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Red or Blue? Will the answer ever be found?

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>>533962512
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The only winning move is not to play.
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>>533972692
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCGtHMxNrXY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWkp2vpVlhE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB3K0Wk6sJU
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>>533972692
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Red button pushers have girlfriends
Blue button pushers have wives who have boyfriends, and that's okay
It just means they know their place
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>>533972692
Blue, doesn't take much thinking to figure out why
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>>533972873
Elaborate, troll
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>>533972773
No, you die in that scenario if red gets the vote.
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>>533972873
You're a tranny about to join the 41%?
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I want to press red and also get myself killled
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>>533972692
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>>533972692

>>533972981
>But I want all the strangers to survive

And this is why you die.

>>533972713
>>There is zero negative consequence until someone presses blue.
>There is zero negative consequence until someone press red.

And this is the issue.
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Why is this nonsense being forced now?
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>>533972978
No, thanks to denial, I'm immortal.
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>>533972962
If red wins, would you want to live in a world of only red pressers?
Everyone developed or moral nation would be wiped out, it would be total china/ nigger/ jew/ indian victory
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holy fuck go back to twitter
this thread is so cringe
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>>533973324
I already live in that world.
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What if you gleek on the red button and cough on the blue button?
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>>533973234
>Why is this nonsense being forced now?

Setting the stage for some sort of civilizational shake-up.
A US draft, a terrorist attack (biological is my bet, dastardly Iranians!).
Maybe another round of Covid and Jabs, perhaps Monkey Pox is back on the menu.

Never doubt that the PTB will test the waters before the fuckery begins.
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>>533973412
This. Us glownigs are checking whether there are enough naive bluepressers to force another clotjab on the plebs.
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>>533972873
>Doesn't take much thinking
What's good for the collective is not always good for the self.
I had a thought exercise about that and it just brings to light why blue is absolutely an inferior answer

>Be poll
>Have no votes
>Red or Blue
>Someone voted blue, thinking it the obvious answer
>More people start voting blue
>Everyone is singing kumbaya
>Someone else votes red
>The collective loses their mind over the one person
>More people start voting red
>Blue now has to resort to calling red evil because it will mean they die if red wins
>Blue is only obvious because it benefits the collective of both red and blue, and as such does not in any way punish red
>The contradiction to this is that Red poses a threat to anyone who voted for blue
>Collective Preservation VS Self Determination
>Voting red assures you aren't killed off
>Voting blue means you trust that enough people will side with you to ensure you survive

You unironically need to be a smooth brain to think voting blue is the correct answer.
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>>533972810
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EDW88CBo-8
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>>533973324
Do you think red would win?
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>>533973507
>You unironically need to be a smooth brain to think voting blue is the correct answer.
Yes and a lot of smoothbrains can't help but out themselves to feel like they're morally superior to others.
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>>533973492
>to force another clotjab on the plebs.

Maybe they are doing data-collection for energy shortages and rationing.
The US is as close to Autarky as it has ever been.
-But- if we go that route we hang the West out to dry. So, hardship for us but Europe survives or we get fat and happy and the Eurocucks go down hungry in the dark while the mudbloods hunt them for sport.
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>>533973507
I get the premise of collectivism vs individualism
I agree and would want to press red
But I would not want to live in the hell that exists after every collectivist is dead.

In this theoretical experiment, if red wins EVERYONE selfless is dead.
I think there are enough to push it over 51% anyway
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>>533972692
blue-button-pushers
>"Let's work together"
>Establishes partnerships to achieve more than he could alone
>Emotional core: Hope
>Tolerates risk when there is benefit to himself or others
>"I don't want them to suffer like I did."
>Is defeated when deceived into trusting a Red and inevitably betrayed
>Responds poorly to coercion, uses trust and cooperation to overthrow slavers
>Tries to cultivate fellow Blues to create a community
>Willing to risk his own life for the right cause

red-button-pushers:
>"Fuck you, I got mine"
>Pretends to be a Blue while not actually contributing anything
>Emotional core: Contempt
>Pathologically risk-averse
>"I suffered so why shouldn't they?"
>Is defeated when Blues identify him and exclude him from the fruits of their labors
>Can be coerced to contribute - an ideal slave because his paranoia and selfishness prevent him from organizing a rebellion
>Tries to poison others into becoming Reds purely out of spite; knows this will eradicate the structures he depends on to survive; can't help himself
>Thinks anything with a non-zero chance of death is a "suicide cult"
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>>533973649
>Do you think red would win?

Win? maybe.
Survive? Every Time.
That's the point.
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>>533973764
>if red wins EVERYONE selfless is dead.
You can be selfless without killing yourself.
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>>533973801
>words words words
we get it you're retarded
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Blue = save the children
Red = let them die
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>>533974090
>Blue = save the retards
>Red = let them die

FTFY
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You know for a fact that someone you love will push blue. You gonna push blue to try and save them?
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>>533973649
I don't think red would win, fairly certain about it
Majority of the world is wiser than the selfish intellectuals you see trying to argue their way around their own moral impotence
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>>533972692
I won't be participating in your gay social engineering psyop horseshit
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>>533974090
Blue = die with the children
Red = live
If your child pressed red, would you still press blue?
>>533974291
I would try and save them by pressing their red button for them if I could.
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>>533972692
Red
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>>533974311
This reply tells me you're naïve and prone to emotional manipulation.
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>>533974070
>sociopath is also illiterate
Every time.
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>>533974351
>I would try and save them by pressing their red button for them if I could.

Interesting tangent into voting rights.

>>533973801
>red-button-pushers:
>>"Fuck you, I got mine"
>>Pretends to be a Blue while not actually contributing anything
>>Emotional core: Contempt
>>Pathologically risk-averse

Nice headcanon.
No.

When I was training as a rescue diver I was taught the first rule is to stay alive, as dead bodies in drysuits save nobody.
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>>533972692
Here, retards.
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>>533972873
kek based
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>>533973764
>I think there are enough to push it over 51% anyway
yes there's always more than 51% pushing blue because normies aren't the talmudic signaling jews the vocal minority on here pretend to be. most normies will read the squid game and understand by pushing red, they're tacitly responsible for killing everyone pushing blue. so now /pol/ is kvetching endlessly about their spiritual jewish red essence being exposed
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>>533972692
Blue.
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>>533974564
not really fair that nigga can just come back
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>>533972692
I got your answer right here fag.
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>>533974462
It's funny how you have to attempt to dehumanize anybody who doesn't agree with you.
I'm not wasting time reading your poorly thought nonsense. Present a non-emotional argument for choosing blue.
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>>533972692
Blue is the obvious choice when you think about it. The people pressing red are incredibly selfish and are only shortsighted enough to think about self preservation. Who are the most likely to press red and think of self preservation above all else? Low IQ third worlders. If you pressed red and won, then the majority of good people would be gone and you’d be left with third worlders. The likes of Indians, Pakistanis, Iraqis, Afghans, Africans, and the Chinese to live with. The world would collapse into chaos and you’d likely be captured and chopped up to be part of some magic voodoo tradition. Blue is the only reasonable choice
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>>533974878
>The world would collapse into chaos and you’d likely be captured and chopped up to be part of some magic voodoo tradition.
You think blue voters are preventing the world from collapsing into chaos?
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>>533974538
Oh, so I'm expected to save retards?
Or is it more philosophical than that, like all jews and niggers are presumably going to press red, so am I willing to risk sacrificing myself to prevent the rise of jews and niggers in the world? Would I even want to live in such a world?
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>>533974878
>Who are the most likely to press red and think of self preservation above all else? Low IQ third worlders.

So, on a planetary scale red wins because shitskins and chinks are the way they are.
Enlightened Blues are the planetary minority in your own estimation, so going blue is suicide.

Still pressing blue?
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>>533972692
Oh yeah, would press the blue button btw. You hate me but I still believe that man is redeemable, I'm sorry.
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>>533975064
Red? There is bo red button. It's literally just a blue button that you can choose whether or not to press. Conditions clearly laid out.
Press a red burton if you want. It won't achieve anything. Stick a cactus up yer butt for all it matters. The only real actionable decision anyone can make is whether or not they press the blue button.
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>>533974395
The opposite
I'm autistic and selfish
I just like and appreciate selfless people
And not the moral projectionist types either
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>>533974538
this makes makes blue more unambiguously both moral and logically correct. the talmudic jews pushing red don't have the same utilitarian world view golden rule humans pushing blue do. blues aren't failing an IQ test, reds are failing a human test.
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Bluefags are chopped
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>>533975333
What red button?
Where do you see a red button in my image?
There is no red button. Do you press the blue one, or not?
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>>533975298
Choosing red doesn't mean you're a selfish person. It just means you aren't a dumbass.
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>>533974564
listening to blue arguemnts, I fully understand why jews are in charge. Well, I already knew why, but this is just another way to look at it.
>>533974878
Why do airlines instruct you to secure your own oxygen mask before helping others in the event of an emergency? There was some real thought that went into that decision.
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>>533974996
In this instance yes, because they want to save everyone and not live in a world ran by thirdies
>>533975081
I can’t guarantee how many other people would press Red. If all the good righteous people still press blue then I’m stuck with all the thirdies ruling over the planet so may as well be dead at that point. Go blue and hope for the best. If we lose, then at least I’m not stuck being ruled by thirdies that will kill me
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>>533975212
I don't hate you, I just want you to make better decisions.
You're like a teenage girl rebelling against her dad.
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>>533975456
>Where do you see a red button in my image?

Pilpul. You are intentionally warping the experiment.

Very semitic of you.
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>>533975570
I mean, do you think they are CURRENTLY preventing the world from going to chaos?
Because that's retarded.
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>>533975081
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>>533975672
No, but we still can be course corrected. But in this hypothetical if red were to win, there’s simply nothing to save society and the remaining people would just fall into war and rampant crime
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>>533975570
>I’m stuck with all the thirdies ruling over the planet so may as well be dead at that point.

This book was written about people like you.

https://archive.org/details/covington-harold-the-brigade
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>>533975652
>Warping the experiment
Are you an idiot?
Honest question. What effectively happens to the outcome if you remove the red button entirely? Pressing the red button literally does NOTHING outside of abstaining from pressing the blue button.
My image clears its up. It doesn't warp anything. DO YOU PRESS THE BLUE BUTTON?!
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If I don't steal the behavior program under the button press, someone else gonna steal the behavior program under the button press, you can't have morality unless you're a Christian Formica or a Jewish Polyergusformica. Remphan, Lucifer and Baal wins again. You can't beat capitalism, don't forget to vote away your problems shabis.
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>>533975790
If you don't think the blue voters are preventing the world from going into chaos right now, why do you think the world would go to chaos with them gone?
>We're all super special and important and you need us to save SOCIETY we are the ones who will SAVE you
faggot, go suck some Muslim dick, it might prevent him from causing chaos.
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>>533972773
Red is the equivalent of not playing. You can look at it as the Blue button may or may not kill you and everyone else who pressed it, the Red button is a placebo that does nothing.
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blue button-pushers:
>"Let's work together"
>Is not ashamed of his choice to push the blue button
>Is able to establish productive partnerships because he trusts his fellow man
>Emotional core: Hope
>Tolerates risk when there is benefit to himself or others - the ideal entrepreneur
>"I don't want them to suffer like I did."
>Is defeated when deceived into trusting a Red and inevitably betrayed
>Cannot be oppressed because he is willing to put his life in the hands of fellow resistance members
>Tries to cultivate fellow Blues to create a community of interdependence
>Willing to risk his own life for the right cause

red button-pushers:
>"Fuck you, I got mine"
>Brags about how pushing the red button makes him clever when anonymous; pretends to be a Blue in every other context
>Does the bare minimum to absorb resources he didn't earn
>Emotional core: Contempt
>Pathologically risk-averse, could never take a chance on a opportunity no matter how lucrative
>"I suffered so why shouldn't they?"
>Is defeated when Blues identify him and exclude him from the fruits of their collaborative labors
>Easy to enslave, his paranoia and selfishness prevent him from ever joining or organizing a revolt
>Tries to poison others into becoming Reds purely out of spite; knows this will eradicate the structures he depends on to survive; can't help himself
>Thinks any group engaged in a mission with a non-zero chance of death is a "suicide pact"
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I mean why would any logical person take a risk when they don't have to though, no amount of shaming tactics will work on wise skeptical people, this has already been proven during covid as others have said.
>>533975081
kek good catch
>>533975333
Jews specifically and explicitly spent millennia stripping away whites self preservation instincts, red = self preservation choice for all intents and purposes with even blues admitting this and using it as an insult, therefore jews would want you to choose blue. There's also a massive needless virtue signalling coming from the blue side which just looks gay and woke and annoying honestly. But yea if this experiment were real, Id bet my life that jews would try to get as many whites to choose blue as possible because they know 85% ish of the planet would choose red if left to do so, anonymously especially.
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>Choose Red or Blue.
Democracy is best, and hard choices. But that's the price of freedom and liberty. Our founding fathers had to lay down and do nothing to earn us our freedom, that's why they're laying down fat and happy in the world war veternas memorial cemeteries as far as the eye can see. The price of freedom is eternal slouching.
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>>533975936
>Pressing the red button literally does NOTHING

Blue=Maybe survive
Abstain=Fate in hands of others
Red=Survive regardless of outcome
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>>533975754
>"I want to live" is mental gymnastics
lol
>Every intelligent person will press RED
yes
A more accurate version of this meme would be the girl taking two steps, and being dead on the third.
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>>533976182
I don't care if you vote red and want to save your skin, I just believe blue pressers outnumber you
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>>533976101
abstaining is the same as blue, you just don't increase blues chances lol
Why are you adding options anyway
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>Redchads: Believe in humanity and trusts them to not push the button that kills you
>Bluevirgins: Believe that "those" people are too retarded to take care of themselves and need to be saved
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>>533976101
Red=Abstain, you utter sack of door knobs.
The red button simply exists to give the blue button pushes someone to blame for their retarded choice.
You could have ten buttons, fifty, a hundred. Only the blue button causes an outcome. Which means, effectively there is only the choice between pressing, or not pressing the blue button.
Do you press blue or not?
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>>533975754
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>>533972692
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>>533976288
>I don't want to think, I want to BELIEVE
Are you by chance a Disney adult too?
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The blue button is the witch's house in Hansel and Gretel; something sinister dressed as a positive.
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>>533976400
KEK
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Chinks would press red. Jews would press red Jeets would press red. Just about literally any nation of people on earth whose minds haven't been poisoned by suicidal empathy would press red. Whites are the only ones voting blue. Whites are also the only ones becoming minorities in their own countries. Coincidence?
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>>533976308
>Why are you adding options anyway
>>533976356
>Red=Abstain, you utter sack of door knobs.

These people are allowed by law to vote in national elections.
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>>533976400
/thread
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>>533976522
Explain, in great detail how pressing the red button does not equal to NOT pressing the blue button. Ill wait.
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Red vs Blue is thinkers vs feelers.
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>>533976600
More like thinkers vs retarded cattle people
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>>533976600
Also a pretty fun super early youtube Halo series.
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>>533976673
>Retarded cattle people
Yeah...feelers.
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>>533972692
>Red or Blue? Will the answer ever be found?
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>>533976500
And Japanese
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This question would be much more interesting if there was an actual consequence for the majority voting red that makes it less desirable (but safer) over the majority voting blue like an actual prisoner’s dilemma question. Like the reds are guaranteed to survive but they lose their left hand or something. Would like to see how the votes pan out then.
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>>533975333
>if I don't do it someone else will
this is blue mentality to a T
You don't need to consider that to press red, you only need to understand that one option is guaranteed survival and the other introduces risk for no reward.
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>>533974311
>I don't think red would win, fairly certain about it
Which button would you tell your kid to press? You want the 100% safe option or would you rather risk your kid's life?
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>>533976288
So what's the plan when there are more blue voters than red? Ive seen enough bluefags posting that they would kill anyone caught voting red, thus making their choice purely performative
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>>533976865
No, its much more interesting and telling as is.
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>>533972692
the only slightly compelling argument I've seen to picking blue is to reduce the chance of a sizable chunk of the population dying which would cause a lot of issues worldwide, only slightly because people were basing it on fucking endgame
Even then I don't think blue has a chance of winning in a real scenario
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Its amazing to see how far redfags will go to justify their own cowardice. I even saw some claiming that bluefags are the real low-trust people, and not redfags. Just invent your own narrative and detach yourself from reality to not feel bad about yourself for not pressing red I guess. Didnt expect /pol/ to be filled with that many cowards.
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>>533977017
>muh feelings
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>>533977017
No argument made.
You would die pointlessly because of your stupidity and stubbornness.
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>>533977017
What's more low trust? Hand holding niggers that ruin society or trusting people to make the right choices without savior complex tards looking over their backs to make sure they vote right?
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>>533976589
>Explain, in great detail how pressing the red button does not equal to NOT pressing the blue button. Ill wait.

Red win = Blues die
Red loss = Everyone lives

Following so far?

Blue win = Everyone lives
Blue loss with 51% no press = Blues Die

Still following? We still in agreement?
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>>533977017
They're cowards and contemptuous. I want red pushers to live, even though they seem almost gleeful that us blue pushers will die.
I too am a bit surprised so many on pol are choosing the selfish, cowardly, and contemptuous option.
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>>533977017
this thread has some of the funniest red arguments yet where they have to reword the dilemma so that the red button doesn't exist to absolve themselves of the guilt pushing red. they know they're wrong and can't stop seething about it
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>>533977272
I don’t care about which is high or low trust but personally speaking I’d prefer live in a society with people willing to risk their lives for my sake over a society of “intelligent” people.
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Will you hunt? There is a chance you may die.
>"No way!" said the red button pusher as he subsisted on an inadequate diet of foraged nuts, grass, and dirt. "I want to live!"
Will you explore? There is a chance you may die.
>"No way!" said the red button pusher as he wallowed in mediocrity. "I want to live!"
Will you mine? There is a chance you may die.
>"No way!" said the red button pusher as others around him collected riches. "I want to live!"
Will you fight? There is a chance you may die.
>"No way!" said the red button pusher as he and his fellow countrymen were conquered. "I want to live!"
Will you save them? There is a chance you may die.
>"No way!" said the red button pusher as his friends and family perished. "I want to live!"
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>>533977397
I don't want blue pushers to die. Blue pushers want blue pushers to die.
>>533977451
There is no dilemma other than the one blue pushers create for themselves.
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>massive woodchipper exists
>if more than half of your group jumps in it will break and not kill anyone, otherwise whoever jumped in dies
>you can also just not jump in
>somehow the people who din't jump are supposed to be guilty for the death of the people who jumped
bluefags are mentally ill
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>>533977451
>the guilt
I don't feel guilty when other people made poor decisions.
The reason we reword the dilemma is because you people are incredibly stupid and we're trying to get through your thick skulls.
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>>533977552
>blues completely changing the hypothetical to seem less retarded
lol, lmao even
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>>533977552
False equivalence : you are asking to put our life in danger just because someone else did , because someone else did , because someone else did...
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>>533977397
You are basically putting your neck on a chopping block and then trusting Somalis, Haitians, Arabs and all kinds of oogaboogas not the swing an axe down on it. You are an idiot.
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>>533977658
That's not changing the hypothetical. That's just explaining who red pushers are at their core: spiritual niggers.
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>>533977552
The only thing blues do is hallucinate conditions into the scenario to justify their retarded choice. Yes to all of those btw, there's actually a reason to do them, unlike the blue button.
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>>533977775
yes it is, hunting, exploring, mining, fighting and saving people who presumably din't put themselves in harms way all bring sizable benefits to blue that red would not get
in the actual hypothetical you don't get anything for picking blue over red
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>>533977775
>That's not changing the hypothetical
It is. All of those listed have worthwhile benefits for the risk. The blue button has 100% of the risk, the red button does not.
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>>533977552
Red pressers accept personal risk for their behavior. Bluefags want other people to cover for their own poor choices
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>>533977775
You're trying to equate a risk that comes with a reward to a risk with no reward. You are retarded.
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>>533977396
Of course we agree, pressing red is the same as NOT pressing blue. Therefore pressing red = Abstaining from pressing blue.
Therefore NOT pressing blue is the same as pressing red. Regardless, red is irrelevant to the equation.
51% press red (abstain from pressing blue)
100% of blue pressers die
50% press red (again, also = to simply NOT pressing blue) 100% of blue pressers live.
Red does not factor at all, as pressing red is the same as NOT pressing blue.
Its essentially 2+2-2=4
You're arguing that the -2 is essential to get the sum of 4. Its not. You can simply say 2+2=4. You're an idiot.
Explain to me how pressing red does NOT equal to NOT pressing blue. You haven't.
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>pushing the blue button
>namecall, gaslight and guilt-trip others because you pushed blue button
what causes this?
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I still remember it like it was yesterday. I was sitting in my skid-marked Razer gaming chair (I'm doing no jocks January and need to clean up a little), browsing one-handed in the basement of my mom's house (planning on contributing to the rent payments next year when I get a job and turn 39) just hilariously trolling people on the internet while I drank down my Mountain Dew and snacked on Cheetos.

Then I saw it. Red vs Blue – First-look tweet. I almost choked on a Cheeto and sat up and clicked the video. It was glorious. It looked amazing. I was watching it on my 42" 4k 120hz OLED montior powered by my 9800X3D & RTX4090 (soon to be retired for the beast itself, the RTX5090) so I could see literally every pixel of the buttons. It was exactly what I had dreamt of all these years: the faggotry, but amplified. I saw that it was going to have a further reveal in April, so I had to cancel plans on continuing college (been there since I graduated high-school, just haven't found a major that interests me yet, thinking of majoring in Philosophy next year - something useful for businesses), but I know for certain the Red v Blue spam will be the most important moment in my life and had to clear up space for me to own the leaderboards in reply count.

Where were you when you saw the Red vs Blue button tweet?
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>>533976589
>Explain, in great detail how pressing the red button does not equal to NOT pressing the blue button. Ill wait.
>>533977396
>Still following? We still in agreement?

Anyway, here is the thing. The only way to introduce death into the scenario is the blue button.

Everyone always survives through Red or Abstain. Death is only possible if the blue button is touched, for any possible outcome.

Red does not equal Abstain because Red is a moral and ethical refutation of suicide.

That's the test.
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>>533978050
performative bullshit, virtue signalling, faggotry.... whatever you want to call it
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>>533972773
true
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>>533972692
blue = high trust altruistic White society
red = low trust egoistic nigger hive
if you think blue is the wrong choice well then you are a nigger or behave like a nigger, really not much to discuss here.
>but you die when i press the red button!!
yes i know you are a nigger and want White people gone. what the experiment omits is that red pressers will have to personally kill blue pressers when the vote is for red, and they are edging on that thought
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>>533978143
Or...you could just NOT press the blue button. You don't need any other buttons to press. Understand? And I meant 2+2-2 =2 dont @ me.
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>>533978050
>>namecall, gaslight and guilt-trip others because you pushed blue button
>what causes this?
Normies are mentally retarded.
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>>533977757
So you admit red button pushers are Somalis, Haitians, Arabsz and other boogaloos? That doesn't sound like a group I'd want to be a part of, but I do see the connection.
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>>533978247
Why are blue dudes the only ones with omicidal fantasies ?
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why has this question buck broke /pol/?

you did choose the right color, right anon?
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>>533978247
>blue = high trust altruistic White society
>red = low trust egoistic nigger hive
Nope. Blue is the suicidal empathy button and any white that pushes it would be commiting suicide.
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>>533978247
blue simply results in our current society if it wins
red results in a society of people that operate based on logic rather than emotion if it wins
one is clearly preferable
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>>533978050
textbook slave morality really
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>>533978326

Or...(You) could just NOT press the blue button.

In the One Button test everyone lives every time by sitting on their hands.

Death is guaranteed for any button presser up to the 49.9% threshold.

Do nothing = Live
Push the button = Possible death.

I really don't see your point.
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>>533978400
>Boogaloos eat food and drink water
>Therefore I shouldn't eat food and drink water because they're stupid and I'm smart and I don't do things stupid people do
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>>533978400
>That doesn't sound like a group I'd want to be a part of
adn yet, people that push blue are the ones that invite the subhumans into their home
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>>533977017
>people will make the incorrect decision so I must make the incorrect decision as well
t. Blue Button Lemming Fag
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>>533972692
http://reichandlowentherapy.org/Content/Character/Oral/oral_communicator.html

The inclination of the oral is to find out 'the right thing to do' and do it. Therefore the oral is capable of greatly moral or pro-social acts. But implementing good ideas may be difficult. There is a tendency for orals to focus intensely on their intentions and plans, past and present, and treat results as fairly inconsequential or the responsibility of others. Ideas are untested in the world, and while that idealism may sometimes bear fruit, often naive and unrealistic positions remain. The 'way things should be' is much more important than 'the way things almost always are.' This can lead the oral to be at odds with instinctual tendencies in others and society that prevent 'things from being the way they should be'.
Large abstract global causes may be championed, with no real demands on the ego, but smaller specific injustices to specific known people closer to home may be unopposed because the ego strength is not present for an actual fight. They often champion the cause of under-dogs and minorities, idealizing those with little power. This comes from the feeling of having been deprived and cheated, which is repressed and projected onto others. It is sometimes said that orals dislike the people they know, and like the people they don't know.
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>>533977016
most blue button pressers would not even consider it in a non hypothetical scenario, the people that are drawn to the blue button can easily virtue signal in a hypothetical scenario but only the most bleeding heart retards would take the option if it was life or death
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>>533972692
Just press whatever the fuck you want nigger. Why’s everyone all up in my business about which button i press?? I’ll press your mom’s button.
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>>533978402
>>533978457
>>533978514
nobody has to die until red pressers show up
what does that tell me about (You)
if you must press the red one because you project your mistrust in others onto others, you are the problem why humanity is as fucked as it is
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>>533978577
Exactly THAT'S the test. The red button is just there to obfuscate the issue and expose the retards. It is essentially the same as NOT pressing the blue button. Remove the red button and it becomes much clearer who the true retards are. The equation is literally
>Press this button and possibly die.
Adding the red button is simply pointing out an option that exists regardless if you point it out. Press the blue button and possibly die OR eat some oatmeal and live, talk a walk and live, sing a song and live.
It's irrelevant that it is another button.
Regardless, plenty of people would press the blue button even if it was the only option. It's a mental slight of hand.
Oooohhh look at this red button! Don't look at the red button, the red button is a distraction. Focus on what is being asked. Do you want to kill yourself? Or don't you?
You press the blue button, or you don't. That's the equation. Everything else is irrelevant.
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>>533978050
I see way more redchads making responses to bluefag cope while bluefags hardly respond to redchad arguments
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>>533978832
>Why’s everyone all up in my business about which button i press??
Blue pressers need to know who is a "bad person." That's the only reason.
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>>533978934
>nobody has to die until red pressers show up

Got that backwards, Anon.
Death is not possible for anyone until the first press of the blue button.
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>>533978934
Well said, buddy. Here's your treat!
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>>533979119
the condition of anyone having a detrimental outcome is tied to the red button only
look at the buttons and imagine the other doesn’t exist
one says everyone gets to live
one says if you are a lot you’ll kill anyone who didn’t think like you
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>sacrifice yourself to save people who were only in danger due to their own actions
Do we know anyone who did that? We don't want to be like that person, do we?
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>>533978023
Why are you such a midwit? science nigger/jordan peterson energy
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>>533979266
>the condition of anyone having a detrimental outcome is tied to the red button only
No.
>one says if you are a lot you’ll kill anyone who didn’t think like you
Blues are unironically saying this shit to reds on social media.
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>>533979266
It is litteraly the opposite of what you are saying
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>>533978934
So you're saying that if people started pressing the red button before bluefags showed up, then it would be on the blues to not fucking commit die?
Nah fuck you, bud. If you risked going down with the ship to give a faux act of how reds are immoral for voting red at all, then you deserve it.
Don't pretend like you hold some sort of moral high ground when you actively chose this path.
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>>533979366
I can't fucking resurrect though
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>>533978247
Why is anyone pressing blue? If this got changed to getting some small amount of cash for pressing red, then maybe it works, you just have suicidal empathy
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>>533979266
>look at the buttons and imagine the other doesn’t exist
Okay...
Press this red button. Nothing happens you win!
Press this blue button. Oopsie not enough people pressed it, you lose.
Blue is the issue. Red is irrelevant. Red is simply not pressing blue and only blue pressers can die. Therefore, blue is the bad button.
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Reds just ignore the children argument. Bad faith sophistry. No point arguing.
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>>533972692
Blue is the gamble. If you press blue you’re betting on 50% of the world also pressing blue. If you press red you just get to live. Since there’s no associated coercive element to the “selfish” choice like there usually is in morally dilemmas (like if red forced someone else to die), you obviously just pick red. Online polls show blue winning but in real life everyone would obviously pick red. A few complete retards or genuinely suicidal people might choose blue, but since there’s no reason to, there’s also no point in throwing your own life away. And even if everyone does vote blue for some reason, you still live if you voted red. Red is the objective correct decision so I’d choose that and just ignore all the women and moralist retards who think otherwise.
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>>533972692
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>>533979266
>look at the buttons and imagine the other doesn’t exist

Red win = blues die

Red button only
No blues
Reds win = no blues to kill
Abstain win = reds lose everyone lives

Blue button only
No reds
Blues win = everyone lives
Abstain win = blues lose, blues die.


hummm.....
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>>533979426
>No argument
Pressing red is the same as not pressing blue.
Know how I know?
Because in order to press red (or literally do anything at all else) you must NOT press blue. Ergo pressing red=not pressing blue.
I'm sorry your skin is brown, but really, it's not my problem.
Ill even flip it for ya. Pressing blue is the same as not pressing red, however with the added treat of possibly dying.
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>>533979622
>>533976907
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>>533979622
>alters the hypothetical by including people who don't even comprehend what is happening to create an emotinal weight in favor of blue
your bad faith sophistry will remain ignored
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redfags = blackpilled
bluefags = hopepilled
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>>533972692
Pressing blue is just stupid. It would only make sense to press blue if there were more rules, eg if you could only press red if you had a certain level of wealth, or 100 million people are chosen at random and if the rest of the world doesn’t vote at least 50% blue those people will die (along with those who vote blue). As it stand, choosing blue is unnecessarily burdening yourself on others
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>>533979729
how do you lose a game with one single button
it’s designed to expose sociopaths and it’s working beautifully
do another thing, imagine an alien society where no money exists, everyone does what they want and everyone has what they want or need. if that concept doesn’t work in your mind, it’s because you are the why it doesn’t work. and you don’t even understand why and you never will. that’s what separates them from you
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>>533979622
Even if children are a factor, your one vote still barely registers on the global scale. You’d still be betting on 50% of the rest of the world, complete strangers, choosing blue. If red handedly outvotes blue then you just die along with the children. I’d still rather live and then be around to help take care of the children who also pressed red. Children and mentally inept etc aren’t going to press blue by default, they could just as easily press red.
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>>533979487
Jesus will resurrect you
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>>533979729
There is no actual abstain option... Everyone must press red or blue. My point is that red effectively becomes abstain from pressing blue...Maybe that's where we got crossed? You thought there were three options?
There aren't. There are two, I simplified it to get blues to understand how retarded their choice is. Only by pressing blue does one put themselves at risk. Not pressing blue (pressing red) removes the risk.
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>>533973724
I cannot wait.
Bring it all down please.
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>>533979980
>marxist fantasy
I said that blue people are leftist
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>>533980152
q.e.d.
concession accepted
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I can’t believe blue pushers even exist?
If everyone just pushes red then there’s no problem.
Blue pressers should probably just die. Only takes a little communication to fix this.
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>>533979099
Blue pressers are spiritual vegans and believe in democracy. It’s not surprising i see a lot of blue germans and nordcucks.
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>>533979980
>how do you lose a game with one single button

Not my thought experiment.
2 x 2 outcome matrix within the set boundary conditions of the original question.

Under all conditions, even the one button win conditions, death is only possible with the blue button.
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>>533979980
There’s no point to pressing blue.
If everyone presses red everyone lives.
Only blue puts itself at risk.
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>>533979973
Yah this.
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>>533980068
that's a completely different scenario, for it to fit it would have to be one normal boat and one rigged to explode unless half of the people who are getting in on the boats enter it, there is no rewards or penalty for choosing either boat and both can accomodate everyone
everyone sane would choose the normal one
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>>533979980
>communism
I quite literally don't have time to explain the rationale of how that society will never exist to a middling IQ nitwit like you.
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>>533979980
You are fucking retarded dude.
Press blue please.
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>>533980427
>You are fucking retarded dude
WE DON'T CALL PEOPLE THAT IN GERMANY
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>>533980113
>.Maybe that's where we got crossed?

Agreed.
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>>533980423
>nooo it cannot work because niggers like myself exist
lol
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>>533980590
>it will work this time bro , one thousand time the charm
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>>533979019
Civilization only works because everyone puts a little piece of themselves on it. Pretty sure the blue button is an analogy for that. Thats why the result is death when you dont get enough blue button pressers. Civilization collapses when you stop contributing to it. The blue button is a vote for civilization itself. Not pushing it, or chosing red is basically chosing to have a gibs mentality and be a parasitic freeloader. Redfags are the "winners" of the game so to speak, while bluefags are the "suckers". Its a very long nosed mentality.
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>>533980747
>my car doesn’t drive because niggers like myself actively press the brakes



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