>Nuclear is uneconomical>nuclear takes a gorillion years to build>nuclear waste problem has not been solved>in the time you build a nuclear plant you can install much more solar and wind>SMRs are meme vapourware>nuclear has the most catastrophic failure mode of any human technology (take a look at Chernobyl)>constant ongoing decomissioning/maintenance costs. cannot leave them unattended or you have nuclear meltdown catastrophe. meanwhile nothing happens with solar or windSolar mogs that slop hard.
>>528322848Your opinion doesn't matter
I agree.
Solar can't power a town and is barely enough for a single family home.
>>528322919True, only the people in charge's opinions matter. And they're all in on solar. They realized nuclear sucks.
>>528322848>nuclear wasteNo such thing, buddy.
>>528322848>came to check flaglol what is it with leafs and their dogshit opinions
>>528322848>>in the time you build a nuclear plant you can install much more solar and windB-b-but miga trump daddy said green energy is a scam
>>528322848You made this same copy paste shit thread yesterday and I'll copy paste my fucking reply. >Nuclear is uneconomicalWhy do you retards keep saying this. Why does Indian plan to build 100 GW by 2050 and China 300 GW by 2050. Why did is Japan restarting all it's Nuclear Reactors and looking to build new ones if it's all so damn uneconomical. >nuclear takes a gorillion years to buildAnd operates for 50~70 years. Speed it up. There a reason why it takes so long. It's you people.>in the time you build a nuclear plant you can install much more solar and windWhere the batteries at to keep it functional like Nuclear 24/7>SMRs are meme vapourwareMaybe.>nuclear has the most catastrophic failure mode of any human technology (take a look at Chernobyl)The worst fucking possible scenario and literally nothing happened.x1000 people have died in the current Ukraine/Russian war.>constant ongoing decomissioning/maintenance costs. Wind turbines literally cost x1000 per MW in maintenance cost compared to Nuclear. Still profitable.>cannot leave them unattended or you have nuclear meltdown catastrophe.It's not the 1950> meanwhile nothing happens with solar or windExcept you also have to decommison them like Nuclear and are left with pollutants that might be recyclable in the future just like nuclear bur aren't economical to recycle now. I MOG YOUR MOM.
>>528322991the people in charge torture children
>>528322848You’re fucking retarded. Do you know how many square meters of solar panels it takes to match the output of an average nuclear reactor?You would need 10^8 square meters of solar panels. Or 100 square kilometers. Do you have any idea how massive and expensive that is to maintain? You’re a fucking brain dead dumbass that fell for the “green energy” scam.
>>528322848You forgot to post this link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtQ9nt2ZeGM
>>528322991Meanwhile everyone else is building nuclear that actually need more baseload power.All the AI fags are in on Nuclear. All the Chinks and Indians.
>>528322982objectively false
>>528322848>Nuclear is uneconomicalNot really.>nuclear takes a gorillion years to buildOnly because government wants paperwork of every screw in triplicate and then loses the paperwork, starting the progress again from the beginning.>nuclear waste problem has not been solvedIt has been solved, but most of the governments are unwilling to implement the solutions.>in the time you build a nuclear plant you can install much more solar and windBecause cutting down the national forests in order to slap fucking panels on top of those is a good solution. Not to mention ruining the beaches with loud as fuck bullshit.>(take a look at Chernobyl)Commie issue not nuclear. If those cunts had focused on solar panels, they would probably have managed to burn off the whole atmosphere on the planed.>meanwhile nothing happens with solar or windSome of the biggest fire catastrophes have been caused by those.
>>528322848>>Nuclear is economical>Nuclear is cheap>Nuclear is safest energy source>nuclear waste problem has been solved>nuclear takes a gorillion years to build>because of gov regulations and oil industry paid lawyers.>>nuclear has literally ZERO history of catastrophes.>take look at Chernobyl , it wasn't a nuclear explosion.>Chernobyl was a REGULAR explosion of a reactor version 1.0 that wasn't nuclear explosion.>Chernobyl was regular explosion that threw STEAM into atmosphere.>Modern reactors are version 3.5 and 4.0 and 10x-50x safer>Solar mogsSolar and wind is BELOW SURVIVAL.
>>528322848No matter degenerate cucknadian with a country filled with niggers, pajeets and sandniggers is voicing his retarded opinion>nuclear waste problem has not been solvedWE SOLVED IT DUMBASS. While you were butt-fucking and enjoying MUH WIND AND SOLAR shit we've mastered to recycle nuclear waster into new MOX fuel and solved the task of fast depleting uranium mines.P.S. Dear americans, plz make leaf country the 51st state already and exterminate cucknada from the face of the Earth, they are so fucking retarded it's unbelievable
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>>528323294>>(take a look at Chernobyl)>Commie issue not nuclear.NO. As usual, hohol terrorist issue.>just like you can see right now as hohol terrorist try to blow up nuclear reactorsChernobyl was powering a massive soviet Radar. Hohol terrorist blew it up.
>>528323110I don't think you're aware of the human sacrifice that went into mitigating Chernobyl. I suggest you watch a documentary about it.>we can make nuclear viable by deregulating it bro of course I want a deregulated nuke in my backyard built by random guys off the street for sub minimum wage and no supervision of course I trust my life with thatNot in my backyard.
>>528322848Solar just destabilizes the grid and generates nothing at night. Nuclear actually generates stable reliable power.
>>528322982Wrong, retard.
>>528323110>Why does Indian plan to build 100 GW by 2050 and China 300 GW by 2050. Why did is Japan restarting all it's Nuclear Reactors and looking to build new ones if it's all so damn uneconomical.Because it's how you make nuclear weapons, you uneducated uncle-fucker.
>>528323377>Dear americans, plz make leaf country the 51st state already and exterminate cucknada from the face of the Earth, tYeah , we are looking to do that one. BTW leafs in 1960-ies built a bunch of nuclear reactors for India, dumb arses.
>>528323153A 1,000 MW nuclear plant fits within roughly 1.3 square miles (about 3.4 km^2). To match this, a solar farm needs to occupy a space closer to 45–75 square miles (116–200 km^2).To supply the same power, you need 50 times the amount of land. That is an ecological disaster. All the animal habitats and ecosystems that would be destroyed by that construction and heavy metal leaching.
>>528322848>uneconomical spoken like a true jewmy electricity bill went up 30% this year and has been steadily climbing every year and you're making the fucking profitsfuck windmills fuck solar fuck using us as cattle fuck you
>>528323640Ecological disaster is your biosphere being irradiated and uninhabitable for millennia because of a nuclear meltdown. Not a few extra square miles being occupied by solar panels.
>>528322848i want everyone to wrap their minds around that we run nuclear powerplants and hospitals only to fuel the growing nig-spic cycle. the power and water wasted by brown breeder hordes is destroying the planet.
>>528323450>muh nobylWe should never go back into space because the Challenger exploded.
>>528323450Bro the sacrifieces were 10 days of the Ukraine Russia war. For 3515 MW of Electricity for 10 years. It operated until 2000. If this was the norm. It would still be less deaths then coal mining and operation of coal power plants. You won't beat me with statistics. Because the Nuclear ones are simply so fucking in favor of it it's crazy.>>528323524Explain why both countries are at the fore front of Thorium reactors that make it extremely difficult to make Plutonium. It's really simple VPN retard or 外人 they want POWER. 24/7 BASE LOAD. That isn't making their cities look like fucking fog carnivals and isn't driving their medical costs sky high because people have having 1000 health issues because of coal smog. China has a near monopoly on Solar Production and Battery Production it still invests gigantic sums of money into non viable for atomic weapons nuclear research.
>>528323705You think STALKER is real life lmao. People and animals still live near Pripyat. Also nuclear meltdowns are extremely rare, especially with today’s technology. Fukushima-Daichi failed because the Japs built it on the coast and didn’t sufficiently account for 7.0+ earthquakes generating tsunami of that height. Chernobyl melted down because they were being extremely reckless with the criticality and doing experiments. Conspiracy theories also suggest it may have been intentionally pushed into criticality. Nuclear energy is extremely safe. There are thousands of plants that operate every day with no problems.
>>528322848post eating utensils jeet
>>528322848>WIR SCHAFFEN DAS!There's something wrong with your flag german scum
>>528323705Did you ever look at a picture from Chernobil that wasn't taken in Winter or late Autumn so it makes it look like some sort of desolate wasteland. Let this sink in the trees that were planted there in the Sovet Union are still there. Almost none of them died. It's a fucking forest with boars, deer, wolves and it's one of the largest nature preserves in Europe today. Because no human goes there. It's not a ghost town because it glows green, it's a ghost town because people are literally afraid they'll get an increased cancer risk by 1% if they live there.
>>528324222Absolutely same shit with Fukushima. They just abandoned perfectly fine housing and entire villages. https://www.demilked.com/nature-reclaim-fukushima-exclusion-zone-photos-arkadiusz-podniesinski/
>>528323999>>528324222Go hug the Elephant's Foot and report back.
>>528323985You shouldn't argue with Canadicucks. They're so far gone it isn't even funny. VPN retard? He's fucking Indian. They've imported the lowest IQ race imaginable.
>>528322991>"only people in charge matter"You should ask Hindus in your country, then.
>>528324305>but the elephant’s foot!!! Go back to plebbit
>>528322848>Nuclear is uneconomical>nuclear takes a gorillion years to buildAbout half the cost and time that goes into building a new plant comes down to regulations and procedures that are leftovers from when government was actively discouraging new nuclear plants after the incident at Three-Mile Island. New plant construction dropped to fucking nil between '79 and '09 because of this. Companies are expected to sink tens of millions of dollars and years of time and manpower just to get to the proposal phase, at which point getting approval to build is still basically a coin flip.>nuclear waste problem has not been solvedWe had a solution. A long term storage facility at Yucca Mountain. The site's effectively finished and has enough space to store more waste than we can generate in the next hundred years. The only reason we're not using it is because the anti-nuclear lobby pushed the government to shut it down because having a long term waste storage facility might make people support expanding nuclear power.>in the time you build a nuclear plant you can install much more solar and windNot with all the government subsidies getting axed. The primary driver behind growth of wind and solar in the US has been government regulations and subsidies being very pro-wind and pro-solar over the last 30 years. Until recently it has been very affordable and very timely for companies or individual consumers to get panels and turbines set up because the government has been shelling out money to absorb costs and rubberstamping approvals. That's no longer the case.>SMRs are meme vapourwareWe'll see if anything comes of them, but you don't need SMRs for nuclear power. One modern reactor at a standard plant has about the same capacity as the largest wind farm in the US, and a full plant usually run anywhere from 1-4 reactors.
>>528322848>>528324440>nuclear has the most catastrophic failure mode of any human technology (take a look at Chernobyl)Chernobyl was driven by poor design and human incompetence, Fukushima was a result of the worst natural disaster in Japan's history wiping out not just the backup systems but the backups for the backups. Both disasters led to significant redesigns that ultimately have made reactors safer.>constant ongoing decomissioning/maintenance costs. cannot leave them unattended or you have nuclear meltdown catastrophe.Once you dispose of the reactor fuel there's no longer any risk of meltdown, and if you have a long term waste storage facility (like Yucca Mountain), decommission of a reactor and storage of waste becomes significantly less expensive and time-consuming.>meanwhile nothing happens with solar or windSignificant components in both wind turbines and solar panels are non-recyclable, like the fiberglass turbine blades or the laminated semiconductive sections of panels. Techniques are being developed to make recycling of these components possible, but are costly, and both time and energy-consuming.
>Solar is le reddit!!!!This is the funniest stance of nuclearfags. They're essentially contrarians who ape nuclear because redditors hate it. But on a purely technical meritocratic level nuclear is dogshit and solar mogs. Ironically nuclearfags are the very thing they hate (bandwagoning redditors) in their mentality.
>>528324305Oh no a melted slab of radioactive material. You know who has that? Every hospital on earth. It's there, it's locked up. Like is this some gotcha moment. Whats it going to do to me sitting there behind 100 metric tons of concrete and earth? Did the ecology around Chernobily collapse? Is Hiroshima an uninhabited Wasteland? Is Nagasaki uninhabitable? Here me watching some Baseball Training in Nagasaki.
>>528324512There’s a dude sitting right next to the elephant’s foot like 3 feet away. In the fucking picture you posted. No full face shield, just a commercial respirator on. But it’s so fucking scary, it would disintegrate you on the atomic level like they said on reddit!!!!
>>528324468All the fuel is going to end up reused on fast neutron reactors anyways. It's just that everyones taking their sweet ass time with building some. Nuclear waste is quite literally non relevant. If you store it in some concrete bathtub it just sit there heating the water to like 30°c and if you dump it into a 4th gen reactor it literally fuel again.
>>528322848>>Nuclear is uneconomicalno its the cheapst if you account for having to build grid storage in the case of solar>>nuclear takes a gorillion years to buildnot if you don't let the process be dictated by evil corps or retarded governments>>nuclear waste problem has not been solvedit has. Linac driven nuclear reactors cut down waste problem from a couple millions to ~300 years thats nothing. Also if they stopped being retarded with the waste building a large facility to recylce it would become attractive instead of throwing it into a cave and forgetting it. See above. >>in the time you build a nuclear plant you can install much more solar and windand you need the energy storage otherwise its useless. >>SMRs are meme vapourwareno clue there.>>nuclear has the most catastrophic failure mode of any human technology (take a look at Chernobyl)Chernobyl is not possible with modern reactors. >>constant ongoing decomissioning/maintenance costs. cannot leave them unattended or you have nuclear meltdown catastrophe. meanwhile nothing happens with solar or windall of that can be turned into a advantage with the right engineering.
>>528322848Every nuclear project currently under development has had massive delays and cost blowouts. It seems like we collectively forgot how to build nuclear. Wind, solar and batteries are vastly cheaper and better option nowadays. Australia now runs almost entirely off solar most of the day and batteries for about an hour at night, rapidly increasing year-on-year.
We shouldn't do nuclear right now for the simple fact that we are in an apocalyptic level competency crisis, and the whole world in general being on fire with religious terrorists and narco terrorists and ideological terrorists and political terrorists all vying to destroy western civilization, making a target as devastating as a nuclear facility as tempting as a a kiddie pool to a muslim. We need to sort out all or at least most of this shit before we even think about building more future dirty bomb epicenters.
>>528324851Are you retarded? You elect “green” politicians and are surprised when they sabotage nuclear energy.
>>528322848Better alternative.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7GFFfmBGb5UToo bad it's in the hands of the DOD and .gov contractors, after the death of the founding inventers.
>>528322848Why the solution is always about create more energy, instead of wasting less energy?
>>528324851>Every nuclear project currently under development has had massive delays and cost blowouts.Yep, thats what I meant by uneconomical. Add all the other downsides and nuclear just looks like an incredibly poor option.
>>528324910Conservatives have been in power most of Hinkley's horrifically mismanaged development. Do you not know anything about the world outside the US?
>>528324721>All the fuel is going to end up reused on fast neutron reactors anywaysPossibly, I'll wait until they're working before making that claim. Point is, we've got the storage available, we can store a century worth of waste with room to spare. The only reason we aren't is because of a small-but-vocal lobby of anti-nuclear people who are largely being funded by the coal and oil industry.
>>528324964>conservative vs progressiveThis is a false dialect. Both sides are stooges propped up by globalists. In South Carolina, one of the more conservative states, they sabotaged a nuclear plant’s construction and left the bill of several billion dollars to the taxpayer with absolutely nothing to show for it. There was no reason to sabotage the project besides corruption. Lindsey Graham, the globalist Zionist stooge, is a South Carolina senator. If you think he’s a conservative you’re uninformed. He does whatever his masters tell him to do, with zero consideration for his constituents. Most politicians are like this, doesn’t matter where, or what party they used to get elected.
>>528323234No lmao people who need baseload power are burning fuels. Nuclear and renewables are a meme
>>528324916lol, more electric universe horseshit. fuck off back to /x/, faggot.if you want plasma power, go with inertial, magnetic, or magneto-inertial fusion and stop funding scammers claiming they can generate infinite power with their overpriced planeterrella.
Look at this nuclear waste storage facility. A horror, a postapocalyptic wasteland. I heard the army patrols it to cull down all those two- headed dogs and giant scorpions wandering around.
>>528325316Jesus Christ! How horrifying!
>>528324851>Every nuclear project currently under development has had massive delays and cost blowoutsIn the west where people haven't built a single nuclear reactor since the 1980s and once it's built all the workforce and people who know how to build one and are supposed to keep building them and improving are fired and never use their skills again. It's like designing an airplane and building it every time you want to fly. It's beyond retarded. There a reason why Airbus and Boeing make 95% of all aircraft in the world. It's because over the last 70 years they learned how to do it, and they learned it really well and now it's really economical. You think India and China don't want their own aircraft? They must looove being dependent on EU and America.It's even crazier if you factor in the Soviet Union now Russia who had 70 years and built their own aircraft that got absolutely mogged Airbus and Boeing because their aircraft were subsidized communist trash and never needed to actually compete. Why didn't the former Communist world just buy Tupolevs? Why did nobody buy the Tupolev Tu-204? It should have been good no?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-154 was actually made in 1026 an actually decent number. But the equivalent to it made by the us Boeing 737 - mog it by 12,409Samewith the EU version of A320 - Number built 12,487 The Tupolev_Tu-154 failed because it was uneconomical, had 3 shitty kerozine guzzling engines, none of the avionics where upgrades to anything modern, it's safety record was shit.
>>528325316>o6YNuclearfags in general are incompetent. They wanted to bury the waste in a fucking mountain. Guess what mountains are highly correlated with? EARTHQUAKES. They wanted to put their waste in a fucking earthquake prone area. They had to scrap the fucking thing when the earthquakes started. At least the Finland proposal is in a seismically stable region, but just goes to show these nuclearfags are winging it with starry eyed ideals.Are these the retards we want in charge of technology which has consequences which last for THOUSANDS OF YEARS (unlike any other technology)? I think not.
>>528325316Dude, have you seen Fallout on Amazon Prime? Or Chernobyl on HBO?!? Nuclear is heckin’ le bad!!! Capitalists just want to blow up the earth!! What do you mean Chernobyl was controlled by Communists? They are the good guys! I learned that on reddit!!
>>528325316No wonder the Netherlands people eat this as breakfast.
>>528324222Meanwhile this is how leftards imagine Chernobyl.
>>528325452You don't understand what the waste even is. Can you name me some fucking waste and why it's dangerous?
>>528324298>>528324222Yep the wildlife is all fine, I've only seen made up fake stories compared to when people sneak in and everything and all the animals look normal
>>528324298Fags let those reactors pop didnt even try.Why is this being spammed same image and text as the last thread
>>528325466You are a global warming shill. There’s absolutely no reason to support nuclear over fossil fuels
>>528323071CBC bots being paid to spread poz tbqh
>>528325187Heres the thing EU as of now only does 34% of electricity production via fossils and 70% of that 34% is gas. The only country in Europe that activley uses coal is Poland. Well is what I would have said a few years ago. You know who actually uses coal these days? GERMANY. Because they shut down their nuclear reactors for baseload. There also poor countries like Bosnia, Serbia, Turkey, Ukraine. Oh and Czechia.
Let's keep this really simple: if the goal is *firm power* (24/7 reliable uninterrupted energy) the costs over 60 years (average lifecyclr of a single nuclear reactor):>Nuclear: ~$12bn>Solar w/ 12 hour batteries: ~$37bn>Wind w/ 12 hour batteries: ~$37bnIf you bump the batteries up to 72 hours for solar/wind, the costs go up to ~$130+bn.Solar/wind work better as cheaper energy producers when they are available, since they are cheaper on smaller scales. Basically when they are used to supplement an energy grid and not *be* the energy grid. A hybrid approach (nuclear, solar, wind, geothermal, hydro, gas) is the best approach to energy production.
>>528325721Fossil fuels deplete as they are extracted from the earth and are not recyclable upon combustion into energy. For that reason alone, nuclear is superior. Without even getting into any theoretical environmental impact.
>>528325612Because I was in the last fucking thread spamming them. Anti Nuclear fags drive me up the wall. They want clean energy but they don't want nuclear. Have a picture of Futaba one of the villages closes to Fukushima Dai Ichi. As you can see people still live there, snow is cleared. Just go on twitter past in #双葉町 and you'll get tons of pictures.I never lived in Ukraine but I did live in Japan I visited the sites, it's all a big nothing burger.
>>528324222>>528324298>Chernobyl and Fukushima were GOOD actuallylol its always the ame shit with you nukefags>>>/g/108119369
>>528322848Hydrogen production?
>>528325853Realistically the battery cost would go down considerably once they're built with scale and mass but it would still be cheaper to go nuclear.
>>528322848and now reality:>cleanest, cheapest and best yield of any energy source
>>528322848It's true that it is insanely expensive, but it can work well in conjunction with renewables and storage, it's better than having your baseload be natural gas.The problem is that self proclaimed nuketards on the "right" fall hook line and sinker for "pro nuclear" propaganda and shit on renewables, except said propaganda originates from oil and gas companies, they drum up nuclear projects to shit on and shut down renewables, then they never fucking build nuclear because it was all a scam to cancel renewables and use more fossil fuels instead. Anyway, I'm keeping an eye on the TMSR-LF1. God bless China.
>>528326110Yes you retard they're good. There no 10 kilometer crater. The death numbers are in the hundreds not in the millions, the deaths per MW of power produced are lower then coal. The radiation risks are negligiblehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramsar,_Iran#RadioactivityA city in Iran is more radioactive then most of the surrounding areas near Fukushima or Chernobyl. Like the events were so overblown and overhyped by the media it's crazy. The acutal death toll, the cancer rate, the problems and issues are all quite literally not even one coal power plants worth of victims.
People fear nuclear because of dumb boomers propagating a meltdown is the same as a hydrogen bomb going off. Also Jews make more money off other power sources so they propagate the same. Imagine if we stopped using fire because some idiot burned his house down. It's stupid.
>>528322848Leaf - The Post
>>528326230The problem goes both ways.The right is brainwashed into fossils only and maybe nuclear.The the left is brainwashed into maybe solar win and hydro and maybe gas as a stopgap but no nuclear.There no real pro nuclear powers or companies out there shilling for it.
>>528324512Ok, retard
>>528322848Put a question mark in your dogshit threads so my filter works you dumb cunt.
>>528322991It doesnt suck they are just pedo butt buddies with the oil guys
>>528322982>barely enough for a single homeYou would need dozens of panels and a bright sunny day to power a single home. The ones people have on their houses do not power the whole thing, not even close.>>528323259>>528323469Solar shills are a weird thing to see. You're both retards.
>>528322848> Indian has low IQ opinion Many such cases!
>>528325452Yucca mountain is operational.It just isnt publicly accepting nuclear waste from NRC run nuclear plants.You tards really have no idea what you are talking about.Solar literally destroys massive amounts of countryside during both the mining phase and the operational phase and is currently uneconomical if you factor in the opportunity cost of the land and the removal/recycling of hundreds of square miles of solar panels.The only reason your green revolution is appearing to work is nuclear. Your easily propagandized pathetic excuse for a brain just cant see that.
>>528328677I guess you nukefags got your way with that boondoggle. Even though no one fucking wanted it.
>>528326156Wait until you see a 1 square mile iron-air battery field go up in flames.These solar fags will be terrified. It will be far worse than even a nuclear weapon going off.
>>528328926Fires come and go. Nuclear irradiation doesn't go away so easily, not anytime soon. If a nuclear incident happened in ancient Egypt, we'd still be feeling it today.
>>528329195Also, lifepo4 batteries are much safer now.
>>528326110Fukushima killed no people you retard>>528328746You stupid niggers would recertify ancient reactors until they are 100 years old rather than build new ones.If the old ones were safe enough and cost effective enough to last 100 fucking years, then we should just be building more of those.But no, you fucking DIPSHITS get to vote and keep recertifying our old as fuck reactors because you're scared of the safety of new ones.You aren't intelligent and you aren't serious people. If nuclear is so dangerous, why are you dumb fucks planning on using existing nuclear reactors until they are 90+ years old? Shouldn't that scare your little plebbitor smoothbrain? No? Why not? Because you weren't told to be afraid? The serious people see this and suggest to build more of those extremely robust and economical and safe old-style designs.
>>528329195Christ you are god damned dumb.The miniscule increase in background radiation from a nuke going off in the disrant past is negligible.A square mile of iron oxide batteries burning all at once is an ecological disaster of unprecedented scale. It would literally be larger than a chernobyl level event requiring evacuations and destroying the land around for miles.
>>528329592It's you nukefags who want to keep your geriatric slopractors going on indefinitely. All the sane sensible people want to decomission that slop and move on to better technology already.
>>528329859No retard. We want more reactors to be built.Its you faggots who dont, but need to hold on to the old ones so you can jerk yourselves off about "net zero" and how you are saving the world from global warming.You can't do that without nuclear because your solar and wind do not work 24/7 and dont supply reliable baseload power even when generating. So you stupid faggots keep recertifying ancient reactors
>itt wind and solar virgins forever malding at the nuclear chadnuclear is safe, clean, and effective if the reactors aren't built and run by sub90IQ retards or cucked by dumbfuck environmentalists that watched chernobyl on HBO and now think they're experts. nuclear alarmism is a giant psyop to prevent access to clean and cheap electricity with little to no downsides in favor of strip mining and landscape destruction to build one single acre of solar panels or a single wind turbine, neither of which can be recyled, unlike nuclear fuel.
Nuclear technology is incredibly dangerous. Some randoms rummaging through debris/trash caused an incident of international scale. This technology needs to be shuttered. The measures needed to get this boondoggle under control were monumental. Nuclear is extremely dangerous. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goi%C3%A2nia_accident
>>528322848Solar never produces more energy over its lifecycle than it cost to manufacture the panels.Nuclear power does, providing the reactor is maintained properly, but it takes decades and it would help tremendously if everyone involved in constructing one wasn't a fucking Jew begging for a fortune to make it.
>>528331081Looks like the macacos were the problem there, both the macacos with degrees who didn't lock it up and the macacos who thought they could sell nuclear waste for a profit.
>>528331168A small mistake can lead to,>About 112,000 people were examined for radioactive contamination and 249 of them were found to have been contaminated.This is not something anyone wants near them.
>>528331103Nuclear plants reproduce the entire amount of energy required to create them within the first month of operation.
>>528323450>human sacrifice that went into mitigating ChernobylThey were communists, not humans
>>528331241Then don't trust low IQ negraõ with high IQ equipment.>>528331276Old ones too?
>>528331241Hey dipshit that had to do with hospitals and cat scan equipment, not nuclear plants.You might as well argue against hospitals you fucking tard
>>528331343Yes even the old ones
>nuclear waste problem has not been solvedJust launch all the nuclear waste to India, it's a win win for everybody.
>>528322848Nuclear has been purposefully made uneconomical by introducing excessive nonsense safety regulations that drive construction costs to the moon.
>>528322848Literally everything you said was wrong and retarded.
>>528331445>fallout Mumbai>nuclear jeet ghouls>super pootants>saar do not redeem the radaway we are next stepno thanks I'd rather not deal with mutated fecaloids, thank you.
>>528331081People should be aware of the scale and magnitude of the cleanup efforts in a nuclear incident. It's like nothing else. Even the worst oil spill you've ever seen is nothing compared to nuclear contamination. It's toxic on another level.>Topsoil had to be removed from several sites, and several houses were demolished. All the objects from within those houses were removed and examined. Those that were found to be free of radioactivity were wrapped in plastic bags, while those that were contaminated were either decontaminated or disposed of as waste. >After the houses were emptied, vacuum cleaners were used to remove dust, and plumbing was examined for radioactivity. Painted surfaces could be scraped, while floors were treated with acid and Prussian blue mixtures. Roofs were vacuumed and hosed, but two houses had to have their roofs removed. The waste from the cleanup was moved out of the city to a remote place for storage. Aeroradiometric operations were undertaken by low-altitude survey, which was carried out over Goiânia. The radiometric equipment and materials available at the IRD[35] were quickly transported and mounted on a Eurocopter AS350 Écureuil helicopter provided by the police of the state of Goiás.[36]>Potassium alum dissolved in hydrochloric acid was used on clay, concrete, soil, and roofs. Caesium has a high affinity for many clays. Organic solvents, followed by potassium alum dissolved in hydrochloric acid, were used to treat waxed/greased floors and tables. Sodium hydroxide solutions, also followed by dissolved potassium alum, were used to treat synthetic floors, machines and typewriters.>Prussian blue was used to internally decontaminate many people, although by the time it was applied, much of the radioactive material had already migrated from the bloodstream to muscle tissue, greatly hampering its effectiveness. Urine from victims was treated with ion-exchange resin to compact the waste for ease of storage.
>>528322848>decide to build nuclear in the west>billion dollars to develop a new project that will satisfy greentards and nimbys>another billion dollars for political lobbying and lawsuits>gee I wonder why nuclear is so expensiveAnd now only nations that can build nuclear are ruskies and chinks
>>528322848No anon we have a solutionWe learned it from India and there concerningly old irradiated sites exist deep under their soul>bury all waste in india
>>528322848Based leaf.
>>528322848coalburning is where it's at.burn more coal.luve me brown coal
>>528322848Seething German hands typed this postNuclear power and nuclear weapons are THE American way!
>>528322982Space-based solar harvesters are really fucking good, but unironically a surpressed technology.
>>528322848Agreed but the world will be entirely irradiated and jeeted before long anyways.
>>528322848>Muh nuclear wasteRadioisotope batteries in space probes use it for power as can breeder reactors Its a power source that can outlast generations, THAT is why it is "uneconomical", because it wouldn't generate profits for jews
>>528322848sounds like a massive retard cope on your part, jeet.
>>528323110>Why do you retards keep saying this. Why does Indian plan to build 100 GW by 2050 and China 300 GW by 2050. Why did is Japan restarting all it's Nuclear Reactors and looking to build new ones if it's all so damn uneconomical.China can do scale, Indians lie, and Nips are dumb>And operates for 50~70 years. Speed it up. There a reason why it takes so long. It's you people.It's really not. Even in China nuke plants take 8-10 years to build.>Where the batteries at to keep it functional like Nuclear 24/7The beauty of solar is that it tends to naturally increase power generation with peak demand, and for weather can be augmented with wind, hydro, and natural gas.>MaybeAs someone in the industry they 100% are>>constant ongoing decomissioning/maintenance costs.>Wind turbines literally cost x1000 per MW in maintenance cost compared to Nuclear. Still profitable.Do you have a source to back that up?>It's not the 1950The closed cycle will eventually cause the spent fuel pool to boil off given enough time without proper controls and maintenance. Literally what happened in Fukushima, the reactor was fine but the spent fuel pool began to heat up and boil off.>Except you also have to decommison them like Nuclear and are left with pollutants that might be recyclable in the future just like nuclear bur aren't economical to recycle now.You could also just leave them to rotBut yeah, nuclear is a dead industry in the West.
>>528322848geothermal and hydro "mogs" solar and wind "slop"
>>528328550Sneed sells feed and seed, which is completely normal. Chuck, on the other hand, sells fuck and suck.
