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Don't fuck with democracy
>>489783191map showing explosion in Odessa
Hello Gentlemen, total kike death by the way
Multiple explosions in Odessa from Kalibrs
>>489783191Nice fiction comic, Mexican bro
Hohols are saying that apart from strategic bombers there is also a naval Kalibr launch
>>489783191Excellent bait, xir!
>>489783191were russia ,iran ,n.korea and china handcuffed in this simulation?
Whats going on in Odesa?
1/4
too much happening for the alert map
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Post your ideas for Russia's future, /chug/!1. Prohibit social parasitism; mandate that Russian males contribute to the workforce or military. Conscript milbloggers and the abortion&contraception industry. 2. Mandate inspection of all packages, coffins, and bodybags to prevent the smuggling of contraband. 3. Launch program to rehire civilian professionals with skills that could be useful on the frontline; employ contractors of private companies. 4. Utilize surprise attacks in Zaporizhia, Dnipropetrovsk, and Kherson. Seize Skudnoye.5. Support rebellion, fragging, and mutiny in the West. 6. Launch a law enforcement campaign intended to mass incarcerate drug users and drug dealers for deployment. 7. Establish All-Russian Patriotic Wargames Union on the basis of the Shooting Union of Russia, creating new sports for recreational WWII tank use etc.8. Celebrate and memorialize Russian Empire, ceremonially using Bozhe, Tsarya khrani! etc. Dedicate a day to the Empire and the Romanov martyrs. Have Prince Rostislav Romanov preside over the celebration alongside the President. Two years and no bets from shills yet!
>>489783191Are those airborne migrants?
>>489783408what page is this? liveua is kinda dead
>>489783339some fool left a light on
>>489783470https://alerts.in.ua/en
Snuff out all butthurtbelters using nuclear hellfire
>>489783453Z
Thought on jew hating putler, who according to jew is jew?
>>489783446This scenario would kill more Jews than bombing Israel itself
>>489783408So Kikekraine is just getting ass blasted
>>489783502>keef city>1 minute agoheh
>>489783191While a nice fanfic, this is the exact reason this war was started in the first place.
>>489783594Very.>First wave of a dozen Kalibrs are now in Ukrainian airspace.>Launch maneuvers have been confirmed from the Tu-95s as well. Looks like another exciting night for Ukrainian air defense.
The Ukrainian Minister of Defense came to South Korea yesterday. He came to beg for weapons from us. I don't understand why Zelensky wants to continue the war with Russia. Ukraine has already lost. If Ukraine wants to continue this war, the insane Putin will use tactical nuclear weapons on Ukraine and hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian citizens will die.
on deep state war map it shows a small red russian box inside Kurakhove like a russian platoon just sprinted in there and camped in a building? is that okay? are they okay?
>Macron already surrenderedKek the surrender jokes write itself
>>489783814Red team is teleporters and dispensers now
>>489783408>a new wave of bombingsI'm waiting for another >totally coincidence bro spike in ruble to dollar ratio.
>>489783814*teleports behind you*Nothing personal, kid
>>489783845How is Macron still in power there?
>>489783845Kek. Reminded me of pic related being posted on day 1 of the SMO.
>>489783408hohols are asleep rn and it's 5 am.
I just realized Russia controls the equivalent of Switzerland, Denmark or Holland, intedesting
is anything actually happening
>>489784156bombing offensivenothing newneh
>>489784156Big rocket wave
>>489783814Eh, probably just a beer run to the closest store.
>>489784256>Big rocket wavebigger than usual or just normal kablammo
>>489784156Nothing ever happens.
>>489784156
>>489784057gibsmedat to the frog boomers once in a while
>>489784057He is the bastard son of a Rothschild whore
how will russia survive an exchange rate of an exchange that doesnt happen?also does this mean our energy prices will no longer be at 400% of what it was in 2022 and i wont have to pay almost double for food anymore?what are the shills even implying with this peremoga?
Anyone else deenz enjoyer?
>>489784387Upper end of normal bringing hohols to heel run.
Total silver hair rusmutt loveZ
>>489784602Apparently, if the exchange rate increases by 10%, so do prices all over Russia
>>489784404Based
>>489784156No
>>489785098>leaf>1 postcan i get a second opinion
redditors are literally seething with the news that 18 year oldz in ukraine will be drafted in war soon (sorry Gosling anon) .as if these faggots weren't spamming till the last ukrainian oooga booga oink oink for the last 2 years. if you live by the sword you die by it. Simple as.
>>489784602It's banking on cultural inertia of coupling with the west. The are many places where more politically inclined russians still think >the war will be over soon>the west partner, i.e. master, will forgive us>and then we will be cultural and civilized societies togetherAnd if you point out that the west never in humanity's recorded history have been serious about allying with russia, that it WILL always backstab you (e.g. Crimean War), that we were always cultural opposites and thus enemies, and they will never (((forgive))) us, you are branded a vatnik, +15 and a pro russian bydlo. Fucking nation traitors, ffs. I am not even talking about pointing out that the west is indeed rotting and slowly collapsing, it's on another level of shitflinging entirely. I witnessed a thread on 2ch, our 4chan, where anon, with proofs that he lives in krautlandia, stated that living there is hell and he will endeavor to return to russia asap. What do you think happened in that thread?
>>489785166It's a bomb run. there. nothing ever happens.
If nothing ever happens why are you all still here?
>>489785166explosions in Kharkov, Dnipro, Kirovograd and Odessamissiles still being tracked Khmelnitsky, Ternopol, Zhytomyrmajor Geran wave for last several hourshttps://alerts.in.ua/en
This my last drawing for the moment, enjoy the fireworks!
>>489785370I have nothing else, I guess..
>>489785370pol is a shithole, but we have nowhere else to go...you are here forever
>>489785479Good work, look forward to more.everything I know about drawing, I learned from this pic
So is this the "retaliation?" Should I go to sleep now or should I be comfy?
>High-speed target on Kharkiv.sehr gut
>>489785370To one day experience the catharsis of status quo being shattered.
So no Oreshnik tonight?
>>489785897Nobody died in the last attacks on Russian soil, so save the big girl in case.
G'day /chug/>>489785370Sometimes I get paid to be here
>>489785701explosions in Rivne and LutskLvov, Stryi incoming,>>489785674good question,>>489785897>>489785983
>>489785479who is this lolita ?? SHE DESERVE to get analysed UHOOO...
>>489785479i wish i knew how you look like, what kind of person is behind this, im very curious in a non offensive way, same with all chilean flags, i wish i could see how chilean polacks look like
>>489786079She is hazelnut, just some weeks old
>>489785479the six earrings are a nice touch
>>489786159PTSDstantwo weeks: elected officials bring the rope or get the rope
challenger 2 confirmed for worst tank in this war
>>489786212Im from the north, so not tall, dark hair, lean body and with sad eyes and no smile, your average nortino, i just spent 12 hours a day drawing
>>489786567im not genetically nortino, my family is very white(ish) from the south, but i was raised in calama lmao the north fucking sucks imo, do you like it?
>>489785370>some missiles on kharkov and odessa season #9485 with no videos, photos or any confirmation of damagethe days of actually getting interesting footage are long gone. i remember when you'd get everything. not just the impacts, but the missiles flying through the skies, the videos of the ships launching kalibrs. now you're lucky if you get a blurred out still picture of a distant dust plume.
>>489785897oreshink planned on 30th, this is just some sideshow hyhyl bombing
>>489786550Who werent expecting it? That shit has rifled barrel plus brits never managed to produce a good tank despite starting the trend.
>>489786845matilda was good
>>489786725No i hate it, have been living in the south for like a decade, posted here some weeks ago i will have to return to my hometown and sell everything i own just due to family drama, the south is so pretty, literally a small piece of paradise, anyway blog over, will post again if i draw another piece, have a good day chilean anon
>>489786788Checked and you are probably right the NOTAM is till the 30th, so we got time.
>>489786991>have a good day chilean anonyou too brother, it was nice talking to you
>>489787019>>489786788Don't put your hopes up.One rule: Never trust monke
>>489783408>Energy under a massive attack from the Russian Federation. Attacks on energy facilities - all over Ukraine - Energy Minister Galushchenko.
At this point i'm okay with all of ukraine not having electricity.
>No more nukes or Oreshinks due to Trump So this is it, huh?
>>489785479kek, nice one
>>489785370just to suffer.
>>489786550>>489786845This tank might be destroyed but the way you present it very misleading.Vatnik tanks consider the crew not important so there is no emphasis on keeping them alive. Western tank designers however value crew life above all so the tank is less likely to just fall appart when hit.We have seen some destroyed russian tanks and even they dont just completely blow up this bad, meaning this Challenger 2 wasnt destroyed in combat but was probably abandoned and then russians blow it up with mines or multiple drones or who knows what.
>>489787342hoholina tier
>>489787320>due to TrumpWhat did he do?
>>489786550Iam pretty sure that everyone knew that Chally is the work tank out there, follow by Le Clerc
Happy Thanksgiving and thanks for the missile strikes, Vladimir!
i am amazed that ukranians without power for months at a time dont go berzerkif i lose power for like one hour i get ready to go burn down my state governors mansion but ukranians are just chill for sitting through months of darkness in the dead of winter. are they just that stoic? or do they not care enough to rebel? do ukranians not have private sector guns to shoot zelensky with? no PTSd rattled ukranians willing to take a shot at zelenksy or yermak? i honestly dont understand the mentality. if i didnt have refrigerated food and power for my video games ide be a deadly threat to society within 24hrs
>>489787470Where is the Leclerc, Macron? WHERE IS IT???I want to see all western tanks burn. You better not blueball me you fucking french faggot nigger lover.
Thanks for the kino Russia, I did like it this time.Happy Thanksgiving, goodnight.
>>489787342it only took one lancet hit, there is a video of it
>>489787697It's just apathy at this point.
>>489787747If it's the video i'm thinking of it penetrated pretty much at the small weakspot for the driver, right into a charge bin.That tank said sayonara guaranteed. Funniest aspect of this is there isn't a drone recording the immediate after effect so you can't tell whether or not the bagged charges worked as intended or not in preventing immediate detonation.
>>489785479Bravo
>>489787088they already scheldued shutting down of all air traffic in the launch oblasts, its comingalso monke is cornered everyone is sick and tierd of his cuck he has to appease his cabinet
>>489786987matilda is just heavy armored and slow p3 which is bad for the tank because theres no point in heavy armoring what in essence is a light tank
>>489787747I think that was a different Challenger and is also not a real world scenario since with a drone you can just go for weakspots. In reality, especially when the Chally is hull down, the turret is pretty hard to penetrate frontally. And even if it did penetrate it would blowup that bad since even the Russian tanks just send the turret into orbit.
>>489787697there is a reason /chug/ call them pigs and that is ,just like pigs they don't protest when being send to slaughterhouse or live as a cattle. hohols are the example of countrymen who don't care about showing any sign of resistance and liberty.
>>489787342nigger, first research aftoloaders so less people are killed when tank gets blown up then talk back to me
>>489787974Ah yes, it's happening this time!
>489787342Isn't this an exact pasta from earlier?Do you boys get paid for such lazy content?
>>489788084Autoloaders aren't adopted due to doctrine. Loader is also an extra pair of eyes.Won't matter in 20 years but it does now.
>>489788096Because you keep pretending to not understand or just refuse to acknowledge my arguments. Also you not reaplying properly doesnt make me mad as you probably believe
>>489788082i legit feel very bad for them, every time zelensky starts mouthing off his latest retard shill speech i want to reach through the screen and crack his kike neck, but the ukranians dont share this sentiment. its so weird, individual ukranians seem to be fine and kind and honest people, but there is something DEEPLY wrong with their society/government/civilization *shrug*GLAD I DONT LIVE THERE!!!
>>489788084Nigga are you retarded? Soviet style Autoloaders were there to save on crew capacity and generally make the tank smaller not make the tank safer, there’s evidence to the contrary thats why Russian tanks go nuclear when the tank gets hit
>Nobody is pressuring Putin or anything at this point since US Intel has denied any war or anything coming up>UK, FR not joining the war>Ukraine will no get nukes >MAJOR IRBM INCOMING, I PROMISE JUST WATCHUhuh, yes.
>>489788053what reality? what hull down? are you fucking stupid? what are you even saying?tank advantage is mobility, the only way to survive is mobility, drones gonna rape youreal battlefield is full fo dronesare you real fucking inbred retarded british?
>>489788283It's the same thing. A smaller tank is a safer tank.
gm. any good animu related thread music?Z*we wouldnt be here now where we are now (worlds best thread), without 2D butts
>>489788349That maybe so but that’s not the point he was making, leclerc has autoloader too buts it’s a lot safer than the old carousel that russian tanks use
>>489788412https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2ts2GWOSv8This should count considering the insane amount of AMVs made with songs from that album
>>489788283ok quintapple retard lets do some very basic kindergarden mathsoviet tank uses 3 crew membersnato tank uses 4 crew memberswhich side takes higher casualities when both get destroyed?I can also go to advanced kindergarden math and bring up that its better to have 10k shitty tanks and 10k infatnry vs 1k good tanks and 10k infantry, because you will have 10x advantage in tanks which even if quality difference exists and has effect still would be something around 8x which would make side with more tanks even if it takes more tank casualities are more attractive for infantry because infatnry wont be facing tanks without support but I dont think you are capable of comprehanding such complex concepts.
>>489787320Trump is responsible for the oreshnik 2bh
>>489788290Monke's hand slipped and nutted on lvovit's joever
>>489788494counts. yeah...that's us. our vibe kinda. ty bro
>>489788096there are memeflags, and then there are NATO memeflags
>>489788053i think you're confusing russian tanks with bradleys
>>489788084Autoloader or not is irrelevant, you could remove the autoloader from your tanks and load manually and they would still blow up since you keep your ammo in the fighting compartment.Here's a example of how they are stored in a Challenger 2, notice how not only the shells are in a special compartment but also every shell is stored independently
>>489788283>muh superior wectface it, there were all the kinds of wectroon garbage on the battlefield and none of it has shown any decent capabilities on par with the real battle tech Russia hason the contrary, most of the wectroon garbage failed patheticallyhell, even our muh patriotic "experts" had more faith in your shit
>>489787088I trust monkeyou will kneel
>>489788622amazing XD vidrel
>>489788619you jsut coping hard without any argument now, nato tanks are all fucking shit, look at kursk
>>489788619Those aren't shells
>>489783011ZTHDTKDTTDTNDCHECKED
not a single good thread up on /pol/
>>489785250>What do you think happened in that thread?One anon calling OP gay faggotSecond anon calling OP state shillThird anon going for whataboutismFourth anon telling OP to fuck off
>>489788250they are fed cope as breakfast and sleep after digesting lies. they are being promised that after this war their shithole wasteland will be turned into first world cities ,as if they are welcome and not hated since the 1900s.who gonna tell them that whatever remains of their country will be turned into just a huge nato bootcamp and military base like in Baghdad and Afghanistan?
>>489788610>white privilege
>>489788534>when both get destroyed You’re completely missing the point though, these tanks were designed and made in the Cold War where NATO doctrine relies on the big western tanks taking out the smaller shitter Soviet tanks. They realised that they couldn’t outpace Soviet industry in tank production so they built better heavily armed tanks that would destroy multiple tanks before being destroyed itself. Hence why we had abrams and challengers dabbing Iraqis for 20 years. Funnily enough russias realised their mistake and gone to a more expensive heavily armed tank (t14 armada) which I’m sure will come out oh maybe like two more weeks or something
>>489786159If the production rate of drones was sufficient could it not be made so that ukrainians don't get any sleep at all in major cities for weeks on end?
Telegas are saying second rocket wave is coming
>>489788618Theres a shit ton of videos of T-72s or whatever they use that just sends the turret flying. But even in those cases it doesnt end up as bad as >>489786550So that just proves my point of these pictures being misleading because its highly unlikely that those tanks were destroyed in battle, they were probably abandoned and then intentionally destroyed by russians
>>489788913this war is such a joke.
>>489788756thisand /b/ is occupied by troons
>>489788806Nato designed its tanks(and most of its other weapons as well) to be best at a battle.Russia designs its tanks to be superior on the strategic and operational level.Modern wars are decided not on the tactical level like some medieval war where 1 battle decides the war but on the strategic and operational level.
>>489788622>real Russian techYeah those cheap Chinese drones with a warhead attached can kill just about anything. But don’t act like it secret russian technology, seen plenty of videos of t-whatever’s getting dabbed on by javelins and nlaws
>>489788993>So that just proves my point of probably
step sestra is stuck in the washing machine again (she swears she was only looking for missile chips but I think she's just a slut??)
>>489789002What's the golden throne equivalent in RuZZia
>>489788283Autoloaders are safer. The propellant that russians used is the main cause for the ammunition cook-offs that made their tanks infamous.
>>489789149jew foreskin rituals
>Russian Kh-101s are now over Ukrainian airspace.>https://x.com/squatsons/status/1861999328325493099
>>489788971looks like Poltava Chernihiv and Kiev are on the 2nd course menu
>>489789149Lenin
>>489789109Could you show some of these videos? For all the St Javelin blasphemy, it seems like hohols should be worshipping St. DJI.
>>489789266I’m a phoneposter so no, but there’s a shitload of them from the early invasion. /k/troons always repost them
>>489787342>Vatnik tanks consider the crew not importantYou're retarded. The only tank in the West with proper ammo stowage is the Abrams, and even that's not perfect. The Chally has explosive and flammable shit all over the place, the Leo 2 has hydraulic fluid that explodes under heated pressure etc. Furthermore Soviet tanks were designed to take hits and shrug them off, after penetration it doesn't matter, you know why? Because they were designed for nuclear full-blown war, where tank survivability was extremely low no matter how much super-tech shit you throw in/on it. We see more destroyed Soviet tanks because more Soviet tanks are involved by a huge margin, yet I've seen more videos of Soviet tanks requiring multiple drone hits to take out completely, while Leo 2s have literally been penetrated by a non-HEAT warhead carried by one shitty ass drone, and taken out completely. Crew safety is only relevant to low-intensity conflicts where the worst you'd usually face is RPGs and IEDs that can't compare to a modern ATGMs and heavy artillery. Hitting the autoloader in a T-series is not nearly as easy as you think. It's a 3 meter wide, 30cm tall disk of steel located at the bottom of the hull in the middle. Hitting it frontally is near impossible. Hitting it from behind is blocked by the engine. And hitting it from the side, takes precise aim and enough power to penetrate spaced armor and ERA. Most grunts in the trenches are not, in fact, armed as such + ATGM crews are vulnerable, Ukr Javelin crews talked about the risks and how often enough they fail to get a shot off because the tank starts raining HE shells on their positions because its sensors pick up the designators and they have to move positions. The only easy way to hit the autoloader is from beneath (mines) or from the top, and even then, this has been reduced heavily. Most of the drone footage involving turret tosses on Both sides involve mobility kills, abandoned tanks and drones finishing them off.
>>489789245add Cherkasy and Kremenchukdamnhow does this get called "cucking"?
>>489788806>ArmataArmata was getting reevaluated after Syria and Yemen already where ATGM saturation put usefulness of big badass tanks into question. Given how things evolved in Ukraine you can safely assume the project got axed as FPV drones entered the chat too.You can be 100% sure tank design will not be going in the King Tiger direction anymore for a good while.
>>489789109of course it's a secret Russian technology, no other army has it, or else why are retarded wectroons still supplying hyhyls with their rusted overpriced ineffective shit and not with "muh cheap Chinese drones with a warhead attached"
>>489789109Cool beans, there's also videos from Yemen and Syria where Saudi Abrahams and Turkish Leo2's get dabbed on by Malyutkas and Kornets. And of course all the fresh Gaza and Lebanon content where Merkavas get rekt by 70's ATGMs.
>>489788486The leclerc is not safer. It's armor is pathetic. 400-500mm RHA steel equivalent at best. And that autoloader isn't isolated, so any hit to that exposed as fuck area and that thing kills 3/4s of the crew instantly, since most of them are in the turret.
>>489783011Dead mongoloid faggot. A 'Buryat'. Should have stayed in siberia. Fucked with the Aryan bull, got the Aryan horn. Just look at the grotesque sub human. Like some sort of dead zoo animal.
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>>489789168it's not the propellant, Russian tanks are made for war and have many HE shells in the rack, which contains explosiveswectroon retarded tanks are in fact merely heavy anti-tank SPGs loaded mostly with AP rebars without explosives
>>489789541Other parts of the programme are going to be used. No point talking about it during the war but I fully expect the T-14 to only appear again after the war is done. Much modified with extra gizmos.This war has kind of showed that you need to ditch the BMPs, really should just be focusing on the BMP3 entirely now as a minimum and look to a replacement with better protection.
>>489788622delete this travesty immediately
>>489789541Mass production of active self protection systems would be a good start, the trouble is those that are out now don’t protect against drones so it would be retarded to adopt a new gen of tank now
explosion in Kropyvnytskyibut yeah, inferior tanks nshit
>>489789541It's unlikely that the project got axed completely, just back to the drawing board hell until war ends and they can afford to start the lenghty retooling process.
>>489788233>Autoloaders aren't adopted due to doctrine.Yes, they are. Soviet divisions had 5 maintenance companies compared to 1 maintenance company for American tank divisions. There were more mechanics and personnel allocated to the maintenance of the tanks in Soviet divisions than in American ones. Tank crewmen are not alone in a formation of 10,000 people. Both the T-64 and the T-72 autoloaders had a requirement to be able to cycle over 1,000 rounds without failure. The T-72 autoloader was reported by the Americans to cycle more than 3,000 rounds without failure. They were built robustly and simply so that even someone with basic mechanical skill could repair them. This was part of Soviet doctrine, to create simple, efficient tanks that are cheap, quick to repair, quick to deploy and aren't bloated. I will admit Russia is not on this level any more, but that's more of a result of post-Soviet decay and corruption than doctrine. >Loader is also an extra pair of eyes. Perhaps, but that's kind of negligible at this point with modern cameras and sensors.
>489789710
>>489790043You're talking about soviets when i'm talking about NATO
really wish google earth actuallu updated so i couldd ssee how fucked ukraine is just like that guy who flew a drone over north korea and ssaw how depopulated the country wasoh well time to goon to tik tok girls
>>489790200>that guy who flew a drone over north korea and ssaw how depopulated the country wasLink?
>>489790200only the capital region in North Korea has urban regions innit?
>>489788622From what I’m hearing, Bradley is actually quite good. The better survivability meme is real in that case, compared to tinfoil shitboxes like BMD.
>>489790147What the fuck is that disgusting Russian creature
>>489790268https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1bongap/drone_pics_of_north_korea_i_was_in_china_my_drone/?share_id=2yE3nGc2ZZxt-VXzlE1qr&utm_content=1&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=4
>>4897897832 things. 1 the BMP-2 has its pluses and it's not in production anyway, no point in using newest stuff first. It would take me a while to compile all the information, but generally speaking the BMP-2 is a lot more survivable than people realize, but the problem is most armor "experts" are fucking morons that think an IFV should be capable of withstanding anti-tank fire, when that's patently not its job. It's a fire-support vehicle, as opposed to the Battle taxi BTR role or the heavy armor role of tanks. The BMP-3 is in ramped production and up-armored and improved variations have already been presented, but during a war, retooling and changing production lines to integrate massive changes. The BMP-3M 125 Dragoon is an example of an excellent modernization, but for the same reasons the T-34M didn't reach production, it's easier to add small improvements and keep production high during war time to supply the troops with enough, rather than focus on perfectionism, which is what lead to Panthers and Tigers being so low production and so, strategically and operationally insignificant.
>"My Russnigger friends, when you get btfo in a debate just call them a tranny." Isaac Putinski (Jew)
Are hohols going to be ok? I hope nobody is going to strike the decision-making bunkers this time, I don't to see NATO people getting hurt!
>>489790147Apologies, then m80
>>489790520really made me laugh. Here's your (you) for this bait.
>>489790452>believing reddit footage This was early morning footage, no shit there aren't thousands of people out there.
>>489790452you used so much URLwhy not just post your SSN?
>>489789109It’s almost as if laws of physics are universal, and shaped charge versus armor plating situation works the same regardless of which side fires on which. Russian tanks die to drones and ATGMs just as much as Western ones do. I don’t get why it is controversial.
>>489790077jadnigger ought to be the small monkey.
>>489790667i think night time in any us city at 3 am more alive>>489790735what are you going to do pussy?
>Kyiv - take cover!!!not my problem
>>489790520But they are really trannies sgt sanchez. What should I call them if not trannies?
>>489790452>American >ain't shitposting on an iPhone you are poor third worlder migrant,aren't you?
explosion in Vinnitsyathe cuckening continues...
>>489785479BASADO
>>489790452>here is street photo, its a proof your country have 0 people, because all them died in Kursk oblast
Oh Jesus wont you please us!
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>>489790889prob my iridium browser>>489790911its 8 months old
>>489783011>H-help me Mr. Trump my economy is collapsing!!!!!!!
>>489790848>not my problemuhm, based?
explosions in the city of Kiev
>>489790995That was a joke fren, since apart from all the old retarded NK memes we now also have invisible North Korean army on the frontline
>>489791002I look like this and say this. But my red team is actually winning the war.
>>489790976I can't be concerned, I don't even recycle. All I have to do is support Israel and I get my ticket to heaven.
>>489790823>night time in any us city at 3 am more aliveThe comparison is moot. I've been to more than a few such cities and it depends on the area and times. At 3-5AM San Francisco bay area is pretty dead in a lot of areas, while Boston is jumping. Philly depends on the season, Atlanta is always bustling while places up North are usually pretty dead at night.
i don't see shithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2gC37ILQmk
>>489783011Ukrainians are burning russians with American made/supplied switchblade loitering munitions. A bunch of strikes.https://files.catbox.moe/pc61zp.mp4
>>489791002Damn, the Russian economy has been collapsing since the start of the war... I guess I will have to wait 14 more days specifically to see it collapse in real time!
>>489791002Ok salamander, back to DeviantArt now.
>>489790440they explode just alright since they store spare tows insideBMPs and BMDs are infantry transport and support vehicles, not tanking shots vehicles, they protect the infantry on the way from random bullets and fragmentsonce on the battlefield, the infantry fights like infantry does, while having a powerful gun/mortar/ATGM launcher behind thembrapley can tank some light shots from the front and it's pretty much all it can, providing zero support for the infantry fighting
>>489789818on the contrary, I'll make more!
>>489783814Russia keeps sending out scouts and finding out Ukraine is out of men.
>>489788290Trump wants to invade Mexico not Russia.
I’m gay
>>489791386My condolences.
>>489783011here>>489791194only one of them is a switch blade strike, I should say. The rest are standard FPV OWA UAVs, it looks like.
Looking forward to tommorrow's Agent Z tweet on X: "Thanks to our diligent defenders who shot down 2,437 of 2,4327 drones and missiles. Spoke to my counterpart in Cabo Verde about our urgent need for anti missile missiles,"
>>489791386/uhg/ is down the hall.
>>489791341Is it so hard to imagine that Ukraine is trading Donetsk for time just like the Russians trade land for time.
>>489783408>>489787104Hohols are going to force Putin to return them to the 17th century just in time for winter
>>489791386
>>489791497also, explosions in the city of Zhytomyr.
>>489790440>BMD>comparing a vehicle designed to be AIR-DROPPED to an army IFVLMAO. Even then the BMD still has comparable or better fire-power and mobility. As I said before, an IFV isn't meant to tank hits from anti-tank weapons, because in order to do so, you create a fucking barn of a vehicle that attracts every anti-tank weapon in the area. The Bradley weighs as much as an M4 Sherman and has worse protection and worse fire-power and worse mobility, while being expensive as fuck. Even the Israeli's didn't want them, despite initially placing orders. Good job.
>>489787342>>489788053Hamish, is that you?
>>489791507It's not hard to imagine but it's not like they have a choice. It's either lose there or lose somewhere else later. I guess they can hope that Russia freezes the conflict to negotiate with Trump but I don't see why Russia would at this point.
>>489791280mommy kinda got a dumpy
>>489791601>t-they were just lucky lmao
>>489789468btw those tanks were allegedly destroyed by turks so they dont get captured by terrorists>>489791601no but that article is kind of what im trying to say
>>489791246>bmd>protecting or supporting anythingThe river crossing requirement for russian ifv's was a bad joke that went too far.
>>489791628russia will only negotiate in a deal where KSB will cleanse ukraine government from CIA wound + take eastern russian speaker majority state as a lesson. I don't think even trump is gonna let it happen.
>>489788619You forgot the propellant stored all around the turret. And you took this photo from Warthunder forums coping about the Challenger lol.
>>489791601>>489791710unironically ironic
now that the dust has settled, can we agree europe sucks?
>>489791386>>>/k/>>489786619
>>489791566And how many air-drops have been commited? How well did that airborn assault on gostolme airport go?
>>489791710>those tanks were allegedly destroyed by turksYeah, sure bud all ten of them. It totally isn't because the ammunition stored in the front of the Leo-2 is retarded.
>>489791872New baker neededNew baker neededNew baker needed
>>489791872Fuck you, I just realized you’re the coward Where is Kikekraine alfa spetsnaz faggot?Goodnight
>>489791717>oh wow, river crossings are dangerous and result in high casualties, who knew!?Amphibious requirements =/= no acknowledgement of danger, its because the alternative of pontoon bridges isn't better or easier in high-intensity conflicts.
Hi
>>489792041silly kots
Hope everyone is okay, praying for a quick peaceful end to the conflict
>>489791918Going to the bed so soon? My nigger enjoyer fren
>>489792041Hello.
>>489792041just as people get closer and closer to idiocracy, so do cats.
>>489788053>in realitywelcome to reality
>>489792041Oi
>>489792168cucktin won't do shi-ACCK
explosions in Ivano-Frankivskpicrel is from the 17th, this one is on par at least (so far) at the end of a marathon country-wide power grid and depot barrage would be a good time to nut.
>>489792258>2 in kyivyivnice
>>489792273but 8 atacums...
>>489791872>How well did that airborn assault on gostolme airport goActually the operation went well. The problem was the cuckery when Putin withdrew forces because Zelensky pretended to sue for peace, then turned around and activated the army. Your understanding of air-drops is also retarded. Obviously NOW there is no point, because the military situation is changed. Air-drops behind lines are meant for initial surprise strikes at the beginning of conflicts, which is why paratrooper deployment by Axis or Allies were limited primarily to first-day operations, such as D-Day. Honestly I have to wonder if you /uhg/faggots have any sense of how arrogant you are. The military is far from infallible, but if you think doctrines and methods in the military exist for no reason, you're genuinely retarded.
>>489783455KEK
>>489792103>>489792165>>489792168Oi, how has your day been?
explosions in the city of Khemelnetskyso let's have a debate about armored vehicles during the 2nd largest strike of the entire SMO.Astroturf tag teams
>>489791566What it's been designed to do doesn't matter, since there will be no airdrops any time soon. What matters is how it's used in real life. It's used as a troop transport, and it sucks at that. Same story with amphibious capability meme - we haven't seen a single BMP water crossing in this war, or in any wars last 20 years. It was a poor design choice, they would be better off with more armor.
>>489792236Greetings
more explosions in Kiev
>>489792387's alright mate
>>489792340You're arguing with the militarily illiterate, anon.
>>489783453Balkanize, derussify, demilitarise
>>489787019I am too drunk to get the joke. What are the buttons?- attack?- oreshnik stike?- Canada holocaust?
>>489792524>illiterate"Analphabet" is a better descriptor as it also describes their sexual proclivities
>>489792638Why are NAFOIDS like this?
>>489792454How you do fren?
>>489791717Agreed. Both airdropping and river crossings made sense for WWII-style manoeuvre warfare with little to no guided munitions. But that doctrine became obsolete with proliferation of ISR, MANPADs and ATGMs.
>>489792668What the fuck is a "phabet"??>>489792700I would smack the shit out of that white cat for stealing food. what a nigger.>>489792735>MANPADs and ATGMs.Replace this with "FPV drone" and you are correct.
explosions in Rivne, and Stryi is flashing. The gas transit and storage facility must have been almost repaired from last Spring's attack.
>>489792387Good.
>>489792888>I would smack the shit out of that white cat for stealing food. what a nigger.It's the imouto kot. My kot also lets his imouto (nbr) have his food and he will continue eating after she's done.
Abrams.
>>489792680A lot of grotesque outcasts finally found a thing they think they can use to gain a better standing in society and they will shove it in everyone's face. It's basically the common fundamental mechanics of everything "leftist".
just like Putin said in his Tucker interview which means that when it's done, comrade Z will be neutralized.
>>489792888Well, FPV is basically an ATGM with propellers instead of reactive drive. The warheads are same or very similar. >>489792340If I recall correctly, Gostomel had trops transported by helicopters, not airdropped. And this makes way more sense - a big, slow troop transport is just too vulnerable to everything which can shoot up, and is very easy to detect.
>>489792700Things have been good lately, the work christmas party is coming up soon, it'll have free beer and food. How are you doing?
>>489793039I don't understand weeb.I hate cats that are demanding. Like bitch, you live by my good graces. How fucking DARE you give me any 'tude? Fucking stupid cat.>>489793101>Fag-in-itchVodka-niggers running out of everything in this war: shells, shovels, and now even Russian flags with which to pose next to trophies. It's so fucking over.
>>489793197>FPV is basically an ATGM with propellers instead of reactive driveThere are more differences than that such as velocity of the hit, the explosive charge design (shaped penetrator?), and explosive amount.However you are overall correct. I am just nitpicking.
>>489793126>>489792680Social media has exponentially increased the level of physical isolation coupled with the "I support the current thing" groupthink de jour.
>>489793313and COVID helped.
GNZ
>>489793039Men let their imoutos get away with a lot of things that wouldn’t be tolerated from anyone else. This is true across many species.
alerts cancelled in Nikolaev and Odessa. Cool, I need sleep.
>>489791897>>489792340No, you're just a delusional hohol faggot that imagines that every single fucking river crossing in this war hasn't resulted in a vehicle graveyard, since it shockingly turns out that having no armor on vehicles makes them sort of pointless for their intended tasks.
>>489793447Good night
So whats up?
>>489783814Highly illegal teleportation tactics
>>489788053Real combat in an actual war is not a real world scenario lmao - absolute fucking kek.Hull down tank vs tank wankery is cold war nonsense. Notice how little of that happened in an actual modern war.
>>489792656Kinzhal (lit. agger), oreshnik (nutella), zemledelie (lit. agriculture). That last one is a bit sus, someone help.
>>489788053in a hull down "real world" scenario a Russian turret would be even harder to penetrate from the front, and with the ammo placed down low it will have no chance to even being touched by the spallingwhile all the wectroon ammo racks are at the back of their turrets and will cook off one way or another, as was proven by Saudis ambraps getting hit with RPG right in the front of the turret
>>489792656That looks like a poplar leaf so topola so Topol?
>>489793808LMAO "into the rear of the AZOVs" picrelsoif you bypass the conscripts with their hands up that were just pulled off the street while walking their dog delivered by the vans to the sausage grinder that Syrsky abandoned, can you count on fire support against the "blocking troops"? Unfriendly-friendly fire.
worst thing is, europe now thinks they are safe from a russian invasion because ukraine could stand for 3 years.
>The Biden administration doesn’t have enough time left to use the billions of dollars lawmakers have authorized to arm Ukraine, U.S. and congressional officials said, leaving in Trump’s hands what to do with the remaining money. >The administration still has more than $6.5 bln left in what is known as drawdown authority, which allows the DoD to transfer weapons and equipment to Ukraine from its own stocks.>The US would have to ship more than $110 mln worth of weapons a day, or just shy of $3 bln in Dec and Jan, to spend the remaining funds in time. “I would say it’s impossible,” one official said.
>>489794282Translation:>We're out of weapons
Several months after the war ends, some western scholar will examine the public records and take note that hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians just went missing, never heard from again.This will be used as evidence that Russia committed genocide in Ukraine.
>>489794242lowering the age to 18 (along with a ceasefire)gives them time to repurpose the abandoned VW factories into making 155mm shells
>>489793976Hey
>>489794381>picnice town
>>489794159how many russian weapons named after plants are there?
Who is bake?
>>489794381millions have also fled, and it's going to be like the jews all over again>muh 6 million ukrainians have vanished!
>>489794598Tons. All selfpropelled guns for example.
>>489794621300 second timer, but I will bake.
Baker?
>>489794717Good, you do it
>>489788233>Loader is also an extra pair of eyes.To do what, stick his head out of a hatch and get slaughtered by lancets or sniped or shredded by airburst? To be out of position looking around so that when the shooting starts he takes 10 seconds to scramble back into position just in time to get blown up because the other guy got the drop on him? To make the fighting compartment 33% larger (closer to 50% since mutts are so fat) because of his presence and increase the size of the entire vehicle? All the westoid 4th man does is make the tank more vulnerable and waste manpower.
the alerts are cancelling from east to westit looks like Russia is going to pick up its bombs and go home>>489794838not all NATOfags sound alike
Fresh bread, fuckers>>489795010>>489795010>>489795010
>>489794381so that's how it was done. I should take a look at amputee statistics in ww2.>>489794701>selfpropelled gunsI know jack about weapons or military hardware in general, this means fancy artillery right?>making plant name flashcards
>>489784663Me fren
