The amount of people, even here on 4chan, who aggressively argue for blue because their stereotyped thinking will not even allow them to fully read the question and comprehend the choice being offered, is quite impressive.Actually adds another layer to the game I guess where pressing red is not only the objectively correct choice because it immediately ends the game for you, but pressing red will also ensure that the part of the population which has a really high chance to fuck everything up with their stupidity will disappear.
>>533958514my stereotyped thinking will not even allow me to fully read the question and comprehend the choice being offered
>>533958514Maybe the blue ones want to die?
im just not going to press it...ok
>>533958514You can't help stupid. Incentives are everything in life. No one does something without some incentive. Incentive means caring.
>>533958514>correct choice because it immediately ends the gameSelfish shitskin detected
>>533958514The correct answer is blue BECAUSE so many people are either misguided or can't comprehend the choice they're making. A significant percent of the herd will pick blue.Society immediately collapses if blue is <50% and most red pressers die shortly afterward anyway.
>>533958592>Press blue button and everyone lives.>Press red button and blue button people die.The correct answer is red button because in both scenarios there is no chance of dying from pressing the red button.
>>533958667I think we will do alright without you blue jews
if everyone presses the red button, no one dies
>>533958592You press blue and enter communism, you press red and enter the clean up crew against the commies
>>533958667blue is basically retarded pack prey that reads >would you rather enter a scenario where you have a chance of dying or one where you are safe no matter what?and pick the former option because it is worded as an us vs. them scenario and they sure as fuck are not going to pick the option that implies some personal decision rather than just handing responsibility over to the group.
>everyone lives if I press the blue button
>>533958514My brain is fried from drilling LSAT logic reasoning questions. Fuck this I press both and fart in the booth
>>533958514You always vote blue, because the tests claim is completely hypothetical, but being a goody good boy in other people's eyes is not.
I believe that all life is precious, thus I press blue
>>533958514What if my son pushed blue and I red?
>>533958852why did you raise an idiot?
>>533958867He is 4
>>533958671Is this a meme? The choice between no one dies and some people die you choose some people die? That shows that you're a shit person who has low morals.
>>533958889Tell Him to choose red
>>533958514I can guarantee you the idiots pressing the blue button are the same fucking retards that lined up for an experimental warpspeed drug over a cold with a 99% survival rate.
>>533958592Think of it as a "live" button and a "suicide" button. You press the red button if you appreciate life and want to live, and you press the blue button if you want to gamble on dying with a high probability. It's like MAID, only with a dice roll.
>Nooo we're not responsible for the people dying when we press the "people die" button!
>>533958889make new son after buttonpocalypse
>>533958514Im confused, why wouldn’t you press blue? Theres like a 0% chance it goes under 50 here, the 2nd option need to be framed as less than 50% press res then only the red survives to make it an actual hard choice
>>533958514Red choosers want the people who disagree with them to survive. Blue choosers want the people who disagree with them to die.
>>533958908That's not the choice. You're exactly the kind of person trapped in stereotyped thinking I was talking about.Strip away the loaded wording of the question and what's actually being asked is>Do you want to enter a game where the majority decides if you die or not?>Yes (blue)>No (red)Red bears zero responsibility for anyone's death, because everyone can press red and then nothing happens. They didn't buy their own survival at the cost of someone else's death, blue just killed themselves.Because in a scenario where people actually have to put their lives on the line rather than just a hypothetical where what >>533958813 said holds true, blue has zero chance of winning.
>>533958514I will press red because after every blue presser dies (more than 50% of aliens on other planets will press red), someone needs to take on the burden for helping the world recover.
>>533958908It's okay, only the retards with zero self preservation instinct will die. We're better off without them. Have you gotten a booster shot lately? You know covid is going around again.
>>533958914Is there a discussion before hand? Or are we just transported into a room?Can I convince my wife to press blue?
>>533958514My younger self would be team blue but then normies made stay at home due to the flu when I had no flu. And they wanted to force vax me. (But I did not take it is all.) And they all serve the jews blindly. Now I am team red and thats the only moral choice.
>>533958981You mean the exact opposite?
>>533958611>Lowering the chance of blue passing>Will die if red passesBased retard
>>533958983>presses the "people die button">"Actually it's the other guys who are responsible for the deaths, not me!"Red is moral cowardice disguised as virtue
>>533958845It's not a game theory situation
>>533958514>xitterif it's every single person in the world voting then pressing blue will guarantee dying because most (((humans))) are third worlders who are incapable of comprehending abstract concepts like "greater good" and will vote selfishly the only reason blue is winning is because of the overwhelmingly western online sample size, it is biased and does not represent reality
>>533959057It is for sociopaths
>>533959017She married you, she'll definitely press blue.
>>533958908How exactly is killing retards a bad thing? Explain yourself!
>>533958978>Theres like a 0% chance it goes under 50 hereImagine if you did this experiment in an online video game where people were invested in their account.You offer all players two buttons. The red one lets you keep your account with all your progress. If you press the blue one your account and all your progress is deleted... unless over 50% of players press the blue button.If you understand anything whatsoever about the human condition, you'd understand that 95%+ of players would press the red button. When there are real stakes and real danger to the selfish shit you care about (i.e. your life, your account, your prize, whatever) then most people revert to being selfish. Even people who virtue signal in public by pressing buttons on twatter are selfish when the stakes are real.If you don't think most people would press the red button, that just means you don't understand or accept what humans are like.
>>533958514Wow op you just realized most people are fucking retardedGood jobI mean you ever wonder why humanity always fucks things up? Because most humans are garbage
>>533958514At this point in my life I would press the red out of simple spite Nd nothing else.
I was thinking I would simply press the red button in the hopes that a lot of people would die to the benefit of the earth, animals and the remaining people. but yeah i get that you have nothing to lose by pressing red in the first place and only stand to lose anything by pressing blue. i feel like blue is a reference to leftists, they want to save the world even if it kills them.
>>533959048Everyone has to press one button or the other.A large number of idiots and children will press blue for a wide variety of reasons, this is not a thing you can avoid. Red is the "people die button."
>>533959075You don't know what game theory is
>>533959027Red is the consent button. If we accept red as a baseline then only the blue pressers die with their consent. If we accept blue as a baseline the red people live without their consent
>>533959072there is no selfish aspect to red.this is not a prison dilemma scenario where you buy a personal gain at the cost of someone else's suffering, because everyone can press red and then no one will die.you aren't voting to kill people if you press red, you are just not participating.you are however voting for your own potential death if you pick blue.
>>533958514>>533958739>>533958867You are a disgusting jew, part of the cancer of humanity that needs to be extricated if we want to pass the great filter.The only right answer is to vote blue, then go out and find all the red voters and kill them
>>533958514I didn't even vote for this shitHonestly I wouldn't even touch either button so both sides die
>>533959135blue will always die because "everyone" means ayylmaos too
>>533958514>red: 50% chance that survive only red>blue: 100% chance that survive blue and red
>>533958514Blue won, so seethe about it. Also you pressed red because you are a coward, not because you are smart.
>>533958983No you're just coping for being a bad person, the question is clear, vote blue and everyone lives, red and people die. The morally correct choice is everybody lives. This is clearly a forced meme at this point and being used to destabilise trust world wide. I do not think that lowly of the human race and believe most will chose the right option (blue).>>533958988like who talks like this? You sound like a bot>randomly brings up vaxfucking hell way to appeal to the crowd you cuck
the virtue signalers dilemmaYou are 100% safe if you press red, You would only press blue to protect anyone else who pressed blue, at great risk to yourself for absolutely 0 gain. Picking blue is a bad idea because you're literally burning yourself alive for a potentially imaginary counterparty. Its almost like you have 3 bottles in front of you, theres a red one which is safe, theres a green one which is poison, and a blue one which is 50/50 to be poison because of this wierd gimmick. Only actual idiots or people who think they're heros would pick anything other than the red one.If the thought puzzle was altered so it was like, if you are poor, or middle/lower class you are incentivized to press the blue button, it changes it up a little bit since now there is a reason to do it, but no. Its literally "Do you put a gun in your mouth to save the other idiots who put a gun in their mouth"
>>533958514>There are no consequences whatsoever, except by pressing blue you might die from something totally out of your control...Blue is simply the retarded choice.
>>533959096I believe Jesus said be a good shepard not "murder retards"
>>533959161>then go out and find all the red voters and kill themThat's just like pressing the red button but with extra steps, you jungle monkey retard.
>>533959106there is not even any real selfish aspect to pressing red because there is no limitation on how many people can press red.if you want to look at it from a psychology perspective, it's more about being cattle vs taking personal responsibility.if you picked red, you made the decision for yourself.if you pick blue, you outsource making the decision to the crowd (you'll also die for certain)
>you can press a button that kills you unless 50% of people press the button>or you can not press the button>WTF WHY AREN'T YOU PRESSING THE BUTTON, PEOPLE ARE GONNA DIE IF YOU DON'T!!?!?!?
>>533959248>here is not even any real selfish aspect to pressing red because there is no limitation on how many people can press red.No, not really. It's not really a dilemma per se, it's a right and wrong question and pressing the red button is the right answer.
That's not even a proper game theory question, because there is a choice that always results in the ideal outcome for both the individual and the collective. In an actual hawk/dove scenario, the hawk gets to have disproportionate advantage by breaking group solidarity but this doesn't happen here.You should all kill yourselves along with every xitter user for trying to force this as a heckin culture war meme.
>>533958514It's called being a DECENT HUMAN BEING.
>>533959048red isn't any more of a "people die" button than blue is.if everyone presses red, no one dies.the only people who are at any risk at all are those who press blue because they don't read the question. blue is the suicide button.
>>533958514You are a low level retard that doesn't understand that this is a test of character, not a test of logic. You are the kind of scum that will save himself and leave others behind, because they are "weak" or "dumb". In case of a disaster you'll walk over old people and children to save yourself. Nobody wants people like you around.
>>533959155many people will press blue for a variety of reasons, appeal to virtue, not comprehending the dilema, lack critical thinking, faith in humanity, etc.you have to understand and accept that these people will undoubtedly die because the overwhelming majority will press red either for selfish reasons or purely be cause they understand risk aversionit now falls onto those who have the capability of complex thinking to assert that if they do not actively go against logic and press blue, they will be condemning others to deathto continue to press red, once this is comprehended, is a selfish act
>>533958514The results says more about how trusting of others people are. The majority of people believe that others are fundamentally good and will press blue. In an all white world, pressing blue would be the correct choice. In a world with niggers and jews, the blue button pressers are of course wrong.
>>533958850If all life is precious, why choose the option that risks it?
>>533959297This.When everyone presses red, everyone survives at no cost to anybody.Pressing blue is playing Russian roulette, nothing else.
>>533958889That’s no excuse for being a retard
>>533959355That's not really a reasonable analogy. It would be more reasonable to say what if some weirdos climbed up on a small dangerous ledge to commit suicide. Would you climb up on the dangerous ledge to try to physically stop these morons from committing suicide at great risk to yourself?
>>533959387red risks the life of everyone except those who press red, pressing red is ultimately a deeply selfish act
>>533959372No.In a world with rational people, pressing blue should be out of the question, as it introduces a completely useless risk with no benefit at all.So if I assume that my fellow humans are somewhat rational, I must press red.
>>533959198>wants to appeal to the crowd>presses blue button >calls others cuckLolThe vax was basically the same question as this. "Take the shot so you don't get grandma sick" you were accepting a risk (a very dumb one) in hopes it lowers someone else's risk (it didn't). It's the same retard logic. I also notice you didn't deny taking the vax. Which gives prudence to my theory that the only people who press blue are the same shit brains that took the vax.
>>533959372>In an all white world, pressing blue would be the correct choicefacts and fugg.. maybe I chose red. This is still a forced meme being used to make people distrust one another
>>533958514See the problem with redfags is that you can argue about how red is the objective choice until the cows come home but at the end of the day people WILL vote blue. If red wins then anywhere between 1-49% of humanity effectively dies and the consequence of allowing that to happen would be far greator than just voting blue. So the choice is simple, vote blue and everyone lives and if blue loses then oh fucking well. I'd rather be dead than live in a world full of fart sniffing redditors and browns with a superiority complex, they can inherit that mess.
>>533959297For several threads nearly all the blue button arguments have been directly copy pasted from twitter
>>533959362re-read your own post.you already pointed out that the only people who pick blue are idiots, and that red is guaranteed to win.if your moral framework tells you that the correct choice here is to die alongside the blue idiots, I'd seriously reexamine it.
>all these redfags seethingLmao
>>533958514Don't worry: even though Trump is a jewish gigapedo of the highest order, I still hate liberals.
>>533958514I would kill the button creators
pressing red isn't even an actthe red button does nothing. It is logically equivalent to doing nothing
>>533959467Almost no one would push the blue button. You can make any thought experiment where this scenario is actually real, and you'd quickly realize that the probability of most people pushing blue is so unlikely it's basically impossible.
>>533958514This is really a dumb question.The only inherently safe choice is red.This would probably pan out different with actual consequences that as a simple question.I bet if we gathered 100 people and put a device on them, telling them:If over 50% of people press the Blue Button no one gets shock that may stop their heartIf under 50% of people press the Blue button only people who pressed the Red Button don't get shocked.Then had them press a button we're probably see a drastic flip. If not people may be retarded.We could also assign a monetary value to the button which may work too.Asking this as a question on the Internet doesn't really do anything tangible as everyone knows nothing will happen.
>>533959467you are just mad because you realize you were thinking about the problem incorrectly. dont be so attached! it an anonymous board! being wrong isn't a crime, getting your ego all wrapped up in it is a mistake!
>>533959290The red button says suicide is legal and the blue button says suicide is illegal
>>533959455Cowardly and selfish ain't the greatest traits to live life by>>533959459obviously I didn't take it, no the scenarios are not the same because covid was fake and gay and a risk to no one where voting red actually puts lives at risk.
>>533959477go back faggot
>>533959518>and you'd quickly realize that the probability of most people pushing blue is so unlikely it's basically impossible.Well apparently you're wrong because looking at OP's image more than half of the 90'000 voters picked blue. Sure, not relative to the entire fucking population of Earth but it counts for something in a broad sense. The situation doesn't specify who gets the choice too because by "everyone" I have to assume that includes literally everyone, children, babies, unsound of mind, etc. So in an event that red wins then there's gonna be a lot of dead babies.
>>533959597>pretending to be a blue pusher for several threads just to stir up pointless dramakys
Im just not gonna press any button
>>533959518>Almost no one would push the blue button.Majority invariably would push it because of the question worded like this, unless you convince said majority to choose red or if red is overweeningly ahead (70+).
>>533959481that's not at all what I'm arguingI'm simply saying, as I already did in my original post, that pressing blue for any reason is a guaranteed deathpressing red is inherently and ultimately selfish regardless of how you justify it
>>533959441No , those who press blue committ a suicidal act and want other people to join them , they are the selfish people
>>533958514Empathetic white people will pick blue, so I choose blue, simple as.
>>533959297which is what makes this question more interesting than the usual dilemma scenarios imo.with the dilemma scenarios, there is no right or wrong answer, you always walk down the same path of reasoning from both sides really.with this question, there is a very obvious correct answer, yet plenty of people are incapable of seeing it because they just get mentally railroaded into picking the wrong one due to how the question is worded.shows that even a trap as obvious as this one can still be sold to a lot of people fairly easily by slapping some loaded wording onto it.
>>533959621>Well apparently you're wrong because looking at OP's image more than half of the 90'000 voters picked blue.Well, that's when there are no consequences to pressing blue or red. But if you try to imagine a scenario where this shit would actually happen, then things changes a lot. Pressing a button on twatter to virtue signal is easy and makes a person feel good. Pressing a button in real life that might kill you is something else entirely.Imagine if the government decided to increase your taxes to 90% of your income. You can press a red button and then you pay 0% taxes... or you can press a blue button and you get to pay 90% taxes... unless most other people also press the blue button.If you think most people actually would push the blue button in that scenario, you simply don't understand how humans work. Most people would press the red one. They'd say they would push the blue one in public, but they'd push the red one.
>>533959640You only know whats on twitter if you use it, you admitted to it, no off you go. Bet you have a cute name and avatar too, faggot.
>>533959579>voting red actually puts lives at riskRetarded people's lives, while my own life remains completely safe. I'm okay with that.
>>533959674majority of people are non pressers. even if we have 33% red 34% blue and 33% nonpressers only red lives
>>533959198>the question is clear, vote blue and everyone livesOnly if most people pick blue. Otherwise, you and everyone else who picked blue die.>red and people dieUnless they pick red, which is obviously the safe option.>>533959297Game theory scenarios can have single equilibria.>>533959362>to continue to press red, once this is comprehended, is a selfish act>to not commit suicide is a selfish act
>>533959355kek, that's a retarded as shit analogy.the correct analogy would be that there's an empty burning building, with no one being at risk at all.some retards decide to go into it, do you go in with them and die?
>>533959702because its not that hard to find the original poll and see the replies below you retardyou admitted that you actively browse it to even put in the effort for these shitthreads
My enlightened answer is that it doesn't matter what you pick, because normies will guarantee a blue outcome anyway.
>>533958514So if we all pick red everyone lives with 0 risk? Who the fuck would pick blue?
>>533959621look at it again. it got 10M views and only 90,000 votes. so only a very small percentage voted blue
>>533959701Attaching real life consequences to this choice, it's absolutely easier to convince people to vote blue than red. Remember:>For everyone to live, you need to convince 51% to vote blue>For everyone to live, you need to convince 100% to vote redTaking the entire human population into considerion (7 billion) it's far easier to get people to vote blue by sheer statistical probability.
>>533959784Suicidal, oversocialized people.
Blue would work in a homogenous, developed society. If all browns are to be included, one cannot bet on going blue. One has to pick red and then then hopefully the next time blue is a viable choice. Preferably by uplifting others, but it's fairytale material.
>>533958514Theres no consequence to voting red. Blue voters create the consequence and make life harder for the rest of us. Its actually a brilliant analogy for our society.
>>533959701>Well, that's when there are no consequences to pressing blue or redAs is there zero consequence of arguing for red, but when reality comes you don't know how you'll react, and the reality is blood will be on your hands. Who knows how that's gong to effect you. Is your vote anonymous or not? Will you red voters consider the lynch mobs who come after once blue wins and be swayed? You don't know either..>hypothetical slopyou got nothing
>>533959701If people were actually lined up infront of a guillotine and understood that pressing red kept them from any chance of getting thier head cut off, then yes, I believe red could possibly win.
>>533958514>pick purple>everyone dies
>>533959362You realize that pressing blue is the wrong choice that only retards make, so therefore we all need to risk our lives and take the wrong and retarded option to save wrong retards. Why would I do that? Why should people capable of thinking risk their lives to save retards who can’t think and therefore put themselves in mortal danger for absolutely no reason?
>>533959807you live in a country with compulsory voting so your opinion is skewed. most people don't vote. in that case red is the live button and blue is the suicide button.
>>533959757lmao no mate thats called my brain
>>533959689For a scenario like this you'd have to stack assumptions>most people that you present this question to will not actually understand each choiceI agree with that assumption, from there you go in two directions>if you assume most of these people will pick the selfish choice because most people are selfish, you'll pick the selfish choice for protection>if you think most people will pick the choice that seems altruistic even though it really isn't, you can either trust in them and pick the selfish choice anyway since you'll be safe either way, or take the risk to join them if you assume they're the majorityThere isn't much to say other than that, it depends on your judgement of what you think most people are like and your tolerance for taking personal risk for the possibility of saving those who misunderstood it.
>>533958852Your wife cheated on you
>>533959742Nonpressers doesn't count in this calculation at all. They just have to live (or die) with a chose that other will choose.
>>533959807If people were that inherently altruistic, this world would be an utopia instead of what it's actually like. People with means would gladly share of everything they have, instead of hoarding it for themselves, which is what most people actually do.In the ultimate case where there are direct consequences for the individual, the individual chooses selfishness. You just have to look at the state of the world to know this is true.And since this is true, and people who press the red button would be the overwhelming majority in real life, that means pressing the blue button is just doing a suicide.
>>533959135>A large number of idiots and children will press blue for a wide variety of reasonsThe stipulation is a private vote, not one in which you are necessarily prevented access to anyone else after being made aware of the choice to the point at which you actually cast your vote. You are reading things into the question that are not there because of personal moral positions you hold. Which I have a feeling is the entire purpose of this question being posed at all.
>>533959854In a literal life or death matter, I think most people are going to vote aka push one of the two buttons. This isn't voting for an elected leader.
if you press red then you will live and people will dieif you press blue then you will die along with several others because all the aliens in existence are also voting on thisdon't be selfish, there needs to be people alive after everyone else dies to take on the burden of rebuilding society
>>533958908>That shows that you're a shit person who has low morals.I'm not gonna cry for the stupid people who voted blue just to be petty against the red button voters in this faux Dem v. Rep thought experiment.Red provides zero consequences if you vote for them. Voting blue also has no consequences only up until red overtakes them, by which point it becomes "immoral" to vote red when the correct answer was always red from the beginning.You unironically have to be suicidal to vote blue.
>>533959467>but at the end of the day people WILL vote bluehttps://youtu.be/zTEG-cekeoM?t=212
>>533958514What if everyone had the option to press red repeatedly?
>>533959821>and the reality is blood will be on your handsNo, it really won't. The blood is on the hands of whoever or whatever force is forcing this button pressing deal on everyone.But that aside, most people absolutely do live just fine with other peoples' blood on their hands if that saves themselves, even if that doesn't apply in this scenario. Refer to any war or conflict or big crisis scenario in history to verify.
>>533959931nothing would happen because the red button does nothing
blood is on your hands if you don't risk yourself to protect the morons who could literally just press the right button
>>533959877if you press blue you are trusting people to not only vote, but to vote in the interest of the collective, even at a potential detriment to themselves.
>>533959888Yeah, I doubt the vast majority of humans alive are going to vote red. It would be easier to just vote blue because practically you only need a 51% majority so nobody dies, that's a more practical outcome than having red win and hoping that a negligble amount of the population dies.
>>533959523>This is really a dumb question.it's what made it interesting imo.for any actual dilemma scenario, the answer comes down to your personal world view and how you value yourself vs the group and so on.for this one, the answer is clear, yet plenty of people still say "blue", even though pressing blue is the option that actually starts putting people at risk.because those people are trained to always offload all decisions onto the group to avoid personal responsibility, even in a scenario where doing though creates only risk and zero gain.it explains pretty well how all these suicidal policies in the Western world could pass so easily. a large part of the population does not seem to mind entering risky scenarios as long as they can shirk personal responsibility.as long as that risk seems hypothetical or removed around some corner at least, the behavior would probably change if the consequences were immediate and personal.so, if you want to fix voting, you really need to get people to understand the direct consequences onto their own lives that will happen depending on what vote they cast.
>>533959701A neglected contextual question is whether other button pressers have skin in the game or not.If they have skin in the game, they'd mostly press red, therefore red is the correct choice to make.If they don't have skin in the game, like xitter users, they might instead be playing a virtue signalling game and say they'd press the blue button. Even in this case, red is the correct choice, because it makes the right people seethe.So no matter the context, red is the correct choice to make.
Of course you always press blue the button to save people who misclicked or stupid or genuinely good people who care about the latter.And you do it for selfish reason too. I don't want to wake up in a world where 20%+ population suddenly die. It will be economic collapse. You might think it will free resources but it's bullshit. Red will be fucking screwed.
>>53395948910/10 idk how you aren't getting (you)'s this is gold
>>533958652Can you explain what the fuck you mean by that?>>533958667Why would society collapse if the stupidest and most suicidal less than half died?
>>533958611This is correct. Also, tell your brown friends to do the same.
>>533960036I feel like all these western flag posters are actually immigrants
>>533960026Damn this ladyboy is retarded
>>533960003>Yeah, I doubt the vast majority of humans alive are going to vote red.Well, that would be egg on your face when the tally was in I guess. If you imagine 6 billion chingchongs, jeets, muds and other people from honor scamming izzat cultures would not press the red button, then as I say, you just don't understand how humans work.Only a tiny minority of oversocialized white twatter males would press the blue button. Would probably be around 2-3% of the global population giving a blue press.
>>533958983>stereotyped thinkingI am phrasing the sentence in a way very few people would, therefor what I did was the opposite of stereotypical.
>>533960026But wouldn't that give a selfless reason for pushing red? From a true standpoint of intellectual humility, if it is uncertain that either outcome is guaranteed, then there will always need to be people willing to stay behind to rebuild society.
>>533958514problem with red is that there will be a non insignificant amount of people voting blue for whatever reason(by accident kids, women etc) at which point it behooves everyone to vote blue to save them
>>533960056>>533960068White people have higher virtues than the non whites
>>533959784>Who the fuck would pick blue?people who are so stuck in their "good (group) vs bad (individuals)" mindset that rewording a question in a way that appeals to this mindset immediately railroads them into committing suicide.they basically aren't sapient but just reacting to emotional triggers
I suppose pressing blue is essentially gambling on a majority of people being retarded, which is a good bet and supported by the data in the poll results.
You guys don't understand normie psychology. It's not altruism, it's as simple as not wanting friends/family to die because you picked red. John Q. Normie isn't thinking about the human race, he's thinking shit what if my wife/son/best friend picked blue and they die because I picked red, so he picks blue.
>>533958671More importantly If everyone presses red then everyone has 0% chance of dying
>>533960079the jeet is NEVER pressing blue because it's automatic izzat loss
>>533958850If you believed tha you wouldn't insert suicide into a scenario where it isn't necessary.
>>533958514Kys slopper
>>533960068Idk maybe I have too much faith in humanity but I feel like that has to be a troll. No one's that retarded and that confident about it, it's too on the nose.
>>533960114You could have just said "commies">muh for the good of the collectiveFuck the collective.
>>533958959>Noooo, it's your fault I pressed the "I want to die" button instead of the "I want to live" button
>>533960079The idea that humans overwhelming vote for red only makes sense in the context if you're an egoist or some shit and that philsophy was found to be fucking bogus. Humans are generally social creatures that benefit from community and relationships. While I wouldn't call it an overwhelming majority, a good portion of people will vote blue just out of genuine desire to not want those around them that they care about to die a preventable death. So I'll recontextualize the scenarios:>If red wins, then an undetermined amount of people die a completely preventable death >If blue wins, nobody diesBlue is the easiest choice with the best result.
>>533960099blue has objectively no chance of winning in a scenario where this is not just a hypothetical question.all you'd do is to decide to die alongside those who refuse to properly read the question.
>>533960173not a good argument, because the same is true for blue, even at 51%. the calculus for red is>if red wins I win>if blue wins I win
The red option is the selfish option that expresses an apathy to your fellow man. The red option winning is basically condemning the survivors to live in hell. Its the worse people that end up surviving. The red option is saying I want to kill all the altruistic people who risked death to prevent anyone from dying. It wipes out all the people with a heroic instinct. I would pick blue and be OK with either outcome. I either die knowing that the majority of people are roaches or live and know that the majority of people are good. I win either way.
>>533959748>to not commit suicide is a selfish actto understand that many people will unwittingly kill themselves and decide it is better not to try and tilt the odds and favor self preservation is, by definition, a selfish actbeing selfish is not wrong or bad, self preservation should not be shameful, if you feel bad for being called selfish for pressing red that's on you.if you do not understand this you are brown
>>533960258It's a great argument. Blue carries risk, red does not. There is quite literally no benefit or reason at all to pick blue over red.
>>533960241If I vote red, and red wins, I don't die.If I vote red, and red doesn't win, I don't die.If I vote red, I always live, so I vote red.
>>533960241But as I said, if most people thought like that, that detriment to themselves is worth it if it betters the life of others... then the world would be a very different place. It would be an utopia in comparison to what it actually is.You take your oversocialized pathological altruistic world-view and then you ascribe that to everyone else. But this is obviously not true. I'm sure you give away everything you own so that starving niggers in Africa can eat instead of dying. But most people simply don't function like that.
>>533960228It's not even good for the collective.It's only good for terminal retards.Any rational person should read the description, press red and think "what a stupid question".
>>533960264This, red presses think they will 'win' but they will be screwed if they win. I would rather die an instant painless death.
>>533958514Just add another stipulation. When Blue wins and it will, blue get to pass judgement on the Reds.
>>533959048Blue is the suicide for no reason button.>>533960107If someone asked you to play russian roulette with them, would you say yes? Would you say yes if they started screaming that you killed them if you refused?
>>533958514new monty hall problem just dropped?
i wonder if it changes if instead of 50% of people having to press the button 80% would have to press it
>>533960264no. that would only be the case if pressing red would mean 10% of the population are guaranteed to die no matter what they voted or something.in the scenario that is presented, 100% of the blue voters would be people who think they are saving someone else. no one would even be at any risk at all if they used a moment to think about it rather than instantly charging into their savior-complex
>>533960352>if two people die I want to die too
>>533960354>blue get to pass judgement on the Reds.This is a recurring theme with virtue signaling blue pressers. In every thread all the blue press people arrive at this fantasy. It really says something integral about the blue presser psyche.
>>533960352what if your child pressed red? they would become an orphan with no one to care for them
>>533960319Okay pretend you're not a friendless neet for a second, what if you vote red and your wife dies. Most people have people they care about enough to not want to risk them dying by picking red.
>>533960241If the threshold for blue being successful was 5-10%, maybe you'd be right. In the real world there's no chance more than 50% of people would pick blue if their lives actually depended on it.
>>533960107You’re jewish, you are not even human, stfu faggot
>>533960241No it makes sense in the context of people being rational creatures with a vested interest in self preservation. This question isnan incredibly dumbed down prisoner's dilemma as there are no downsides to pressing red, nor benefits to pressing blue. It follows then logically that everyone should press red. It is incredibly egotistical precisely to press blue and expect others to risk their lives to save you from a situation you yourself willingly and knowlingly jumped in.
>>533960068Wait lol now I see what you meant, I must have too much faith in humanity because you must be joking as wellThere's just no way holy shit lol
>>533960399>Okay pretend you're not a friendless neet for a secondBut I did have breakfast this morning
>>533960399I asked my wife what button she'd press yesterday, she said she'd press the red button and she'd be incredibly disappointed in me if I killed myself by pressing the blue.
I'm a republican. Which one do I press to make things worse?
>>533958514Did you run out of gold and silver balls, asshole?
It doesn't matter going from this vote, I pressed red and nobody died when I did it, plus I'm exempt from dying if the numbers somehow swing.So therefore it doesn't matter.
>>533960361You clearly cannot refuse, how not even capable of entertaining a hypothetical scenario? Bringing up all sorts of irrelevant shit to cope with. You're a bad person, maybe you didn't know til now but the quiz answered it for you.
>>533960284Anon, not committing suicide is a non-self-destructive act. People don't commit suicide all the time. It's the normal state of affairs. Similarly, people do stupid, self-destructive things all the time. If you so chose, you could, at personal cost and risk, try to prevent them from doing those things. But if you tried to do that for everyone, it would be self-destructive. Not being self-destructive is not the same thing as being selfish, whatever moral weight you attach to those labels. A rock is not selfish, but it is also not self-destructive.
>>533958514this board/world really has gone to shitthe right answer is BLUE simply because every single jeet nigger thirdie macaco would pick redthe same red pickers would always steal in split or steal, and if ur not a midwit retard u'd know how split and steal societies end upt. 140iq
>>533960447>I'm a republican.Don't press anything. Trust the plan. Blue will save you in two more weeks.
>>533959853>so therefore we all need to risk our lives and take the wrong and retarded option to save wrong retards. Why would I do that?not even remotely what I'm saying, just pointing out the obvious >selfish low iq third worlders will press red>retards, midwits and holier than thou fags will press blueif your reason to press red is purely based of the obvious risk aversion you are probably smart enough to comprehend that everyone that pressed blue will die and the true moral dilemma is now revealeddo you continue to press the only correct choice, red or do you press blue hoping to tilt the odds enough to save the idiotsin this case, pressing red is inherently selfish and that's not me saying you should feel bad and press blue, it's just the obvious objective fact
>>533960354just like you got to pass judgement onto those who didn't partake in the clottery? kekit was basically the exact same scenario back then
>>533958514It's funny that red pushers (evil selfish backstabbing sociopathic freaks) barely mention the hypothetical deaths of blue pushers outside of arguments attempting to convince them to push red instead while blue pushers (enlightened righteous upstanding decent folx) post spiteful revenge fantasies about torturing and murdering red pushers in every thread.
>>533960258Consider it in a way where there is knowledge in advance of the button pressing event, in such a scenario everyone with any sense including every government and every media outlet would be blasting adds to promote everyone pressing red. It's literally the safe choice for the group and the individual
>>533960503>the right answer is suicide bro>t. 420 IQ
>>533958514
>>533960534I've nooticed.
>>533960395I'm just trying not to kill people and not be pigeonholed thanks.
>>533959161The only way to insert death into the scenario is by pressing blue.>>533959194The chances are the same but in the second one you die, first one you don't.>>533959197Go stand in front of a train for izzat, shitjeet.
>>533960408>wants to preserve human life>gets accused of beng jewThese are bots yeh? Like the jab guy. Or glowies? Just pure luminance.
>>533960399My gf is the stupid enough to click blue.God I hope not anyway, she's lefty but not ridiculously so, she said she didn't like her drawing the other day because "it looked like a tranny.My parents would choose red. I'm guessing my grandma MIGHT choose blue, but again if you do that it's your own fault. I'd feel bad but I'm not dying giving myself the chance of dying just because she's retarded.
>>533960445it's always funny though when women give a logically correct answer rather than the moralfag one.fucks people up because they didn't even think that is possible. they supported the retarded moralfag answer because they thought it would win them women's approval, and then some woman asks them if they are stupid and they stand there without pants, kek
>>533960384>Charging into their savior complexWe call these people heroes. They are the people that step up when bad shit happens. They are the people who do the right thing in spite of consequence. They are the best of humanity. You think pressing red is correct because you ran some game theory and determined that if everyone pressed red that it would end with the same result as the majority pressing blue, but the problem is everyone won't pick red and the people who picked blue were the best people. They risked death because they believed in the goodness of humanity and wanted to make sure no one died. You would usher in hell and would deserve it for assuming majority of people are selfish roaches like you.
>>533960542>sea monkeyfor you it is
>>533960258if bunch of people die, probably many of which I know, I will also lose. I am not basement NEET so death of other people impacts me as well. To say nothing that I would remain in world filled with red tards. This is not moral question, but a practical one. People who would press red are dumb and shortsighted brownoids who can't understand anything past their own personal survival. It is basically just an IQ test. If you voted red you've failed it.
>>533960534>posting about the meta-motivations of the thought experimenthey cool it with the inside baseball bud.
>>533960540It's eugenic to spread disinfo campaigns for blue because the only possible upside is it makes a minority of retards kill themselves. If the majority are retarded no one dies so there's a failsafe.
>>533960361Every time, you just try to take away the agency of the red button pressers, who are pressing the "people will die" button.Just admit it's selfish self-preservation, don't try to make an ethical argument.
>>533960569My gf isn't stupid enough to push blue*** phone fagging, I swear touch keyboards have gotten worse recently
>>533960580You can always trust women to make the selfish choice when the chips are down. My wife isn't special, 100% of women would press the red button. The only difference in character is whether they'd say this in public or not. I asked my wife about that too and she said>no of course I'd say I'd push the blue button in public
the true solution is to end the death games entirely, anyone who continues participating in these are responsible for any future deaths when they could have just not participated
>>533960395they are feckless cowards, which is why they side with the perceived "group", because they believe it will let them wield that group's power later on.
>>533960540You are a retard. You can never convince 100%, but you can convince the majority. So you should always advertise for pressing blue to avoid any deaths.
Remember: If it was a public vote nearly nobody would press red
>>533960581and then everyone clapped
>>533960473Ppp?
>>533960665Yes, in that scenario things would be very different.
>>533959455>all these jews crying that blue introduces unneccessary risk, but not one of them has actuslly articulated what the risk is. >vote red, only red voters live>vote blue, everyone involved lives.It's super fucking simple, all these pseuds screeching about potentials that aren't included in the hypothetical are being autistically retarded for zero fucking reason.
>>533960652This, if the idea is that we can decide beforehand, then as a society, since you can never convince 100% of people to vote one way or the other, blue saves everyone, red kills people, it's tha tsimple.
>>533960399I would not marry a woman stupid enough to press blue.
>>533960352>Based blue picker
>>533960614red button just enables the "suicide button for retards"
>>533960586>>533960589I'm white retards. You slavshits can't into basic logic. Red guarantees your survival. >You vote red and red wins, you win>You vote red and blue wins, you winYou have no information about other people's vote. The people who love you all could vote red, and now you caused them suffering by killing yourself for no reason.
>>533960534>barely mention the hypothetical deaths of blue pushersbecause no one is at risk as long as they pick the correct answer, which is red.I am not going to commit suicide just because someone else decided they want to die.since no one is forced to pick blue, I am not inflicting death upon anyone, so why would I even consider that.it is blue pickers who are choosing their own death, not me.
>>533960688>>all these jews crying that blue introduces unneccessary risk, but not one of them has actuslly articulated what the risk is.Well the risk is immense that you die, because izzat jeets and scamming chingchongs for sure aren't going to press any blue button and they are the majority on this planet.
>>533959355>>533959362>>533960614Not committing mass suicide is no a moral failing.
>>533960688>Vote red: red wins, you win. Blue wins, you win>Vote blue: blue wins, you win. Red wins, you dieOnly a retard would vote blue
>>533960711I can't tell anymore if they're trolling. Are blues really this common? Do people unironically think this isn't the most retarded as well as morally incorrect choice?
>itt: browns farming izzat
>>533960791They are not committing suicide, they are dying because of red button pressers.
>>533960732the issue here is that you lack mental faculties to abstract beyond "red guarantees your survival". As I said, it is an IQ test.
>>533960614>Every time, you just try to take away the agency of the red button pressers, who are pressing the "people will die" button.This is an amazing sentence.
>>533960605But it is in everyone's interest for their own group to survive 100% even if others lose population to the blue plague, thus even if you promote blue for eugenics reasons you still have to promote red at the same time to people you want to survive, the only exception would be people who actually want the population to be eradicated but that's not an option because of the 50 percent threshold
>>533960244>blue has no chance of winning goy>blue is literally winning the voteYou're retarded, autistic, coping, and jewish.
>>533960802Oversocialization.
>>533960815That's been the key to their argument every time. They try to compare it to "drinking water vs drinkig poison".A more accurate example is if a referendum existed where the object was "We will murder anyone who votes no on this referendum", and you're if you vote no you're killing people. It's just plain absurd.
>>533960813You're a redditor coping. My home country has triple digit IQ and yours doesn't.
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>>533960819Ah, yes, the eugenics of only having selfish sociopaths survive
>>533960839ok. blue won and I voted red. now what? I'm still alive.
>>533960581>We call these people heroes.Discretion is the better part of valor.>They are the people who do the right thing in spite of consequence. What do you think makes actions right or wrong aside from consequences? Sharing pearls of wisdom is nice, but casting pearls before swine is foolish because of the bad consequences that result.>They are the best of humanity.What about the people who act intelligently and anticipate problems so there isn't "bad shit" in the first place?
>>533960882Damn, that was quick>>533960871
>>533960810The red botton would kill them just because the pressed blue in the first place
Blue is the morally correct choice. A society that chooses blue is better than one that doesn't.This is supposedly a worldwide scenario though, and so, countries like China or India (not to mention all of Africa) have much more influence than the US or Europe. Again, morally, blue is correct. In practice though, blue is suicidal because there's no way the majority of the planet chooses blue.
>>533960802Were you in a coma during the covid bullshit?
>>533960756>the risk is that you dieThere is no risk of death, because blue will win the vote, like it already is. >vote red, if more people vote blue you die>vote blue, everyobe livesIt couldn't be any more simple, and you're a jewish faggot pulling completely irrelevant hypotheticals out of your ass.
>>533960882Yes, as soon as you frame the question in a way that lets people actually imagine being in the scenario for real... instead of just mindlessly pressing a virtue signaling button without any reflection... then you'll understand that the vast majority of people would press the red button and that the blue button is basically just a suicide button.
>>533960652Majority of the world? If you think that the king of siam would risk losing loyal true blood thai people to make sure every karen giraffe survives you're retarded. He will say make sure we survive first, and have the others pressing blue as an insurance policy
>>533960882>480 people chose to jump into the woodchipper
>>533958514It's a flawed prisoners dilemmaIn school they have you do it where if only 5 or less student vote red those individuals get 5 extra credit. If more than 5 vote red nobody gets extra credit. If nobody votes red everyone gets 1 pt of extra creditExposes the jerks in ur class. But the one kid who ruined it for our class became a pro poker player so he clearly knew when to throw down even if he missed that time
to repeat, even if you red, 30-49% of humanity dying, including the most virtues ones, will in fact impact your life. blue winning means actual no impact on your life.
>>533960839>>blue is literally winning the voteSure, now do it for real and let's see which colour wins.
>>533960942>There is no risk of death, because blue will win the voteThere is almost a 0% chance of that.>>533960882
>>533959868>with meA fucking leaf
>>533960908Now we unfortunately get to hear a bunch of retards preach about how great they think they are for almost killing themselvesBut let's be real, the amount who would actually press blue would be way less than 50 if this wasn't just an exercise.
>>533960665Anybody who pressed red would be prosecuted.
>>533958728I, a commie, pressed the red button. What now?
>>533960882>14% Jump into the woodchipper
>>533960965It's a prisoner's dilemma where instead of having the option to betray the other prisoner to get a better deal you get to confess you did the crime and are guaranteed to go to prison unless the other prisoner also confesses in which case they have contradicting evidence. Not confessing lets you free every time. If it were presented like that I doubt many people would confess
>>533960941Idk, that's a lot more complex although I can see your point. I figured this simple logical question would be easier for them to understand.
>>533960968>if the bucket crabs win it will impact your lifeYes it will make it significantly better
>>533960946which is the actual lesson from this imo.if you engage in political debates with other people, what you need to do is word your point in such a way that they can properly comprehend the consequences of going into the other direction.plenty of people will not vote based on the actual consequences that will follow, but based on the emotional wording of the question.
>>533961024>believe is the good guy >wants to persecute other people Litteral woke leftist mentality
>>533961024And they would win in court as well because it's literally impossible to sentence someone for refusing to risk their own life for others.
>>533960965>It's a flawed prisoners dilemmait's not a flawed prisoner dilemma at all.people just try to force it into that framework because that's what they are used to. the actual choice is a completely different one where red exists the game and blue puts themselves at an unnecessary risk.but it is intentionally worded in a way that makes people associate it with the prisoner's dilemma to bait them into picking the suicide option.
>>533959621Faggots virtue-signalling on twitter voted blue. If you ever did this in practice in like an MMO where you gambled your account, almost no one would press the russian roulette virtue-signal button.
>>533960968See now this guy I can see genuinely being this retarded. If you're a troll, everyone else take notes.
>>533958514Nobody publicizes polls worldwide, they're tools specifically meant to validate opinions inside of a limited or curated ingroup.Red would make it so red winsBlue would make it so blue wins
>>533961110It's like the other anon said, red button pushers want to convince the blue button pushers to vote in their own best interest. Bluefags want to drive their consensus and murder anyone that thinks differently.
>>533960911>Discretion is the better part of valor Allowing an English major to convince you that cowardice is actually valor. >Aside from consequence I am not a utilitarian. I believe in virtue ethics. People ought to adopt behaviors that promote goodness rather than attempt to do societal calculus fraught with error to determine their course of action. >What about the people who act intelligently They aren't acting intelligently they are acting selfishly. They know for a fact they're going to be casualties in the hundreds of millions. If they are really unlucky the vote was close and now 49% of the human population is dead. The intelligent choice is to pick blue because no dies by simple majority where the red choice everyone has to pick red for no one to die. The best result is easier to achieve by picking blue.
>>533958514>The amount of people, even here on 4chan, who aggressively argue for blue because their stereotyped thinking will not even allow them to fully read the question and comprehend the choice being offered, is quite impressive.
>>533961110>heh I would try to kill others for my own survival but you can't persecute me for doing that when chips were down because you voted to save us all! again, IQ test, red tards are just fucking dumb>>533961133you explicitly pressed "kill others" button. Actions have consequences.
>>533959702Using a memeflag is the same as avatarfagging.
>>533961226>The intelligent choice is to pick blue because no diesJust pick red, retard.
>>533961182>Faggots virtue-signalling on twitter voted blue.I thought there was a mass woke exodus to JewSky or whatever because Elon did a hecking Nazi salute and free speech makes troons kill themselves or something?
I don't have twitter
>>533961289>pick red Europe has truly fallen to the roaches.
I think blue makes sense for a family, red if you're alone and don't give a shit about anyone
>>533961110I would press red.>>533961133>the lawLol. Lmao even.
>>533961217kek, pretty much>you guys should vote red, it carries no risk for you. it would be stupid to vote blue>fuck you. not only will I vote blue, but we will flay all your red-pusher alive after blue has won, because we are the good guys
>>533961226don't care still picking red and not dying. enjoy being the only retard who picks blue. I'm sure all the niggers and chinkjeets will honor your grave.
>>533961336Everyone I care about is smart enough to press the red button.
>>53395851490% of women would pick blueassuming a 50/50 sample, that means that about 75% of men would wipe out 90% of women with the push of a button.
>>533961327Blue is the suicidal empathy button, the real problem of Europe.
>>533961336>vote blue>entire family in shambles because you were the only retard dumb enough to kill himselfJUST
>>533961370>Honor my grave You'll truly be amongst your kind. Enjoy living in the hell you have created red picker.
>>533961276Again , it's blue dudes that want to kill themself
>>533961396The very moment people realize their lives are on the line, they'll pick the button that has zero chance of killing them.
>>533960882Someone get to work on a giant woodchipper.we can get large amounts of leftists to jump into it just to prove their virtue.
>>533961226>Allowing an English major to convince you that cowardice is actually valor.Labeling things doesn't make them so.>I believe in virtue ethics. >People ought to adopt behaviors that promote goodnessSo... promoting good consequences. Utilitarianism is just a way to score the desirability of ethical scenarios. It says nothing about what goals are to be used to score things. Suicidal actions are a vice, not a virtue, because they tend to produce bad consequences.>>533961226>They aren't acting intelligently they are acting selfishly.I'm talking about, say, the people who build and maintain levees so that there isn't a disastrous flood when the river gets high. Eliminating problems before they happen removes the impetus for your brand of "heroics", but it's the preferable option.
>>533961427Survival of the fittest faggot lol
>>533958514Pick red logic: you livePick blue logic: blah blah blah this why morally…It’s not my responsibility to save people with no sense of self preservation. Altruism is only a good thing when the person/animal you’re helping can’t help themselves. In this scenario literally every single person can help themselves.
>>533961276The hypothetical is set up to allow manipulative people to virtue signal. If the situation was actually testing with a group and administered electric shocks we would actually see if the virtue signalers are lying or not.
>>533961434>honor it is their fault for standing in the path of my bullets! to repeat, this is an IQ test. Red tards = stupid = arguing semantics like this.
>>533960506>That’s not remotely what I’m saying, but actually it is exactly what I’m saying
>>533958514Another anon nade the good point that non-pressers kill everyone.>20% vote red>20% vote blue>60% abstain>80% of humanity disappears
>>533961276>Actions have consequences.Are you saying we should kill all the red button pushers when blue wins?
>>533961427>Expected value of red: 1.0>Expected value of blue: .75>If the majority of people on this earth dont choose the negative expected value suicide button the world is le ebil and I want to dieLiteral mental illness
>>533961443>uhh no one would ever risk their own life to save someone that would be dumbBe honest, how long ago did you move to Spain and where from?
>>533961498>hypotheticalthen lets choose practical example. Do you think that people abusing food banks in Canada shouldn't be flayed alive? By your red thinking they are just maximizing their survival which is all that matters.
>>533960581Did you know psychopaths are more likely than normal people to rescue others?
>>533961410>Blue suicidal empathy No red is the problem with Europe. Red is the "not my problem" button. The "I won't step up, because its not in my self interest" button meanwhile your daughter gets assaulted by foreign men, your taxes get stolen by those same men and your surrounding world just gets worse and more crime ridden. Blue accepts the risk of stepping up. It says I may die for the best possible outcome, but I am willing to take that risk for what's best for my country. Its a love of country that you euro fags forgot after world war II. You'd rather let everything rot than grow the balls to step up and take back your countries.
>>533960614Putting yourself in mortal danger for no reason forcing others to risk their lives to save yours is selfish.
>>533960652>You can never convince 100%, but you can convince the majoritycan you actually?I doubt it
>>533961572>best possible outcome is retards with zero logic and survival instincts get savedNo?
>>533961427
>>533961396>90% of women would pick blue90% of women would tell you that they picked blue, but then pick red anyway.women are way more rational than men when it comes to this. they don't sacrifice themselves for retarded ideologies
>>533958514We're still doing this? Lmao. Red if you're not a retard. Simple as.
>>533961513nigger we should be doing eugenics regardless. Fact that we have objective way to spot and remove low iq and virtue retards and will to do it just makes it better.
>>533960581>We call these people heroes. They are the people that step up when bad shit happenswho are they saving other than other people with hero complexes?it's a conga line of heroes running into a burning building and demanding you run in after them to save them
>>533961572>bluefags have a savior complex like libshits do with niggersIf you cant trust your fellow man to pick red you've always been the low trust retard
>>533961572Lmao bluefags voted those migrants in because of empathy or some shit even though it was akin to suicide
>>533960026The black death killed 30% of the population of the british isles in the initial wave. Guess what happened? Total societal and economic collapse? The king had to issue a law capping labourer wages because the job market inverted from a buyer's market to a seller's market, and the wages of labourers doubled or even tripled. You are a slave goy advocating for your master.
>>533961565I just had to look up who publishes that type of nonsense>picrel
>>533959489
>>533961715>nothing happensfactually incorrect and misleading
>>533960665>>533961024lol exactly >>533960534>you wouldn't DARE admitting to pressing red because us selfless heroic high trust empathetic blues would fucking kill you!
>>533961666kek, pretty much>"I am voting blue to save those who voted blue!">this is everyone who voted blue though>there was no one to be saved>the burning building was empty, and visibly empty too
>>533961715except there is certain number of people who would pick blue regardless(kids, women, by accident etc) so this is just red tards lying to themselves. Idk who low iq selfish tards can't just be honest with themselves?
>>533961715Kek. Beautifully done. Imagine it took 5 days for the votes to be tallied. Now imagine the mental state of the red voter vs. the blue voter during that time. The choice is obvious.
>>533958514anyone who picks blue is suicidalIf you pick blue and die that's on you.
>>533961775"everyone" means everyone see >>533959904
>>533961622Did you know 2/3 of those who committed suicide at Jonestown were women? 2/3 of cult members are women generally.
>>533961715Your grandma fainted as she was teleported to the room of choices, and hit her head on the blue button, rip grandma
>>533961470>Labeling things doesn't make them so Shakespeare came up with that quote. He's just a famous writer. Why should I accept his framing of valor when he has none?>Promoting good consequences No, sometimes they promote bad consequences but we live with that. You utilitarians wouldn't have a bill of rights. If it was up to you we would be government cattle. Its virtue ethics that demands such rights in spite of the abuses that arise from them. Virtue and goodness comes from peoples strength of character not their ability to do game theory on the fly. >Remove problems They are valuable, but they are not the best of humanity. The people with good character remind us all why humanity is worth fighting for. They reflect what we want to be and what we want out of our fellow man. The removal of these people is a world I don't want to live in.
>>533959489Interesting how you insert arguments rational red pushers don't make into this meme. Things like "fools care about others", "why aren't you considering that your own life is all that matters", "screw morals" etc.It comes off as forced and not funny, funny things are based in reality.
>>533961523Eat shit, memeflag. Anyone that pushes blue is a suicidal retard.
>>533961837You need a hypothetical to defend your hypothetical.
>>533961795>Imagine it took 5 days for the votes to be tallied.Lmao
>>533961775Hot take. Fuck those people, lmao.
>>533961771>I've voted to kill everyone >wtf why are they upset about it!!again, this is IQ test and red voters have failed it, which is obvious in their argumentation.
>>533961715saved kek
>>533961837It' s incredible that blue bottoners have to invent this contrived scenarios while redchads just say " don't be stupid"
>>533961572>Blue accepts the risk of stepping up. It says I may die for the best possible outcome, but I am willing to take that risk for what's best for my country.And that's why our countries are filled with traitors and subhumans. Thanks, bluetards!
>>533961775Low trust nigger cant fathom that high trust society rely on you to trust people to make the right choice for themselves
>>533961763it's factually correct for them because THEY didn't enter the...ULTIMATE!DEATH!GAMBLE!!!!!!!*insert price is right theme*
>>533961832Now ask women if they would die for their men and ask men if they would die for their women. The answer will only surprise retards.
>>533961898I think you might be the dumbest nigger in this entire thread. Congratulations, that's quite the feat.
>>533961898sorry I'm not going to join your suicide pact ahaha I'm just not going to do it
>>533958514>high chance to fuck everything up with their stupidity will disappear.Maybe some of the blue pressers are naively risking their lives and hoping it might save their friends, family (including children?) and colleagues from death? There's a chance it could work.
100% survival chance vs. <100% survival chanceGee what a fucking conundrum. Really gets the gears turning.
>>533958514Didn't read.Presses blueU Mad?Presses blue again smugly
>>533961909because you don't get to ignore your due diligence by just saying that your victims "should've been smarter". Shit happens and you need to factor it in.
>>533961614>>533961616>>533961675>>533961700>>533961565>>533961520>>533961481>>533961666>Roach cope
>>533961763Nothing happens to YOU. But I now subhumans don't understand individuality or thinking for themselves, it's ok.
>>5339618322/3 of a suicidal cult being women does not imply 2/3 of women generally being disposed towards suicidal cults, or that 2/3 of women generally would pick the blue.
>>533961715Kek, bluetards seething.
>>533961775where are those people? the only blue pressers I see are self-proclaimed heroes saving those poor blue-pressers who didn't know what they were doing.but those are nowhere to be seen.
>>533962023Press blue and do us all a favour.
>>533960484>>533960614Sorry, I'm just not pressing the suicide button. If yo do, remember that people who commit suicide go to hell forever.
>>533962019>due diligence Lmao. It’s a hypothetical. Press red and live dumbass.
>>533962019Maybe everyone around you is smart and you're creating victims by being the only retard
>>533962019nobody forced you to press blueyou pressed blue to save people who pressed blue to save people who pressed blue to save people who pressed blue to...
Blue wonFact. Deal with it. Or cry more like lovers.
>>533958514Red is the button of reptiles, psychopaths and singularly self-interested persons.And I welcome them to their world of cruelty, selfishness and brute survival when everyone with the traits of cooperation and empathy are removed forever."Red immediately takes you out of the game."Right, in other words all that truly matters to you is your own survival, versus the survival of everyone."If everyone pressed Red, everyone would survive."Right. Because you cannot comprehend someone having empathy and a desire to see everyone survive at the risk of their own life. Because you're a psychopath.I press Blue, every time.
>>533961898If they're dead they can't be mad about it.
>>533962010Damn you must be one of those mathematicians, know your numbers and shit
>>533961110>I want to kill people>omg why do you want to prosecute me for attempign to kill people? fucking woke lefty
Sorry chuds, but blue won! Humanity has prevailed once again!
>>533961410Hear hear. White people have gtten this far by having low-trust "fuck you got mine" societies!!!!
>>533961775No woman would ever pick blue. But yeah, some tards and kids would probably do it. Sad.
>>533962070at home or work doing shit. Not everyone is NEET tard thinking that they are being smart for failing a basic prisoner's dilemma. >>533962076>>533962081>>533962089holy seethe
>>533962113If red won, redchads won.If blue won, redchads won.
>>533961572it's literally not your problem if a low IQ retard presses the 'suicide button' instead of the 'nothing happens button'.there is no reason to ever press the blue button, the only button that introduces death.
>>533962117>I press Blue, every time.OK. Sayonara!
>>533962113>Deal with it.Are you too stupid to understand that red wins every time?
>>533961922>Why our countries are filled with traitors and subhumans Yeah cause the red button pressers are in charge. Its in their self interest to press the red button. They instantly don't have to worry about the consequences of importing Syrians into your countries when they are bribed in the millions to do so. They can ignore the problem because they pressed the red button. They didn't have to take any risk. The money will protect them. The Syrians pressed the red button too. They could have stayed in their country and tried to improve it, but they could just press the red button and move to your country and collect welfare from your tax dollars. In fact you should be happy they are there because they picked the button that was in their self interest.
>>533962146>there is an afterlife>all the blue pushers wonder why it's a total sausage festwomen are way more rational when it comes to stuff like this. they do not sacrifice themselves in the hope that someone else might acknowledge it and reward them, kek
>Mom, dad, I pressed blue to save you!!>Now you have to press blue to save me or you’ll lose your child forever!!This is how you get the people you love killed btw. If the three of you press red nothing happens. See how that works, oh grand retards?
>>533961715>shitty meme number 1056 where the agency is removed from the red button pressers for having what happens if they press the button, happening.The fact that every analogy they make involves removing red's agency tells you everything.
>>533962137Red wins either way? The fuck are you on?
>>533962146>No woman would ever pick blueNot a single woman voted blue guys. This guy knows his shit. Surely no woman pressed blue on twitter where blue is for everyone to survive. Yeah. Not a single woman would do that. This guy is smart he knows.So blue won because only men pressed.
>>533962157there is no prisoner's dilemma, retard.
>>533962117>"If everyone pressed Red, everyone would survive.">Right. Because you cannot comprehend someone having empathy and a desire to see everyone survive at the risk of their own life. Because you're a psychopath.>I press Blue, every time.So then you're one of those blue pressers who need to be saved by other blue pressers. And then you're trying to hold me hostage to your bad choice. If you didn't press blue in the first place, no one would have to save you by pressing blue.
>>533962157>redfags be seething over bluechads!
>>533962142Guess you've never read about Europe's history.
>>533958514>>533958514Don't care, didn't read the OPI will not participate in your magical Russian Roulette, even if you somehow think babies and retarded people might accidentally press blue (which makes no sense, because no voting system ever implemented would allow babies to vote, just because a law passed which stipulates that "everyone gets a private vote" or for that matter that retarded people must not be given any help, when voting)You blue pressers can keep killing yourself with these silly games. I am going to laugh my ass off, if the vote is time-delayed for each continent and all of the leftist blue pressers in Europa and North America will suddenly be faced with the frightening possibility of the third world voting red, since China and India alone can completely dominate the poll.>PS: don't forget, you need 50% of EVERYONE in the world to vote blue, if you want to survive, not 50% of everyone who voted in the poll, so if this was real and done via twitter, you would all be dead
>>533962215Who gives a shit what pledditors press on twatter. I'm talking about what would happen in the real world if this actually happened.
>>533962146Kids pick what their parents tell them to pick.
>>533962191Blue won look at the twitter poll.Red lost this time.Truth
>>533962123>if you press this blue button there's a significant chance it will kill you>presses blue button>THIS IS EVERYONE ELSE'S FAULT!
>>533960534>folxmade me go from sensible chuckle to orbital sides.
>>533961864my flag has nothing to do with the words I post, and glowies use western flags as well as immigrants. By using your flag you only aid them blending in and cucked yourself of anonymity >>533961960>for themYes, exactly..>>533962026>don't understand individuality or thinking for themselvesthis in itself is a giant meme you and many others bring up vax, ukraine, covid, as an appeal to the masses (most here dont support them) and are trying to use that to support a completely irrelevant point. >>533962074yes we know you press the murder button instead
>Bluefags are low trust niggers that cant trust their fellow man to not put a loaded gun to their head
>>533962123>>533960923
>>533958514The best rephrase I've heard is.>If less than half the people hold a gun to their head the guns will go off.
>>533962222>And then you're trying to hold me hostage to your bad choice.Pretty much.These are the exact people who fuck everything up - retards who want to play hero, put their own lives at risk for zero gain, and then demand that everyone else sacrifice their own lives too to save them. Often with brutal revenge fanttasies against everyone who doesn't.Meanwhile, red pushers just want blue pusher to stop being retarded and pick the objectively correct choice.
>>533962284Fucking LMAO
>>533962253OK. But your opinions are worthless and only you think they aren't. Go prove it. Make a real life poll with same questions and livestream it. Walk in your city and ask. You won't. Because you know you are wrong as you often are in life, except here.
>>533962194You're so fucking stupid and disingenuous I'd love to fucking kill you with a button.
>>533962284Why is blue holding the gun? It is the people who vote red that are doing the killing.
>>533959877"50% of people" not 50% of votes. According to context: 50% of "everyone in the world".
>>533962284Fucking lol
>>533962260>>533962260>Blue won look at the twitter poll.>Red lost this time.Retard confirmed.
>>533962253So if even one hot young girl picked blue your argument is bad? Got it.
Can’t help but notice most blue pressers in this thread have European flags. Interesting to see the correlation between that and the demographic state of their countries. I now see why the Muslim population went from 500,000 to 50,000,000 in 20 years.
>>533962309Polls are fake and gay. Do a real life experiment like the one I suggested:>>533959106At least 95% of the population would press the red button. All jeets would do it, most chingchongs and niggers. All women.Only a tiny minority of oversocialized white soibugmen would press blue.
So many people can't read!So many people would just shoot themselves, when given a gun, because they aren't sure which end the bullet comes out of!So many people would just for whatever random reason make the worst mistake of their life, when given any agency!WE. NEED. TO. SAVE. THESE. PEOPLE ... for some reason BY PLAYING RUSSIAN ROULETTE WITH THEM
>>533962314Cope roach you know I am right. You're no different from the invaders and the traitors that let them in. You just didn't get the chance to push the red button so your seething.
>>533962373You are coping
>>533962333No. It doesn't cost money to vote red, everyone can do it - rich, poor, white, nigger, men, women - literally everyone.
>>533962314>admits voting red will cause deathhey finally!
>>533962373yeah, it's the same underlying hero-complex shit that causes the problem, where people sacrifice themselves to save some fictional victims that do not even exist in the first place, and then demand that everyone else must join in on their suicide pact because it's the morally correct choice
>>533962322The red button does literally nothing.Only the blue button introduces the possibility of death.You failed at reading comprehension. low IQ brown.
>>533962273Shut up, kike. Go suck your rabbi's cock.
>>533962322>its reds fault Kek take some personal responsibility for your actions
>>533962322It’s more accurate that the vote maker holds a gun to everyone’s heads, and puts it down for red voters and keeps it held to the head of blue voters until voting is finished.
>>533962407See>>533962418
>>533962373>Interesting to see the correlation between that and the demographic state of their countries.Suicidal empathy button.
>>533962423>>533962434>>533962445gotta be bots or glowies lmao thats record timing>take some personal responsibility >WHAT DO YOU MEAN VOTING RED CAUSES PEOPLE TO DIE I JUST DID WHATS BEST FOR ME?!?!lol wtf
>>533962375it is kinda funny to watch all these men go>we need to press blue to save the women!when the women would absolutely press red (even if they all claim to press blue in public)
>>533962512>>533962512>>533962512
>>533962461No, it's correct with blue holding a gun to their own head. They're the dumb mother fuckers who pressed blue.
>>533962417The bluepushers are the ones killing themselves.
>>533962375You lost.You can't prove you will ever win.You just talk shit.Nobody buys it though.Blue won.U mad I'm not. I didn't loser u did redboy
>>533962507you voted to kill yourself bro. it was explained to you and you chose death.now you're trying to drag others down with you like a nigger.
>>533961396>90% of women would pick blueHAHAHAHAHAHAHyou don't know any real women do you
>>533962507Blue is just making a problem out of nothing. You're retarded.
>>533962461Where did the tweet say that? always needing to add extra to justify voting to kill.>>533962544blue won, they lived, red exposed the type of people they are.
>>533960968>vote red>red wins, impact on your life>red loses, no impact on your life>vote blue>blue wins, no impact on your life>blue loses, your life ends
>>533962507Kill yourself, memeflag. You're fooling nobody with that lame trolling.
>>533962561So no woman would press it? Kek. So no horny guy would press same as hole in hope? So no based red pressing guy would also wanna save his horny youngee brother?
>>533958514>chad: bro let's pick red, then we can live>onions: no bro, we have to pick blue, if half of us pick blue then we can all live>chad: what? everyone will live if they just press red. I'm pressing red>votes come in 99% red, 1% blue>onions: NOOO YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE PRESSED BLUE, NOW I'M DEAD>chad: should have pressed red then, retard
>>533961299Pedosky is a dead site, most of them came crawling back. Everyone on twitter is a hypersocialized faggot though, left or right.
>>533962557I voted to save everyone else. If I die at least I die with honour.>>533962561Like the world being forced into this scenario isn't a problem, from there the decision is how do we best navigate. Or for the selfish, how do they save their own asses.
>>533962620insane levels of glow on the red side
>>533961396Just like women sacrifice themselves heroically for self-preserving men all the time? Oh wait.
>>533962551It's impossible for red to lose, you illiterate retard.
>The vaccine only works if most people get it.>The blue button only works if most people push it.Go and kill yourselves, faggot retards.
>>533962729This is increasingly feeling like a glowie psyop to promote sociopathic selfishness and undermine the notion of societal trust
>>533962638>So no woman would press it?Obviously some would. How is that a problem?>So no horny guy would press same as hole in hope?Simps dying is a good thing.>So no based red pressing guy would also wanna save his horny younger brother?I'd assume he'd tell his brother, but then again it's not my problem if they're idiots. Yes I'd press red.>>533962697Then press red or perish.
>>533962672Lmao another bot or glowie. These posts are insane and so pathetically written.>chad sayslike fucking hell, maybe you're just 12 but I doubt it
>>533962755That's what I think. Retards pressing blue are vaxies.
>>533962765looks more and more like it this isn't organic posting
>>533962697>I voted to save everyone else. If I die at least I die with honour.
>>533962765Like that wasn't lost already memeflaggot
>>533962863another one... I don't think glowies are this blind so I reckon we have a bot problem.
>>533962795Us glowies won, you lost bluefag. All hail the cia and satan! All hail the red button!
>>533962751it really is just the vax debate all over again, kekwith the exact same arguments on both sides, toojust one side that wants people to make the logical decision (actually the altruistic side since they waste their time on trying to prevent the other side from making a mistake, for zero gain to themselves), while the other side wants to act in concert with the perceived majority and fantasizes about torturing anyone who didn't join
>>533962936red lost tho, humanity won. Satan lost.>>533962982I like how you glowies still act like covid was actually dangerous
>>533962982Bluepushers should get a treat after choosing suicide.
>>533963040>red lost thoOnly on retard-twatter.
>>533962982except even if 100% of people took the clot shots, even if we did the impossible and gave it to all the animals too, covid would still be around because the shots literally don't work.they don't even provide a secondary immune response. all they do is cause organ damage and micro scaring on your heart tissue.
>>533963040Actually you lost tranny. We here at the CIA have made everyone evil and selfish
>>533963068>235 votes>>533963125>trolling but not trolling but trolling but not really
>>533962982It has literally nothing to do with the vax.
>>533962794OK. You press red. You lost. Blue won.
>>533962765I want you to not kill yourself. You want me to kill myself. It's very simple. You're demonically possessed.
>>533958514>Blue needs >50% to win>If you press blue you're literally committing suicide!!>Blue BRVTALLY mogs red with almost 2/3rds of the vote Psychopathic redcels stay mad, Bluegods are in charge now.
>>533963300Red wins no matter which side got majority.
>>533963048the fact that there was a black market for vaccination cards, but no black market for vaccines, should have really told people everything, kek
>>533963300red never loses, which is the whole point people have been trying to convey to you
>>533963339Nope. We all know red wanted to kill blue and hoped they will be over 50 that's why they pressed it. Because they think they are superior. U can't trick me I'm one of you. I know why you press it and it's not out of love and kindness its because there is a chance you might cause deaths and be smug about it haha retards die I told you so haha im so superior. Well. Red lost
>>533963452Red pressers who worry about that will just say they pressed blue afterwards, if blue won.
>>533962038No, retard, it implies that women are more susceptible to cultlike thinking even if it results in them killing themselves, which directly contradicts the claim that women are more rational about their own survival.>>533961969True but irrelevant.
>>533963452Red pushers are mad because nobody died we all know this and they pretend to be mad because of intellectual reasons. Nah they just hate it that blue didn't die. This is what they lost.
>>533963452I really just am not inclined to commit suicide, that's it.
>>533963251It's the same moral bullshit they pushed with the vax.
>>533960405Thinking about it, you could reduce the threshold literally as low as you can go, like you only need 2 blue votes on the planet to have everyone survive, and it's still retarded to press blue
>>533963452Reds think about themselves, Blues think about what others would think about them. Blue is the faggot choice.
>>533963510>True but irrelevant.Are you fucking retarded? I'm answering to your bullshit that women commit more suicide.
>>533963636Human nature. Red can't win.
>>533962273>Yes, exactly..So what are you confused about then?Imagine I have a button, and it does nothing. That's it. Just a button. It says "press for nothing to happen" and I do, and nothing happens.Then some faggot comes in and says "WELL ACTUALLY THINGS ARE STILL HAPPENING OUTSIDE THEREFORE THAT BUTTON IS FALSE"That's you. You're the faggot.Now go ahead and continue to miss the point, and try and prove some more how bad you are at accepting responsibility for your own actions.
>>533963757Yes, we all know you're a faggot and a troll, you can move on now.
>>533961110That also applies directly to christkikes>claim to be the good guys>massacred millions of White Europeans who refused to worship a jewish rabbi>enable, defend, and enriched jews at every turn, taking them from being a nearly extinct semitic bronze age tribe to ruling the world.
>>533963757This guy thinks life is a Marvel movie or something lol
>>533963679Male self-sacrifice is an instinct that maximised fitness for a tribe, it's only irrational now because we don't live in tribes and women aren't constantly pregnant. Being in a suicide cult is never rational.
>>533962237Do you mean before or after christkikes spent alnost 2000 years sending Europeans to kill each other over jewish fairytales? Because before christkikery European communities had to work together in high trust societies so the whole community would survive winter.Of course, you'd understand that if your skin tone wasn't the same colour as the shit I took two hours ago.
>>533960558>I'm just trying not to kill peopleBut you're totally willing to persecute them for thinking differently and valuing self preservation.
>>533962672Meanwhile, outside of your schizophrenic jewish head canon>if enough people vote blue everyone involved lives>if enough people vote red, the rest die>retards like this guy think voting blue means death when the question literally states the opposite.
>>533964264>I voted blue>I died>"How could this have happened to me?"
>>533960503>Every single retard that makes up the majority would pick red>Therefore the right answer is blue>I have a high IQ because I'm not gonna pick the option the niggers pick, because niggers r dum and I'm smart
>>533960819>thus even if you promote blue for eugenics reasons you still have to promote red at the same time to people you want to surviveYou wouldn't need to promote red because people who aren't retarded are already picking red. You only need to promote red to the retards you want to live and blue to the retards you want to die.
>>533959659pressing red does the same thing as not pressing any button.You could remove the red button from this exercise entirely and just have it be about a bunch of retards pressing the blue suicide button for no reason.
