Previous: >>492067730▶Day: 1033 — Daily battlefield assessment: https://isw.pub/UkraineConflictUpdatesISW▶Latest>Smoooking accident at Stalnoy Kon’ oil depot near Oryol>Slovakian PM Fico in Moscow holding talks with putin>Trump's team informs Europe that he wants 5% NATO defence spending target and that US aid to Ukraine will continue - FT>The bodies of 503 fallen Ukrainian defenders were returned to Ukraine>New casualty record for russian army - 2200 people killed or wounded in a single day>Several fires in Rylsk, Kursk oblast after reported missile strike and air defense activity>Explosion at a security department building in occupied Donetsk>We are in discussions about peacekeeping contingent in Ukraine - Zelenskyy>China-russia relations have reached a level never seen before - putin>Novoshakhtinsk refinery has been hit>US President-elect Trump's special envoy to Ukraine to make fact-finding trip to Kyiv, European capitals in early January - Reuters>Ukraine says it killed senior russian general (Commander of Troops of Radiological, Chemical and Biological Defence Lieutenant General Igor Kirillov) who died in scooter blast in moskovy>Security service of Ukraine exposed a russian spy network, hunting for F-16 jets, 12 suspects were detained in 5 regions>EU Foreign ministers greenlighted the 15th sanctions package on russia for undermining territorial integrity of Ukraine (including sanctions on China and North Korea)▶Telegramhttps://rentry.org/telosint2023https://t.me/ukr_pics▶Intelhttps://t.me/DeepStateENhttps://odin.tradoc.army.mil/WEG (equipment explorer)https://ukr.warspotting.net (visually confirmed losses)▶Mapshttps://deepstatemap.live/enhttps://liveuamap.com/en▶DISPOSABLE SOLDIER (diary of a RU mobik) (translation courtesy of cofi anon)TOUR 1:https://files.catbox.moe/34fuhc.txtTOUR 2:https://files.catbox.moe/uj2wut.txtTOUR 3:https://files.catbox.moe/hmyd98.txtTOUR 4:https://files.catbox.moe/cdenxe.txt
>>492074200TOTAL ZIGGER DEATH
russians be like:>pee pee poo poo
>>492074200I HOPE AND PRAY THAT GORELEAF DIES THIS CHRISTMAS !!!I HOPE AND PRAY THAT GORELEAF DIES THIS CHRISTMAS !!!I HOPE AND PRAY THAT GORELEAF DIES THIS CHRISTMAS !!!AMEN !!!
>>492074200Daily reminder that supporting a nonwhite invasion of a white ethnostate makes you a race traitor
>>492074200*Ting ting ting ting ting* Gentlemen, if I may have your attention please, I have a brief announcement of the utmost importance to make... *Ahem* Fuck faggots, fuck trannies, fuck SJWs, fuck socialists, fuck communists, fuck marxists, fuck nips, fuck gooks, fuck chinks, fuck SEAs, fuck pacific islanders, fuck persians, fuck curryniggers, fuck sandniggers, fuck spics, fuck afrolatinos, fuck niggers, fuck kikes, fuck jannies and most importantly... FUCK ZIGGERS! Thank you, that is all!
TZD
>>492074292Let's see if your prayers are fulfilled by Christmas
Ziggers are going all out today, what got them so riled up?
>>492074292>I HOPE AND PRAY THAT GORELEAF DIES THIS CHRISTMAS !!!>AMEN !!!GoreLeaf is a bottom gay.When asked (on several occasions) if he (the GoreLeaf) is a bottom gay, he never replied and never deny it.
>>492074292>I HOPE AND PRAY THAT GORELEAF DIES THIS CHRISTMAS !!!>I HOPE AND PRAY THAT GORELEAF DIES THIS CHRISTMAS !!!>I HOPE AND PRAY THAT GORELEAF DIES THIS CHRISTMAS !!!>AMEN !!!
>>492074200Thank you for the "Bread", oh Monolith
>>492074353Hear hear! A fine toast! TZD!
>>492074394>GoreLeaf is a bottom gay.>When asked (on several occasions) if he (the GoreLeaf) is a bottom gay, he never replied and never deny it.
>>492074439Thank you, fellow member of the aryan master race o/
>>492074386>what got them so riled up?Where should i begin? Bunch of dronings, Ukyk victory and some other stuff i dont even remember because my infornational capacity is oversaturated
>>492074353This Also forever remember the "bike" assault https://files.catbox.moe/taxdh6.MP4
>>492074397Stop posting your boyfriend's fingers, you filthy bottom faggot.I'm sure you are liking off his fingers every night after he shoves them deep in your asshole.
>>492074386Trump betrayed them, they had a record loss of ziggers two days ago, their cities are being exploded by bitter veteran and Ukrainian drones, low quality shills are fucking up and outing themselves frequently so they try to slide
>>492074577And never forget that trees kill ziggers
>>492074292imagine getting this mind broken over a leaf
>>492074592>Stop posting your boyfriend's fingers, you filthy bottom faggot.>I'm sure you are liking off his fingers every night after he shoves them deep in your asshole.
Lmao what happened to deepstate maps? Did he die?
>>492074658So brave!
Christmas miracle: Jewish child trafficking ring broken up this week!
>>492074749Imagine storing images of pajeets on your computer,....lol you must have pajeet gay boyfriend if you love them so much. kek
>>492075107>Imagine storing images of pajeets on your computer,....lol>you must have pajeet gay boyfriend if you love them so much. kek
>>492075107Hey post the pic of you're beige tier cope .
>>492074401you are welcome
>>492075107>Imagine storing images of pajeets on your computer,....lol >you must have pajeet gay boyfriend if you love them so much. kek
>>492075107>saaar do not redeeemWhatever you say, poossy
DAILY REMINDER !!!
>>492075596>DAILY REMINDER !!!
>>492075596Thanks for showing everyone how brown you are little slave good boy . Here's another (You)
>>492074401it's kinda funny that HoC has that bug of enemies drop "bread" armor. no matter which stalker, you can't escape the "bread".
>>492075596brown lol
>>492075596nobody wants to be the color of dirt
>self hating pajeetprobably the funniest chug poster
>>492075927Whut
>>492076044enemies have their own internal versions of armors, these use the bread texture as inventory icon. through some bug, they sometimes get dropped for the player to loot.
>>492075596
>>492074200GUY WE NEED VOLUNTEERS ASAP. SINCE I KNOW YOU GUYS LOVE UKRAINE SO MUCH PLEASE CONSIDER IMMEDIATELY JOINING THE FOREIGN LEGION. FIGHT ALONG OUR BROTHERS ON THE FRONT LINES. https://ildu.com.ua/>https://ildu.com.ua/https://ildu.com.ua/>https://ildu.com.ua/
>>492071380I was b@ by a Zanny for 14 days for making fun at zigger children blowing bums for spare change. They are destroying 4ch imo.
KINO ALERT>KINO ALERTKINO ALERT>KINO ALERT
>>492077201you just reminded them of their childhood.
>>492075927I love bread
HTS (ISIS offshoot aka Hohol Terrorist Scum) took control of Syria with the help of SBU drone operators CIA servitors support themselves KEK KEK KEEEEEKLatuff has never been more actual kek....
>>492077245Orieshnik if it was actually lethal
>>492077868>Ukrainian rebel is a nazi>We're supposed to hate thisDo you know where you are Ngubu?
>>492077201Most jannies on /pol/ are ziggers, what did you expect? Same shit is happening online in any media which is even a little bit popular on the swampIf they can't kill white people it's their problem to shit online, because that's all they can do
>>492076500>>492075596>SAAR WHITE PEOPLE ARE OVERRATED SAAR!!!FUCKING JEETNIGGERS KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>492076710Why would I join a foreign legion if I donate 1.5k$ on TZD monthly + in active Reserve?You're kinda retarded SAAR
>>492078366I still dont understand why the saaar puts those weird borders on his pics but still brown moment
>>492074592
>A sailor named Nikita from Kotelny Island wrote to Fighterbomber. He complained that helicopters arrive once every few months and asked for help to make them arrive more often… now Nikita is going to war!1/4
>>492074317It's Banderists who are the invadors in Donetsk, Luhansk and Crimea.
>>4920787592/2>it's just wind bro
DEATH TO BANDERA
>>492078861>2/4*3/4
Nibulina status?
>>4920789854/4
>May 31 exchange: 45 Russian bodies vs. 212 Ukrainian bodies.>June 14 exchange: 32 Russian bodies vs. 254 Ukrainian bodies.>August 4 exchange: 38 Russian bodies vs. 250 Ukrainian bodies.>October 18 exchange: 89 Russian bodies vs. 501 Ukrainian bodies.>November 8 exchange: 37 Russian bodies vs. 563 Ukrainian bodies.>November 29 exchange: 48 Russian bodies vs. 502 Ukrainian bodies.>December 20 exchange: 42 Russian bodies vs. 508 Ukrainian bodies.Turns out that 600 FABs a month has consequences.
>>492074292lmfao mindbroken pidor
T Z D
>>492077329>>492078035Giving thridskins the internet was the greatest mistake we've ever done.God why do we to be stuck on this planetb with these creatures.
>>492074292We have humour leaf and goreleaf, both are the best thing in this board.
>>492078848>NO U-The totally organic and non immigrant from Poland
>>492079224>>May 31 exchange: 45 Russian bodies vs. 212 Ukrainian bodies.>>June 14 exchange: 32 Russian bodies vs. 254 Ukrainian bodies.>>August 4 exchange: 38 Russian bodies vs. 250 Ukrainian bodies.>>October 18 exchange: 89 Russian bodies vs. 501 Ukrainian bodies.>>November 8 exchange: 37 Russian bodies vs. 563 Ukrainian bodies.>>November 29 exchange: 48 Russian bodies vs. 502 Ukrainian bodies.>>December 20 exchange: 42 Russian bodies vs. 508 Ukrainian bodies.>Turns out that 600 FABs a month has consequences.
>>492079224>700k dead pidors according the orange man himself
>>492074401based imageSOC is still one of my top-3 games, just supreme gameplay and atmosphere mixed with some of the most responsive gunplay/AI I've seen outside of F.E.A.R.TZD as always.
>>492079710>>492079923These exchanges are reported directly by the Ukrainian Cabinet of Ministers website: https://koordshtab.gov.ua/posts/do-ukrayiny-povernuly-tila-503-polehlykh-zakhysnykiv-1763. >700k dead pidorsKek, then where do Syrsky's 700,000 come from? Just a few days ago, he reconfirmed to Le Monde that Russia now has that force in the country. Necromancy?
>>492080119>RASHA COME WEETH MORE MAN, RASHA WEEN 2 MORE WEEK
russians kicked out of kamyanske, interesting
Seven jillion gorillion dollar for Ukraine NOW.
>>492080285>Muslim Communist>shills for Russia Checks out, hopefully they don't miss next time
https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1734834771014051.webmhttps://i.4cdn.org/gif/1734834771014051.webmhttps://i.4cdn.org/gif/1734834771014051.webm
>>492080285i love ukraine so much, more dead commies please
>>492080248>>492080285>>492080119>>492079927>>492079710>>492079923HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT, SOMETHING IT HAPPENING IN KHARKIV, THEY'RE PUSHING THEM OUThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9wWdATxeUI&list=RDMM&index=20
>>492080248>ask for source>get a Ukrainian government websiteI can see why you're upset, but they don't have a reason to lie on this one. The exchange rates are laughably one-sided, and that's to be expected. We don't see hundreds of Ukrainian FABs raining the other way.
>>492079710
>>492079710>>492080451
>>492080119I doubt drampf would use ukie figures chud. He's citing the mutt Intel briefings
>>492080483
>>492074200You are livestock, your children are livestock all being harvested by Blackrock aka Zionists, with this in mind the future is easily predicted, all roads lead to a Greater Israel and NWO or WW3 and you all die.
>>492080517>Inb4 the tranny responds with warslop
>>492080443>>492080451>>492080483>>492080517>>492080560RASHA WEEN YOO TRANNY
>>492080555JEETNIGGER STILL TALKING ABOUT BLACKROCKKEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>492080443>The exchange rates are laughably one-sidedAlmost like most Russians are killed on Russian occupied areas
All filthy goyim are being exterminated. All hail the supreme Chosen peoples Israeli NWO.
>>492080484We know from the Thugshaker leaks that the US uses Ukrainian MoD figures, and they even expressed doubt about their accuracy when reporting them. Your 700k dead figure makes no sense in light of Syrsky's revelations about the number of Russians in Ukraine, and it doesn't jive with the continuous loss of ground.
>>492080741those same leaks also confirmed much higher Russian casualties, damn you're dumb
>>492080699>Almost like most Russians are killed on Russian occupied areasBilhorod children?
>>492078468I AM FROM DONBASS WAS REFUGEE TO AMERICA IN 2023. WE MUST SAVE OUR BROTHERS, GO FIGHT
>>492079224We've been over this today, body exchange means nothing in terms of the general casualties causality ratio.
>>492080699>Russia's main advantage is artillery and FABs>which would kill Ukrainians behind the line / when there aren't Russians in close proximity>meanwhile, Ukraine is supposedly cutting down meatwave after meatwave of mobiks in frontal assaults>leaving piles of them right on top of Ukrainian positions>Russia still has more Ukrainian bodies than Ukraine has RussiansMake that make sense, please. >>492080801Lel, I just said in that post that the leaks show the Pentagon relying on Ukrainian claims while expressing doubt about the accuracy of those claims. That was the entire point of that post, which you somehow missed.
>>492080824>I AM FROM DONBASSOh a bombass child? Sad that I didn't kill you back in 2014, should've done soGreetings from free Kharkiv btw
>>492080560>>492080950Hey "fellow Americans" let's see a hand, timestamp and outlet :^)
Rabbi gleefully cheer on WW3 & total slaughter of the goyimhttps://files.catbox.moe/jpmequ.mp4
>>492080840If it was going the other way, then that would be a pro-Russian cope by accounting for the circumstances of corpse retrieval mentioned in >>492080950. When Russia is instead on the winning end of these exchanges in spite of these circumstances, then that's quite indicative. And again, it makes perfect sense. The average FAB expenditure is 600 a month. Unless you guys think those are all bombing empty fields, or if you unironically think that Russians are zerg-charging across the frontline every day, then the side with inferior fire support is going to suffer more. >>492081065Kek, cry to Hiro if you want to make this a gay ID forum. A white American has zero reason to suck Ukrainian cock like you do.
>>492079468agreed we never should have tried to uplift them.
>>492080741>the side that's on the attack most of the time is losing more men while gaining some groundWow, unthinkable
>>492080950>Make that make sense, please. I can't make your retarded logic make sense, Russians are constantly on the offensive and this always leads to higher casualties. Bodies aren't recovered unless it's safe to do so, hence why a lot of those Ukrainian bodies in the latest exchange were from fucking Bakhmut nearly 2 years ago.>the Pentagon relying on Ukrainian claims while expressing doubt about the accuracy of those claims. The Pentagon can make their own estimates (which they do) and if they didn't believe Ukrainian estimates at all then they wouldn't bother to use them. Dumb shill.
>>492081184Lying eurasian pussy, stop hiding behind my glorious flag
>>492081065>post wall outlet to prove that artillery advantage doesn't equate to casualty advantageI'm assuming that made more sense in your head
>>492080864
Wars exist to cull the strong men out of society so that the elite Jews can rule over a further weakened and feminized remainder. Also ritual sacrifice to various gods and other entities.
>>492081338>He won't do itLying eurasian pussy confirmed, stop hiding behind my glorious flag
>>492081400No, you see Zelenski is one of the good jews, not the satanic pedophile tribe
>>492081338>artillery advantage doesn't equate to casualty advantageIt would if that artillery wasn't dog shit quality or followed by constant poorly armored infantry assaults
>>492081400The hexagram is the Star of Remphan. Before Judaism is was the symbol of Cronos which Phoenicians sacrificed children to in a ritual named Moloch.Rempha is the ancient Egyptian name for Saturn.It's also the sign of the beast 666. Six points, six triangles, six angles. Jews are literally the seeds of Satan.We are ruled by insane and bloodthirsty cultists.The Demon Jewshttps://files.catbox.moe/wi6y1v.mp4
>>492081413Who are you to be making demands?
>>492081594An actual American :^)
>>492080950Russian govt doesn't have to pay the family if there is no body
>>492080950>Russia's main advantage is artilleryNot anymore it ain't.
>>492081235That wasn't your argument. You're claiming 700,000 Russian dead, while Syrsky claims 700,000 Russians currently in Ukraine. Given that the entire size of the Russian army is about 1.5 million, apparently every single unit in the Russian armed forces is currently in Ukraine and they've lost half of all that without a noticeable dent in their performance. Impressive. As for your claim on attackers always losing more, >>492081307that's a general rule of thumb which doesn't account for one side having zero air support and being at a major artillery disadvantage. >Bodies aren't recovered unless it's safe to do soMeaning that Russia wouldn't recover any of the bodies created by FAB strikes in the rear, and don't these mobik assaults always go so poorly that Ukraine mops them up with ease?>hence why a lot of those Ukrainian bodies in the latest exchange were from fucking Bakhmut nearly 2 years ago.The ministry website doesn't mention that anywhere. What's your source? >The Pentagon can make their own estimates (which they do) The leaks showed that they use Ukrainian estimates. It's right there in the papers.>they wouldn't bother to use them.But they did, while explicitly stating their doubts about their accuracy. You're arguing against literal Pentagon papers here.
>>492081645Actual americans are defending their own country, not Israel and other shitholes.
>>492081792Lying eurasian pussy, stop using my glorious flag
>>492081862You're not American, so what we do with our money doesn't concern you :^)
>muh artillery advantage
>>492081528>>492081736Lol>>492081885Quiet down, Eduardo.
>>492081594And how many artillery barrels do they produce yearly?Clearly the communist genius wouldn't be so stupid they forgot that barrels wear out and need replacement? So they probably produce like 1000 barrels Monthly, right?Right?
>>492077868Whatever happened to that faggot Latuff
>>492080285>american communist party chairmanDo It Again Bomber Budanov!
>>492082006>I AMIREEKAN YOO SPEEK
>>492082006>Feb 19, 2023Lol
>>492081931>You're not american because you don't defend israelPost nose
>>492081792>Given that the entire size of the Russian army is about 1.5 millionit's not a given though
>>492081338>artillery superiority have to hit what you're aiming at first.
>>492081184You think counting corpses is the way to 'win' this war? Newsflash, retard: dead bodies don't tell the whole story.Yeah, Ukraine is handing over more bodies. Maybe it's because they actually give a shit about their dead and want to give them a proper burial, unlike your glorious Russian army that leaves their own to rot in fields. Or maybe it's because they control more territory where the fighting is happening, so they have more access to the bodies. Or maybe they have different priorities when it comes to exchanges.And those FABs? Yeah, they're nasty, but they're not magic. They don't automatically kill every Ukrainian soldier within a mile radius. You think the Ukrainians are just standing around in open fields waiting to get bombed?You're so desperate to see Russia 'winning' that you're ignoring all the other factors that could explain these numbers.
>>492082084KEKAROO?
>>492082101Stop dodging, be the big manly patriot that you are: Post that hand, with a timestamp and an outlet. You can make history and be the first American vatnik to actually do it.
>Dostoevsky is more significant than the entirety of the Ukraine Discuss
>>492081792>apparently every single unit in the Russian armed forces is currently in Ukraine and they've lost half of all that without a noticeable dent in their performance.They had to mobilize about 300k mobiks, hire 30k mercs a month and still were forced to throw precious conscripterinos in the grinder in Kursk and beg norks for more meat
>>492082187>They don't automatically kill every Ukrainian soldier within a mile radiusIt’s less and FABs are dropped on houses occupied by ukronazis>You think the Ukrainians are just standing around in open fields waiting to get bombed?Yes
>>492081594>CNNIt's bullshit, they counted only 1 type of shell for the West vs all types for Russiahttps://theins.ru/antifake/271950>The problem is that when they name the number of shells that the US and Europe will produce, they are talking about shells of one caliber, the main one - 155 mm. And when they say that Russia will produce 4.5 million of its shells, they count all artillery shells, that is, the main 152 mm, and some 122 mm rocket projectile, and all the other shells too. So, naturally, they have 4.5 million shots there. What, then let's count the cartridges too, then Russia will have 10 million shells, right?>>492081792>that's a general rule of thumbYeah and it doesn't apply here, Ukraine also has some air support and the artillery advantage isn't as wide as you shills are so desperate to make it sound.>Meaning that Russia wouldn't recover any of the bodies created by FAB strikes in the rear, and don't these mobik assaults always go so poorly that Ukraine mops them up with ease?That literally has nothing to do with my statement, body recovery is mostly done when you're not in danger yourself. >The ministry website doesn't mention that anywhere. What's your source? Nov 8th exchange, 1/3 of the bodies from Donetsk were killed around Bakhmuthttps://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-russia-exchange-fallen-soldiers-bodies-november-2024/33195044.html>The leaks showed that they use Ukrainian estimates. It's right there in the papers.And they wouldn't bother with them (especially internally) if they didn't think they were reasonable.
>>492082042Are artillery barrels the new cope of reddit
>>492082084You speak like a Mexican. Post timestamp plz. >>492082098A few months ago, actually. I knew your one cope would be to focus on the photo date.>>492082104>>492082369Russia's total military size was estimated at 1.3-1.5 million before the war. Even accounting for the 300k mobilization wave, you're claiming that almost half their entire military is now dead. Logically, that would mean the other half is at least wounded, but assuming that you meant the slightly less retarded "700k casualties," that's still a 50% reduction in their entire military without anyone else commenting on that or stopping their advances. Putin must have the necromicon.
>>492082394well we know russians are lying in open fields and I don't think they will be getting back up.
>Tolstoevsky is more significant than the entirety of the Ukra..uhhh>I forgor to wash my pinus this is chaos
>>492079710$50,000,000,000.00SECURED FOR UKRAINEALL RESTRICTIONS HAVE BEEN LIFTED ON LONG RANGE STRIKES!30 // 30 JAKE BROE TRUCKS DELIVERED TO UKRAINE + 250 DRONESTHIRD FUNDRAISER: $1,000,000.00 FOR 1,000 DAYS OF WARUPDATE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD-Jaag3wAUTHANK WERNHER VON BRAUNUKRAINE IS NOW MASS PRODUCING THEIR OWN DRONES & BALLISTIC MISSILESSTORM SHADOW // HIMARS APPROVEDPENTAGON ANNOUNCEDNEW AID PACKAGEADDITIONAL $8,000,000,000.00 SECURED FOR UKRAINE'S WAR EFFORT --- WONDERFUL NEWS.FURTHERMOREUKRAINE TO RECIEVE 2+ BILLION IN AIDFROM THE U.K. [Annually]TRUMP'S OFFICIALS INCLUDING GENERAL KELLOGG HAVE MET WITH UKRAINE'S OFFICIALS ZIGGERS HAVE FOOLED THEMSELVES, YET AGAIN THIS WILL BE WORSE THAN 4/20 AID BILL PASSING --- MARK MEIN WORDS ALL LONG RANGE STRIKES NOW APPROVED RUSSIA IS THE FIRST NUCLEAR POWER TO BE INVADED BY A FOREIGN ARMY IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE, UNTIL IT GETS WORSE BEST PART RUSSIA IS IN A WAR ECONOMY, SO PUTIN DOUBLING DOWN NOW MEANS HE CANNOT END THE WAR OR RUSSIA WILL COLLAPSE ECONOMICALLY AND PUTIN // OLIGARCHS WILL BE HANGING FROM A GAS STATION... GRIM
>>492082394>UkronazisWhy do ziggers think Nazi is an insult? What is there to hate about National Socialism?
Send in the next cope meat wave
>>492082470Typical dodge tactics, is that what you learn in shill school Changovich?
>>492082470>conveniently ignores 30k mercs a month mentioned by both Jewtin and Shoigoo
>>492082537>Why do ziggers think Nazi is an insult?They are communists
>>492074577Is that discord
>>492074292This "meme", if you can even call it that, comes across as something a 60yo boomer would make as his impression of memes.
>>492082187>Yeah, Ukraine is handing over more bodies. Maybe it's because they actually give a shit about their dead This makes zero sense. What are you trying to say, that Ukraine collects LESS Russian corpses because they care more about their dead, while Russia collects MORE Ukrainian corpses because they care less? What? >Or maybe it's because they control more territory where the fighting is happeningThis is your only reasonable point, but I've already covered this. It flies in the face of your "hordes of mobiks mowed down every day" narrative since Ukraine apparently doesn't have access to the battlefield after most Russian assaults, and it leaves FABs on the table. >Or maybe they have different priorities when it comes to exchanges.Like what?
>>492081792>That wasn't your argument. You're claiming 700,000 Russian dead, while Syrsky claims 700,000 Russians currently in Ukraine. Given that the entire size of the Russian army is about 1.5 million, apparently every single unit in the Russian armed forces is currently in Ukraine and they've lost half of all that without a noticeable dent in their performance>Deftly sidesteps how Russia's been basically mobilizing nonstop to replenish lost numbers, and pulling forces from far east, naval, strategic rocketry forces too>Russian so-called "performance" includes controlling less territory now than in April of year 1 of the SMO, having Russian land occupied for months, and having long since lost the snail race to the polish border.Stop being such a disingenuous fuckstain - or actually dont, because all your arguments do is serve to inoculate people against your bullshit
>>492082452>functioning military equipment is reddit
>>492082262You can keep making demands all you like. As long as I can trick you into bumping jewpill threads my job is done.Tricking kikes and troons is a great pasttime
>>492082470>Russia's total military size was estimated at 1.3-1.5 million before the warnahalso they simply mobilise and recruit more people to replace the dead like anybody else, feel free to double down on your retardation like ziggers always do though
>>492082779What kind of trickery are you doing? We all know you're not from the Brooklyn province
>>492074292Another zigzog broke.
>>492082537Ukrainians are Nazis but not the correct kind of Nazis but even the OG Nazis were bad and something something Bandera
>>492082779>thinks he's tricking anyone>keeps bumping a thread he hates
TeeZeeDee
>>492082975>OOKRANIAN JOOEESH NAHTZEE SUKA BLYAT BANDERA RASHA WEEN 2 MORE WEEK
[not very] fresh north koreans
>>492082779>trick you into bumping jewpill threads my job is done.Are you retarded? That's why we're here.
>>492083159Are these the trad aryans they keep telling us about?
>>492082448>Yeah and it doesn't apply here...the rule of thumb where attackers take more casualties than defenders? Yeah, agreed. >Ukraine also has some air support Kek, how many FABs are they dropping compared to 600 a month?>and the artillery advantage isn't as wide as you shills are so desperate to make it sound.>as wideSome of your compatriots are claiming that there isn't a disadvantage at all. Glad that you have at least a few braincells. Still, it's universally acknowledged that Russia has a major artillery advantage. >body recovery is mostly done when you're not in danger yourself.To get to 700k dead, we're talking about a ton of failed meatwaves across the entire front day in and day out. Ukraine can only grab a couple dozen bodies every couple months in light of that? >https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-russia-exchange-fallen-soldiers-bodies-november-2024/33195044.html16% of the bodies exchanged were from Bakhmut according to that source, not a lot at all. >And they wouldn't bother with them (especially internally) if they didn't think they were reasonable.I'm beginning to think you never read the leaks. They say that the numbers are questionable but it's what they have to go on.
>>492083195Very aryan, even has CHINKen wings in his pocket
>>492083195the traddest saviours of Europe
>>492083222I want to spit in a zigger's face, how can I make that happen?
>>492082452russia doesn't have in production most soviet types of artillery they have deployed. they only have stockpiled barrels and spare parts for those types.they didn't build entirely new lines just to keep their obsolete D-20, Akatsiya, and Giatsint howitzers in service after they shot out all their available barrels. if they have factory space and manpower available they would make more MSTAs instead.
fat kimmy trades these to monke like livestock
>>492083272>>492083377The whitest Russian man
>>492082611The what? Are you talking about enlistment rates? Do you not understand how regular military sizes are maintained?>>492082764>Ukraine is winning, actuallyKek. Again, I can refer to Syrsky. He claims that Russia only had 100,000 men in Ukraine at the start of the invasion. When accounting for the militias, that's about 150,000. He now claims that Russia has 700,000, and this force is what's continuing to advance in Ukraine while Kiev ponders the conscription of teenagers. How do you start with 100,000, lose 700,000 (along with at least several hundred thousand wounded, but we'll throw you a bone here), and arrive at 700,000? >>492082847>nahBlanket denial is the only argument here.
>>492083450Kim sends his finest aryan men in exchange for goats and planes
>meanwhile the fagner proxy in Sudan gets curbstomped by the government forces for 3 months straight
>>492083436Have you not seen their manpower woes? Volunteer, faggot! They'd love you there!
>>492083630Like I just want to hock a loogie in a zigger's face
>>492083490so russia never sent more troops after their initial invasion force got btfo'd?
>>492083490>doubled downgood boy
>>492082728Are you fucking dense? Let me spell it out for you: Ukraine is fighting on its own land. They want their fallen soldiers back. Russia doesn't give a shit about its mobiks, so they're left to rot. That means more UKRAINIAN bodies are available for exchange. It's not rocket science, you fucking retard.You're so obsessed with these body counts that you can't see the bigger picture. Territory control, different priorities in negotiations, the fog of war, all these things play a role. It's not just about who's 'winning' according to your twisted logic.And yeah, there are reports of Russia throwing poorly trained mobiks into the meat grinder. That's not a contradiction. Ukraine might not always have access to the battlefield immediately after an assault, but bodies can be recovered later. Your 'FABs are everything' argument is bullshit. They're a factor, sure, but not the only one.As for different priorities: maybe Ukraine wants to get back its special forces guys, while Russia is happy to swap a bunch of conscripts. Maybe one side is more willing to negotiate than the other. Maybe one side values human life more than the other. Use your fucking brain, if you have one.Stop trying to make this about 'winning' and 'losing' based on body counts. You're just exposing yourself as a clueless shill who gets off on counting corpses.
>>492083490>brainlet doesnt know about military units that suffer in excess of 100% casualties or strategic troop surges
and one more
>>492082470Even your own article is stating that Russia's artillery advantage is decreasing.
>>492083490>Do you not understand how regular military sizes are maintained?Please tell how come the headcount barely grows despite constant recruitment of fresh meat
>>492083222>...the rule of thumb where attackers take more casualties than defenders? Yeah, agreed. No, that does apply because it's easily observable.>Kek, how many FABs are they dropping compared to 600 a month?I don't know but you seem to have this weird assumption that FABs are wunderwaffens that kill hundreds per strike. >Some of your compatriots are claiming that there isn't a disadvantage at all. Glad that you have at least a few braincells. Still, it's universally acknowledged that Russia has a major artillery advantage. It entirely depends on which theater or direction. Russia had a huge advantage at the beginning of the war but Ukraine received more accurate systems over time while Russia had to keep using older and older shit with worse quality shells.>To get to 700k dead, we're talking about a ton of failed meatwaves across the entire front day in and day out. Ukraine can only grab a couple dozen bodies every couple months in light of that? It's 700k casualties, not dead. And we're talking about an active frontline about 600 miles long. Russians have been pushing Ukrainians so obviously Ukrainians aren't going to be the ones recovering most Russian bodies.>16% of the bodies exchanged were from Bakhmut according to that source, not a lot at all. That's 1/3 of the bodies in Donetsk where a majority of the fighting has been in the past year. >I'm beginning to think you never read the leaks. They say that the numbers are questionable but it's what they have to go on.I'm starting to question if you have any braincells, every single source that isn't explicitly pro Russian admits Russia takes more casualties according to open source data due to their constant assaults.
>>492080285>Communist shitsskin enter a wazone>Preaches global revolution>Nearly dies to a missile salvoSorry but the global south must make sacrifices for meat cube.
>>492080285>Haz was almost killedAwwww, what a shame. His rocket will still get him, inshAllah.
>>492083754Is he still gooning under there?
>>49208371140K LOSSES
>>492074200> Trump's team informs Europe that he wants 5% NATO defence spending target and that US aid to Ukraine will continue - FTOH NO ZISTERS
>>492084248> Trump's team informs Europe that he wants 100% NATO defence spending target and that US aid to Ukraine will continue - FTOH NO ZISTERSTHIS IS SO OVER FOR RUZZIA
>>492083630>Nigerian half-breed making fun of a white manSorry, but TZD will continue until Spetnaz 007 acks himself in the frontlines.
>>492083684>>492083716>100k initial force>300k mobilizationYou guys are claiming that both the initial force and the entire mobilization wave got vaporized, along with another 300k, but Russia still has 700k in the country. Not only that, but according to Western sources, their army has GROWN in that same timeframe, despite eating a 700k loss. Just kek. >>492083711>They want their fallen soldiers back. Russia doesn't give a shit about its mobiks, so they're left to rot.So Ukraine is intentionally retrieving less Russian bodies because that somehow helps them get more Ukrainian bodies exchanged back. Sure. Your argument is idiotic even when accepting the logic that Russians just don't care about their dead because lmao orcs. >As for different priorities: maybe Ukraine wants to get back its special forces guys, while Russia is happy to swap a bunch of conscripts.Not a single body exchange has relied on rank.>You're just exposing yourself as a clueless shill who gets off on counting corpses.That's rich coming from the thread which has a "Goreleaf" celebrity. >>492083818Again, Western sources openly state that Russia's military is now bigger than it was pre-war. Tell me how you grow your military in three years while losing 700k dead.
>>492084248>>492084309>>492065655 (OP)$50,000,000,000.00SECURED FOR UKRAINEALL RESTRICTIONS HAVE BEEN LIFTED ON LONG RANGE STRIKES!30 // 30 JAKE BROE TRUCKS DELIVERED TO UKRAINE + 250 DRONESTHIRD FUNDRAISER: $1,000,000.00 FOR 1,000 DAYS OF WARUPDATE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD-Jaag3wAUTHANK WERNHER VON BRAUNUKRAINE IS NOW MASS PRODUCING THEIR OWN DRONES & BALLISTIC MISSILESSTORM SHADOW // HIMARS APPROVEDPENTAGON ANNOUNCEDNEW AID PACKAGEADDITIONAL $8,000,000,000.00 SECURED FOR UKRAINE'S WAR EFFORT --- WONDERFUL NEWS.FURTHERMOREUKRAINE TO RECIEVE 2+ BILLION IN AIDFROM THE U.K. [Annually]TRUMP'S OFFICIALS INCLUDING GENERAL KELLOGG HAVE MET WITH UKRAINE'S OFFICIALS ZIGGERS HAVE FOOLED THEMSELVES, YET AGAIN THIS WILL BE WORSE THAN 4/20 AID BILL PASSING --- MARK MEIN WORDS ALL LONG RANGE STRIKES NOW APPROVED RUSSIA IS THE FIRST NUCLEAR POWER TO BE INVADED BY A FOREIGN ARMY IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE, UNTIL IT GETS WORSE BEST PART RUSSIA IS IN A WAR ECONOMY, SO PUTIN DOUBLING DOWN NOW MEANS HE CANNOT END THE WAR
>>492082336BUT TARAS SHEVCHENKO!
>>492084248keknow watch this astroturfed shithole of a board go 180 and start shilling against trump
>>492083711Also entirely possible is that a jew is blatantly lying about body counts
>>492084247Ah finally, a eurasian who is brave enough to use his own flag
>>492084436Can't wait to bulldoze Pushkin's hut ISIS style
>>492084443Do the vatniggers really think that the USA will allow a total mobilized nation that blames the West for everything get what they want? This war will continue after Janurary and even beyond 2025, Russia has already placed all its energy on the war budget and recruitment. TZD is the only victory for the West.
>>492084443Nah it was only the /chug/ crowd who beat the "Trump will save Russia" drum.What I look forward to were the crowd who were anti-Ukraine just because it was supported by [current administration] do a 180 when Trump keeps the aid flowing
>>492082336>imperialist scum>Anti-catholic maggot>Tzar bootlicker>Depraved gamblerHe is more significant after all he encompass the eurasian spirit of the orc whilst failing to see himself as one.
>>492084806>Anti-CatholicYou still believe in the church of Rome?
>>492084636>REEEEEESTOP! I RECALLED EVEN MORE! LESYA UKRAINKA!!!! THE WORLD FAMOUS WRITER!!! THE RESHAPER OR THE ENTIRE EUROPEAN CULTURE!!!! FUCK! THE UKRAINE IS SO GREAT AND SOOOO MUCH EUROPEAN!!! THE MOST EUROPEAN NATION IN THE WORLD!!!!
>>492083937>No, that does apply because it's easily observable.You say that while staring at the body exchange rates, DC telling Ukraine to conscript teenagers, and hundreds of vids of Ukrainians getting vanned. >I don't knowZero. It's laughable to claim that Ukraine has "some" air support in the face of what Russia's doing. Ukraine's air force has been limited to air defense and strategic missile strikes for years now. >that FABs are wunderwaffens that kill hundreds per strike.Strawman. They don't have to kill hundreds per strike because Russia is dropping hundreds per month. >Russia had a huge advantage at the beginning of the war It's the opposite. The beginning of the war was when guided munitions from the West were at their most potent, before Russia effectively deployed countermeasures. That was also when the West had reserves of shells to shill out, which has since dried up while Russia's production got truly humming and the Norks delivered millions at a time. >It's 700k casualties, not dead.Tell that to most of the thread. That's still a massive claim which doesn't match up to Russia's current military size. >And we're talking about an active frontline about 600 miles long.Which has mostly consisted of Russia shelling and bombing since the end of maneuvering during the opening two months. >Russians have been pushing Ukrainians so obviously Ukrainians aren't going to be the ones recovering most Russian bodies.If you're going to justify the 700k casualty number, then there need to be a LOT of meat assaults where the Russians get utterly btfo'd and don't have control of the battlefield after. >That's 1/3 of the bodies in DonetskAnd 15% overall, and this is for a single exchange. I doubt you can find Bakhmut numbers among the recent body exchanges, but the rates are still lopsided. >every single source that isn't explicitly pro RussianSo if you ignore other sources, they're all in agreement.
>>492084864ofk as it allowed to merry his bf
>>492084416The US began ww2 with an armed forces numbering fewer than 200k but would end it with dead and wounded numbering over a million. Its almost like once the Russians knew the SMO wasnt a fait-accompli they scrambled to throw bodies into the grinder.
>>492084864>On the day on which the Russian and Greek Churches formally break with one another the whole world will see that the Ecumenical Eastern Church is a mere fiction and that there exists in the East nothing but isolated national ChurchesIf God cared about Orthodoxy he would have not given you to the muslims in the feast of Pentecosts, or sent, Our Lady to warn us of your evil
>>492074292Only if you offer your heart to the tzar monke.
>>492084763going against your geopolitical interests just because the government you didn't vote for supports it is so fucking retardedbut then again this is /pol/
>>492084416700k casualties over 3 years. most wars have a 1:3 killed to wounded ratio so if we apply that to this war russia would have taken 175k killed and 500k wounded. do you not understand troops are rotated and replaced or are you deliberately being dishonest?
>>492084907Your language was invented by a literal nigger
>>492085037why then zelensky claims that russia has 200k dead and 400k wounded? is he a kgb agent? along with maryana bezuhla who says that afu is using meatwave tactics?
>>492085131Culture war bullshit really has eroded the west, ironically a rot that traces its origins to communist infiltration/subversion of western institutions.
>>492085178then it is even worse for you as ukr lang is a descendant of ru lang
>>492083711Russia prefer to not get corpses back. A lot of money to paid out to family of every KIA, better to declare them missing forever.
>>492085093Eh, his heartbeat is a little slow but not irregular or anything. He will be fine, I've seen worse.
>>492085131>>492085286The West has been infiltrated even before the 80s by the KGB and its children keep on pushing pro-eurasian, pro-communist and pro-chinese propaganda.
rara rusputin get fucked, TZD
>>492085222What are you even babbling about.
>>492085396now I have that song stuck in my head, thanks
>>492085085Meanwhile in reality: Francis is blessing faggot "marriage", telling the world the importance of importing the third world and setting up sandnigger Jesus manger in the Vatican
>>492084416You're still struggling with basic reading comprehension, aren't you? I said more UKRAINIAN bodies are available for exchange because Ukraine wants their fallen soldiers back. Russia leaves its mobiks to rot. It's not about collecting fewer Russian bodies, it's about having more UKRAINIAN bodies to trade, you fucking idiot.And who said anything about rank being the only factor? Maybe they prioritize getting back certain units, or maybe they have intelligence about specific individuals. You think they just flip a coin to decide which bodies to trade?And what's your fucking point about Goreleaf? Posting pictures of dead Russians is not the same as discussing the strategic implications of body exchanges. You're the one who's obsessed with the fucking body count like it's some kind of scorecard.You're so desperate to prove that Russia is 'winning' that you're ignoring all the other factors at play.
>>492084763>"Trump will save Russia" drum.According to who? It's Ukraine that's reliant on US policy, and we even saw Zelensky pivot away from Biden recently in preparation. It's even funnier when looking at pro-Ukrainians on reddit, who are now betting on Trump forcing a ceasefire to save Ukraine. >>492085037They ended the war with 16,000,000,000. There was an obvious conscription effort throughout the war that got them to this number. By comparison, Russia had a single 300k mobilization wave. I'm sure this thread wants to claim that there's been a secret mobilization of hundreds of thousands that not a single cellphone has caught yet, but all reasonable sources acknowledge this one wave. The 700k number doesn't add up with that math. >>492085133I know how casualties work, and it doesn't change what I said. Those injured aren't "I got a scratch and need to sit one out," that's "artillery shrapnel shredded my leg." The vast majority are not going to be accounted in the military force going forward, and yet Russia has still grown its military overall and is advancing in spite of apparently losing half of its prewar strength.
>>492085547>Faggots mentionedEvery. Single. Time.
>>492084416
>>492085589>russia has grown its military overallwhy do you think that is? could it be they are desperate for more soldiers? wonder why that would be.
>>492085618>It's gay to mention the fact that Francis has ok'd blessing gay marriages- The least delusional Papist
>>492085425>ukr shills say russia lost 700k dead>zelensky says russia lost 200k deadi just cant understand who is kgb agent here
>>492077245Horse chestnuts?
>>492085769see>>492085133casualty doesn't mean killed retard.
>>492085753>God wishes to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart. If what I say to you is done, many souls will be saved and there will be peace. The [First World] war is going to end; if people do not cease offending God, a worse one will break out during the pontificate of Pius XI. When you see a night illumined by an unknown light, know that this is the great sign given you by God that He is about to punish the world for its crimes, by means of war, famine, and persecutions of the Church and of the Holy Father. To prevent this, I shall come to ask for the consecration of Russia to my Immaculate Heart, and the communion of reparation on the first Saturdays. If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace. If not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church. The good will be martyred, the Holy Father will have much to suffer, various nations will be annihilated. In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me, and she will be converted, and a period of peace will be granted to the worldVPN Pidor you are an error from the day you were born
>>492084416>their army has GROWN in that same timeframe, despite eating a 700k lossthat is easily explained. how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning? once you are able to answer that question of the ages you will be prepared to answer the "if man dead, why man still there?" quandary you find yourself in.
BAVOVNIKI GANG
>>492085309>ukr lang is a descendant of ru langThen you won't need a poizzian voiceover in stalker
>>492085554>I said more UKRAINIAN bodies are available for exchange because Ukraine wants their fallen soldiers backDo you understand how exchanges work as a basic concept? You need Russian bodies to trade. Ukrainians are incentivized to collect Russian bodies when they need those bodies to trade for Ukrainian bodies. Russia "leaving its mobiks to rot" has zero consequence to Ukrainian desires even if it was true. If anything, Russia not collecting its own dead would make it even easier for Ukraine to collect more Russian dead. Your logic is incomprehensible. Is your overall claim that Russia just isn't requesting that more Russian bodies be returned because they just don't care? They're conducting these exchanges for the fun of it?>And who said anything about rank being the only factor?You, when you implicitly claimed that a specops corpse could be traded for more conscript corpses like this was a trading card game. Bodies are bodies, and families want them back. They aren't fucking haggling over the value of individual ones. Sheer numbers is the only metric. >Posting pictures of dead Russians is not the same as discussing the strategic implications of body exchangesI genuinely laughed out loud at this. You're right, spamming corpses isn't the same as discussing the implications of lopsided body exchanges. One is jacking off over the dead, and the other is actually discussing the war. That's such a perfect microcosm of what's wrong with these threads.
>>492085589>16,000,000,00016 billion US troops? Pretty wild
>>492085589>By comparison, Russia had a single 300k mobilization wave. Again ignoring the soldiers purloined from other branches as well as the fact that many were not drafted but are contract soldiers.
>>492086001>OwO>is that an ammo depot I see?
>>492086050>you won't need a poizzian voiceoveryes, i have eng
>>492084935>You say that while staring at the body exchange ratesI have already explained why body exchange rates is a retarded metric for total casualties when 1 force is pushing the other back. By that logic the USSR took less casualties than the Germans in 1945.>Zero. It's laughable to claim that Ukraine has "some" air support in the face of what Russia's doingIt's not laughable, they do have an airforce that does strikes, they don't have "zero" like you said. >Strawman.It's not a strawman when you've been acting like that this entire thread. There are no statistics on how many casualties 1 FAB causes. >It's the opposite. The beginning of the war was when guided munitions from the West were at their most potent, before Russia effectively deployed countermeasures. That was also when the West had reserves of shells to shill out, which has since dried up while Russia's production got truly humming and the Norks delivered millions at a time.You have no idea what you are talking about. >Tell that to most of the thread. That's still a massive claim which doesn't match up to Russia's current military size.Why would it have to match their current size?>Which has mostly consisted of Russia shelling and bombing since the end of maneuvering during the opening two months.No, its been Russians assaulting for nearly 3 years now.>If you're going to justify the 700k casualty number, then there need to be a LOT of meat assaults where the Russians get utterly btfo'd and don't have control of the battlefield after.Have you not been watching the war at all?>And 15% overall, and this is for a single exchange. I doubt you can find Bakhmut numbers among the recent body exchanges, but the rates are still lopsided.It was an exchange from 2 months ago, how is that not recent enough? >So if you ignore other sources, they're all in agreement.If you ignore blatant Kremlin sources, yes they are.
>>492085769See >>492085877Learn 2 english, pidor
>>492074222>hungar supporting ukraine
>>492084566Russians took far more casualties taking Bakhmut
>>492086357Wagner lost 25k alone
>>492086324many such cases
today's zigger suicide"grenade to the neck" this time
>>492086276This obsession with the FAB I just dont get; its a ww2-tier dumb-bomb glide kit technically inferior to a fritz-X lobbed from maximum range because Russians cant do SEAD and suffer a lack of actual PGMs.
>>492086225>yes, i have engBased. Now read another book and maybe there is some hope for you
>>492085720>why do you think that is? Logically, by them taking in more men than they're losing. That'd be impossible if they lost 700k men over the last three years, since the math wouldn't add up with their prewar army size and recruitment intake since then. And yeah, a nation at war wants more soldiers. >>492085975They raised the age range for the annual one-year conscription from 18-27 to 18-30. As seen in picrelated, it caused a small bump from previous conscription waves but wouldn't account for those 700k and especially not for a total size increase in spite of 700k losses. >>492086097Mormons, you know. >>492086161>Again ignoring the soldiers purloined from other branchesWe've been talking about the total military size, not just the army. >as well as the fact that many were not drafted but are contract soldiers.Many? The only one that comes to mind is Wagner.
>>492086297>>492085877the whole thread was implying this >>492079923and proving the same pov arguing PIF6ELHC before that post >>492083937were forced to change the numbers after they stopped to correspond whoops
>>492083630I'm fairly certain this is not only the contact for an ex-military blogger called Willy, but he's the same one in that gay faggot little propaganda video of the Aussie screaming out "I'm gonna skin you cunt" in Kursk.
>>492086630sorry i am not gonna read taras shevchenko or what else you mean by "another"
>>492086165no, that was just drone successfully intercepted by air defense, and wreckage only hit a shed and started a small fire which was quickly extinguished and there were no injuries reported
>>492081400
>>492077913That’s what makes me hate globo most, them trying to hove in and use all the good work I’ve done getting people to see them.>not glonohomoThe kremling and RasPutinberg are more globo’ed than the west is. Russia has totally and completely fallen to globo where as in the west they have to subvert society they cannot simply put their boot on it’s face. >but you did nothing to stop us from 2023 when we sneaked in and pretended that we were you and subverted the minds of boomers with computers telling them that the putin kepto oligarchy were based “white hats”.*little hats. Literally black little hats.I was exhausted by the covid hoax and vax poisoning, calling it all out. The scam-war was mostly fake news for 6 to 9 months. And it’s not my job nobody pays me for being clever (well not in regard to what was called “conspiracy theory” spreading, I am one of the highest ranked quizers in the UK so technically i do get paid for being clever).Putin, Zelensky, the other jews, all the western politician pedo rings - they are all in on the war scam, war is the biggest scam of all and this particular rendition of it is particularly scammy and completely globo orientated. Putin is a klaus understudy and his job is screwing Russia and Russians for all they have. Shills for Russia don’t exist, they get 15 years in the gulag for criticising putin & co. Shills for Putin are turbo woke traitors if they are Russian by birth.
>>492086518Luckily his body will be packed into a meat cube so his death won't count
>>492080950do you think ukrainians walk out of their trenches, go to the LOC and collect russian bodies? i know ziggers arent smart but come on
>>492086526I mean it worksWe'd need a very long range AA to counter it, we tried roaming patriot battery last spring and it got blown up by ballisticsAnd Boden's refusal to let us bomb pidor airfields for 3 years didn't help. Now they are building fucking concrete hangars for the jets
>>492085942Didn't read, Frankie blesses fag marriage.
>>492086650>Some guy on a mongolian basket weaving forum quoting a notorious twitter gasbagYou faggots really do just take any source and run with it dont you
>>492086844>they cannot simply put their boot on it’s facebut it is exactly what "(((they)))" did
>>492086731Anything is better than dogshit tolstoyevsky spergery pidorbro
>>492086518how the fuck are their families supposed get 8 billion rubbles($3.50) if mobiks corpse doesn't even have a head?!
>>492081024GO FIGHT.
>>492086648so is russia begging for north korean soldiers because they're super best friends and not because they have taken catastrophic losses?
>>492086946that's a very stupid mobik, should have shot himself in the heart like this smart one
>>492079224>>492080119They is no mention of russian body count, why lie
>>492086918yeah i was talking exaclty about local shiils yellng about 700k dead
>>492086648>and especially not for a total size increaseyes, you did eat breakfast. but how would you feel if you DIDN'T eat breakfast?
>>492087073Asians are serial liars and Russians are serial liars. Being that Russia is a Eurasian nation, that makes their people pathological liars.
>>492086943i understand, this is too difficult for you, read taras further
>>492087073Because he's a disingenuous shill
>>492086276>I have already explainedYou haven't. >By that logic the USSR took less casualties than the Germans in 1945.Kek, Germany was losing swathes of ground by the day in 1945. Meanwhile, the argument that Russia's lost half its entire military relies on the idea that they've been meatwaving Ukrainian positions with little to no success for years. 700k lost but only 50-60 bodies collected every two or three months.>they do have an airforceWhich is limited to air defense or launching strategic missiles into Russia, not battlefield support inflicting manpower drain. We're talking about 600 bombs a month vs zero. >It's not a strawmanIt is. I've never mentioned my estimates for how many Ukrainians are lost in each strike, because pointing to the eye-watering 600 a month is more than enough. That is a massive disparity in fire support between the two sides. >You have no idea what you are talking about.Kek, not an argument. Western supplies of shells to Ukraine have slowed dramatically from 2022 and early 2023, and guided munition hit rates are way down. >Why would it have to match their current size?Unless NATO officials are lying out of their ass about Russia's military growing, you have to square an increase in that military's total size with them losing half of their prewar personnel over the same period. >No, its been Russians assaulting for nearly 3 years now.Again with the meatwaves claim, but still so few bodies. >Have you not been watching the war at all?If you've been stuck in a bubble, then I can see why we're having this discussion. >It was an exchange from 2 months ago, how is that not recent enough?I'm not disputing that one exchange, but I am pointing out that even this single one only had 15% that could be excused and there have been several since. >If you ignore blatant Kremlin sources,Don't venture too far out of the bubble, my friend.
>>492086903>I mean it worksDoes it, though? Its the equivalent of all those cope posts of "tank is fine" when images of T-64s on flatcars headed to Ukraine started getting circulated. Just considering the wear and tear on an airframe, the fuel, maintenance man hours and eventual platform replacement costs because no artillery or PGM can be spared for the mission.Sad about Patriot but compared to the performance of S-300/400 batteries it still has a pretty good track record in the field.
>>492087120>yeahkekaroo
>>492086464Not that many
>>492087207>difficultNah, it's just exotic doomshlock for feeble minded westoids. I have an immunity
>>492087413>700k dead ziggers ukr media says
>>492087378>Does it, though?they wouldn't lob hundred a day if it did jack shitsure the accuracy is far from western glide bombs but does it matter that much for a 500kg bomb? especially for terrorizing civilians
>>492087540>exotic doomshlock>I have an immunitysure, because you live in doomshock state
>>492074292TOTAL ZIGGERDEATH
>>492087207>tolstoevsky>difficultkeknice self own, faggotalso "being difficult" also means being annoying retard. hmmm....
>>492087578700k dead and wounded, faggot. Kremlin gremlin has confirmed those estimations before
>>492087378T-62s.T-64BVs are actually kinda decent.
>>492087578>ukr media saysI thought zelensky said 200k dead ziggers? honestly do you not know what casualty means?
>>492086883I'm not surprised by these numbers are provided by people with zero sense of scale. You're talking about 700,000 losses that needed to be generated from countless meat assaults. Yeah, there should be way more than 50 bodies collected over a months-long period even if Ukraine wasn't able to collect in the vast majority of attacks. >>492087073The Russian MoD reports the same number of Ukrainian bodies along with the Russian bodies exchanged. >muh MoDUkraine would have every reason to call them out if they were lying, and Ukraine's lack of reporting on Russian bodies is indicative in itself. >>492087155>no response but still trying to act smugKek. If I didn't eat breakfast, then I'd be a bit cranky while mocking you right now.
>>492074482I CAN MORE
Question: Shills keep pretending to be retarded here all the time. Do you think that they have some psychological damage from it, or are they just simple NPCs with no dialogue?
>>492087378>Does it, though? Fucking kek. I really do wish that you anons were the ones in the trenches and not some poor fuck who got picked off the streets of Kiev last month.
>>492087702no, that just means that you are too narrow minded dumbshit to literally understand words there
>>492087719>T-64BVs are actually kinda decentliterally the same shit as t-72 and etc
>>492087807they're npc's
>>492087761>The Russian MoD reports the same number of Ukrainian bodies along with the Russian bodies exchanged.source?>Ukraine's lack of reporting on Russian bodies is indicative in itself.It's part of their agreements, russia has not posted body exchange counts even in past exchanges
>>492086088You're still having trouble with reading comprehension, aren't you? I'll say it again, slowly, so your tiny brain can understand: Ukraine wants its OWN soldiers back. That means more UKRAINIAN bodies are available for exchange. It's not about how many Russian bodies they collect, it's about how many UKRAINIAN bodies are on the table, you fucking moron.And your 'trading card game' analogy is fucking retarded. You think they're just swapping bodies like Pokemon cards? Maybe, just maybe, certain individuals or units hold more value for each side. Maybe a dead special forces guy is worth more to Ukraine than a dead mobik is to Russia. It's not about 'haggling,' it's about priorities, you dense fuck.And spare me the crocodile tears about 'jacking off over the dead.' You're the one who's obsessed with body counts like it's some kind of fucking sport. Goreleaf posting pictures is one thing, but you're the one treating dead soldiers like statistics in your twisted game of 'who's winning.'You're so desperate to push your narrative that you're ignoring all the other factors that influence these exchanges. You're a fucking broken record, repeating the same bullshit over and over again. Newsflash, retard: war is complicated. Body exchanges are complicated. Your simplistic view of the world is an insult to everyone who's actually fighting and dying in this war.Now go back to your hole and keep counting corpses, you fucking ghoul. Maybe you can get a high score and finally feel good about yourself.
>>492087679>sure, because you live in doomshock statePot calling kettle a nigger. But at least my nation isn't built on gay rape
>>492082486Name 1 (one) Ukrainian writer more famous than him
>>492087807Being russhit is to live with shit flowing into your ears. It's their nature
>>492087337>You haven't.I did.>Kek, Germany was losing swathes of ground by the day in 1945. Meanwhile, the argument that Russia's lost half its entire military relies on the idea that they've been meatwaving Ukrainian positions with little to no success for years. 700k lost but only 50-60 bodies collected every two or three months.Congrats, you completely missed my point entirely. >Which is limited to air defense or launching strategic missiles into Russia, not battlefield support inflicting manpower drain. We're talking about 600 bombs a month vs zero.It is far more than zero.>It is. I've never mentioned my estimates for how many Ukrainians are lost in each strike, because pointing to the eye-watering 600 a month is more than enough. That is a massive disparity in fire support between the two sides.You're literally hyping them up again with zero evidence of their effectiveness. >Kek, not an argumentI don't need one when you're this blatantly wrong. >Unless NATO officials are lying out of their ass about Russia's military growingRussia can take losses and still grow.>Again with the meatwaves claim, but still so few bodies.I said they've been assaulting for 3 years, you said meatwaves. >If you've been stuck in a bubble, then I can see why we're having this discussion.You have already proved that you have no idea what you are talking about.>I'm not disputing that one exchange, but I am pointing out that even this single one only had 15% that could be excused and there have been several since.You keep ignoring the fact that it was 1/3 of the bodies in the most active war zone with little fighting for nearly 2 years now. >Don't venture too far out of the bubble, my friend.Honestly I hope you're just 14 years old or something because you don't seem to have a fully formed brain. You're putting in way too much effort here to just be blatantly wrong.
>>492088053orwell
>>492088000>4k usd gpd per capita>b-but gays...as always an ukie is unable not to think about gay rapes for 5 min
>>492088053>Name 1 (one) Ukrainian writer more famous than himHe got famous by courtesy of american kikes. Makes one's noggin joggin
>>492088138>as always an ukie is unable not to think about gay rapes for 5 minI believe he's just trying to speak to you in terms you'd understand
>>492087857>hurr durrlol lmao
>>492083711I can’t post another bait because this is absurdly ridiculous and I’ve chuckled. I tip my hat to you fine chap
>>492087807NPCs. it's why they are called russian bots, after all.
>>492084636Demolish his memorial in Odessa first
>>492087663>they wouldn't lob hundred a day if it did jack shitBy that logic western armies should be scrambling to replace their tanks and IFVs with chink scooters and golf carts; they use it as a nigger-rigged solution in the absence of more accurate or cheaper solutions a more capable military wouldve husbanded up until this point in the war>>492087830Show me numbers beyond an uncited 600 sorties per month figure actually pointing to its effectiveness. A well-drilled morter detachment is probably statistically more of a hazard to Ukrainians in the trenches
>>492087939>source?Sure, it's on TASS somewhere but here's one: https://www.rbc.ru/politics/20/12/2024/676556b49a7947effb50cf0f>It's part of their agreements, I don't see why they'd agree to that, and they have been so Ukraine should protest if it's a violation. >>492087951> Ukraine wants its OWN soldiers back. So your argument really is that Ukraine is simply asking for more of its soldiers back and Russia doesn't care to ask for more of its own back. That is monumentally idiotic. >It's not about 'haggling,' it's about prioritiesYou just described them affording more value to some bodies over others in that sentence. >You're the one who's obsessed with body counts like it's some kind of fucking sportWhat?> but you're the one treating dead soldiers like statistics in your twisted game of 'who's winning.'Yeah, dead bodies are statistics. They give an idea of casualty rates and thus how the war's going. The fact that you're getting offended over this but not random gore pictures is hilarious.
>>492087807If they weren't retarded then they wouldn't be shilling for Russia to begin with
>>492088217>JEEEEEEEEWS REEEEEE>lol lmaoread the post you replied again
>>492085589>forcing a ceasefire to save Ukraine.a ceasefire only benefits Russia. That's why Orbán is burning all its little remaining credibility in Europe to get one
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>>492088364>OdessaIt's Novyi Ternopil, champ
>>492087924right. and T-62s are a generation older than them. basically a T-55 with a bigger gun. they use those too, btw.
>>492085554>Russia leaves its mobiks to rot but Ukraine DOESN’T pick up the bodies to make exchanges more efficient for their fallen??????
>>492088297>european soilKEKAROO
>>492086943Actual midwit take. Interesting
>>492088174Akin to Ukraine itself in a sense. Spiritual ties
>>492088110>Congrats, you completely missed my point entirely.Congrats, you failed to offer a rebuttal, so my point stands. You compared a combatant which was losing the battlefield constantly to a combatant that's retained the battlefield for years. >It is far more than zero.Where? When was the last time we saw bombs dropped on Russian positions?>with zero evidence of their effectiveness.Every Ukrainian source you can find on them will call them a massive problem. This is serious cope. >I don't need one when you're this blatantly wrong.Lol>Russia can take losses and still grow.They can take 700k losses and still grow, when that would constitute half of their peacetime force? And when they only mobilized 300k?>I said they've been assaulting for 3 years, you said meatwaves.Ah, we're close to an important understanding...>that it was 1/3 of the bodiesYou keep trying to obfuscate here. They were 15% of the total exchange, and that was just one exchange of the six or seven I listed earlier with lopsided ratios.
>>492087924>>492087719Isnt the T-72 a simplified, cheaper version of the T-64 -I always lose track of which iteration of the T-series is a spawn of which predecessor, like the T-80 is an updated T-64 with a gas turbine and the T-90 is a modernized T-72(?)
>>492074200Nigger
>>492088550he has stong ressentiment as he was forced to read it in school
>>492088458>too cucked to touch a bix nood obeliskYeah
>>492087924>t. Uralvagonzavod chief designer butthurt how Kharkhiv Locomotive made unknown technology blyat
>>492088667So are you actually 14 or just a looping bot?
>>492088424>read the postlol nope kek lol
>>492088634>Akin to Ukraine itself in a sense. Spiritual tiesYep, (((Woddy Allen))) was bitching about ebil ukrainian cossacks raping his grandma for example
>>492088399>uncitedI apologize, I've made a serious mistake. I know I read the 600 number somewhere, but trying to find a quick article about them has revealed that the number of monthly hits was 3,000 in March of this year. That's quite the mortar platoon. Maybe this was an outlier, though, and it's usually "just" 600.
>>492088400>state propaganda site reporting straight from the MoD>"Russian President Vladimir Putin said back in the summer that the irreparable losses of Russia and Ukraine are approximately one to five. According to him, the Ukrainian Armed Forces lose 50,000 people killed and wounded per month, a ratio of approximately 50 to 50. At the same time, he reported that 1,348 Russian soldiers and officers are in captivity in Ukraine, and 6,465 Ukrainians in Russia."How can you even think this source is even credible?
>>492088693He’s just a brainlet with lukewarm “lole le pseudointrinsic stenography” takes with midwit preferences and no taste in literature
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>>492088795Are you usually this bad at an argument? You went from smug to "muh bot" quite quickly.
ok I'll bake one
>>492088838I’d aim for (((Burisma)))’s big bro financing THD and Anti-Defamation League rooting for Azog
>>492088672T-72 is Uralvagonzavod's attempt to make a T-64 equivalent. they don't share any dna. some ukeanon made this helpful chart that sort of explains it.
>>492088879>reporting straight from the MoDYeah, I said that the MoD reported it and you asked for a source. If they're lying, then why are the Ukrainians quiet about it? Why aren't they reporting the number of Russian bodies themselves. Perhaps they recognize the unfortunate implications of doing so.
get in>>492089016>>492089016>>492089016
>>492088905>Are you usually this bad at an argument?You spent 20+ posts defending a retarded argument and got btfo by literally everyone here.
>>492088672t-72 has better and easier transmission more powerful and repairable and circle automatic loader which is also simpler, so yeah it is cheaper bigger and has more powerful gun and armour>T-80 is an updated T-64 it is somrthing between t-72 and t-64>T-90 is a modernized T-72yesthe only difference is t-64 has been produced in kharkov and t-72 in ural (and t-72 demolish is often more spectacular than t-64 because of circle loader and the turret ripping off)
>>492089074You literally said "I don't need an argument when you're this blatantly wrong." Notice how your fellow tards gradually stopped replying as well.
>>492089044>Why aren't they reporting the number of Russian bodies themselves. Perhaps they recognize the unfortunate implications of doing so.because neither size ever reports the other sides body count, you only get these articles that speculate off official reports from both sides
>>492088839So can we take Zel's quoted numbers at face value for FAB strikes but not the Ukr MoD figures for Russian Casualties? And how do terror strikes on civilia housing equate to battlefield casualties? Asking for a friend
>>492089024>>492089096Ill try to remeber these.Why cant the Russians just streamline shit and call everything the 'M1'
>>492089511they do it as they call everything as T-72, T-72A/B/M, T-72BM3 and so onM1A1/2/3 are the same tanks after all
>>492089668>M1A1/2/3 are the same tanks after all
