own man. Because the rest of the herd has to be wrangled.
>>489192668But Elon we want the government to be incompetent
>>48919492780% reduction in headcount and double salaries for (competent) new hires. This is what I would do anyway
>>489222687If I had to manage people my mission would always be to get rid of the one or two people that are always an asshole, on purpose, ASAP. There's always one, and they are a detriment to any company that hires them. The generally fuck with people by the rules, which is what D&D would call Lawful Evil, which is a convenient term. No lawful evil would be allowed at my company. Just one of those assholes can lower the productivity of 20-30 employees.Let THAT sink in, Elon.
>>489254267The entire USG civil service workforce is lawful evil though. The entire game (get a budget, claim you can't get the mission done with your budget budget, expand your budget, ... ad infinitum) means good people are weeded out by a bureaucracy that incentivizes evil. This can't be fixed. It's evil by nature.
>>489254079>80% reduction in headcountIf you do this, you allow the cancer to remain. Agencies need to be replaced with task forces designed to do a specific jobs all with a temporary mandate. Reduction isn't sufficient. The entire structure needs to be replaced.>and double salaries for (competent) new hires.No. These faggots are already at the top of the top of the pay scale.
>>489192398Entire departments could just be dropped into the trash.
>>489240630where can i get this job?
>>4892084Based
>>489253248What I found is that people who are not productive at home are also not productive in office. Baby boomers are the fucking kings of this shit >Arrive in parking lot at 9AM>Have a conversation with Bob from Risk Management in the parking lot for 20 minutes>Into the office at 9:30AM>You have 14 voice-mails but can't remember your PIN so they will remain unlistened to for the foreseeable future >Bullshit with Brenda, the office manager, about whatever brain dead TV show she watches>Meeting at 10AM. The only action item from this meeting is deciding when the next meeting will be.>11AM, leave to go to a lunch meeting>"Meeting" is to talk with some vendor who is trying to sell a product you don't want and have no budget for>2PM slightly buzzed from your lunch martini>There's a pile of unread emails on your desk>Yes that's right. You have some younger, more tech savvy employee print out all your emails and highlight things that might be of interest to you>in 4 years you have never read a single one>leave at 3:40pm to beat the traffic>on your way home pull into a drive thru and order a double McGreasy because that cardiologist doesn't know what he's talking about>depart and realize the drive thru worker forgot to include ketchup>sigh to yourself "Nobody wants to work anymore."
>>489240165>If I kill myself you're going to end up with an airplane engine in your bedroom.Look nigger, don't get me started on the FAA. The entire industry is held up by government subsidies and if it wasn't for that, people would choose trains over airplanes. A stack of fucking aluminum shims I could cut in my garage out of a soda can is $500 because some FAA faggot is hooking his buddy up. And the QC's (the ones that do the actual safety work and inspection) are paid for by the airlines and not on the government payroll . The FAA shows up to edit the commas on the paperwork and make sure you are buying parts from "approved vendors" so they get their kickbacks. 90% reduction in the FAA workforce, minimum. And hire some software engineers to use AI to audit inspection sheets and I can replace the FAA and save billions. Inb4, >muh, air traffic controlIEEE evolved just fine without government faggots involved
>>489240020>Bullshit jobs are propping up the economyIf this is the case, cut these jobs and put these people in welfare and remove the farce. Welfare recipients should not be at the top of the pay scale.
>>489232113>its what he did to twitterYeah and look at the state its in now.
>>489244741>Elon hates WFH because of the kind of guy he is. He'd rather be working. I think he's 100% legit about being a 60 hour a week guyImagine that, expecting people to work when you pay them
>>489192398It'll definitely work to an extent. A ton of these fuckers already moved out of DC for cheaper pastures and it's about fucking time they hit the unemployment line>>489257899Site still works just fine, kike.
>>489192398Are /k/ shills going to get fired?
>>489194927>Many companies are reaching this realization already. RTO initiatives can ruin companies if you let too much talent go. It's far too expensive to find new hires that are highly skilled and want to work in an office environment.so much this. The smartest people I know (as in, the most skilled ones), all value their freedom and are generally speaking lazy. If you force them to come to the office, they will just switch the employer
>>489257899>Yeah and look at the state its in now.Still the most used and most popular social media in the world? Yep.
>>489244415>Actually watching your senior work and having your senior actually watch you workHalf of my time as a junior was wfh and we did pair programming on zoom, how is it even different to in office pair programming?
>>489256539Hey, you've got Dutch boomer office workers also employed in the USA?
I took a WFH job earlier this year. I probably work more than I did in the office.NGL one thing I miss is the time not working in the office, like time to take my afternoon walk, or Jane wants to grab a coffee.
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>>489207654>Kikepanies have the real dataHang yourself with a steel cable
>>489259293Elon did this because the servers hold evidence of his pedophilia, as well as Diddys. Thats why Diddy invested in the purchase. Lots of pedo's in power right now. Gaetz was forced out by Musk just yesterday to be a pasty.
>>489256539Who is this semen demon?
>>489193305Very few of them. Reactionaryniggers and libertarians like to imagine that government workers are all incompetent do-nothings making $100-$200k per year but they’re not and it wouldn’t even matter if they were because it would pale in comparison to the money we waste in social security for boomers, welfare for blacks, etc.
>>489225873No, there’s truth to that. If public sector work wasn’t comfy, nobody would do it. You would just get bottom of the barrel losers that can’t get better jobs.This is the problem of letting these entrepreneurniggers run government. They think you can just treat it like Amazon, but it’s not Amazon. It’s actually closer to charity or volunteer work than anything else. If you treat these people like slaves, they just go somewhere else. The thing is, Elon doesn’t care. Half of his businesses are about stealing work from the government. He’s happy to see government suck at its job. I guarantee one or two departments take a nosedive from Elon and Vivek policy and then these two scammers go start a company to fill the empty space.
>>489222161everybody and their dog knows that work places are used to make people WORK.If I put you at home all you do is watch porn and ctrl V some shitty emails to people just so we can imagine you working lol
>>489232113> just pretend the Federal government is TwitterGenius. What could go wrong?
>>489232610He won’t “find out”. People like him will shape into a company to the greatest degree they possibly can. This is the real danger of entrepreneur worship and the tech billionaire takeover of the right. There will be no wake up call. They get what they want while you pay the price.
>>489259366I hate WFH personally. I’ve been WFH for 4 years now. It sucks. I thought I was a loner, until I was alone all day every day for years. And worse than being alone is never leaving the house. It just sort of feels like Groundhog Day, like being a NEET, just wasting your life. I don’t necessarily want to go back to the office but I’m so desperate to escape or at least get a better job and WFH lifestyle I can tolerate you have no idea.
>>489192398It will. The reason is that senior staff have already been on cruise control. A lot of junior staff got married, had kids, and moved to the suburbs during the pandemic. RTO will create significant attrition among these groups. Only a handful of staff are truly productive, and they'll stay and continue doing good work.But it's truly the case that I often have little to no work. I think I did 1 hour of work this week, and worked from home 4 out of 5 days. If I actually had to clock in and out and sit at my desk all day, I'd likely try to return to the private sector -- where I'd be making triple the salary but doing 70 times the amount of work.But it's definitely not to increase productivity. I just don't have any work to do. RTO would just force me to sit at my desk all day. I have my own office, so I could still hide under my desk and play video games all day. But that's pretty undignified.
>>489259972>>489259721>>489260118"Government workers" are by literal mathematical majority angry fat retarded nigger women who spend their days idling, mistreating white citizens and occasionally shoveling out piles of cash to other niggers when they don't take it for themselves
>>489245307>even ifNo that is 100% and being number one is simply down to your gear and abusing the many bugs in the game right now. He RMT’d every item he has and then has someone else play the account to level it. Either way, he is a massive fucking faggot for playing D4 the way he does. It is fake ego fluffing hiding behind RMT, PTW, and Chinese farming, the game takes 0 skill to play once you have the gear. The whole game is a broken mess right now.
>>489192668100% verifiedIdk who the shills are who claim remote workers are more productive. Everyone knows they just fuck off and send an email once an hour to make it look like they did something
>>489261184Stfu you bitter ass trade boomer, there is no fucking reason anyone should get in a car to commute to their 9 hours a day job. Fuck you people just want suffering for the sake of it.
>>489260290yea, I can see that. L:ike you wake up, turn on your laptop, and then you work, and then you turn off your laptop, and you are still at home. I've tried to go to the gym, take long walks with my dog, etc., but it's still a strange thing. I am not sure I can do it forever. But a lot of people do and are fine. I actually had on site meetings with clients and it was nice just being out there talking to people for a bit.
>>489192398death to all fatty losers, go to hell glownig faggots
>>489192398What's an RTO MANDATE?
>>489192398Corrupt lazy women are evil.
>>489262309"Return to office"If you're a federal employee you can't work from home anymoreHe's also trying to fire a massive number of federal employees and tacitly admitting this will help "encourage" them to quit
>>489192668All of that is true for women but you keep hiring them.
>>489192398Not as effective as he imagines. Government employees are part of a pension plan that requires time in the job. He is assuming that people will walk away from their ability to live indoors when they are elderly and retired.
>>489192818No. They can work on farms after we deport all the illegals.
>>489244741>Elon hates WFH because of the kind of guy he is.Elon hates WFH because its directly opposite to his way of doing business and his competitive advantage.Its has pinnacle manifestation in SpaceX. Look at their facilities. Its literally one giant factor and employees do everything in one place. Research, then next room they build rockets https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq8HrxfSZMchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xahiWQQKw7Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFbrK_sRV9Qhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCc2F8KccD4Compare this to other aerospace companies that sprawl over continents and countries with hundreds subcontractors, WFH type thingie.And its working for Elon, he does everything in house and does better than outsource market, his team working close together solves problems better. and its opposite to the "usual" way of doing things "outsource specialized wrok to contractors".I think Elon is industrialist genius. I don't think his way for everyone but for him it is.
Why did /pol/ come to the conclusion that working from home is bluepilled and tranny while working in the office is redpolled and chad?Is it jealousy from the neet incels?
>>489236195only fools call ML, AI.
>>489192398>/pol/ now loves being good boy office slaves because Elon said it's based or somethingThe absolute, PENULTIMATE state of this board
X is for Elon Musk and his posse ilot dickridersBluesky is for trannies Mastadon is for CSAMWhere is the.based social media platform? Where can I find.baaes people like on 4chan?
>>489265684Working from home is much better for workers.That is why government employees should be banned from working from home.Government employees should also be regularly whipped and face prima nocta if they marry
>>489263533Hey, don't make my job harder by making me wrangle tards
If your job can be done remotely the supply of people competing against you in the job market increases by an order of magnitudes, suppressing wages even further :)
>>489194927oh, right. except if there's no jobs and people are cutting, and we're going into a recession. then it's ruh roh. >>489198191Back to the office with you :)
