Previous: >>522085022Day 1,369 – Daily assessment: https://understandingwar.org/analysis/russia-ukraine/#research▶Latest>Tremendous amount of progress in the Geneva talks with Ukraine, there are a couple of issues we need to work on, none of them are insurmountable, we just need more time than we had today. I honestly believe we'll get there. - Rubio>Shatura Plant in mosquew oblast got hit by drones>Rubio announces that the 28 point peace plan was a russian document, not US one>Zelenskyy discussed latest "peace" plan with NATO Sec.Gen and European partners>Zelenskyy says he won't betray Ukraine>Germany confirms long-range missiles to be acquired by Ukraine>Another Ryazan reFINEry visition + Kursk substation hits>Ukraine says it used an ATACMS on russian territory>Refineries in Samara + Ryazan regions hit>Voronezh missile engine factory hit>Major Ukie Drone Strike Halts Oil Deliveries at Novorossiysk Terminal>Su-30SM crashed in Karelia, all crew dead>Flamingo flew to Tuapse + NOVOPUSSYISK was hit separately three times at once: port, oil storage, ammo dump>The first russian region announced an Internet shutdown until the end of the war>The US has frozen negotiations with russia on normalizing relations>Duma deputy Nikolai Arefiev announced that russian citizens have “become impoverished”>Ukraine targets russian energy facilities in Taganrog + Voronezh>Azeris have transferred to NATO doctrine, abandoning russian doctrine citing it as ineffective▶Telegramhttps://rentry.org/telosint2023https://t.me/ukr_pics▶Intelhttps://t.me/DeepStateENhttps://odin.tradoc.army.mil/WEG (equipment explorer)https://ukr.warspotting.net (visually confirmed losses)▶Mapshttps://deepstatemap.live/enhttps://liveuamap.com/en▶DISPOSABLE SOLDIER (diary of a RU mobik)TOUR 1: files.catbox.moe/34fuhc.txtTOUR 2: files.catbox.moe/uj2wut.txtTOUR 3: files.catbox.moe/hmyd98.txtTOUR 4: files.catbox.moe/cdenxe.txt
PEN STATUS?
>Joint Statement. U.S.–Ukraine Meeting of 24 November 2025>On 23 November 2025, representatives of the United States and Ukraine met in Geneva for discussions on the U.S. peace proposal. The talks were constructive, focused, and respectful, underscoring the shared commitment to achieving a just and lasting peace.>Both sides agreed the consultations were highly productive. The discussions showed meaningful progress toward aligning positions and identifying clear next steps. They reaffirmed that any future agreement must fully uphold Ukraine’s sovereignty and deliver a sustainable and just peace. As a result of the discussions, the parties drafted an updated and refined peace framework.>The Ukrainian delegation reaffirmed its gratitude for the steadfast commitment of the United States and, personally, President Donald J. Trump for their tireless efforts aimed at ending the war and the loss of life.>Ukraine and the United States agreed to continue intensive work on joint proposals in the coming days. They will also remain in close contact with their European partners as the process advances.>Final decisions under this framework will be made by the Presidents of Ukraine and the United States.>Both sides reiterated their readiness to continue working together to secure a peace that ensures Ukraine’s security, stability, and reconstructionso they'll make a peace deal that's actually decent which Russia will no doubt immediately reject kekgood ol' TACO
Small wonder street shitters support Israel and Russia. Holy fuck.
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ALCON: The simplest way to spot shills/discord trannies is by their inability to post jewpills and holohoax content.It's proven even more reliable than 'post hand' and 'denounce the talmud'
>>522093932And fin.
>>522093712Special Operations Forces operator conducted reconnaissance and clearing of a factory in Kupiansk, eliminating a Russian occupier during the operation, Ukrainian SOF reported.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992665916849492212?s=20https://files.catbox.moe/nbzw1l.mp4
Air defense systems activated over Anapa in Russia.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992671834706502001?s=20>4hhttps://files.catbox.moe/rk0tsk.mp4
TZD
>>522093898>>522093932>>522093971>Wall of textBrownoids and other niggers can't in to space, all are projecting victimhood and willingness to occupy Europe to leech from for generations and hordes of descendants.Yeah, nah, fuck shitskins, let them live on what they build/create back in asia and africa
Talks began between US and Ukrainian delegations with European representatives participating.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992677122003865639?s=20>4h
>>522094394It's a wall of text alright, but it explains eminently how India and Russia are long lost spiritual brethren.
>>522094446>with European representatives participatingcan one really "participate" from the cuck chair?
>>522094446US Secretary of State Rubio called today the most productive day in a very long time and said he has not seen any European counter-plan, while Ukrainian NSDC Secretary Umierov broke a pen during heated talks defending Ukraine's positions.https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1992688884615156094?s=20video https://files.catbox.moe/plr97p.mp4
>>522094525Doesn't seem to stop you.
>>522094746>while Ukrainian NSDC Secretary Umierov broke a pen during heated talks defending Ukraine's positions.Poor pen, it didn't deserve to die in the hands of a zigger>>522093836
>>522093712i remember that mission. kek
>>522094525You might know a lot about that, since you are a redditor
>dindu
Driscoll doing the 56% face
>>522095161are you telling me there isnt an SFB News department for reddit?the czech lesbians just entirely ignore reddit, huh? im sure this is the case.You're on bluesky, but not reddit? sure thing.
>>522095372>goes full reddit
>>522095228I volunteer to rape her through cocaine withdrawal, back into sanity.
https://x.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1992640996216017317The crux of the entire diplomatic situation is that it was Russia, and only Russia, that started this war, and it is Russia, and only Russia, that has been refusing to end it throughout the full-scale invasion. From the very first minutes of February 24, Putin has been waging this war with complete disregard for how many of his own people he loses and how many of ours he kills. Russian commanders are not merely inclined to act brutally – they receive explicit orders allowing them to kill however they please. That is why Russia’s war is so bloody, taking lives both on the front lines and in peaceful Ukrainian cities. That is why Russia not only kills adults but also abducts children and tries to re-educate them so that they will take part in the war once they grow up. Russian commanders are now sending into assaults against Ukrainian positions those who were still in elementary school in 2014, when Crimea was occupied and Russia’s hybrid aggression against Ukraine began. This is a long war, and the main thing Russia is trying to do is to preserve its ability to wage it even longer, and not only against Ukraine. That is why we appreciate so deeply that so many forces and leaders are working for peace right now. Ukraine is grateful to the United States, to every American heart, and personally to President Trump for the assistance that – starting with the Javelins – has been saving Ukrainian lives. We thank everyone in Europe, in the G7, and in the G20 who is helping us defend life. It is important to preserve the support.>part 1
>>522095458Complete with reddit spacing
>>522095526Holy shit, Monty? I thought they got you
>>522095549>The crux of the entire diplomatic situation is that it was Russia, and only Russia, that started this war,It is important not to forget the main goal – to stop Russia’s war and prevent it from ever igniting again. And to achieve that, peace must be dignified. In just this one year alone, Putin has already sent hundreds of thousands of his own people to their deaths in order to occupy one percent or several percent of Ukrainian territory. And this is what Russia is doing – a country that already has more internationally recognized territory than any other state in the world. This nature of the war, and Russia’s attempts to prolong it, show that for them this is not about territory or about how one neighbor or another behaves toward Russia, but about Russia’s “right to wage war,” its “right to subjugate” others, and a fundamental absence of security. That is why we work so carefully on every point, on every step toward peace. Everything must work out the right way – so that this war is truly ended and so that it does not happen again. Thank you to everyone who is helping! Thank you, America! Thank you, Europe! I am proud of our people. Glory to Ukraine!>part 2
>>522093898>>522093932>>522093971so basically, indians are women
>>522095590most slavs are pale-skinned niggers
>>522095590Because of this furry faggot, and Turks that shanked locals, I get frisked while feeding stay cats now.
>>522095720Kek. Nice montekitters
How the "peace" deal gonna go?
>>522095711Only worse.
>>522095829Everyone is going to pretend they're pro-peace to shit on opposition. Conflict goes on as before until one side collapses (current leader: Russia due to low oil prices)
>>522095829Will be forgotten in tumor weeks, just like the minerals deal and Alaska shit
>>522094025Fair point. I do think Europe should do more to stand on its own two feet though. And like I say, if America gets better leadership then Europe and America can very likely have a strong relationship again.
>>522095720>I get friskiesedftfy
>>522095912'murica keeps switching between red and blue all the time. not a trustworthy ally and not worth to depend on
>>522095829Russia might invite Americans for more talks to stall and the war will continue as it is.
>>522096085I don't think Trump has much Red support currently.
>>522095829the russians will reject anything that isn't 28 point tier capitulation, the americans will then quietly accept this rejection with no spergouts like cucks and we'll go back to the same situation as we were in. Well at least until one of the ziggers in the white house acts up again anyway
>>522095829Regardless of how the dumb gullible clown market behaves, I'm buying 20K€ of Rheinmetall tomorrow at the open. That's how these memetalks talks are going. For the 4th time.
>>522096126but still it's an impressionable shitshow. it's like having a BPD partner for stable moral support
>>522095549>>522095613The President continues to ignore that it is Russia who invaded Ukraine & bombing cities every night. Putin ordered this invasion. Why the moral confusion?The war started before Trump’s first term. I’ve heard President Zelenskyy thank America many times for our military aid.https://x.com/RepDonBacon/status/1992610612741075054?s=20
>>522096324Trump will buckle under popular opinion, which is in favor of supporting Ukraine. It's evident.He gaslit Epstein files release until majority of congress voted for it then Trump did 180°
>>522093712You know, I would not be surprised if there were instances of cannibalism going on in Ukraine right now.
>>522096386>AAAA GIVE ME NOBEL PEACE PRIZE BECAUSE OBAMA MOCKED I WOULD NEVER BE A PRESIDENT ONCE!Hilarious.
>>522096408if i was Zelensky, i would continue the war until the end of Trump's presidency only to deny him that peace Nobel prize he wants so much. Trump desperately wants to be remembered for something
>>522095997They think I'm dead-dropping drugs or something then see "mecka prahu jela" dried cat food in my bag and look at me all blank.
>>522096575He ain't getting the Nobel Peace Prize, ever.
>>522096575Trump needs to be appeased on face value. Then you do whatever the fuck you need to do. Swiss excelled at that. Sign the deal that Trump would enjoy parading to electorate back home, and then do your own thing.
>>522096386Based. Forever war is on
>>522096733
>>522093712When will the pigkraine stop losing?
The tail end of last thread went over my head. I don't really understand what threat Russia poses to the rest of Europe that Europe sans USA isn't ready for. I'm not being arrogant and saying it doesn't exist, I just don't get it.Are they not a depleted force after fighting in Ukraine? We know that they didn't bother sending any reinforcements to Assad this time last year so their forces were depleted then. Is it the case that they've gotten stronger since last year and they would be able to spare forces for a second front?What ability do they have to start a second war in the Baltics before completing their objectives in Ukraine? What about if we assume the Dim-Wit deal passes and look ahead to 2030? Wouldn't Europe, including a reconstructed Ukraine, have rearmed sufficiently by then?
>>522095912>if America gets better leadership then Europe and America can very likely have a strong relationship again.The future leadership of european nations will largely be Trumpian in nature.Meaning the lesbians you love to vote for will be out of a job.Its not us that will change, it will be you.
>>522096386congress neeeds to step in and prevent the president doing any more negotations with russia, hes being blackmailed and cannot be trusted with this
>>522096575A guy deporting people left and right, taking steps to install an autocracy and waging economic war against his allies is never getting the Nobel prize, no matter how many wars he ends, especially if he strongarms the attacked side into submission. Add to the mix Trump directly threatened Denmark, Canada, Panama and Mexico with war to annex territory from them.
>>522096955spiritually indian post
>>522096866I will try to TL;DRUkraine is cohesive nation adept in drone warfare fighting for its life.Europe is disconnected accumulation of nation states with loose treaties and inefficient, slow inter-nation bureaucracy.If Ukraine was anything like EU, Russia would exploit that disconnect and confision and conquer it in 2 weeks like it planned in 2022.Europe is not ready for 21st century high-paced drone warfare. Russia is somewhat ready for it, Russia has already lost European oil & gas markets and Kremlinoids keep power as long as war goes on.China needs war in Europe to go on too, it might opt to support Russia more.= Russia might attack Europe when EU MIC equals RU MIC in production and there's no reason to wait anymore.
>>522096866militarily probably not a threat, but they can still do terrorism like theyve already done in the UK
Zelensky here. Patriots we are gathering our belongings, and me and my Tyrone`s will be leaving Ukraine soon for my Hotel and Casino in Honduras, of course this and my 4 Billion came from American Aid money. I will lay in the sun take nigger dick up the ass and smile as this shit hole in Kiev burns to the fucking ground. Z
>>522096866Better be honest, if you actually white?Is pussya white?When are you going back?Thanks!
>>522097065https://nationalsecurityjournal.org/training-for-a-war-without-drones-ukrainians-slam-polish-military-courses/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTV6xy-hlSk
>>522097247That is what I base my opinion of, yes. EU military is not training for 2025 drone warfare.
>>522096866The real danger is A) nukes, B) Unironic meatwaves of North KoreansThe theory I've seen floated around is Putin might prompt a response from NATO to mobilize, well, pretty much everyone and focus the most of his forces back into Ukraine, with token forces protecting the borders, because it can be assumed NATO wouldn't full on invade Russia.
>>522097371EU have not even legalized border-crossings for NATO logistics. If Russia invades - EU bureacracy would be bogged down to respond in time. They are working on MIC & NATO logistics but intertia is too fast. Russia is coming under existential threat from economy angle same as Ukraine from military angle, so it is becoming more determined and desperate. Europe is living peacefully while Moscow powerstations are being blown out as we speak. It's different mindset.
>>522097065I agree with all of that except this bit. Well not the tense of it.>Europe is not ready for 21st century high-paced drone warfare.Europe isn't ready now you're right, but why can't it become better prepared in the future? Is the speed at which Europe can learn drone warfare necessarily slower than the speed at which Russia can lick its wounds and reconstitute its forces?
>>522097293If you were to think about the history of planes and their usage in war, drones are still in the biplane phase. When I thought about it some more, it might not be worthwhile for a country to change up doctrine to include something that is so in flux uncertain in the direction it will take.After reading those articles, I was hoping we werent in the same position and we had some broader plan or capability no one knows about.Its unlikely this is the case.
>>522097533>Europe isn't ready now you're right, but why can't it become better prepared in the future?Of course. But fast enough? Russia wasn't ready. It took time and massive losses to become ready.>>522097539You'd be right if drones weren't being massively proven in combat as we speak and US military shifting to fast-paced drone-packing recon approach e.g. in pacific with their armor-less buggies full of drones. Next Leopard and General Electric MBT prototype? Carry loitering munition launchers = drones.Everyone is making "birdshot" ammo for battle rifles and machine-guns too.
