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With increasing interest in our kinds of politics from the political left we should have a place to discuss the progressive economics of Fascism which guide the nation beyond obsolete capitalism.

What you find is that is that a lot of what you already agree is on the agenda. Discussion is welcome including from Reactionaries trying to uphold the previous order, and from Communists who will screech about how it doesn't fit into their perfect vision of what theoretical socialism is supposed to be. Criticism is welcome as long as you are going to criticize what Fascist Economics actually are instead of creating an alternative version in your head to dismiss without discussion.

For a primer just read the Fascist Manifesto to get an idea of what Fascists were trying to achieve, though Fascism was largely developed on the fly so it evolved further as time went on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascist_Manifesto

Discussion on Falangist, Integralist, Social Credit, Huey Longism, and National Socialist economics is welcome too, and even the economics of Actually Existing Socialist states like China too given that since we are in good company we can drop the act and acknowledge that its just Fascism with better PR.

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No one here knows shit. Just go look at what the Chineses are doing and base it off that with White Christian flavors.
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bro print money and give it to megacorps, genius economics.
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>>518610556
Finnish fascists want to nationalize foreign datacenters.
They support UBI (only for finns ofc).
thoughts?
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>>518610556
Fascist and communist economics are basically the same, socialist. Funny considering how fascists think communism is so evil and corrupt.
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>>518610556
previous links kek
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>>518610556
200% Tarrifs on everything, both in and out, towards all other nations, forever.
National independence>short term wealth increase.
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I think it's an open question whether there is enough automation to support UBI at this time.
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Over here some gibs like student aid is literally one click away. You log in to the government website and click and the money starts coming. So there's no technical limitation. It would quite likely also save money. Since the entire gibs office could basically be shut down. Right now they still have physical offices and staff etc. that could all be let go. There's like 100 different gibs you can get and there's paperwork for all of them except the student aid. The bad thing about finnish gibs system is that it also encourages inaction. Since if you start working you lose access to the gibs, which in some cases might even decrease your overall income. UBI would eliminate this.
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>UBI
This concept always seems remarkbly similar to the Social Credit concept in Canada which was a response to the Great Depression. The idea is basically that rapidly increasing industrial production was not being accompanied by the ability of the workers in those factories being able to purchase what they produced.

The party had great success in Alberta, but as a conventional socially conservative party rather than having actually implemented their economic system as there was this super weird purged that occured where anyone who wanted to implement the economic system was removed after they won their first election. However despite never implementing their economic policy they generally governed well enough that people kept electing them.
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Tariffs without an economic plan to build up industry just results in economic chaos as evidenced by Trump applying them without thought.
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>>518610556
>Fascism beyond capitalism

A complete meme. Fascism is the end stage of capitalism, where capitalists are actually invited into the government. They even call their economic model 'corporatism'.
National Socialism offers a state beyond capitalism, and this is one of the major ideological differences between Fascism and National Socialism. Fascism is not a threat to capitalism whatsoever, in fact Australia unironically has a corporatist government to this day. National Socialist economics are literally the only system worth discussing, also it is painfully evident that OP was radicalised in HOI4.
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>capitalists are actually invited into the government
this is actually a genius move. how else to make them feel responsible for the government's workings? people only truly care for things they had a hand in creating or worked on, mere ownership is not enough to get one to care
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