When will the political consequences happen?
>>533983563The US cannot back down. It would mean the ocean empire is over.The US also cannot invade a country of 90 million people that have been preparing for 40 years at short notice.Fake negotiations will go back and forth for a few months until the US is ready to invade. During that time Iran will have received a lot of weapons from Russia and China.
>>533983653I do think the US can win the war, but at what cost?
>>533983653>During that time Iran will have received a lot of weapons from Russia and China.lmao
>>533983706China has more people in manufacturing than the US has people.
>>533983838that's because they're poor
>>533983892Im not sure it matters what a china man is paid if he can make 10x more than an american.
>>533983668That's what Jewish and shabbos goyim control of finance and real estate does to a county
>>533983563Well, Trump was on Fox News this weekend comparing it to Vietnam ("Vietnam was how many years? This is only a few weeks"). So that's where we are.
>>533983563They literally just tried to kill the president OP.
>>533983563>just like in my goyslop Marvel mooooovies!
>>533983563Unironically, 2 more weeks.
>>533983653Interesting take. This has been dragging on for awhile.
We're an oil producer the hundred dollar barrel is good for us. The country makes money the longer this war goes on.
>>533983563>leftist globohomo jew shills still seem to be of the opinion the Strait is just gonna open back up and the world will go back to the way they’re used to You fools still haven’t understood this is a paradigm changing thing. The world oil markets are being changed. The days of the Middle East being wealthy oil exporters are over.North America and Venezuela are the new oil exporters. China, India and Russia lose in this deal, but Russia much less so.
>>533984220>The country makes money the longer this war goes on.Nigger, oil companies make that money, everyone else pays more for food and gas and has less money. Kys.
>>533984220> The country makes money the longer this war goes on.North America is the new oil exporter de jure of the world, along with Venezuela. Cheap abundant energy was alawys going to be necessary for a production economy renewal. While production will become competitively cheap and secure in North America, it’s going to become comparatively expensive and unreliable due to a lot of factors in places like China or India. This shits chess it ain’t checkers nigger
>>533983563I think the world stand to benefit if we could phase out radical regimes from the oil market. It will be higher prices while we adjust but it's worth it for peace long term.
>>533984281That’s true but it’s a relatively temporary thing while this dogshit globalism world has the structural setup it’s relied on taken apart. A large percentage of those profits will probably go into investing in new production and wells, boosting production further.The point of all of this I think is to make the conditions of the U.S. being a manufacturing power again feasible. American workers already make peanuts and have essentially no rights or benefits compared to others around the world now. AI is going to help with a lot of efficiency stuff. Access to an ocean of comparatively quite cheap oil was the last piece of the puzzle missing. I’m fairly sure every time the U.S. has built itself into a manufacturing power it has been because cheap, abundant energy has been locally available. This is about recreating the conditions of a manufacturing economy renewal
>>533983563OIL WILL REACH USD$100,000 A BARRELBUY NOW
>>533983989it matters to the china man>>533984047why is the USA so much better off then?
>>533983706China literally got caught sending them weapons already>>533983563There won't be any, most Americans are so weak they'd rather let the country rot than ever admit they fucked up.
>>533985333how did they perform?
>>533983563republicans may lose the senate
>>533985333> China literally got caught sending them weapons alreadyThey haven’t admitted it and publicly acknowledged that. So far it’s just globohomo jew claims of what was on that captured ship. No one believes globohomo jew claims by default. Therefore we can’t assume any of that until it’s open, publicly available and independently verified
>>533985489>They haven’t admitted it and publicly acknowledged that.Why would they? Xi fears the orange.
>>533985455> republicans may lose the senateYou globohomo jew leftist are hilarious. No attempt to strategize about where things are going or how you might improve things. Just>hurr muh blue team gonna winNo wonder your kind doesn’t manifest anything other than eternally predictable White man bad policies
>>533985133Because not only is the number bullshit, it is sustained by military destruction of adversaries and constant threats to allies to stay in line wrt the petrodollar. Printing infinite money to inflate your assets and continue servicing debt is only a feature of the dominant financial-military hegemon. Canada is a fully dependent colony of that hegemon that doesn't even have the ability to extract its own resources because it would drive down returns from the assets/stocks owned by Canadian ruling class - who are fully subservient to the American ruling factions .
>>533983653>The US cannot back down. It would mean the ocean empire is over.it will though, Trump is near his 60 day limit for war powers without congressional approval (money) and I doubt they will approve. Trump will declare victory anyway and Iran will collect tolls on the strait. Not sure what will happen after that but yeah in any event US credibility has been damaged badly by this whole thing. Gulf arabs been shown that US defense assurances don't mean much
>>533985552None of that makes any difference. What matters is that Globohomo jew media is fundamentally untrustworthy in every way. So claims like that simply cannot be seriously considered until it can be independently verified. The entire Ukraine-Russia war has gone down that way.
>>533985388This happened during the ceasefire. The exact scenario you were denying.>>533985489Why the fuck would they admit it lmaoThis information came from American intelligence.
>>533985602he's right though. the GOP is fucked. all I hear from normalfags these days is "I wish I voted for the brat Kamala. The Republican attacks on trans children are evil and I'm voting straight blue now. JD Vance is so weird"
>>533985623if the number is bullshit, then why did you say what you said before instead of that?>>533985665How could it be independently verified anon? Explain.>>533985710I asked how they performed.
>>533985664> Trump is near his 60 day limit for war powers without congressional approval (money) and I doubt they will approve. Is this your first time learning about the globohomo jew leftists in congress anon? They’ll vote to approve that shit, they always do. The only thing they can actually ever get done are policies which are domestic and implicitly or explicitly are bad for men and more specifically White men. They eagerly vote for ever jew war and always have. This time will be no exception. You must be one of those young lefties who still hasn’t learned all of their virtue signaling theater is just that. lol
>>533983563In due time.Inventory supplies have to run out first.Then the bidding wars begin.Then the shortages.Once Europe's shit SPR runs out, then the chaos can truly begin.Australia already needed an emergency shipment from the US.
>>533984872NIGGER, consumerism the main driver of the economy, not production. This isn't anywhere close to China. The consumer is fucked right now per the UMich survey and other indicators like the hire rate. AI is a massive bubble and it will burst, it just might take 2 weeks.
>>533985133>why is the USA so much better off then?Wow, you're really tonedeafYou pay $99 for a steakChina pays $2 for a full chickenAnyway, You Should ApplyYour Taxes Paid For This
>>533985879>You must be one of those young lefties who still hasn’t learnedI'm not young and I'm not a lefty. I think it's more likely that it isn't even voted on because it will be claimed that hostilities are over already anyway, rather than an out right no vote. But we'll see. This action is deeply unpopular and it is an election year.
>>533986075>You pay $99 for a steakno, definitely not. what a silly thing to say lol
>>533985781The same way all kinds of claims and daily happenings are being independently verified through open source data in the Russia-Ukraine war. If you were actually paying attention to any of it, you would understand that’s already happening. For example, when a drone video is published of an attack on some position, it gets geolocated and is used as verifiable evidence of positions in a close to something resembling real time as we can get. Globohomo jew claims of what was and wasn’t on some chink ship going to Iran simply cannot be trusted by definition.
>>533986142So if CENTCOM posted pics of the cargo of that ship, you'd believe it?
>>533983653>Fake negotiations will go back and forth for a few months until the US is ready to invadeThey are probably praying for a terror attack or similar that will give them premise to cancel midterm elections... or maybe if they invade they'll use protests to do it.
>>533986021> consumerism the main driver of the economy, not production.The economy you’re used to and you’ve known your entire life retard. But that doesn’t mean it is or even should be eternal. It’s being switched back to a production economy from a consumer one. If you can’t see that this process is already started, you’re NGMI.Do yourself a favor and buy some fucking stocks in something like Chevron and get in on the new Saudi Arabia of the western hemisphere that Venezuela is gonna get turned in to. Or don’t believe me and stay poor in the future
Oil is $96.90 right now.
>>533986231No. Not without some way of independently verifying things through third party sources and means. One of the belligerents in a war like that making one sided claims should always be treated with extreme skepticism. Those of us who live in western countries used to believe our institutions and media a lot more but those days are long gone and probably not coming back for a while.
>>533986112>no, definitely not. what a silly thing to say lolThere was a thread earlier today showing a 5lb pack of USDA Prime Ribeye steaks for $99. Key takeaway is that chinksects and 3rd world brownshits cant comprehend USDA graded meat, or even specific cuts of meat from a cow at all because their countries operate at sub-human quality control for food.The pic was clearly old and that $99 pack of USDA Prime steaks would probably cost $150-200 today. Chinksect 3rd worlders are so far out of the loop of the American economy they dont understand the pic that was supposed to be some kind of high cost of living propaganda actually showed a great deal for the most prized cut from the beef. They still think the pic is some sort of own due to their lack economic security, living standards, and lack of intellect.Funny, thoughbeit sad how poor some 3rd worlders are, they miss out on the basic pleasures of this life such as rib roast cuts that can be eaten undercooked, running water, indoor plumbing, etc.......cruel world innit?
>>533983563The midterms I guess, I don't expect to see political consequences before then because everyone is apathetic about dealing with retarded trump antics daily.
>>533983706>RussiaWhat weapons are they going to send if they don't have any?
Israel is going to nuke Iran, and America will be coerced into covering for them and taking the blame MARK MY FUCKIN WORDS
>>533986596Venezuela was a nothing burger, nothing was functionally changed there and nobody really wants to invest in an unstable region where companies already got burnt previously when oil got nationalized.
>>533986972Anyone who thinks that Trump is calling the shots is truly goycattle who deserves to be enslaved by kikes
>>533986112>>533976496
>>533983653>Fake negotiations will go back and forth for a few months until the US is ready to invade. By then the global economy and financial markets will be crashing so hard Trump won’t be able to invade
>>533986303>that will give them premise to cancel midterm electionsYou have to be 18 to post here, kid.
its a shame i wont see it become 500 a barrel in my lifetime. oil is undervalued. it needs to go to 1 trillion dollars a barrell so we can pay off our national debt
>>533983563The US won and Iran is getting weaker by the day. People who think otherwise are beyond retarded.
>>533987636>$99 for a steak>look inside>3 steaksY'all not believe in fractions in temu texas?
>>533983693America could win easily, but it can’t with Bolshevik leadership and weak jews in charge. The solution is to make Iran uninhabitable by killing as many civilians as possible.
>>533983653>until the US is ready to invadeYou're retarded and understand nothing.
>>533984220>9 jew billionaires make more money>good for usIf it's about enriching the American people then nationalize the oil.
Shut up. Shouldn’t you be playing pingpongOr having a shit?You fucking idiot, just like with the russia-ukraine war AND the covid hoax the mass shit chatting by boring idiot sneaking wangs and poonews addicted shitjeets plays right into the hands of the cunts creating the situation and drowns out the clever takes in>listen to me react to the media saar.The Venezuela-Iran job is a Warpspeed SCAM. Just shut the fuck up. >muh over $100as the price of oil often is. That’ll bring “consequences” you stupid bastard. The consequence being billionaires getting richer. While you bore us all as you’ve been doing for weeks.
>>533988193>The solution is to make Iran uninhabitable by killing as many civilians as possible.That's probably not necessary, but a big place like Iran would have a lot of trouble fighting effectively without communication and transportation and the US could slow both to a crawl.
>>533983563Why Aryan bvlls always buck broken jewish vermins ?
>>533983693Usa cannot win.
>>533986736So what would it be then?>>533986875tl;dr
>>533987280>Venezuela was a nothing burger, nothing was functionally changed thereWe got rid of a Globalist puppet in Maduro. Cartel del Sol is the largest cartel in south and central America and now it's out of the globalists hands. They will have elections and it will be with a leader that is interested in what's good for Venezuela, not the city of london.
>>533988193>The solution is to make Iran uninhabitable by killing as many civilians as possible.This is a horrific non-solution, which is probably the only reason the nukes haven't been launched already. We cannot kill Iran without them destroying 100% of oil infrastructure in the Middle East and likely destroying most/all of Israel. Getting all that stuff back online is like trying to build a raft to save yourself from drowning, it won't stop the cascading failures that will cause a global war that will tank the empire even more than the war already has. I guarantee if there's a world war right now, we will exit with China as the new America. And if you thought White genocide was bad now, wait until Western nations have no physical deterrence and everyone on Earth knows someone who starved because of orange boomer. Best case is orange migger declares victory, lies through his teeth as we exit in disgrace, gets swept in the midterms, impeached and the Dems helm the further decline of the empire. Maybe there's a chance for something good later, but definitely not right now.
>>533990215> We cannot kill Iran without them destroying 100% of oil infrastructure in the Middle East and likely destroying most/all of Israel.And?> global warAnd?> China as the new AmericaThat fate is already certain because our elites chose that future and refuse an alternative. Given the current parameters, at best you can do enough damage through death to ensure their ascent is a slow multi-century climb.The debt is due. If the ruling class wish to forgo paying the debt owed, they must pay with death. These are simple rules, and we aren’t getting around that reality.
>>533990215>>533991288Both of you morons seem to have forgotten that Iran is doing well because their war goals are just survive and Trump's goal is regime change without taking major losses or oil getting too expensive. If America was truly in mortal peril we'd risk ships in the gulf and Iran's abilities to attack the gulf states or close the strait degrade considerably.
