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>>533500313>IRAN TO ATTEND PEACE TALKS DESPITE DENYING PUBLICALLYtiger status: paper
>>>/out/2866074Going to make some food
>>533500410Battle of two paper animals.
>>533500410They are just tsundereI-It's not like I wanted to negotiate with you, b-baka!
>>533500380it is because their trotzky communism lost to stalins goy communism
>>533500313I improved it.
Live laugh love
>>533500068>You said flat out. The US isn't doing that. I wouldn't even consider invasion flat out. Flat out is like WWII levels total war.Anon, whatever you want to call sending B-2s, B-1s, F-22s and depleting your standoff munitions from JASSMs to Tomahawks - the idea before this war was that any country, leave alone a sanctioned brown one was supposed to just fold under this onslaught. That idea, the proposition that no country could stand up to the US armed forces was the most potent weapon the US had and Iran destroyed it by withstanding not just the US going at it hammer and tongs, but withstanding both the US and Israel.
>>533500510>AI slop>Improvedchoose one
>>533500510very nice
>>533500410>Trusting Pakis>FUCKING PAKIS>After the trick they pulled with showing two different version of the ceasefire to the two different partieslmao
Everyone is rooting for the hyenas, kike.>>533500478what about leninism? social democracy (e.g. Norway)? Maoism embracing free market capitalism and having some type of hybrid form? What does any of that have to do with jews, except you just making claims? If you can't answer this time, I will assume you have no answers that aren't unsubstantiated opinions.
If the IRGC isn't cucked and the regime isn't changed (doubtful) then I can see ground invasion in the following month.
>>533500516Libtard publications are always wrong about Trump and his endeavors. Shit like this is extremely bearish for Iran
>>533500641And hid Osama from us. Tsk tsk.
>>533500657Ground invasion isn't happening. Instead US/Israel will strike infrastructure until Iran collapses economically.
>>533500695Like Yemen?
>>533500657If they'd do a ground invasion, it will be extremely unpopular. I'd actually be worried about the USA more than Iran. The gay no-kings protests would maybe transform into something more interesting.
>>533500725>unpopularMaybe but this doesn't matter. Americas are slaves, their protests and opinions don't matter. Also I reckon it'll be a split with guys like >>533500667 being a substantial percentage.
>>533500695How much more does the USA have and do you think it's enough? And even if it's enough, how exposed is USA until their stockpiles are somewhat replenished?Trump doesn't have the cards do repeat what they already did. And what they already did, won't be enough to bring Iran to its knees.
>>533500667100% always wrong about Trump? Lol miga and their copes are delicious, post 3 examples, you can't can you? lmao!
>>533500579>>533500527Set sail lads, they have cargo to plunder!
>>533500648lenin adapted and took directly from french liberalismhe picked the goy stalin over the jew trotzkystalin and mao were national socialist not international socialist
>>533500783They ran out of sophisticated smart bombs, drones and Tomahawks but they still have plenty of flesh and tanks. They could zerg rush it.
what is the 4th of july for the goy?
>>533500725The people protesting in those are not a threat, they won't (and can't) do anything. The real risk is within army top ranks. There were already news of negotiators and military specialists discussing strategy without the orange homo. If Trump becomes a big enough liability, there could be a coup.
>>533500725It would be extraordinarily unpopular, and most importantly, it wouldn't work.>>533500783They need to choke Iran's exports for 1-2 months and start taking out softer infrastructure targets, gradually ramping up to things like power plants/desal plants if Iran doesn't budge. If the IRGC can't pay its soldiers they're fucked sooner rather than later.
>>533500667>Libtard publications are always wrong about Trump and his endeavors. Shit like this is extremely bearish for Iranhttps://archive.md/YUfj8
>>533500784I could post 3000 examples. Let's start with the baby-brained example of the 2016 election, don't you remember the Huffington Post poll showing he only had 8% odds of winning the election?
>>533500864>IRGC can't pay its soldiersDo you think Yemen pays its soldiers?Do you think you and your allies can survive the blockade longer than the guys that take it as an existential struggle?
>>533500864>If the IRGC can't pay its soldiers they're fucked sooner rather than later.Yes that's why Austria Hungary collapsed in 1915 and Imperial Japan followed in 1940. Economic restraints collapse empires, stupid nigger
Everyone give Trump your energy!ULTIMATE MAGA
>>533500923>Do you think Yemen pays its soldiers?Yes>Do you think you and your allies can survive the blockade longer than the guys that take it as an existential struggle?Yes because it's not an existential struggle. The US wants to take out the IRGC and keep the political structure in-tact with Ghalibaf/Pezeshkian at the helm. Moreover, the US wants to help rebuild and incorporate Iran into the worls economy. It's only existential if you're an IRGC hardliner.
>>53350031314 miles of ground to cover today don't know if I will make it
>>533500961Soldiers in the middle east don't work for free, as has been shown time and time again
>>533500923We're talking about iranians? Right? Like don't they flea at every sign of trouble?
>>533500864>They need to choke Iran's exports for 1-2 months and start taking out softer infrastructure targets, gradually ramping upEvery Iranian is willing to fight to the death. Destroying their infrastructure only serves to make them angrier.
>>533501018Incorrect
>>533500977I know you're a retarded migger but I'm pretty sure the average Iranian (not even the soldiers) is keenly aware of what Israel wants for themMoreover Iran survived being literally gassed and suffering millions of casualities without collapsing 40 years ago, I don't think missing a payday is going to bother them much.
>>533500977>YesThere's no reason to continue this conversation.
>>533500778I would've thought so but 2020, a bunch of idiots already stormed the capitol on a retard's whim. I do understand what you mean but I think this time might be different. Especially if he goes against the will of the people another time. We know have the hindsight of knowing they've bombed a school.>>533500802All of this seems awfully reductive, although you've explained your view better. Also, liberalism isn't French. Every country had its liberals, including Germany.>>533500863Ok, fair point. I think it cascades. If serious protests happen, top brass in the army will take that as a signal too.>there could be a coupThey serve the people, so discontent in society should at least partially influence decisions.>>533500834Damn, they really do not have the cards. Zerg rushing Iran seems less likely than Trump being taken out of the picture.>>533500864They don't have the means to do that (bombing for 2 months). They can choke Iran but we can't really estimate in full how Iran might adapt to the situation (Russia/China's help). Good point on Iran's means to pay their soldiers. Not sure but theoretically they can just print new money or implement a crypto solution (assuming the have it stocked up). Who knows. Hard to tell from the outside looking in.---I think we will see a decision today or tomorrow. It will indicate where this is going.
>>533500992Vgh, blessed promised land of the chosenites... lush and fertile promised land.. vgh thank jaahweh for granting us this promised land, nevermind the philistines who currently own said land
>>533501038blow a bridge it gets rebuilt in 4 daysblow up a power station and not only Iran but the entire multi-polar Duginite world will fight for Iran.You don't hold any cards, you should retreat and never think of taking on Iran ever again.
>>533501018Huh?
>>533501003Despite spending 30 years in the middle east, you are still losing this war because of your stubborn attitudide unprone to change. It's on you, but don't whine here when irannies won't rise up to put kike shah in charge after yet another angry orange man rant
>>533501083>a bunch of idiots already stormed the capitol on a retard's whim.Yes, guys like >>533500977Those are the same guys that will support the ground invasion if that same retard orders it lol. Those ARE the slaves.
>533501007The absolute state of shills. Day 52 of the 52 minutes special military operation btw
>>533501083They have the means to choke Iran for months with the blockade, not necessarily bomb non-stop (not needed).>>533501119You are hilarious. Russia cannot even dent Ukraine after years of fighting, and China won't do shit as always. Thank you for being my entertainment for the day.
>>533501123You're showing me they've left urban centres but not the country.... You do understand that Shia Muslim is a death cult right? That they welcome a good death? Ok then.
>>533500410Looks like Iran is mirroring the Trump strategy of continuous ambiguity and indecision.I wonder if it's literally their overall strategy.
>>533501143Can't read I guess? >>533500864 A ground invasion wouldn't work and isn't needed, it's not even on the table. We'd need 6+ months of active prep starting from now to do a ground invasion. You are delusional.
>>533501083>I think we will see a decision today or tomorrow. It will indicate where this is going.Why?
>>533501183>Russia cannot even dent UkraineFella, the hohols lost a third of their country.
>>533501143Yeah, ok. Good point. Why can't the anti-war people have a core group of gullible retards? lmao>>533501183You assume Iran would just take it. Not sure on Iran capabilities to start laundry fires or to strike Israel until USA fucks off, but they won't just take it. They've made that clear by now.>>533501218ceasefire deadline. I assume we can deduce something from it. Probably statements being made by either or both sides.
>IDF female soldiers are now in LebanonWhy is Hezbollah losing to them?
>>533501183I thought all Iran's defences and military capability was destroyed, why don't you get closer, waltz on in and take Terahn, go ahead, there is no resistance to speak of right? What's stopping you?
>>533501083>Not sure but theoretically they can just print new money or implement a crypto solutioneither of those is economical suicide
>>533501231UNDENTED
>There are americans who still think they can beat zealots after all of its wars ended with counter attacks or insurgencies
>>533501217>A ground invasion wouldn't workTrue.>it's not even on the tableIt absolutely is and you'll support it when it starts. Same how you voted for no new wars yet here you are shilling for it lol.>prep timeYou needed prep time for this too yet you did it anyway and now Japan, Korea and Europe are crippled. The orange nigger doesn't care.
>>533501119>but the entire multi-polar Duginite world will fight for Iran.lmao1. The duginite world only exists in Dugin's head2. Next-door Sunnis can't even fight for Palestinians, right nowThe Western alliance is very weak currently, despite having a common and strong root (which allowed it to exist in the first place).But there is no such thing as an anti-West, or "multi-polar" alliance; the entire point is that everyone will be for themselves.
>>533501083>Also, liberalism isn't Frenchfrench liberalism is french anon, american liberalism is a different thing and lost already
>>533501320There's no such thing as the West either for their matter
>>533501298You are the most brainless retard I have encountered on one of these threads so far. Please remember this moment vividly, so a year from now when there was no ground invasion you can have a flashback and say "damn that dude was right, I was retarded"
>>533501375For whose matter?Third-worlders?
>>533501204Their strategy is to inflict a regime change in the US. Closing the strait for as long as possible achieve that.How the US can't see the writing on the wall is beyond me, but then again they're turboretards so yeah.
>533501378> No rebuttal
>>533501397Trump's lol> Phwease Yurop open the straight for me
>>533501320As we speak Iran is supported by the Chinese and Russia, Brics alliance holds strong (only in the Pol tards fantasy of reality is it a weak or inconsequential alliance) But go off chief you keep imagining the USA holds any cards whatsoever over Iran
>>533501378You're getting upset lol. Here's my stance >>533500657If indeed IRGC is not couped then the only thing that remains is ground invasion. Your counterarguments are just cope.>t-they'll go broke!You'll go broke sooner and harder and the guys that rule you care more about the stock market than the golems they send to die.
>>533500410Fucking lameIRGC should take over already and blacklist the aragchi
Trump no1
>>533501261Ah yes, the "literal suicide over economical suicide"-approach."Our economy can't die if we're already dead"-approach.I said two simple options. Pretty sure there plenty of complicated trade and monetary policy options. Furthermore, I'm pretty sure that - if there was an alternative trade route, Iran wouldn't say "hey guise, we got our economic lifeline right here". Someone mentioned Caspian sea. I've read something about Chinese aid coming per plane. Then there probably are stockpiles underground - prepared long in advance. In good storage conditions, food rations can be kept for a long ass time.>>533501351... Liberalism is liberalism. You can add French in front of it as if the identifier is meaningful. But it only means something in your mind. I just looked at a few sources and even the LLM box gave a definition that's one-to-one "what is classical liberalism".I really don't see the point of arguing the subjective perception of ideologies. It's not that deep... People make it their personalities but it's really meaningless (imho). I even think it's what's keeping us ignorant and divided. Just my 2 cents, no offense intended.
>>533501442You are projecting. I didn't say anything about the US vs. Iran.I'm just saying that the idea of some super alliance of non-Western countries is completely retarded. All those countries have beefs with each other, and they have no common bond. China supports Iran to the extent it's one of their gas stations.The Western alliance (which is currently in crisis) does have a common bond, and that's why it exists in the first place.
>join bricshitter telegrams>come back to /pig/ (or any general really)>recognize word for word shitposts repeated ad infinitum in the telegrams /pol/ is just a dumping ground for the neglected shitbrowns of telegram that didn't get a cookie for repeating something they heard once
>>533501118Silly guy, Shem has been supplanted, Japheth dwells in his tents. The first born has lost his birth right. Cain is a murderer, Esau sells his birthright for a bowl of pottage. Joseph is believed most of all above his brothers by the father. God warned them over and over, but they wouldn't listen. And still yet they cling to the physical and lap up the dust of Jerusalem and savor the grit thereof because they have nothing but the physical world, and this world is passing away just as much as we all are. The wicked servants are cast out from the house above, but they still stomp around I the shadow therefore, pretending they're inheritors of the promise when in reality they are cast out and destitute.
>>533501583Your points will be wasted on a seething niggerHave a good day though anon
So the UAE is asking the US for a currency swap line meaning that the UAE gets to swap dirhams for USD at the current rate and swap it back at the same rate later (essentially an interest-free USD loan) since it's probably hurting pretty badly in terms of government revenue rn.
>>533501198If they welcome death, why do they flea from it? They should come out like a man. Face the navy blockade like true warriors.
>>533501511>Trump no1
>>533501617> UAE officials> Officials> UAE It's a shame that this word had become completely meaningless
>>533501589always has been, not sure why the surprise
>>533501691There is no shortage of USD.
>>533501613No temple, no priesthood, no King and no Prophets, they're cut off. They'll blow up the mosque and rebuild the temple, declare that man king even though they all know they already killed Him.
>>533500992Where's the water?
>>533501617Why not tap into their foreign reserves?>>533501691Yep, good point. Who actually said this? Might read the source later on to get a better picture.
>>533500973Everyone give Hormuz-Sama your energy!ULTIMATE KIKESLAVE DEATH!
>>533501183>choke Iran for months with the blockadeHow to get murdered in the midterms
>>533501527I don't really understand what you said there anon, what I meant was that it would drivel their economy down significantly if they did what you proposed, im not offering an alternative or anything
>>533501583The Western alliance in crisis is because Israel is failing and unable to meet their projected targets, they managed to destroy GAZA, a literally defenseless people of some 2M palestinians who lived under subjugation for about 40 years in a concentration camp, Escape from New York type of jewish shithole. Hezbollah have just successfully pushed them back from Southern Lebanon. To your point Israel is in serious trouble and it will take a miracle for the weakened USA to save them. A very dangerous game which could very well end in disaster for the jews, who are really fleeing Israel at never before seen rates, never mind the Iranians leaving Terahn. What the United States should do is concentrate on Cuba, maybe they'll be able to capture that small island and save some face, but abandon the Zionist project because it is likely to get every single jew in the Middle East killed
>>533501767At this rate Trump is ganna be king of the pirates down there in Hormuz.
>>533501767
TSUNAMI IN JAPANTHE PLAN STARTED
>>533501747>Why not tap into their foreign reserves?They would have to sell those assets (at a potentially depressed price).That's why they are asking for a currency swap deal instead.
Which distraction will King Migroid invent this week to distract from his humiliating loss in Iran?Reminder, not one of the goals the US set out to do has been achieved
>>533501527liberalism is not universalist, the french style comes from the french revolutionin the US liberalism means the protection of private property and of riches they put it into their constitutionthe liberty to do what is the operative question and in the french style it means freedom of religion not for religionand the opposition to a central ruleramerican liberalism however does have an almost monarch in their president
>>533501818Kek
>>533501784Oh, I meant that they'd have a bunch of options. That was just top of my head what they might do. Might not be economically sound but what I meant to say was: They'd do whatever cost it might bring in the future, just to survive.>there probably are more sensible economic or logistical levers they can pullPeople thought the Russian economy would've been in trouble sooner but they are pulling all sorts of nifty tricks.>>533501858Damn, thank you. This makes so much sense.
>>533500992>the hebrew filth is gambling to be haulocosted for this
>>533501818Aaaargh got a lil captain in ya
>>533501745once per decade they get a proper rainstorm that flushes all the wadis and it looks like you're on planet earth rather than mars for a couple months
>>533501892
Markets will fucking close green when burgers fucking wake upI'm tired of this shit
>>533501940We’ll see.
>>533501940Almost certainly, but that's just numbers on screen.What I don't fully comprehend is the oil 'futures', don't they at some point have to meet with the actual price? Which is what 140 USD at the moment?
>>5335018924 u:)
>>533501940Bobo, are you OK?Are you OK?Are you OK, Bobo?
>>533502024Nope, futures bet on rise or fall of it, they don't represent the oil itself. Derivatives are instruments that are usually many times larger of a market than the market for the thing itself. In the mortgage crisis the derivatives of them were ten times larger than the actual mortgage market.
>>533502024Dated Brent is only $98/barrel nowhttps://x.com/i/status/2046015741569216868
>>533501617So the UAE want the Iran problem to be solved right now without an Iran in control of the SoH or they'll end up paying tribute to Tehran >>533501747>Why not tap into their foreign reserves?>>533501858>They would have to sell those assets (at a potentially depressed price).no lol the real thing they're saying is "give us a currency swap or we may have to sell oil in CNY" and their foreign reserves are in T-bills lol which the US definitely doesn't want more pressure on. As it is, the bond yields are giving Trump nightmares.
>>533502051
Reminder that if you are betting on any of this shit with no insider information, either with stocks or on polymarket, on average you're just giving free money to the Jews and anyone with insider info. You are effectively funding the war.
>>533501866I'm going to be as generalized and say that both the political system and political culture in the USA are inspired by the French revolution. But also it's anglo history and the system they have in place. Noticeably different from the French system. That being said, liberalism applies both to the cultural sphere (universal suffrage, freedom of religion, etc.) as well as the economic one (property rights, minimum intervention from state, etc). To link it with countries seems like a fool's errand. Like I said, you have liberal movements in almost every country. The Belgian constitution was considered liberal at the time, despite that being a type of monarchy.---Again anon: You can have your opinions but what I'm trying to say is that you shouldn't use models and categories as means to be reductive. The social sciences use models to more easily deal with the complicated reality of billions of people and their systems of how society runs best. There is liberalism in France or liberalism as a movement, inspired by the happenings in France... Or there is liberalism how American implemented it, sure. But it's reductive to tag on a lot of attributes, which are maybe better explained by history, culture, political actions, regional tensions, etc.American liberalism is heavily inspired by protestant beliefs, hence the capitalist nature of what you call American liberalism. There is a strong emphasis on entrepreneurial freedom, i.e. economic liberalism. There are tons of books written on the subject. I don't pretend to have read them all. But I know enough to understand when someone is being utterly reductive.
>>533500313should I buy the dip, is it going back to normal now?
Donald here. These sand niggers are just too much. I am going to nuke these losers and take their women to New York to be sold to niggers. Iran will become a zombie apocalypse where big game hunters will be given license to go murder these bastards and hang their heads on the wall. I will create 40 million glowing sand niggers for shits and giggles. Subhuman trash. Now to go back to work on my Nobel Peace Prize and ballroom. Fucking losers. Donald
>>533501745Next place to fill up is in shaharut about 13 miles up trial from were I am, in my pack right now I have. A little more than four liters, hopefully I can make it their by night fall of not I'll arrive early tomrow to resupply
>>533502241nigger tranny faggot found. Disgusting subhuman trash.
>>533502143But doesn't the date at some point expire?>>533502165Well what do you know, although I suppose that can change again starting today
ahh shit, I should've read it once again... lmao, I think the typos can be corrected as you read, sorry. Just a few stray apostrophes and missing characters.>>533502241>TLDR1: American liberalism is inspired by protestant beliefs and culture, which was and is prevalent in USA and explain the American spirit of capitalism for a part.>TLDR2: A lot of constitutions of "young nations" are French inspired. But obviously they have their own situations that set them apart.>>533502360Kike.pdf just joined. Why are there so many pedophile kikes? Could you maybe leave the children alone, you sick freaks?
>>533502360yeah I don't even read what that piece of shift says anymore
>>533502412Is your mother still on porn hub. Saw her recently taking it up the ass from mules. Left her a five dollar tip and she cried. She is incredible but you should not let her appear on porn hub just to buy you tendies. Get a job.
>>533502283Its gonna go up a lot before it goes down. Unless a deal is reached with Russia (it wont)
>>533502399Sure and when it does if you bet the right way you made money. But you can just bet to an absurd limit again if you want.
>>533502241not going to argue the root and types of liberalism with an LLM desu
After the genocide of Gaza by Israel, support for Israel is largely relegated to uncivilized, poor, backwater nations.In America, a similar trend occurs, with the poorer, older Southern regions forming Israel's support, and younger, educated, Northern, urban environments opposing Israel.
>>533502024>What I don't fully comprehend is the oil 'futures', don't they at some point have to meet with the actual price?Yes.I think people are misunderstanding the situation though.Hormuz is 20% of global oil. Not 90%.Oil prices are relatively inelastic, meaning that a small drop in production can lead to a large swing in price.Before the crisis, oil was trading around $60 a barrel. Right now it's $90. That's a 50% increase in price for a 20% drop in supply.It could potentially go back higher, and test again the peak it reached during the crisis ($105) and perhaps some more beyond.But people sometimes forget that markets are dynamic. If the price increases, this will create an incentive for other producers to increase their production.The risk is not so much to see oil trading at $400 a barrel, but rather seeing above-then-long-term-average price, for a long time. So perhaps $80/$90 is the new normal going forward.
>>533502723israelism is third worldism, evangelicals are mostly africans too
>>533502728hormuz is 50% of global oil exports, 30% of global fertilizer export and by proxy of the oil export another 10-20% of fertilizers
>>533502723Fuck's going on in Kenya and Nigeria?
This is just another example of what America and Israel expected from Iran during this bullshit ceasefire. Cuckwarfare like chabadist russia, never hit back, hold talks, complain and never do anything about it
>>533502484>your mom insultsThis kike has raped so many children, it started talking like one.>>533502711Because you don't know. You're just guessing. You think there is a thing like goy and kike communism. Completely made up and delusional. And you mix that with your notion of liberalism, which is country-bound, somehow. None of this is in line with political theories or common knowledge for that matter. And none of it is explained by you. No wonder you think explanations are LLM... You can barely form a coherent opinion on the matter.
New: Spokesperson for Iran’s Foreign Ministry Esmaeil Baqaei: “We have no plans for a next round of negotiations.” The United States, by adopting contradictory behaviors and continuously violating the terms of the ceasefire, has shown that it is not serious about pursuing the diplomatic process. Recent actions by Washington, including breaches of agreements in Lebanon and attempts to impose a naval blockade on Iran that led to the attack on our country's commercial ship, are clear examples of "aggressive acts" according to United Nations resolutions. This obvious contradiction between words and actions intensifies the Iranian nation's distrust of America's intentions; therefore, Iran, prioritizing national interests and benefits, will make an appropriate decision regarding the continuation of the negotiation process.Source: Tasnim Newshttps://xcancel.com/DropSiteNews/status/20461431039631811351/3
>>533502766>hormuz is 50% of global oil exportsYes, but global exports != global productionThe price is affected by overall production.
>>533502852Spokesperson of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs: The transfer of nuclear stockpiles was never an option in negotiations At no stage of the current or previous negotiations has the transfer of Iran’s enriched uranium stockpiles to the United States or any other country been discussed or considered. This option is fundamentally not on the agenda of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The country’s firm position is to preserve its nuclear achievements within Iran’s territory, and the claims being circulated in this regard are completely rejected.Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Baqaei: Iran remains steadfast on its principled positions in the negotiations In response to the US's 15-point plan, Iran presented a 10-point proposal which, after extensive negotiations in Islamabad and a mediatory trip to Tehran, was turned into a specific package. Unlike the other side, which hinders progress in talks through constant changes in positions and media rhetoric, the Islamic Republic of Iran remains steadfast on its reasonable and fair positions. From the beginning, we have clearly stated our red lines and unacceptable issues, and insisting on them will not change our principled stances. Many of the details published in media are merely speculation and are unconfirmed2/3
>>533502820Wtf the Ukraine war is still going?
>>533502820I really wanna see a third front in Asia. CCP and Kim versus Japan and zogs. Now THAT would be no holds kino.
>>533502819Protestantism
>>533502883He also said:Relevant authorities will share results of an investigation into the U.S. firing on an Iranian vesselIran rejects any deadline or ultimatum put forward by Trump We will protect our national interests till as long as necessary. In the event of any new adventure by the United States or the Zionist regime, the armed forces will respond with full power and decisiveness.Iran has no enmity with any regional countries, and the actions of the past 40 days have been purely legitimate defense against the military aggressions of the United States and the Zionist regime. To ignore the fact that the operational/logistical facilities of some neighboring countries have been made available to the aggressors (U.S.-Israel) is a "fatal analytical mistake." Being an accomplice to the expansionist policies of the Zionist regime and ignoring its hegemonic goals will have irreparable consequences for the entire region. Regional countries should, instead of deflecting blame, prevent enemies from exploiting their soil against their neighbors.main cause of the crisis in the Strait of Hormuz is the military aggression by the United States and the Zionist regime since February 28, and they are directly responsible for the current situation.Given the repeated violations of the ceasefire and threats to Iranian ports and ships by the United States, the situation is still considered "wartime" and unilateral normalization of traffic is not possible; especially since the insecurity created has also deterred insurance companies and cargo owners from passage.The Islamic Republic of Iran, with a responsible approach, has put the drafting of new security protocols in the Strait on its agenda to ensure sustainable safety in the future and prevent the recurrence of aggressions.3/3
>>533502820America and Israel had expected to be victorious by now.
>>533502910Yeah, NATO strikes against Russia won't stop as long as the traitors are allowed to remain in the kremlin
>>533502820>the scale of fire is increasing...so many words to just sayTHE FIRE RISES>>533502910read the OP. wrong war general guys
>>533502947NATO aligned pundits expected Ukraine to lose in the first few weeks. Then they didn't expect the counter offensives to be successful. Now it's more or less stuck (since 2026).
>>533502995>more or less stuckUkraine has been losing territory every day THOUGH.
Is the USS George HW Bush still operating off the south of Africa?
>>533502995Didn't Russia make it all the way to Kiev on the opening? It sounds like their mistake was not going hard enough and stopping the blitz.
>>533502947They first expected Iran would collapse after getting rid of the ayatollah, after the ceasefire was declared, they tought Iran would accept being stabbed, like israel still attacking lebanon, or the gulf using their air force to attack Iran
Im awake now. Did anything happen?
>>533503059>was not going hardThey expected to be welcomed as liberators, they rushed fewer than 100k men to the northern front
>>533503051if so what a treat a all paid african safari
>>533503102No. Go back to sleep.
>>533503059They couldn't. They were overextended and the battle of hostomel was decisive. If they didn't retreat, the cost would've been catastrophic, potentially. If not, they would've pushed ahead.>the cope was: Ah yes, our feint worked perfectly. We actually wanted kherson and the east.>>533503027January 2026: ~319 km2February 2026: ~123 km2March 2026: ~23 km2Below is just the source. You don't have to read. The point is that it has slowed down significantly. This is unsustainable, if the goal was to take over Ukraine.>Russia’s army recorded almost no territorial gains on the frontline in Ukraine in March for the first time in two-and-a-half years, according to analysis of data from the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) conducted by Agence France-Presse. The Russian army has been slowing in its advances since late 2025 – because of Kyiv’s localised breakthroughs in the south-east of the country. Across the entire frontline, the Russian army seized only 23 sq km (8.9 sq miles) in March, losing territory in some areas, according to the analysis. This figure excludes infiltration operations conducted by Russian forces beyond the frontline, as well as advances claimed by the Russian side but neither confirmed nor denied by the ISW.>The Russian army made 319 sq km of gains in January and 123 sq km in February, which was then the smallest advance since April 2024. Its advance in March was the smallest since September 2023. The ISW attributed the slowdown to Ukrainian counteroffensives, but also to “Russia’s ban on using Starlink terminals in Ukraine” and “the Kremlin’s efforts to restrict access to Telegram”. The messaging app – very popular among Russians, including those fighting on the front – has been barely usable in recent months due to blocks imposed by the authorities. As in February, Russia lost ground on the southern section of the frontline, between the Donetsk and Dnipropetrovsk regions.
>>533503059Russia should have attacked every american base used to help Ukraine like Iran attacking american bases in the middle east, after the VDV was murdered, but cucktin offered talks and goodwill gestures instead
>>533503204>>Uкraine / Яussia discussions belong in uнg or cнug
>>533503219Would trigger article 5. For all the "we are fighting NATO" rhetorics, Russia wants to prevent that.>>533503240Yah, you are right. Let's stop...
>>533502964>traitors?Dude I have no idea what or eho you're talking about.The last time I heard about Ukraine, Candace Owens still worked at the Daily Wire
>>533503120>They expected to be welcomed as liberatorsNo way the leadership expected that right? I'd have to smack them if they did.>they rushed fewer than 100k men to the northern frontThat's part of what I mean, not enough people. Didn't know what the numbers were but 100k is laughable, they really understimated Ukraine.
>>533503133The only animal you'll see in the Cape is a jew with his wife and their nigger bull
>>533503240It's all connected, and it's valid to compare Iran's good performace vs Chabad russia cucking>>533503264Like how it got activated against Iran?
>strait's closed
>>533503204March is always slow due to weather.Also the NAFO classic>you're raping us too slowly >>533501280
>>533500313>>533500410Iran tiger status update: paper af
>>533503300Read article 6. Iran is not in the geographic area. I assumed it would, because I assumed article 5 was triggered during the Iraq war, but then it was triggered because of the WTC thing.Lool, lets stop talking about Ukraine. We can keep going but it's not very nice towards other piggers.>>533503316yeah ok bro, I am NAFO. Your team is winning. Good job nigga
>>533501198He's literally going for the same cope the Germans went for during the war against the british
>>533503283The average Russian believes that Ukrainians are also Russians, only they speak a wrong dialect of Russian. But this dynamic is a common theme in history. Two months ago, Americans believed that Iranians were also Americans in disguise, just waiting to have the regime be bombed away so they could become Californians.
>>533502723it doesn't matter though when they can just continue operations with impunity, money and arms are still rolling in
>>533503356NATO is an alliance just to serve american interests across the globe. You are delusional if you think it's limited to europe only. and what's there to activate when not a single european country has a real military?
>>533503338>us navy is scared of confronting paper tiger in the strait of hormuzEmbarrassing
>>533503393The answer to the question why you shouldn't get high on your own propaganda supply.>>533503439Have you read article 6 to realize you were wrong? Listen bro, there is no shame in being wrong. But to double down on being wrong is shameful. Look up article 6 and realize what it applies to. The clue is in the name...
>>533503283> I call upon all Iranian patriots who yearn for freedom. to seize this moment, to be brave, be bold, be heroic, and take back your country. America is with you. I made a promise to you, and I fulfilled that promise. The rest will be up to you, but we’ll be there to help.Trump's speech, February 28
>>533503454What are you talking about? Iran doesn't have a navy to confront. They are controlling hormuz with missiles from the ground and little speedboats. What do you want them to confront?
trump status?hormuz status?israel status?epstein status?
>>533503393But how could they think that? Like every country funded with colonialism showed, even if the people are literally the same, the geographical difference is enough of a difference for wars.
>>533503513>What do you want them to confront?the missiles and little speedboats that are controlling the strait? your navy is pretty worthless if it can't do that
>>533503513They have the power of laundry fires. Nobody knows how it works exactly but USA has no defense against this.>>533503548>senile>closed>delusional>playing fortnite in tel aviv
>>533501403Blackmail is hell of a thing this is for israel and nothing else
>>533503513If little speedboats and missiles are enough to close the strait, that's on you not on them. WW2 military doctrine is outdated gramps, time to move on
>>533503562>fundedfounded*
>>533503513go in and liberate the strait you fucking pussies, the world no 1. world power can't handle speedboats and some missiles ? kek
>>533503486Why do you think Trump was bitching NATO is so fucking useless for not helping America fight against Iran? They have no serious military capabilities, russian oligarchs, and politicians living and owning businesses in europe is the only thing they have that makes Russia not attack them
>>533503338>BUTSu fucking sick of these tranians
>>533503513So paper tiger missiles and speedboats stop the mightiest navy on the oceans from forcing the strait open lmao. Remind me who is the paper tiger in this scenario.
>>533503548>trump status?gay>hormuz status?gay>israel status?scared>epstein status?who?
>>533503204>They couldn't. They were overextended and the battle of hostomel was decisive. If they didn't retreat, the cost would've been catastrophic, potentially. If not, they would've pushed ahead.So I imagine they should have went in with way more people to avoid that, right?
>>533503595NA.... TO>NA>article 6No more words needed. It's that simple. You are not getting it because you are too lazy to look it up. Embarrassing fr bro, ngl. We are on the same side but I'm disappointed regardless.
>>533502868the damage and supply crunch is much more severe due to it, the exports set the price on the global markets thats why the saudis are so influential on oil prices
>>533503672AME...RI....CAN...... INTERESTS
>>533503356I imagine it wouldn't trigger 5 because the US is the aggressor as well.
Demand destruction can't save us.>https://x.com/CRUDEOIL231/status/2038679991127539748>In 2016, the FED conducted excellent research on oil price elasticity. At the time, they estimated the elasticity of oil demand and supply using a SVAR model.>Their analysis put the short-term global oil demand elasticity at around -0.1. This means that for every 10% increase in price, demand drops by a mere 1%, suggesting that the market as a whole is extremely inelastic.
>>533503562Again, this is how empires work. The English conquered the Welsh and the Scots, they consider them silly cousins who speak bad English, but they wouldn't let them go. If Scotland had voted to leave the United Kingdom (a colonial entity, it's an English kingdom) and remain in the European Union, we would have seen resistance from London similar to that shown by Moscow towards Kiev. It's a pathological relationship of affection and manipulation.
>>533503664Maybe. You're judging it with hindsight. They lost so much equipment and it wasn't sustainable, so they withdrew. But let's respect the thread.>>533503697The argument is retarded. I'm arguing the North Atlantic Treaty part of NATO. You argue vibes. >>533503715Exactly, that is my other argument but it doesn't matter because this nigga refuses to do some fucking reading. But you are right: It's only triggered in defensive situations. Hence "terrorists" attacking wtc was an angle USA could use to justify triggering article 5.
>>533503563You can't do that with a navy. That makes no sense.>>533503569How can we confront the laundry fires?>>533503579Yes they can close the strait, but to propose confronting it with a navy is retarded. Duh.>>533503591You can't do that with a navy, you are retarded.>>533503621YOU CANNOT STOP PEOPLE FROM FIRING MISSILES 10 MILES INLAND WITH A NAVY. AND THE US NEVER CLAIMED IT WOULD. WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LMAO WHAT AM I READING..
>diesel reserves run out in 3 weeksAusbros... are you ready for the PetroWars
>>533503820you are the world no 1. super power shithead OPEN THE STRAIT
>>533503680Yeah, they have the lowest marginal cost of production, so they tend to drag prices down.
/pig/bros, I've been thinking, since we have managed to not split perhaps we should be the intermediary for talks between /chug/ and /uhg/ to reconcile their differences
>>533503845we are. once we finish strangling the IRGC and let the moderate government take control, we will work out a peace agreement to open the strait
>>533503820The whole purpose of you navy is to keep the straits open. Go back to work, lazy cunts
>>533503820>You can't do that with a navy.can't do that with anything short of a ground invasion or evaporating the mountains with hundreds of nukes and trump has no balls for either and so the mighty us military is defeated once again
>>533503872In 2 weeks?
>>533503876no, the purpose of the navy is to strangle iranian exports/imports>>533503881it takes an IQ above 80 to understand the plan. you may want to sit this out
>>533503871Absolutely, Paki posters should bake the thread and Matthew the kike should be the special envoy to peace on 4chan.org/pol
>>533503715>it wouldn't trigger 5Article 5 is not a Pokemon with its own willpower.It's an article that any NATO member can invoke at any time if they think it's useful. And there is no particular expectation, it literally just triggers an emergency meeting of NATO country representatives.The reason it's not used often is that generally you don't need it to talk to other NATO countries.
>>533503897yes in 2 weeks, it's not like we literally took control of an iranian carrier yesterday or anything
>>533503905>he thinks there is a planlmao
did anyone ever figure out what this is?
>>533503941i can't fathom how stupid you'd have to be to not understand what the plan is. i'm going to stop replying to you
>>533503964Boiled garloid filet.
>>533503922we should send the khaza tranny and the dominican sperg as our two envoys
>>533503964ultra processed american goyim foreskin with some black pepper
>>533503832Haven't they been saying that for the past 6 weeks?
>>533503972>i can't fathom how stupid you'd have to be to not understand what the plan isso what is this brilliant 4d move?>i'm going to stop replying to youtoo bad, that cope plan of yours could've been funny
>>533503939You Somali'd a merchant ship. And? Pool is still closed lil bro.
>>533503924Yeah, but it has a geographical limit. It's not like USA can park a ship in front of China, let it get hit and then invoke article 5.>It's an article that any NATO member can invoke at any time if they think it's usefulIf it's within the confines of the treaty, yes... If Trump shits his pants, he couldn't trigger article 5 in a meaningful way, just because his diapers got attacked by JD Vance's wife's curry.
>>533504051Some retards don't understand economics.>I have three days of food in my fridge. Thus I will start starving in three days.
Touska status?
>>533503964Unironically I think it's a piece of ultra processed gyro meat
reminder
>>533500433hey anon, is this in the arabah valley near timna? if so, can you detect some copper slags on the ground? or maybe pottery sherds etc?
>>533503964
>>533504259Roy cohn was a precursor of Epstein they been running the show for a long time right about now
>>5335044060.3 grams of salt per 4 slices
>>533503972>Trust the plan fellow goyim The plan do what the blackmailers tell you to do
>>533504406>Those "nutrients"jesus
Another day of troon seething and trump victory
>>533504071NATO is dieing anyway also what israel wants because they want a piece of turkey after Iran after the inevitable class they are gonna have in Syria.
>>533503338
>>533504792this is what you're fighting for
>>533504918Based and patriot pilled, trump is for the people
>>533504961Kek
>>533504796ok. But can USA unilaterally disband NATO? I think nobody can. They are (or were?) a big military power in the alliance. It doesn't mean it's ultimately broken without them. Just that a lot of member nations need to increase military expenditure to make up for the loss. Furthermore, weapons systems and equipment is standardized among all member nations. Decoupling from USA would be extremely tedious and expensive. I'm no military expert by any means, so pretty sure someone else here could make better statements on it.---I'm not a NATO fan. Not in the slightest. But in these times, it doesn't have alternatives. Turkey for sure is glad to be in it, seeing how Israel is saying unhinged shit, as per usual. I'm pretty sure lots of nations will support if Israel were to attack. If USA would attack... now that is a crazy scenario. No idea what practical implications it would have (with regards to nato, middle east, USA, EU, Russia, China, Iran). But it is extremely unlikely that either nation would attack Turkey any time soon.(with regards to alternative: EU has clauses pertaining to defensive actions, if a EU member is attacked. There are alternatives but Turkey would be excluded from that, for example)
>>533503964>>533504180>>533504406More like Goy-ro slopices
>>533501851surfin
>>533503939>carrierIt was a tanker
Why do tacos and lies operate as a one-way ratchet? Every time Trump declares the war is over the price drops dramatically. When it's realized this is fantasy it goes up but not to where it was. Then he announced another great and final victory and it goes even lower, rinse, repeat.Could he literally bullshit his way back to $3 gas? He bullshitted is way into the presidency and everything else so it seems the universe just confirms to his desires despite everything.
>>533505228If America and turkey are not in NATO there is no army left its a practical reality, I for one can’t wait for the American occupation army to go away finally after 80 years of occupation.
>>533505340I thought it was a cargo ship?>just checkedIt is.
>>533503338Why is their family on board and why don't they shoot at something else?
>>533505228he needs a 2/3 senate majority to even leave, that's not happeninghe just wants you to do his dirty work
Why is Trump escalating this stupid ass war again???
>>533505228> Turkey for sure is glad to be in it, seeing how Israel is saying unhinged shit, as per usualAmerica is NATO and they do what israel tells them to do greater israel is not gonna build itself
I believe Trump could be the greatest pirate we've never heard of. Who knew that 26' we were going to be plundering Iranian Commerical Cargo ships. Taking what we can. Never giving back!
>>533503871need a useless paki flag to do that
>>533505352Supply and demand is still a thing bro
>>533502852>New: Spokesperson for Iran’s Foreign Ministry Esmaeil Baqaei: “We have no plans for a next round of negotiations.”Araghchi replacement?I don't think he's an idiot and I'm sure he had the best interest for Iran going into that meeting but he totally misread trump and especially vance. He didn't make any serious progress, got no respect from anybody and was completely humiliated this weekend. And for better or worse he's now associated with this mess, Spanish local media even portrayed him as a moderate and that makes him look weak inside Iran and on the international space.If there's no extension to this ceasefire Iran will have to appoint a new negotiator.
>>533505373No idea why you would exclude Turkey. Did they signal any intent of leaving NATO? Also, I would also like USA to fuck off.>>533505428Yeah, all the NATO yapping is nothing besides autistic screeching. Good point on the 2/3rds majority. That being said, it can't be disbanded willy nilly in the first place (not unilaterally).>>533505473No, you are just being reductive for no reason. Simplifying reality doesn't make objective reality simpler. It just scopes your understanding of it.
>>533503338everyone is a cuck here, its even worse than urkraine-russia
>>533505504They don't need to come to the table. We can just keep stealing from their cargo ships at the blockade.
>>533505523NATO is a key asset to the GAE. If they do anything they'll try to find to a way to kick Turkey out.
>>533504792>>533504817>>533504961https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k3MoKDa-Lzs
>>533505523Israel is pushing America to kick out turkey its allready in the making and israel calls the shot because they have blackmail on the entire congress and executive branch it seems this is not speculation and israel needs to hurry and they know it the only support they have is 60+ boomers that still watch tv
>>533505504Araghchi was always a moderate, maybe less so than the likes of Zarif or Rouhani, but his behavior this weekend was still pretty standard. Iran rotates guys in and out of these positions depending on what they want to achieve. If they want to take a hawkish tone, they bench the Araghchi types, and when they feel there’s a chance for good-faith negotiation, Araghchi is brought back to the fray. As of now, Araghchi has played his part and its time for the true hardliners to have their fun until the US/Israel coalition dials down its aggression.
>>533505228>ok. But can USA unilaterally disband NATO? I think nobody can.USA cannot disband NATO technically, but if they left the remaining countries would be forced to re-organize, quickly.
>>533505559on what legal basis?>>533505647we agree on a few vibes based opinions but the difference is I don't draw the same conclusions. Israel pushes America around and USA can fuck off. But they can't willy nilly kick people out and make unilateral decisions. Obviously, they could move troops from NATO countries and be obstructionist all the way. Now just tell me: You at least agree there is a legal limit to the US-kvetching, bullying and sabotaging NATO, right? That being said, NATO countries hold US bonds (for now). There is so much damage countries in this alliance can inflict and the wouldn't necessarily break the alliance per se.>>533505728Agreed. This is the baseline we can agree on. But I'm telling other anons to not add headcanon to it.
>>533505541Nope, no one will beat russian cuckwarfare technique
>>533505775kick countries out*my bad, didn't mean to anthropomorphize countries like a tard
>>533505686I highly doubt they think these talks will go anywhere like previous talks allready proofed like blowing up the negotiators and their senpaitachi i think it’s just a show for the world to show they want peace and they want peace but know America will do what israel orders them to do.
>>533505496But the futures market doesn't have to ever reflect the actual selling price. If the futures market is based on the price in a month, and continues to believe things will get better soon (despite being fooled again and again), then can't the futures price always stay much lower than the real price?Of course consumer prices are based on the real price, so I could see where the CNBC WTI ticker continues to say $80 oip for months, but prices at the pump spiral up and up and up.
SPAIN>“The time has come for the EU to break its association agreement with Israel,” Sánchez said on Sunday. “We have nothing against the people of Israel – quite the contrary. But a government that breaks international law – and thus breaks the values and principles of the EU – cannot be our partner.”REPLY FROM ISRAEL>“We won’t accept a hypocritical lesson from someone who has a relationship with totalitarian regimes that violate human rights, such as Erdoğan’s Turkey and Maduro’s Venezuela,” Israel’s foreign minister, Gideon Sa’ar---Israel is doing some real retarded shit against Turkey.
>>533505817True but you kinda have to go through the motions with these types of matters so you can tell allies and people at home who are scared that you gave it an honest shot. If Trump understood diplomacy, he'd act in a similar way. That way when the talks failed, he could at least say on TV that they tried diplomacy and people would believe it, leading them to be more likely to support his war. He will still say it, but it's not gonna flip many people to his side.
>>533505890This is a really dangerous game Israel is playing. Obviously the EU will go the Turkey because they have actually aligned interests and a huge amount of trade and other relations.
>>533505890piss vs shit kind of fight
>>533505775Oke if you think so I don’t NATO is nothing without the USA and Turkey and NATO dieing is a good thing for europe because its entire goal in Western Europe was keep the Americans in the Germans down and the russians out. After NS2 and you still support the occupation army you are not thinking straight
>>533505523The US leaving NATO for real would lead to a lot of problems even if we push aside military equipment, supply chain management and the fact that basically everything runs on american software.Turkey would become the biggest NATO army in Europe and the alliance and due to an increasingly fractured world they'll start making more demands for example EU admission after being a candidate for decades.I don't think anyone in Spain would care too much but France, UK and Germany still live in their own little world where time stopped after the soviet fall and will never accept Turkey as an equal.>>533505686The thing is israel never dialed down their attacks during this ceasefire, it's still too early to try diplomacy.
>>533505352look up dated brent, futures is just gambling and trying to predict the price.Pump prices are rising regardless of what orange nigger types .
>>533505988The UK, Germany, France and like half the Euroblock are insolvent. They'll learn to love the cockroach king pretty fucken quick if the US dips or let's this whole situation fester for another couple months.
>>533505647>>533505775>>533505988As a radically anti-Erdoğan guy, I'm now starting to see how every move he's made in external politics was well justified and correct. (Russia balancing act, S-400 purchase, intervention in foreign wars in the region, the israel asskissing behind the scenes but anti-ZOG stance in public, etc.)Even the Syria intervention, which everyone including me was opposed to and criticized for years>>533505955>>533505728>>533505228NATO is nothing without US and Turkey
>>533505860>But the futures market doesn't have to ever reflect the actual selling price.they do have to converge closer to the contract close-out date which is April 30th for Brent
>>533505860The difference in price between futures and spot price will settle at some point. There's an interesting tweet on it but you could ask an LLM to explain what happens if the futures contracts expire and spot price remains high. Who is going to eat the cost and how will it affect futures onward?>>533505955You keep excluding Turkey for some reason. But you have ignored the fact that there is no reason to exclude them. I haven't even argued for the European defense industry but obviously they are not nothing. Especially with Poland, Sweden and Finland, as well as Germany and France gearing up production. EU has the advantage of specialization.Regarding NATO membership: The point is that you can only reason that one member would leave voluntarily, and if USA would do so (with 2/3rds majority; imo unlikely), then why would Turkey leave? It makes no sense. Why would they? >>533505988checked. And yeah: I did mention that before. It's a real issue but it's an unlikely scenario in the short term. US supply chains also depend (for a smaller part) on Europe-based suppliers. Decoupling is extremely tedious for all parties involved, right?>Turkey would become the biggest NATO army in EuropeWe are in a phase of gearing up. Ever since Ukraine in a sense. Also, there is now a close relationship between EU and Ukraine, which wouldn't be NATO but could be a player in new alliances.What I'm saying is that all of this is extremely co-dependent of factors we haven't mentioned yet. USA wouldn't leave easily, and if they would, then it would create issues for them (e.g. economically, if EU/Japan/SK retaliates by selling bonds at a discount, taking the hit but essentially crippling USA).>>533506206Maybe without Erdogan, Turkey would've been in the EU. I really think it's a pity that never happened. EU is at fault here. They promised it for a while but never gave a real path forward.
>>533505775>on what legal basis?there is no legal basis for anything anymore so the American flag is correct in that they can just keep confiscating ships heading to Iran. Since he's America-brained however, he doesn't realise that Iran can just do the same to ships inside the Persian Gulf that hold assets that Americans have an interest in.
>>533506312I misclicked and meant to reply to the leaf. My bad.
>>533500410/pig/ is always wrong ffs
/pol/ Fixed>your welcome
>>533506148I think Europe needs to suffer if they're ever gonna change for the better. Same goes for the rest of the West for the most part.
>>533506295Is it possible the US government is suppressing the price, buying shorts, knowing that they can make good no matter the settlement price from the SPR?It's hard to avoid the impression there's manipulation, but then that doesn't explain the incredibly bullish equities market there's no way to rig that (right?)
>>533506398>on PC, no adblock
>>533506295>Maybe without Erdogan, Turkey would've been in the EUHis first administration is the admnistration that made most progress for EU membership, actually. He just had to not go full Islamist to be more western aligned and our relationships would be better today.Even then we wouldn't have been let into the EU though. When we became a "full candidate" and started doing everything EU demanded, they quickly put Cyprus into the EU (???? like, what the fuck? Put Israel in too while you're at it) and started jerking us around on the Cyprus issue.EVEN THEN, we kept it going. Gayreeks refuse to accept any reasonable compromise on the Cyprus issue. Look it up. The Turkish side made very reasonable demands and concessions. It was fucking Greek sided (President Greek, vice president Turkish) and they still didn't accept. They want the whole island and the Turkish Cypriots out(who have lived there for hundreds of years, same as the greek cypriots). So they can only keep half of it.
>>533506488I dont know how people do it
>>533506295European drone manufacturing is starting to become an existential issue for Russia. Their industries across the board should be much stronger but they're cucked. I feel a lot of it is USA manipulating things to ensure they're #1 by a large margin.
>>533506430Japan is already doing it to indirectly help prop up their currency a bit, wouldn't be surprised if other central banks or sovereign wealth funds are doing the same
>>533506580Trump explicitly wants europe to arm themselves. They still buy some things from us of course but without a European manufacturing base NATO is fucked
>>533506430If I'd knew the answer to that, I'd be a trader. lol. But I'm going to give you one answer soon. There is this one tweet that sums it up and I need to just let an LLM summarize and apply it to the current situation.>>533506540Yeah, I said that EU was to blame (EU is at fault). I really regret the fact that they didn't create a legit path for Turkey. You are 100% correct imo btw. Will look up some more about Cyprus.
So is Iran just cucking?The Sha would never compromise
>>533506488>on mobile, no adblock
>>533506605The UAE just up and ran out of dollars, could be something there>>533506640They could be a leading drone manufacturer, maybe. Defense is in a real weird spot right now with many aspects of it becoming obsolete. And in 10 years many more aspects will be obsolete. What if we see "jet hunter" drones? God knows what things will be like.
>>533506723Why would they brazenly violate the ceasefire when it's over tomorrow anyway? If they did that it would just give their enemies a new mantra to spam on Fox News every night.
>>533506148>>533506206>>533506295Erdogan has done a good job fending off foreign interference but he's s 72yo he'll have to select a successor pretty soon. >Trump has destroyed the republican party for the next elections at the very least so a big democrat win is guaranteed.>European elites are power tripping, they just tested new coercion and elections interference tactics in eastern europe that no doubt they'll employ everywhere else:>>Disqualifying parties>>Arrest politicians just before the elections to keep them out of ballots>>NGOs running wild funding opposition movements>Greece have gotten too close to Israel and since the former doesn't want a strong Turkey and the later has gotten desperate to eliminate all their enemies it's fair to assume they'll start serious discussions regarding a post-Erdogan Turkey.I'm convinced those retards will try to plant a puppet and that it'll be an absolute disaster.What kind of disaster? I don't know but it won't be good for Europe's international image and the economy that's for sure.
>>533506640>without a European manufacturing base NATO is fuckedFrance is the second weapons exporter in the world.The problem with EU is not its intellectual, industrial, scientific or economic potential; it's the current political leadership crippling it in the name of retarded liberal principles.A sufficient shock could stir it back in the right direction.
>>533506723conflict is almost 100% guaranteed to resume soon, US "negotiators" kushner and witkoff came to pakistan only to lure important iranian people and assassinate them.
Where is Colin Baker?
>>533506723>So is Iran just cucking? No I think both sides are back to what they usually doWar's already over but both are probably haggling and making up news cycles until the US just jumps shipThey'll probably say the US gets to say the strait is opened and Iran gave up but the toll both is open and Iran will pinky promise they won't attack Israel for a month, sanctions will not be lifted but oil in the strait will be traded using CYN which Marco Rubio already hinted atTrump will be able to say he didn't cuck out but it will just be a new normal and he'll go back to talking about attacking Cuba and Brazil while nettanyahoo will try and salvage a victory
consider the following
>>533507030I read this headlne with YMCA playing in my head
>>533506928>it's the current political leadership crippling itYes>On the name of liberalismNo, you have to look at the EU as the new HRE but even more dysgenic and retardedIt's all political chess playing of different powers trying to take the whole empire for themselves while the smaller states act as players pushing one power or the otherGermany is losing the mandate so it's a free for all between France and the other states trying to either revive the germs or carve out their own little entente with France like Croatia, Spain and Romania
Iran continues to send ships through Trump's "blockade" because they don't have anywhere near enough boats to stop them.
>>533507030Where's the Trump Iran war timeline anyway, I need to update the few days that I've missed
Any updates on the war and how it gets me a Sephardic gf?
>>533506855Brooooo computer crashed two times.I don't really agree with your assessment of Eastern Europe. It's a fact Russia funds influence actions in the west. I could list 5 media companies that got shut down (list is more extensive though). Then there are plenty of political parties with weak or strong ties to Russia. All over Europe but especially pernicious in the east.I don't blame Russia; It's easy to undermine the EU by having control of at least one country.Regarding your Greece-Turkey friction argument and closeness to Israel: I'll take your word for it.
>>533507153europe is dead, anonwe have no energy. norway has some, but not nearly enough. france has nukes, but not nearly enough. we have no path to reconciliation with russia (all our politicians are 10 years deep into fucking with them, and they ain't lettin go of power)and the gulf is obviously fucked for the foreseeable futuresimultaneously, our boomers are retiring, while at the same time we have millions of mena immigrants who are only barely kept pacified due to excessive gibsand what happens when we can't afford those pensions and those gibs?and on top of it all, our TFRs range from 1 in poor countries to 1.4 in france, which is the best of all, so we can look forward to ever dwindling populations in the futuretheoretically, all our problems are fixable.we COULD make friends with russia to get their oilwe COULD start investing in nuclear like crazy we COULD roll back feminism and the worst aspects of neoliberalism to help people start procreating againand we COULD get rid of all our belligerent, benefit-draining immigrants but we won't do any of that, because those are all the foundational policies that our political class stands onso we're doomed.
Is Trump a TACO or a pirate? /pig/ told me Trump would never shot a civilian ship and that the blockade was toothless.
