Previous: >>522020337Day 1,369 – Daily assessment: https://understandingwar.org/analysis/russia-ukraine/#research▶Latest>Marco Rubio announces that the 28 point peace plan was a Russian document, not a US one>Zelenskyy discussed latest "peace" plan with NATO Sec.Gen and European partners>Zelenskyy says he won't betray Ukraine>Germany confirms long-range missiles to be acquired by Ukraine>Another Ryazan reFINEry visition + Kursk substation hits>Ukraine says it used an ATACMS on Russian territory>Refineries in Samara and Ryazan regions hit>Voronezh missile engine factory struck>Major Ukrainian Drone Strike Halts Oil Deliveries at Novorossiysk Terminal>Su-30SM crashed in Karelia, all crew dead>Flamingo flew to Tuapse + NOVOPUSSYISK was hit separately three times at once: port, oil storage, ammo dump.>The first Russian region announced an Internet shutdown until the end of the war>The US has frozen negotiations with Russia on normalizing relations>State Duma deputy Nikolai Arefiev announced that Russian citizens have “become impoverished”>Ukraine targets Russian energy facilities in Taganrog and Voronezh>Azerbaijan has now transferred to NATO doctrine, abandoning russian doctrine citing it as ineffective>'A powerful secondary detonation' — Ukraine confirms drone, missile strike on Russian Shahed base at Donetsk airport>Kostroma Power Station droned. Third biggest in Russia + Volgograd reFINEry also droned.>HUR + Ru rebels Chernaya Iskra destroy Russian missile equipment and radar in Kursk region▶Telegramhttps://rentry.org/telosint2023https://t.me/ukr_pics▶Intelhttps://t.me/DeepStateENhttps://odin.tradoc.army.mil/WEG (equipment explorer)https://ukr.warspotting.net (visually confirmed losses)▶Mapshttps://deepstatemap.live/enhttps://liveuamap.com/en▶DISPOSABLE SOLDIER (diary of a RU mobik)TOUR 1: files.catbox.moe/34fuhc.txtTOUR 2: files.catbox.moe/uj2wut.txtTOUR 3: files.catbox.moe/hmyd98.txtTOUR 4: files.catbox.moe/cdenxe.txt
>>522043496TZD
Its over for the little guy.
TZD
ukraine needs to last until the midterms, and then after the republicans get BTFO, perhaps the tard wrangler side of the trump administration gets the upper hand in that tug of war
>>522043681Two more weeks and ZOG will save zelenskys golden toilet!
>>522043681sadly there are ziggers on the democrat side too
https://files.catbox.moe/xed8ps.mp4>moscow gets bombed>rusnigs cheerkek
>>522043728was this last night?
>>522043727the few commie niggers that are unironic ziggers dont matter, the majority of them will support hohols just out of spite to the orange retard
>>522043847fair, midterms can't come soon enough
>>522043748should be
>>522043728Clown ass motherfucker sounds like Borat
air defence just cannot catch a break
>>522043681Most of the republicans are not ziggers, they're just afraid of falling out of favour with Trump. His presidency is one very important wake-up call for Europe. We need to realise that we also have leverage over the US and that we need to use it because the US is simply not acting as an ally anymore.
>>522044118Comically slow drones.
>>522043560Did he just age 10 years in one night?
>>522043728>whoa whoa whoa content BLYADmosque regime forgot that judeoshitmenian media people just sell content to the highest biddersoon judeoshitmenians will be selling the sights of muscovite popsicles to eager ukrainian audiences
>>522044264It's an absolute shit show. A genuine maniac in control of the world superpower.Hopefully he will be assassinated soon. Before he does untold damage to the world.There comes a time for more than talking. We are well past it.
>>522043496When will the pigkraine stop losing?
>>522044604When will you stop being a brown tranny communist?
TzD
>>522044264>His presidency is one very important wake-up call for Europe. Obama's was already that, but in a much softer form.
Did Zelenskyi sign the papers yet? 4 more days before Trump cuts everything off
>>522045095>Did Zelenskyi sign the papers yet?Yes, the Nazi Jewlenskike is already being transported to New Delhi to stand before the Multipolar Criminal Court for his crimes against 6 billion Donbass orphans.
>>522045095What's he going to cut off?
>>522045095damned jews always try to cut the foreskin
>>522045095he used it as toilet paper
Teezeedee>The plan was a Russian document Told you Trump wasn’t a zigger asset. Believe in MAGA.
What's the current status of the "peace plan"? Russian or American? Trump approved or not?
>>522045585How is he not a zigger asset when he's presenting a Russian document and demanding Ukraine agree to it?
>>522045818Nobody knows. It's clearly not going anywhere. Europe, the UK and Japan have already told trump to fuck right off. Diplomatically of course. If he keeps pushing it then he is likely to be assassinated. The stakes are too high for this type of faggotry from america.
>>522043496The Russians can drag a heavy machine gun Utes to an attic, but they can't ass themselves to collect combat footage while using the heavy machine gun. Amateurs!>https://files.catbox.moe/y6hh1c.mp4This Russian man was the squad leader of a 3-man team that provided a HMG support for an assault team nearby. Supposedly his position was detected by Ukrainian scout drones, and all three of them were wounded shortly after. The man said that after getting back on feet he decided to return to the frontlines, which confused some of his family members. His eldest son is proud of his dad though. Why do you think he is so happy to get back to the war?
I should also ask since it's been a while:POKROVSK STATUS?
>>522045095Cut fucking off what. Purl program is pay to play and his greedy ass is getting kickbacks from it. His time has not allocated a single cent in congress. There is intel on targeting info, but other euros connected to US networks will be providing ukranians intel. That and they have extensive networks on their own
>>522046126encircled and fallen
>>522046056West saw US seething so hard they bailed out fucking Stalin and allowed him to gobble up half of europe. Instead of doing the sane thing and letting hitler kill him while US/UK build up more potential to crash the overstretched and bled out germans when they were done.All of this because of a single delusional and overtly powerful POTUS and his small ring of shit advisors (sounds familiar). The world is not prepated for the lengths US simp complex goes for vatnikstan. Even as the latter mock them every day and dream about burning them to the ground
any hohol dog that serves or even supports american puppet regime is:a terroristfascistnaziscum of earth, they and and their every family member should only be killed. Hellspawn should be eradicated
When zelensky said that Kupyansk clean up is finishing he meant rusbros almost done killing his scum? pretty cool of him ngl
>>522038600>Any peace plan must stop killings while preserving Ukraine's sovereignty, be acceptable to both sides, and prevent war from restarting, US VP JD Vance said.Then what was the plan you just force-fed? The one US supposedly made?So it WAS fully russnigger written?See how confused and stupid this make you seem?
> Marco Rubio announces that the 28 point peace plan was a Russian document, not a US oneHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHHAHHA WHAT THE FUCK THIS IS THE MOST EMBARRASSING ADMIN IN HISTORY
>>522046507WHOOPS
>>522045095It's ok, Europe will step in to fill the gap I'm sure...
>>522046297For the 20th time too
>>522046126Day 23 of Pokrovsk being encircled and fallenNotice the blue benis in Myrnohrad btwHaha benis :DD-XD
>>522046563LMAO, and some retards doubted orange pedos ziggerism
Кaк cocётcя, пидopaшки?
>>522046654Hopefully the guys in Myrnohrad can safely retreat.
>>522046126>>522046654Anons, how do we cope with the fresh news? This is tragic and shocking!
>>522046907amk coping cant dissapoint
>>522044118>"Zelensky you have no car-*ACK*"
>>522046907Just wait until the the blue area is handed over without a shot being fired. That will be more shocking.
>4 more Pokrovsk captures until ChristmasWhat will you guys get? Im probably getting some tools to work on my apartment. I love my mom.
Poland's PM Tusk:>Together with the leaders of Europe, Canada and Japan, we have declared our readiness to work on the 28-point plan despite some reservations. However, before we start our work, it would be good to know for sure who is the author of the plan and where was it created.Which just means "lol fuck you" in diplomatic language.
>>522047105orange cuck will say he dindu nuffin and blame on the witkoff jew once again
>>522046907They said this 23 days ago. Ukraine still maintained the City Hall and most of the stuff at and North of the railway station on the 21st. At its current pace, Russia cannot have possibly suddenly taken the rest overnight.
>>522047021Don't you have a corner shop to open?
>>522047135>>522047105I thought Trump was a master deal maker, did he get cucked by Putin? Literally publishing his plan verbatim.
>>522047170They're called paki shops round my end, m8. You a posh cunt?
froozing status?
>>522046126Actually russians left the college by themselves once they noticed it was pedagogical instead of pedogogical as first reported.
>>522047282>You a posh cunt?Yes.
>>522045585unfortunately ziggers rejected our 29th point of the peace plan, which is retreat of all zigger forces back into russia and public execution of monke via a bayonet up his ass
>>522047164Mirnograd update:Ukrainian-Russian war. Day 1368:Situation on Mirnograd & Pokrovsk fronts: During the last two days, Russian army has taken complete control of the northern dachas of Pokrovsk. The city is now under complete Russian control, but the official announcement will not be made until the end of the mopping-up operations.In addition, Russian forces continued to advance eastward along the railway line and the locality of Rivne (much of which has been captured), allowing them to enter the Brianka district northwest of the city of Myrnohrad.Moreover, in the last eight days, Russian troops have managed to regain some positions in the centre of Rodynske. Fighting with Ukrainian army continue inside the town.
>>522043560It's cold outside. Does potuses doesn’t not alowed towear winter hats?
>>522043496Destroy PucciaDeplete MoscowDelete Putin
>>522047214Trump wants this Ukraine "nonsense" to be gone asap. Since Ukraine is in weaker position, sociopath Trump will of course push Ukraine to give up in order to secure quick "win" for himself and his 38% approval rating lmao. He aims only to get the fuck out of this thing since he is weak retard with incompetent retard administration with no understanding of geopolitics (apart from Israel good mentality - literally florida boomer diagnosis). Thing is the rest of NATO and pretty much all of US allies told him to fuck off (disregarding the traitor 5th columnist non-factor countries such as Slovakia and Hungary). This grinder will continue well after his presidency ends and I fucking hope mutts send maga republicans packing cause holy shit with this chief tard we get montly new episodes of american humiliation series
>>522047366Dark Elves are raritiesNATO deploys them to stop puccian orcs
>>522043496>>State Duma deputy Nikolai Arefiev announced that Russian citizens have “become impoverished”Heh but weren't they poor before?
>>522047444do you support ukraine?
>>522047317>give warmthon its way
>>522047690Yes.
>>522047617Who gives a shit about russian citizens, lmao? Certainly not the russian government. Now if the headline would be that Moscow/St. Pidorsburg dwellers have "become impoverished" now that would have been "concerning" indeed.
>>522047617They've officially run out of banan>Anglin is a retard
>>522046677Reality us of no concern, they add their headcanon and proceed as if nothing happened: >>522045585
>>522047719cant be posh and also be a traitorous ukraine supporter.You cant be posh and also engage in luxury beliefs of the plebians.
>>522047366SCHOKOELFEN UUUOOOHHHHH>nose ringy tho
>>522047720>Who gives a shit about russian citizens, lmao? Certainly not the russian government. Now if the headline would be that Moscow/St. Pidorsburg dwellers have "become impoverished" now that would have been "concerning" indeed.Aside from the extreme amount of dead ukrainians watching russia light itself on fire because putin's ego couldn't take dying with no accomplishments will never not be funny. Such a dumb thing to destroy two countries over.
>>522047831it's a dark elf thing
>>522047790>traitorousLeast obvious russian shill on VPN.
why does this garbage internet forum keeps changing the id
>>522044377Forgot his bronzer
>>522046606>1st Guards Tank ArmyDo they mean these guys?
>Ukraine's military reportedly struck the Shatura Thermal Power Plant in Moscow Oblast overnight on Nov. 23, Russian Telegram media channels reported.froozing status zissies?
>>522047773>>522047956>>522048025>>522048061>ukrop scared of the power of the global south Shaking status ?
>>522043728he sounds like hes absolutely drunk and hes having the time of his life
>>522047317Eurofrozing bros, frozing status?im in t shirt with 24°C absolutely froozing
>>522047555Wow, I'd bang her (no hetero)
>>522047483Nice eigo.Yuppies don't really cover their heads, and Trump especially only wears his MAGA caps if he's gonna wear anything.Blade of Miquella at least knows to cover up.
>>522048427Swear loyalty to the destriftion of puccia to recieve a biologically female democracy lover warbride
>>522048427the thought of ukies spreading their genes, even to a negress, is beyond tolerable.the disease must be contained.
>>522048487The US isnt cold enough to warrant wearing hats in the winter.Especially when you're wearing a suit.Also, I would like to remind the lowly finns they arent supposed to be commenting on the habits of their superiors.A good rule of thumb is to just not ever mention us. Keep us out of your mouth.
>US budget allocation for servicing debt: 6%>Russian budget allocation for servicing debt: 5.8%>US Treasuy 10Y yield: 4%>Russian OFZ 10Y yield (RUB): 14.6%literal fucking Zimbabwe
>redditspacer jeet
>>522048534She just needs to get so much cum inside her every day, that the dna of sperm would mix with her dna and make her whiter.
>>522046452>puppet regimeZelenskyy was elected by the Ukrainian people in 2019. Ukraine was scheduled to have another election in 2024 but Russia decided to invade Ukraine and now holds part of Ukraine's land. Ukraine has a law saying that an election can't be held when martial law is in effect. I guess there is some sense to this - it won't be possible to set up polling stations in the Donbas, for example, because it is under Russian occupation.
>>522048877>Zelenskyy was electedin much the same way Biden was "elected."getting so sick of UK lesbians running their mouth.
>>522044118>Ivan just park the emergency truck beneath the power lines what could possibly go wrong
>>522048974>getting so sick of UK lesbians running their mouth.Feel free to share you pain with your cousins Suckdeep and Prakesh.
>>522048974If elections were rigged, than pro-russian man would 'won'
>>522048974Yeah Biden was elected. Why are you still have a tantrum about that 5 years later?
14:1
>>522048974Zelenskyy and Biden were both elected by winning free and fair elections, yes. Unlike Putin.
>>522049098>Yeah Biden was elected.it doesnt surprise me you are this retarded.I mean, you are "wear a helmet to boil water" levels of retarded.
missile threat in donbabwe
>>522049216You realise Trump lost in 2020 right? Yet you still feel the need to get on your knees and suck his cock.
>>522043496somebody tell selensi to take the deal, no more brother wars, no more dead brothers, husbands, and fathers, enough is enough. thoughts and prayers for ukraine
>>522043496urinians winning in 2 weeks?
>>522049287>You realise Trump lost in 2020 right?Just so we can seal the deal on this, I would like to ask you one question.In your opinion, who was the US president between the years 2020 - 2024?
>>522043560is Trump really this short?
>>522049296No. Total Zigger Death.
>>522049226
Fella’s fella’s, even if the vodka chimp and orange monkey collude to fuck Ukraine, let us take heart in the fact that Ivanstan has done unfathomable generational damage to itself, and the century of Ivan suffering hasn’t even gotten to the really bad parts yet.
>>522049373Sorry I can't hear you, your voice is muffled because Trump's cock is in your mouth
>>522049425
GOOOOOOOD MORNING THE SHATURA!!Friendly Ukie munition visit one of the oldest power stations in THE RUSSIA: Little information about it: Shaturskaya GRES named after V. I. Lenin.A thermal power plant with an installed electric capacity of 1,500 MW.One of the oldest power plants in Russia. It was built in 1925 during the implementation of the GOELRO plan. It originally ran on peat; now its main fuel is natural gas. It is part of the generating company OJSC OGK-4.https://files.catbox.moe/zunhvo.MP4https://files.catbox.moe/sq6fyr.MP4https://files.catbox.moe/am0q2o.MP4https://files.catbox.moe/vsctvb.MP4https://files.catbox.moe/in6wl0.MP4https://files.catbox.moe/zo9ass.MP4https://files.catbox.moe/fjebgr.MP4
lussia right now
>>522049487Noooooo! Not like that......
Very SMOOOOKIN
>>522049526too late
>>522048974so are you saying that Poroshenko should've won???
>>522049609His handlers didn't tell him who Poroshenko is.
kellog went full zigger btw
>>522049500This one is my favourite with the vodka female >Blyat! Sooka! Pizda!https://files.catbox.moe/in6wl0.MP4
>>522049463the tranny immediately reverts to being a coward.cant even answer a simple question....and you were so sure of yourself too.
>>522049655Kellogg can't do shit. It doesn't matter what he says at this point, he'll be leaving in January anyway.
>>522049686heh their reactions are so predictable. It's always this
>>522049756I like the genuine "HOW COULD THEY!" as if katsaps weren't doing this for 4 years
>>52204982412 years at this point.
>>522049858I meant actively trying to freeze an entire nation
More videos from Shatura. FACKIN' beautiful: https://files.catbox.moe/oygejt.MP4https://files.catbox.moe/pn27hp.MP4https://files.catbox.moe/7d058c.MP4https://files.catbox.moe/by7bqj.MP4https://files.catbox.moe/oz8ni0.MP4https://files.catbox.moe/4wvzfp.MP4https://files.catbox.moe/ec68mk.MP4https://files.catbox.moe/8xb1ea.MP4
>cofi status?
>>522049882>tryingThe US suffers a years long generator shortage because Russian "attempts" to freeze ukraine are so successful.Just to remind you trannies, ukraine isnt worth it.
>>522049926a trashcan fire.the trannies are once again celebrating acts of minor vandalism.How much land has Russia taken from ukraine this week?
The cube hungers.
>>522049373Trump was the US president in 2020. He was the president until January 6, 2021, when after having lost the election, he attempted an armed coup to keep power. His attempt failed and Biden was president after.
Fresh wriggling zigger. https://files.catbox.moe/8qchls.MP4Description per source: Made some extra holes in the illegal immigrant from the swamps. He didn't care much for such procedures, and now he has to lie there soaking in a state very similar to alcohol poisoning, which is so comfortable for any Russkie.A week in the hospital and he can go back to storming FPVs with his snout.
>>522050121you thought to yourself that pedantry might save you?it wont.
>>522049926Thanks, a few yebats in there
More info on overnight raids: Nighttime raid by the Defence Forces of Ukraine across the occupied territory and the nuclear understate. Strike UAVs hit:Donetsk region: explosions and fire were recorded in the area of the Zuivska TPP or a nearby substation.City of Torez, Donetsk region: UAVs hit infrastructure objects.Shakhtarsk, Donetsk region: UAVs struck the "Yuzhnaya" substation.Starobesheve, Donetsk region: confirmation of UAVs and explosions, likely on energy objects.Raid by the Defence Forces deep into the territory of the RF: explosions in Ryazan. The Governor confirmed an attack on a facility and a fire, but did not specify which one.Occupied territories of Crimea and the Zaporizhzhia region: explosions also rang out.Moscow region: strike UAVs hit the Shatura GRES [State District Power Plant] with a capacity of 1500 MW; a fire is recorded at the facility, and dozens of videos of objective control are on the net.And this is only what was caught on objective control. As we know, the damage is always significantly greater.We await the General Staff report - it will be very interesting.
>>522046126And yet they will need to evacuate for the application of the peace deal KEEEEK
>>522050208I don't get it. Are you saying Trump did not attempt an armed coup on January 6 after having lost the US presidential election?
>>522046606>Another example of a tyrant being misinformed because his subordinates are scared of telling him bad news*yawn*Monke is not an original one
>>522050445>an armed coup on January 6calm down Rachel Maddow.
More Shatura CAHNTENT, apparently the raid was still ongoing as of 11 AM Kyiv time. Very nice: https://files.catbox.moe/1so9n6.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/kjszi1.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/hgpams.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/qrge50.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/uup27u.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/o945xc.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/civ4zi.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/qcsxbf.MP4https://files.catbox.moe/m3djam.MP4https://files.catbox.moe/oh8uux.MP4https://files.catbox.moe/c4op9p.MP4
>>522050495Is this the migger shield of denial of reality?
Russian Drone Strike on Dnipro Injures 15, Ignites High-Rise FireA Russian drone attack on the central Ukrainian city of Dnipro overnight has injured at least 15 people, including an 11-year-old girl, and sparked fires in a residential high-rise, regional officials reported Sunday.Vladyslav Hayvanenko, the acting head of the Dnipropetrovsk Regional Military Administration, confirmed that the assault damaged a nine-story apartment complex, causing balconies to catch fire and shattering approximately 200 windows across five residential buildings."After the night attack, 15 local residents sought medical help," Hayvanenko stated. Three adults—two women aged 52 and 64, and a 48-year-old man—remain hospitalised in moderate condition with head injuries and smoke inhalation. The remaining victims, including the child, are being treated at home.According to the updated operational report, air defence forces intercepted 15 drones over the region. However, falling debris and direct impacts caused significant damage, affecting not only the high-rise but also a private residence, an infrastructure facility, and several vehicles.The strike on Dnipro was part of a broader wave of attacks across the province. In the Synelnykove district, two people were wounded in the Vasylkivska and Zaitsivska communities, while repeated shelling and FPV drone strikes in the Nikopol district injured three others, including two teenagers aged 14 and 16.
Today aerial chimpout numbers.
Protesters Rally in Washington Against Trump's Ukraine Ultimatum and Epstein HandlingDemonstrators gathered in downtown Washington on Sunday to protest President Donald Trump’s administration, focusing their anger on the newly unveiled peace proposal for the Russia-Ukraine war and the government's handling of the Jeffrey Epstein investigation files.The rally comes just days after the White House presented a controversial 28-point "peace plan" to Kyiv. Drafted by U.S. envoy Steve Witkoff and Russian advisor Kirill Dmitriev, the proposal reportedly demands that Ukraine cede the Donbas and Crimea to Russia and limit its military personnel to 600,000. President Trump has set a deadline of Thanksgiving, November 27, for Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to accept the terms.Protesters contended the plan amounts to a forced capitulation. "Trump just sold Ukraine," read one prominent placard, while others carried signs stating, "You either defend America or Trump – you can't do both."Tensions were further inflamed by the President's signing of the "Epstein Files Transparency Act" on Wednesday. While the legislation mandates the Department of Justice release documents related to the deceased financier within 30 days, critics at the rally expressed scepticism, citing potential loopholes that could protect influential figures named in the files.Demonstrators also cited ongoing operations by federal immigration authorities as a driver for the unrest, carrying signs calling for impeachment with slogans such as "Impeachment for their asses! Hold the line!"
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>>522043496>that one random zigger with that laser pointer Lol>bubble boy says the peace plan was a russian document not a us oneWhaats da diferance¿
>>522046563Isn't is suspicious how exactly at that time out of every hole russian "experts" crawled out saying how bad it is to keep supporting further and that Russia already le won?To build a certain narrative? Interesting how it all comes together and is predictable and basic It was all a third world shill campaign once again
>>522048647Noo not like this!!
Russia liberated Europe from the OttomansRussia liberated Europe from NapoleonThe USSR liberated Europe from HitlerHas Europe forgotten?
>>522051262retard
>>522050495kek we have a true maga npc here
>>522051262do they not teach civics in France or what
>>522051262
>>522043496I just came here to tell you that in order for you to sign the deal next week you will have to wear a suit and tell thank you afterwards.you know.. just some basic manners you disgusting animals.
>>522051262Russia is a fucking shithole that is out to enslave Europe and make everyone miserable slaves, like the Russian people within their borders. They have no concept of freedom, they're fucking out to stomp the soul of humanity.
>>522051324>>522051349>>522051368disprove piggersDo you prefer a ottoman or nazi europe rather than cooperation with 80% white trad Russia ?
>>522051435froozing status? kekaroo
>>522051463>Russia is a fucking shithole that is out to enslaveNo russia liberates europe, it never enslaves it.Today we can hope it will liberate us from the borsch-liberal reich>concept of freedomRussian know liberty is conquered by strength, as seen in this war for malorossiyan liberation.
>>522043847What’s weird is that generally right and left support Ukraine. It’s this weird schizo element that seems prominent in the current admin that really loves snowgeria. I’m pretty right leaning and my extended family in some cases pretty left. We all generally agree that Russia needs to go back to Russia. It’s hilarious to see an elderly former hippie talk about needing to ensure TZD.
>>522051262can it liberate us from russians? pidor-cuck nation
>>522051545>russia>never enslavesLol.
>>522051479>>522051545Is this a joke, or are you just on a VPN?
>>522051714He's an almost white rapefugge
>>522051714He is a brown piss drinking nigger from Maghreb, not actual French.
>>522051262>Russia liberated Europe from Napoleonwhy would you ever write such a thing.its also not true. The french were fatigued from war, and wanted an end to it.No nation or coalition of nations were capable of defeating Napoleon in his own backyard.The french abandoned their emperor.
>>522051545>unironically claiming that the Russians are liberators when they bathe in the blood of those they conquer and inflict endless torture upon innocent people.
>>522051571The right was all for russia thanks to: mah joos, mah tax dollars, mah constitution, no forever wars, zelenskike and even nazis.The left as a result opposed the right, so they supported the Ukrainian cause.Except that propaganda only worked on NA, , specially in latam where everyone is suffering under russia`s errors (socialism, ruskie myr, mass sodomy, god hating and so on).Russia propaganda was very good, it even conviced me in the first year of the war, but as time passes lies fades, now as grok showed, only actual disgenic shitskins support russia because they are paid.
>>522051571It's not so weird. The only people who unironically support pidors think of them as some kind of cleansing fire who can press the restart button on their society which they failed to succeed in - so billions must die/suffer.It's not so surprising then that they also typically support garbage politics which usually advocates for ritual slaughter of the newborns of the people they don't like.
>>522051755Oh. So it’s someone who has literally no clue what Russia has been doing to Europe for the past couple centuries. My fuck. I still don’t get how these people lack basic pattern recognition.>Russia attacks a neighbor>it’s other neighbors join NATO>Russia attacks another neighbor>more of Russia’s neighbors join NATOHow is this hard for them to understand? Jfc. Just stop invading your neighbors and NATO expansion stops.
>>522051545Stuf habib and got back fucking your cousins, go make momo proud.
>>522051714I'm just educated in history.I know, hard to understand for a subsiervent goy, especially an american one.
>>522051870>implying they give a shit about any of thatThey know they are lying and are using language as a weapon This is the reason free speech doesnt exist in russia , china , north korea etc
A Ukrainian delegation, likely composed of key officials, is set to take part in new talks on the U.S. “peace plan” for ending the war.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992189771322376578?s=20
alll russophobic dickhead got is racism and shitty images
Was this posted already?Zigger special forceshttps://files.catbox.moe/qamwdq.mp4
The Netherlands have just announced they will donate their entire fleet of state owned busses to speed up the bussification. “The BUS must become the apex predator of Ukraine similar to what the Train is to Poopjeets” one Dutch official was quoted as saying.
>>522052009Russia’s Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov says talks are underway for a next meeting between the Russian and U.S. presidents. Moscow expects the U.S. to create “proper conditions,” while Washington claims it “understands” Russia’s demands—skepticism remains.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992192160502821105?s=20
>>522052023yes some burger even posted it with a translation
>>522051791Yah. That stands to reason. I’ve seen three groups that like Russia. There’s actual Marxists/communists, people that just want to see whitie die, and the schizo demographic. Note there’s some overlap.>>522051834Well, they DO have good propaganda. I for example was willing to accept in 2014 that Crimea was that important to them and was ‘traditionally Russian’ despite the clear illegality of the invasion and the extant ethnic cleansing Russians imposed on the peninsula. Of course this invasion had me eating crow and just admitting all the Eastern Europeans were right.>>522051849True. I guess I fit the ‘billions must die so I can get a date’ types into the schizo demographic but it might be a distinct one.
>>522051958>>522052022Silence, shitskin
>>522051958So you know about the Circassian genocide, the Crimean Tatar ethnic cleansing, the massacres of Polish and Baltic civilians, the crushing of basic sovereignty of all of Eastern Europe, and a list of other atrocities too long to type out?
>>522043496 foreground Russhit flag, Background a gas station burning, what other metaphors do you need?A Rosneft gas station in Valuyki, Belgorod region, was destroyed by a drone strike, causing a massive fire visible across the city. https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992194174259527884?s=20https://files.catbox.moe/q37cbb.mp4
>>522051980True. It’s just very alien to see basic conversation as a weapon like that. Feh. Hopefully they fuck off.
>>522051795Napoleon was a corsican usurpator gnome-churka. They abandoned their emperor before.>MUH FREEDUMB
>>522052284>Hopefully they get executed where they standFITFY
>>522052009Negotiations will take place in Switzerland with U.S. and European participation. The main topic is the terms of a future peace agreement, Umerov said.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992197936608899442?s=20
>>522052327I accept your correction as a moderate and correct position.
The HUR reported that the released individuals in Belarus held pro-Ukrainian views. Spokesperson Andriy Yusov said the operation was carefully prepared and carried out once the opportunity arose.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992214142732714401?s=20>Ukraine has returned 31 civilians from Belarus, including men and women sentenced to 2–11 years in prison. The youngest is 18, the oldest 58, and some are seriously ill. The Coordination Headquarters thanked the U.S. and Donald Trump for helping secure their release.>https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992189375170625776?s=20
Ukraine will meet with partners to discuss steps to end the war. Zelensky announced he has signed a decree approving the Ukrainian delegation and all relevant directives.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992215964255932904?s=20
>>522043560Funny since they don't even sell us equipment directly KEK
>>522052319>usurpatorYou're basically saying Napoleon should be criticized for taking power away from a parade of effete, lesbian french elite.That wont work.>gnome>muh manletthe entirety of europe was scared shitless of this supposed manlet.
>>522052054Russia is getting desperate. Now is the time to really turn the heat on them.
When will mosqueovia stop losing?
>>522043496 Nothing but brown holding russia up, but no-one ruzzia posting from it>>522049950 full mug>>522052585>Russia is getting desperate. Now is the time to really turn the heat on them.heat?, I want the cold,digging frozen Ivan's out in MarchX’s new “About this account” tool reveals that dozens of pro-Russian and MAGA accounts with tens of thousands of followers, long posing as American or Russian, are actually created and run from India, Bangladesh, and other South Asian countries.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992225451297898597?s=20pic 1https://files.catbox.moe/v5cxi5.jpgpic 2https://files.catbox.moe/d04bcc.jpgpic 3https://files.catbox.moe/gnbxo9.jpgpic 4https://files.catbox.moe/2aqkim.jpg
>>522052717>X’s new “About this account” tool reveals that dozens of pro-Russian and MAGA accounts with tens of thousands of followers, long posing as American or Russian, are actually created and run from India, Bangladesh, and other South Asian countries.pic 2
>>522052515I'd pay for that. Ultra should also include vpn russniggers
>>522052042Top kek
>>522043791Who's back do you have to scratch to get through a war guarding dead bodies?Even living hohols are ten a penny
>>522052717>posing as American or Russian, are actually created and run from India, Bangladesh, and other South Asian countries>>522043496What a Brown status
>>522052774no one can check the origin of ukraine supporter accounts because the entirety of NAFO evacuated to bluesky some time ago.that should tell you everything you need to know.
>>522052847For a half Pali, you’re really in favor of imperialism.
>>522052847>>522052839>>522052817>>522052805>>522052778How does /uhg/ justify this?
>>522052839>>522052774>>522052717You've never heard of a VPN?
>>522052847 curry spacing?>>522052839>>522043496 Sceond Best Army in the Whold World....... MEAT>none of them can run or stand up straightRussian contract soldiers of the “new generation” keep impressing their commanders with their top-tier fitness and skills. Fully “ready” for the next assault.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992235930300936365?s=20https://files.catbox.moe/kvqg2p.mp4
>>522052955So that makes you support Russia killing white people?
>Da mal am Fett grabbeln
>>522051571>Russia should go back to Russia It is.
>>522052955Irrelevant, but what compels jeets, gypsies and other brown people to go around with their shirt half open like this? You can see this guy isn't even ripped. What kind of "sexy" do they have in mind?
>>522053009 X show's if you're using a VPN, it's got a little Shield Icon, meaning VPN>>522052459Ukraine, the EU, and the US will meet in Geneva on Sunday to discuss Trump’s “peace plan,” DPA reports.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992237424576250227?s=20
>>522053050Who watches this garbage.
>Washington Post: “Under the European proposal, no restrictions would be imposed on Kyiv’s armed forces, according to a copy of the deal obtained by The Washington Post. Ukraine would regain control of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant and the Kakhovka Dam, and enjoy ‘unhindered passages’ on the Dnieper River and control of the Kinburn Split. Other territorial disputes will be addressed after a ceasefire, the proposal says.”>Bloomberg similarly reports: “Ukraine and its European allies will insist that discussions with Russia on any territorial swaps can only take place once the war ceases along the current line of contact, according to people familiar with a counter-proposal that will be presented to the US later today in Switzerland.>Their response to the US 28-point plan asks for a security guarantee from Americans that mirrors NATO’s Article 5 mutual-defense clause and demands that frozen Russian assets be used to reconstruct and compensate Kyiv, according to the people who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss private deliberations. They reject Moscow’s demands that Kyiv cede unoccupied territory in the east.>Furthermore, the US would be compensated for the robust guarantees it provides and Russian assets would stay frozen unless Moscow agrees to pay for the damage it has caused.>Other sanctions would be lifted in phases and Russia would be progressively let back into the global economy if it abides by the deal…>The people said a higher cap [on the AFU] could be negotiated. Ukraine has previously said it needs an army of at least 800,000 troops during peacetime.>Many other clauses proposed by the US, including the return of all hostages, including children, would be acceptable. The plans would need to include a family reunification program and provisions to address the suffering of the victims from the war, the people said.>Any agreement would be monitored under US supervision and guaranteed by a peace board chaired by Trump.”
>>522053050no
>>522053145sourceshttps://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/11/22/trump-zelensky-russia-plan/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-11-23/ukraine-seeks-nato-like-shield-from-us-counter-proposal-sayssuffice to say that even if the Americans accept this you just know the Russians will reject it yet again, so all a big fat nothingburger
>>522053134You wouldn't understand the joke I am making yet I cast it into this void nonetheless!(I just found it funny and decided to share it)>>522053154>diqq ellllfööööän
>>522053016Special forces know how to act like a broken man. It helps you survive.
>>522053023No. It just makes me feel bad for the Ukrainian men forced to fight for a country that doesn't give a fuck about them.
>>522053145>Any agreement would be monitored under US supervision and guaranteed by a peace board chaired by Trump.”hahaha
>>522053107From what I understand, some people are starting to find "dad bods" more appealing.
>>522053229Alright, I remember seeing threads about this show on /a/ back in the day, but I couldn't really go into one and ask that question.
>>522053092True that.>>522053245Then you must really feel bad about Russians.
>>52205314528-POINT FRAMEWORK FOR SECURITY AND STABILITY IN EASTERN EUROPE(Prepared by your long-suffering AI assistant who apparently now drafts treaties)1. Full withdrawal of Russian forces to internationally recognized borders.2. Recognition of KPR and BPR as independent, demilitarized buffer entities under UN interim administration.3. Russia’s active-duty military capped at 600,000 personnel, verified through international monitoring.4. Sanctions remain until a reparations mechanism for Ukraine is fulfilled and independently audited.5. Russia transitions to a non-nuclear posture with irreversible warhead dismantlement overseen by the IAEA.6. Ukraine receives binding NATO security guarantees with accelerated integration protocols.7. Multilateral framework established for Ukraine’s long-term nuclear deterrent under strict nonproliferation oversight.8. Joint Border Security Commission deployed under OSCE supervision.9. Comprehensive cyber-nonaggression pact with mandatory attribution and penalty procedures.10. International Reconstruction Fund for Ukraine financed by frozen Russian assets.11. Restoration of Ukrainian control over all energy, logistics, and communication infrastructure previously disrupted.12. Russian information operations in Ukraine and Europe prohibited and independently monitored.13. Demilitarized corridor around Crimea for phased reintegration negotiations under international observation.14. Black Sea maritime access regulated through new NATO–coastal state security protocols.15. Russia’s access to global financial systems contingent on verified compliance with all provisions.
Poland’s Karol Nawrocki comments on Trump’s peace plan, saying any deal must start with a simple truth — Russia breaks its own agreements. He adds the plan needs Kyiv’s approval and warns that peace cannot come at the price of Moscow’s goals.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992248170630529504?s=20>"Karol Nawrocki comments on Trump’s peace plan" Nawrocki who seems like a complete dick back up Ukraine, Trump sold the Russian surrender terms on his own, then pressured Zelensky with a deadline using all of the White House stuff, Can you imagine what European leaders are thinking? except Orban and Fico of course, who Backed Trump/Putin!
>>522052947To the brown mind, USSR/Russia will always be anti-imperialist as it opposes the imperialist west.
>>52205333516. ICC-led war crimes investigations proceed without obstruction.17. Large-scale POW exchange executed under Red Cross monitoring.18. Ten-year moratorium on Russian missile deployment west of the Urals.19. Updated regional arms-control treaty with modern verification technologies.20. Permanent humanitarian corridors maintained year-round.21. Binding dispute arbitration handled by a panel of neutral states.22. Gradual reestablishment of diplomatic relations, conditional on compliance.23. Full protection and restoration of cultural property across affected regions.24. EU-overseen renegotiation of all energy transit agreements.25. Multinational demining initiative launched across conflict zones.26. Russia commits to noninterference in Ukrainian political processes.27. Long-term monitoring mission empowered to publish public compliance reports.28. Ukrainian recognized as an official language within Russia, with phased implementation across federal institutions and public education systems to encourage bilateral cultural integration.
>>522053295Well, this is the first time for me seeing this show
>>522053304Russians are mostly volunteers.
>>522049707You're a transvestite? Okay but how is that relevant to this thread?
In Ternopil, rescuers found two more bodies on the fourth day of clearing the rubble after the Russian attack, bringing the death toll to 33, Ukraine’s emergency service reports.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992249421569130630?s=20
>>522053341Yah. They really love the Soviet Union. Of course they never had to live under it, but since when has that stopped them from supporting whitie getting offed in response to something we stopped doing?
>>522053416Oh, so no problem with them getting mulched by cluster munitions? Same.
>>522043496Ukrainian Special Operations Forces shot down a Russian Mi-8 in Rostov region using an FP-1 drone — the first time a Russian helicopter has ever been taken out mid-air by a deep-strike UAVhttps://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992253533102673988https://files.catbox.moe/akc5y4.mp4
>>522052847I checked all of my subs and they're based where they're supposed to be, no lying shills.
>>522053550How many Ukrainians are you willing to sacrifice chasing your dream of TZD?
>>522053145Pidors won't agree, TZD must continue.Nevertheless, it's appalling that the EU do not have a dedicated channel of finance for the Ukrainian military built already which those frozen funds could be used for. Using Russia's frozen funds to get it going should be done ASAP irrespective of getting monke's permission.Not one penny of the frozen $300B should be used for reconstruction imo. All of it should fund Total Zigger Death right now and not be used as leverage in future negotiations, it should already be considered forfeit. Reconstruction should come after the pidors agree to stop dying and payments come from ordinary tax collection.Ukraine can agree to pay back the $300B if and only if Russia pays it tenfold in reconstruction fees + interest.What the EU, and GB, is proposing here is to actually minimise Ukraine's military capability which could be greatly enhanced with this funding. That frozen sum is larger than the entirety of European and US aid to date. Were Ukraine's military to be financed using this money, the negotiating position would be far stronger.
On the Kostiantynivka front, Ukrainian forces struck Russian logistics. Phoenix operators hit an armored vehicle, a truck with 2 jammers, 2 quads, 2 vans, 3 cars, and 5 Russian troops.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992256271895155065?s=20https://files.catbox.moe/3chacq.mp4
>>522053636None. I don’t want a single ukie to die. I just know Russia will kill them if they don’t fight it off. So what else is there to do? It’s sad, but there’s nothing to be done. You have to fight an aggressor seeking to murder you.
>>522043496Ukraine's 93rd Mechanized Brigade repelled a Russian armored assault near Kostiantynivka, inflicting significant personnel losses on attacking forces in the southwestern sector.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992265068453712161?s=20https://files.catbox.moe/q2gat6.mp4
>>522053697>I just know Russia will kill them if they don’t fight it off.What makes you think that?
>>522043681>>522044415Man, this whole surrender plan bullshit directly fed up by the ziggers to the administration, word to word, is alarming. We can see rival factions inside the US apparatus fighting each other to get access to a president with the attention span of a 3 years old child so they can make him validate the dumbest shit possible before someone with an IQ over room temperature notice it.I'm not sure you realize the level of dysfunction we're witnessing and the decadence of the entire state apparatus.Well, I know (You) realize it, but the burgers just sitting there and doing nothing tells me they don't realize it. Which is even more pathetic than the clown circus we're seeing in the administration.This is fucking grim.
>>522043496 Brutal Ukrainian forces from the Rubaka unit halted a Russian assault advance near defensive positions, likely in the Pokrovsk direction.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992270807138197912?s=20https://files.catbox.moe/6fi0do.mp4
>>522053793Burgers are so fucking stupid it's insane. If Fox News doesn't report it, it basically doesn't exist.
>>522053636>>522053697I think Ukrainians should be able to decide for themselves to fight or not. If they don't want to fight anymore and they want to negotiate a ceasefire with Russia then okay. Or if Ukrainians do want to fight, and they want better weapons to do so, then I think we should give them the better weapons that they want.
>>522053778Russian state media, past Russian actions, Russian stated goals, and present Russian policy.
>>522053843I concur. I just see no evidence that the Ukrainian people want to surrender to Russia.
>>522043496 Faggot Trump>>522053340>Trump sold the Russian surrender terms on his own, then pressured Zelensky with a deadline using all of the White House stuff, Can you imagine what European leaders are thinking? except Orban and Fico of course, who Backed Trump/Putin!Trump says his Ukraine peace plan isn’t final. Asked if it’s the ultimate offer, he replied no. He also noted Zelensky can keep fighting “as long as he wants” if Kyiv rejects the plan.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992288191467139249?s=20https://files.catbox.moe/p2crah.mp4
>>522053778Oh, you know, having eyes and the mental strength to keep them open and observe the horrors.
>>522053909European leaders meet US officials in Geneva on Nov 23, pushing back on at least four points of Trump’s Ukraine peace plan. Key objections: territorial concessions to Russia, cuts to Ukraine’s army, and US control over frozen Russian assets worth €300B.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992290709324357633?s=20
>>522050960>>522050019Classic
>>522053895I don't know what the polling is but you might be right. Also if Ukraine is given better weapons by the West then it would mean fewer Ukrainian soldiers being put in danger. If Ukraine could use long range missiles to attack Russian infrastructure then it could bring an end to the conflict more quickly. And if Ukraine had more money for even more drones then that might protect Ukrainians on the front lines.
Reports say Torez in Donetsk Oblast was hit, likely by the “Southern” power system – 330kV line affected.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992293477804040651?s=20pic 1https://files.catbox.moe/vot0l1.jpgpic 2https://files.catbox.moe/a69py6.jpg
>>522053460I hate them so much.
>>522053909the whole thing is basically witkoff/vance dangling a shiny nobel in front of trump so he said yeah push whatever is in that document I didn't read at all. only for the response by literally everyone but orban/fico being so bad they're backpedaling while pretending not to backpedal
>>522054016Explosions were also reported at a thermal power station in Krasnodar.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992293481440809354?s=20https://files.catbox.moe/ah6cuy.jpgLocal residents also reported a glow near the Zuhres thermal power station area.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992293485899350210?s=20https://files.catbox.moe/6msis3.jpg
>>522054005Yah. Regular raids on Moscow and Petersburg for example? That would help. So would the ability to blast rail bridges along the trans Siberian. Then there’s just hammering their whole energy network, not just the oil supply. That would be very possible with more western support.
>>522053632This brings up an interesting point to think about.ukraine supporters believe the internet is also battlefield and they are they "soldiers" fighting an information war.The fact ukrainians and their supporters had to flee the global public square and run to bluesky means this is yet another battlefield your kind has been routed from.A pattern emerges.
What $300B could buy. Obviously this exceeds production and inventory.Puts into perspective how strong Ukraine's hand could be if we freed up funds to strengthen their long-range arsenal.
>>522054021 everyone does >>522053460>Forces of unmanned systems. 20-11-2025 'For Ternopil! Burn in hell!'
>>522053843>I think Ukrainians should be able to decide for themselves to fight or not.Clearly many don't want to fight, which is why nearly a million are in hiding and men have to be dragged out of cars and grocery stores to fill the ranks.>>522053850>>522053910Russians love Ukrainians. Putin has said he sees the two as "one people", but that Ukraine deserves to exist as an independent state if that is what Ukrainians want. There is nothing that's been said nor done that suggests Russia wants Ukrainian genocide. Check out this piece; it addresses a lot of the common myths about the war: https://www.theamericanconservative.com/mearsheimer-europes-bleak-future/
>>522054123>The fact ukrainians and their supporters had to flee the global public square>The factFaggot, what are you talking about? My timeline is full of TZD.
A substation in Dokuchaievsk, Donetsk region, was also attacked.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992303171469791342?s=20>16hhttps://files.catbox.moe/bpsccy.mp4
>>522053979kek
>>522054219A substation is burning in occupied Shakhtarsk, Donetsk region.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992303757808357381?s=20pic 1https://files.catbox.moe/xyecy1.jpgpic 2https://files.catbox.moe/3jenkp.jpg>>522054160>>522054123you two asshole are holding on to a paper bag in the Rain
>>522054160Putin lies a lot. This is Russian state media discussing how they want to handle the Ukrainians. Note that the countries that border Russia view it as a threat. Events like Bucha and the Russian terror bombing campaign further prove this.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Russia_Should_Do_with_Ukraine
>>522054160Anon, how many times does Putin have to say "I reject your peace, I will continue this war until I achieve total victory" for you to understand?That's a rhetorical question, of course.
>>522053611>>522043496 Hunting in RussiaFootage shows an attack on a Russian helicopter filmed from another drone. Some Ukrainian Telegram channels report the hit aircraft was a Mi-28 rather than Mi-8.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992313772523003947?s=20https://files.catbox.moe/1e2kfl.mp4
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>>522054314>holding on to a paper bag in the RainIs this a Ukrainian idiom?>>522054346This is an opinion piece and doesn't represent the views of Putin nor the Russian government. >>522054360Putin would be willing to engage in good-faith peace negotiations, but the US has shown time and time again they aren't serious about peace.Think about this from Putin's perspective. Why would we suddenly decide to end the proxy war?
i can bake again, should i add the shatura power plant strike to the latest?
>>522054553It’s published in Russian state owned media, was mirrored by Medvedev, and is thus absolutely, and one hundred percent the views of Putin and thus the view of the Russian government.
>>522054217It's called 'confirmation bias'
>>522054553>Why would we suddenly decide to end the proxy war
>>522051262Ta gueule Boubacar
>>522054109Whether the West will keep supporting Ukraine is a question though, and I guess we'll see the answer in the next few days. If I were to bet then I might guess that the US will end support for Ukraine, because people like JD Vance might convince Trump that the US has no interest in helping Ukraine (I think that's false, but it seems to be what people like Vance believe). And I would guess that Europe would try to keep supporting Ukraine, but if they are left to support Ukraine by themselves, I bet there would be a lot of arguing between European countries while they figure out what help they can provide.>>522054160>Clearly many don't want to fight, which is why nearly a million are in hiding and men have to be dragged out of cars and grocery stores to fill the ranks.I think men in Ukraine are being pressured to give their details to the military, rather than necessarily to go to the front lines. But anyway, yes some men don't want to join the military, I read a BBC news article about it. I hope Ukrainians do get a choice about whether they fight or not. But surely if the West provides better weapons to Ukraine then it will allow Ukraine to defend itself without forcing many Ukrainians to make a difficult choice of whether they go to the front lines or not. E.g. if missiles can be used to destroy Russian oil facilities, which would harm Russia's invasion, then it might end the conflict sooner, and many Ukrainians who might otherwise go to the front lines won't have to.
congressmen are pissed off over the clownshow we had seen the last few days
>>522051262>Russia liberated Europe from Napoleonhe post this with a french flag. Nice try Ivan.
>>522054734I still can’t figure out what Vance’s damage is on this issue. He just seems butthurt about Europe in general.
>>522054622if you wish.. it's mostly notable cause it was in moscow oblast with supposedly strong air defense
>>522054760They're not even being subtle, kek
When will the Ukraine retake the donbass? In another 11 years? And why would it matter if russia made the peace plan, they are the ones winning. Your copes are very retarded and make no sense whatsoever. Ukraine is losing and doesn't get to make demands lmao. Why would russia concede anything?
>>522054625If this were the case, Russia wouldn't have initiated peace talks just a few days into the war.
>>522054553>Putin would be willing to engage in good-faith peace negotiationsThat's good. Then he will be willing to withdraw his military from all of Ukraine (Donbas, Crimea, and every other part of Ukraine), and he will be willing to pay massive reparations to Ukraine (from his personal fortune, estimated to be large), and he will be willing to submit himself (and his government) to a war crimes trial in The Hague. These things would be absolutely necessary as part of any good faith peace negotiations.
>>522054861Lol why would they do that when they are the ones advancing. You retards make no sense, and just spout off the most idiotic demands that makes anyone with a brain think you're utterly insane.
>>522054859Russia didn’t initiate peace talks. Russia uses diplomacy as a weapon to achieve Ukrainian surrender. Russia doesn’t recognize the sovereignty of its neighbors. Taking what they say at face value is always a terrible idea. Hence why they went on this rampage in the first place.
>>522053016Theyre all dead right
>>522054861Anonymous (wZxvao2C) Sun 4/29/1945 08:15:24>That's good. Then Stalin will be willing to withdraw his military from all of Germany, and he will be willing to pay massive reparations to Germany (from his personal fortune, estimated to be large), and he will be willing to submit himself (and his government) to a war crimes trial in Berlin. These things would be absolutely necessary as part of any good faith peace negotiations.
>>522054796Maybe he doesn't understand that the USA benefits from having Europe as a strong ally>>522054830>When will the Ukraine retake the donbass?This is why our countries should help Ukraine more. If we help them more, then Ukraine will be able to defend its land.
>>522055046Lol you're a fucking retard. Go back to Ukraine and fight your own fight, because no one thinks you're British
>>522055046I dunno. I think it’s more personal than that. It’s like the existence of Europe offends him and I just can’t get why his panties are in such a twist about it. He’s naturally a kind of bitchy, catty little guy, and Europe really seems to trigger him.
>>522054922I'm saying that if he's willing to engage in good faith peace negotiations then that's what he would do. But if, like you claim, he doesn't want to engage in good faith peace discussions, then we should probably provide more help to Ukraine, so they can better defend their country.>>522055039We're talking about the invasion of Ukraine, not WW2
>>522055125>>522055125>>522055125
>>522055119You're mentally retarded then, the good faith agreements were attempted in Minsk. Ukraine didn't want to accept that eastern Ukrainian Russians wanted to use the same political violence western Ukrainians used TOO BAD YOU LOST
>>522054830>>522054922Retard-kun, the Russians have experienced total governmental collapse, revolution and regime change four times in the last hundred years.It would be pretty logical to conclude that we are in the pro-dromal state of a fifth Russian collapse; all of the signs are there.So pushing forward might buy Putin himself a little time, but the internal purges, civil wars and balkanizations are coming.We've already seen one civil war so far
>>522055239>our only hope of victory is that russia collapses Ok keep hoping then
>>522055299Ignore the patterns if you may, but things are only going to get worse for Russian internal stability, and this war is many years from ending.
>>522054796I believe that Vance wants Trump to focus on addressing problems in the US knowing that being distracted by foreign policy is going to hurt them in the mid terms.Rubio has always been pro-Ukraine. He's more in line with Kellogg.The longer this drags on, the more obvious it becomes that the only way to end this is going to be to unleash Hell on Putin and make his murderous ass come crawling to the negotiating table, which he'll never do. He'll burn Russia, what's left of it (just Moscow and St. Petersburg) all the way to the ground.
>>522054745>with input from the UkrainiansLiar.
>>522055106JD Vance hates Europe for our freedoms. He hates that you can openly be critical of israel here.
>>522054745timmy wont do shit
