Previous: >>517323061Day 1,312 – Daily assessment: https://understandingwar.org/analysis/russia-ukraine/#research▶Latest>Hungarian drones violated Ukrainian airspace - Zelenskyy said. "Preliminary, they could have been conducting reconnaissance of industrial potential in Ukrainian border areas.">Afipsky refinery droned again.>1x Su-34 shot down, 2x An-26 cargo planes droned. Ziggers roping.>Russia forecasts reduction of natural gas export in 2025 by over 10%>Budget deficit of Russia for 2025 will increase by another 1.94 trillion rubles. And amount to 5.74 trillion, or 2.6% of GDP.>The number of available vacancies for people with disabilities in Russia has risen by 300 000 in 2025>Trump called Russia a “paper tiger” with a collapsing economy and allowed the military victory of Ukraine>Trump: NATO countries should shoot down russian planes if they enter their airspace>Trump: I think Orbán will stop buying russian oil if I speak to him. I will speak to him.>Trump: Everyone thought russia would win that war in three days. It was supposed to be a quick little skirmish. It did not turn out that way. It is making russia look bad>2 Be-12s (submarine detection planes) and another helicopter destroyed in Crimea>Polish commie zigger Jerzy Tyts killed in battle against Ukrainian forces>drone attacks on Crimea destroys x3 helicopters and one radar>Weekly exports of oil from russia collapsed by 22.7%>Ukraine liberates Mayak>Ukraine liberates Pankivka>putin admits there is a gas shortage▶Telegramhttps://rentry.org/telosint2023https://t.me/ukr_pics▶Intelhttps://t.me/DeepStateENhttps://odin.tradoc.army.mil/WEG (equipment explorer)https://ukr.warspotting.net (visually confirmed losses)▶Mapshttps://deepstatemap.live/enhttps://liveuamap.com/en▶DISPOSABLE SOLDIER (diary of a RU mobik)TOUR 1: files.catbox.moe/34fuhc.txtTOUR 2: files.catbox.moe/uj2wut.txtTOUR 3: files.catbox.moe/hmyd98.txtTOUR 4: files.catbox.moe/cdenxe.txt
If only you knew how brown things really are
>>517345937total ryssä death
>>517344729>>517326281Bit of anecdotal story and more of an intellectual take + random rant.This would have taken place somewhere before or after 2014 but not by too much:I was discussing this with an online friend who emmigrated from the USSR at a very young age (under 12 or so, he got out just as the USSR fell) but there was some Russian video (may have been from Zvezda) where a Russian general takes a shit on miniguns and rotary barrel weapons, especially in helicopter applications. We both thought it was a retarded take given the niche application of miniguns (lots of bullets placed down in a direction) because the general gave a whole rant about how with a dozen marksmen armed with SVDs, he could achieve the same effect and "waste less ammo."It hit us both at that point as to how immensely retarded the Soviet mentality was. The entire point of door mounted miniguns isn't to take out targets necessarily but to provide immense suppressive effects to allow for helicopters to approach and clear LZs. The tradeoff of ammo is effectively jack shit cost wise compared to the occupants and the vehicle. Meanwhile the fat fuck they had on that program basically gave a huge anti-minigun rant and could not understand the concept of firepower flux. Of course, the same guy said some shit about how Americans were risk adverse pussies who needed their toys and whatnot because of course a single life is somehow cheaper than a few hundred rounds of ammo. Like a single human being in a factory can't fucking produce thousands upon thousands of rounds every day or something.>>517345886>Nightmare fuelI think they were partially enabled by the "AI hype" and also the fuckery that happened under the coof. A lot of academic fuckery became unchallenged under the coof, like how professors outright went to pure online learning and just aired videos of their lectures while refusing to take (emailed/messaged) questions.
no cars for pidors
>>517345403>Death of creativityI think the creativity is there still, just the per capita rates are atrocious. Younger minds have better access to widely accessible CAD software and the ones driven enough will learn FEA from videos online rather than being gated through private classes or subsidized academic options (what I went through personally). I believe it to be true in more media orientated (video editing for example) tools but the overall shift is that the percentage rates of creatives has gone down for the pseudo-intellectual equivalent of a "creative." There are still woodworkers, engineers and so on, just a wider component of society has become more infantalized consumers.In a way it hurts a bit as an semi-early 3D printer owner in seeing how "slop-ian" (hate the word) the hobby has become but I can recognize that a lot of creatives are enabled in how they can make things that they would not have been able to do so without the higher skillset. Just there's a lot more "slop" objects printed out without any particular purpose or utility.
>>517346142Do you even want it back at this point
>>517346404what the hell is a recycling fee?
>>517346506It will be fine after we send non-finnougrics out.
>>517346563A "not-a-tax" tax which people have to pay when buying a car. The official cover is "hurr-durr after some years the car will get discarded and somebody has to dispose of it, that's not free work, so we'll collect the money for future recycling now ahead of time", which is obvious bullshit since nobody recycles crap or gets paid to do so IRL.
>>517346506Territory, not the rusniggers living there.
>>517345937WAR IS HELL
>>517346619I don't have tiktok installed, but have seen how people degenerate into sitting there for hours swiping videos. Also a couple friends demonstrated it to me, basically they start swiping and videos are trending normie shit and then after 10-20 videos the propaganda starts being fed in.
Render ziggers cubic
>>517346799russians blood poisons the soil it is spilled on
65°21'35.6"N 73°25'17.2"E
>>517345937President Tromp, please give His Excellency Volodomyr Zelenskyy 1000 tomahawk cruise missiles to bomb Donbas children
>>517346946a modern russian freeway intersectionwhat about it?
>>517346653>I do believe the elitism was double edgedTo an extent. It is needed to curate some place to discuss things seriously without people wasting your time. It is also harmful because it creates fertile grounds for evil people doing evil things.>Also the massive co-opting of academia by left wing (and especially massive Soviet simps) in the past didn't help along with the continued overtaking of it.Pretty sure at least 70% of that was a KGB special operation.>>517346772>I think you are a bit shielded in a way to modernality for your social circle and perhaps local exposure?Absolutely. It's self-shielding, even. I try to do good without approaching evils to great for me alone to overcome.
>>517346915>russians blood fertilizes the soil it is spilled onfixed that for you
>>517346773so they are paying $26k in extra not-taxes just to own a shitbox hyundai? lol.
>>517346012>lore dumpSome of the insane shit that happened under the Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution seem to be unbelievable to a lot of zoomers. I cite literal examples of barbarism done to people and they still don't believe that kind of cruelty could happen. Meanwhile in the same group some of them read The Three Body problem and fucking fall hook line and sinker to that while going "the writing is a bit weird, people can behave this way?" without realizing they're looking at how Chinese society works with the whole spontaneous lynch mobs that happened under Mao.It is a bit maddening and even worse when they're left leaning politically and think that under their idealized form of society that surely utopianesque or fractional utopianesque visions can be implemented. Then I find out they're avid social media users and TikTok is part of their media diet.>When I don't want to get started about how I've heard the line:>"Yeah the USSR was evil and all but it gets criticized for the wrong things."I don't personally feel confident enough to speak about the USSR but I can feel the effects of agitprop being applied to the younger generations for simply having dipped their toe a little leftwards politically.>>517347071>The Noam Chomsky crowd twisting into pretzels in 2022 as they make increasingly unironic tankie arguments before going beyond memesheimer.Whatever was left of that KGB op they had all those fuckers on call ready to work in an unified front.
>>517346165>and could not understand the concept of firepower flux.LOL no. He did understand it.> Of course, the same guy said some shit about how Americans were risk adverse pussies who needed their toys and whatnot because of course a single life is somehow cheaper than a few hundred rounds of ammo.And that's the real reason.>Like a single human being in a factory can't fucking produce thousands upon thousands of rounds every day or something.A human can. They can produce lots of something that sort of looks like ammo (or any other product) and very rarely actually works as intended. Welcome to USSR.
>>517347181everything more than 160 hp shitbox is getting raped by new taxes increasing by 10,000%
>>517346404i'm sure that the reason the russians are fighting so hard is because they know that the us is going to take over the world. i mean, it's not like they're fighting to defend their land or anything
>>517346457>There are still woodworkers, engineers and so onThis is actually good news. So only the Internet frequenter part of US populace has stopped producing or maybe even publishing things.>hate the wordFind a new one that will catch on better, by all means. IMO it describes the thing perfectly: similar enough to the real thing at first glance, woefully underperforming in function.
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>>517347422They're not even fighting the US
>>517346904Can we extract energy from Orwell's rotating corpse somehow?
TOTAL 14:1 ZIGGER 14:1 DEATH 14:1
>>517346421>Peak USSRWhat I understand is that some people have really, really narrow minded nostalgic memories even if they could be the very same people who whined about how shit that part of their life was to you for a decade straight. Something about "the carefree days of being a child with your siblings, trying to find entertainment when there was jack shit (compared to whatever was available in the West at the time) by doing shit like poking little animals in the wild" seems to act like a cognitive blinder and cognitive dissonance jammer to their minds over how absolutely shit the rest of it was.Had to wait in long ass lines holding a ration ticket to buy meat and often couldn't buy it (apparently a common point between the USSR and Maoist China)? All forgiven over those little childhood memories."Food tasted better and was less tainted back then."Sure, sure it was but when you're fucking a skinny hungry thirdie in effect, everything tasted better. Even eating a fucking shit sandwich tastes amazing when you're starving. That alone is enough for some of those older types to justify mentally checking out when it comes to realizing how bad things were in the past.My friend who emmigrated from the USSR as a young child had their parent go full nostalgia somewhere in the 2010s because of that. I get to watch my mainlander family do the same, starting with them retiring and rotting their brains out watching Chinese state media on Youtube in effect. Just for clarity I am speakikng about the immigrant types to Western nations who get retarded nostalgiabrain for the past for some fucking weird reason while being the same types who cried about how shit it was a decade or two before early onset dementia hit them. Their parents tend to be far more realistic about how shitty things were and the ones younger than them don't have the funny nostalgia to recall because they often have a childhood in the 90s+ where they had bootleg consoles for toys and whatnot.
>>517347252>I cite literal examples of barbarism done to people and they still don't believe that kind of cruelty could happen.This is what happened in 2014 here. We simply couldn't believe it's real. Or 2008 in Georgia. Or before in Moldova, Ichkeria, also Georgia, also Ichkeria... Many, many other cases. I doubt many "couldn't believe" that it's really happening before the '90s but this disbelief and waiting for someone else to fix it because the very notion is absurd is doubtlessly not a new phenomenon.
>>517345937How is this any different than Anglo-Saxons killing Germans for Jewish money?
how is the pussia supposed to compete against evil hato biolabs?
Several weeks ago, Putin said there would be no increase in taxes in Russia.Today, the Russian government officially announced that the VAT will grow from 20 to 22% in Russia starting on January 1, 2026.This money will go towards war.Each Russian will pay more for any purchase.VAT is just a name. In reality, that's a military tax in Russia.https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1970913320807899617https://files.catbox.moe/q9bsk9.mp4
>>517346843The aggressive rejections and weird "LLMs know more than the sum of humanity/you're stupid compared to LLMs" + "[influencer they have parasocial relationship with] is a better source than you" makes it a bit hard which is why my patience and support dies out. That and how those types tend to jerk the other zoomers around to fall for that crap.>Learned helplessnessIt just bugs me that when I was a student I was made to cite examples, to which I guess I was a bit too ahead of the curve at the time for pulling online resources. I would have assumed the demographic that was less than a decade younger than me would have been made to do research. Somehow it never crossed their mind to do something like writing in "how to fix unbalanced washing machine error" or "why clothes turn pink in washer." Surely at some point they were made to write the same essays in English/history/etc classes and had to search for things.>Worse comes to worst, new ones can be madeThankfully communities still form outside of walled gardens but it seems forum hosting is harder these days than in the 00s. I how there were little small communities and how we used to look at personally posted things on >Geocities, >Angelfire, >50megs and so on for resource references/citations.
>>517347802>Something about "the carefree days of being a child with your siblings, trying to find entertainment when there was jack shiYeah, that's what the joke about "I like USSR because my back didn't hurt and my dick still worked (or, for women, because men still wanted her)" means. This selection bias literally explains it all as fully as you need it. This joke was somewhat widespread here for a time, not sure about now.>Had to wait in long ass lines holding a ration ticket to buy meat and often couldn't buy it (apparently a common point between the USSR and Maoist China)? All forgiven over those little childhood memories.Oh, man, that's a funny one. You don't just wait and maybe can't buy it. You NORMALLY can't buy it because the shop doesn't have it in stock, technically. You can still "procure" meat if you know the right people or ARE one of the right people. A butcher's daughter featured in jokes as well. Fuck, there were so many things wrong with commiestan related to food it's not even funny.>Just for clarity I am speakikng about the immigrant types to Western nations who get retarded nostalgiabrain for the past for some fucking weird reasonIt's understandable. Someone grows up, makes children and only then moves to another country. Frankly this should be prohibited because they will inevitably start aching for the place of their youth and likely land of their forefathers.>Their parents tend to be far more realistic about how shitty things wereI expect only because they actually lived through the worst and weren't shielded from it by their parents like is the case with their children you describe above. Had their youth and adulthood were similarly shielded from the worst - or if it wasn't actually that bad - they'd be nostalgic too. Humans aren't meant to uproot as adults.
>Russian Telegram channels report a fire at Afipsky oil refinery in Krasnodar region of Russia after a drone attack.This oil refinery has already been attacked several times.https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1971443067459891304>22hhttps://files.catbox.moe/wxzdwt.mp4
>>517345937stupid fucking kikes always trying to drag the world into war
NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte:The whole day yesterday, we had the Kremlin saying, "No, we are not a paper tiger. We are a bear." Well, you know, if you are a bear, you don't have to announce yourself to be a bear because everybody will notice. This shows a lot of weakness on the Russian side. And clearly, the president [Trump] hit a nerve here.(The video is from yesterday)https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1971463721567256918https://files.catbox.moe/b67r45.mp4
>>517347802>What I understand is that some people have really, really narrow minded nostalgic memories even if they could be the very same people who whined about how shit that part of their life was to you for a decade straight.Pretty much. Take into account that people's memories are generally not that reliable overall, most people don't realize just how shitty the average fuck is with his memory. Now add decades of life for the old shit to get whitewashed. Everything bad is slowly forgotten, everything good is kept and amplified. That happens naturally. Then add the alcohol into the mix. Yes, I know it's a meme, but people did historically drink way too much in USSR. And that doesn't make memory better. Now add the fact how information was controlled in USSR. People literally lived all their lives and if they weren't especially curious, they wouldn't know jack shit about what really happens around them. For example with crime, USSR was notorious for crime, but it wasn't really covered by the media, so most boomers remember "it was safe, kids could spend all day outside and nobody worried" crap, while guys like Chikatilo raped and killed kids by the dozen. Technological catastrophes? Planes falling out of the sky? Nah, never happened. People getting gunned down in the streets because they more affordable food? Nah, never happened *cough* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novocherkassk_massacre *cough*Outside of that a big element was just people being young and getting a tiny bit uplifted from shit. USSR was very fucked up in socio-economic development even at best times (the first factory making toilet paper opened in 1969 and had to be purchased from UK), so there would be millions who got thrown a bone for their backbreaking work and people felt happy because they didn't knew better.>"Food tasted better and was less tainted back then."Even during late USSR there were jokes that there are shortages of toilet paper, because most of it gets added to sausages.
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Deputy PM of the United Kingdom David Lammy:Our message to Ukraine is clear. We will stand with you today, tomorrow and 100 years from now. https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1971467321681248626https://files.catbox.moe/cfzjro.mp4
>>517348196Last fall, when submitting the state budget for 2025, the Russian government promised a deficit of 1.2 trillion rubles ($14,2 billion). In reality, the deficit will be several times higher.Currently, the deficit is almost 5 trillion ($59,5 billion), and by the end of the year, it could reach 6-8 trillion ($95 billion).Now, when submitting the state budget for 2026, the deficit is estimated at 4.6 trillion rubles ($54,7 billion) already (a prognosis three times worse than for 2025).https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1971483799050420338https://files.catbox.moe/rs2yz9.mp4
According to reports in Russian media, a truck crashed into a train carrying fuel in Smolensk region of Russia. 18 train cars went off rails and a large fire erupted.https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1971492698243858921video 1https://files.catbox.moe/4mze7t.mp4video 2https://files.catbox.moe/h6sq9s.mp4video 3https://files.catbox.moe/g4fx9l.mp4
Does Ukr use any Weatherby Mark V's
>>517346904I ran into a cashier who couldn't help herself from being utterly addicted to videos of soap being cut for some reason. Before I had that insane RL random encounter I thought that was online shit for really weird dysfunctional zoomers who had serious problems. Reality decided to give me a reality check that day when I watched her go between working and swiping.>>517347304>He did understand it.I don't think he "did" in a rational and logical way, he was acting insanely kneejerk and in a way that reminded me of how Soviet generals reacted to Gulf War (Will remark: Great reads for trying to understand mindsets/institutitional mindset) in how they criticized the "wastefulness" of Western systems.>A human can. They can produce lots of something that sort of looks like ammo (or any other product) and very rarely actually works as intended. Welcome to USSR.I know the USSR overlearned tons of wrong lessons (and incorporated ideology into doctrine) after WW2. The whole trying to turn warfare into a solvable math formula, the belief that shitty low quality, supposedly high quantity (and obviously not made/embezzled/etc) munitions would triumph, etc really soaked into the Soviet institution.I'll cite this funny example of Soviet mentality:>In order to design the new gun for the BMP, Gryazov took the GSh-6-30 rotary aircraft cannon that used the powerful 30x165mm round, propelling the 400g projectile to 800 m/s. He basically removed one of the six guns along with the chamber and breech system and used it as a single-barrel weapon. While the solution was viable, GRAU interfered yet again with the development – the gun was fired electrically, but the chief of GRAU technical department, A.A.Grigoriev, insisted on mechanical firing mechanism.>The argument for this was that the gun „must be possible to be fired even if there is one last man alive in the vehicle with nothing left but his bare hands“.
>>517348726>According to reports in Russian media, a truck crashed into a train carrying fuel in Smolensk region of Russia. 18 train cars went off rails and a large fire erupted.video 1
>>517348726>According to reports in Russian media, a truck crashed into a train carrying fuel in Smolensk region of Russia. 18 train cars went off rails and a large fire erupted.video 2
>>517348241>LLMs know more than the sum of humanityBullshit. They can't prove it. Everyone who knows what statistical models are will tell them that that this is false.>It just bugs me that when I was a student I was made to cite examplesStop caring about unfairness. Xi is a monster and I'm sure he lives in luxury like other tyrants. There will always be some dictator somewhere that lives more affluently than you for a while. So what? You have your soul to care about. Naturally there is a need to provide for the body too but there are limits. Evil men will always go beyond this limit while neglecting their souls. And then be all surprised when the consequences catch up to them.>Somehow it never crossed their mind to do something like writing inNo. That is what learned helplessness is. They are uncertain of basically anything aside from the most basic things and even then it might have exceptions too.>Surely at some point they were made to write the same essaysAnd there are socially acceptable ways of cheating past that. I don't even know how, I just know they must exist.>seems forum hosting is harder these days than in the 00sTrue. Still, there are ways.
>>517348726>According to reports in Russian media, a truck crashed into a train carrying fuel in Smolensk region of Russia. 18 train cars went off rails and a large fire erupted.video 3
President of Finland Alexander Stubb:"When we look at war, there are elements of it that are brutal, vulgar, and unethical. But the kidnapping of children, I think, goes beyond all of that. And we have to think that it's not only about the children being abducted and taken away and russified, but it's also about bringing them back and what happens to them when they are back.So the organization [Voices of Children Foundation] that I was talking to said that they desperately needed more psychiatrists, because when the kids come back and they have been told by the Russians that 'your parents don't love you, Ukrainians hate you, and you're a failure,' the mental stress that you get as a child, no matter what age, is simply beyond anything that we can imagine.": Voices of Children Foundationhttps://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1971512298616332697https://files.catbox.moe/gapil2.mp4
>>517348241>The aggressive rejections and weird "LLMs know more than the sum of humanity/you're stupid compared to LLMs"And then I show them how I ask ChatGPT for a recipe of "pig wings" (or some other nonsense) and it happily hallucinates ones for me. Yes, that happened.
A Russian made a review of a new Lada Largus, priced at almost 1,8 million rubles ($21,5 thousand) in the "Comfort" trim level.The car does not have climate control, a stereo, steering wheel and seat adjustment, covering or function buttons on the steering wheel. It also has an outdated dashboard, and instead of speakers, there are foam plugs.https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1971524074724565078https://files.catbox.moe/on4cbh.mp4
>>517346404cars are globohomo, the average russian has no need for one
>>517348466>the first factory making toilet paper opened in 1969 and had to be purchased from UKOh no you don't. You don't get to call it toilet paper without actually posting what it looked like. What it likely STILL looks like in Moscowy.
Russian propagandist Simonyan wrote that her husband, Russian propagandist and warmonger Tigran Keosayan, has died last night. He was in a coma for months.https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1971533660420550734
Dutch police arrested two teenagers aged 17 on suspicion of "state interference," with links to Russia, De Telegraaf reported.According to the newspaper, the teenagers were contacted by pro-Russian hackers on the Telegram app. One of the boys allegedly walked past the offices of Europol, Eurojust, and the Canadian embassy in The Hague carrying a "WiFi sniffer" - a device designed to identify and intercept WiFi networks.The teenagers appeared before a judge on Thursday, who ordered one boy be remanded in custody for two more weeks and the other placed on strict home bail conditions until a hearing. According to Dutch law, people secretly collaborating with a foreign power to harm national interests can face up to eight years in prison.https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1971577631905603689
>>517349017das right
>>517347526I think in regards to actual creatives, there's a relative golden age of tools (from software to physical hardware) in how many things have become available + are more user friendly/safer + do things better. The thing is that simultaneously there's been a shift (at least from what I can feel) in regards to the US becoming post-industrial where a lot of people simply lack the basic utility skillset of fixing things and making little solutions to things which is part of why I say that it is a per capita shift.>>517347836The only thing that took me a moment to get over disbelief was the rampant homoeroticism and faggotry that was well beyond any form of homosexuality or gayness. To that when I try to introduce that to people online they still think I'm pulling their legs, that is, until I bombard them my folder of "milblogger homoeroticism" screenshots.Personally I got pulled in a bit more to the absolute belief side that pidors are huge flaming explosive reactively armored closeted faggots after looking at AIDS statistics more in depth (transmissibility, rates in Eastern Europe, the Donbabwaean that spread AIDS across Ukraine that was genetically tracked, etc) and so on.
>>517349034you mean it being literal sandpaper?
>>517347422That's dumb. USA has been on the way out for a while now, whether due rising isolationalism demands among population, impossibility of eternal growth ideology causing (likely global) economic collapse, or just plain old hardline political divide that will lead to irreversible governmental collapse. It would be be more accurate to say that Russia is currently causing problems specifically because US influence has been weakening.
https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1971606390792736898Russia is helping prepare China to attack Taiwan - the Washington Post◾ According to information obtained, Russia has reportedly agreed to equip and train a Chinese airborne battalion and share its expertise in airdropping armored vehicles that analysts say could boost Beijing's capacity to seize Taiwan◾ The agreements allegedly allow Beijing to access training and technology in one of the few areas where Russian capabilities still surpass those of the Chinese military: more experienced airborne troops◾ Moscow has become increasingly dependent on China for dual-use items to prop up its sanctions-hit military industry and sustain its war in Ukraine. However, at the same time, Beijing is using Russia's experience to accelerate its army modernization program and bring its capabilities to the level of the US armed forces◾ The documents, details of which have been verified by the RUSI, a British think tank, appear to demonstrate the deepening alliance between Moscow and Beijing, moving beyond symbolic joint drills and public statements to develop interoperable systems and shared combat experience in areas that China considers critical for winning a battle over Taiwan◾ According to the documents, in October 2024, Russia agreed to sell China 37 BMD-4M light amphibious vehicles, 11 Sprut-SDM1 self-propelled anti-tank guns, 11 BTR-MDM armored personnel carriers, and parachute systems designed to airdrop heavy loads. The total value of the contract was $584 million◾ Separate documents outlined training programs for Chinese paratroopers in the combat use of the weaponry and the advanced command and control systems used to direct operations by Russian specialists in Russia and later in China. RUSI said it would give China's air force "expanded air maneuver capability" that offered "offensive options against Taiwan, the Philippines, and other island states in the regions">part 1
>>517349245>Russia is helping prepare China to attack Taiwan - the Washington Post◾ Although Beijing declined to provide military hardware at scale for Russia's war effort, the two countries have continued to celebrate a close security partnership. In 2024, they held 14 joint exercises, nearly double the number a decade earlier.◾ Analysts emphasize that for China, Russia's airdrop expertise is most valuable, which is important in the event of an invasion of Taiwan. Chinese planners consider deploying well-equipped units to Taiwan in the early hours of a conflict.◾ According to the experts, the Chinese military "have studied D-Day backward, forward and upside down [and] realized that it would have failed without an airborne component." That makes the Russian experience in Ukraine and Syria even more valuable for Beijing.◾ If the invasion takes place, Moscow's supply of natural resources and its defense industry could become "strategic backup for China." At the same time, for Taiwan, Russian support for China's airborne capabilities intensifies concerns that Beijing could seize infrastructure inland even as it storms ports and beaches along the coast.https://washingtonpost.com/world/2025/09/26/russia-china-weapons-sales-air-assault/>part 2
Lukashenko said Russia, Ukraine and Belarus need to agree to end "this incomprehensible war."He should tell that to his friend Putin who has chosen the path of escalation.https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1971620621726670854https://files.catbox.moe/krs9yo.mp4
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A Ukrainian Defender managed to shoot down a Russian drone mere moments before it attacked the Ukrainian vehicle.https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1971652102184444214https://files.catbox.moe/vbe1zr.mp4
Subvert ziggers
>>517349354that guy must have some serious leverage over putin to speak like that
>>517348370>Back didn't hurt dick workedI see that was a bit weird for me to understand at first.>Meat in shopshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa6btjwdKTc&t=10m50sFrom the family I had they lived in one of the major coastal cities so in a way that may have put them as being a contemporary for a Soviet equivalent of like Kyiv or Saint Petersburg in terms of their city relevance (but less than "Moscow") and thus supply. I believe Sergei lived in Kyiv briefly (from my memories of his videos/rants) for some period but also lived in the country as well.>Know right peoplehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VboycdTz0oIAt 17:55+ he had a whole thing about lady in a position of working at the >central shoe warehouse of Kyiv had all the nice foreign shit.>Where someone grows upI think I have a nuanced view of this from interacting with various immigrant groups who share stories about how shit things were from where they came and aggressively want things here to not become shitty like from where they came from. Simultaneously you get fuckers like Russians with Attitude and other insufferable expats which make me want to slam the deport button over so hard.
>>517348774>I know the USSR overlearned tons of wrong lessons (and incorporated ideology into doctrine) after WW2. The whole trying to turn warfare into a solvable math formula, the belief that shitty low quality, supposedly high quantity (and obviously not made/embezzled/etc) munitions would triumph, etc really soaked into the Soviet institution.No-no-no, you got it all completely wrong. That shoe factory being utter fucking shit in Govnoshahtozalupinsk? It's because it's actually meant to produce tires for logistics trucks at a moment's notice but has to busy itself with producing something that generally resembles shoes if you look from 30 metres away and squint really hard. Here's another relevant joke for you:>Americans stole blueprints for a USSR military planeI know, this is already funny in retrospect but back then we didn't think it's retarded, just bear with it. So>Americans stole blueprints for a USSR military plane>tried to make the plane according to them>results in a combine harvester>they check everything and try again>still a combine harvester>check everything more thoroughly and there's a small note in the blueprints "when assembling, fix components with a file"Here's your source of "smekalochka" (cunning). And an explanation for why they think they're so great.>>In order to design the new gun for the BMP, Gryazov took99% of those are utter fucking bullshit because it is always them taking some actual human-made tech and fucking it up beyond recognition. Like a no-name Shpagiin "inventing" a machine-pistol after they invaded Finland, or Kalashnikov "inventing" an auto rifle after they "single-handedly won" against the Reich and got Hugo Schmeisser along with StG44.The process is still somewhat believable but the part of "some commie faggot invented something" is not.Also, while there definitely were some people here specifically who contributed somewhat to "soviet rocketry", most of it was thanks to abducted Germans like Gröttrup.
>>517349605Well, I mean, if the potato dictator wanted, he probably could kick out russians out of the country now that Russia has been seriously weakened and tied into Ukraine. Or get assassinated if he even thought about it, but yeah, theoretically it could be possible.
>>517349840>Tupolev inventing Tu-4 miraculously after a couple B-29s had to land in USSR after getting over Japan
>>517348370>Shielded from worse off thingsFrom the Chinese side of things I'll just share a story about how a much, much older family member got to see the mass graves that (what I speculate to be lye from the description) caustic fluid was being poured into by the communists. Their own children never saw this with their eyes and refuse to believe in such acts and were instead products of a propagandized generation that saw the Japanese (and less so "foreign devils") as the only evil do-ers to have ever existed. Meanwhile they remembered the people who cried out to be remembered while they were rounded up into trucks and brought to said mass gravesites. Their children ate a shit sandwich under the Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution but I don't think they ever hit that level of cruelty and suffering that they went through as the generation that lived through Warlord China, WW2 and the Chinese Civil War.>Cover things upIt blew my mind that modern Russian zoomers invading had no idea what the fuck Chernobyl was. Greatest disaster at the end of the USSR and all but nope shit caused the state to lose face so bury bury BURY. Then bury that shit up after the USSR fell. Even if it has a literal famous video game franchise around it nope fucking dig the trenches, stir up the dust nothing is wrong here at all.>>517348466>>517349034>TPOh fuck no. My friend told me about the literal sandpaper with pieces of wood in it that would get embedded in your ass. I thought he was just describing the brown paper towels you'd find in bathroom dispensers at the time but no he meant it in the most literal sense and gave me photos of the more modern and "softer" types. Apparently that was the norm all the way into the late 80s of the USSR even in places like Leningrad/Volgagrad (which I understand is a tier below Saint Petersberg).
>>517349119>looking at AIDS statistics more in depthDon't forget Estonia, Latvia and Finland where the density of Moscowians correlates with HIV. And this happens in every other country. Definitely no causation, yep.>>517349128>literalIf only. It'd be useful for something then.
>>517349605Nah, just the same old, with the hint that things are painful for monke
>>517350216>If only. It'd be useful for something then.I've seen people use it to polish things, yes
>>517348823>Bullshit. They can't prove it.>"ChatGPT/Grok show this idiot why he's wrong.">Copy pastes the very long reply to me and goes "you got rekt stfu now.">Stop caring about unfairness.To clarify: It wasn't about fairness but I expect someone who goes through the same K-12 system as me in the US to have been effectively been told "go look that up and cite it in your 5 paragraph essay." For some reason that never "stuck" with some zoomers who were ~5-8 years younger than me for some reason?>>517348975>"Its still in development but it already knows more than actual experts."At some level they remind me of the (AI) singularity cultists that existed over a decade ago but they're taking the words of an advanced chatbot as the next imminent god. They are exceptionally dismissive of hallucinations and go "well just ask the other AI about it to double check: Grok is ChatGPT wrong?">>517350216>My face when I realized Russophonicness correlated with AIDS in Ukraine in 2022 when I was going down that rabbbithole.>When I saw the Baltics and saw the same too.
No booms last night?
>>517349816>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa6btjwdKTc&t=10m50sThe fish tank truck practice was still a thing here like 20 years ago. But in the shops you'd be better off going to "republic capitals" or specifically to Moscow (allegedly, never been there thankfully).>lived in one of the major coastal citiesThis is a whole different kettle of fish because those were "resort zones", tourist destinations. What you could buy there was different from anything you could buy elsewhere. You went to coastal whatevers (villages too if you knew people who could provide lodgings basically) on vacation. Fuck, the more I'm remembering the worse it gets.>beef being only from old cows unless you're "in the know"Yep. Thanks for reminding me how absolutely atrocious that place was. Except he doesn't mention that being a butcher, a word he can't recall, means you can get meat when it's officially not there (i.e. most of the time). And that you and your family-friends-customers get the best parts instead of everyone else. But all that after the party functiners above you get their cut basically. You might sneak something away and they'll probably know, but as long as you don't take too much for yourself and your whatevers, it's not a big deal. Damn, I really don't miss USSR.>shoesHaven't watched much of it but overall anyone who "had access" to something was indeed someone you sought out. And it was always something foreign because USSR didn't produce anything good except weapons, which it stole from the Reich or made in factories imported wholly, down to fucking nuts and bolts, from USA before WW2.
>>517346018HeheNice vid Anon.Does the guy telling a fair critic about the "Ukrainian Operation" still alive ?
>>517349840>Soviet design bureausWhat got me when I was trying to understand Soviet hardware (since obviously the nemesis of the US, the USSR is no more in the 90s and thus information trickled onto the internet very, very slowly) was how they were setup as cults of personalities while simultaneously the Soviets denounced the very concept that one could "do better" as a person and be of individual worth. Shit was maximum levels of cognitive dissonance as to how much they tried to make weird figurehead-heroes out of design bureau heads other figures. Simultaneously you had shit like Stalin purging them (with some designers intentionally fucking others over on purpose) and the insane levels of political intrigue that makes any defense industry development drama in the US seem like utter perfect drama free boredom.>Sergei Korolev (who wasn't a hypergolic freak)>Igor Skiorsky was born in Kyiv but moved to the USFor how much Russians talk shit about Ukraine about being a bunch of cultureless hicks, it sure made a lot of rocketry and avionics. The more American attitude of about bored farmers making aircraft in their off time or unironically >Rocket Boys* always made me look at Russians talking shit about Ukraine (before 2022) in that regard weird.*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Sky>KalashnikovAFAIK I think it is closer to if the Garand's action was put into the Stg44's formfactor rather than a Stg44 derivative.
>>517349840I should add as I'm a mild Morozov/Kharkiv plant enjoyer: I found it interesting as to how many times Soviet internal lobbying from design bureaus like the neanderthals at Uralvagonzavod (literally too retarded to build better tank designs in better ways) would end up shit canning better designs. Like time and time again, it could be a Morozov/Kharkiv plant concept or it could be from any other part of the Soviet Union including inside Soviet Russia but if a better, more survivable, etc design came out? Some shittier design bureau would go and lobby with immense force for Moscow to shitcan the next generation whatever attempt of replacing their current system and to instead re-evaluate everything which ended up with the typically shittier system being adopted instead because of the "muh its more disposable, even a retarded proletariat conscript would maintain it by smashing it with the butt of his rifle." Moscow instantly picks the more retarded system.Obligatory BMP-1 story:>The 2A28 Grom is a 73mm smoothbore low-pressure gun, its primary purpose firing HEAT shells at enemy armored targets (HE-Frag shells were only introduced later on in mid-70’s). It was not selected as the best weapon for the future Soviet IFV, it was chosen simply because no other gun was available. This unfortunate situation was partially caused by the overseer of the BMP-1 development, GRAU (Main Missile and Artillery Directorate), as opposed to the „usual“ armor development overseer, GBTU (Main Armor Directorate). From the names of these Soviet institutions, their line of thought is not that hard to fathom. GRAU was heavily influenced by Khruschev government’s incompetence and placed their bet on a losing horse: early missiles. When this line of thought turned out to be wrong, they naturally did not want to be the ones to be held responsible and continued to refuse any blame.1/2
>>517350119Absolutely, I was just at character limit already.>>517350137>mass graves that (what I speculate to be lye from the description) caustic fluid was being poured into by the communistsDefinitely fits. No such thing as too low for them. Funny how it sounds like propaganda for the kids until they actually experience it on their own hides and then go "but I've always been a good little commie" like in that meme picture.And regarding toilet paper, now you know only some newspapers were acceptable as substitutes. Because you obviously must not wipe your arse with a piece of paper that contains a photo of the great leader. Or at least you must not be caught doing so.
>>517349840>GRAU in turn had no lighter, automatic cannon available and did not oversee any institute or bureau that would be capable of designing one, as most were disbanded in the early 60’s. Automatic guns were only developed by the Soviet air force and the navy, but those fell under different government officials, not affiliated with GRAU. What made the matter even worse was the fact that certain GRAU generals „fell in love“ with the 2A28 caliber, promoting it as „the most powerful gun ever mounted on an IFV“. When actual officers in charge of these vehicles complained about the gun’s poor performance and accuracy, they were accused of poor maintenance and insufficient training with all the complaints being silently swept under the rug. But the rumors slowly made their way up the Soviet ranks and in the end, GBTU forced the issue by organizing official shooting trials at Kubinka proving grounds. A BMP-1 was to fire against an obsolete T-55 tank at 800 meters (the target was not moving). And the result of the trials? Of 50 shots, only 17 did hit the tank - others were carried off their trajectory by the wind. The shells that did hit made their impacts under different angles – some ricocheted, some did not, but in the end, not a single shell managed to penetrate the vehicle. After the trials, a driver just drove off with the undamaged tank – a fitting testament to the inefficiency of the Grom gun.>This particular trial finally caused a scandal in Soviet ranks and the ministry of defense immediately ordered the vehicle to be modified in order to increase its firepower. As a part of this initiative, it was to be fitted with a dual-axis stabilizer and with the newest generation of anti-tank missiles. What followed however was to be the proof of the fact that strange IFV development process filled with blunders was by no means exclusive to the Americans.
Fillet ziggers
>>517348438russia is a highly flammable paper bear
>>517348726kek they just can't catch a break lmao
>>517349840>At first, ChKZ tried to use the fact favor of GRAU and decided to improve the Grom gun. The result was an experimental vehicle designated Object 768 with a one-man turret and an improved 73mm gun, designation „Zarnitsa“. This weapon used the same ammunition as the Grom, but its barrel was longer, resulting in improved accuracy and range. To silence the cries of Soviet soldiers for a better infantry support weapon, they paired the gun with one 12,7mm NSVT machinegun. Since both guns did not fit the original turret and additional space for the stabilizer mechanism was required as well, ChKZ reworked the turret and increased its size. This turned out to be a problem as well, since the increased weight of the weapons and turret caused the vehicle to lose its amphibious capability. This in turn was „solved“ by making the hull longer and adding the seventh roadwheel while the turret was shifted to the back. This „modification“ did not bother the ChKZ designers at all – after all, they wouldn’t have to actually produce the hull, as it was to be manufactured by their competitor, KMZ.I lied it wasn't 1/2 but welcome to 2/3>>517350119The American meme on that is that Stalin ordered it to be a 1:1 copy to the point the engineers who basically knew Beria would be on their asses for deviating from that 1:1 copied the bullet holes in the B-29s. Not sure how true it is but believable given how imposing Stalin was (down to needing Beria to introduce an idea as being retarded to Stalin by other commies at the time but were fearful he'd simply have them killed for stating the obvious).
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>>517350450He вiд хopoшoгo життя нaпeвнe. Impressive anyway. It was possible to find things at markets generally and they were completely unusable when you bought from actual people and not the state.>>517350469>but I expect someone who goes through the same K-12 system as meStandards stopped being standards because majority stopped fitting them but also it wasn't politically acceptable to admit that. Many such cases. Here, if some politicians make retarded laws, but then hundreds of thousands refuse to obey those laws, the laws are changed. But the money (salaries, electricity for the Parliamentary equipment used and so on) is already wasted. Sometimes I wish Zelensky really just shot most of them and then went back to being an actor. But this probably wouldn't fix anything as our majority wouldn't have learned to elect better replacements.
>>517346773I thought you guys just let them break down outside your commie blocks and they become like playground equipment for local children no?
>>517349129cope more, US isn't declining at all
>>517349840>In the end, the weight was increased to 13.5 tons and despite the fact the hull was now 83 centimeters longer, only six infantrymen could fit inside this vehicle. This issue in turn caused notable lack of enthusiasm in GBTU (to put it mildly) but despite the objections the Object 768 was finished and ready for trials by the end of 1972. In the end however, the project was significantly delayed by the „competition“ – the KMZ representatives in the OKB were adamant: the vehicle has to be based on the current, existing BMP hull, as the „modifications“ ChKZ proposed would require a complete overhaul of the entire assembly line. And so the „cooperation“ was de-facto over before it even began. The KMZ designers then decided to comply with the army requests and proposed a vehicle equipped with an effective automatic gun, capable of infantry support role (at this point, the 73mm guns were still firing HEAT shells only, HE-Frag would come only two years later) and of fighting enemy soft targets, slower aircraft and – most notably – helicopters, that were becoming very popular with NATO at that point.3/3Whenever I go over Soviet hardware development stories they're an insane hot mess, kind of like >Soviet Nuclear Anything.>>517351171>Coastal citiesNo tourism in their city, China was ultra closed off. Literally 99.999999% ethnic Chinese except for one kid in one of the older family member's class who was a product of some foreign diplomat x local, moved away after Mao started his shit. Their city was big and one of the major ones (today it counts as a "tier 1" city) back then so they dodged most of the starvation that happened across the country (and honesty, in province)>Ushanka ShowI treat him like the equivalent of the unironic boomers of my family crying about how shitty things were under Mao in regards to "how shitty were things in Soviet Ukraine." Interesting to listen to his stories since I learn how similar the USSR was to China
>>517346142Ukraine is the aggressor
Damn you can't even get a real car for your dead son anymore
>>517352208https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1971524074724565078
>>517351832Oh, it's declining pretty fast. Just not militarily. The quality of life is going way down
>>517352117They're sitting at home defending their homeland while the asiatic hordes invade them
>>517349840>check everything more thoroughly and there's a small note in the blueprints "when assembling, fix components with a file"This also is a bit of a nightmare in terms of production engineering even as a joke. One of the ways the Bofors gun was "Americanized" from the original Swedish design was to adopt standardized production tolerances. The Bofors guns made by the Swedes at the time would have some critical dimensions hand fitted (metaphorically "hand filed") in effect since they were not producing that many of them. Meanwhile the US needed to deal with production scaling due to wanting to fit them onto a much larger naval fleet (as replacements to other guns that were less effective at the time), so the engineering work was done to figure out what the tolerance stackups were and then the "Americanized" version of the Bofors was made from that design package (among all the other changes).**Casual reference for the generalities of the history behind that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bofors_40_mm_L/60_gun#ManufacturingSo if the Soviets thought that kind of shitmelka ("lifehack" in millennialanese...) was a great way to deal with production in regards to societal views? ...Yeah. Profound retardation. I have no other words beyond maybe fetal alcohol syndrome?>How to not have quality nor quantity at all>Just be poor and shitty...Held up a bit well given the turtle tanks and other shit that's been fielded so far.
>>517351533>BMPThere's a reason it was called in the army "brotherly grave of infantry" (same abbreviation, bratskaia mogila pehoty).>>517351580>When actual officers in charge of these vehicles complained about the gun’s poor performance and accuracy, they were accused of poor maintenance and insufficient training with all the complaints being silently swept under the rug."Good" old red army, in one sentence. But hey, at least it always has lots of bodies to throw into meat waves, right. And sometimes even some halfway rusted junk to go along with that.>>517351764>copied the bullet holesNot the bullet holes but the patches over them. It's accurate.
>>517351807Weren't completely unusable. I hate this fucked up sleep schedule but such is life for now.
>>517352426They are sitting in an office in Langley, Virginia actually
>>517348991>No no no, see it's like Dacia, people want simple cars and ours is very simplified, da?
>>517352011>No tourism in their cityI think you misunderstand. There was no real tourism in USSR. It was "tourism" when people from one region went to vacation in a less depressing region. Normally near a sea. This is where their fetishism with the peninsula comes from.
>>517352733You sound like a kulak
>>517351807Didn't Zelenskyy effectively divert the military budget (given he was the reconciliation/dove candidate over Poroshenko's hawkish position) to more reformer-y projects like getting the road network repaved/maintained? Then Russia invaded right after which I heard was a huge impact in regards to the psychology of why he stood his ground. That's at least my superficial and English media understanding of the differences between them.>>517352532>Copied the patched up bullet holesFuck me that story used to be considered "it sounds bullshit but I'd believe it" territory. It burns. IT BURNS.>>517352532The fuel tank seat for the dismounts is another point. The way it is orientated so high and how warmed up diesel goes back into it from the common rail means that it has the effective flammability of gasoline. Meaning even any HEAT round inclusive of infantry munitions whacking the fuel tank leads to this webm in effect.I have there's some similar name for the BMD since the magnesium in the aluminum alloys will allow for runaway fires where the intensity is insane. This is aside from BMDs being only at best being rated for rifle caliber hits from some distance.>>517352733Ah talking about Communist China for my family, I was comparing their city as being tier 2 in the sense of a city being Not-Moscow in the USSR.
>>517351207dont know but will be sure to post it if hes announced dead lol
>>517349501Buy this man a beer.
Did anything happen?
>>517351264Yeah the AK has waaaay more Garand DNA in it than Stg44. Especially considering the early 1950s models had milled receivers. The stamped ones came much later with the AKM.
>>517352595As someone sitting in the Langley head office, I don't see any ukies here
>>517352913>he was the reconciliation/dove candidate over Poroshenko's hawkish positionMore or less. He and his are also let's say less efficient overall.>Ah talking about Communist ChinaYeah, but isn't it interesting how there's more and more in common between the two? Despite Xina not being communist anymore, allegedly?
>>517352532>The 2A42 autocannon in the BMP-2>As a result of this demand the breech had to be redesigned. While at it, GRAU demanded yet another modification of the gun – it had to have variable rate of fire (specifically for the soldiers to be able to fire only at half RPM – 300 instead of 600) „in order to conserve the ammunition“ This request completely ignored the fact that the gun rate of fire was limited by 8 round bursts anyway and the real reason for it was not as much ammo conservation as it was an attempt to bury – or at least delay – the development. Even without the GRAU interference the development was problematic as it was with the mechanical firing mechanism quite unreliable and the gun overheating. GRAU officers frequently joked: „What’s the rate of fire of that gun? 600 rounds per minute, but only once a month“>Another issue with the gun was its low accuracy. The gun, installed in the BMP turret, was simply incapable of hitting anything. It took three design bureaus and several GBTU experts to finally figure out in the end that the gun was completely fine, the real problem was in the stabilization of the entire turret: the stabilizing mechanism was incorrectly calibrated and the gun oscillation – instead of being negated by the stabilizer – actually added to it, causing abysmal loss of accuracy when using the stabilizer. This problem was finally fixed by certain modifications to the stabilizer itself (non-linear stabilizing).1/2Also I feel personally annoyed that (at least from public info) you guys haven't been getting more Bradleys (AFAIK should be that 150M sustainment contract for the existing fleet) and M113s. The former still has active production and doing the game of sending our older ones to justify production of newer M2A4s.
>>517353172Try a mirror
>>517346018Can't wait for Russia's shitty wartime economy to collapse. Everything relies on wartime production continuing at unsustainable levels.
>>517351619Phillip ziggers
>>517353221China is a screwball in that I'd say the 2000-2010s was more like quasi-ancap meets state-backed merchanitlism under the rule of the communist party. Under Xi he's trying to make it more commie again. A lot of people mistake China as being "not really communist" (Unironic n-year plans still issued etc being my counterpoint to leftoids in the US who ask for proof)To explain: Effectively if you're the equivalent of a midsized business and you're a shareholder type entity you are owned institutionally by a bunch of state entities (universities, pension funds, cities, etc) directly and indirectly (see former but via trading firms). Furthermore a lot of the "private investors" tend to be party officials or adjacent to them (ex: family friends of notable position party member's offspring).So I'll say that to a degree China is much more liberalized and capitalistic than say pre-Gorbachev USSR. Functionally speaking even under Xi they can be considered capitalist-ic to some degree but the moment you move towards bigger entities they're all basically stealth state owned or at least the state has some form of ultimate control over them. So spiritually they're commies and functionally they can turn into oldschool commies fast. They just don't pass Pol Pot's purity tests in regards to the hardline commies.
>>517352532>The final – and most annoying – issue with the gun came from an unexpected source: the ammunition. Simply put, it was creating too much gunpowder residue and the gasses quickly filled the crew compartment. When the vehicle was trialed in front of a GRAU committee, the KZM testers switched the compartment ventilators off in order to try to prevent vehicle power grid fluctuations that could interfere with turret controls. As a result, the soldiers present had to drag them out of the vehicle half-suffocated to death from the fumes and had to take them to a local hospital, much to the cynical amusement of the GRAU officials overseeing the tests. The gun designers proposed to use a mechanism that would use secondary burn of the gunpowder fumes after each shot. The only result of this initiative was that after the mechanism was implemented, backfire blasts were coming from the breech after every shot, covering half of the combat compartment in flames – the testing crews were not amused a single bit.>In the end, the situation was so bad that the developers actually considered mounting the gun externally, creating a vehicle called Object 680, which had a very flat turret with the gun mounted on the rear part of the turret roof. The ammunition feed was located inside the turret. This solution had to be scrapped as well, as the turret could not be protected from WMD’s due to the leaky ammunition feed shaft and it was also not possible to run a powerful ventilator, required to keep the fumes from firing the gun from suffocating the crew, as it interfered with the compartment overpressure and the vehicle was no longer gas-protected. In the end, a rather complicated solution was invented, involving the ventilator running only when the gun was firing, but this caused more delays and the development ran well into 1975.2/2
>>517352532>After years of pointless bickering, Grechko’s patience ran out and he ordered full set of comparative trials to finally find the answer to the future of the BMP program armament. These tests took place by the end of 1978 at Alabino proving grounds near Moscow and everyone important to the program was there. The vehicle crews were provided by the 2nd Guards Motor Rifle Division „Tamanskaya“. Participating were the KMZ prototypes with both 30mm and 73mm armament.>The tests showed once for all that the 30mm gun was more suitable than the 73mm one when it came to accuracy and GRAU was practically defeated, but they had one last trump card to play: the penetration tests. GRAU managed to convince the commander of the army, general Pavlovsky, to perform shooting tests against real targets, hoping that the 73mm Zarnitsa would prove its worth by penetrating enemy armor. With all the other positions and arguments lost, it was all or nothing for GRAU.>The tests took place against two worn-out T-72 tanks and once and for all have shown the dominance of the 30mm gun. While neither of the guns was able to knock out any of the tanks completely (something the Zarnitsa supporters claimed to be possible), the 30mm gun caused significant external damage by destroying optics, external fuel tanks and one small 30mm shell even jammed one of the turrets. With these results, GRAU was forced to concede defeat. 30mm Object 675 would finally be accepted in service later on as the BMP-2. As a last act of defiance however, GRAU representatives decided that the BMP-2 production would not exceed 10 percent of the total BMP-1 production.I have another much longer thing over the T-64 vs T-72 and how the T-64 ended up actually maturing as a platform to become lower cost (less strategic material usage) while being higher capability, source material is from a Russophone Ukrainian digging through the archives. Of course the T-72 got lobbied across the finish line by UVZ.
>>517353221>he was the reconciliation/dove candidateabsolutely no one believes the globohomo puppet leader was the "peace" candidate.the primary disability of ukrainians is they assume everyone is just as retarded as they are.
>>517353087How so? The overall design is way too similar. It has nearly exact same sights, fire mode selector, 30 round magazine, pistol grip, stock. From what I can tell the internals are almost the same as AK-74 which I've handled personally.
>>517352702finland makes absolutely nothing of note.
>>517353226>The former still has active production and doing the game of sending our older ones to justify production of newer M2A4s.But think of all the homeless that could eat the old ones or at least live in them!
>>517345937>LatestThat's not a "Latest". THIS is a LATEST!>Zelensky admits the Ukraine is losing the war>>>/gif/29523477>FSB Counter-Terror Unit Gorynych of Donetsk liquidates AfU drone operators targetting civilians near Toretsk and Horlovka>>>/gif/29519557>Russian troops annihilate Ukrainian troops, fly the flag of Russia over Kalinovskoye>>>/gif/29519562>Stormtrooper wounded by shrapnel is carried by his battalion commander 200 yards to safety>>>/gif/29519566>Soldiers of the 71st Guards Motorized Rifle Regiment liquidated a Ukrainian T-72 tank crew>>>/gif/29519570>36th Separate Guards Brigade of Vostok liberates Beryozovoye in Dnepropetrovsk oblast>>>/gif/29519575>DRG cutting barbwire, trench sweeping>>>/gif/29519578>NOT COMFY; Banderite subhumans target old woman being evacuated, wound her, lure Russian medics to FPV drone strike>>>/gif/29519583>Belaya Gora pipe operation into Konstantinovka>>>/gif/29519590>Stormtroopers ambush AfU scouts in Krasnoarmeysk>>>/gif/29519596>DRG are the boogie men of Ukrainian spetsnaz>>>/gif/29519603>They can't keep getting away with it!; Russian stormtroopers crawl through pipes into Kupyansk's outskirts>>>/gif/29519610>Video of Russian stormtroopers officially flying the Russian flag in liberated Rusin Yar>>>/gif/29519618>Gerans slam into Kruikiv bridge, Kremenchuk>>>/gif/29519621>Warehouse in Kiev double tapped, patriot interceptor self implodes late, 9/07/25>>>/gif/29519624>Russian POV drone sends TCC bastards to Hell>>>/gif/29519627>Alfa FSB interrogation of captured GUR commander last month near Brynsk>>>/gif/29519631>Mobile Anti-Air night action at the front>>>/gif/29519633>About 50 Azov kosher nazis annihilated in mechanized suicidal charge in the area of Karpovka, Srednee, Shandrigolovo, and Derilovo>>>/gif/29519638>Azog Commissars slaughtered in failed push on Novomikhailovka>>>/gif/29519643>T-72B3M Turtle Tank storming Krasnoarmeysk>>>/gif/29519646
>>517353495To further clarify: A lot of those mid but especially large sized shareholder owned businesses aren't 100% owned by the party. They tend to own a controlling majority for the combined shares of state and party associated interests. Whenever shit goes down they more or less can strongarm the company simply by having all the component shareholders demand shit while making the minority shareholders shoulder all of the risk. So if they want DJI to do something sanctionworthy then so be it, no way to complain and no need to use the commissar-y types embedded into the company (as mandated by Xi) to do more strongarm shit.>>517353868The gas action isn't related to the Stg44, the formfactor arguably is. Look at how the Stg44 has a tilting bolt:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJiAyl2iImMCompare that to how the Garand locks up the bolt:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPWVnHa6wnA&t=2m3s
>>517353495>Furthermore a lot of the "private investors" tend to be party officials or adjacent to them (ex: family friends of notable position party member's offspring).And this is how Moscowy worked starting from Yeltsin. They just made their already de facto party-ran racket official except there was a brief period when initially independent organised crime emerged as competition for a while but then police and KGB merged with it and killed off everyone who didn't agree to this.
>>517353631>>2nd Guards Motor Rifle Division „Tamanskaya“IIRC they're extinct now. Or was it a tank division with the same name?
>>517353938>John from Texas oblast hungers for our Oltermanni once againYou're not getting it boyo
>>517353631This is more from my own Morozov and Kharkiv enjoyer perspective but Ukrainian modernizations have some serious thoughtfulness to them in regards to adding the folding step ladders to the back fender so crews don't BLOW OUT THEIR KNEES as much during peacetime. In general lots of refinement that the knuckle dragging neanderthals over at Uralvagonzavod would never implement. I see these stairs on modernized T-64s and AFAIK some of the T-84 Oplots would have had them too depending on how modernized they were. >>517354156Putin was incredibly brazen about the consolidations in downright putting them into state owned corporations or "dude, lmao gazprom owns all of this" tier entities. I used to follow that era of post Soviet weaponry and saw the forced mergers right up before 2014.>>517354280...Think that's the very same 2GMRD.
>>517351832It is just a natural cycle of these things. I'm not saying that it will happen in the immediate future or that USA can't survive the eventual shit it finds itself in, but I'm saying that USA won't forever be some sort of big daddy guardian for the europe or the rest of the world. It will be better especially for the europe to learn how to survive on our own, and quickly at that.
>>517354071I thought Russia ran out of funding for you jeets?
>>517352208>>517352273that dashboard is straight out of a 2012 dacia sandero lol
>>517354507I remember our T-84 being sold to somewhere (UAE?) and was hoping that we still had a few kept somewhere. I guess we did sell everything and couldn't buy them back. Or produce new ones.It's not just Gazprom. They're everywhere. The original guy replaced everyone with "his men" and I guess they've become influential and rich enough to not be easily replaced now.
>>517354895duster*
TzD btw
>>517355063TZD: Total Zelensky Death
T Z D Z D D
>>517355182ziggeria is a made up country comprised almost exclusively of churkas and gypsies
>>517353868>the internals are almost the same as AK-74they aren't even close. AKs are rotating bolt. Stg is tilting bolt (like a SKS).AK is a reworked Garand action. The safety is from a Remington Model 8 as well.The stuff you name (stock, grip, mag, sights, etc) were all done elsewhere before the Stg came along and everybody was kicking around similar designs at the time. But the main thing that the AK is missing is the stamping. They, as first developed, were manufactured completely differently. The whole point of the Stg was to be able to crank them out quickly with fewer materials and labor than a battle rifle for the infantry.The AK-47, on the other hand, was developed as a successor to submachine guns for rear troops, artillerymen, tankers, and the like. The SKS was the post war rifle for the infantry. Soviet doctrine hadn't caught up to the role the Stg was built for. That came later in the 1960s and they reworked the AK-47 to fill it with the AKM.
Tear ziggers
>>517354953My understanding is that early on in the war Malyshev (Kharkiv) plant got hit a few times by ballistic missiles. I don't the production status but that was the only place that was welding up new build hulls for any Soviet/post Soviet lineage tank. Russian T-90s are built using refurbed T-72 hulls with new build welded turrets so they're not new hulls. That and the steel came out of Azovstal as well AFAIK.AFAIK you guys still have a few but attrition rates means I think they're technically rarer than Leopard 2s and Abrams in terms of parts to repair them with.Did you also know the BKP transmission found in the T-64 is also used in every Soviet tank afterwards from the T-72, T-80 and into the post soviet T-84 (which has a reverser system in the final drive to give it fast reverse) and also the T-90 (it is just a T-72 after all)? The T-84-120 variant ran into some limitations as to how much the Kharkiv Morozov design bureau could do given the power limitations on the BKP and the overall suspension design of the T-84 (which descends from the T-80UD) so there's a lot of stuff they wish they could do in terms of making a production T-84-120 design but the weight budget is the limiting factor to how much more can be done to it design wise.Also the T-90M knocked off the external ammo storage bustle for the rounds outside of the autoloader from the T-84 as well. Not sure how much you're into your own national hardware but I have admiration for Ukrainian engineers given what kind of budgets they have to work with and the overall Soviet legacy haunting specter for the defense industry pre-war.
>>517354824>I thought Russia ran out of funding for you jeets?I wish I was paid to do this.
>>517354071Remember when you posted niggers torturing a white ukrainian, why you stopped? Jeet nigger, is air good in deli?
did you know brave ruzzian men can even fly? what say you kokolinas
>>517355605ah so they did run out of funding, grim
>>517355599I know a bit but only about the newest things like UAVs generally. I wasn't that interested in military hardware before 2014. And now it's too much information to absorb every day.
>>517355239While Indians land on moon, Ukrainians land on minefield
>>517355664>Remember when you posted niggers torturing a white ukrainian, why you stopped?I think you have me conflated with someone else.>Jeet nigger, is air good in deli?I hear smog is bad in that country. I've never been there.>>517355882>ah so they did run out of funding, grimI was never funded at any point. This is just my hobby I guess.
In India, you see buildings go upIn Ukraine, you see buildings go boom
>>517356161Brown short subhuman you are
>>517356161>jeet has literally nothing better to do than shill for monke FOR FREEabsolute state
>>517356175You saying that we should send more weapons to ukraine in that case?
>>517356175You literally shit in streets, Rajesh
>>517356394You shit in a trench because your government sweeps you off the streets
>>517356226>Brown short subhuman you areI'm actually tall and White.>>517356277I doubt you're paid for your postings either.
>>517356520Sure
>>517356480Unlike you my flag is real, Rajesh>>517356520>I'm actually tall and White.(by Indian standards)
>>517356115
>I'm actually tall and white
>>517356602>>517356621Nobody gives a fuck about Romania
>>>517345937Now Then, In the Name of that Jupiter-Mars: Those who bless the Ukrainian-men are now blessed, As those who curse the Ukrainian-men are now cursed. Selah. > And all of that is because I “surrender”! Amen, so mote it be.
...Copy-pasting a freebie 26-September-2025 top news & updates from the “Meanwhile in Ukraine” patreon-page:> www.patreon.com/meanwhileinukraine> www.buymeacoffee.com/meaninuak> www.ko-fi.com/meanwhileinuaUkraine’s Defense & Military Developments (1/2)>>> Commander-in-Chief Oleksandr Syrskyi said Russian forces on the Pokrovsk axis were caught in several “bags,” with Ukrainian brigades cutting withdrawal routes and hitting supply points around Udachne and south of Pokrovsk; Kyiv reported Leopard 2A4 crews suppressing strongpoints and destroying equipment stocks, constraining Russia’s ability to regroup.>>> The Air Force is creating a new branch for unmanned air-defense systems, Syrskyi confirmed; the concept pairs counter-UAV interceptors with electronic warfare units to protect energy, rail and critical logistics corridors ahead of winter attacks.>>> Special Operations Forces reported the destruction of launchers and support assets of Russia’s 448th Missile Brigade (Iskander) and air-defense cover, a follow-on to the 9 August strike package that also eliminated a Pantsir-S1 and ammunition depots in the Kursk area; the cumulative effect degrades Russian deep-strike planning.>>> The General Staff listed Russia’s daily battlefield losses at about 940 personnel, plus tanks, artillery systems and hundreds of UAVs neutralized; Ukrainian units also turned an industrial site near Udachne into a “graveyard” of Russian vehicles, tightening pressure along the line.>>> Zelensky asserted Ukraine will never recognize Russia’s attempted annexations and warned that if the Kremlin again tries to plunge Ukraine into blackout conditions, Ukrainian forces will escalate precision strikes on Russian energy infrastructure—hence the renewed call for U.S.-made long-range systems.
>>>517356976 (cont'd) Ukraine’s Defense & Military Developments (2/2)>>> Zelensky said Ukraine has freed roughly 168.8 km2 and cleared 182 km2 in recent months, with 85 high-value Russian facilities struck; he added Ukraine will begin exporting domestically made drones this year after receiving an offer from an African partner, underscoring a maturing defense-industrial base.>>> Security Service (SBU) officers detained an alleged FSB asset embedded in a Ukrainian energy company; investigators say the suspect attempted to pass grid-stability data useful for targeting.>>> A new volunteer contract for drone operators offers two years of service with compensation up to 3 million UAH, aiming to attract experienced pilots and scale front-line strike and reconnaissance capacity.>>> Zelensky said Donald Trump “wants Ukraine to win” but stressed that “Putin lied to Trump”; Kyiv privately raised the Tomahawk option during meetings in New York to compel the Kremlin toward negotiations from a position of strength.>>> Ukrainian action behind the lines: explosions and fires were recorded at Afipsky Oil Refinery in Russia’s Krasnodar region and at sites in Rostov and occupied Crimea; a Russian base near Belaya Berezka, Bryansk region, was reported destroyed, signaling sustained interdiction of fuel and troop hubs.>>> Kyiv warned it will respond militarily if cross-border drone provocations from the Hungarian direction continue; the Armed Forces published a flight map of a Hungarian reconnaissance UAV that twice crossed into Zakarpattia and ordered full video documentation of future incursions.
>>>517357065 (cont'd)Russia & the Warfront>>> A truck collided with a freight train in Smolensk region, derailing a locomotive and 18 tank cars loaded with gasoline; the blaze disrupted local fuel logistics amid ongoing supply stress from strikes and refinery outages.>>> An explosion damaged track on the St. Petersburg–Pskov route near Plyussy; while casualties were not reported, investigations and repairs slowed rail movement essential for military freight.>>> Russia launched approximately 154 attack drones overnight; Ukraine reported 128 downed or suppressed, with impacts causing rail delays and infrastructure checks in several regions, including near the South Ukraine Nuclear Power Plant where debris triggered safety inspections without reactor interruptions.>>> Fuel shortages deepened: Sevastopol’s three-day reserve reportedly evaporated within a day under panic buying, and shortages were reported in Russia’s Lipetsk region—an indicator of pressure on regional distribution.>>> Russian media figure Tigran Keosayan, known for hardline propaganda and calls for violence, died at 59 after months in a coma, removing a prominent voice in the Kremlin’s information apparatus.United States>>> U.S. defense leadership convened an urgent briefing with hundreds of generals to assess European security scenarios and Ukraine support options; Zelensky said Washington is weighing timing and scope for expanded intelligence and long-range capabilities.>>> Zelensky told U.S. interlocutors that Americans do not trust Putin and that Moscow’s manipulation is now better understood; he said Trump is open to lifting limits on long-range use against Russian targets but has not issued formal commitments.>>> Trump argued Russia’s economy is “collapsing” under sanctions and war costs, predicting minimal territorial gains would not offset spiraling losses—messaging Kyiv sees as supportive of tightening enforcement.
>>>517357175 (cont'd) Europe & World (1/2) >>> Poland urged its citizens to leave Belarus immediately, citing escalating security risks along the border and recent hostile incidents.>>> Denmark briefly closed Aalborg Airport again after drone sightings and tracked a Russian warship near the edge of Danish territorial waters; Copenhagen increased air policing and naval monitoring with NATO partners.>>> Germany will assist Ukraine in developing strike capabilities aimed at disabling Russian UAV production sites; separately, drones were spotted over northern German states, prompting police and aviation checks.>>> Lithuania authorized its armed forces to shoot down drones and other aerial intruders more rapidly inside national airspace, streamlining rules of engagement amid regional overflights.>>> The EU opened initial talks on a 19th Russia sanctions package as capitals debated stronger mechanisms to prevent single-state vetoes; Slovakia raised objections, signaling a difficult negotiation.
>>>517357268 (cont'd) Europe & World (2/2)>>> Hungary reiterated it cannot rapidly quit Russian oil and gas without severe economic damage and hinted at blocking steps in Ukraine’s EU path; Ukraine responded by banning entry to several senior Hungarian officers, intensifying a broader diplomatic dispute.>>> The Netherlands arrested two 17-year-olds on suspicion of spying for Russia via Telegram, highlighting continued recruitment and influence operations targeting minors.>>> The UK’s Foreign Secretary David Lammy reaffirmed long-term support: “We will stand with you today, tomorrow, and 100 years from now,” aligning London’s stance with stepped-up European air defense production.>>> Germany welcomed a U.S. approval to sell 400 AIM-120D-3 AMRAAMs (about $1.23B), while MBDA prepared Patriot-class missile production in Bavaria by late 2026 to double global output and shorten Europe’s supply lines.>>> Moldova’s electoral playing field shifted when authorities removed a pro-Russian party from the ballot days before voting, a move likely to affect turnout and coalition math.
>>517357268>>517357175>>517357065>>517356976zero engagement.its as if your spam doesnt even exist (it does, and its disgusting).
>>>517357353 (cont'd) Geopolitics & Economy>>> Ukrainian strikes on Russian refineries pushed oil benchmarks upward and strained Moscow’s fuel export planning, with refinery schedules and tax tweaks under review to stabilize domestic supply.>>> Kyiv and Bucharest advanced plans for joint drone production to replenish stocks quickly and build a regional manufacturing hub; Denmark pledged about €400 million to procure weapons from Ukrainian manufacturers for transfer to the Defense Forces, injecting capital into Ukraine’s defense economy.>>> The European Commission moved closer to backing up to €140 billion in long-term financing for Ukraine’s stabilization and reconstruction, aiming to anchor macroeconomic confidence during wartime.>>> Ukrainian Railways warned of delays and route changes after Russian drone attacks on transport infrastructure; energy companies simultaneously hardened grids as winter-season targeting resumes.>>> Analysts outlined three conditions for Ukraine’s victory—continuous long-range supplies, unified Western policy, and a resilient economy—while some in Washington and allied capitals urged rapid scaling of aid to avoid strategic drift.
>>517357386catty as always, BLACKEDheimer
>>>517357447 (last one)Society & Policy in Ukraine>>> Ukrainian authorities rescued 17 children and teenagers from occupied territories and began reunification and rehabilitation; officials stressed case-by-case documentation to support future accountability.>>> Kyiv City Hall said over 40,000 drones have been delivered to the Armed Forces this year under municipal programs that also train operators and fund anti-drone measures for critical sites.>>> After waves of Russian airstrikes, regional administrations in Chernihiv and other oblasts reported power disruptions and accelerated network repairs; civil defense urged residents to follow shelter and blackout protocols.>>> Public remembrance in Kyiv and frontline communities honored lives lost in the battle for Bakhmut, with leaders vowing the city will return to Ukraine’s control through sustained military pressure and international support.
14:1. How is ruccia supposed to compete against HATO nazi-biolab grown banderite supersoldiers?
As a result of kiev regime's futile attempt of attacking our oil pumling station......an oil pumping station has stopped working.
>>517357651>Society...... in Ukrainetrannies will be believe anything nowadays.
TeeZeeDee BTW
>>517349293>Moscow's supply of natural resources and its defense industry could become "strategic backup for China."It's very simple. If Ukraine wins this war, China will not attack Taiwan. Their slave Russia would be too crippled and unstable to be any help and western moral would be soaring.
>>517357871Ohm finally, something has happened.
>>517357874Give them a reason not fo
>>517356577>Unlike you my flag is real, RajeshI'm American and White. Not Indian nor even of Indian descent. You guys have also accused me of being Russian, but that's false. You guys can't make up your mind on what false thing to call me, but I'm American, period.
reminder to filter the jeet niggers
>>517356976>a follow-on to the 9 August strikeThese finally starting to happen is amazing. There were obviously reasons why they couldn't start happening sooner.
>>517358200Then why you posted niggers torturing a ukrainian, jeet nigger
>>517349245>Russia is helping prepare China to attack TaiwanDo they really want help from a country that lost its fleet during a land war?
>>517359433>Then why you posted niggers torturing a ukrainian, jeet niggerWhy shouldn't Ukrainians be tortured and killed when they started the war?
>>517345937TZD
>>517359478They started the war by defending themselves?
>>517349245>more experienced airborne troopsu w8 m8
>I'm American, period.
>>517359478I know you're ugly, short, smelly brownoid
>>517359539How is doing genocide against ethnic Russians in Odessa and Crimea self defense?
>>517359622You are a subhuman khohol and Stalin should have finished you offThankfully, Putin is going to finish the job
>>517359638I fucking love dead ziggers bros
>>517359622you don't get it, it's actually quite normal for americanner from texaya oblast to shill for foreign ex-power at 2am in the morning
>>517359638How is imaginary dreamworld enforced with propaganda reality?
>>517359676>pray>ack yourself>go to hellwhat did he mean by this?
>>517359638Not happened. Should've at this point. t. Eastern Ukrainian
>>517359720>denying genocide Just like the genocide you're denying in Gaza, no one believes you retards anymore.
>>517359676Taller than you, stronger and white, it's more like you're a subhuman, jeet. Why you jeets are so short and ugly? And shave please your disgusting mustache
>>517359763>"shooting yourself in the head means you're winning" - poo tin, art of war
>>517359676are you still butthurt because kokols voted against your smelly nuclear program, ranjeet?
>>517359763I'm not denying your addiction to meth, only the psychosis you percieve as reality.
>>517359800You khohols are not even human. Stop talking to me until you become one.
>>517357268>Denmark briefly closed Aalborg Airport again after drone sightings and tracked a Russian warship near the edge of Danish territorial waters; Copenhagen increased air policing and naval monitoring with NATO partners.Haven't they had a second incident recently? Hopefully they are not shooting down the UAVs for a good reason. They're unknown and over their territory so if it's not a hostile military of another country doing it whoever that is can come and complain later.
>>517359821Khohols don't even have nukes because the US took them away hahaAnd now you're going to hit with one pretty soon
>>517359838>stooop talking to meeOr what, jeet? Why you posted how niggers torture a ukrainian?
>>517359838>"every russian death is necessary" - president of russia
Right>againI should probably get some sleep finally.
>>517359893Taking away their nukes is not as bad as baiting them into a war with a nuclear power and forcing them to keep fighting.
>>517359638>in this age of smartphones and cameras, may we see this "decades long genuine genocide" of ethinc russians (ukrainians are russians btw, well, they're malorussians, they're the same but different same, look it just werks, cumrade)>no, no you may not
>>517359901Khohols aren't people who cares
>>517359893kek you're right ranjeet, against all odds they are actually going to hit with one, directly on moskownow learn english
>>517359918My name is Commander Shepars, and I endorse this post. TZD.
>>517359893only rossiyan soldiers know how to KYS and set themselves on fire simultaneously
>>517359893Such a pity that the USA will collapse soon. China won btw.
>>517359962what is the point of smoking and taking a drink right before acking yourself?do they think they will respawn afterwards?
>>517359918They are. Just about 90 million more.
>>517359962Said a jeet nigger
>>517360068The so called Holodomor killed less hohols than the war you startedYou just want to die and give Russia free real estate
>>517359996so will Putin use the numerous jeet migrants as cannon fodder?, that would be hillarious.
>>517345937>Hungary says Ukraine's Zelenskiy 'losing his mind' after drone comment>KYIV, Sept 26 (Reuters) - Reconnaissance drones that violated Ukraine's airspace could have flown from Hungary to check the industrial potential of western border areas, Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said on Friday, prompting a mocking rebuke from Budapest.>"President Zelenskiy is losing his mind to his anti-Hungarian obsession. He's now starting to see things that aren't there," Hungarian Foreign Minister Peter Szijjarto said in a post on X.
>>517360167I think I have found a solution for the zigger suicide problem. Just don't give them weapons.
>>51736016714:1. To the last pidorusian, jeet and nork
>>517345937>checks picAnd you NAFO trannies still think you're the good guys/girls?
>>517360202>"President Zelenskiy is losing his mind to his anti-Hungarian obsession. He's now starting to see things that aren't there,"A weak and retarded response like this pretty much confirms Hungary is spying on Ukraine with drones.
>>517360045I feel sad for your cope to the point you fantasize about the chinese bugsoh how far the russians have fallen
>>517359638I happen to be someone from Odessa with the background of pro-Russian protest. Being a mentally ill silly student, I hanged around those Novorossiya guys for the "sacred mission" vibes. So here's what actually happened: they agitated whoever they could into making a protestor camp, then a team of armed people with Russian passports annoyed the fuck out of some ultras over internet, they arranged a meeting and an ultras boy was shot by a Russian. I mean he was an actual Russian citizen who was allowed into the country because we had no visa regulations with putinstan at that time. The ultras went on a chase for the offending group, and the offending group led them right to the camp with the civil protesters.And the juicy part? The organizer and his personal circle have left the camp a day before the event. They knew the plan all along and bailed themselves out to avoid getting boo-boos during the planned confrontation.They talked so sweet to us, that we are in this together, brotherhood and stuff, basically cult mentality established.And then they just used us as a human bait.
>>517360317I wish you a happy and prolonged soup line, mutt. You will need it.
>>517360289Hungary's FM has a higher IQ that the entirety of your political class combined.
>>517352208>no seat adjustmentThat's rough.
>>517359433>Then why you posted niggers torturing a ukrainian, jeet niggerI told you you're conflating me with someone else.
>>517346142niggers and sandniggers raping our kids in schools are the enemy, not ryssäs, Pekka
>>517360397Refineries status, taxes status, vat status, gas and oil export status, budget status, casualties status
>517360285You shills hiding behind vpns wouldn't understand self defense. The ultimate cucks. Submissive omegas, mistakes od nature. Your fathers should've drowned you. They still can.
>>517360403>be FSBnigger>spend missions on a zigger candidate in european country>they get banned right before the electionisn't it sad? so much work, all into nothing>Crawling.mp3
A lot of people in here saying the US will be a failed state soonI would like to ask my russian brethren what it feels like since you're already at that point?
>>517360523Pidorashka, hush.
>>517360544Don't post while having a meltdown.
>US will be a failed state soonKEKAREEKOOIt is already a failed state. China won, you lost.
>>517360507>saar it wasn't meee
>>517359457>Do they really want help from a country that lost its fleet during a land war?Experience is the best teacher. Taiwan is a NAFO puppet state. The way they respond to China's invasion when it comes will likely be very similar to the naval shit which Ukraine has done, because its the same ZOG entity that is the puppetmaster of both. So the thinking is likely to be the same. Russia can, therefore, provide China with invaluable information based on their own experiences in confronting this foe.
>>517360403Really? What a genius then, to deflect a diplomatic accusation with "hurr the other guy must have gone mad".Don't get me wrong, I still believe he might be the smartest zigger in existence with his 40 IQ. Lavrov would have just emptied a bottle and blame geese.
>>517360620or what, you brown trannies are gonna spam more CP?
>>517359622>I know you're ugly, short, smelly brownoidYou just make this random accusation at anyone with no proof. You also said that about me (also false).
>>517352208Do they also have an electric version? Seems like a good idea given the fuel lines.
>>517360654Why would China invade a territory that is internationally recognized as China?
>>517360590>stoop talking to meeeAnother jeet
Remember cauldrons in Glushkovo and Tyotkino btw?What did happen to them???
>>517360698He was courteous. What he meant is that Zelensky went insane from cocaine abuse.>>517360699Wait for the meltdown to be over before you post.
>>517360699Nice to admit you post CP
>>517360722>Why would China invade a territory that is internationally recognized as China?The same reason you'd have to invade Transnistria even though it is internationally recognized as part of your country. Learn the difference between De Jure and De Facto.
Fill me in on recent news. Where hohols were raped this time?
>>517345937Get the fuck out, your problem is nothing compare to the great replacement of white people, figure it out yourself or even better, help the rest of Europeans to throw mutts out of Europe
>>517360815Transnistria was never part of Romania dumb nigger.
>>517360701One billion jeets and many of them are pro russian, and you posted niggers torturing a ukrainian, hmmm
>>517360785what meltdown, comrade? I was just posting war content. I get that it's unpleasant for the losing side, but it is what it is.
>>517360861You are still visibly seething over me saying the Hungarian FM is smarter than the entire nigger-kike political class.
>>517360841on to the political topiclooks like interference into Moldovan election were a failureHow much money was spent there?
>>517360861Jesus Christ I gonna laugh hard in my mind when they kick your door out to drag you to war
>>517360861>He thinks Khoholstan is winningYour GDP is less than most African countries.Even Russia is richer than it was before the war.
>>517360958Richer in what, dead ziggers or burning refineries
>>517360932I wish I cared about Moldova enough to look into that. Why don't you tell me?
>>517360995in gasoline, of course
BWAHAHAHAHHAH
>>517360995Ukraine doesn't even have refineries.
>>517361048Rusia now too, problems?
>>517360699>cp spammer wakes upyou should be jailed for your cheese pizza addiction
>>517361031I see. Now when it failed, surrounding Ukraine's border with hostile countries was never a part of the plan.
This winter will be gooood.ZD
>>517361180Name one neighbor that likes you. Moldovans hate you ever since the early 90's when you fought on Russia's side against Moldova and Romania.
>>517361280I don't think anyone likes ziggers honestly. Even Belarusians. The only reason why some browns shill for you is because they just hate the west.
>>517360202cant wait for elections in hungary
>>517361253It will be boring. And nothing will happen.
>>517361345Buddy Ukrainians are just Russians with an accentYou are not even real country
>>517361345Seems to me that the truth upsets you. All your neighbors hate you regardless of our opinion on your mongol brothers from Russia.
>>517361345Wishful thinking.
Stats
>>517361369there's certainly way less happening when the cars can't move)
>The US Department of Defense has signed a contract with Textron Systems to supply a new batch of MSFV armored vehicles to Ukraine for $163.3 million.
>>51736139415:0 then?
>The US Department of War has signed a $15 million contract with Sierra Nevada to provide technical support to the Ukrainian Navy's anti-drone systems under the USAI program.
> Lockheed Martin is marketing its THAAD missile defense system to European countries as military spending surges in response to Russian threats, - ReutersTHAAD could be offered under Germany’s European Skyshield Initiative as an alternative to Israel’s Arrow 3 system.
>>517361394So, you are just a pidor on vpn.This is your future.
>>517361456Looks like installing Trump didn't work in their favour either. The last hope to finish the 3-day smo, gone.
>>517360898>>517360939>>517360958Kek, now THIS is some delicious seethe. Impotent one might even say.
>>517361402>ignore the opponent's points and just say that he is seethingI accept your concession, цигaн
>>517360958>Even Russia is richer than it was before the war.They can't possibly pay you enough to type brain dead shit like this.
>>517361568Analina Bareback is a mental midget compared to based Peter.
>>517361456Huh I didn't even know production stopped on those and they're restarting them for Ukraine.
GIRKINPOSTING>Former leader of the Donbas Russian separatists, Igor Girkin (Strelkov), responds from prison to President Trump’s recent statements about Russia. Girkin writes: “I read Trump’s latest statement (extremely harsh towards Russia), where he says that Ukraine can defeat Russia because Russia has turned out to be a ‘paper tiger.’ Unfortunately, I must agree with him on a number of points.” “Indeed, to fight for a year and a half against a country whose collapse everyone expected in three days, or at least three weeks, requires some explaining. Especially when that country is Russia — a country with such enormous potential, such a long military history, such important military traditions, and a large army.” “I still wonder: will anyone ever be held accountable for the fact that we went to war with a show-parade-type, ceremonial battalion army?” “Will anyone be held responsible for those stupid, reality-detached plans that led to serious defeats and enormous losses?”
>>517361667>>The problem is not that I thirst for blood or revenge. That is the last thing anyone should think about when the fate of their country is at stake. My position is this: if mistakes are not admitted, they will not be corrected. It is very bad when an error is not acknowledged as an error but is instead treated as an achievement, and the people who committed it receive awards rather than punishment.” “Apparently that is exactly why our Chief of the General Staff is being awarded yet another set of medals. And don’t you wonder for what? For our troops advancing in certain districts at a snail’s pace, only to lose the occupied territory due to the enemy’s counterattacks?” “Or for the general assessment that we will fall a year and a half behind the enemy in the field of unmanned aerial vehicles?” “We are already seeing strikes on our Black Sea Fleet bases. Where is that Black Sea Fleet that, a year and a half ago, supposedly completely controlled the Black Sea and its airspace? Where did that fleet disappear to so that the enemy can now strike Novorossiysk with unmanned boats and we are completely unable to prevent it? Or what is happening over Crimea? What is happening in neighboring regions where the opponent is striking again and again?” ▪ “In the end, who will answer for all this? One of our ministers was promoted — formally, perhaps, but still. One general was sent to Tatarstan as an adviser. And a third well-known commander continues in leadership and continues to receive awards. What on earth is happening to us? Something must be done, a solution must be found.” “If we cannot win the war, then maybe we should really get out of it? But our ‘partners’ will not allow that. We must think about how to force our ‘partners’ to themselves leave the war. Questions arise for our military leadership if they cannot do this...” “
>>517361667>>517361696>Overall, I assess the situation as extremely serious and steadily deteriorating. Unfortunately, I do not see any prospect of a quick victory over Ukraine, because nothing is being done to prepare for such a victory.”
>>517361610>they don't hate us because they hate Russians>we hate you regardless on our opinions on your mongol brothers from RussiaYour point was addressed and proven to be bullshit. I still wait for you to name one of your neighbors who likes you.
>>517361725you are on the left, I am on the right
Law banning glorification of Ukrainian nationalist Bandera proposed by Polish oppositionOh nooo, Poland banned Nazism - the very pillar of ukr civilization.
>>517360856>and you posted niggers torturing a ukrainianI did not.
>>517361667What is this "one and a half year" shit he keeps repeating?We're nearing year 4.
baking
>>517361781How many dead Romanians?How many dead hohols?
get in>>517361901>>517361901>>517361901
>>517361667>“I still wonder: will anyone ever be held accountable for the fact that we went to war with a show-parade-type, ceremonial battalion army?”No, that's why you'll rot in the gulag for tsar monke.>“Will anyone be held responsible for those stupid, reality-detached plans that led to serious defeats and enormous losses?”What humors me the greatest is that Girkin was likely a part of Ryzan Sugar and other black ops for monke and this is how he's being repaid.>My position is this: if mistakes are not admitted, they will not be corrected. Born into the wrong culture, wrong country and fought for the wrong people.>“If we cannot win the war, then maybe we should really get out of it? But our ‘partners’ will not allow that. We must think about how to force our ‘partners’ to themselves leave the war.>Be Russian>Stick dick into bear trap>DOOR STUCK.wavToo much of an opportunity. Russia has had plenty of offramps along with "just fucking leave." This is more on par with how can Russia end the war ("on favorable terms") AND save face in the process?>>517361714Could use more doom/10 but I crave for those tears.
>>517361509I wonder how much power does it need to operate. There are probably some large batteries in the rear.
>>517361667>a year and a halfI'm confused. Is he trying to memoryhole the duration of a war that is still ongoing?Or is he refering to the first time Putin acually called it a war?
>>517361995Probably could find public domain info on it, that's apparently LMADIS:https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/lmadis.htm
>>517361714>because nothing is being done to prepare for such a victoryAh, the classic russian mindset of the preparing for the best possible outcome
>>517362131It's probably the latter. He is not one for memoryholing >>517361861
