holy shit
>>15037853Is this the power of 502k?
holy FUCK
>>15037853I THE TARPS IN THE STANDSTRYING TO FIND OUTWHERE ARE THE FANS?
Grindin' (whoa)You know what I keep in a lining (whoa)Niggas better stay in line when (whoa)You see a nigga like me shinin' (grinding!)Grindin' (whoa)
what went wrong unironically
>>15037917Tony Khan.
>>15037917They had a bried moment where they fooled some people into thinking they were cool.Shortly after most normal people left after a few weeks you slowly lost your audience of sickos.Now all you have is the sickest of the sickos aka wrestling fans no one wants to associate with and whoever fell asleep to big bang re runs.It doesnt help that the hoes that work at AEW complain about being raped by the audience
>>15037917tony mostly, but the type of fan they attracted pushed away any chance of them being a draw long term due to no sane human being wanting to interact with such undesirables
>>15037853502k
>>15037917Tony Khan’s awful weekly booking, tripling down on the antidraw Young Bucks and creating an Us vs Them (WWE) mentality with his Twitter antics and calling WWE the world Weinstein company
>>15037917>SRS >Dave meltzer>Bryan Alvarez>Tony Khannone of these guys know shit about pro wrestling, so nobody should be surprised that they're all wrong about this literallywho bong nobody
>>15037853>Arena's Empty Wrestling
>>15037853Will The Grinder Ospreay drawing the house!
>>15037853KWAB
>>15037853>Wrestling's hot right now
>>15038123WWE is.
>>15037853Jesus. I didn't watch him in the nip fed. He wrestled in front of more people there right? Is this noticeable to him unlike some of the indy shitters on that roster?
>>15037917Tony not knowing how to book and him being a complete retard on twitter alienated most fans.
>>15037853so how long till we see a downgrade to hotel convention halls, high school gyms, community centers and unironically bingo halls? or do you guys think his ego won't allow him to downgrade to smaller venues after bragging about wembly for so long?
full house
>>15038123502k
>>15037853someone needs to post the meltzer ospreay webm
>>15037853>b-but cable viewership is down everywhere. AEW is fine!
>>15038341Not wwe its been gaining viewers across the board lately
>>15037853All the trannies who kept saying everything's fine, look what you helped happen. LOOK AT THE WEBM IN THE OP. We tried to tell you it was heading in the wrong direction in 2023.
>>15037917Talent
>>15038381Where can I watch AEW in 2025?
>>15038345STAAAAHP LYIIIINGG!
>>15038229NJPW is aware of the reality of how big they are and doesn't book venues that will have humongous fields of empty seatsYour average mediocre Dynamite is equivalent to like an upper-medium size NJPW show, but the NJPW show will be in a building that is mostly full so it's not depressing looking
>>15038387NTA but my money is on either twitch or youtube as a webshow. the only way AEW dies is if papa shadman cuts tony off or tony ODs on coke and dies.
honestly though how can anyone sit at a show like this comfortably knowing that the opposite side is just barren and emptyi'd feel so embarrassed to be there
>>15037917Tony.Everything was perfect at first. Everyone was looking forward to AEW, from smarks to marks and even Cornette. It was what everyone was was asking for: a solid alternative to WWE who were at their lowest at the time. You basically had the top guys of every non-WWE promotion there like Kenny, Kingston, Penta, PAC etc. AEW raped Haitch's NXT so hard they changed their broadcast days.And then for some reason Tony hired EVERY SINGLE GUY from NXT despite beating them. Cole and his lackeys were at the top of NXT when they were getting 92'd by AEW and Tonikan thought that it was a good idea to bring them to AEW and made them top guys over the talent he already had.But for some reason fate favored Tony and so he was given a second chance with the signing of Danielson and Phil, arguably the two biggest draws of modern wrestling. And yet he did nothing until they were ice cold things just went downhill. From the locker room fight to brawl out to Tony shooting himself in the foot by showing the footage that exposed him as a bitch fearing for his life when Punk just yelled at him.
>>15037853Was the "Grind" even worth it?
>>15037917Dave panderingmuh wwe promo every weektranny panderingmost importantly tony and the way he took criticism as personal attacks and having aewtists praise him for his shitty decisions.
small indie company, please understand
>>15038391midget community theater
>>15038391Why is this clown staring directly into the camera?
>>15038391>only bleached his top teethhuh? this nigga really think nobody will notice his yellow ass bottom teeth?
>>15037917Ultimately it was Tony. He couldn't book the shows well enough to keep interest. Tony let the Codester leave and become the biggest babyface in 20+ years. He let the backstage drama go unchecked because he believed it creates more intrigue for fans but of course it led to Punk leaving and talking shit the whole time since.
>>15037917Tony Khan being a fucking pussy a shoot retard.
>>15037853the paki cunt killed his own company
HHH crying in his sleep about letting this megadraw get away
>>15037917zero project, outside being a "WWE alternative"
>>15039018Because the bucks whole gimmick is that wrestling is fake
>>15037853WOOAHWE'RE HALF WAY THEREWOAH-OHCLEARING OUT ARENASBOOK MORE BRUV AND WE'LL MAKE IT I SWEARWOOAH CLEARING OUT ARENAS
The indie show I was at over the weekend may have had a bigger crowd unironically
>>15038278If Tony was a smart man he'd do a studio setup like NWA had and he can emulate all the 20th century wrestling shit he wanted, hell you could commission a whole property to your desired specifications if you have the money he does
>>15039359I think Tony books these 20k seat arenas months in advance thinking that by the time the show happens that he'll have turned things around and they'll be full
>>15039381He better start looking state fairgrounds at this point
>>15037853Just book smaller venues, your main audience is the TV people anyway
>>15037917it was embarrassing from the start
>>15037917Cody got less involved and Tony got more involved. He should have stayed as a passive investor like in 2019.
>>15038992>AEW raped Haitch's NXT so hard they changed their broadcast days.Let's not get carried away. They beat NXT by like 200k viewers.
>>15037853The problem is Tony Khan is a rich arab who can buy whatever he wants and Vince McMahon at least grew up in a trailer and had to experience life a little before he took over his father's wrasslin' company.
tony needs to step away and let someone else take the reigns for a bit. they have to start booking smaller arenas until shit gets better. go back to jaxonville’s 2000 person arena.
>>15040007Rich Paki, that's even worse than a rich Arab
>>15039992>>15038992Back to back kwab
>>15037917Same exact things that killed WCW. Giving power to the worst people. Running out Punk was the point of no return. I don't care about your ya seething or slopdown got cancelled or Punk sucks reply, he objectively took with him at least 200k viewers and pissed a lot of people off
>>15038992When Tony signed Ruby Riot to AEW you knew he had no idea what the fuck he was doing
>>15037917The Young Bucks isolate Tony from everyone else and he was stuck using their bingo hall ideas and their bingo hall talents to try and fill venues much larger than the bingo hall crowds that actually want to see the young bucks.
>>15040160Claudio and Ruby tier signings who end up in the exact same predicament in their new company is always hilarious
>>15040160Remember aew fans popped for Ruby Riott
>>15037917WWE becoming better and feeling fresh and cool at the same time when Tony Khan and AEW got exposed for their amateurism with the punk situation.
>>15040203I was at the finals for the inaugural TBS champ tournament and my first thought when she did the job for jade was "she's lower midcard for life isn't she"
>>15037917Tony being literally worse than Herb Abrams
>>15037917Tony and NXT shitters
>>15037917AEW was built on anti-wwe sentiment. That kind of product has a shelf life. It never had any sort of identity of its own other than wwe bad. Now that WWE is doing better there’s no reason to watch AEW. AEW claims it’s where the best wrestle but it’s full of people who do overly choreographed fake shit and people who wink at the camera and tell you wrestling is fake and nothing matters. People literally get set on fire in aew and shrug it off like nothing happened.
>>15037866My grind’s bout millys never been about tarps
I genuinely enjoy laughing at aew and tony's failures
>>15040306It is a fun little pastime isn't it?
>>15037917mix of tony khan and the evps
>>15037853why did he have good looking ring gear when he was with NJPW and suddenly once he joined AEW he switched to thin ugly ass aquaman looking pants?
>>15037917Tony Khan
>>15037853>get paid millions to work 1-2 times a week before jetting back home to the UKif im Ospreay or any other talent theyre willing to pay im taking that cash. if aew fails most of these dudes will find a job especially someone like Ospreay
>>15038039All of this really
>>15040408Will they? aew is turbo devaluating their image, at the same time inflating salarieswhat do you think will happen when aew goes tits up?Tony killed the indies and is gonna kill himself, all the while making retards believe they deserve getting payed by the millions
>>15037853For real though why don't they just run small buildings like early ECW? Their shows would come across so much better.
>>15037917People got tired of gay manlets with no personalities doing faggot dance routines and extreme parkour. AEW has no stars and no stories. It's boring and a complete waste of time.
Hard cam side, droniE.
>>15040458somebody will buy it aew and save it. top talent could be kept, they could move back to indies to tna/wwe, theyll find work but not for the money they make now. thats why im saying cash out on tony now while you can. no one is gonna say mjf is the reason aew died. its all on TK
its really funny how at the start there were lots of indie shitters and botches but it was good tv because the booking and stories were fun and interesting. Now the roster has tons of enormous names but nobody cares because the booking is dogshit
>>15040629
>>15037853LoooooooooooooooooooooooooolHoly fucking shit hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha people defend this too hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
LET ME LAY THEMLET LET ME LAY THE FUCKING TARPS
>>15037853This masturbatory smark fed getting what it deserves brings me great joy.Hahahahahahaha
>>15037917Tony Khan drags out storylines for 8 months for feuds in which you know the winner 99% of the time. If he booked his show on turbo speed AEW would be by far the best wrestling show. Feuds should last a month, culminate at a ppv, then move the fuck on. But why can't a storyline end in one month? Because he books blackpool combat club vs. 3 jobbers from mexico/japan every single fucking week instead of using that time to progress a story. Then on collision he has jack cartwheel and black bountry hunter who makes le weird face instead of the people actually on AEW's roster that are part of storylines.It's an abhorrent fucking show. Dynamite, Collision, Rampage, all of it.I guarantee this wednesday's card has a trios match between one of Tony's favorite toy factions (BCC, House of Black, etc.) vs. 3 jobbers from a foreign country, or 3 random indie shitters. We'll hear from MJF, Mone, etc. in which nothing will happen. And 6 months from now Kris Statlander and Willow Nightingale will still be fucking feuding.
>>15037917too many things to list
>>15040313Afraid so.
>>15038074Unironically this. Especially Dave Meltzer.Keep in mind that Dave ADORES the Young Cucks. But he HATES Hulk Hogan. That should tell you everything you need to know about Dave's mind for the wrestling business.
>>15037917The majority of their fanbase has a 41% suicide rate.
>>15037853Jesus Tony hired a Cody impersonator?
>>15038074the best thing about all of this is meltzers preferred style of wrestling being indisputably shown to be niche bingo hall shit
>>15038391Is this Balding Buck?
>>15041358AEW is not Dave's preferred style. He's gone on the record a bunch of times about how he personally hates Mox style garbage wrestling, but still rates it highly when it is done well.
>>15037853
>>15041007This, with the addition that even when it's not an outright predictable feud that lasts that month or two they are still watered down to random additional match ups and segments that make it feel like it ran an extra 3 months and all of the parts were some trickled in there like some connect-the-dots puzzle to make it look like a feud to begin with. Then some jackass references that feud as a reason for this new feud 5 months later like anybody would give a shit, just before another tournament for some flimsy excuse to have them like a 3v3 qualifier to a eliminator match gets thrown on that shit. Remember how long it took for JAS to finish up their break up angle? Geeezus
>>15037917Nothing. AEW was always designed to kill interest in non-WWE wrestling, which had considerable momentum before AEW was founded.
>>15040598This is what I don't understand about movez marks. There are people who are actually good at acrobatics, gymnastics and parkour. Watching a shittier irony-poisoned version of these is pointless when the real things are way more entertaining.
>>15043145Seconded. Whats the point of doing an impressive move exchange ( like the 1 out of 100 that isn't just hitting air and flipping for 3 minutes)and finishing it with a superhero landing pose to underline how fake it is? Waste of breath and practice.
>>15037853kek
>>15037853bruv
>>15043291kek based
>>15046047You really waited 2 hours to bump this, you POS?
>>15037917Absolutely Nothing:D
County fair mud show had more of an audience. Have they ever tried no audience, taped shows? I mean, fucking hell. Imagine going out there as a wrestler who actually cares; that shit would hurt no matter the money involved.Maybe that's why the show is what it is. I don't see how anyone could consider THAT the apex of their career. The talent quits caring, "At least I'm working the money mark." I wonder how many people thought AEW was gonna be a good move for them, only to get there and either never wrestle, or wrestle in front of 20 trannies. Fucking grim, indeed.
>>15037853holy grimola
>>15037917WWE stopped being so bad and tony is bad at storylines
>>15037917Tony
>>15046097why ya cryin?
>>15037853Do you guys think the wrestlers care that half the arena is empty? I wonder if it's demoralizing or worrying about the future of whichever company they work for. I don't necessarily exclusively mean AEW.
>>15037917The Young Cucks couldn't last one full year without being in the spotlight. The very first year of AEW was so unbelievably kino but everything after is the cucks wanting everyone to know they're the boss and Tony sucking up to them constantly
>>15037853wow
>>15037853What do you think Okada thinks when he see these kind of crowds?
>>15047611hadoo camo sido, baka
>>15037917AEW was never good. They just had a ton of goodwill from the fans. People started to see AEW for what it was (garbage) after the honeymoon period ended.
>>15037917Vince McMahon sharted diarrhoea doo doo over a woman's hair.
>>15047611he doesn't care since he got 2 billion yen
>>15037917WWE was fucking terrible. Vince got ousted, HHH for what its worth just focused on one thing (Bloodline) and it worked for him. AEW wise? They were never that good, kind of peaked in 2021-2022, and then Tony just started signing and bought ROH. I would say buying ROH was the biggest mistake he made because he was barely booking one show all that good.
>>15047389It has to bother Edge. That's part of his entrance and he basically left stadiums for an empty audience.Christian ribbed that nigga like crazy.
This is the guy Hunter supposedly fumbled LMAO
>>15049445Yeah, buying ROH and Wembley were the turning points for AEW
>>15049445This is HHH cultist revisionism. The WWE Bloodline focused turn around started while Vince was still in charge.
>>15037917Tony is an awful booker and the only long-term project for the company was being a WWE alternative, and then WWE became good again.
>>15047389Nah. Only the marks care. The true workers know that the only thing that matters is the money and miles.
>>15038039Especially when her ass alone got more attention for aew than anything in 5 years. That one guy was kind of a dick tho.
>>15037853lmao
>>15037853LOL
>>15037853Hahahaha
Stop bumping this thread you fukcing loser
>>15037853Surely this is from a house show back when COVID was a thing.
>>15051569Nope, unfortunately it’s from sloplision
>>15040583Tony's ego won't allow it. In order to grow as a business man, you have to accept your failures.
>>15043291I do love laughing at AEW and it’s failures lmao
>>15051609kek grim lol
>>15037853Holy shit I bet there were more arena staff working the show than actual fans in attendance
Get a life bitchtits. Stop bumping this thread.
>>15037853ruff stough
>>15037853You stupid retards always obsess about empty attendance. Let me tell you something, not everything is always gonna sell out. There soccer games, football games, even fucking concerts that don't always have a full crowd. So not everyone showed up, who gives a fuck. What about the people who are already there, that didn't enter you mind now did it? Shut the fuck up and enjoy the show as it is.
Yikesola
>>15053171except the noise the crowd makes matters in wrestling. Big arenas that arent full sound shitty. If they keep selling so few tickets they should get small arenas with better vibes. hell the cruise ship episode of aew looked and sounded better than most 2024 aew crowds
>>15037853Paul was right.
>>15053327
>>15053485im just saying its a fair thing to be annoyed about, big empty arena's make the product less fun to watch
>>15037853loooooooooooooooooooooooool
>>15037917Obviously there's Tony. But the smark journalists and smarks themselves are also to blame. The foundation of AEW is built by people who somehow felt slighted and insulted that WWE sucked so much that they want to antagonize it on every chance they have instead of just abandoning the brand in peace and going for greener pastures.
>>15037917Pandering to a niche group of an already niche group of an already niche hobbyAEW basically only appeals to the midwit smark, with the emphasis on midwit. The other ends of the bell curve despise AEW for either hurdur it’s not like wwe or because they see Tony khan is legit killing the indies. The worst part about this specific audience is they are also the most obnoxious. Like AEW DOES have its own appeal that you can’t typically find on WWE. Most wrestling fans don’t want AEW to shit itself and die (well maybe they do now so they can set some of the talent free lmao) but every aewtist always has a permanent stick up their ass. They have base level intellect and think they aren’t cattle.
>>15037853holy dire
>>15037917I'm not going to read through every reply but I guarantee there is one tranny parroting>everything was fine and everyone liked each other in the locker>then big evil meanie punk came along and ruined it all by just existing!
>>15055363Ultimately I think fans fucked over AEW more than Tony. It’s like they tried gatekeeping and it “worked” for them but not in the way they intended. Nobody really wanted to associate with those trannies. And Tony being the pushover that he is, just goes with what his shitty fans want. And the fans don’t actually want good booking, storylines, or even matches. Really all the AEW fan wants is the ability to be a contrarian faggot.
>>15037853Dear god
>>15041007>I guarantee this wednesday's card has a trios match between one of Tony's favorite toy factions (BCC, House of Black, etc.) vs. 3 jobbers from a foreign country, or 3 random indie shitters. We'll hear from MJF, Mone, etc.
>>15037853Okay, now I'm starting to feel sad for them.
>>15037853>The Allure of empty arena matches
>>15037917Eric Bischoff has been burying it hard lately, Tony Khan made him angry he is at least partially to blame for that ruined relationship. When you anger the powerful elders you lose a lot of support you would otherwise need
>>15037917I’ve enjoyed the last few AEW pay-per-views, but their weekly shows are atrocious. And Tony has had one last chance to build a star in the form of Ospreay and will probably fuck that up too. Also please stop trying to make MJF a thing
can't let you slide
>>15055900Yeah, he should've kept Bischoff and Russo sweet, to be honest. Instead, he publicly repeated IWC rumors and lore about them when he doesn't and didn't know them personally. Big mistake in the big wide world out there.
