Why do conservatives deny climate change? This never made sense to me.
>>534410958>Why do conservatives deny climate change?They are just contrarian. They aso denied COVID for same reason.
Because it has been debunked, fool. And your rebunking will fail. You lost, tranny.
>>534410958To own the libtards and to appear manly
>>534410958they are the same people that think the earth is flat or that dinosaurs didn't exist. they can't understand science and so they think it must be fake
>>534411013Climate change is real I felt it I lived longer than 40 years. Who is dojng it I dunno but I feel it.
>>534410958Because the proposed solutions are politically inconvenient for them.
Irrelevant since TBTP implemented Agenda 2030 via other means, i.e. making the very policies they would advocate to "stop climate change" not only inevitable, but highly desirable, via scarcity and economic terrorism
>>534410958The current CO2 is at 430 ppm. For referen CO2 isnt toxic until it's at 40,000ppm , it's not deadly until 250,000ppm.Don't believe me? Go into your closet and shut the door and sit there for 24hrs.
>>534411054Maybe you're just a kid with a manipulated imagination? I'm 60, kiddo.
>>534410958Im not conservative but I think we plugged the earth glacial cycle with hydrocarbon pollution. God did say no more floods. It didn't say how it would achieve that end. If god is within then that just makes it hilariously ironic. Eat shit Greta.
>>534411201430 ppm = 430/1000,000 = 0.00043
>>534410958changing your habits and not polluting the environment like a brown third world nigger is for TRANNYS AND LEFTISTS.
do americans believe in ecology in general? the fact that ressources are finite, that the earth is precious and that we should try to leave it in a good state after we pass?
>>534411267>t. Lord of nature
>>534411209i'm a third of your age and i remember winters having deep snow. that hasn't happened for a decade now
>>534411219>hydrocarbonThe hydrocarbon cycle isn't taught in schools because it implies renewability and natural processes
>>534411033>they can't understand sciencescience says men can't be women
>>534411354So? Why does that mean you're causing that?
>>534410958if you do winter sports you know.niggers can't gaslight me that the ski season hasn't been getting shorter and shorter every fucking year.
If global warming is real, then why is Canada so cold? Checkmate scientists.
>>534411201you should know that the argument goes way further than CO2 in the atmosphere. Let me put it in a way a conservative understands: what we are collectively doing to our planet is what we stereotypically think of what Indians do to their rivers/dumpsters. It is not sustainable, the plastic is going to your balls and brains, and while you have complete disregard for wildlife by itself, you need to understand that we as a planet need it in some sort of equilibrium. It is easy for a nigger to litter, as he does not recognize it inadvertently causes problems that go around and reach him eventually. This is you."Nature is our mother, we are sucklings at her breastAnd he who tries to beat her down will lose her to the rest"
>>534411393why are the low IQ predisposed to memetically repeating this? do you think climatologists or plasma physicists are also doing "gender research" studies?
>>534411426i didn't say i caused it, i am saying that i still observed the climate change even at my age. my father said when he was a kid, winter storms would make massive icicles on the side of his house. it eventually stopped happening. whether humans cause it or not, the climate is obviously dynamic
>>534411589Duh. No one ever claimed otherwise. The disputed claim is that muh humans caused it.
Why do we need polar bears anyway?
>>534410958Conservatives don't give a shit about conserving nature. Pun intended.
>>534411657you said it was "debunked" without OP specifying the cause of it
>>534411761If there's no human cause, then what's there to deny or debunk? Shit, it's cold out. Better get a jacket.
>>534411823some people deny climate change entirely
>>534410958people will believe whatever their paycheck needs them to believe
>>534410958Conservatives are immoral “people”. They don’t actually care if climate change is real; they understand that the consequences are far enough in the future that they’ll be dead before it becomes a real threat to humanity. Conservative politicians are bought and paid for servants of organizations which want us to drain every gallon of oil out of the ground to line their pockets with extra cash and they don’t care what’s going to happen in 2100. At all. Conservative voters are by and large simpleton fuckwits who will support whatever their masters support. They unironically believe that things like Trump’s tariffs are good ideas we ought celebrate. They regard our cultural dominance of the whole world as a “waste of money” when they hear about us giving aid to other nations, even when that aid directly has a higher rate of return than what is spent. As long as daddy government (red color) says so and as long as daddy government (blue color) doesn’t. These fucking football brained morons couldn’t tell their asses from their faces if they weren’t told what to think by daddy government (red color). In short, they’re just plain stupid people.Yes, this includes your dad.
>>534411891Climate is the average of 30 years' worth of weather. That's the definition. You can't deny a definition. How would that even work?
>>534411589Are the climate kikes still saying that (((climate change))) leads to hotter summers and colder winters, or have they changed their tune again (at least until we get a colder than average winter)?
Why is this thread full of semen-gargling faggots?
>>534411657Yes boomer I’m sure dumping chemicals into the water and gass into the atmosphere have no negative effects on the world, why can’t you people be dead Al ready?
>>534411989i don't know, which is why it is illogical for conservatives to adhere to that belief
>>534410958Because it isn't real. Each leftist is a valid target for acts of violence.
>>534410958Because liberals always frame it in an apocalyptic scenario, such as the polar ice caps melting and flooding the Earth. They double down by making time specific doomsday predictions that never come true, like how New Orleans was supposed to be underwater two years ago. Then consider that the people pushing these narratives the hardest are also the types who want to repeal the 2nd amendment, fire you from your job for declining to take a vaccine, and make you believe the 6’2” fat faggot in a pink dress and high heels is an actual literal woman, and it’s easy to chalk it all up to lunatic ravings of batshit crazy people.
>>534412022are science fags still saying fucking your sister leads to birth defects???? it's all a bunch of JEW NIGGER LIES.
>>534412139You have no idea how huge the atmosphere is. 'We' have been pumping CO2 into it since the industrial revolution in the 18th century and the concentration of CO2 is still only 0.00043. That's 0.043%. If it was the concentration of alcohol in your drink, it would officially be classed as 'alcohol free'.
>>534410958MANMADE climate changeVs Climate change.Learn the difference. It could save your life.
are you people capable of arguing about a subject with arguments instead of insults
>>534412330>d'astmopere big you canot pollute it
>>534411537co2 doesnt have the ability to be anything more than a tertiary order temperature response mechanism
>>534410958Because it's an inconvenient truth.
>>5344109581pbtidvapid question thread
>>534412367sure, but the problem is we have some braindead people that believe lies about co2 here and think giving the globalists more power and money will somehow prevent a catastrophe that cant physically happen as described
>>534410958Well first of all they don't deny it, the most you'll ever see is them denying climate alarmism.Second, most of the proposals we see currently fielded aren't workable, and the international treaties that we signed to combat it without great powers feeling threatened by increasing energy costs that their rivals would take advantage of have fallen flat on their faces, mostly because the Chinese kept cheating.Third, despite it being nearly half a century since this became a known issue, renewables STILL can't replace good ol' fossil fuels, although they are approaching (and in some cases exceeding mostly due to government subsidies) cost effectiveness on par with them.That's how I view their takes, having to live with a Liberal (our right wing) father most my life. Now, I disagree with him, but that's their position.
>>534410958Why does the left insist climate change is not only happening but already at catastrophic development yet push policies like it isn't as in third world mass breeding, mass immigration and exemption deals for India, China, and Africa? Also, why don't I see any indication of ocean rise in North American cities? The whole thing seems to be a big lie.
Politician's have complained about overpopulation for decades, so God creates a fertility crisis.
>>534412438that's why I mentioned plastic, wildlife equilibrium and nigger behavior but it seems you cannot read
>>534410958There are some scientists that now believe that the earth’s plate tectonics helped make earth habitable because it allows carbon to be recycled back into the environment. Whatever excess we are pulling up now will eventually be sequestered back into the earth and then brought up again from volcanic activity. So all of it really is just fear sold to us by the media in order to scare us into having a weaker economic base and farming less. It’s all a jew psyop to weaken our economies and make food more expensive.
>>534410958They don't deny it. They just deny its origin. Man made vs natural.
>>534410958Polar bear numbers have increased, as has the amount of coral reef.
>>534410958I thought the whole planet was supposed to be under water back in 2003. Whoops the water levels didnt raise an inch... But at leaat some jews made a ton of money.
>>534411008It's getting warmer, Global warming, climate catastrophy, climate change (ridicoulous wording for the rubes) is a spring phenomenon. The new ice age they promoted before usually started in late autumn.
>>534412233but that's just your own personal issues due to clearly being an under educated dude person zero college. Like you limped past a subpar high school education in some shitty midwest state and your now an adult with little to no critical thinking skills. Being every rant like point you're trying to make is easily covered by in some cases thousands or doctors or scientist. But you're too damn stupid to understand what they are saying. Then you double down on being a pig headed moron because people like myself have been talking down to you for years. Like fuck that guy, I'm not going to read shit that makes me feel stupid! I'm just going to hang over here with people who just nod their head going well common sense says...... It's pathetic but I understand why people do it. Conservative leadership know it too and that's why they directly cater to your dim witted nature. While all being Ivy school etc college grads acting like they aren't elite class. So you support them actively working against your own interest.
>>534412524well men cause a lot of problems even without talking about the specific problem of co2. When the world over fish the ocean, we destroy ecosystems. When we cut too many trees in a country, we are causing deforestation. When we mine precious minerals without any consideration, we pollute the soil making it dangerous for people living there, unfit for agriculture, so on and so on.
>>534412581since when does pollution drive climate?aside from the co2 meme of courseyou cant even get your topics straight
>>534411823Ofc there is. Its deadly. Something deadly brewing. Ignore it or prepare.
>>534411537C02 is 0.04% of the atmosphere. When does it get dangerous?
>>534413071Just keep up with your vaccination schedule. You'll be fine.
>>534410958Too many polar bears.
>>534412262Couldn't answer the question, could ya kike?
>>534412940>I went to college and learned how to appeal to authority>smuggy mcsmugface.jpgall the edumucation and you cant understand that co2 doesnt do what the grifters have been trying to meme for 40 yearsits over, dudeyou fags have consistently failed for over 40 years to prove it and have already been caught falsifying multiple times including climategateco2 does fuckall to drive the climate, it has no capacity to, its ppm in the atmosphere is a temperature response mechanismanyone who believes otherwise is a scientifically illiterate retard
>climate has been changing for millions of years>it's happening again>"this is totally our fault, we need to raise taxes on cars and cow farts"
>>534413003>well, since I cant prove my original point I'm gonna try and prove some of these unrelated points and then try to assert that I've somehow proven my original assertionlol, lmao evenhow's about NO it doesnt work like that you faggot
>>534410958Socialists are so bad at predicting cataclysmic events for propaganda to get funding for their climate change businesses in order to get paid that who even cares if the earth explodes? Is there really anything on it worth saving anymore? Hopefully it kills all the climate change scientists
>>534412940people like yourself can’t even type correctly so I’m not too worried about it
>>534410958even if it’s real why the fuck do bleeding heart libtards try to make it the common man’s problems? not my fault if some mega corporation dumps an ungodly amount of polution illegally. i just wanna eat steak and drive a car to work, fucking leave me alone.
>>534413240my original point was about ecology, I'm not the OP. You need to relearn how to interact with people, throwing insults as a first resort is the behavior of a savage.
>>534413405the only thing that has ever made sense to me is they're just barely able to grasp the geopolitics and want to shut down oil production to kill globalization and free economies like russia and china which is why they're so wiling to lie about the actual science, socialists should be executed when they lie or else they don't stop
>>534413405yeah, but god forbid if we try to tax or sanction such corporations. because muh billionaires.
>>534413633Exactly the point, we can't hurt oil because oil makes the world go 'round. So when socialists create institutions to kill oil all they're actually doing is hurting your country under the guise of environmentalism For instance, when socialists in the US created sweeping industry emissions regulations they told everyone it was because of car exhaust, but really the socialists in the northeast were shutting down all the upstate factories on the east coast and sending them to china
>>534410958 >>534411008
>>534413433>my original point was about ecologygo make a thread about it
>>534411393Science didn't say that...
>>534413056ozone layernext retarded question
>>534411516>He does have a good point.
>>534413095>>534412438why are you talking to me as if I did not preface my post with >you should know that the argument goes way further than CO2 in the atmosphere
>>534413813I love how we completely stopped hearing about the ozone layer as soon as it was discovered that the chapman cycle applies, the hole comes and goes naturally whether we do anything about it or not
>>534413813The main climate crisis the world is going to be facing is ecological collapse from improper water usage. Something as simple as third worlders sucking too much water out of the ground is going to kill them all, vs some ridiculous butterfly effect lighting bolt
>>534413633How will taxing corporations and/or billionaires and giving those funds to the criminal scumbags who masquerade as government change the climate?
>>534413856>i-its not just co2this is a common refrain to try and just move the conversation on from co2 and treat it as an already accepted fact so let's talk about these other areas that might akshually have some scientific basis to themits just a poor tactic to bolster the co2 argument and make you feel like you have some footing in reality in the argument
>>534413926That's how government scumbags make money, profess to have a solution and get paid and tell people you solved it with a really big microphone
>>534413926not everyone is such a defeatist. and it's always right-wing governments who fight to reduce any nature protection and checks.
>>534413980I don't think that's a good idea. Government scumbags are the biggest problem we face. Also, have you noticed how all these "climate change" discussions never talk about all the obvious environmental damage caused by the wars that are directly caused by government scumbags and their employees? If co2 is so bad, why don't they outlaw war?
>>534414165I'm not a defeatist. But I am also not a statist. Statism is the most dangerous and violent religion. Statism is a form of Stockholm syndrome for most believers. You should seek help.
>>534414179>climate change propaganda stops making sense when you actually start applying socialist social engineering principles to save the planetyou mean modern socialists are complete posers captured by industrialist institutions as controlled opposition that only care about making money and not offering solutions?
>>534414320Not necessarily but sure. Something like that.Maybe its just that most people are incredibly stupid and dishonest?
>>534414442Nah there's definitely some sort of intra-governmental globalist conspiracy to push climate change to artificially alter shipping flows into countries
>>534414525Care to elaborate?
>>534410958Personally I question the climate change narrative, not the reality of global climate change. I believe that historically, the earth's climate has gone through various cycles of extreme heat and cold, and I'm not denying that's happening. But to blame humans on the entirety of a natural cycle, then to profit off of it seems shady. I remember as a kid being told that oceans would rise and completely envelope new York city by 2000. Then it was 2010. Then 2020. Now it's 2050. If you keep pushing back your prophecy, people stop believing it.
Plymouth rock is still above water. Explai that nigger.
>>534410958It's the premise that taxing me will make the climate stable. The climate has never been stable and taxes cannot stabilise it.Technically we're in an ice age and half the land on earth can't support plant growth due to low CO2 levels. The solution to this problem is more fossil fuels. I just don't care about doomsayer chicken littles.
>>534412940Ultimidwit
>>534414697Geopolitics. Most foreign policy isn't actually what governments say it is it's a long running operation against other states. When a suit sociopath in the government looks at something like climate change they're not wondering how to solve the issue, they're wondering how they can use this against their enemies. At that point how can you tell if a government isn't just paying scientists to say whatever they want? This is the same government that doesn't actually want people to know all their clothes are made out of valueless oil byproducts
>>534410958Our planet is something more complex than "muh co2"
>>534410958Money, anon. Money.We saw it happen in real time: go back and actually look at old american presidential debates and media and shit from pre-2010. The Republicans agreed with the Democrats that Global Warming was real, they just contested whether or not it was man made or how much/what we should do about it. In 2010, Citizens United happened. It was now legal to funnel functionally unlimited money into campaign finances with no accountability or oversight, because corporations are people and money is speech. The very next year, by sheer coincidence and for no reason at all, virtually every running Republican simultaneously reversed their position on global warming, contradicting their own earlier positions on the matter and claiming that global warming was completely fake, the science wasn't in yet, the democrats were lying, antarctic ice can't melt, etc. As soon as it became legal for oil companies to buy politicians, the the american right switched over to denying climate change exists. In retrospect its actually jarring how quickly and universally it happened, it obviously wasn't an organic evolution of opinion.
>>534414707https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQSBn50o_8M
>>534414898So called governments do evil things because the people who become government employees are deeply evil people. Fortunately, (or not?), most of them are also incredibly stupid. Interesting times, friend.
>>534410958>Why does (straw man niggerdom post)Kill yourself. Anybody with a brain understands the climate changes but that human influence and cow farts has a negligible effect on it excluding weather weapons such as cloud seeding and project HAARP.
>>534410958Getting scammed because youre retarded.
>>534414707just pasting AI response to that>No, credible climate scientists did not predict that New York City would be completely flooded or underwater by 2020. While scientists have warned for decades about rising sea levels increasing flood risks, claims that specific, major infrastructure like the West Side Highway would be submerged by the 2000s or 2020s are inaccurate interpretations or exaggerations of scientific projections. >Key Facts on NYC Climate Predictions:> Projections: Sea levels have risen by about 22 cm (> ) since 1950, with flooding becoming more common, but the city was not predicted to be submerged by 2020.> Long-Term Risks: Severe flooding is projected for the future—by the 2050s, 37% of lower Manhattan is expected to be exposed to storm surges.> Sea Level Rise: Under intermediate scenarios, sea levels are expected to rise an additional 11 inches between 2020 and 2050.> Misinterpretations: A famous 1988 statement by Dr. James Hansen regarding the West Side Highway was a hypothetical look at future warming scenarios, not a prediction of submersion by a specific date, often misunderstood as a 20-year prediction. >While climate change makes storm surges and sunny-day flooding more frequent, the catastrophic inundation of NYC by 2020 was not a scientific consensus predictionI want to say I know almost nothing about climate change and CO2 effects so I'm undecided on the veracity of it. However in the past few years I've been more familiar with post truth and the flood of information, also I've learned about the tobbaco industry disinformation, so at the very least it wouldn't be unprecendeted that the climate change skepticism is in fact manufactured. It certainly benefits corporations.
>>534415608you triplenigger trannythat was right about the time climategate happened and everyone got to read Schmidt & Mann going nuts worrying that the warming trend had completely disappeared and they needed to come up with a trick to hide itwhen only including some of the sun's inputs via a halfass TSI wasnt enoughwhen blackboxing the measurements and altering them wasnt enoughthen came Temperature Anomaly to save the day for the griftersnow they get to set a baseline and show deviations and dont give real temps any longerthis was Mike's trick to hide the decline in the warming trendFOIA's a bitch
>>534415779Nah if you go into the government thinking you're some goodie two shoes social engineer that's going to save the world you'll probably end up dead kind of a thing because there's some 200 year old plan that the establishment is sunk-cost into even though it looks like it's about to explode and kill everyone in the room if you tried to turn it off they'd tear you apart at least that was always my theory
>>534415971>Sea levels have risen by about 22 cmpress X to doubtthe oceans have no risen 6+ inches in the last 70 yearsenough pictures prove this
>>534410958The west throwing money at the issue domestically won't help with the pollution output from Africa, India/SEA, and Latin America.
>>534415971It's not co2, friend. The sun is (mostly) responsible for the temperature of the Earth. Hotter sun = Hotter Earth. Simple as.
>>534410958Why do the conservatives hate conserving nature? It's just a brand name anon it's completely meaningless. The same reason Democrats literally hate democracy
>>534416035So... You're saying that if a non-evil person became a "government" employee the other "government" employees, who are actually very evil, would kill that person? (I can believe that.)
>>534416142democrats hate democracy because they're illegal immigrant socialists that we're not allowed to call out because the US government allowed trotskyist jews to illegally come to the US and organize a revolution against russia>>534416200Yes the government would probably kill anybody that actually proposed real solutions if it went against the grand plan
>>534411537Ohh that's bullshit because the plastic being littered never breaks down. The problem is overpopulation. Every major problem dissolves with less people. You niggers are clear cutting the rainforest. You get genocided first round with the chinks and pops monkey boy.
>>534416142I don't believe in democracy.
>>534416236>The problem is overpopulation.This. x1000Population collapse is our only hope.
>>534416235Correct... Wait until you find out Jews ruined the conservatives as well. Nations without philia cannot work together. Almost like its all on purpose
>>534416310The government ruined conservatism because it allowed them to shoot money at poor people to distract them long enough to have geopolitical wars over resources
>>534416142Real solutions like nuke India and Africa vs fake virtue signalling niggerdom with electric cars or capturing cow farts in bags
>>534416253Good you aren't fucking retarded. Every single person in the world thinks more than half the people they meet are fucking subhuman morons... But ya no they should decide your future because that's fair! Even if they can't point out where they live on a map
>>534416235I don't know if there is a "grand plan" but I agree with you that government employees are evil scumbags who would kill anyone who they deemed a threat to their agenda.
>>534410958I don't deny it but you can't give environmentalists an inchI'm all for conservation but not at the cost of humans for retarded shit. Company my dad used to work for made fertilizer. Safe shit not the train accident catastrophe shit. They help feed the world.>trying to expand plants cuz sector needed it in the aughts >find perfect spot to make it>location is where not yet endangered but protected type of DUNG BEETLE lives>would costs hundreds of thousands to millions more to cover the various options to navigate the environmental rules covering beetlesThey built somewhere else
>>534410958Atleast in the USA, bascially nobody except flat earth schizos deny climate change. Conservatives often deny that humans have a role (or significant role) in climate change, since earth has been both warmer and colder in the past.The reason for this is because liberals use climate change as an excuse to manipulate the economy, while denying humans can cause climate change removes that justification.
>>534416413>i don't know if the intelligence agencies have an endgame oh they've had one for a very long time i reckon
>>534416236I mean, those are compounding problems but they aren't inherently causal. We could not shit up the planet and we could not make more people who shit up the planet. Neither problem is likely to be fixed within our lifetime, however.
>>534416103weaker magnetic field of earth,more sun gets inno increase in solar output required
>>534416373Show me a single conservative party offering real solutions as part of their platform in 2026... You can use any country as an example. I'll wait
>>534410958Jews tell them that coal burning is good. So conservatives are all coal burners. Their women especially.
>>534416236>plastic never breaks downnever is a pretty long time desu>The problem is overpopulation>the globalists told me to care about this>meanwhile Epstein & Bill Gates discuss how can we get rid of poor people as a whole
>>534416403Most Americans can't find America on a map because most Americans don't have maps, dummy. And yes. Most people are subhuman morons. Just because most of them are much more intelligent than you doesn't mean they are not incredibly stupid. (And I never said anything about anyone deciding anything, let alone the future.)
>>534416448Well putpaper straws. No plastic bags. Recycle.As is yours or mine a hundred fold compare to the smallest mom and pop manufacturing shop much less a corporation
>>534410958Because they are stupid.
>>534416604As if*
>>534416481>How do magnets work?>Nobody knows...We're going to need a bigger magnet.
>>534416482>Show me a single conservative party offering real solutions as part of their platform in 2026.real solutions to what?a fake co2 disaster that is unscientific and cannot possibly happen?there's better things to worry about than fake problems that dont exist
>>534416508kek
>>534416473All problems only become such when they reach scale. Small problems can be dealt with by groups of willing individuals locally. Globalization outsourced every countries problems to the rest of the world. I didn't care India was a disgusting shit filled hole in the ground until they started escaping and bringing their shit tier lifestyle with them... And again with lower populations the problems go away
>>534410958They don't deny "climate change" as such. I am sure there are some idiots that deny that part too but no one takes them seriously. What they actually deny is anthropomorphic climate change. A lot of the science behind this is crony science akin to epidemiological studies in nutrition - vague correlations made with no causative link.
>>534416654Anything. Show me a conservative party working to better the people of a country and not themselves
>>534416433Oh yeah and since the other spot wasn't as centrally located it no doubt used at minimum x5 more fossil fuels to transport all their product to and from the further location. Good move EPA.
>>534416654What if someone told you that the best solutions to climate change were energy independence (with lots of nuclear) and national industrial policy? Would that make you less suspicious?
>>534416588I was agreeing with you you fucking retard
>>534416710
>>534416874Anon he said studies in nutrition... I don't think he's going to understand that graph
>>534411201Wooden doors
>>534410958Here only far right lolbergs or muttbrain terminally online retards deny climate change. Both rare categories. Conservatives don't deny it.
>>534411008I can’t wait for the Ukrainian drones to murder you. Global warming is fake and gay. CO2 emissions have nothing to do with it. The planet has cycles. The atmosphere rotates just like the planet. We have currents in the oceans and sky. These carry hot and cold air. It’s colder in Kentucky than Poland right now.
>>534416692Of course population makes every challenge more difficult to solve, but a mass genocide of billions is highly unlikely... Ecological sovereignty is the inherent right of a nation or community to govern, manage, and protect its own natural resources, ecosystems, and environment. It emphasizes local, autonomous decision-making over land, water, and air.... I would argue that this includes a right to determine local populations, and so the right to close your borders. It seems like something worth advocating for.
>>534410958We’ve never had a stable climate
>>534416962kek
>>534410958Because you kept saying the world will end at date XY and ut did not. Boy who cried wolf will not be belived when the wolf actually shows up.>>534411008And you over stated covid 10x.
>>534417072Yes Canada's biggest problem is planning to triple the population. No other metric matters. Especially when they have no plan for how this would transform the country. It's demographic suicide and an economic collapse of the middle class which we are already seeing the effects of now and it's barely begun.
>>534417239show me a single scientific paper giving a hard date for when the world is going to end from climate change. the media is going to do what the media does
>>534410958you can give them the facts all day but they won't care and just claim it's "hysteria" yet they'll believe an all-knowing sky daddy created everything from nothing like it is common knowledge. who cares at this point. let them rot and live in ignorance.
>>534417320I agree with you I would like to see some green nationalist party. Frame these problems in terms of our local ecology and close the fucking borders. I was driving through farmland yesterday getting bulldozed for new houses for immigrants. it's sickening to watch, and it's happening under a conservative government here in Ontario that mostly cares about developers pocketbooks rather than conserving anything.
>>534411013>nice ecosystem happening>humans come along>print probably 2 billion diesel/petrol/coal vehicles pumping out heat and gasses for nearly a century>god knows how many general powered coal plants for god knows how long>yea guys this totally doesn't affect anythingyou have to be a brainlet to believe doing all this won't change something.
>>534416742>let's get away from this co2 topic where I have no solid ground on which to stand
>>534417413Completely agree
>Acid Rain>Rising Tides>Ozone Layer>C02 Emissions>Climate Change>Farting CowsWhich one are we on now? Its all so tiresome...
If a liberal believes something it is american conservative instinct to believe the opposite, this extends to all things>The war in Iran is bad? WELL I THINK ITS GOOD CHECKMATE LIBTARD!
>>534416796>let's talk about the solutions insteadno sorry, I'm not accepting the co2 premiseit is unscientific and retardedyou have no solutions for the real causeyou're not changing the sunyou're not changing the earth's magnetic fieldso you can shut the fuck up about it
>>534417322hey, youre doing that thing that leftists do where they deliberately misunderstand another person so that discussion becomes impossible!
>>534410958I don'tclimate always changesand while idk how much of it is human caused, we probably should be careful about how much co2 we pump out into the atmosphere. but all of that doesn't matter when our emissions are a fraction of what china and india put out.although I think chinks lately get conscious about it
>>534411033>le scienceYou mean the stuff you stopped giving a damn about the nanosecond it was t8me to glorify niggers? That science?
>>534410958Because big oil/corporate America denies climate change, and conservatives are bootlickers./thread
>>534417489>he thinks liberals are against the war in iranyou sweeet bluepilled little goy golem
>>534416562Sneed
>>534417507So you're not accepting the CO2 is a greenhouse gas? Or you're not accepting that the changes in CO2 we've seen are enough to do anything?>>534417514a prediction in a scientific paper is something very different than some idiot saying something in the media. the two are not the same. so is it you who is deliberately misunderstanding?
>>534410958Why are you crying to me about climate change when it is China and India causing the most pollution? Fuck off
>>534417770Anon he's retarded or trolling just ignore him
>>534417322>we totally didn't do the thing we were doing for decadesDon't care how you try to twist it, you don't have any credibility left and I'm not trying to convince you since A, you aren't arguing in good faith and B, you don't care about truth.
>>534417770it's called a greenhouse gas because it's pumped into greenhouses to make plants grow fasterdumb commie
>>534417540Tots, you lying about it all the time has nothing to do with it. Threads still goint.
>>534410958There is no, nor will there ever be, any sort of existential threat to the planet via climate changes.Screencap this, put it in a time capsule, and watch as your children and grandchildren mock your stupid ideas of natural world-ending events. Nigger.
>>534411537CO2 levels follow warming not precede it commie.
>>534417770you dont seem to understand how co2 worksit has a heat capacity, once its saturated, guess what happensit stops being able to absorb more heatreminder that "greenhouse" is not a term that applies well to the earth's climatethere's no glass ceiling up there, so no I'm not going to participate in misnomer usage with you
>>534417880>Two more weeks, chud. Nana is going spontaneously combust one day due to your inaction
>>534417909Lol ackchually, there is a glass ceiling up there. The point is CO2 doesn't affect temperature.
>>534417823They are so transparent. Especially how their solutions to climate change SOMEHOW always end up being more authoritarianism, more restrictions on normal people and squeezing the middle and working classes in general.They are transparently using the issue to push their agenda/ideology.
>>534411008>I support what my current politician currently says 100% of the time>NO. EXCEPTION.kek. Dude it's not like we deny physics or the stock market or drive in the right side of the road.If anything retards become a contrarian when in supporting the current thing they deny simple biology or even math.Climate change is weaponized. When they talk about MORE tax to Europe to "save the environment" when China is producing 250 new coal burning factories, and the people vouching for the tax fly in private jets and want to redirect production to China, then you know they are lying about something.
>>534418124100%
>>534418177If they climate faggots were actually about the climate and not just attacking white people, they'd call for cracking down on China and India.All the paper straw bullshit is absolutely meaningless when billions do vidrel.
>>534410958>Why do conservatives deny climate change?I'll give a fuck about the climate when your solution ceases to be "Tax white men more."
>>534410958Liberals started off like the three bears. First the porridge was to hot. Then that didn't work they changed it to it was to cold. To them it'll never be just right so they change it to climate change. That way they got the whole farce covered.
>>534418124This is because conservatives have completely ceded the territory by not putting forward any solutions at all. even the oil companies internal documents show that they accept the science of climate change. >https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2023/01/harvard-led-analysis-finds-exxonmobil-internal-research-accurately-predicted-climate-change/
>>534418438Refer to >>534418366
More than denying, most of the conservatives will either say:1) The impact is negligent. Solar flares or volcanos have far more impact on climate humans ever will.2) The political solution is economic suicide and entirely pointless if all we do is externalize our impact by giving money to China or India instead of producing it ourselves and then use giant ships to bring the items over here.3) Even if there was impact, it's almost unfalsifiable, and the solutions are, too. It's a money pit where nothing is ever "fixed". There are no serious proposals, no plans, just "we have to do something".4) The models used for the "science" are all faulty.
>>534416710The silent majority knows we're dealing with a lot of missing information. We just don't know the full model of how climate changes, whether it's naturally or human made.Basically what happens is mid-wits see a graph and they get hit hard by Dunning Kruger effect. "Of course! I just saw a GRAPH... and look at it going UP. There are numbers that I've never seen before but... somehow, it all makes sense and it just clicks" Dunning Kruger is truly mid-wit's bane.You can make a retard believe anything if you show him any random graph.
>>534418438>even the oil companies internal documents show that they accept the science of climate change.you mean to tell us that the corpos that make all of their money by promoting artificial scarcity would never want to have their product taxed to the moon to the point of limiting and rationing it for everyone while they are allowed to double or triple the price the moment any event happens that could in theory bend their profits down in the slightest?this is just another form of the appeal to authority logical fallacy you are presenting to us here
>>534416588>most Americans don't have maps, dummyThey do but white southerners aren't american and they hate the US and rightfully so since you are nigger lovers, I also hate you
>>534418586>a volcano cant easily eclipse the entirety of human's co2 output for the entire year in a couple of hoursshut up, jew>there's nothing wrong with shutting down industryof course not, not when you're a globalist that wants all the plebes dead>even if there was an impact,you spelled unmeasurable wrong>The models used for the "science" are all faulty.this is akshually correctthe GCMs ARE all faulty and if you dont know this then you are a retardthese models only loosely resemble reality and constantly need to be readjusted lest they break entirely and predict the earth will expodebut you're so dumb you dont realize those dire predictions are just a bad model breaking and its showing with its output that does not correspond to realityreminder that TSI is not even total and aside from that, they dont even consider the waning of the earth's magnetic fieldreminder also that with IPCC V6 they attempted to include those cosmic rays that could no longer be ignored and it broke their models even woarse
>>534410958It's a shame all the elephants died back in the 90s. That's what the science said was going to happen. The Amazon hasn't had a tree growing there since 2010. Horrible, just horrible.
>>534418586But in a more PRACTICAL sense....What do they expect us to do? We already tried paying more taxes... now what? Oh, more taxes? again? Meanwhile politicians keep flying private jets on a personal level, but at a macro level they are also hypocrites because they won't mention China even ONCE.Anyone who talks about "le environment" and doesn't mention China or India's terrible situation, not even once? How can anyone be so stupid to not know they are lying to you?Do you know how I know Libretards don't give a FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK about the environment? Because they complained about Trump's tariffs. They complain about gas prices because of Orange Man bad.Trump's tarriffs are by far the biggest contributor to save the environment because it moves production AWAY from China into USA. And USA has a shit-ton more environmental regulations than China.Fucking demonrats are a walking mental illness, mythomaniacs. Reality is barely a suggestion to these people. Biology, math, even common sense means nothing to them. Feminists and LGTB supporting Islam; abortion + euthanasia; they are a suicide cult, they don't care about the environment
>>534410958being a conservative means constantly having to prove your loyalty. typically through humiliation rituals like pretending like climate change isn't real and bootlicking for financially-invested corpos like big oil
>>534419156kek
>>534418671You feel that any argument from scientific evidence is an appeal to authority because you aren't observing the science yourself. but the people doing these studies really believe the results that they're finding, and the ability to make accurate predictions (such as those in the article I shared) should suggest that the people making the predictions understand something of the mechanisms involved. It's called predictive power. We believe astronomers in part because they can predict the timing and location of solar ecplises. I've yet to come across anyone offering a counter hypothesis to explain the warming that can make any kind of predictions over what will happen in the next several years with the climate, let alone the next decade or two.
Conservatives do not really have real opinions. They are just against change. It is a position informed by fear of the future, fear of change, fear of the unknown.
>>534419222replication crisis
>>534418586If you were genuine about the issue, you'd advocate for sanctioning China and India.But you aren't.
God will not forgive mankind for what we have done. We were to be the caretakers of His creation. The destruction we wrought is fuckin unreal. Repent you rabbi kike nigger faggots before it's too late. Protip tho it was too late from the start.
>>534410958That's because you've never heard a coherent argument against civilizational suicide. What you've been allowed to hear are weak denials.
>>534418438how can you not tell this is a grifter, leaf?
>>534417770>a prediction in a scientific paper is something very different than some idiot saying something in the mediais there a source that can confirm this claim? no? then the claim can be discarded.
>>534419021>What do they expect us to do?
>>534410958I deny that there will be any attempt to stop it or slow it. Its just a religion for women to convince them to accept more expensive energy.I actually support the conservation of fossils fuels. We need them so we shouldn't use them wastefully.
>>534419628It's not a scientific hypotehsis that I'm making, I'm simply describing a difference in practice.>>534419376has done a lot of damage to science, I agree. There are climate scientists regularly making predictions. There's a prediction out from Dr. James Hansen that this year will be the hottest year on record. We can check these predictions after the fact. No one who is putting forward a counter hypothesis "the sun is causing the warming" for example, is making these kinds of predictions, because they have no solid explanatory models for what's happening.
>>534419222>you aren't observing the science yourself. if you really looked at what these people are doing, you'd trust themlol, lmaodouble, triple, and quadruple lmao>the people doing these studies really believe the results that they're findingthey wouldnt be allowed into the zealot camp if it were otherwise>the ability to make accurate predictionsthey dont make accurate predictionshaving a datapoint here or there hit from an old model that was already discarded for having proven gaps in it does not equate to muh predictive power>see, we can predict eclipses so this means our climate models are rightdoes not even logically follow>I've yet to come across anyone offering a counter hypothesis to explain the warming that can make any kind of predictions over what will happen in the next several years with the climate, let alone the next decade or two.that's because the captured mainstream shouts down anything that doesnt agree with the propagated meme of co2ismsthe T in TSI is not total, so you make a hole by this methodthe earth's magnetic field isnt even considered in the paradigm, making its waning impossible to correlate from the things dreamt of in globohomo co2ist philosophiesyou will just argue that TSI has not appreciably changed therefore the sun isnt stronger therefore we may jump straight to its humanswhich is stupid and anyone who akshually understands the physics of the situation is going to laugh your bullshit right out of the room
>>534419222You don't even understand the "evidence". Your room temperature IQ doesn't even know how CO2 works in the atmosphere. No one does fully understand it, it is dozens if not hundreds of factors interplaying and it's truly hard to predict how it'll play out. As far as you know we are on the verge of a new naturally occurring Ice Age, and CO2 is might be delaying it or mitigating. You have no idea, you will just "agree" with whatever they tell you helplessly because the truth is you don't know. No one knows with 100% certainty and this is empirical because they've been consistently wrong about a ton of things. But more importantly... what am I supposed to do with your STUPID pretense???Libretards are the ones who complain about gas prices >>534408628 because you perceive it's related to Trump. So now you can't bear not burning fossil fuel? You are STUPID.
>>534417035>Russian gets told Global Warming is fakeits so fucking hilarious>It’s colder in Kentucky than Poland right now.you truely are a certified genius
>>534419827>There's a prediction out from Dr. James Hansen that this year will be the hottest year on recordJames Hansen is a fucking zealot cheerleader and not a scientisthe tried convincing me 25 years ago that his calculations proved beyond a doubt that man's influences had overtaken the sun's as the primary driver of the climateif you cant understand how absolutely retarded that is then you have no place in this discussion
>>534419827would it surprise you to find out that the vast majority of predictions being made by climate scientists turned out to be wrong?
>>534410958Same reason they deny the existence of the tooth fairy. Because its made up.
>>534420078He's out there making predictions regularly and nailing them. If you were seeing what he is seeing you would be zealous too, because you would care for your grandchildren that we're heading towards mass chaos from climate change
>>534411118>Because the proposed solutions are politically inconvenient for themThese "solutions" are always just "give X group (of our friends) Y millions of taxpayer dollars and ignore what goes on in China/India/etc while sending more factories over there".Also, it's now "Climate Justice" which means moving as much disposable slaves from warm climes into cooler (and white) nations where they will need new houses built and heated 6 months out of the year. Odd how the carbon footprint of that is never even discussed. TLDR: its jews fooling retarded whites into giving them more money and importing their replacements
>>534420313most of the models have underestimated the recent acceleration in warming due to discounting the aerosol masking effect.
Anons which unpozzed AI could give me a comprehensive and complete fact sheet to destroy the hardcore greens?We all know its a jewish hoax to generate shekels, but every AI i used in this regard is gay and jewish.
>>534418365Exactly, and I'm pretty sure we're being tolled hard right now. There's no way they are so stupid.What gets me is that retards like this >>534411008 saying disagreeing 1 or 2 stupid things is being a contrarian. And these retards are a contrarian with Trump. When Trump was pushing the vaccine they were ready to not take it. These people are dangerously stupid. World had to go into economic lockdown for years because of how stupid they are. This is world-ending level of stupidity.They are so contrarian they hate Trump's tariffs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This RETARDS love taxes, they're stupid about how much they love to get taxed. But tariffs? They are bad because of Trump. But tariffs is one thing they should support if they believe in their climate change hoax. What you want to do ASAP is move production from China into USA, because USA has more environmental regulations than China.These Yahweh damned goycattle retards will save support China and their 350 new coal factories every year... if it saves them 15% on their new smartphone. They will support China's coal powered production line if they can get a cheaper car this year. They will even support child slavery in Africa if it saves them 5% on some vapes or whatever. They should be sucking Trump's dick for the tariffs. It's everything they always wanted.
>>534410958>Why do conservatives deny climate change?Not doomping waste is hurtful to the Industrialists. Not packaging everything in a shit-ton of plastic is inconvenient for the Sellers. Redressing environmental destruction will be so expensive even billionaires might be asked to kick in a few bucks.No Right-thinking Anon would ever wish harm on Corporate. They will only sorta believe in it if it makes their own property (the few that have any) uninhabitable/ruined.
>>534420649Tariffs mean the following:OUR supply chains are fucked, we lack the technology to be efficient, we are overregulating and taxing so much it's cheaper to pay for shipment from China than produce locally. So the solution is to NOT fix our problem, instead we'll block imports, so then the consumer is STUCK with our inefficiency indefinitely.Import tariffs are always a bad idea. But it is insane that the only reason libshits agree is that they have TDS... it's truly a broken clock being right twice a day situation.
>>534420649>But tariffs? They are bad because of Trump.I hate tariffs because it's a tax that's going directly to Industrialists. I pay my taxes to the gobermint, now I'm paying them directly in refunds to Jeff Bezos, who upcharged me so it didn't hurt him in the first place.Or are you saying my rebate check is in the mail? Should I go check?I don't hate taxes. but I do wonder why Jeff and Elon pay less than 1%.
>>534420414>I'm that bad at this that I cant even detect where and why Hansen is a fraud and not even a scientist, but a cheerleader trying to contort himself to prove a nonphysical assertion>but hey at least he's doing somethingwhat a pathetic standpoint
>>534420483>most of the models are all over the place and when they accidentally hit a datapoint we cheer them and when they fail we look the other way and act like that's not what happens the vast majority of the time
>>534410958Jesus said it's ok to burn down forest to grow basedbeans o algo and if you don't use land you are a sinner and a communist o algo
>>534420649>There's no way they are so stupidIts not stupidity, its all-encompassing dishonesty. Leftoids don't belive in objective, consistent truth.
>>534420780this fag makes it like the left doesnt do what the corporations want
>>534420856>undoing a globohomo perversion theft mechanism is uncomfortable, so we should leave it in place
>>534420856I am so tired of hearing about Trump Devotion Syndrome.And it's fine to despise someone who's crass, criminal, and only spends serious effort enriching and glorifying himself.I despise Trump the actual "leader", he's an incompetent, lying, self-absorbed scumbag.You only like the character he plays on teevee and TruthSocial.
>>534421169>plebbit here to fill you in on how the globalists wish you to think of Trump
>>534411111
>>534421111All I know is that when the Dems get elected, corporations get his with more regulations, consumer protections, and even taxes.And when your heckin' Conservative heroes get elected, it's time to remove regulations, reverse consumer protections, and borrow to give them tax exemptions.Make of that what you will, False Equivalency Anon.
>>534421065how do you feel basing your entire political compass on imported nigger outrage?
>>534421252>how the globalists wish you to think of TrumpYou incredibly gullible nigger, the world's top globalists were front row to congratulate Trump at his second inauguration, to the point that actual politicians and the like couldn't fit into the room.Truly sad and brainwashed.
>>534421306>all I know is that I believe the globalists, however they want to frame this or that>make of that what you willindeed
>>534421413>t-trump's in with the globalistsyeah it makes so much sense for all the globohomo agents to have shot themselves in both feet and legs trying to nail him for shit he didnt do and there's 0 evidence fornow nevermind Trump saying a couple weeks ago that the world's financial system is outdated and unsustainablesurely this has nothing to do with anythingfucking go back to sleep, plebbitnigger
>>534418177>India is polluting its rivers>so we must as well cause who caresI sincerely fail to understand this line of hinking. If some people in Africa burn tires to heat their huts, it does not mean that people in Switzerland should as well. This is just contrarianism, nothing more. You have no control over the world or your life, so you are resorting to conspiracy theories to receive a glimpse of illusion of self-worth and control over your life. "I am not like the sheep, I know the truth. I am special". No, you aren't, you are just like the flat earthers that think their rediculous ideas mean they are enlightened. Same with the vaccines and COVID, you spent years fighting against them just because someone in power said its good for the world.
>>534421328I'm doing it first an foremost based on what my parents told me about communists/communism here.You can stop projecting now.
>>534411054You dummy. I'm older than you. First it was global cooling it was going to be a little ice age, then that didn't happen so it became global warming, but that turned out to be fake and gay, so then it became climate "change." LolWhy are you afraid of change? I thought liberals and progressive love change? Also how can you guys be so sure you figured out the weather when you can't even predict what it would be like tomorrow where I live?
>>534421503A wall of greentext blather doesn't refute the actual facts of the matter.THE ONLY legislation Congress has passed in two terms of Trump is Corporate tax gibs.>>534421594>Muh GlobohomoYou are going to go to your grave believing that Trump is some rebel against the Billionaire Shareholding Classes, which is sad and hilarious. I bet you believe he's out to "git the Jew" too.You are embarrassing.
>>534421623>its co2isms>but I will give an analogy that has nothing to do with that and then posit an equivalence between themreminder that co2 has no capacity to drive the climatezerononepurely temperature response as proven from algore's data zoomed in close enough to see that hey, temp changes and then co2 concentration changes after itbut of course they showed you something zoomed so far out that the lines looked identical, and retards believed the assertion
>>534421623>we care about X issue>except the primary contributors, we'll ignore thoseYou're like the UK police going after weebs while letting rape gangs run free.
>>534421743>that means nothing at all that Trump said the world's financial system is outdated and unsustainable>the banks wouldnt ever try to kill anyone that made a move to stop their counterfeiting operations>you make it like they had blackmail networks or somethingreminder that the federal reserve executives and the rothschilds are all over the epstein files and this is why its being slow rolledbecause the federal reserve note does not survive this battle
>>534421623>least retarded Ivan
>>534420649>These people are dangerously stupid. World had to go into economic lockdown for years because of how stupid they are.Yes, the situation is far more serious than I ever suspected. In a homogenous nation of an average IQ of 100, over half the people are essentially innumerate, or charitably interpreted unwilling to sit their ass down at a computer and look at a very simple graph. It is unfortunate how this has become left/right coded as I don't really have a problem with public healthcare for instance.This must ultimately be resolved by violence, there is sadly no way around it.
>>534421863>Trump isn't corrupt! Jew bankers have a gun to his head!This is some serious late-stage coping, you serial rube.Trump is behaving EXACTLY has Trump has behaved his entire adult life. It's been one swindle after another since his ego left his parent's mansion.He only plays a White Christian ethnostatist on television. (and not very convincingly, he's just too in love with himself).So now you have to cook up whackadoodle conspiracies.
>>534421951>I don't really have a problem with public healthcare for instance>there's just that whole matter of it not being a power the federal government in the USA has>but I'm ok with the federal government assuming undelegated powers without a proper amendment process, cuz I'm a faggotthere's a reason they didnt even try the constitutional method with obamacare and it was never within constitutional bounds, especially when SCOTUS said its a tax when Congress wrote it and sold it as absolutely-not-a-tax and forgot about that whole matter of SCOTUS not having the power to do this and Congress should have voted on a re-wording, except they knew that wasnt passing, so we just skipped those parts of the lawful constitutional process
>>534422101>So now you have to cook up whackadoodle conspiracies.look at this retard try to make it like the banks arent counterfeiting houses and havent been busted with blackmail networksreminder that the average mom & pop are gonna be real mad when they understand that Epstein worked with the Rothschilds and Federal Reserve executives to cause the 2008 financial disaster
>>534422170I'm not american and I think a public healthcare system is, in our case, the most efficient and cost effective way of managing the various illnesses that may arise. Now that is immaterial to the subject at hand, which is the veracity of the theory of anthropogenic carbon dioxide driven climate change, which I think is false.
>>534410958>Is the sun getting hotter?Yes we have decades of data supporting it>is it because of my car?If anything China and India are polluting the air >will making everyone ride the bus change anything?It will still get hotter
>>534422365you can be forgiven for being a foreigner and not understanding that it is an unlawfully assumed federal power that was never enumerated and under normal circumstances would have required a full amendment processat least you're not a tard and think co2 does stuff it doesnt akshually do
