>>14974603
>I AM NOAH

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Reminder not only is OP permabanned for impersonating a mod, we was also exposed by the mods as being a pajeet and spamming AI CP on /b/

>>14974650
>we was also exposed by the mods as being a pajeet and spamming AI CP on /b/
what. When? I was in that thread and I don't remember that.

I can't believe Nakajima is going to spend the rest of his career in GLEAT and other indies.

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Uncle Howdy killed /puro/

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card for Limit Break tomorrow (7pm JST / 6am EST)

○Go Shiozaki 20th Anniversary Match - DEPARTURE 2024 -
Go Shiozaki & Jun Akiyama(DDT Pro-Wrestling) vs Naomichi Marufuji & Takashi Sugiura

○World Heavyweight Championship Match
Akitoshi Saito vs Chris Weiss (ZERO1)

○Single Match ~ Beast vs HARIMAO ~
Kazuyuki Fujita vs Kazusada Higuchi(DDT Pro-Wrestling)

○6-man tag match, 20 minutes, 1 match
Atsushi Kotoge & Black Mensore & Yuto Kikuchi (Dotonbori Pro Wrestling) vs Tetsuya Endo(DDT Pro Wrestling) & Yuki Iino(DDT Pro Wrestling) & Yuya Koroku(DDT Pro Wrestling)

○Single match 20 minutes
Mohamedo Yone vs Ishikawa Shuji

○6-man tag match, 20 minutes, 1 match
Hi69 & Yoshi Tatsu & Haruto Ki (Dotonbori Pro Wrestling) vs Masato Tanaka(ZERO1) & Takuya Sugawara (ZERO1) & Hayato Nagao (ZERO1)

○Single match 20 minutes
Yu Owada vs MAZADA

>>14974750
NJPW is gone too kek

>>14974785
Higuchi vs. Fujita sounds amazing.

>>14974785
>○Single Match ~ Beast vs HARIMAO ~
>Kazuyuki Fujita vs Kazusada Higuchi(DDT Pro-Wrestling)
based

I wonder if Higuchi will ever leave DDT. He would be pushed super hard in any company he went to I think.

>July 1st GLEAT, TDC Hall tournament first match is a 10-man tag match under Muay Thai rules, so vertical elbows, swinging elbows, knees from clinches are allowed, so knees to the internal organs, tripping, front kicks, crescent moons, calves are OK
https://x.com/ibushi_kota/status/1803082365251813575

>>14976575
doubt it
he actually enjoys the dumb shit DDT does

>>14976773
finna be another disaster
https://x.com/ibushi_kota/status/1802669752231584114

>>14977582
This dude is gonna Misawa himself

>>14977582
bless this retard

>>14976773
>10 man Muay Thai tag match
What in tarnation?

Watching Gabe Kidd and Kaito for the first time ever.

I think I like Kaito's wrestling but he's bad at working his offense as far as I can tell.

Is there anyone else in NOAH who is like him insofar as they are not boring wrestlers? Because my impression of NOAH is that it is boring.

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excuse me?

>>14978625
just the usual ddt meme match

>>14974785
lobby open
https://www.wrestle-universe.com/en/lives/swWcFUTSoFfBb49gqrtJXx

>>14978373
NOAH is terrible.

Bump

Saito Brothers with a fan
https://x.com/alljapan_pw/status/1803389530982260898

>>14979750
lel

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https://x.com/noahglobal/status/1803439210352816502

>>14980812
11 matches now. They’re going in hard for this show.

>>14980812
just fucked up the collage i made, i was wondering why Go wasn't on the card

>>14978373
who are your current favorite wrestlers/ promotions?

>>14980812
>man who killed misawa
vs
>man who saved misawa's company
pottery

>>14981087
>>man who saved misawa's company
I don't see muta in that match graphic

>>14980812
Cool. Thought it was weird Go wasn't on the show.

>>14981063
I'm increasingly jaded.

I value high workrate rooted in a wife variety of wrestling throws, but properly built up progressively through a match with sound psychology.

I disdain restholds, overreliance on brawling, overreliance on submissions, constant pinfall attempts, dead obvious choreography, lack of in-ring storytelling, common match openers, and fighting spirit spots in an average match

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who really could

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happy Junteenth
https://youtu.be/Xp-8BfC0FyE

>>14978373
Kaito has no fire. He can't go into next gear like you have to in Japanese wrestling.

The Saitos are pretty remarkable relative to their experience level same with Anzai. Reminds me of when Utami debuted. Never seen someone be that good out of the gate. Whatever they are doing in that All Japan dojo is working.

Hi /puro/ what's happening with Nakajima? I saw he popped up in Gleat. Has anything happened with that yet?

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Luis Mante & Flamita vs Dragon Bane & Alpha Wolf in Dragon Gate on 7.16

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>>14974603
Why is shootstyle so good bros? It's better than regular pro-wrestling and better than MMA. Even random matches the quality of the work is leagues above everything else. The algorithm popped out Kazushi Sakuraba vs. Yuko Miyato from UWFi in '94 and I was hooked from start to finish.
As an aside, black trunks with red kneepads/boots/kickpads is a great look that more people should use.

>>14983671
what's the shootiest current fed?

>>14978625
Believe it or not, Invisible Leonardo DiCaprio is a 3rd generation wrestler.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqeHlG4kTnw

>>14983878
Gleat probably but only sometimes

>>14983467
Nakajima thinks he's Akira Maeda and he's worked himself into a shoot. Probably instilled by his daddy. He'll be going to smaller and smaller promotions until he's forced to get a shoot job.

>>14982312
Nigga you blind

>>14983878
like >>14984066 says, it's probably GLEAT. But the quality is very low compared to the golden age of shootstyle. Compare a GLEAT UWF/UWFi rules match to an actual UWF/UWFi match and the latter is from a different planet.

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>>14984066
>>14984515
>the golden age of shootstyle
what do you guys think about Bloodsport? how does it compare from what you've seen?

>>14984792
I haven't watched much, but from what I've seen the pace is nowhere near as fast as old school shootstyle. This may be due to the lack of ropes making quick movements a little dangerous in case you fall off the mat.
What really stands out about oldschool stuff is just how fast and smooth it is. I don't know if it's to do with mediocre training or the real talent now going into MMA instead, but the shootstyle of today really pales in comparison when it comes to intensity and skill levels. The crowds were also hype af back then.

check out these matches:
>Tamura vs. Yamamoto, RINGS
https://youtu.be/wHOI-kEKvQA?feature=shared
>Sakuraba vs. Miyato
https://youtu.be/evRUeUb4MGA?feature=sharedv
>Takada vs. Super Vader
https://youtu.be/2utqQXKwqio?feature=shared

I doubt you'll find anything close nowadays, unfortunately.

>>14984900
>check out these matches
Thanks. I wanted to check out both the GLEAT and Bloodsport shows this weekend already so I'll watch some of this first to compare.

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>>14986231
looks like they're not livestreaming the GLEAT show actually
https://x.com/LIDET_ENT/status/1800674012277899570

>>14978373
My impression of Kaito is that he's one of the better wrestlers in Japan right now. He can mat wrestle, he's got a look, he's a great seller, my only problem with him is that his 2nd gear offense isn't great.

>>14983467
I saw on Twitter that people are expecting Nakajima vs Takanori Ito because Nak sat ringside for Ito's match or something, I guess the WWE/AEW claims for Nakajima were bullshit

Really enjoyed the main event of Shiozaki's anniversary show.

Kota Ibushi's 20th Anniversary will be a 5 minute exhibition match in GLEAT
https://x.com/ibushi_kota/status/1803661377795752307

>>14989544
the absolute state

>>14989544
so no Kaito match?

>>14984196
> Nakajima thinks he's Akira Maeda
Wasn’t he LARPing as Inoki? He changed his LARP to another legendary wrestler?

>>14989544
he's gonna pull a shibata and make it a full match at the last minute

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> First ever commercialization ‼‼
>A replica belt of the current GHC Heavyweight Championship, which contains the spirit of the fierce battles that have gone down in history and the past champions, will be made available for pre-order ‼

>This is a 1:1 replica belt made from a new mold based on the measurements of the current GHC Heavyweight belt.
>The long-awaited product that represents the pinnacle of NOAH!
https://x.com/noah_goodsteam/status/1803745862658748838

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>>14990949
theres no way this thing will sell much

>>14988846
Check out his first reign. He was a lot better at that time. It seems like the dark days of 2021-2022 really harmed him. He's slowly getting back to that level and produces kino against the right person, but its clear Nosawa and Muto destroyed his confidence.

>>14991405
Definitely.

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regular day at the office

>>14992228
classic maru rib

>>14992228
what gave him that scar on his chest? or whatever it is

>>14992293
Stage 4 Choppa.

>>14992293
kenta kobashi chops

him and maru have the same scar

Joe Hendry in the N1

>mfw reading through the list of Triple Crown title matches during the Four Pillars Era
IT'S TIME FOR THE SAME EVENT
I know a lot of the matches are legendary, but over the span of seven years, it's pretty much only Misawa, Kawada, Kobashi, Hansen, Williams, and Taue ever having matches for it. If I was following along during real-time, I think I would have a hard time staying engaged.

>>14993024
it would be easy without high speed internet that lets you watch all the matches in one sitting

I have to wonder if Noah is capable of rehabbing Kaito in the eyes of the audience. His drawing power seems pretty shaky if you look at his match with kenoh at korakuen, the tag league challenge, or grand ship. The Wagner match did fine, but more evidence would point to Kaito not being a draw.

>>14993297
It's easier now because we can pick and choose the absolute best matches to watch. Besides the wrestlers I listed, literally the only others to challenge for the title during that era were Gary Albright, Jun Akiyama, Johnny Ace, Vader, and Yoshihiro Takayama. That's just eleven wrestlers over the course of nearly eight years. For comparison, there were twenty-nine different wrestlers to have IWGP title matches in that same time period. Despite how fantastic so many of those Triple Crown title matches are, it would seem very difficult to remain interested in the same few matches again and again. I now understand why NJPW always out-drew AJPW during this era.

What's the point of NOAH putting the 7/13 show on ABEMA instead of WU?

>>14994015
Marigold has a PPV on WU that same day

>>14994094
I wonder who is commentating what. If Fulton is gonna do Noah or Marigold.

>>14994151
i'd would imagine Fulton and Sonny at Marigold with Pickering and Maurice at Noah

Is he right?
https://brockhateswrestling.wordpress.com/2024/06/20/06-03-94/

This guy seems to dislike a lot of stuff

>>14993596
ajpw's always been like that, small core of top stars + challengers. having charity showings where some jobber mid-carder challenge wouldn't draw & probably would be dead on arrival

>>14994411
What are his favorite matches?

>>14994455
No idea. Just stumbled onto the site

>>14994500
He's a Necro Butcher mark so he's okay in my book.

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https://support.wrestle-universe.com/hc/ja/articles/33962620010521-How-to-use-the-Reordering-Groups-function
Dragongate may be coming to Wrestle Universe

>>14994686
they got their own streaming service though

>>14980812
Not again...

>>14994558
I disagree with a lot of what he says, but I can respect the take since he watches so much wrestling

>>14994558
Ugh, miss me with that gay shit.

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>>14994919
>Ugh, miss me with that gay shit.

>>14994686
nice

>>14994988
Ironic.

After watching some late 80's and early 90's stuff I feel like most of the great stuff from that era is only just good by today's standards. I recognize a lot of that has to do with me not having a strong emotion connection with the matches seeing as how I did not follow those feuds in real time, but the level of the top tier in-ring at least during golden age NJPW ('14 to '19) was just different. Who knows how long it will take for us to have another era so insane.

>>14995204
Insanely overrated.

>>14995258
NTA but Which one? 2010s new Japan or old late 80s/early 90s stuff?

>>14995204
I disagree. I find old wrestling just as compelling and great now as people did then. Even stuff from the late 60s and 70s.

I like newer stuff too.

>>14995325
The former.

One match I really did love from that era as The Olympics vs. Revolution from '89 for the tag titles. That match was fantastic.

>>14995204
Nice bait.

>>14995204
Golden age of New Japan was the 90s. Any of the Musketeers had more charisma in their little finger than the lucharesu fujoshi bait talent of recent times. Plus NJPW vs UWFi is the greatest feud/invasion angle ever and still super exciting watching it now.
There may not be as many flips or high spots, but the level of the basics is so, so much higher than it is now (it actually looks like real grappling) and the charisma levels are off the charts.
I remember being blow away by the opening tag matches on either the '95 or '96 NJPW vs. UWFi Dome shows - the speed and quality of the matwork was incredible and the crowd was hot throughout the entire event. I seem to recall Nagata doing a fucking backdrop and the whole Dome exploded. You don't even get that level of pop during the closing stretch of a modern NJPW main event.
As an aside, watching stuff from the 80s and 90s really makes you realise that this whole 'Japanese crowds are respectful and silent' is some Reddit revisionist bullshit.

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>>14995081
>Ironic.

>>14995545
>As an aside, watching stuff from the 80s and 90s really makes you realise that this whole 'Japanese crowds are respectful and silent' is some Reddit revisionist bullshit.
It's mostly cope from the gaijin's that would go over to Japan and not get over.

>>14995545
That is very true. Some of those crowds were genuinely insane. Even comparing modern sumo crowds to modern wrestling the difference is night and day.

For the record I am not against trying more stuff I just wasn't blown away by what I saw with a few exceptions. And I suspect I'll like the mid 90s more anyway.

>>14995627
Go watch Vader and Inoki from 96 if you haven't. Try to find it with the entrances, and then laugh at Vader falling, but it's okay cause he's based. The crowd is fucking insane throughout it.

>>14995204
Funny because I've been at the point for a long time now where MEWVZ and FLIPZ do nothing for me anymore. I was wowed by that shit when I started getting back into wrestling years ago, but now I can't stand it because of how fake and 'weightless' it all feels. I watched a match the other day with two Mexican wrestlers in their 60s punch each other in the face in the middle of a junkyard and it was infinitely more compelling to me than any spot-fest gymnastics routine wrestling.

>>14995645
>Inoki refuses to job to anyone for decades; even his own Aces to help put them over
>randomly decides to job to Vader
>causes a riot

>>14995545
I was watching Inoki vs Fujinami the other day and the way the crowd losing their shits over every move was something I’ve never seen before. A hot crowd really makes a difference. I will have to check NJPW vs UWFi since I’ve heard lots of great thing about this rivalry.

>>14995741
Absolutely.
Wrestling is all about reactions. Like Finlay vs Regal from Uncensored 1996 is a great match from a technical standpoint, but the crowd is just so dead throughout it. Now imagine that match in front of a crowd that actually gave a shit and so on.

That being said it can work. There was some great matches during the pandemic era because the wrestlers decided to just beat the shit out of each other to make up for the lack of a reaction

>>14995741
>I will have to check NJPW vs UWFi since I’ve heard lots of great thing about this rivalry.
Bruh, start with the original UWF vs. New Japan. After the first UWF shut down those guys went back to New Japan as 'invaders.' The crowds were molten fuckin' hot for those matches.

>>14995829
>>14995741
Check this out:
>NJPW - 3/26/86 - Team UWF: Yoshiaki Fujiwara/Osamu Kido/Nobuhiko Takada/Kazuo Yamazaki/Akira Maeda vs. Team NJPW: Antonio Inoki/Tatsumi Fujinami/Kengo Kimura/Umanosuke Ueda/Kantaro Hoshino
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7to7v5

Insanely hot crowd.

Just watched this 1996 Kobayashi vs Misawa abridged match:

https://youtu.be/FgiM82ht_Yc?si=VgT-Hr2J-5vz4eZd

This was boring. The wrestling is primitive like Original Trilogy lightsaber dueling. Misawa forgot to sell his arm towards the end. Finishes the match with a simple back bump.

Talk about overrated. Watching this made me see why the worst of modern puro is a thing.

>>14995868
I love this match a lot, watched it a number of times but it’s always a fun a watch. Inoki slapping Hoshino because he keeps holding him back from going first always pops me.

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tomorrow

but not on WU til Tuesday

>>14995829
Where do I start? Can you give links?

>14995961
Nice bait.

>>14995961
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xae7f4
Watch this then.

>>14995984
I would just watch random matches, but maybe this could help as a guide.
https://archive.org/details/1986.03.26-njpw-new-japan-vs-u.-w.-f.-5-vs-5-elimination-match

It's really a shame that TV Asahi has locked up so much of New Japan's history and made it a chore to find.

>>14995980
I want to see Ogawa win the white GHC from Ishikawa

>>14996007
I checked the date and had a feeling it was going to be even worse. I don't know about you, but to me the working and selling is even worse here. Straight up phony looking. At least the 1996 match looked real, if boring.

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Damn, Soya-Stacies look like that???????

>>14996244
bitches love married family men

>>14996244
Looks like Giulia

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>>14996359
I don't see it

>>14996230
different anon, but I don't even get what you like then. What's your favorite match?

>>14996230
Retard confirmed. Post matches your favorite matches then.

>>14996421
>I don't even get what you like then
Something I can't find evidently.
>What's your favorite match?
I'm looking for it.
>>14996430
>Post matches your favorite matches then.
Would if I could.

I want fast-paced, high workrate, grappling-based, non-choreagraphed, non-phony-looking, ring-based action.

These old ass puro matches are slow, strikes-based, low workrate (to the point they even use simple throws as finishers), overreliant on outside of the ring, and at their worst poorly worked (I can say Misawa matches at least don't look fake).

>>14996717
>I want fast-paced, high workrate, grappling-based, non-choreagraphed, non-phony-looking, ring-based action.
Watch RINGS, UWFi or Pancrase ASAP then.

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>>14995978
Yeah man, I've watched it so many times and it never fails to entertain. I also love that the guy with the bleached blond hair on team New Japan was a heel usually. It really adds to the feeling that the UWF invasion is a big fucking deal that even the main heel in the company is helping to fight them off.
>>14996717
>>14996815
I posted this match earlier in the thread. Highly reccommend it and it matches all your criteria - hot crowd, quick and smooth grappling that looks real, nasty striking, a real sense of urgency and drama. You know you're in for a good one when the crowd loses their shit when Tamura slaps Yamamoto instead of shaking his hand:
>Kiyoshi Tamura vs. Yoshihisa Yamamoto, RINGS (6.24.1999)
https://youtu.be/wHOI-kEKvQA?feature=shared [Embed]

>>14996815
>>14997051
Never heard of RINGS before.

>>14997051
so I've reached the 15 minute mark, and while the first few minutes were significantly better than what I'm used to seeing, it soon became pretty slow and pretty gay

when I said "grappling" I meant flashy throws like Goldust's Snap Scoop Powerslam and Final Cut, not submissions. I can stand submissions when used sparingly, but not when they're the meat of the match, used often and for extended amounts of time.

Attempt appreciated.

>>14996815
>Pancrase
what's this about
post a match, closest to what all I described I'm looking for (if it has such a match)
>UWFi
that's just MMA

>>14996717
Other anon again

I don't know what to suggest. Our tastes are too different sorry. I really like the fact that not everyone in old Japanese wrestling has a choreographed finisher. It's more realistic and exciting that a match can end out of nowhere to me.

>>14997215
So you know who Goldust is. When did you start watching wrestling? What do you like now? What you want is all over the place to me.

Bump

Bump

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El Samurai is an underappreciated talent.

>>14997215
Maybe you should just bite the bullet and give the upcoming big Japanese wrestling tournaments like the G1 and N1 an honest chance when they happen, maybe at the end of the day you'd like to just watch something ongoing you can discuss in various places (to a limited degree here) with bits of what you like, even if it's flawed, rather than trying to find the "perfect" wrestling that's already happened

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the shiozaki and morishima of our generation

>>14998804
No wonder it’s dimeless

>>14998804
I hope he doesn't end up like Morishima

>>14998804
Don't insult Kaito like that.

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>watch All Japan Pro Wrestling

>>14999033
Are they on WU?

>>14999069
I wish they were it would be easier

>>14999033
But Baba-san...I already do

I watch and enjoy New Japan and NOAH as well though. I used to enjoy BJW but it's just kinda sad now
>>14999069
They have their own streaming site. It's listed in the OP

>>14999069
Also they have no English support so you'll probably have to find a guide if you want to sign up.

Between Hendry spam and the AEW ratings today every general is in danger

livestreams this weekend:

Saturday (22nd)
>Josh Barnett's Bloodsport Bushido
1500 JST / 0200 EST
>NJPW Soul in Fukushima
1700 JST / 0400 EST
>Stardom The Conversion
1700 JST / 0400 EST

Sunday (23rd)
>Ice Ribbon at Korakuen (Mayu vs Fujimoto)
1130 JST / 2230 EST
>NJPW Soul at Ibaraki
1500 JST / 0200 EST
>Marigold at Korakuen
1800 JST / 0500 EST

Monday (24th)
>AJPW at Korakuen (Anzai vs Suzuki)
1830 JST / 0530 EST

please add or correct as needed

>>14999682
GLEAT should've streamed their show this weekend to capitalize on the Nakajima buzz they got last week. Missed opportunity.

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The Kick Out 2.99 podcast goes into insane detail. Found out so much listening to the Nakajima and Shootstyle episodes.
Had no idea that Marafuji was considered good enough to do legit MMA but Misawa refused because he was supposed to be the next generation of NOAH's golden boy and didn't want him to get brain damage.

Also interesting that the NOAH guys do shoot training with Sakuraba at his new gym. Apparently it's a legacy from Baba's time where new trainees at the AJPW dojo had to learn to shoot before they even took a bump. I always thought that was only a New Japan thing. Who would have thought that NOAH of all places would end up more legit than New Japan? Inoki must be seething from the beyond.

Even the hosts describing the play by play of matches has me looking at wrestling in a completely new light - they really highlight all the little flourishes and subtleties that make matches good. Crazy that a couple of part-time podcasters are more informative than Dave Meltzer et al. (at least when it comes to puro.)

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>>15000419
>Inoki must be seething from the beyond.
he made the switch just before dying

https://forums.prowrestlingonly.com/topic/54576-2019-four-pillars-bio-thread-index/
Since Baba and classic AJPW are being talked about this is something the hardcore nerds might enjoy. This hardcore forum nerd translated a book that was written by a Japanese puro reporter that was deeply embedded within AJPW for years and it goes super in-depth about the Pillars, Baba, and various other things.
One thing that stands out in particular was that Baba wasn't this genius booker history has made him out to be; he had to be goaded and persuaded by other people into many positive booking decisions throughout the years.

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>>15000452
Inoki must have felt it back in 1992

im all for Noah representing a variety of styles, just don't want their traditional style to dropped. its fitting for the Ark to house all kinds of animals

>>15000557
I thought it was common knowledge that Baba was super conservative when it came to booking. Wasn't it Jumbo that basically convinced Baba that Tiger Mask Misawa HAD to beat him or they'd miss a great opportunity to make a new star.

>>15000819
...and that Baba finally gave in on the night of the match (pressed post too early).

>>15000819
Read that link I posted, bro. It turns out a reporter for a pro-wrestling magazine was responsible for a lot of the booking for AJPW, but it was kept secret for years. Even the wrestlers had no idea.

>>15000637
Misawa really loved the green color, even his suit is green

>>15000419
>Had no idea that Marafuji was considered good enough to do legit MMA but Misawa refused
worked

>>14999033
But only up until 2002, right Babasan?

>>15001765
dunno about MMA but i've seen a picture of him holding amateur wrestling trophies and medals

>>14998804
I am more hopefully for Yu Owada's prospects although he seems to have similar fire issues to Kaito, but it is early days.

NOAH seems way worse at training up new people compared to every other major promotion.

>>15002620
Been that way since day 1

>>15002620
Yep, it's been that way from the start. KENTA is credited with running a lot of people off during NOAH's best years. If I were a young wrestler, I wouldn't go to NOAH since you seemingly have to wrestle for 10 years or be 40 to get in a main event.

And I know nobody has it, but BJW no longer puts all of their shows on BJW Core. It seems a bunch of them are niconico PPV's only now

>>15002620
NOAH’s biggest draws were all made by Baba and Inoki lol

I feel like the death match meme was hit the hardest by the pandemic. Those promotions are languishing big time not that they ever did amazing before, but still.

>>15002849
Good. Hopefully it dies out fully. If you can't wrestle without blowing shit up, get outta the business. Takashi Sugiura never had to set himself on fire to get over.

I wonder when we are gonna start to see the new trainees from All Japan.

>>15000419
>.
>Had no idea that Marafuji was considered good enough to do legit MMA but Misawa refused because he was supposed to be the next generation of NOAH's golden boy and didn't want him to get brain damage.
Rare foresight from Misawa
>>15000879
It pays tribute to Horst Hoffmann. He was Misawa's favorite wrestler to watch when younger. Although I'm sure he liked green jt was also probably a way to market himself.

>>15000557
It lines up with what we know about Baba. Still I think he was a better booker than most. Wrestling has far more bad bookers than good ones.

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>>15000637
>Misaw staring at Inoki's big chin
My fucking sides

There's been a rising amount of people who dislike Misawa in recent years, but I still believe in him.

>>15000557
>After the Osaka show, Misawa and Kawada hit up a bar in the city, accompanied by a crop of younger wrestlers and ring crew. Kawada happened to notice that Keiichi Yamada—that is, Jushin Thunder Liger—was a fellow patron. Yamada, who had lost the national high school wrestling championship to Kawada ten years before, had remained cordial with him. He had even attended the September 4 Budokan show with his wife.
>Misawa was hostile to the notion of commiserating in this way with a wrestler from a rival promotion, at least at this point (he would later become drinking buddies with Hayabusa), and things escalated when Kawada said that he’d go home in that case. To which Misawa responded with a punch.
Misawa sounds kind of like a mark in this moment.

>>15003191
They had tryouts a while ago. Nobody was that tall and a White guy looked to be the best out of all of them. They have 2 smaller Japanese guys doing ring boy duties who are probably the next debuts.

>>15003566
And then Kawada punched him back kek

>>15002721
Please explain...

>>14974603
basee

>>15003566
Misawa and Kawada are the perfect ideal example of 'frenemies'.

>>15000452
Based. This is why Nakajima can continue his legacy - he was symbolically blessed by Inoki-san.

>>15003857
Misawa, Kobashi and Muto.

Sareee is the true inheritor of Inokism

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>>15003882
>>15003905
But enough about Tony Rafiq Khan-Inoki

if your fed never booked antonio koinoki then its not a true inokism fed

>>15004656
I believe in you Go-sama

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NOAH is taking Dragon Bane and Alpha Wolf in their UK tour

>>15003973
Did she win the Inoki-inspired new Stardom belt yet?

>>15004656
>those choppa scars on his chest

>>15000637
Source on this pic?

NOAH needs to come to the deep south

https://x.com/ddtpro/status/1804341137739780141

Higuchi has a hernia

>>15008160
Fujita hurts another one

>>15008160
Damn

bloodsports is live on the usual site

>>15009082
thanks, didnt know it was today

>>15007909
This nigga's finish is Guide of the Atoll
https://x.com/noah_ghc/status/1804470879448965455

>>15010307
Hope he keeps the Musou.

Bump

Are there any NOAH fags left? Like NOAH is their top promotion to watch? Feels like they finally died out when Suzuki-gun was around.

>>14999152
I just use Chrome's auto-translate feature and it works fine.

For me my top is still New Japan, but I watch Noah more than All Japan currently. Mostly due to the fact they are regularly putting on more big matches.

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>>15000452
why does he look like he's in Dr. Melfi's office?

>>15011361
Still my favorite but it's been a rough year. Things are starting to look better now though but it really bothers me that
>Kobashi is doing commentary for DDT instead of NOAH
>losing Nakajima
>losing Kotaro Suzuki, Seki Yoshioka
>Kenoh never had a proper long reign with the GHC and he's now starting to show his age
>there are too many lame gaijin. I'll take Chris Ridgeway over Anthony Green, Jack Morris, AJ Clearly, Starboy Charlie, Titus Alexander and Daga.
But with Inamura and Soya returning, there's hope for the future, and I think people aren't giving Ulka Sasaki enough credit, he keeps improving with each match and has had some really good moments. If Kai Fujimura and Ozawa return at the end of the year then the roster looks really good.

Is YO-HEY leaving NOAH?

What is the deal with GLG i heard someone say its disbanding but I still see them tagging on paper.

https://x.com/EasternLariat/status/1803348654595428656
Yuma Anzai loves President Ace. Might be a problem for All Japan in the future. Anzai would be the instant top prospect if he jumped.

>>15011634
they disband next month

>>15011803
New Japan already tried to poach him when he was a young boy and failed so I don't think he is leaving.

>>15011473
>Shit Shitway over Jack Morris
Have you not seen Jack vs Wagner at all?

>>15012212
I wasn't impressed. Wagner is pedos, obviously but Morris bores the shit out of me and he does that flailing arms thing that pisses me off. Ridgeway's intense and is better in the ring, I don't like him all that much but I'll take him over the skirt wearer.

>>15011803
Anzai vs SANADA is my dream match

>>15012304
Are you that other dude complaining about Misawa vs Kawada?

I don't get people saying Morris is good. All his tag matches are boring and his singles work ain't much better. Plus he has a giant head which makes him look weird.

>>15012360
SANADA vs Kaito was dimes.
Kaito vs Anzai was dimes.
Anzai vs SANADA will be dimes.

>>15012368
No, Kawada is pure fucking yen and Misawa is the saint of pro wrestling. You've got some nerve to bring them up when we were discussing Jack fucking Morris.

>>14993024
No you wouldn't, because they were all massively based.

>>14993596
>. I now understand why NJPW always out-drew AJPW during this era
You don't actually, because that wasn't the reason

>>15012440
my point is that you are as objectively retarded as that guy.

>>15012467
Because I don't like Jack Morris? Pull your head out of your ass.

NTA, The only gaijins I like in Noah are Wagner and Ninja Meme. Morris bores me.

>>15012360
It’s mine, too. Both kinda remind me of the golden age of puro.

I can't believe people like the three star general Sanada. You can have him.

>>14994411
anyone who cries about misawa's legendary stoicism as "too cold" lost their way a long time ago.
for instance his GOAT wrestler is eddie kingston; not like i was gonna take this seriously in the first place

>>15012544
>Star ratings
Meltzdrone

>>15012623
I don't care about Dave. He is a mediocre shitter with no Charmisa or ability to work a fued. Yall complain about Kaito having no fire and Sanada is 10 times worse.

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So how bad is the state of modern dragon gate when they need to go back to have Yamato in the main event of the Kobe world for the 235th time?

>>15012661
Kaito is my second favorite wrestler after Go, I don't complain about him faggot. You're the kike that used MUH STARRRRRRRRRRRS to derived SANADA. Kill yourself.

>>15012535
I see where you’re coming from, I’m imagining Inoki vs Fujinami.

>>15012709
As a short hand to explain that he is above average in ring but not excellent; nor deserving of the praise he receives on this board simply because he has a look unlike most of the dimeless wrestlers of this generation. But keep seething.

>>15012720
> Inoki vs Fujinami.
I was having the same thought.

>>15012669
It's still pretty good, compared to other promotions when it comes to pushing young guys and units in general.
YAMATO is still the ace though, I think that since Shun Skywalker is better as a heel they are struggling to find their next top babyface

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Tomorrow's Gleat

>>15012981
where is Jima

>>15012981
>Gamma came out of retirement

>>15012917
Yuki was a perfect ace of the company champion in my opinion and then they just floundered him hard after losing the belt and since then every dream gate run has been underwhelming hopefully ben-k's run will change that

>>15013363
idk, Yuki was kind of bland as an ace imo, much like T-Hawk and early Ben-K it felt like he floundered promo wise

>>15012981
I don't get Gleat, how can they afford all that quality talent when they only hold 2-3 shows a month that draw between 700 fans at best, and 100 fans at worst.

>>15013463
If it's up to me I'm putting it on k-zy it's long overdue

>>15013885
I think Kzy has sadly fallen into the Tozawa spot of being massively over, but never getting a run with the belt.

>>15013830
I could understand it if they ran a bunch of shows. But they don't so who knows. averaging around like 330~ is not amazing, but it is alright enough. Dragongate for example averages like 530~, but they run a billion shows and have a way higher ceiling with their big shows.

>>15014587
Based

Inoue's return match from injury on the show from the 24th

>Kento Miyahara, Suwama, Shotaro Ashino, Ryo Inoue VS. Hokuto Omori, Kuma Arashi, Hartley Jackson, X

Could the X be the reveal everyone has been waiting for.

>>15015129
nakajima?

>>15015911
Probably not, would be funny if so after the gleat thing. Idk who is dimeless enough to stick with Omori, Jackson, and Kuma.

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>>15016569
>KEN-TO
>KEN-TO
>MIYAHARA KEN-TO

>>15016569
>Katsuhiko......who told you you'd be welcome back here?

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>>15016569

>>15018924
Really like Yuma but I really wanted a last dance type title run from kento especially after all the momentum he came in to the match

>>15011473
Thanks for the reply anon.

NOAH isn't my top promotion but I still love and support it.

>>15019164
Could be an interesting dynamic if Anzai holds the belt for a couple years and he becomes the wall to Kento.

>>15019164
Kento still has about 4 solid years in him before you can even think about a last dance title run.

>>15019929
Doi is the most powerful Saito brother

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full card for AJPW tomorrow

Chono wants Japanese companies to lock arms against WWE and AEW:
>After the talk show, Chono responded to an interview and said about the current Japanese wrestling world, "It's probably time for a change. The American WWE and AEW have become big black ships. If things continue like this, they will probably take over." He went on to say, "If I were in New Japan, I would first take over Asia and be on an equal footing with the US. Then I would like to go to war over who is stronger. However, when I think about the industry, I think it would be best to stop fighting like that and make a good treaty and move towards a system of cooperation."
https://x.com/tospo_battle/status/1804874952304431321

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>>15020626
how do you say B-B-BASED DEPARTMENT in Japanese?

NOAH doesn't have a single livestream show between now and the PPV in three weeks

Bump

>>15020626
He's right

>>15020626
Isn’t that the purpose of ujpw. Which was funny since it turned into a njpw beats everyone crossover show

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Captain Sakuraba and the Legend of the Gracie Gold

>>15026046
Look at these old lesbians.

Went to sleep early yesterday afternoon just so I could watch this show live.

This is my first AJPW live show, what should I expect? Will they mute the entrance music, or will I finally get to hear it?

>>15026218
Eat rocks, turd breath.

[BREAKING]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILuHsDn-6lE

lobby open
https://www.ajpw.tv/lives/cfa63e03-aba2-4ee1-b422-313c40319b83

>>15026717
I think they only mute for the VODs

The japs in chat are dooming over there being empty seats even though the show hasn't really started.

Also they are talking about a new faction being named today.

>>15027227
Oh disregard. Someone at the venue said Hayato and Anzai were signing autographs during ActWres time

>>15027227
wish they had the thing WU has where you can see the chat in full screen

AJPW announced the show is sold out in chat. Pretty good for a Monday

The new faction is named Elpida, the Greek word for "hope"

This first match is amazing. Yankee street fight.

Audience is hot as fuck right out of the gate

rare to see someone tap to manjigatame

>>15027256
How many seats?

>>15027347
Looks like 1100 or so

They deadass giving everyone solo entrances for the X match

Omori's new gear is sick af

X is Cyrus. Omori Hokuto is dressed like Generalisimo Takada and raised a monster army as his new faction

but I wanted to see Ikemen Jiro's never ending entrance gimmick

>>15027448
Expectation subverted

This show is great. I haven't even had a chance to take a pissbreak with the non-stop action.

respect the one guy trying to get the We Want Tables chant over

Aoyagi Yuma has been taking multiple shots at the head

great match

Amazing match. I was so enthralled I couldn't even comment.

By the way yesterday was the anniversary of Mr Pogo's death

>>15027568
strong japanese table

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>>15027169

New Jr champs.

Is this show the end of the series? Everyone is going all out and the show is loaded surprises.

Saito Brothers just announced another new honorary Saito

knew I recognized that song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGFiqGGVAuk

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Hideki Suzuki will win

>>15027744
that was the punishment for shoot heeming the DDT guy?

>>15027753
No. This match happened before the incident

lol no way sumawa will win

whole show was great. one of the best crowds I've seen recently, loud the whole time.

>>15027846
The entire card was pure spectacle and then for the main event it shifted gears to that stiff technical battle of wills. Hideki was beating the shit out of Anzai, but he kept resisting until he opened up the path to victory.

Anzai needs to work on his stamina. He gassed out pretty early on, and Hideki was becoming visibly frustrated trying to work through the match by picking up the slack. The CACC style of most of this match is deceptively exhausting as you are using basically all of your muscles at once. I don't think Anzai was fully prepared for it, despite his athletic background. Learning how to pace for a 6 minute freestyle match is a different animal than trying to carry it for 30 minutes.

Solid card all the way down and the crowd was insanely hyped.

Fun show and I learned a new racial slur from the chat today, Spitz. As in "silence Spitz, no one cares what a white dog thinks."